Dragoon Modifier

[unborn flame]

this looks so sick

[iron bone]

i made sure to take deranged photos

[tardy basalt]

is there an easy way to update once you update it?

[iron bone]

redownloading is the only option

2me4meirl check ultimate weapons b4 beta since they are still obtainable
(especially overcharge glove OOF)

[pallid flame]

Are the Moon fights in 2.1 not considered bosses for hard mode?

[iron bone]

no they are omega scripted.

[pallid flame]

Ah

[iron bone]

ope found a bug

but it only affects the dragoon battles

[pallid flame]

Wow so S Virage hits like several trucks....

[iron bone]

er i think there is a hotkey to set it to it's "lower" level version. in the next update it will only have one version.

uh nope

it's a level 60 boss that's why

[pallid flame]

In 2.1?

[iron bone]

mhm

i didn't add the lower "tier" hotkeys to nerf the boss ope

[pallid flame]

So just to be clear, I should be level 60 to fight it?

[iron bone]

yep

[pallid flame]

I'm glad I didn't waste a whole lot of time on it then jesus 😂 Gamestate Editor will be fired up next time I launch

[iron bone]

the proper way was to go back and do ultimate boss, the dragoons, train on the faust to level 60 (which is available in that version)

[pallid flame]

Yeah dragoons beat my ass so I moved on 🤣

[tardy basalt]

is there a hotkey for all star dust?

[iron bone]

those are level 50

[iron bone]

no

[tardy basalt]

will have to go hunting for them all eventually then

[pallid flame]

So what's the intended strat for hitting 50 for them? Since Zackwell is beatable at 32

[iron bone]

faust is the only option in that version of hard mode 💀

[pallid flame]

So the goal is to beat Zackwell, then Faust X times, then dragoons?

[iron bone]

yes

[pallid flame]

Good to know 😂 Gamestate Editor it is

[iron bone]

also i bet the bug i found is in that version too

[pallid flame]

What was it?

[iron bone]

the 4 dragoons are using the same spell ID's as the player's dragoon

so the attack damage is wrong.

[pallid flame]

I assume not in the player's favor

[iron bone]

probably not

i can't even like fix it in a good way to avoid it. if i move the spells for players inside dramod i don't get the rounding from the script engine

but also syuveil wing blaster at 440% does 1945 damage

syuveil jade dragon at 1320%
does 2364 danage

that makes no sense

[pallid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[iron bone]

i might just change base SC to duplicate the table and have a table for players and monsters

🤷‍♂️

[iron bone]

fixed

[iron bone]

minor pcs bug?

[tired orbit]

you probably modified pcs to the point it can be called pcs 2 so i cant say

[sweet wyvern]

No idea what I'm supposed to be looking at

[iron bone]

after belzac used grand stream and nearly one hit ko lavitz he is still standing instead of kneeling

when he took his turn then he kneeled

[sweet wyvern]

Ah

[shrewd cypress]

he's just built different.

[rough tree]

I think it’s a retail bug, I vaguely remember poses not changing unless they are dead

[iron bone]

So after playing through 95% of the game..

I am buffing haschel's mechanic.

[sweet wyvern]

Now you're gonna have to play through it again to test it

[iron bone]

nope

nu uh if i can play fine with the nerfed version people will be fine with the buffed version

also there is basically no thunder based enemies and i doubt people will be buying a 1200 flash hall to beat a boss.

i used it... 3 times during the whole playthrough and like when you convert enemies to thunder that's the problem

the beta testers can test if it is too op or not xD. what's important is that the monsters are right.

[iron bone]

Haschel - Thunder Charge & Static Charge
While Haschel is in the party and has obtained his Dragoon Spirit, enemies can be applied with a "Thunder Charge".
Thunder Charge is gained 50% of the time when performing Thunder based damage.
When Haschel is performing a physical attack there is a 50% of gaining a Thunder Charge regardless of Thunder-based physical attacks.
When Haschel is performing a physical attack in Dragoon form there is second 50% chance of gaining a Thunder Charge. Both 50% chances can only add 1 Thunder Charge.
At the maximum 10 stacks of Thunder Charge on an enemy, Haschel can use Dragoon Form Spark Net to deal 2.93x 3.5x damage.
Dragoon Form Spark Net will deal ~~8.8x ~~ 7.07x damage to Thunder based enemy at Dragoon level 1. This damage will increase by 1.01x per Dragoon level maxing out at Dragoon Lv 7 at 13.13x damage. The next thunder based attack by any party member, to the same enemy, will be increased by 3x. This additional bonus can not be used with Dragoon Form Spark Net.

When equipped with the weapon "Thunder Fist" or "Overcharge Glove" there is a possibility to gain 2 Thunder Charge's in a single turn.
Current Thunder Charges will be displayed under Haschel's portrait when attacking a single target.

You can use the battle menu to select Static Charge and all Thunder Charges will be collected from each enemy, dead or alive. You can carry up to 20 Thunder Charges and apply a maximum of 10 to an enemy at a time. If you have any excess they will be lost at the time of using a Static Charge. A secondary bar will appear above Haschel's portait displaying the amount of Thunder Charges gathered. Applying Thunder Charges this way disables gaining them from the normal method.

[iron bone]

what the hell is wrong with base game why is burning wave doing more than DD cannon

[iron bone]

who did this

[iron bone]

So I need to figure out how I did custom items because like i4gor. I want an ultimate boss to use one of them. After that the not so secret surprise happens.

[rough tree]

Moon Child spared as always

[tawdry folio]

@iron bone I got dropped a Fire Arrow in Villude but it didn't appear in Shana's inventory? Is that currently disabled?

[tawdry folio]

Same with the Wind Arrow in Nest of the Dragon

[iron bone]

Press up on Shana's turn in battle.

[tawdry folio]

ohhhhh thank you!

[iron bone]

this boss script is unholy.

[iron bone]

??????????????????? THIS IS A THING OR I HAVE A BUG

[tired orbit]

check enemy stats resist flags

[iron bone]

i know i am just like surprised

because i never really used status equips

i have a bug 😛 drake is set to 255

[iron bone]

im currently trying to un soft lock my change to this boss lol

[rough tree]

You never have access to Stun on weapons and items at this point so it makes sense?

[iron bone]

it was tied only to ultimate bosses ops.

[iron bone]

last boss for the beta 👀

[robust sun]

oooooo, must be my secret birthday present 😁 🥳 (my birthdays today, im EDT time zone and I been following this amazing mod for nearly 2 years watching from the sidelines 😛)

[unreal vapor]

Nice
I want to test all your mod 😌

[iron bone]

Exception in thread "pool-2-thread-10" java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to load directory .\files\SECT\DRGN0.BIN\4535
at legend.game.unpacker.Loader.loadDirectory(Loader.java:235)
at legend.game.unpacker.Loader.lambda$loadDirectory$6(Loader.java:113)
at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1144)
at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:642)
at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583)
Caused by: java.nio.file.NotDirectoryException: .\files\SECT\DRGN0.BIN\4535
at java.base/sun.nio.fs.WindowsDirectoryStream.<init>(WindowsDirectoryStream.java:84)
at java.base/sun.nio.fs.WindowsFileSystemProvider.newDirectoryStream(WindowsFileSystemProvider.java:541)
at java.base/java.nio.file.Files.newDirectoryStream(Files.java:481)
at legend.game.unpacker.Loader.loadDirectory(Loader.java:209)
... 4 more
Exception in thread "pool-2-thread-15" java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to load directory .\files\SECT\DRGN0.BIN\4536\0
at legend.game.unpacker.Loader.loadDirectory(Loader.java:235)
at legend.game.unpacker.Loader.lambda$loadDirectory$6(Loader.java:113)
at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1144)
at java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:642)
at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583)
Caused by: java.nio.file.NotDirectoryException: .\files\SECT\DRGN0.BIN\4536\0
at java.base/sun.nio.fs.WindowsDirectoryStream.<init>(WindowsDirectoryStream.java:84)
at java.base/sun.nio.fs.WindowsFileSystemProvider.newDirectoryStream(WindowsFileSystemProvider.java:541)
at java.base/java.nio.file.Files.newDirectoryStream(Files.java:481)
at legend.game.unpacker.Loader.loadDirectory(Loader.java:209)
... 4 more

who

me abouit to kill this boss and "DOES NOT EXIST?????????????!"

[iron bone]

[tired orbit]

are you gooning son

[iron bone]

the final goon. im on the moon.

i went a bit out of order but it's fine.

[unreal vapor]

Fire attack, interesting

Soon we'll get the MOD 🥰

[iron bone]

With a... quarter? of the extra content I am exactly 1 hr behind old hell mode (no extra content) and under leveled by 4/5.

[pallid flame]

Dart looks.... interesting😂

[sweet wyvern]

That's his low quality model lol

[half kelp]

funny finding we made... if i'm correct are at least 5 different models of Dart in different qualities... i'm assuming that TLoD do not applies LOD

[shrewd cypress]

There is at least one kind of LoD, but idk whether some or all of it is used by the game. That would be the UV maps.

[sweet wyvern]

There's no legend of detail code in level of dragoon

[shrewd cypress]

LOL

so they made all those sizes for nothing?

