Dragoon Modifier | Legend of Dragoon | Page 2

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:04 PM

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yes

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they should do the same thing...

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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uh

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it enables all party members

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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i think you are mixing up the keys, one of them allows full party members

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the other just adds all dragoons

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 8:09 PM

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L1 + X give all dragoon spirit + all party members set lvl 1 with Dart starting equipment, right ?

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:09 PM

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yes, and that seems to be a problem

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:10 PM

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say what you want about my keyboard binds but i never mix up my buttons 😛

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ok i will just use the submap warp event and set it up one moment

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:11 PM

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lmao wtf is this sp distribution

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volcano first hit gives 1sp

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:11 PM

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🙂

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:11 PM

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should be -

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:11 PM

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TRUE

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negative SP until you do the final hit

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 8:12 PM

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You never tried old hell mod Icarus ?

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:12 PM

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nope

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 8:12 PM

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Oooh, nice

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:12 PM

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this my first time 💀

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is black bar the damage tracker

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or smth

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:13 PM

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dart burn stacks

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:13 PM

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o

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:13 PM

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uh

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it's supposed to be a 2d image rendered in the white rectangle of the characters

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but i uh... don't know how to do that yet with the new opengl stuff ...

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there no hotkeys needed now

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im uploading the attachment give me a moment

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and the equips and items are replaced now in the dart reading the paper map

sweet wyvern Jun 22, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Using NewGameEvent?

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You should do that for anything that's supposed to happen when a new game starts

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:18 PM

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yeah that's the problem newgameevent seemed to work for me like 80% of the time

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the other 20%...? idk

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like it worked for me but then Luplow it didn't work for

sweet wyvern Jun 22, 2024, 8:18 PM

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What are you doing in it?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:19 PM

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    event.gameState.items_2e9.add(REGISTRIES.items.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:i3").get());
    event.gameState.items_2e9.add(REGISTRIES.items.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:i11").get());
    event.gameState.items_2e9.add(REGISTRIES.items.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:i11").get());
    event.gameState.items_2e9.add(REGISTRIES.items.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:i11").get());
    event.gameState.items_2e9.add(REGISTRIES.items.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:i11").get());

    final Map<EquipmentSlot, Equipment> dart = event.gameState.charData_32c[0].equipment_14;
    dart.put(EquipmentSlot.WEAPON, REGISTRIES.equipment.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:e0").get());
    dart.put(EquipmentSlot.HELMET, REGISTRIES.equipment.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:e76").get());
    dart.put(EquipmentSlot.ARMOUR, REGISTRIES.equipment.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:e46").get());
    dart.put(EquipmentSlot.BOOTS, REGISTRIES.equipment.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:e93").get());
    dart.put(EquipmentSlot.ACCESSORY, REGISTRIES.equipment.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:e152").get());```

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and yes i am changing those ids... just not yet xd

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:20 PM

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changing it into hex! 🥳

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:22 PM

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im giving them proper names eventually but i need a translation layer between lod core and dra mod if i give them proper ids. for now it is just a quick fix to use ids since it's a 1:1 copy

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:23 PM

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hold tf

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where do i even restore mp

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:24 PM

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rock fireflies 🙂

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:24 PM

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theres none in hellena 😭

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smh i should not have one shotted commander

sweet wyvern Jun 22, 2024, 8:28 PM

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iron bone and yes i am changing those ids... just not yet xd

You're going to break everyone's saves when you change them

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That's why I said you should give them proper IDs

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:28 PM

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i'll convert it. once i have the translation layer there will be a save converter.

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 8:43 PM

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First issue. Game options. DM Enrage I set off but no effect in the next fight. after the fight is DM Enrage on by default. Same for elemental bomb.

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is it intended for hellmode or a issue?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:44 PM

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How to start #1197976055923888218 message
Known issues #1197976055923888218 message
Changes: forced dragoons on when you are in the starting map, forced equip conversion to dramod on the map where dart is reading the paper
it is not necessary to redownload if you are passed this point and you didn't have duplicated healing potions and burn out

📎 dramod-rb3-test.zip

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 8:44 PM

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what's changed

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:45 PM

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just the starting event stuff

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:45 PM

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last swift First issue. Game options. DM Enrage I set off but no effect in the next fight. ...

So the enrage mode didn't trigger in the battle but it was on AFTER battle?

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 8:54 PM

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trigger in the battle as well. I did less damage when enemy is yellow/red hp.

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:56 PM

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oh ok that's not an issue that's normal then

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it's locked to hell mode+ difficulty so it will always turn those two on.

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in normal hell mode you can turn them off

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 8:59 PM

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So just to be sure i'm playing the mod the way it is intended, should I still do the L1 + X until I got everybody lvl 1 with starting equipment ?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 8:59 PM

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you shouldn't be adding party members right away

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you don't have to press the hotkey anymore

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 8:59 PM

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Ok !

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 9:08 PM

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How to change to the normal Hellmode?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:10 PM

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you can't at the moment

rough tree Jun 22, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Woo! Cause of work, I’ll have to schedule a stream, next possible stream for me will be on Monday

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Persona 5 may show as on Monday on my YouTube, but I’ll change it when I got time today lol

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 9:14 PM

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Hmm, is it possible that getting 5 turn in a row against the sandoran soldiers is not a bug ? 😅

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:16 PM

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take the W

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im here currently

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 9:17 PM

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Btw, I tried using burn out to see the dmg, around 190 boost I only did 1 dmg, is Dart magic atk so low compared to their magic def ?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:18 PM

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burn out on which mob, what level is your dart?

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 9:18 PM

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Lvl 1 on the first sandoran

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:19 PM

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oh that kind of makes sense

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since it's a fire enemy

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 9:21 PM

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iron bone im here currently

i think i was overlevelled

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all 3 were 6

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:23 PM

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you can do it at 4, 5/6 is comfortable

rough tree Jun 22, 2024, 9:24 PM

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full bolt Lvl 1 on the first sandoran

Yea, never use an item with the same element on a enemy, it’s not worth it that much if their m def is the same as def, unless they’re magic def was really low or something

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Oh, would equipment balencing be a thing for all characters enabled soon @iron bone ?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:28 PM

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i mean i can add unlimited equips now so

rough tree Jun 22, 2024, 9:29 PM

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Ah, so custom early equipment? I adjusted my copy for them to use dart’s swords and stuff lol

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And make other things buyable from stores, like the merchant in Helena

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:30 PM

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yeah based on what icarus said i am going to add sun rhasphody to the shop it makes sense™️

rough tree Jun 22, 2024, 9:31 PM

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Too bad there’s no hotel in the beginning too

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:33 PM

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oh for all party members solo start?

rough tree Jun 22, 2024, 9:34 PM

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Yea and for just adding them in general

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:35 PM

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once i do the registry id translation layer you will be able to edit it freely

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i have 4 different datasets and they all need to be translated differently which is why i didn't do it yet.

rough tree Jun 22, 2024, 9:36 PM

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Nice, and all the characters were not added in the beginning in mind for hell mode+ right?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 9:39 PM

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yeah for now it is just hell mode+ testing

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i am hoping at least one other person reaches the moon so i can get better data to adjust the dragoon exp table

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i'm trying to play very efficently with no grinding like i did on the original hell mode so mine will be lower than usual.

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you can change the sp bar colors freely for any character now though 👀

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i have not picked the final colours for level 7 but i might just go rainbow

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 10:00 PM

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never played hellmode before so hell+ with enrage on is sick...

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how to activate Darts stacks in hellmode+?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Triangle + Square

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if the text descriptions don't change then it's a bug

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i haven't tried that one out yet

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also for all, fyi you can use Triangle + Circle outside of battle to level up your entire party based on the highest exp character until the highest exp in your party is 160000

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i'm going to look into the additions flying off screen thing tomorrow. i want to play it a bit more to make sure everything else is working.

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nerf the vampire kiwis holy shit lol

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 10:11 PM

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hardly beat the cave worm, had no heal items. save the game set to US go out the menu... shut down... try to reload shut down... savefile broken cuz I go out of the hellmode?

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iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:12 PM

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er yes

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copy everything in the hell mode to the us folder and change your save back to hell mode.

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i mentioned only the hell mode folder works

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 10:13 PM

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allright

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 10:15 PM

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iron bone nerf the vampire kiwis holy shit lol

oh yeah

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my hard mode playthrough was just

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"alright its prairie, its good that I have stocked charm potions"

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:16 PM

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i don't want to force you to use dragoon in normal battles this early but that's basically the only way you can kill them

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:16 PM

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The mantis once powered up feels like a boss too ahah

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:16 PM

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accidental sp grinding mobs

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:17 PM

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But yeah the kiwis are self healing a bit too much

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 10:17 PM

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So when activate stacks.. with triangle I´m in the menu to change the additions and looks like I cant avtivate the stacks.

sweet wyvern Jun 22, 2024, 10:18 PM

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@iron bone you may have forgot about the addition select menu?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:19 PM

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yes i forgot that was a thing we did on stream

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 10:19 PM

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with dragoon the kiwis allright, without it would be bloody hell haha

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:21 PM

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Enraged Ourobolos lvl 6 is something 😅

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 10:22 PM

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iron bone also for all, fyi you can use Triangle + Circle outside of battle to level up yo...

not work

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:23 PM

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It does for me

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Try doing circle then triangle

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 10:23 PM

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iron bone also for all, fyi you can use Triangle + Circle outside of battle to level up yo...

and here I thought I was cheating when I levelled lavitz and shana to dart's level via gamestate editor

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:24 PM

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last swift not work

it'll only work if the highest exp in your party if switched with another character would level them up

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:24 PM

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The pigmen are so bulky 😮

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:25 PM

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im adding back that 100% escape rate equip from japan demo

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😆

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:27 PM

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Maybe 8000 sp is not that high* ahah

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:27 PM

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i also want to give you sp for getting damaged too

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:28 PM

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Dart is already at 2k1 and i'm absolutly not ready to face Ourobolos

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:28 PM

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this is why i need this play test to adjust the original hell mode

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 10:29 PM

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battles pre-hoax are certainly shorter now

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urobolus was so fucking tanky

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idk how long that's gonna take now

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:31 PM

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Did someone manage to win the fight against the 2 pigmen and the green baloon ?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:31 PM

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and this is why i want to have the 100% escape equip item back

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chose the battles you want to fight in

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:32 PM

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Make sense

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:32 PM

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the real bosses are the normal encounters 👀

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:32 PM

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Ahah yes

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:32 PM

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in original hell mode you can't escape battles

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:32 PM

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Yes I was surprised we could here

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 10:34 PM

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uhh

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are special encounters changed

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:35 PM

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no i didn't change those mobs why

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 10:35 PM

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increase rainbow bird's hp to 15 so it dies in 3 sachets s7Shana

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:57 PM

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Ourobolos went down, lvl 7 is enough but damn he hit so hard when he's enraged

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Dart already have 3k4 SP 😅

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:58 PM

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my highest is 1.2k and i just finished urobolous

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if a mob there doesn't have charm potion i am going to add it there too.

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Really ? I don't even feel like i've been farming sp ahah

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 10:59 PM

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more people need to realized charm potion is op

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im skipping some battles since i let that happen now

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my volcano is 88/80 whops happened during urobolous fight so now i am on burning rush

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:00 PM

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You had enough healing items to beat him lvl 6 or were you already 7 ?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:00 PM

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7

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i used 2 angel's prayers and 1 healing potion

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Did Dart survive fruegel fight alone to get the xp ?

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I used to use this strat in old hell mode, is this still the way to go since we can make the team lvl up to match the highest lvl ?

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:01 PM

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yeah and yes

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:02 PM

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Make sense then ahah, i'll try doing that from now

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:02 PM

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the main trick was to turn on solo mode and go to a lower level mob area and then level sync

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:03 PM

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🤔

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:09 PM

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this glitch

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again

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what shop are you in

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:09 PM

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Weapon in Bale

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:09 PM

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i fixed this like 3 times why 😭

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 11:09 PM

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iron bone this is why i need this play test to adjust the original hell mode

I using all attack items. 1-2 round more I would be game over, it was very close. Now aiginst Elite.. Lavitz get more dmg from fireball than I can heal, no chance.

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lv7, so I´ve to grind now to 8 or even 9.. Elite wasn´t even yellow HP.

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:11 PM

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Well if you manage to finish every boss fight with only 1 character alive you don't have to grind that much (at least in the old hell mod)

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It seems the bug is also in the item shop 😅

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:13 PM

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last swift I using all attack items. 1-2 round more I would be game over, it was very close...

yes a lot of attacks in hell mode hit more than 50% of your HP. i think the main problem with the fight is that there is no knight shield equivalent for magic at this time.

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i wonder if the shops have an item count...?

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 11:14 PM

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Fireball is magic attack and I get the 2. knight shield in Bale armor shop. It´s not about the physical defense.

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:14 PM

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no what i am saying there is no +10 MDF equip

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i can make one and add one

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 11:15 PM

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yes Dart is fine with +10 deff, lavitz should get somehow the +10 mdf then it should works

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:18 PM

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oh

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the shops are actually working. my converter didn't work right

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:22 PM

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Yea clearly lvl 7 is not enough for the elite ahah

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:23 PM

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im level 8, im going to delevel myself to 7 and try it

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:23 PM

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lvl 7, Lavitz take 161 from the red spell and he has 231 hp

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Managed to get him to yellow but I don't see how you can survive when he clone himself

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 11:26 PM

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is rose storm nerfed

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:26 PM

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bale shops fixed

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 11:26 PM

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zy was talking about it

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or smth

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:27 PM

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tired orbit zy was talking about it

20 MP per turn, you can set it in gameplay settings

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you can set it to 5 turns and it'll use 100 mp

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 11:28 PM

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that sounds better than 3 turns for 20 mp

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dart is moon serenade/spirit potion slave anyway

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:28 PM

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imagine not making dart your main damage dealer

tired orbit Jun 22, 2024, 11:28 PM

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s2Kongol

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:29 PM

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But how

iron bone Jun 22, 2024, 11:45 PM

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skill issue

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but no i do agree 161 is a bit too much

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5 healing potions 2 angel's prayers

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could have got away with 4 but i messed up one of the shadow clones

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Yellow hp elite is even.easier
The original move 1-2 frames than his clones and.it never the one who make a turn after the splitt

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1-2 frames earlier*

full bolt Jun 22, 2024, 11:49 PM

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I'll retry lvl 7 tomorrow, gg !

last swift Jun 22, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Almost 2 AM here
Try it tmr again

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:33 AM

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why is the addition table different in RAM then the file its loaded from

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ok i solved the addition issue. im going to upload it to github. as well.

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:21 AM

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damn that github feed is instance

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How to start #1197976055923888218 message
Known issues #1197976055923888218 message
Changes: Hellena 1 shop now includes Sun Rhasphody. Bale Weapon Shop now includes Sage's Shield. Addition issue is now fixed.
You must download this new copy for the changes to be reflected.

📎 dramod-rb3-test.zip

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Thank you all for suffering today.

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@shrewd cypress requesting a PIN to #1197976055923888218 message please KeqHeart

shrewd cypress Jun 23, 2024, 3:30 AM

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You can't pin a message in your own topic? (o_0)

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done

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 8:05 AM

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Lvl 7 the elite can be done but Kongol lvl 8 is a nightmare

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I think it may be doable with a godlike rng tho

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 8:28 AM

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Ok, imo sage shield is not the way to go for Lavitz, you need a good rng with Elite so he dosn't spam too much the red spell tho, Kongol without having knight shield on Lavitz is really hard to sustain

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I managed to beat him lvl 9 but I think he's doable lvl 8, I just don't want to try for too long

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 9:24 AM

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The sage shield is very nice for virage

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 9:59 AM

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Uh, the game told me I unlocked blazing dynamo after a random encounter 🤔

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Maybe because I finished burning rush ? That still dosn't really make sense to me tho

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Same for Lavitz after finishing Harpoon (I changed addition mid battle if that change anything)

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I just had a crash against Drake when Lavitz used his dragoon magic

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 10:28 AM

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Game speed causes crashes rn

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if you're using dragoon magic lower it to 1

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 10:31 AM

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Oh ok, didn't have this issue before but thanks 👌

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 11:07 AM

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Dart is Dlvl 2 after Drake, Dart has 8k5, Lavitz 4k2 and Rose 2k4

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Just saw this

last swift Jun 23, 2024, 11:29 AM

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Son of a Minio... I beat him! (lv 8)

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lavitz lv9*

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8 instead of 10 intended?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 11:53 AM

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Yes 8 is correct here.

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I think in the orginal orginal hard mode i made it so you can use Lavitz or Shana there so I am going to add that.

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 11:58 AM

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full bolt Uh, the game told me I unlocked blazing dynamo after a random encounter 🤔

HMM

last swift Jun 23, 2024, 12:02 PM

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after lavitz 80th spinning cane the message flower storm popup as well.

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:03 PM

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im sure it's just dramod issue. i tested the change in SC.

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or one of my new changes to SC let me check

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:22 PM

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BTW I tried something and it seems that if I enter special, the 2 dragoon who started their turn already transformed gained 150 dxp at the end of the fight, wasn't it intended to only works dlvl 2? That's maybe why I have that many SP on Dart since he's never the one who start the special

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Well if you don't special it only starts working at level 2. You only need to start your turn in Dragoon form.

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:25 PM

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It does make sense but I didn't think about it before having Haschel gaining so many SP while his first additions are pretty bad on that side

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🇫 for s8Lavitz

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This screen made me realise I didn't even used circle + triangle after Jiango 😮

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Jiango was kinda hard due to his confusion but except him, everything after Kongol is easy with the circle + triangle strat

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:39 PM

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I wonder how long that will last 😛

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:40 PM

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Until Doel if I remember ahah

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In the forest everytime I have a battle the game crash with this error

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Tried on the first and the second screen

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:42 PM

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can you send me your save file?

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:42 PM

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I guess that would be this

📎 save_30.dsav

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:44 PM

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oh... albert is bugged i think

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this is why i wanted to play through disc 1

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:45 PM

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iron bone oh... albert is bugged i think

Rip the best character of the game...

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:45 PM

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just revive lavitz ./s

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:46 PM

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Should I keep playing just without Albert in the team ?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:48 PM

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uh i have a fix already one moment

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 12:49 PM

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Ok, thanks 👌

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 12:51 PM

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https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST
i will upload them here now. here you go.

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 1:21 PM

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Well.

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Kongol 2 has 4500 HP, Albert hit him for 2200 in special

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Twister glaive is OP as always ahah

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:30 PM

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He is the literally king 👑

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:31 PM

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do i need to start another campaign after i swap to new mod

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:33 PM

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So with item registries... you can't swap to another mod if the equips aren't the same.