[sweet wyvern]

Yup

[shrewd cypress]

Fuck me.

thanks for confirmation.

[sweet wyvern]

You're welcome lol

[unreal vapor]

The best team

[iron bone]

i have to dig into old dramod code to find something 💀

[small root]

world map model, in-map model, combat model, transformation model, and a seperate one for each spell, and another of those for the other dragoon mode.

Also the beta model if we count that

[sweet wyvern]

Nah we're just talking about submap models

There were something like 7 different ones, not including the special ones like where he's carrying Shana (that's a single model)

[small root]

gotcha

[half kelp]

also to clarify... LOD (Level Of Detail) is a technique used in 3D to set model quality depending on the distance to the Camera, this way you can add more objects to the scene and depending on a set distance the model get load another replacing model of more quality and so on... since TLoD had not that in the Engine but simply they set a Model Quality depending to the Scene and how close the Camera was of Dart...

[marsh agate]

I saw on the installation instructions I need to put the files into the mods folder, but there is no mods folder in severed chains I extracted

Do I just make one in the same root folder?

[shrewd cypress]

yes, you can just make one, but see my reply to your message in general chat first.

[marsh agate]

Thanks, sorry about the dumb confusion

[wraith tusk]

Hello, will the hell mode be available soon for the beta version? (Version after test)

[shrewd cypress]

Yes, very very soon. Please wait for an announcement. :)

[north moss]

been a long time since i played, had to get a new pc. i downloaded the pc port from the website, then went to the dragoon modifier lastest dev build on github and downloaded what was there but when i start up the game and click new campaign i dont see the modifier in the mods list. what am i missing here?

nevermind, i should use my eye balls

[iron bone]

Dragoon Modifier v2.0 Beta for Severed Chains RB3 (Changes not finalized)

Any crashes while using this mod please post them directly here in this channel and no where else. Everything is subject to change. This is a temporary custom build of SC, please separate it from any existing copy.

Quick how to
While exploring submaps press SQUARE or key C to open the DraMod Menu.
While exploring submaps press SELECT or key V to open the DraMod Achievements screen.
Press UP or DOWN in battle to open the secondary battle menu to activate character abilities.
Hell Mode has locked some gameplay options.
The following options are locked.
Inventory Size will stay at 32 until you beat a few Ultimate Bosses (Disc 3 after Flanvel Tower)
[DM] Enrage Mode - On
[DM] Elemental Bomb - On
Dragroon Detransformation - After Turn (Select the Dragoon button to detransform after action)
Dragoon Guard - Off (unlocked at Dragoon Level 6)
Dragoon Escape - Off
Dragoon Equip Effects - Off (makes Hell Mode too easy)
Dragoon Items - Off (makes Hell Mode too easy)

Download
https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0-HellMode-Beta-1

Character enhancement overview
Dart – Any attack in Dragoon will give Burn stacks. While Dart has any amount of stacks use the secondary battle menu to activate them and the next attack will increase damage. At max all spells use 0 MP.
Lavitz/Albert – Using Dragoon Magic will cause status effect Wind Mark on enemies. The next time that enemy is attacked their turn meter is lowered. Wind Barrier costs MP per turn and whenever Lavitz/Albert are attacked the attackers turn meter is lowered.
Shana/??? – Get elemental arrows from various locations to use item magic when using a physical attack. Arrows go into your inventory and can not be equipped.
Rose – Any attack in Dragoon will give Siphon. When Siphon is maxed this will be added to the base damage of the next attack.
Haschel - When Haschel is in the party any thunder based attack has a 50% chance to add a Thunder Charge to an enemy. If Haschel is in Dragoon form every dragoon attack performed by Haschel has two separate 50% chances to generate a Thunder Charge. When Haschel is not in Dragoon form there is only one 50% chance to generate a Thunder Charge. At most Haschel can apply two thunder charges in a single attack. When the Thunder Charge bar is full (10 charges applied to a single enemy) Haschel can deal 7.07 + (Haschel's dragoon level - 1 * 1.01) times more damage with Dragoon Form Spark Net. If the enemy was Thunder element this damge is multipled by an additional 3.5 times damage.

Haschel can gather all Thunder Charges present on every monster, dead or alive, with Static Charge. The next time Haschel attacks will apply all Thunder Charges, up to a maximum of 10, gathered with the Static Charge to a single enemy.
Meru – Ice Shield depletes 10 MP per turn, any attack Meru does a small portion of it will be gained as Ice Shield. When in this state guard is also increased from 8% to 15%.
Kongol – Kongol’s speed is set to 0 and whenever he is attacked he will gain full turn meter in Counter Stance. In this state Kongol will heal whenever he takes a turn, is always considered having lesser guard, and can only attack.

Known issues
Some monsters when using “Show Turn Order” appear as “?”. Please report the encounter so they can be fixed.
Known missing monsters: Crafty Thief, DD Ball, DD Cannon, Windigo Heart, Michael (core), Madman
All but "Loop" achievements should be obtainable, but have not been tested. Please report any achievement that can not be obtained other than the one listed below.
Overcapped achievement does not work with item magic.
Selecting a difficulty other than Hell Mode crashes the game
Fire Spirit bug?
Game allows you to fully special at 500 SP even with all level 7s.
Shana's lv6 ability soft locks.
Divine Dragoon/Zieg(?) bugs the game, but should not be obtainable in the beta. If you already beat Ultimate Boss Fire Bird there is no more content after this point in the beta.
Some stardust achievements are triggering earlier than expected.

Jank to be fixed later
DraMenu and DraAchievements does not resize with the window.
Weak Shield and Shield Generator display the amount on the character in slot 1 instead of who it is used on.
Ultimate Drake the Bandit stutters when attacked while Enemy Perfect Shield is activated.
The display of additional numbers is implemented terribly.
Achievement display becomes jank in some scenarios.

Beta jank
The “Loop” achievement can not be obtained as you can’t gain the final repeat items in this version.

Extra/Changed Features
Check the readme for even more details!
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/refs/heads/hellmode/mods/dramod-readme.txt
Dragoons max level is now raised from 5 to 7 and are vastly more powerful than base game.

Shana and Lavitz can be added back to the party once they go “missing”.

Hell Mode has been rebalanced. All bosses now have Automatic Protection Shield at certain HP intervals. Due to this many of the early game bosses have had their Max HP lowered as well. Severed Chains has made making additional content easier, to speed up progression through the story, all boss encounters now provide an additional 50% EXP and all party members will count as alive at the end of battle. Hell Mode encourages you to swap party members, use the Level Sync feature to sync all characters level based on the character with the highest EXP up to a certain amount. There is no more Hell Mode+ as it is now the standard Hell Mode. Based on feedback during the beta the difficulty will be adjusted.

Many of the shops have brand new equips. You can also access the Hero Competition Shop through the DraMod Menu so you don’t have to buy tickets.

Powerful elemental items will change the element of monsters to element of the item used for a certain amount of turns. You can buy these for the Ele Bomb Shop through the DraMod Menu after Lohan Hero Competition.

Return to the Black Castle after Disc 1 to find a mysterious new researcher! You can exit the black castle by going back through the underground entrance.

Refight bosses for new rewards by returning to Forbidden Land and using the DraMod menu to start an Ultimate Boss. The first three bosses can be done at around level 30. The next five of bosses can be done at around level 35-40.

While in Forbidden Land or Aglis you can access the Wingly Forest or Rogue item shop through the DraMod Menu as you are trapped there once you’ve entered.

Kamuy and Polter Armor may be harder than expected when first encountering them. Completing the Kamuy quest gives you 5x the 5x amount.

Dragoons in Vellweb can be fought at around level 40.

The Moon is no longer the point of no return. Once you reach the Lunar Core after beating Archangel you can warp back to Ulara using DraMod Menu.

Fight a mirror version of Faust on the Lunar Core map with the big screens of Seles using the DraMod Menu for a ton of EXP. Fight this version of Faust 40 times or battle him when any character is level 60 to get Armor of Legend and Legend Casque.

Missing Features
Lohan Arena
Experimental Monsters Bounty Quests
Ultimate Boss Stage 3 and Stage 4
Return to Hellena Prison
Return to Phantom Ship
Shana is missing her level 7 Dragoon ability.

[tired orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-homelander-surprised-gif-26218098

[shrewd cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-mr-bean-awkward-what-the-uh-oh-gif-19287039

[small root]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-what-gif-3377253578893161957

[robust sun]

https://lparchive.org/The-Legend-of-Dragoon/Update 57/57-freakout.gif

[unborn flame]

love that lol

[iron bone]

.

[iron bone]

I only tested this on Windows and Linux if anyone has Steam Deck or MacOS and it does not work let me know.

[tiny fern]

i can test on macos after work today, in around 6 hours

and if nobody can test on steamdeck by then it'll be my sign to finally buy one 👀

[primal herald]

I'll be glad to try it on my Deck here in a little bit

[tiny fern]

wow that's crazy i can't read this message for some reason, guess i'm gonna have to buy a steamdeck 🤔

[unreal vapor]

@iron bone finally, you did!