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:33 PM

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i mean

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new hell mode build

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for fixes

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:34 PM

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oh no you can continue playing

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 1:40 PM

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Doel hit kinda hard (he can one shot Haschel) but he dosn't have a lot of HP so it's pretty fast to kill him even with low Dlvl. Albert has all his additions lvl 5, when will he get flower storm, iirc it's at a set lvl right ?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:46 PM

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sounds like another bug one moment

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:49 PM

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i killed fruegel after yesterday's crash now and got flower storm unlocked message ruff

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i wish

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it wasnt unlocked

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i also forgot to equip leather jacket on shana smh

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 1:50 PM

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You had flower storm pop up after finishing lvling spinning cane ?

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:51 PM

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i have 2 additions unlocked though

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 1:51 PM

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You don't have flower storm dw

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You'll maybe have the same pop up for blazing dynamo

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:52 PM

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why is there so many bugs i copy pasted the code from a year ago LOL

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well it's not my build of SC so it's something wrong with the dramod data again probably

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@full bolt send me your save again

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:55 PM

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also you added sun rhapsody to first shop in hellena?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:55 PM

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tired orbit also you added sun rhapsody to first shop in hellena?

yes

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 1:55 PM

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The one at the forest or the latest ?

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:55 PM

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its not in second shop

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:55 PM

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tired orbit its not in second shop

first time hellena shop not second, run back to town ./s

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:56 PM

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full bolt The one at the forest or the latest ?

latest

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 1:56 PM

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Ok

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📎 save_37.dsav

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 1:58 PM

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finished prairie. ran away from every single encounter!

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 1:59 PM

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right im going to have to use uh not exact file/ram dumps anymore

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level 255 can be a real thing now so it's considering that

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:02 PM

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My game crashed in battle on the screen before returning to the world map on 2 different battle

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1st

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2nd

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It seems to crash everytime Dart act so maybe it's related to his dragoon spirit missing ?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:04 PM

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the spbar code?

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Should I use L1 + X ?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:04 PM

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oh

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i think it's a different hotkey one moment

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Nah it's the same I have the spirit now

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Gonna try !

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It dosn't crash anymore

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:05 PM

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big brain me using same hotkey

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ok i will fix that with the addition thing but i need some time to eat LOL

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 2:05 PM

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does using gamestate editor to set additions level 5 screw anything

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too lazy to grind those tmtrademark

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:06 PM

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Take your time don't worry about me ahah

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:06 PM

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it shouldn't in theory

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:06 PM

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tired orbit too lazy to grind those <:tmtrademark:1171192450711298059>

You could play with automatic addition and speed up 👀

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:08 PM

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and i mean yeah the original hell mode had a mob encounter where you could farm additions so. when i say you don't need to grind in hell mode... well you might.

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 2:11 PM

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hold up what

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i didnt even notice this

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:11 PM

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you pressed to hotkey for solo character start xd

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:12 PM

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It's ok the short bow has only 1 more atk ahah

tired orbit Jun 23, 2024, 2:12 PM

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literally unplayable

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lavitz is also using dart's stuff

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 2:13 PM

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F

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Hack their stuff in your inventory ?

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Same bug with omni-sweep when finishing lvling summon 4 gods

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 2:28 PM

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yeah i nmeed to rewrite the addition unlock code

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it only works for Dart at the moment

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 3:25 PM

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ok.... now with dramod...

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ok i literally just forgot to press save

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@full bolt and everyone please download the new copy
https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST

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if it doesn't unlock after one battle just go into gamestate editor and set the addition level to 1.

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i forget if the unlock is when the addition levels up to max or if it just checks > 80 on all additions

last swift Jun 23, 2024, 3:58 PM

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I didn´t figure out how triangle+circle works. Just on every field and then every party member should have the same exp like the highest charakter or what is the purpose?

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I´ve seen any effect yet. I´m on Marshland

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 4:05 PM

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You have to use the hotkey outside of battle and you will see the party's level go up. If you have Shana at 2000 exp and Dart at 500 exp. Dart will level up as if he had 2000 exp.

last swift Jun 23, 2024, 4:14 PM

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Got it know. Everyone is now lv 10

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Lavitz wing blaster vs 1. virage crash

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 4:31 PM

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Lower the game speed when using dragoon spells.

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 4:41 PM

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I know why Dart is so high in SP

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When you finish the battle dead you don't seem to win dlvl xp

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It's different from the base game, isn't it ? 🤔

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 4:45 PM

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no base game is like that too

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 4:45 PM

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Is it possible to change this ?

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Theorically I mean

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 4:48 PM

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Yes.

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 7:39 PM

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It seems like the glitch still exist

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But now it unlock the next addition instead of only the pop up

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Same for Haschel

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Dexp after Lenus :
She wasn't a threat at all, Dart hit way too hard with 3 Dlvl here i'm kinda surprised to be honest, when you showed us that we'd need 8k/lvl I thought it would be a lot but quite the opposite 😅

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I'll stop for today

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btw i'm not really sure how Thunder Charge works but I don't think I saw anything for now

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 9:46 PM

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Yeah I'm not even sure what the heck is this loadaddition trying to do anyways.

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i'm not sure how hard you are grinding. i was level 25 at grand jewel.

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thunder charge you have to do a thunder element attack so you have to use haschel, or thunder items, (or shana with elemental arrow when ultimate boss is out)

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 9:48 PM

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I'm not grinding at all ahah, starting from Ourobolos, Dart was the only survivor of every boss encounter, that is all

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 9:49 PM

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time to make it harder then

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 9:49 PM

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Honestly I think it could yea 😅

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Like Jiango was hard but since him every boss has been easy

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 10:01 PM

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iron bone thunder charge you have to do a thunder element attack so you have to use hasche...

Thunder charge stacks should appear like burn stack for Dart ?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:02 PM

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full bolt Thunder charge stacks should appear like burn stack for Dart ?

like wind marks for lavitz/albert

full bolt Jun 23, 2024, 10:04 PM

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I'll try that tomorrow !

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Do you want to give a bonus effet to every character ?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:11 PM

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Yes.

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Ok I fixed the battlehud crash. damn arraylists.

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When you have Dragoon / No Dragoon / Dragoon it'll crash.

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I'm moving on to recoding the addition unlock thing since it's.... something. I am confused how it works because it doesn't even check the previous additions.

pallid flame Jun 23, 2024, 10:20 PM

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Does running away not work in hard mode?

sweet wyvern Jun 23, 2024, 10:21 PM

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iron bone When you have Dragoon / No Dragoon / Dragoon it'll crash.

Is this an SC issue?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:23 PM

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full bolt Do you want to give a bonus effet to every character ?

So Dart Burn Stacks. OP.
Lavitz/Albert slowing down the enemy by a few turns over time is nice. Gets another new feature for Ultimate Boss.
Shana, gets her Elemental Arrow for Ultimate might do something earlier.
Rose, probably going to give her Max HP over time that decays like her level from the Dragon Campaign.
Haschel, as Dart's grandfather (probably), gets a thunder version of Burn Stacks. Giga OP.
Meru will probably have higher max MP and have damage reduction via using MP. (that you probably can't turn off since giving meru higher MP is just going to make her more busted at dragoon level 5)
Kongol, I want him to have a party wide shield, since it'll be hard to make him tank (rb4 eventuall™️)

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:24 PM

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sweet wyvern Is this an SC issue?

well my PR of SC problem.

sweet wyvern Jun 23, 2024, 10:24 PM

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Okay, was going to ask you to PR it separately if it was a current bug

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:24 PM

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I don't know how additions unlocking isn't a problem, or maybe it is

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I haven't checked main yet but I haven't touched the addition unlock code and it's wonky.

sweet wyvern Jun 23, 2024, 10:26 PM

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What's the problem?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:26 PM

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it's unlocking the final addition early

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but i'm confused it only happens in dramod when the event is triggered

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but the event in dramod has the same value as running SC by itself

sweet wyvern Jun 23, 2024, 10:28 PM

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When does it unlock?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:29 PM

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it's supposed to unlock if every addition before it is level 5 and has 80 exp but like SC doesn't check that so like what

sweet wyvern Jun 23, 2024, 10:29 PM

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Yeah I know that but when is it unlocking with dramod?

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:30 PM

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when you unlock a new addition

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like if lavitz unlocks gust of wind dance, he'll also unlock flower storm at the same time

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i had the final addition level set to 255 so it wasn't unlocking, i set it to -1 like in SC and it still borks

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nvm it's worse than i thought lol

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i think it's something to do with the addition offsets i'll figure it out

sweet wyvern Jun 23, 2024, 10:33 PM

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That's definitely not happening on main

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Why in the hell is addition levelup triggered by a script

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The code is dumb but here it is

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It checks level

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 10:38 PM

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oh nvm i had weird code because it was trying to fix it. it looks like it's working for dart but not anyone else

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oh i don't know why i couldn't find it

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i was looking at loadadditions lol because that's what hit in postbattlescreen

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thank you!

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wait i did change this. i must have been drunk.

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 11:12 PM

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giga confusion. the two runs are different between SC and when it runs in DraMod

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even though i am doing the same thing

iron bone Jun 23, 2024, 11:39 PM

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well... the method i added to coremod... and this one are doing the same thing.

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at least i can make progress here unlike playing maplestory

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https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST
Please download the latest copy.
Kongol I has lesser magic defense.
Fixed battle crashing when someone doesn't have a dragoon.
Fixed addition unlocking being derpy.

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I'm probably not changing hell mode normal monsters, but the bosses will get buffed with all the character enhancements that have happened since the original hell mode.