[iron bone]

😭 😭 😭

[full bolt]

Some monsters when using “Show Turn Order” appear as “?”. Please report the encounter so they can be fixed.
The "Trent" fight on the worldmap at the start of the game has this issue 🙂
The "Assassin Cock" has this issue too in the fight with both him and the Trent in the forest

Thanks a lot for all your work, i'll love playing through the beta 👌

[cedar path]

The more, the merrier. Go ahead buddy 👍
Random lurker 👀 here, I’ll test on the steam deck as well.

[primal herald]

I've got it running on my Deck! two things:

1. I had to set the executable permission manually, thank you for including that in the website instructions

2. in Game Mode, the audio was off until I went to the audio settings and interacted with the Audio Device setting. just pressing it seemed to get it to recognize the audio device again

[iron bone]

ope- thank you. glad it is working.

[primal herald]

one other thing, when looking at the settings menu: the Start button is used for both getting a help description on certain items and opening the DraMod menu at the same time

[bitter rampart]

Is the new modifier hellmode compatible with the QoL build?

[shrewd cypress]

No, this is already its own custom build of SC. Please read the announcement in full.

[primal herald]

I haven't played Severed Chains or Dragoon Modifier before, so I don't know if this is normal, but I appear to have started with all the Dragon Stones. Dart can transform into a Dragoon from the very first battle. is this intended?

[unreal vapor]

It must be something from Dragoon Modifier
Severed Chains didn't have that option

[iron bone]

hmm i'll need to remap it to another key then

[full bolt]

It's intended, you'll probably need it in your second battle 😅

[iron bone]

yes this is intended. hell mode is the unofficial new game+ 😛

[full bolt]

I didn't said anything

[iron bone]

Well to answer your question that I didn't see, yes it's new and every boss has it.

[full bolt]

Does bursting them get through it or it will be considering in their total HP anyway ?

[iron bone]

Yep you can burst through them.

[full bolt]

Should I edit my message about the "?" monsters or should I always just post a new one ?

• One of the two Slime in the room after Urobulos has the issue

[iron bone]

no just post a new one i will update the message in the pinned messages

[full bolt]

Ok 👌

[iron bone]

see i made the feature and i forgot to turn it on during disc 1

but i was well passed disc 1 by the time i remembered

[wraith tusk]

Hello, I was able to test a bit of the changes in the dramod this morning. First of all, good work to the whole team. I don’t know if it’s normal, but the changes to the dramod during a new game are automatically unchecked after each fight, such as the number of spots in the inventory which amounts to 32, so I have to put everything back into place, which can be frustrating in the long run.

[sweet wyvern]

I believe hell mode overrides your inventory size since it has items or something that expand it

[wraith tusk]

@sweet wyvern Thank you for the quick response. However, the majority of the options in the dramod are unchecked by themselves; it is not just the inventory such as the dragoon escape menu, dragoon guard menu etc. Possible that there is something I didn’t understand.

[sweet wyvern]

Gotcha, will have to wait for Zy to get back to respond

[full bolt]

• The two Sandora soldiers in Hoax are "?"
• The sandora Elite fight has his two clones as "?", they also have the full shield value so it's pretty easy to get the right one first try

I'll stop for now, just after getting the 50 battles achievement right after Hoax, for now the balance seems fine to me and it's really fun !

[primal herald]

I'm noticing on Steam Deck that the text doesn't break lines appropriately

[half kelp]

Garry is ducking lol

sorry but that last line looks like write that hahaha

jokes aside... adding align properties for those RECTs would be something... 🤔 ... the GUI use a generic RECT isn't it?... maybe would be good implementing a RECT Subclass with Align properties?

[shrewd cypress]

well, there's gonna be a bigger menu overhaul later.

[iron bone]

Monoxide is right, Hell Mode will turn on/off features every battle. Inventory Size is controlled through Ultimate Boss which unlocks in disc 3. Only for Hard Mode (which will currently crash the game) I will leave these options alone.

[iron bone]

Ah this is the first time DraMod is used on Linux.. I will have to remove that old relic from emulator DraMod for the new lines. Thank you.

I'll just copy what base SC is doing.

[ruby tartan]

It does this on Windows as well 🙂

[iron bone]

oh if that is the case maybe it is just that one item let me check

[ruby tartan]

And yes I have to turn on the inventory features and Dragoon options every battle. Thats exepcted at the moment?

[iron bone]

Hell Mode locks some features on/off. Inventory size is one of them.

[ruby tartan]

Ah. I see.

[primal herald]

it's multiple of the basic items, that I see

[ruby tartan]

Also the readme on github is a blank page?

[iron bone]

Odd... I'll still have to copy whatever base SC does it just works.

[ruby tartan]

Very grateful for this hell mode. Thank you btw

[iron bone]

https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/blob/main/mods/dramod-readme.txt
this is the player readme for the mod

[ruby tartan]

Just blank for me? Is it safari?

[iron bone]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/refs/heads/hellmode/mods/dramod-readme.txt

[ruby tartan]

that works

[iron bone]

sorry i update the link that was the old readme

[nova mulch]

I dont know if I fucked something up, starting the game I should have an option here to have all the characters at level 1 yes?

[iron bone]

option is disabled on the beta.

[nova mulch]

o7

[unreal vapor]

Swap all dragoons?

WHAT

[iron bone]

if you want to punish yourself you can turn off all dragoon spirits at the start

Spyrokid did that once I believe.

[lean sentinel]

Nice, DraMod is on the menu!! Hype. If I play the beta, will the save work on release?

[iron bone]

Yes the saves will be compatible with the full release.

[lean sentinel]

Thanks!

[shrewd cypress]

I have added English captions to the new video. :)

[nova mulch]

dear sweet jesus, Cave serpent was harder than expected

I have 2 revives and no heals

[pallid flame]

What part of "Hell Mode" made you think anything would be easier than expected?🤣

[unreal vapor]

Thank you ^^

[silk ledge]

Description of Healing Potion goes out the box in "Use Item" screen.

oh, I guess every item's description needs a line break.

[unreal vapor]

For what I saw in the video, I´m going to LOVE Shana´s elemental arrows ^^

[iron bone]

Thanks, it'll be fixed in the next update soon™.

Not sure why it is working for me and me alone but 🤷‍♂️

[unreal vapor]

The interface will be fixed, I asume?

[iron bone]

Why do you want it to be fixed? You don't want to see Kongol all the time?

It's how the game works in retail when you have >7 characters

Which great news for LoD it only has 8 playable characters.

[unreal vapor]

I want to see every character, including blonde girl xD

It´s a bit... weird

[silk ledge]

ngl I miss the Turbo button from Sen's QoL build. It was soo nice.

[unreal vapor]

Anyway if it can´t be fixed, I´m not going to complain

[silk ledge]

Oh and this is from the "Controls" screen.

[unreal vapor]

Ok I´m finally at home, let´s try the thing

[iron bone]

Ah.. running it through the cmd file causes the line skip not to work.

Why did it work in RB2.1 then?

[iron bone]

ope- thank you

i thought ink added a hotkey to set speed multiplier to 1

[unreal vapor]

I don´t really understand this

And this... what´s for?

[shrewd cypress]

it's an Ultimate Boss selector. For example, "5" selects Ultimate Drake

[unreal vapor]

Oooooh

[shrewd cypress]

after selecting a number, exit back to submap. Press C for the DraMod Menu, select "Ultimate Boss" and press confirm. Press C to exit menu. Battle will commence immediately.

[unreal vapor]

I see ^^

This happens to me too

Apart from that, I had the first battle against soldiers, they have more HP but fewer turns than Dart (Dart had many), I assume that´s intended

It´s allowed to use debugger? I think I´m going to cheat a bit, but only to check everything faster, I don´t really have the time for grind xD

[iron bone]

I had a build where I removed the debugger

But I decided against it.

[unreal vapor]

Mmm sorry but against Commander (first battle) I transformed Dart and the first spell had 510% of damage, is that correct? I instakilled the boss (like 18 damage)

[iron bone]

Yes that is one of the two ways to easily get through that boss now.

[unreal vapor]

I assume the other is with attack items

[iron bone]

uh why are these shops available to you they shouldn't be available until lohan

[unreal vapor]

They were since the beginning

[iron bone]

well glad i didn't disable the debugger now

[unreal vapor]

Also: I checked these options but after the battle they disabled themselves

[iron bone]

can you open up the gamestate viewer and send it to me here

[iron bone]

Yes hell mode turns on/off what features it needs.

[unreal vapor]

Oooh I see

[unreal vapor]

Sure

Gold is so high because I cheated, I didn´t touch anything else from debugger

[iron bone]

[unreal vapor]

"Assassin Cock"

[iron bone]

Yep known issue, you can check the post below the pinned post to find the known "?" enemies

[unreal vapor]

I´ll check ^^

[iron bone]

Ok two issues down.

[silk ledge]

huh, When I fought a single Trent, that had a ? Icon....

[unreal vapor]

Maybe they fixed Trent already, idk

Nope, is not fixed

Now Trent is the only enemy and it has the ? mark

I died against a fuck*ng Trent, game´s beyond hard 🙈 specially if you fail the additions like me

[iron bone]

I've toned done several normal enemies from the feedback from last time.

[pallid flame]

Preesh

[iron bone]

who did this

this is a playstation game

and which a/b/x/y nintendon't or microsoft

😛

[silk ledge]

What does the (28) here stand for?