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 12:09 AM

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lv16 Doel, game over red HP 1 hit 2 charakter, expect the one with the legend helm.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 12:10 AM

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how... did you get legend casque? did you hack it in

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 12:10 AM

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it was in lohan by default

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 12:10 AM

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oh did i yote the hell mode shop changes by accident

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you're not supposed to have it like at all until the moon

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 12:11 AM

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is the dragon helm instead in lohan like in hardmode?

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 12:11 AM

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yes

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 12:13 AM

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ok I´ll download the fix tmr/next days and didn´t use legend casque so far.

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gn8

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 12:14 AM

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thank you, night

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 1:11 AM

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yep i yote it by mistake i don't know why i didn't just use excel to convert it

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 1:34 AM

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So Bandit's shoes was +50% escape rate in Japan Demo.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 1:44 AM

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iron bone <https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v...

Please download again. https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST
All the hell mode prices have been adjusted and the shops are back to normal hell mode.
Thief's Shoes is now in the Bale shop for +50% escape rate just like in Japan Demo (but it was Bandit's Shoes that did that but that was repurposed)

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Is Hellmode exp curve designed to pass bossfight with all charakter, with 1 charakter or something from both? just curios.

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with the circle+triangle hotkey of course it´s easier that 1 char get the boss exp and the hotkey works till 160k exp it´s round about lv ~45?

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cuz at lv 16 against Doel without Dragon Helm in red HP he 1 hit me with full HP. I felt lost but with the 50% more exp from dragon helm it makes more sense.

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at what point I can take the savepoint cuz before the eq and items in the shop was wrong. I save always before every next bossfight.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 12:34 PM

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I honestly don't remember if I entirely did 1 character surviving every other boss or all bosses. I have my original memory card with hell mode, although it doesn't tell the complete story I was level 16 at Doel and beat it.

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The switch exp thing was added so you can swap your party around. The level sync is brand new and is just an easier version of switch exp.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 12:43 PM

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last swift cuz at lv 16 against Doel without Dragon Helm in red HP he 1 hit me with full HP...

he'll basically one shot anyone with spark net in red which is what gave me the idea for haschel.

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 12:46 PM

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I´ll try it same level 16 with the purposed hellmode eq.

Dart, Albert Rose Dlv 2.
Haschel additions rather weak and long grind to dlv2

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 12:55 PM

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last swift with the circle+triangle hotkey of course it´s easier that 1 char get the boss e...

Anyway by the point where you wont be able to use the hotkey, you'll have access to the fake faust to farm xp

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 1:02 PM

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General it´s a decision new character in team means long Dlv grind. When get Kongol the start team is easily dlv 3 but Kongol/Meru need the same 8k to dlv2. For balance I think as later a character come in team as less Dexp should be needed to keep up with the others. at least until the bossfight are so scripted that a flexibel team with no crash.

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for Dlv grind the spirit charm 30sp/turn is nice.

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 1:04 PM

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Honestly i'm fine not getting Dlvl 5 by the end of the game, it's too risky to stay that long in dragoon if we can't use items 😅

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But yeah, I think it would be funnier and more interesting to balance the game so that we're not forced to farm hours between bosses if we don't finish bosses with only one character alive (often Dart since the others join later or miss fights) or if it is possible force the experience to not be shared and go on the first character of the team (Dart if we can't move him out of the team)

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But I know that in late game anyway the bosses are way harder. The old dragoons and the ultimate bosses are no joke so even if right now I don't have much difficulty I know it wont be for the whole game

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 1:18 PM

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in the original hell mode you were bouncing between dragoon levels 1-4 the entire playthrough. so i am not sure how that affected the stat increase formula i was using.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 1:18 PM

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full bolt Honestly i'm fine not getting Dlvl 5 by the end of the game, it's too risky to s...

you know you can exit out of dragoon early by press l1 up/right/left

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 1:18 PM

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btw

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does rose still heal 25% max hp

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 1:21 PM

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iron bone you know you can exit out of dragoon early by press l1 up/right/left

Well I do now ahah

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 1:36 PM

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tired orbit does rose still heal 25% max hp

rose heals the party with astral drain based on her dragoon level, there is no visual effect
rose heals herself when using dark dragon based on damage

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 1:49 PM

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oh yeah

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dark dragon bad

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:35 PM

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I crashed when I used recovery ball

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iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:42 PM

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thonk

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Never seen something like that happen before

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:42 PM

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does the same thing happen with attack ball?

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:42 PM

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I can try again in a few minutes

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Did you change those?

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Just need to get to the point where I get them

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:43 PM

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well dramod replaces recovery ball and attack ball but it's still points to the same DEFF script unless I got the ID wrong like with healing potion.

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Throwed an attack ball, the game does nothing

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Like the projectile go on the monster then nothing appear

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:43 PM

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game soft locks or continues?

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:44 PM

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Soft locks, monsters and character still move but the game wont let me do anything

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:45 PM

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to the script mines i go

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:45 PM

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If this change anything, it was a 1 target spell for the attack ball

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:45 PM

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full bolt

What the fuck

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 2:46 PM

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The script loaded an inline param from another script, but the other script it was referencing wasn't loaded into the slot it expected

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:46 PM

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I know

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 2:46 PM

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99% sure that's what happened

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:47 PM

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That's camera controller, it's a script that I REFUSE to look into

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:47 PM

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I'm stuck 😅

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sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 2:47 PM

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We should put a null check in the creation of the param so that it fails as soon as it's referenced instead of when it's used

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:47 PM

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@iron bone does dramod do anything related to camera

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

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no 🙂

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

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Ruff

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

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The submap debugger is a blessing 🙏

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

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uh i will check if that happens on main during my lunch break

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

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full bolt

Can you tell me which fight, location this happened on

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:49 PM

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Prison island I don't remember the fight exactly but it was on the map I screened just before

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:49 PM

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4374

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:49 PM

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It seems to happens everytime, I tried 2 times with both attack and recovery balls

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:49 PM

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I wonder which item DEFF it is

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:51 PM

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well this could be the wrong DEFF

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:51 PM

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does dramod change balls

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:51 PM

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no but it has to point to the approrpriate DEFF script

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:52 PM

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and here you got me excited for nothing smh my head

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shame

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 2:52 PM

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like healing potion you would think is in 4329/4330
but no it's actually 4385/4386

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maybe it's the same for attack ball and recovery ball

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they use the healing fog script and the effect changes on the percentage

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:53 PM

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I have a healing fog, should I try to see if this make the game crash too ?

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 2:54 PM

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i highly doubt that'll crash

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 2:55 PM

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It does not crash indeed

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Prison island is just full of recovery/attack balls 😮

tired orbit Jun 24, 2024, 3:06 PM

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balls

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:16 PM

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Here is my Dexp after Lenus 2. I did a little bit of sp farming for Meru on the ghost ship (like 2k5~ so she would get her Dlvl 2)

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:33 PM

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Those are the weapon you were talking month ago Zychronix no ?

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 3:48 PM

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No these are old weapons.

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These are the pre-ultimate boss end game weapons which is why they are so expensive.

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:53 PM

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So i'm not really supposed to buy them now, right ?

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 3:54 PM

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No you can buy them whenever.

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:54 PM

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I meant use them right now

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Yes.

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Ok, thanks 👌

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 3:56 PM

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Also I really must not have use the switch exp bug because you are eclipsing my levels on my original saves.

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Was Lenus 1 even hard?

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:57 PM

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Not at all, If I wasn't trying to let Meru and Haschel die before I killed her, Dart could have 3 hit her

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 3:57 PM

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That's the complaint I get the most but half the time it is "well you went dragoon right away".

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 3:57 PM

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Special + heat blade + burn stack is kinda OP 😅

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 3:58 PM

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hmm yes burn stacks was adding during the ultimate boss expansion

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not during the normal hell mode playthrough

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 4:00 PM

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The problem IMO is that if you're not using the 1 character alive it's really tedious to farm xp if a boss is too hard since the monsters give almost nothing

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:11 PM

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ThonkSpin

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 4:13 PM

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You should merge main so everyone gets rumble

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:13 PM

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additions are maxing faster so i wonder if 2x exp for normal mobs will solve that.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:14 PM

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sweet wyvern You should merge main so everyone gets rumble

ah yes i will merge with main again now that github fixed their stupid sync fork button

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 4:15 PM

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What was wrong with it?

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:15 PM

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before when you clicked sync fork it would remove all of your commits on your fork

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 4:15 PM

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wat

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:16 PM

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yeah so it was just doing git reset, git rebase i guess

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now it does it properly so i don't have to worry about the commands LOL

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well it broke running in SCDK but it works outside LOL

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my xbox controller has joycon drift and that explains so much, thanks LoD.

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oh it's not loading the new library?

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 4:27 PM

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Did you refresh gradle

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:28 PM

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yes, when i ran the my PR in intellij i get rumble, when i publish to maven local it's not there.

sweet wyvern Jun 24, 2024, 4:28 PM

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Also SC has deadzone config so just adjust that to fix your drift

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:29 PM

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i love DB1 maven and gradle DB2

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 4:30 PM

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iron bone additions are maxing faster so i wonder if 2x exp for normal mobs will solve tha...

I think that would be really nice

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 4:37 PM

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First time install <#1197976055923888218 message>

Known issues
<#1197976055923888218 message>

If you are updated with the hell mode builds please re-downloaded the latest severed chains build https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/Severed-Chains/releases and dramod https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST

for rumble support.

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 5:35 PM

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iron bone additions are maxing faster so i wonder if 2x exp for normal mobs will solve tha...

a optional normal mobs multiplier 2-3x would be okay I guess. cuz before I just went to the broken hardmode + hell bosses. the mobs are 1 hit so I grind with just 1 char solo it´s like 3x exp.

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then it is less interesting to approach the boss fight on purpose so that only 1 character survives

full bolt Jun 24, 2024, 5:40 PM

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I agree

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 5:45 PM

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some normal sure wins I lost cuz I try that just last Dragoon standing. normal mobs less exp in retail or hardmode is okay but in hell it takes extra time every fight especially when there is no free healing point.

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hm I can´t start the game? just copy paste the new update

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my bad, just see new dev build as well.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 6:24 PM

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dramod even on emulators always allowed you to to go into solo mode and get the 3x exp. it gives you a reason to back track. i can be evil and nerf the formula. so you can't use exp exploit.

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 6:56 PM

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untold zealot Jun 24, 2024, 7:10 PM

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What all am I allowed to use in a playthrough from severed chains qol fixes to party options?

I know u only want 32 items.

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 7:12 PM

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well only 32 items until disc 4, where you can get 36 items at the start of that disc 😛

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i mean severed chains has implemented 95% of the qol in original dramod but yeah basically

last swift Jun 24, 2024, 7:59 PM

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expand the item back as reward for optional task/boss, just a idea.

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*item bag

iron bone Jun 24, 2024, 8:00 PM

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yes through ultimate boss you can increase the bag up to 64 slots.

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 12:11 AM

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i love this

sweet wyvern Jun 25, 2024, 12:34 AM

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Please tell me you broke that texture

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 1:13 AM

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I 100% broke the texture and it 100% isn't a texture race condition from playing at 5x.

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Also after playing myself I 100% did not use the full exp swap for balancing hell mode.

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 2:11 AM

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Todo list (so i don't have to go back to the archive)

Remove EXP Exploit (for bosses at least)
All bosses will grant 50% EXP per party member
1 party member alive? Reduce EXP by 50%.
2 party members alive? Leave EXP the same.
3 party members alive? Increase EXP by 50%.
Looking at how far Luplow got and my previous Hell Mode run it seems that at the end of disc 2 ended up in similar sp situations despite the major level difference here.
it seems i already did the following but forgot compared to the original hell mode. and i nerfed these because i was considering always keep enrage mode on for hell mode but now i was considering not doing it so i have to pick one

Ghost Commander (considering nerfing)
Virage 2  (considering nerfing)
Grand Jewel (HP mega nerfed due to always on enrage)
Grand Jewel hp (and total effective hp) without enrage in hell mode: 27000 / 35100
Grand Jewel max total effective hp with enrage (hell mode+) 27000 / 53000
New Grand Jewel max total effective (now just normal hell mode) hp 21000 / 42000```

4) I just realized I can do achievements... so I will do that while I test the new SC branch. 