[iron bone]

All bosses get shields at certain intervals. You should have seen some orange damage numbers by now. Those are damage to the shields.

[silk ledge]

Ah okay.

[unreal vapor]

Ok time to sleep, another day I´ll continue the mission ^^

[iron bone]

new line fixed

can someone else test it too? (need testing for both windows and any linux device.)
just drop this in the mods folder
DraMenu is Square(controller)/C(keyboard) for this version

[visual crane]

@iron bone What's the prospect on Dramod+QoL?

I know you want to make a droppable mod out of it as opposed to a build but I still don't know how well they would mix

And it's likely I'll have inquiries for it soon™ now that you've opened the flood gates

[iron bone]

Once Monoxide reviews and approves all of my changes I made to base SC's mod api to make hell mode work, you would just have to update your QoL build to RB3.

[visual crane]

I see I see

We certainly have some overlaps with modifications so I wonder how that will go

[iron bone]

Not well.

[visual crane]

https://tenor.com/bdwws.gif

[iron bone]

I don't know what Ink did to make DraMod and Irongoon compatible.

[visual crane]

Let me know whenever that moves along so I can fuck around with it

There's a world where it doesn't clash too much

||Doubt we leave it in though||

[iron bone]

There is mod priority.

[visual crane]

So yours should in theory "override" some of my stuff where applicable?

[iron bone]

But that's over the API calls not sure how it works in your QOL build.

[visual crane]

Yeah I'm guilty and criminal in that sense

Mine's just a straight modification of code

[iron bone]

Sounds like you have a rewrite to do when we start RB4 if you want it compatible with any other mods.

[visual crane]

we'll see if that ever happens 😆

[iron bone]

This is my third rewrite of DraMod for Serverd Chains.

[visual crane]

I don't currently have the knowledge to even know how I would need to rewrite it

So chances are more on the low side

[iron bone]

Does Irongoon work with QoL currently?

[visual crane]

Never tried or had anyone say it does/doesn't

I can give that a go right now

[iron bone]

🧐

[visual crane]

Doesnt crash for a start

Idk the mod well enough to verify functionality but I've made it passed the first battle

It did kinda crap the bed when receiving item though

inventory cap is 30 but I got the too many items screen with 3 items in my inventory

Is that enough to answer the question? 😆

[iron bone]

I believe so.

[visual crane]

It will probably be tricky

[rough tree]

I'll begin a playthrough of the beta tomorrow to help give visuals and feedback. Excited to try it out! 😮

[nova mulch]

Fruegal was much easier than expect, Hoax.... much harder at level 7

[rough tree]

Having issues with launching for the first time, error log: 21:58:00.855 [Thread-1 legend.game.unpacker.scripts.ScriptPatcher:142] ERROR: Patch failed for script: scripts/DRGN21/123/1.diff
Exception in thread "Thread-1" java.lang.RuntimeException: com.github.difflib.patch.PatchFailedException: could not apply patch due to POSITION_OUT_OF_TARGET
at legend.core.GameEngine.lambda$start$6(GameEngine.java:230)
at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583)
Caused by: com.github.difflib.patch.PatchFailedException: could not apply patch due to POSITION_OUT_OF_TARGET
at com.github.difflib.patch.Patch.lambda$new$e23a5734$1(Patch.java:197)
at com.github.difflib.patch.Patch.applyToExisting(Patch.java:77)
at com.github.difflib.patch.Patch.applyTo(Patch.java:59)
at com.github.difflib.DiffUtils.patch(DiffUtils.java:204)
at org.legendofdragoon.scripting.Patcher.applyPatch(Patcher.java:49)
at legend.game.unpacker.scripts.ScriptPatcher.patchFile(ScriptPatcher.java:195)
at legend.game.unpacker.scripts.ScriptPatcher.patchFile(ScriptPatcher.java:182)
at legend.game.unpacker.scripts.ScriptPatcher.patchFile(ScriptPatcher.java:173)
at legend.game.unpacker.scripts.ScriptPatcher.apply(ScriptPatcher.java:140)
at legend.core.GameEngine.lambda$start$6(GameEngine.java:213)
... 1 more

Disregard, reinstalled everything with a different iso

[unreal vapor]

Ok so is this an update of the custom build? I'll test it as soon as I can, boss 2

[unreal vapor]

WHY YOU DID THIS TO ME 🥲

There´s no shop xD

Question boss 2: What´s the meaning of Remove Second/third slot?

Enrage mechanic is too much 🫠 a warden from Hellena almost killed me with spark nets 🥲

[full bolt]

You have to be sure you're able to get the kill when you put someone in red 👀

Btw is Sandora elite supposed to 50/50 between his red magic and his knives throw when the battle start? I managed to beat him first try but he's way more dangerous than Kongol

[unreal vapor]

I fail additions too much

Btw:

@iron bone if you press "swap Lavitz" option in Dramod menu, this happens...

He unlocks his final addition without a battle and without having all the other additions (I have them at 99 because I cheated with debug, but when he joined he had Flower Storm independent of the other additions)

[unreal vapor]

A fucking Trent is more dangerous than the Giganto for sure

[full bolt]

You can use "automatic addition" 🙂

[unreal vapor]

That´s what I´m using to test Dramod, but in a future I want to be able to do good the additions, like when I was a child

[unreal vapor]

Swap Lavitz unlocks final addition xD

[full bolt]

It's only the name isn't it ?

It's spinning cane number of hit, SP and dmg%

The same for Rod typhoon just earlier

[unreal vapor]

No, it´s the final addition, I tested it in battle

The number of hit and that stuff is bugged

It does the damage of a final addition

Right know at level 1, it does 32 damage against Hellena wardens

[full bolt]

Ok !

[nova mulch]

New tech discovered, get lavitz final edition instantly

[iron bone]

removed party members from the second and third slot

[iron bone]

only ultimate bosses have new scripts so nothing changed there

[iron bone]

so by the time you need to use this and if you've used lavitz for the entirety of disc 1 this won't show up.

however the code is completely wrong in base SC.

in battle it will check all additions if party flag 0x40 is checked
in the additionlistmenu it just does nothing and unlocks it

well i am blaming retail because it happens there too. it should be the same as the battle code.

[unreal vapor]

Ok thank you ^^

[unreal vapor]

I see

Turn order changes during attacks, it doesn´t care if it´s yours or from the enemies

[iron bone]

Any action the changes the RNG seed will do that.

[unreal vapor]

Btw Fruegel 1 is weaker than the random enemies

xDDD

[nova mulch]

not weaker, just less threatening

[unreal vapor]

Ok never mind, he´s bulkier

[iron bone]

Well back in day 2016 it was intended that both Fruegel and Urobolos were easy because there was no shop.

[nova mulch]

Fruegel 1 atleast has a shop

stupid serpent on the otherhand...

I am getting 'Nam type flashbacks

[iron bone]

I can add the Hellena shop.

[unreal vapor]

Technically there´s a shop

[iron bone]

I did this for uh... Forbidden Land and Aglis.

[unreal vapor]

The merchant just before Fruegel 1

[iron bone]

That merchant is gone if you go back to the Forest.

[unreal vapor]

Before Urobolos there isn´t tho

[unreal vapor]

I´m not talking about that

There´s a merchant inside Hellena

[iron bone]

Yes we were discussing Urobolos.

[unreal vapor]

Oh

Yeah, Urobolus doesn´t have any merchant, it would be amazing if you add Hellena´s shop

[nova mulch]

Thats why I have Nam flashbacks, just like, last week I was dealing with the serpent without having enough items due to hard mode xD

[unreal vapor]

Because the game with Hell mode is... SOMETHING

You´re a demon with the random enemies

[iron bone]

the random enemies are easy, there was turn order in 2016 and now the turn order is actual on the screen.

[unreal vapor]

That´s terrible, and you did all the additions perfectly?

[nova mulch]

Yes

[unreal vapor]

WTF they´re not easy at all

[iron bone]

the only boss that is a normal enemy is vampire kiwi and mantis.

[unreal vapor]

They have enraged mechanic and throw spells

[nova mulch]

50+ damage spark nets in hellena 1 = D

[unreal vapor]

Btw "dragoon option" is not working

It should detransform

[unreal vapor]

That´s insane

[iron bone]

Please check the pinned posts, dramod turns on/off features.

[unreal vapor]

Oh. So... it´s there for nothing?

[iron bone]

In Hard Mode you can turn them on/off.

Not in Hell Mode.

Speaking of Hard Mode, this isn't Hard Mode or base game you can't just go wack things without planning.

[unreal vapor]

At the beginning random enemies doing 40 damage is not balanced xD

[nova mulch]

I had 27 heals going into hoax at level 7, I came out with 0, all in all, an easy time (dart was one hit from death, lavitz died)

[unreal vapor]

If you fail some additions you´re just dead

[nova mulch]

To be fair, hell mode

[unreal vapor]

Yeah also you need to buy MANY heals

You can turn off some features, but I prefer on, to see the changes

[full bolt]

Having magic items for Kongol is really efficient, especially if you have saved some wind element

But spear frost are enough

[unreal vapor]

Also enraging works for random enemies for sure, they became more aggresive, and a Trent throwing Spark net, that´s not retail

[unreal vapor]

That´s what I´m going to do

[nova mulch]

I never had any wind element ones

[full bolt]

I think you can drop them in the forest before the Urobolos cave

[iron bone]

I can't give away all my secrets but I only had 10 for Fruegel and Urobolos.

• whatever was in the prarie and cave

[nova mulch]

I had much less healing for those

[unreal vapor]

WHAT

[nova mulch]

I over prepared heals for those fights

[full bolt]

Maybe you should use more attack items, they are reaaaaally strong, even used with Dart

Greham and Feyrbrand done, no "?" in the nest or the forest 👌

[unreal vapor]

But you need to farm additions, right?

[full bolt]

Yeah sure but you have to beat the bosses too :p

[iron bone]

Options are locked due to difficulty preservation. It changes when entering battle.

[unreal vapor]

I can throw items for sure, they're cheap

[unreal vapor]

I see, so it doesn't matter what do you change in menu

[full bolt]

Without much farming Dart is already done in shirley Shrine and Lavitz have only Gust of wind dance to farm

[nova mulch]

Wish i had l2 drag for kongol on dart, life would have been easier xD

[unreal vapor]

You're a monster XD congrats

[iron bone]

everything has such high hp you don't need to farm

[full bolt]

Exactly

[unreal vapor]

Anyway, maybe it's just me, but doing full additions is hard

I need to turn on auto additions

Or I die

[full bolt]

Especially because with the magic signet stone it's easier to beat the trash mobs

The one that use AOE magic attack are nasty

[unreal vapor]

Okay so what you're telling me is that there are difficulty spikes

[full bolt]

Well, it's the hell mode so yes 😅

I think fire bird without water item might be reaaally hard

On my first try he spammed his strongest aoe attack in red and in the second attempt he switched with his single attack, it was way more manageable

[iron bone]

Run back to Bale

[full bolt]

Already done don't worry

[iron bone]

the world map gets used a lot in hell mode

the only normal enemies i had trouble with was kashua glacier which i omega nerfed them

they were stronger than the ones in vellweb even with similar stats.

[unreal vapor]

I always buy a ton of ice items because of that bird

I don't have problem remembering the bosses order and what items I must buy to beat them

[unreal vapor]

Wow

You did an excellent work Z boss, that's for sure, hell is HELL
Anyway I'll test everything

[iron bone]

I'm sending out a new update once I take pictures of those missing monsters

[unreal vapor]

Okay

I will not be able to test anything until tonight at least

[pallid flame]

How can you take their picture if they're missing?

[full bolt]

Thanks more and more is unlocked next lvl 🤣

[iron bone]

I didn't add the earlier additions unlcoks to hell mode ope 😛

[full bolt]

Earlier additions was nice especially for her and Meru

[nova mulch]

Lets just cry in dart unlock levels

[full bolt]

It's really nice that you made the change that everybody get xp after a boss fight, it felt kind of awkward to wait until 2 of the party members were killed to finish the boss

[full bolt]

At least crush dance* is good for both sp and dmg

[unreal vapor]

But you can do that with the XP option inside SC gameplay options

Unless you're talking about other option

[nova mulch]

This actively ruined my plans

[unreal vapor]

Level sync is a god send

[full bolt]

I'm speaking about the 50% xp boost on bosses but the 3 party members share the total amount

[nova mulch]

I thought i was being clever killing them off to funnel exp then level sync

[full bolt]

It was the strat on the old dragoon modifier

[unreal vapor]

That's clever indeed

[unreal vapor]

OH

[nova mulch]

It doesnt work tho, so it was a waste of time

[unreal vapor]

So now is like the same if you have one or three characters alive?

[full bolt]

Yup

[unreal vapor]

How's that?

[unreal vapor]

Interesting

[nova mulch]

Since all characters are counted alive at the end of bosses, you cant funnel exp and level sync

It was tragic learning this

[unreal vapor]

Oh 🙈

[iron bone]

it's why i was 6 levels underleveled by end game compared to original hell mode. but everyone is so much stronger than original hell mode it was fine.

[full bolt]

BTW I had some weird things about Rose passive

[iron bone]

death dimension?

[full bolt]

Against Drake it showed something like 350 heal after death dimension

But her HP didn't change

Ah, already known issue then, mb

[iron bone]

I really need to add in differnt coloured numbers.

I can only chose from like 5 of them.

That was your total siphon amount.

If rose has 579 Max HP or w/e. It'll display an additional number letting you know the current siphon amount.

So when the second number says 579 you can use Siphon overflow or just check Rose's bar to see if it is full.

I'll change it to white.

[full bolt]

Thanks for explaining 👌

[iron bone]

oh..

I mislabeled one of the monsters.

I had Monster ID 148 and Monster ID 149 as Madman but they are actually Slimes.

im not sure why some monsters have three IDs but ok.

[full bolt]

At which point in the story you think we should be getting the speed items from Lohan ? I know it's easily farmable right after getting Haschel but that dosn't really seems right

[iron bone]

Speed equips aren't even the best equips half the time now.

You can play without them.

[full bolt]

Even the bandit's shoes ? 😮

[iron bone]

Well that's 100% drop rate from Drake.

You don't need other copies until disc 4.

[full bolt]

It's the ring that is 100% I believe

[iron bone]

oh right yes

i played without farming anything until disc 4 mayfil so i never had enough gold to buy anything

[full bolt]

The senior warden from hellena 2 have the "?" issue

Ok 👌

I'll do without then 🙂

[iron bone]

you'll get enough gold from ultimate boss stage 3 to start buying stuff

thanks for reminding me i should raise the price of dragon helm at least 😛

[full bolt]

It would be fair, those are way too powerful

[iron bone]

the halo of balance is 15000

these helms should be somewhat close to that since they give a similar stat percentage

[full bolt]

Can we still get the weapon for Meru in Hellena 2 ?

[iron bone]

Morning Star? yes.

[unreal vapor]

What?? That's new

[full bolt]

New for LoD vanilla yes, not for dragoon modifier :p

[unreal vapor]

Yeah, I'm new testing Dramod, so for me, everything's new 🙈

[iron bone]

no it's in base game

[full bolt]

Ooooh

Mb then

[iron bone]

it's a 2% drop

[unreal vapor]

WTF

[full bolt]

Make sense I never dropped it while playing vanilla then

[unreal vapor]

I never had that lucky then

[full bolt]

Is it still 2% in Dramod ?

[iron bone]

yep

I only boosted item magic drop rates.

[full bolt]

Hmm, I wont farm it then 😅

[lean sentinel]

Windows defender doesn't let me download it, lol

Done, ignored it, thanks for the update!

[unreal vapor]

Thank you again Zoss

[full bolt]

Jiango is a wall 😮

[cedar path]

It was awesome

[iron bone]

Only download "DraMod v2.0 Beta v1.1" if you have installed the previous v1.0 release otherwise new users should download the full v1.1 matching your operating system from https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0-HellMode-Beta-1. Just paste it into your new SC folder.

Changes
+DraMenu is now changed to SQUARE on Controller. It still remains as C on keyboard.

Bug Fixes
+Lavitz no longer uses the master addition check. If you had Flower Storm while adding Lavitz back you do not need to select another addition if it goes missing.
+Line breaks should now work, it has been changed to check the unicode of the character.
+The story flag checker should work correctly for all events now.
+The control options should be named.
+Loading a save will trigger the appropriate events.
+Some monsters missing from the Turn Order UI have been added.

[iron bone]

I need a checklist of what I should be removing otherwise more crashes.

[full bolt]

Does Jiango have a "counter" ? The turn order feel wrong with this fight

He often skip 1 or 2 characters turn

[iron bone]

Did you see the "!" in the turn order?

[full bolt]

Yes

[iron bone]

Yep, some monsters gain an extra turn.

[full bolt]

Ugh, i'm trying to not use the sachet but I don't think I can pull that off

Is there a way to know when the "!" will appear ? It appears when the attack is already on it's way so it dosn't really help except knowing that he'll wreck the team right after :p

[iron bone]

not unless you study the monster scripts 🙂

general rule is if you attack it is likely to trigger a counter attack after 2/3 hits.

i think faust is the only bosses the counters every hit

[unreal vapor]

For real? So all enemies have some kind of counter mechanic?

That's retail or hell mod behaviour

[iron bone]

only for monsters you see the "!" for

[unreal vapor]

Mm I see

Only seen Hellena special guards (Green in boss fight) at moment

[iron bone]

well that bonus turn is for when they die

[unreal vapor]

Jiango's always difficult, I'll try with magic spam as always

[unreal vapor]

Yep

[iron bone]

unless they do counter? i didn't have visual turn order on until disc 3.

whops.

[unreal vapor]

Np
I have from beginning

I'll say anything that surprise me

[sweet wyvern]

Retail

[full bolt]

Rose spinning gale maxed are doing 350-400 so that's ok but it's hard to keep everyone alive (and not confused)

[unreal vapor]

Gotcha

[unreal vapor]

I think you can buy accesory to prevent conf
Also stay in dragoon to avoid status

[full bolt]

I'd like to stay in dragoon ahah

[unreal vapor]

I hope I can beat that monster in the future

[full bolt]

I'm trying to beat him without using the sachet for now

[unreal vapor]

I'm out of Hellena 1 at moment

[full bolt]

If I can't i'll just use it to make the fight easier

[unreal vapor]

Use Satchet, it's hell mod for a reason 🤣

[iron bone]

trying to save sachet for a special monster 🧐 ?