5) also i was considering doing these last time and i already implemented one of them
```Set a hotkey to "remember" the last shop you visited and open it anywhere. I wish this was a quest of some sort but maybe lock it behind something?
Once chapter 1 is complete, go back to hero competition for solo battles for characters to gain 4000-8000 dragoon exp
Once chapter 2 is complete, characters will gain 50-100 total SP (the battle accumulated total) for each turn started in dragoon form.
Once chapter 3 is complete, ultimate boss unlocks. 
add some new equips to zone 1 bosses to make sp easier.
auto charm potion
moon light is 20mp above dlv 2```

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 2:42 AM

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Sound great 👍

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 7:15 AM

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Kamuy was hard, he could one shot Haschel with his aoe magic attack 2400 hp when he had 20xx, he could also one shot Meru with his physic attack, I think he would be way too hard without the exp exploit since he can also stun the whole party. At least before going to Deningrad
When did you intend us to fight him ?

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I could probably have made him easier by using a frozen jet tho

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 8:33 AM

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No surprise but with exp exploit, grand jewel was a joke, Albert did more than 1/3 of his max HP in 1 hit (special + twister glaive)

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But well, I'm lvl 34 and you said you were 25 so it's understandable why i'm getting no problem

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 10:11 AM

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I think it wouldbe more interesting to nerf some bosses a bit and keep the enrage mode always activated

tired orbit Jun 25, 2024, 10:22 AM

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full bolt Kamuy was hard, he could one shot Haschel with his aoe magic attack 2400 hp when...

dw im currently at bale i will definitely soon catch up

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 10:47 AM

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BTW i'm having a weird problem

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With the dramod here : #1197976055923888218 message
my controller dosn't work anymore

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If I use the one before, he work just fine

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 10:52 AM

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tired orbit dw im currently at bale i will definitely soon catch up

I'm rushing because starting from next week I wont have much time until mid august 😅

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 11:08 AM

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full bolt Kamuy was hard, he could one shot Haschel with his aoe magic attack 2400 hp when...

basically any optional side quest is at a higher level

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 11:10 AM

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full bolt With the dramod here : https://discord.com/channels/307164262063669248/119797605...

Does the same thing happen when you don't run dramod with severed chains (delete the dragoon-modifier.jar in /mods)

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 11:12 AM

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Yes

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So it would be related to the last severed chains build and not dramod then right ?

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 11:13 AM

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i believe so, none of the changes i made to sc touch the controller and there is a new controller library

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 11:14 AM

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But it works just fine with the last severed chains build and this dramod #1197976055923888218 message

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I don't understand ahah

sweet wyvern Jun 25, 2024, 12:14 PM

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@full bolt did you go into the options menu and make sure your controller is selected

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 12:14 PM

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I'll try that

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Weeeelll

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Thanks a lot ahah

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I didn't know it was needed 😅

sweet wyvern Jun 25, 2024, 12:17 PM

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I rewrote the controller code in this build

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 2:47 PM

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Do you see a weird color or it's just me ?

sweet wyvern Jun 25, 2024, 2:51 PM

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Looks like the lighting is off, pretty sure I know the reason

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 3:04 PM

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Zychronix, did you try thunder charges on your side ? Maybe i'm doing something wrong but I don't see any effect on my side

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I never saw the counter under Haschel get something, even if I use dragoon magic

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Dxp after divine dragon, they all have maxed final addition so it will be pretty quick now

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 3:21 PM

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haschel has a 50% to gain thunder charge when
item magic is used
thunder dragoon magic is used
thunder physical attacks

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 3:30 PM

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I thought it was 50% on physical and 100% on magic, mb

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I guess i'm just really unlucky then

tired orbit Jun 25, 2024, 3:31 PM

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iron bone haschel has a 50% to gain thunder charge when item magic is used thunder dragoon...

is this the ultimate boss

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 3:53 PM

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berserker mouse calls in a virage to laser beam the team and then it transforms into a 16 ft mouse and jumps on the team like vector

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 4:07 PM

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That might hurt him a lot 😮

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 4:12 PM

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the wendigo:

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Waow, Lloyd AOE is no joke (I believe he use this exact same spell just before dying ?) They all were full life

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I guess you have time to defend tho

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Fighting him with a talisman is stupid ahah

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 4:23 PM

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yeah the ultimate boss version does not allow talisman.

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 4:23 PM

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His ultimate version is #3 or #4 ?

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 4:23 PM

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he is in zone 4 so he is a level 60 boss.

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Ok 👌

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So I never tried him

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 4:24 PM

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i need to figure how i am doing the level syncing if it is just HP and Level that gets reduced or all stats

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before i enable it

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 4:55 PM

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Meru is starting to do some nice damages 👀

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 4:59 PM

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Dead combatants being attacked by enemies, known bug?

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 5:00 PM

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untold zealot Dead combatants being attacked by enemies, known bug?

who what when where KEK

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 5:01 PM

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don't have video yet
but Dart died to the Commander, and then a Soldier attacked Dart
no errors/warnings in console

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 5:01 PM

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Maybe because you're not supposed to have more than 1 character here ?

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 5:02 PM

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they are just making sure Dart is extra dead before moving on towards the others.

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uh i haven't seen that even on emulator

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maybe i'll try there first

austere bridge Jun 25, 2024, 5:26 PM

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untold zealot don't have video yet but Dart died to the Commander, and then a Soldier attacked...

Not sure if this is helpful, but this can also happen in plain SC if a party member's HP is set to 0 using the debugger, as even with 0 HP the character doesn't flop down until attacked, and for some reason remains attackable afterwards for awhile

sweet wyvern Jun 25, 2024, 5:28 PM

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There's a flag on the player script that marks it as dead

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0 HP is not a death state

tired orbit Jun 25, 2024, 5:35 PM

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should be 0x40 on s7

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actually it might be 0x2

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 5:44 PM

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also had a similar issue a long time ago where Lavitz died to poison, all characters were dead but on the same turn, Greham or the Dragon got to attack Lavitz again...and then it game overed

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ah, maybe the fight is just scripted to hit Dart / Slot 0?

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in some situation?

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iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 5:48 PM

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i believe the death flag is 192 dec because that is what i use in dramod on emulator

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 5:48 PM

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yea commander is only attacking Dart atm

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 5:49 PM

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Is this still correct ? #🧰dragoon-modifier message

tired orbit Jun 25, 2024, 5:49 PM

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looks like target is hardcoded to var[34][0]

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nodart v2 will fix stuff like these

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 5:49 PM

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full bolt Is this still correct ? https://discord.com/channels/307164262063669248/10139027...

yes

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 5:49 PM

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Ok, thanks 👌

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 5:50 PM

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tired orbit nodart v2 will fix stuff like these

where to donate

tired orbit Jun 25, 2024, 5:52 PM

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theres nothing to buy in script mines, send dog pictures instead

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:20 PM

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3 party members at the start? ❌
Mirando solo pwning bosses? ✅

last swift Jun 25, 2024, 6:37 PM

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my game grafic is kinda in a to much green colour as well

last swift Jun 25, 2024, 6:37 PM

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full bolt Do you see a weird color or it's just me ?

same like my screen. did you figure out why?

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 6:38 PM

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last swift same like my screen. did you figure out why?

Nop

sweet wyvern Jun 25, 2024, 6:45 PM

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The lighting is broken in the current devbuild

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:46 PM

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untold zealot 3 party members at the start? ❌ Mirando solo pwning bosses? ✅

you've made a new character? wow.

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 6:54 PM

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I made it to Zenebatos, how do we tp back from the moon again ? 🤔

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:56 PM

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i believe i changed it to the archangel room uh

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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(totally not playing during meetings)

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iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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if you hold l1+x in arch angel room as you teleport into the lunar core you should warp back to ulara

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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error from an event when buying burn outs?

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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yes all item and equip events give errors currently but they work

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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yea i crashed though 😄

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????\

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:57 PM

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full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 6:58 PM

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iron bone if you hold l1+x in arch angel room as you teleport into the lunar core you shou...

Ok thanks ! Dart made it to Dlvl 5 shortly before last kraken

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:58 PM

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what shop were you at

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:58 PM

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the very first merchant

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 6:59 PM

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thonk

untold zealot Jun 25, 2024, 6:59 PM

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oh maybe its gamespeed multiplier not working well if there's an error

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 7:31 PM

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u got zoomer energy

last swift Jun 25, 2024, 8:34 PM

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holy crap Haschel first magic I did 214% and just 2 dmg against Jiango?!

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 9:40 PM

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Haschel first magic is useless if you don't have 10 thunder charges on the opponent I think

iron bone Jun 25, 2024, 10:15 PM

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er it should just be a normal spark net enhanced by his dragoon mat%.

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do other magic spells in dragoon form do the same thing? hmm

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was it just on jiango..? i just tried it seems fine.

full bolt Jun 25, 2024, 10:29 PM

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I think it's just Haschel magic attack being weak at this point and Jiango being really bulky

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 8:32 AM

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Looking through this message, does powerful magic item have spot farm now ? #🧰dragoon-modifier message

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I think they'll be useful for the old dragoons

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 8:50 AM

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Is this currently true ? I've been using Haschel thunder fist to hit on an enemy affected by a thunder elemental bomb and he did less than before

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:25 AM

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this is only true when you use a full thunder charge spark net

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Oh ok

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Divine dragon cannon is a one shot on both Meru and Haschel 😮

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I feel like the game is telling to use the GOAT again

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:33 AM

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s2Kongol

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 9:33 AM

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s4Albert

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You managed to beat the divine dragon spirit at this lvl ? #🧰dragoon-modifier message

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He hit so hard even with rose storm

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He just did a 6k8 on Meru with a magic attack, in yellow

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She has 3822 hp shockultrazoom

last swift Jun 26, 2024, 10:13 AM

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Hellmode+ is the final difficulty right? So I guess it´s alright ^^

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 11:31 AM

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the mayfil one?

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if it's the mayfil one probably a level or two lower

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 11:56 AM

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Yeah it's the mayfil one

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 4:12 PM

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Ok well, I just needed better rng

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Except the divine dragon cannon he is pretty weak

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My Dxp just before Zackwell

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Haschel has 100 speed and the energy girdle so he's getting a lot of dxp compared to Meru

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 4:40 PM

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Do we have a way in current dramod to know the def/mdef of the opponents ?

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 4:41 PM

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Open SC debugger with F12 and go to the combat debugger

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 4:41 PM

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Oh ok, thanks 🙏

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Uh i'm stupid, I missed power up in Kadessa

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 4:50 PM

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get this x3 at the end of the 2nd battle

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all players alive

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ig this is the same as for equipment when drops are given

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 4:59 PM

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Is there no other stack trace? It isn't logging what actually crashed in the event handler?

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 5:01 PM

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the green logs are frivolous, the rest of the trace is battle/opengl stuff
i think Zy is aware of it

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need those ff7 menus

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 5:02 PM

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An InvocationTargetException means that the thing that's being called threw an exception, if that exception isn't getting logged it should be

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 5:06 PM

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this is the caused by part

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 5:14 PM

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Okay, that's the important part

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 5:16 PM

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yeah the event works but it says the mod is not loaded every time

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 5:17 PM

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is dragoon_modifier the right modid

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 5:17 PM

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low priority because i want to fix the exp screen 🌈 we need the colours in before the end of the month ./s

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 5:17 PM

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facts

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 5:17 PM

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and the exp fix too might as well

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 5:34 PM

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The current version of mod loader says the mod isn't loaded if you try to access a non-existant ID