[full bolt]

Honestly I don't even know, the only special monster I usually kill is the bird near the giganto home, I don't bother with the others

And that one dosn't really need a sachet

[unreal vapor]

Not worth it to save the item for later

Also, you can always cheat with debugger and give yourself Satchets 🤣

[iron bone]

[full bolt]

I managed to beat him without the sachet... With no more healing, attack item or anything to help and with only Lavitz up with 50 hp 🤣

[unreal vapor]

That's amazing, you're the true wind dragoon

[full bolt]

The Fowl Fighter in Hellena have the "?" issue

[iron bone]

added thank you.

[full bolt]

Compared to Jiango, Fruegel 2 felt like a punching bag ahah

[iron bone]

you yeeted the two minions?

[full bolt]

Indeed, they were more dangerous than him

[iron bone]

ultimate boss fruegel has somewhat of a redemption arc

[full bolt]

Knowing some of the old ultimate bosses, I can imagine that ahah

Lavitz no longer uses the master addition check. If you had Flower Storm while adding Lavitz back you do not need to select another addition if it goes missing.
I added Lavitz back and he didn't have Flower storm unlocked. After a fight he got it again lvl 1 and 25/20, after I used 1 time he's back lvl 2 and 26/40
i'm on the 1.1 you sent earlier today

[iron bone]

That's a bug from using it before you were supposed to unlock it >:[

The game checks addition levels

[full bolt]

Oh so we're supposed to unlock it with Albert and then if we add back lavitz he'll get it right away, is that it ?

[iron bone]

wait wait you have everything else

at level 5?

[full bolt]

Yup

[iron bone]

oh ok yeah it is working then

it goes "missing" but it is still selected if you had it selected before

[full bolt]

Oh, ok !

[iron bone]

every time you add him back it will "unlock"

[full bolt]

Am I hallucinating or you changed the color of the knights of sandora inside the castle ?

[cedar path]

Hey all, playing on the steam deck, I don’t have the turn order at all and I don’t see an option to enable it.
Also, how would I apply Zychronix’s update from this morning?
Sorry if this has already been explained elsewhere, I didn’t see it anywhere I looked.

[full bolt]

It's this one in the option -> gameplay that you have in your menu

I think you just have to extract it in the SC folder and accept everything

I wiped on Kongol 2 and got the popup from his achievement

[cedar path]

Thanks, I’ll double check there and see if I just missed it.

I also noticed the achievement pop up when I instantly died against that 1st boss in Seles. But I noticed it pop up again when I beat the same boss.

[harsh escarp]

is party level 1 supposed to be in the dramod menu at the very start?

[silk ledge]

Heh, Same thing happened to me with the Commander in Seles lol

[tired orbit]

@iron bone im gonna beat u if u added missable achievements

[iron bone]

Just paste it into the new SC folder.

[iron bone]

Disabled in the beta.

[full bolt]

Yup, got it after the fight 🙂

[iron bone]

Nope all are achieveable... also if you can go back to every area is anything missable?

[tired orbit]

events

[iron bone]

uh

...1 is.

but not really

because you can go get it from the ultimate boss.

[full bolt]

Is it the one that you get in the marsh ?

[iron bone]

mhm.. but you can get it in forbidden land by doing the very first ultimate boss.

[tired orbit]

uh

can you go back to phantom ship aswell

[iron bone]

next update

it's one of the missing features i didn't put in the update because phantom ship wiill be like flanvel tower.

[nova mulch]

This happened to me on kongol 1

[full bolt]

Dragoon Doel is a nightmare ahah, I don't survive more than 3 turns during his shield phase, I must be forgetting something about this ? 🤔

[iron bone]

🙂

You had a break with fruegel.

What level are you

[nova mulch]

I am considering redoing the entire early game, and just… not having a third character until rose

For that sweet, sweet sp farming on dart and lavitz

[full bolt]

16

Maybe it's bad rng, he throwed 3 AOE in a row under his shield so it was kinda hard to survive

[iron bone]

You should be fine

[iron bone]

There are multiple reasons for removing the second and or third slot character if that is something you wish to do.

[tired orbit]

maybe it wasnt very bright idea to flameshot commander

[iron bone]

Did I raise their HP by accident?

ope

no it's fine.

[tired orbit]

i ran away from every battle in prairie because GOD ALMIGHTY IMMORTAL VAMPIRE KIWI

and now theres orc

[iron bone]

remember in old hell mode where you couldn't escape?

pepperridge farm remembers.

[unreal vapor]

WHAT

I'm going to turn off encounters in Prairie then

[full bolt]

Vampire Kiwi felt pretty weak

But maybe because the old one that could one shot you and regen his entire life was an absolute beast ahah

He's way more balanced as he is now 😅

[iron bone]

don't you worry

there will be a 16ft vampire kiwi coming to a lohan competition arena near you.

[nova mulch]

reason number 1 to redo the entire game, remove the same of failing the very first double slash

[unreal vapor]

Finally at home, I can continue testing (I´ll have to fear Prairies?)

For a bit at least

[unreal vapor]

Vampire Kiwi´s not a threat

xD

I defeated it pretty easily

[north moss]

anyone experience the game not progressing after the dialogue of rose mentioning the dragon here?

hmm now i restarted the game and got to this point again but now neither rose nor the dragon are coming into frame. the game isnt fozen like locked up because i can see the smoke / cloudes in the air moving across the screen and the wind audio is playing

OH nvm

i use the turbo function on my controller to auto advance text in this game and the turbo button is the select button on my controller. seems pressing that button bricks this cutscene

[sweet wyvern]

Uh

@iron bone are you using the select button for something

[full bolt]

He is

For the achievement screen I believe

[sweet wyvern]

I don't think SC has anything bound to select by default so I assume it's a dramod thing

[sweet wyvern]

You can turn on quick text and auto text advance

[north moss]

ah ok

also the readme says press start to open dramod menu but its actually square

also.... how do i tell if i am on hard or hell lol

[full bolt]

You can only be in hell mode, the beta only feature this difficulty

[north moss]

ah ok

[unreal vapor]

Shana gains SP when she throw attack items

??

Like A LOT

50 SP per item throw

[iron bone]

sorry the pinned post correclty says square now

[sweet wyvern]

I would not be surprised if Zy did that for his queen

[unreal vapor]

Hahaha I want to know if it's a bug or intended

If it's intended now I understand the true power of the Queen Shana 🤣

[iron bone]

QUEEN SHANA OF MILLE SEASEAU REIGNS SUPREME

[unreal vapor]

Okay so it's intended

[iron bone]

It's also because her SP from her arrows in hell mode are low af at level 1/2.

[unreal vapor]

YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN SUCH THINGS 😂

[iron bone]

IT WAS IN THE VIDEO

[unreal vapor]

I noticed, thank you very much 🫠

[iron bone]

but is it in the readme? 🧐

[unreal vapor]

I didn't remember sorry, Dory's memory

[unreal vapor]

🤣 idk same as before

[tired orbit]

bro

it took rose 6 turns to fully charge

345/346 maxhp

that extra dragoon usage is very important for +1 damage

[unreal vapor]

I FOUND A BUG

Urobolus inmortality

[iron bone]

?

[unreal vapor]

I'm going to record

I can't beat him

[iron bone]

Her ultimate weapon fixes this but I am thinking of adding "lesser" ultimate weapons.

[tired orbit]

so uh

about wind barrier

doesnt turn meter already drop to 0 after lavbert gets attacked lol

[unreal vapor]

Watch

Urobolus is INMORTAL, like wtf

That´s unfair

[iron bone]

The second number is going down. You are damaging the shield.

[lean sentinel]

Just boss shield

[unreal vapor]

WTF

[tired orbit]

skill issue

[unreal vapor]

SHIELD??

[lean sentinel]

You can see it between ( )

[unreal vapor]

What´s that blasfemy

[lean sentinel]

In the HP bar

[visual crane]

Someone didn't read the read me again

[unreal vapor]

... for real

[unreal vapor]

I don´t remember, there are too many things in the read doc

[iron bone]

Not always. you can have a monster with 252 turn points or whatever, subtract 217, so it will have some left over.

[unreal vapor]

This time I have to admit that, well, cheating time

[iron bone]

But you are right and I agree with you Wind Barrier could use an adjustment.

[tired orbit]

wtb dramod throws a kernel error when f12 is pressed

[iron bone]

When I uploaded it on the Thursday morning at midnight I did have the debugger disabled.

Then like 10 minutes before the video was posted I removed it.

[sweet wyvern]

Opening the debugger triples all enemy HP

[iron bone]

💀

[visual crane]

Sounds like you have to work overtime

[iron bone]

why not go beyond that

pressing f12 triggers game over screen

[visual crane]

Only if you add a caption that points out cheaters get whats coming to them

[tired orbit]

attempting to modify battle adds that one ice sandora knight to battle at red hp with max turn meter

[pallid flame]

Opening gamestate editor bricks your device and transfers all the money in your bank account to Zy

[unreal vapor]

XD I'm about to put all characters at max level, I swear

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[iron bone]

well... as long as someone is playing without using the debugger

if i can do it y'all can do it.

[unreal vapor]

Nah that would not be fun
But Urobolus's defeated me, it's really strong

Like... Totally unfair

[pallid flame]

LoD players when Hell mode is Helling

[unreal vapor]

Shield is bullshit

[iron bone]

that magic is preparation

[lean sentinel]

I'm about to get to Urobolus without cheating at all, unless you consider grinding a couple additions before prairie cheating >:)

[iron bone]

the majority of bosses in disc 1 have had their HP lowered BECAUSE of the shield

[tired orbit]

got to lohan

[unreal vapor]

I think they play without debugger
Only me, because I don't have too much time or I don't want to suffer for a beta testing

[tired orbit]

like in hardmode virage 1 was underwhelming lol

got 2 shotted from

[pallid flame]

I lost to Firebird in Hard Mode🤣

[iron bone]

your saves will be transferrable to full release, it's why i actually played through the whole thing first to make sure everything was available.

[lean sentinel]

Tbh I was gonna play hard mode first, then hell mode, but now... full on HELL

[unreal vapor]

I don't know if I prefer more HP
But I can swear, it's unfair

I don't have enough healing

💔

[iron bone]

hmm fair fair i will add that hellena shop

it's the only locked zone where i don't give you a shop

[tired orbit]

farm those bats I think?

iirc they give healing potion

not sure

[unreal vapor]

I have three healing potions

[tired orbit]

💀

cooked

[unreal vapor]

And 5 Angel Prayer

I'm going to try again and, if I can't, I will cheat and move on

[tired orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/stonkseth-stonks-not-stonks-stonkstoken-eth-gif-10538970488193815988

[iron bone]

depends on what you want. a walk in a park with a few traps in the grass? that's hard mode.

want to play dark souls? hell mode

[iron bone]

halo of balance which gives 30/30 max hp/mp is 15k so these went up

[unreal vapor]

I never been a fan of dark souls 😔

[tired orbit]

but i like big chonky hp

[iron bone]

donb't worry hard mode will come. it's just that hell mode has every feature so.. might as well use that to test 😛

[iron bone]

don't need it till disc 4

it's there to farm if you want

people don't realize how OP the ooparts farm is

[lean sentinel]

I wanted to play LoD again (for the 15th or 16th time) with a challenge

Then try craziness in hellmode

But I'm happy to jump directly into hellmode, so great anyway

[iron bone]

i hope everything is decently hard except fruegel 2

[tired orbit]

does cant combat still work vs pets

[iron bone]

the choice : make fruegel 2 harder expecting people to use total vanishing

or have people grind to beat fruegel 2 by making him super hard, and needing to buff every boss after because of the grind

or break my rule and change the boss script for a story boss

[iron bone]

pets?

[tired orbit]

fruegel 2

[iron bone]

yeah it works

[unreal vapor]

Let him be pls

Now I'm going to fear Lenus 1...

[iron bone]

for the next update i am going to remove the total vanishing flag for the ultimate boss version as that is the first boss of many that you can use status effects on.

[unreal vapor]

You should add Hellena's shop too, pls

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, I WON WITHOUT CHEATING

Now I don't have Angel Prayers, or attack items, or healing... OMG
Totally insane

But add that shop for final release pls

[shrewd cypress]

Listen to my voice! XD

[unreal vapor]

It's needed

[unreal vapor]

Sorry 😔 I have ADHD, probably didn't catch all the important info 🥲

[shrewd cypress]

It's alright, just being funny.

[signal aspen]

The urobolos fight drained my inventory lol.

I feel like I crawled into Bale

Also it's a small thing and someone may have brought it up already but the start button being what brings up the menu very slightly conflicts with using the start button to pull up descriptions of things in the menu. It's not a big deal but it happens

[iron bone]

check the pinned messages and download the dramod v1.1 update. it's been changes to Square

[iron bone]

im adding bosses to stage 3 and 4 ultimate boss

[half kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mummy-imhotep-creepy-smile-gif-4226266739581769892

[naive sky]

This mod is hurting my feelings but man is it fun

[shrewd cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/babylon5-londo-gif-27642657

[signal aspen]

If I update will my save file carry over because I don't want to fight the snake again yet lol

[iron bone]

Yes the saves will carry over.

[signal aspen]

Oh thank God haha. It wasn't unnecessarily hard fight but I did not have a lot of items left over. I limped into Bale.

[nova mulch]

Yea... level 8 for Kongol was so much easier

[ionic sand]

Urobolus stole my lunch money. I'll have to go back for revenge on Sunday.

[shrewd cypress]

You got past Fruegel? Grats!

[signal aspen]

Tbh his wardens worried me more with the death fire magic

Ended up just guarding with Shana and lavitz and killing them with dart

[unreal vapor]

I know haha but just for clarify, I watched the video 😊

[unreal vapor]

I don't want to face that shit anymore 😂

[unreal vapor]

Amazing Zoss, we are (not really) ready to suffer

[lean sentinel]

Urobolus 2nd attempt, great fight, 0 items left. Thanks Zychronix, it reminded me of my first playthrough as a kid 😄

[unreal vapor]

Same hahah

[full bolt]

I had also 0 items

[unreal vapor]

The real Sandora Elite doesn´t have a shield xD

What´s this xD

Now the real is the one with less shield, wtf this battle

And now the real is the one who doesn´t have shield, this is mindblowing

Finally, all have same HP but I can clearly distinguish the big shadow beneath

I don´t fully understand Wind Barrier

Kongol 1 beated, the key is buy 5 Spear Frost

[tired orbit]

congrats, you get to enjoy marshlands pain now

[unreal vapor]

I´m doing the soldiers rush

xD

That comes first

Then Marshlands (I have fear)

[tired orbit]

I would recommend getting magic sig stone first

[unreal vapor]

For Villude? sure

To fight the soldiers I don´t need that, they´re easy

[tired orbit]

did you fight the soldiers

[unreal vapor]

I´m on it

[unreal vapor]

I did, that fucking Commander throwing stun items xD

Now on my way to Villude against Virage 1 (FEAR) and Firebird (I have Spear Frost for it)

Also Magic Stone ^^
I think I´m doing it just fine, now is the time for Rose to shine

[lean sentinel]

Instead of Dart? Or who?

[unreal vapor]

No no, Shana is the backup, she only shines against bosses

Dart Lavitz and Rose for random encounters

[lean sentinel]

I see I see

[unreal vapor]

For Virage you better switch off Rose, she´s weak to the light beam

Against Firebird Lavitz´s out

[tired orbit]

zy did absolutely not need to give lloyd 3192 hp

[unreal vapor]

HE DID WHAT

[tired orbit]

as if I dont know that lloyd lacks entrypoint 2

[lean sentinel]

I really like to see my Shana's HP at 108 constantly

No reason 🙂

[unreal vapor]

I don´t care, because I´ll cheat him with Talisman´s strat

I know everyone´s strat, I only needed a SHOP (now I hate Urobolus for that)

[iron bone]

but what if-

[tired orbit]

yeah if i get below 190 multiplier i lose

trust

[unreal vapor]

Just use auto item

[lean sentinel]

OMG Sandora elite oneshotting Lavitz with the red attack is savage

[unreal vapor]

Not in my playthrought

[lean sentinel]

230 dmg, Lavitz has around 220 hp

[unreal vapor]

Maybe I bought accesory to increase magic defense

[lean sentinel]

231 hp lavitz, sorry, but he had one attack in already and was at 220

That should be it, yup

[unreal vapor]

The good thing is that once the enemy drops to yellow, he almost stop throwing that nasty spell

[lean sentinel]

He didn't do it until red to me

And enrage made him do nasty things

[unreal vapor]

Then I had very good RNG

The only thing he did then was cloning

And throwing with the chain

Try to load a previous save file and buy the accesory for Lavitz

Sage´s ""something""

[lean sentinel]

I may do that if I can't kill him, thanks ^^

[unreal vapor]

Perfect, in theory you shouldn´t need that, but... just in case

I´m a bit cheater, I must admit xD I want to test it, not to truly suffer throught it, with the final version I´ll do a proper challenge, right know I don´t wanna

[lean sentinel]

Got him! Now... the real threat

Wish I could save 😄

[unreal vapor]

xD Kongol´s easier

Stay calm

[lean sentinel]

I'm trying to!

No addition missed, half hp

[tired orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-dont-care-peaceful-laid-back-zen-life-gif-11841640

[unreal vapor]

Anyway what´s the deal with "triton" or whatever is called, in Marshlands? it did 240 or something to Dart with an ice spell, my poor boy 🙁

[tired orbit]

my reaction with auto additions:

[tired orbit]

damn if only there was an item to block enemy moves for few turns

[lean sentinel]

I can't imagine playing LoD without doing additions

[unreal vapor]

That´s a god send, I´m using that to survive the challenge

[unreal vapor]

I forgot to use it ok xD

Don´t judge me

[unreal vapor]

It´s weird and takes the fun aspect but, it´s hard to master every addition, for next time I´ll do

[lean sentinel]

It's muscle memory for me at this point

I replay the game once a year at least hahaha

[unreal vapor]

I had muscle memory with the emulators

But with SC I simply can´t get the timming

[lean sentinel]

Oh, oh... enraged Kongol, no healing items left, red HP

Wish me luck

[unreal vapor]

For Sandora Elite and Kongol combined you need two healing breeze (one from Basil near Lavitz´s house and the other from drop) and 5 healing potions, also 3 or 4 Angel prayer, and 5 ice items

[lean sentinel]

Did it 😄

[unreal vapor]

Niiice, you´re the best ^^

[iron bone]

There's a cheese to sandora elite but I am not mentioning it.