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Like dramod:this_doesnt_exist would says dramod isn't loaded even if it is

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 5:50 PM

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but dramod:xyz does exist

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i can set items and equips in the debugger fine

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and you still gain your dramod:xyz in the inventory

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 6:13 PM

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Is that the only registry thing you're using in that event?

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Show me the code?

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 6:16 PM

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event.item = REGISTRIES.items.getEntry("dragoon_modifier:i" + LodMod.idItemMap.get(event.item.getRegistryId())).get();

sweet wyvern Jun 26, 2024, 6:16 PM

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It's failing out of spite for you doing that

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 6:17 PM

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yeah i need a translation layer to LodMod <-> Dramod

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and I need... 3 translation layers (?)

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1 for US / JP
1 for JP Demo
1 for Hard/Hell Mode

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:13 PM

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iron bone Todo list (so i don't have to go back to the archive) 1) Remove EXP Exploit (fo...

why not just give EXP regardless of characters dying? punish char death by some other means (lower all additions by 5-10, only give 50% of the exp if they had been alive...etc)

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:17 PM

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level control from the biggest exp factor

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i can technically stop you from overleveling too much

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going final fantasy 13 on this game, you can only progress so far because you are on this crystarium stage ruff

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and if you can't beat the boss while slightly overleveled... skill issue

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:20 PM

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remove levels 😄

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:26 PM

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ultimate bosses have level control but do i want to do that for normal bosses too thonk

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to me it looks like i did a partial exp exploit to balance hell mode because it's not normal to be level 42 by kraken.

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and you don't need too much grinding unless you want to level up the dragoons

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and i remember at least beating hell mode with the "worst party" combination for that boss.

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but not lower levels.

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:29 PM

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i started with meru haschel and dart
having to grind for even the 3 wardens @ Shana, died to fruegel 1 3 times 😄

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:31 PM

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odd strategy, kill the immortal one first

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it makes it a lot easier

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:31 PM

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?immortal one?

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senior wardens?

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:34 PM

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fruegel

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:35 PM

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yea, tried fruegel as priority or wardens but the wardens 1 shot meru and haschel with their death attack

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iirc meru and haschel have the lowest stats at the early levels so im not surprised

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lvl3 meru, lvl3 haschel, lvl4 dart

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 9:36 PM

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I had no problem with Dart lvl 5 and Lavitz/Shana lvl 4 but maybe your problem is that Meru and Haschel have the same starting equipment's as Dart ?

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And Meru probably dosn't like revenge aoe fire spell 😅

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:44 PM

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at, df, mat, mdf

Lavitz is 13 10 4 4, ~100hp
Hasch is 8 8 5 5, 81 hp

so it matches with what im seeing where haschel can't 'tank' well against physical or magical, plus haschel has 20 less hp than lavitz would.

W/ Shana
Shana 5 5 9 9, 72hp
Meru 5 4 9 10, 54hp

just need them to be lvl4 and it will probably be fine

full bolt Jun 26, 2024, 9:46 PM

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Yeah the differences at this point are huge between each lvl

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 9:47 PM

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yea, also meru is water, so she gets targeted more and b2b more often

iron bone Jun 26, 2024, 9:55 PM

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fruegel hitting meru for 200 damage

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sorry he killed her 3 times over you need 3 angels prayers

untold zealot Jun 26, 2024, 10:09 PM

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grinding against wardens is at least sustainable w/ gold and hp potions, not a soft lock situation 😄

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Meru's SP gains are so low 😂
Dbl Slash on Dart, not Volcano yet

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:20 AM

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Haschel's Dragoon Spark Net did 1500 dmg to the snake at just lvl 4 i93PowerUp
EZMODE

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:25 AM

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like full 10 stuck thunder charge or

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:26 AM

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0 stacks good sir

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:26 AM

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uh ok hm

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:26 AM

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was 241%

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:31 AM

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???

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:32 AM

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yea it did 20 for me

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it dealt like 14xx dmg the first time

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:32 AM

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i have his base equips on right but it's not doing 1500

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:33 AM

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i did get a script crash error but i figured that was a nodart error

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since i had no shana or lavitz on this

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:34 AM

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did you have damage tracker on

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:34 AM

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if it is on where would it log it to

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:34 AM

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in the mods/damage tracker folder

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:35 AM

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all there is

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LOL

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:36 AM

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E414 is urobolous

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:37 AM

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oh it crashed so prob didn't get created

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:37 AM

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untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:37 AM

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this is me setting it to 1hp and killing it with sotry characters right after

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could the thunder stacks have remained present from one battle to the next?

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does full stack of thunder stacks explain 1400 dmg?

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:38 AM

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no not really at most it should be 500

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:39 AM

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🤷‍♂️
hell mode likes me, I'll take it

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:40 AM

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why is the total... 3...

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 1:40 AM

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indeed
it was 1HP, Lavitz dealt 2 damage

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 1:42 AM

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this just so happens to be exact i guess

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 2:00 AM

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y is this dmg tracker not integrated into severed chains
🧐

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fight me

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 2:37 AM

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it's me, hi. the ghost of christmas past.

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typos and all lol

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 2:38 AM

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gg no re

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Let's farm the old man

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Dxp after the first one

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:19 PM

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I ended up at level 47 too by that point.

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where are your other characters at

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:20 PM

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In dxp ?

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:20 PM

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yes

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:21 PM

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Except Albert lvl 2 everyone is lvl 1
I never played anyone except Meru and Haschel. I just tried the divine dragon spirit with hacked Alber/Miranda Dlvl 5

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I'll give you the value after my fight !

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But Meru and Haschel were dead for every bossfight until Mayfil so they are way lower than what they should be

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Rose 2 966
Albert 7 876 (my bad he's not even lvl 2)
Miranda 4 793
Kongol 286 (He only did Indora fight)

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:27 PM

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where's shana

high pebble Jun 27, 2024, 4:27 PM

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who? is 4 793

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maybe he hasnt unlocked her yet

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:27 PM

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With Zieg, on the moon (she was at 3 445 before leaving)

high pebble Jun 27, 2024, 4:27 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:28 PM

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did you utlize the sp equips while not bossing?

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:29 PM

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Meru used pretty hammer until the moon, Haschel still use energy girdle but I never used the wargod sash or other accessory

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:30 PM

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great thank you

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i don't remember what i did last year but Dart for both of us has similar SP value but i believe I had everyone at level 3 at least

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im going to see how the game determines who is dead on the post battle result screen

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:37 PM

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Moon Faust = base game Faust, right ?

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With enrage he hit pretty hard 😮

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:42 PM

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almost, i think he has 75 DF instead of 50 DF

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 4:42 PM

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moon faust is one shot fiesta

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power up + down + special + kongol

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one shot him or get one shotted

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:42 PM

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If only I did not forget to pick up power up 🙂

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 4:43 PM

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just use debugger

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f12, gamestate editor, items

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:43 PM

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How do I know which ID is powerup ?

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 4:43 PM

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lod:power_up

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oops its dramod

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:44 PM

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dramod converts everything from lod: when you pick up it

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you can warp out of moon to go get it

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 4:44 PM

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ok zy explain thy actions

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:44 PM

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It seems to have worked

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 4:44 PM

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it'll explode

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:44 PM

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now you have two ./s

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 4:44 PM

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probably idk

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:45 PM

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tired orbit probably idk

Let's find out

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It worked

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I mean it did not crash my game

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 4:45 PM

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no all normal lod: items work it just that you shouldn't be able to obtain them

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 4:45 PM

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Oh ok

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Thanks 👌

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I'm lvl 50, let's get destroyed by the old dragoons 🥳

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:12 PM

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Syuveil, have mercy pls 😢

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I think I should wait until they are around 50-66% to go special and finish the battle

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They are hitting way too hard when they enrage

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:15 PM

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if they aren't hitting you for over twice your health they aren't hitting hard enough

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Kanzas should be the only hard one.

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:16 PM

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I'm trying Damia, I think it will be easier

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iirc it's Damia<Belzac<Syuveil<Kanzas no ?

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:18 PM

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i mean it would also help if i turned on ultimate boss

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you should have 40/48 items at that point

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:20 PM

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I need more try to say if I find them too hard or not, I hit them really hard but they hit harder ahah

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I just need to know how much I do to them to know when I should use special

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Dart is hitting Damia for 18k5 in special with power up/down

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She has 90k

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I think it's really ok

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Damia is done

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She was really easy compared to my 2 try on Syuveil

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Maybe it's s2Kongol time ? 👀

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:26 PM

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it has always been kongol time how have you been neglecting best character #2

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:26 PM

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Who's best in your opinion ? Shana ?

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 5:28 PM

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kongol

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:29 PM

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If I want to get bandit's shoes without having to get back to Lohan to buy them, the id is lod:bandits_shoes ?

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:30 PM

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tired orbit kongol

Young me agree with you ahah

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:31 PM

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Multi Target
Kongol
Red Eyed Dart
Divine Dart
Shana
Lavitz/Albert
Meru
Haschel
Rose

Single Target
Meru
Kongol
Divine Dart
Hashcel
Lavitz/Albert
Rose
Red-Eyed Dart
Shana

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 5:31 PM

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post-Hoax, whats the expected level of the party, if no1 had died on any boss encounter?

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:32 PM

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6-7 i think

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Rose join lvl 8 I think

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So maybe Dart would be 8~ too

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 5:33 PM

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iron bone Multi Target Kongol Red Eyed Dart Divine Dart Shana Lavitz/Albert Meru Haschel R...

nice rose balancing smh my head

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y everyone hates s6Rose 😭

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:33 PM

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She's old, we don't hate her, we let her rest

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:34 PM

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rose's death dimension is trash

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better to just use... well

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TRUE

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:34 PM

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Is Kongol that strong ?

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:34 PM

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demon's gate should be a level 2 spell

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and death dimension gets a buff

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:34 PM

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Does he still has /2 on the speed items ?

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:35 PM

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imagine if demon's gate has a temporary affect on bosses to increase damage

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 5:35 PM

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gib rose passive berserk

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:36 PM

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rose transforms into ▓▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 5:37 PM

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not yet

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:37 PM

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honestly if i can give her the beta dark mist and do damage

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i'll give her another spell

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 5:37 PM

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i might give you deffs later if i do them