[lean sentinel]

Sometimes I left it to fate with him

The shield/no shield thing was fine, but there were some turns where nothing worked, not even shadow

[tired orbit]

dropping it into half health in 2 turns and then obliterating him via shadow ✅

[unreal vapor]

Maybe I did the cheese strat without knowing?

[unreal vapor]

The shadow always worked for me

[lean sentinel]

What do you do when he clones + does red magic in a row? Hahahaha

That was what happened to me

[lean sentinel]

Maybe I forgot how to tell which shadow it was, because I always used the name trick

[tired orbit]

he has incredibly low chance of using magic on his clones lol

[lean sentinel]

Yay, I'm lucky!

[iron bone]

wait for sandora elite ultimate boss version debut

[tired orbit]

did you patch any story boss

[iron bone]

no

[tired orbit]

f

[iron bone]

i only have so many ideas and that all goes towards ultimate boss

[unreal vapor]

CRUEL

[unreal vapor]

The name trick only worked in spanish version as far as I recall (only played that and now this version)

[tired orbit]

wheres my fruegel that throws 3 rocks that also stun

[unreal vapor]

Let him alone pls

[lean sentinel]

Oh, didn't know that. I'm spanish, so... that explains things

[unreal vapor]

Me too haha I didn´t know you were spanish ^^

[iron bone]

im not that good at boss scripts yet

v.soon™

[unreal vapor]

@iron bone I want to know, how did you exactly beat your mod? you activated any autos? (like auto-addition, dragoon, items)... save anywhere? I´m just curious about it, also you disabled random encounters at any moment?

[tired orbit]

Astral Drain - Heals an additional amount based on Rose's Max HP (Rose Max HP * Dragoon Level * 0.0425) to the whole party. rip rose turtle strats

[iron bone]

the original hell mode+ i just played near perfect

[tired orbit]

Astral Drain - Heals an additional amount based on Rose's Max HP (Rose Max HP * Dragoon Level * 0.0425) to the whole party. rip rose turtle strats

fucking discord ty

[iron bone]

?

[tired orbit]

discord lag

[iron bone]

i forget the original amount but this isn't that much lower.

[tired orbit]

For this fight only, Rose can not heal more than 25% HP from Astral Drain.``` why zy

[lean sentinel]

Right before Marshlands. I love Yellow Birds ❤️

[unreal vapor]

WOW

I´m against Virage

[lean sentinel]

Good luck, that thing is scary

[unreal vapor]

I know haha I´m having a hard time against it

[uncut dagger]

I know the current build is made for Hell Mode only so far and I wasn't expecting this to work, but I was curious and wanted to try it anyway. I copied the file of the JP difficulty that are in the v2.0-HellMode-Beta-1 tag on github and I put it in the mod. It kind of work, I was able to see the difficulty and select it, but the Knight of Sandora at the beginnign of the game were dealing 0 dmg using their Throwing Dagger and 1 dmg using their Sword Slash, and the Commander was dealing 1 and 3 dmg after boosting with melee attack. However, Commander's Burn Out seams to be dealing the proper amount of dmg. Did the physical dmg formula changed for Dragoon Modifier? I compared the monster stats for both enemies with what they have in the version of Dragoon Modifier that work with the version 2.1 of Severed Chain and their AT are the same.

[unreal vapor]

I never needed to use Moon light so many times in my life OMG

[iron bone]

I have to fix the script but yeah.

[uncut dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

[iron bone]

No

[tired orbit]

is it? pretty sure melbu has infinite hp

[iron bone]

There is a reason why I haven't merged hell mode onto main branch yet it's because the CSVs are different.

[uncut dagger]

Yeah, I was expecting it not working, but I was still hoping. Oh well.

[unreal vapor]

... I´m not going to survive Fire Bird unless I backtrack to buy more potions, omg

I can barely survive Virage

[iron bone]

I had to do the same

disc 1 king of back tracking

[unreal vapor]

Virages´s killing me

Insane

[tired orbit]

give lavitz power wrist and special

does like 650ish or smth

[unreal vapor]

WTF really?

Should I focus the arm?

[uncut dagger]

Also, I don't know if someone said this already, but if you press square after the first cutscene of the game (when Rose appears and Feyrbrand is coming out of the forest), it will trigger an error and the game will freeze.

[tired orbit]

nah

that shit keeps getting shield

[unreal vapor]

Thanks, I´ll try again ^^ this time with Rose and Shana xD because when Virage starts with the beam spam... Lavitz insta dies

[unreal vapor]

I DID IT, bless be Ice Frost

Also ignoring the arm was a very good tip

OMG I suffered so much

[unreal vapor]

@iron bone you did a mistake with the name

Firebirb xD

[sweet wyvern]

I see no mistakes here

[unreal vapor]

Also it´s hard as hell, I´m going to stock up many Ice Frosts

[unreal vapor]

FIREBIRB, that´s the mistake xD

[sweet wyvern]

Looks right to me 😉

[lean sentinel]

It's a meme

[unreal vapor]

Oh xD I didn´t know

[lean sentinel]

I panicked

Pressed tab and everything went black

Had to press it twice again for the image to come back

[sweet wyvern]

Those are dev tools

[tired orbit]

firebird is way too tanky but theres kinda a cheese

@sweet wyvern any plans to experience the pain sometime

[cedar path]

I’m having trouble with Virage also, though I haven’t been able to play yet today to give it another go.

[unreal vapor]

@iron bone

Name´s out of the box in Status menu

[unreal vapor]

How?

[tired orbit]

it does not do jumping attack until its yellow

so, save your dragoons

[unreal vapor]

Oh

How many dragoon level do you recommend? 1 or 2?

[tired orbit]

uh

I think I was 2

1 with rose

[unreal vapor]

What about Spear frost spam?

Sometimes the spell animation is bugged

It happens from time to time

And before I played this mod, it never happened to me

[iron bone]

That spell animation is normal. I'm removing the white screen flash.

[sweet wyvern]

Maybe hard mode 😆

[unreal vapor]

Why do you want to remove white screen flash? without it, it does look weird, at least for me

[iron bone]

The script doesnt remove it when you use it through dragoon.

[tired orbit]

not sure if this is dramod or sc or retail, dart's heat blade does not damage fire spirit on the left, damages fire spirit on the right

lets go, doel vs ultimate power of gambling

[unreal vapor]

[tired orbit]

doel had no chance against gambling LOL

[unreal vapor]

What do you mean with gambling?

[tired orbit]

spirit cloaks on everyone that gives 20% MAV and angel's robe on rose

[unreal vapor]

You farmed to buy Spirit cloaks or something? xD

[tired orbit]

fire spirits drop spirit cloaks

[unreal vapor]

What xD

You know many things

[tired orbit]

that's my answer to zy who made spark net deal albert 2300 damage

[unreal vapor]

Good answer indeed

My answer is cheat

xD

[iron bone]

[unreal vapor]

Feybrand and Greham are insane too

The difficulty spike

[unreal vapor]

@sweet wyvern this is bugged, if you set this between 0 and 1, it reverts back to 0 or 1, dependant if the number is close to each one

I tried to put this at 0.25 but it resets to 0 for example

[silk ledge]

Question: Is the only way to get Shana's Elemental arrows is via drops and not shops?

[unreal vapor]

I believe her ultimate weapon gives her unlimited elemental arrows or something like that

[silk ledge]

Okay, I noticed that when using Rose''s "Dark Attack" spell as a Dragoon, when choosing an enemy, the games says "All Targets" but only one foe gets attacked.

[iron bone]

how are you level 7 already

something changed between the hell mode from 1 year ago because that wasn't the case i'll fix all of them in the next update

[austere bridge]

If you play at 1,600% speed, anything is possible

[silk ledge]

I used the debugger, Really wanted to play around with the new gimmicks you added that's all.

[tired orbit]

ok next boss is lenus

i'll grind to level 30

[iron bone]

if you have to go that far it's something far worse than a skill issue

[tired orbit]

fine i'll do 28

[silk ledge]

How the hell did Lavitz do 1029 damage to Jaingo with Dragoon Spinning Gale?!?!?

[iron bone]

because he's hot
if you show me your stats we can calc the damage to see if it is right

im unfortunately heading to sleep now

[unreal vapor]

@iron bone I give myself the max dragoon level too to reduce difficulty, the bosses hit like a truck

I don´t wanna suffer too much right know, so...

Also... what´s the difference between "element attack" and normal d-addition?

[austere bridge]

Checked SC, and both are immune so it must be something in Dramod

[tired orbit]

what in god's name is 18k hp holy fuck

https://tenor.com/view/scream-screaming-muppet-kermit-kermit-the-frog-meme-gif-9225198700279694876

[unreal vapor]

WHAT IS THAT