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:37 PM

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or maybe i can try getting black rain to work

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:38 PM

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full bolt Is Kongol that strong ?

yes

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Well i'll try him then

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 5:38 PM

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i might yeet dart and make rose albert kongol trio

full bolt Jun 27, 2024, 5:39 PM

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Burn stack kind of reconciled us

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He's not that bad (Albert is still way better tho)

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 5:45 PM

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post-hoax

bosses where i can get the right party, i attempt with haschel and meru
bosses where it crashes after, i set hp 1 to 1 and manually calc EXP
bosses like kongol/elite, i set shana/lavitz stats equal to haschel/meru in debugger, then calc'd EXP afterwards

Dart Lvl7, HaschelLvl6, Meru Level5 pre-Hoax -> had to grind them to Level 7, Meru 'died' and missed out on like ?150? exp in these hoax fights

#skillissues

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i also noticed w/ vampire kiwis that haschel was oddly in the right dps to sustain the fight
so i made an ahk to attack every 4 times, then guard 3 times w/ Haschel in a save
let it run at 12x for ?40mins?

EZ PROOF OF CONCEPT, kiwis are pog

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 5:48 PM

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i nerfed them by 1 MAT lol

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 5:56 PM

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nice

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disc1 is super annoying w/ party swaps and restrictions

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 6:00 PM

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imagine not just leaving shana in your party for all of disc 1 to solve all battle problems

untold zealot Jun 27, 2024, 6:07 PM

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miranda solo'd all the way to post-hellena 1
i expected better of you

iron bone Jun 27, 2024, 6:11 PM

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hell mode so easy it can be solo'd with characters that don't exist 💀

tired orbit Jun 27, 2024, 6:49 PM

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i should add unlock party fix for sandora elite and add missing patch for drake

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i mean

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no one is insane enough to play hell mode with < 3 characters

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it saves the trouble of some nodart cutscenes though

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 1:51 PM

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Syuveil first try with Dart/Albert/Kongol

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Kongol is indeed really strong

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 2:05 PM

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there is a reason why people who play hard/hell mode say

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s2Kongol KONGOL SMASH

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 2:06 PM

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I've done a few hell mode runs with the old dramod

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But he was never "that" strong for me ahah

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He still have nerfed speed for bandits shoes/ring ?

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In the menu it show +20 not +10

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 2:07 PM

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it's nerfed in battle i would have to overwrite the stat gain menu with an event

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 2:20 PM

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Kanzas first try with Dart/Meru/Kongol
Kongol was the only one alive at the end and only because Meru used a magic shield on him before dying

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Frozen jet + lava blade worked pretty well

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Belzac first try with Dart/Meru/Albert
He was probably the easiest, 80k is pretty low even if he is bulky

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So now it's farming lvl 60 then real Faust and Zieg ?

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 2:35 PM

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yeah basically i am only in zone 3 of ultimate boss and i am trying to rebalnce a bit now that every character is marked alive for boss battles.

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i made level 2 dragoons 4000 DEXP

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Lvl 3 is still 16 000 ?

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 2:36 PM

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yes

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Ok !

minor shuttle Jun 28, 2024, 3:21 PM

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I'm sitting back watching the communication from all of your testing like...

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untold zealot Jun 28, 2024, 3:33 PM

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the repeat items are great, how are you nerfing them later

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 3:41 PM

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at one point they gave 6 turns

minor shuttle Jun 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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iron bone at one point they gave 6 turns

Double it and give it to the next person?

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 4:18 PM

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I was wondering, what do you expect from the old dragoon fights ? They seemed pretty intense but really quick, except Kanzas every fight was finished before the special ended which differ a lot from the others bosses fought until them but maybe that's because at this point we have access to Dlvl5, power up/down and speed up/down 🤔

tired orbit Jun 28, 2024, 4:33 PM

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tbh not all bosses need to be incredibly long

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looks at 500 million hp melbu

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bosses are fine if they hit hard but they're not fine if they use same 2 atacks for 45 minutes

full bolt Jun 28, 2024, 4:36 PM

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tired orbit tbh not all bosses need to be incredibly long

I agree

untold zealot Jun 28, 2024, 4:48 PM

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I want to be punished hard for making tactical mistakes and not knowing the limited mob AI (and things like enrage) 70% of the time and then other 30% "wow that's big hp"

But will take anything over vanilla LoD so whatever Zy wants to punish us with, I'm a gaping wide open- hammer

tired orbit Jun 28, 2024, 5:03 PM

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i need script patches in my lof

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d

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 5:21 PM

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tired orbit bosses are fine if they hit hard but they're not fine if they use same 2 atacks ...

i generally wanted to keep boss fights under 30 minutes

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 5:23 PM

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full bolt I was wondering, what do you expect from the old dragoon fights ? They seemed pr...

they are mostly used to level gate the half element equips

iron bone Jun 28, 2024, 5:24 PM

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untold zealot I want to be punished hard for making tactical mistakes and not knowing the limi...

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

untold zealot Jun 29, 2024, 1:57 AM

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it was a the sweatiest guard scum to get through the marshland for this BAD BOY

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inb4 soldiers stronger than commanders

untold zealot Jun 29, 2024, 2:27 AM

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used attack ball, game then softlocked

full bolt Jun 29, 2024, 8:34 AM

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It's a known issue, recovery ball has the same problem #1197976055923888218 message

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 5:17 PM

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so attack and recovery ball select a random DEFF so i can in theory make it more useful or worse now

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or not nvm

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[DRAGOON MODIFIER] Item DEFF: 4307
[DRAGOON MODIFIER] Item/Spell DEFF: 4323+0
12:50:12.293 [Hardware legend.game.combat.Battle:5866] INFO : Loading spell item DEFF (ID: 197, flags: 0)
looks like the script told the game it selected spinning gale

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it's working now.

rough tree Jun 29, 2024, 6:48 PM

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lol, you’d expect a recovery item but it just kills you lmfao

tired orbit Jun 29, 2024, 7:24 PM

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recovery ball has 2% chance of summoning faust as the enemy

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 9:10 PM

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what-

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in the literal fuck

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shana did the final hit to fruegel... then he started running... then dragoon lavitz flew in chased him until he stabbed fruegel

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and then the game crashed.

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please tell me i can get that again so i can record it

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📎 message.txt

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it did not happen again my entire week is ruined.

untold zealot Jun 29, 2024, 9:24 PM

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Sounds epic

last swift Jun 29, 2024, 9:28 PM

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what the hell xD

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 9:45 PM

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like me falling down the stairs? PFFT
me not seeing that classic circus of a clown show again 😭 😭 😭

sweet wyvern Jun 29, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Excuse me

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 10:01 PM

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You heard me xd

sweet wyvern Jun 29, 2024, 10:01 PM

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You're gonna have to start screen recording all the time

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 10:35 PM

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i can't duplicate it im so sad

sweet wyvern Jun 29, 2024, 10:37 PM

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That's one of the funniest things I've ever heard

last swift Jun 29, 2024, 10:44 PM

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Something is wrong with Kongols deff+mdeff in Dragoon form, he took more dmg than albert physical. both lv 25. I will give some more info.

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magic damage was like 2,5x more

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Kamuy Tree howl attack

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iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 10:47 PM

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that's a wind attack

last swift Jun 29, 2024, 10:47 PM

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look´s like in human form as well

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That´s explain something. Will screenshot the next physical attack

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 10:48 PM

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kongol only has 70% DF / 100% MDF in dragoon form because i tripled his dragoon numbers

last swift Jun 29, 2024, 10:50 PM

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That explain something...

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tripled dragoon numbers?

iron bone Jun 29, 2024, 10:50 PM

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he is actually wearing a bikini in dragoon form which is why his defense numbers are lower but the attack multipliers are higher

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FEAR NERFS THE MONSTER HEALING POTION???

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you learn something new

last swift Jun 29, 2024, 11:03 PM

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holy cow, in bikini form Kongol take more physical damage in deed

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 12:05 AM

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i really don't know what's happening with haschel's damage in dragoon mode

untold zealot Jun 30, 2024, 12:06 AM

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it happened again last night but again didn't get a screenshot in time 😄

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 12:07 AM

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it's happening to me, but it happens differently every time like it's rotating

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original>999999999999 damage->2 damage->original

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 2:32 AM

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fixed.

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will push out an update when i am done disc 1

untold zealot Jun 30, 2024, 2:46 AM

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nice job

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 4:19 AM

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First time install #1197976055923888218 message

Known issues #1197976055923888218 message

Please redownload for the new hell mode changes.
https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST

+Fixed Attack Ball
+EXP from Bosses now rewards +50% EXP while on Hell Mode or Hard + Hell Mode for all participating party members regardless of alive status.
+L1+X to reenter Black Castle (you must be in the correct position for both of these keys)
 +Before Doel reenter Black Castle by going to the New Serdio Party hideout and walk until you see the Warning Sign and press the hotkey
 +After Doel walk up to the new guards from Bale and press the hotkey.
+L1+X to exit Black Castle
 +On the map that looks like a furnance, the one before the bridge, press the hotkey to warp out.
+Kongol 1 -2 AT/MAT
+Kongol 2 4.5x -> 5x HP
+Emperor Doel 4.5x -> 5x HP, +3 AT/MAT
+Dragoon Doel 4.5x -> 5x HP, +2 AT / -1 MAT```

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Disc 2 will get later adjustments when I go through it.

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Also Doel should have had 64 AT and 68 MAT but apparently I nerfed it. I did it at level 16 with those stats. Remember you can add Lavitz/Shana back after their respective off scenes cough.

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 1:23 PM

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I didn´t understand all the new single multi dragoon magic that need no mp. I only see the low dmg and just prefer the orignal dragoon magic attacks.

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 1:51 PM

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it gives you 50 SP if you have more than 100 SP

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if the targeting system wasn't poobuttass i would add multi to the powerful magic items instead.

full bolt Jun 30, 2024, 1:56 PM

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Wouldn't they be way too strong ?

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 2:00 PM

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... i should just live stream

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after i used final burst darts legs went like 6x the size.

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 2:00 PM

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xD

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just record all the time for just in case

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 2:01 PM

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full bolt Wouldn't they be way too strong ?

i would nerf the damage to add multi

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 2:30 PM

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Did you upload and save the changes? Date still 1 week ago und just fight 1 survive against old campaign Virage and exp is like before, see no difference.

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Dramod https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST

GitHub

Release Hell Mode Testing Branch · Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dra...

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 2:41 PM

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12am brain

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it's uploaded now

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 5:39 PM

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equipment cap officially broken

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Hero Comp shop is functional again

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Elemental Bomb shop

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 5:51 PM

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n1

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 5:56 PM

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Ultimate Boss shop working too.

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Will send out an update later.

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 5:58 PM

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The One Ring ❤️

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How are the rules with the dragonblock bosses, like retail or more than 1 round as dragoon no debuff`?

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Jewel & Divine Dragon

stray arrow Jun 30, 2024, 6:17 PM

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is the current version of hell mode considered balanced/playable through the whole game

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 6:20 PM

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That´s why we play it now to give some feedback

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Jewel was freeloot. Albert lv 27 with attack horn Dragoon special attack did almost 50% damage of Boss max HP. Meru magic, Kongol attack, Boss down in 3 turns. To be fair, Albert is OP/Joker and I´m like 2-3 over the normal level at this point.

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If someone give this feedback as well, Jewel could have more HP/Deff. But Jewel hit like a truck when it turn low mdeff chars red HP or 1 hit.

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Till yet to Jewel I´m really pleased to play Hell mode. Here and there some flaws, but very joy able. I recommend that you just try it and be a part of the balance.

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 6:53 PM

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last swift How are the rules with the dragonblock bosses, like retail or more than 1 round ...

Dragon block staff is 20% damage reduction

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Yeah i nerfed jewels hp but now i might revert it. For me i think im going to hit near dlv 4 by end of disc 2.

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 7:27 PM

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I play with every character on average so that they are roughly on the same level for more variety and a longer journey. 3 characters are still dlv3, the others dlv4.

I guess with the same 3 character they would be dlv 4-5 to Divine dragon.

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 9:40 PM

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Crash after hotkey divine dragoon spirit and next fight instant crash. maybe cuz Dart is not dlv 5 yet?

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no divine spirit, no crash.

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dlv 5 Dart crash as well

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 9:51 PM

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uh... how did you manage that

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you shouldn't be able to get the divine dragoon at all in hell mode without getting to ultiamte boss 34.

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what's your difficulty settings in gameplay?

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I still have to fix divine dragoons attack in base SC so I haven't touched it.

last swift Jun 30, 2024, 9:56 PM

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normal hell mode, but it isn´t a clear folder. I have the other mods in the options as well. Just use the X+L1 hotkey on the divine dragon map. I still prefer the fire dragoon atm for dart anyway. the red eyed dragon need take a walk some more 🙂

iron bone Jun 30, 2024, 9:59 PM

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well the hotkey is fixed thank you

iron bone Jul 1, 2024, 1:05 PM

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First time install #1197976055923888218 message

Known issues #1197976055923888218 message

Please redownload for the new hell mode changes.
https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/sc-dragoon-modifier/releases/tag/v2.0TEST
+Fixed all base game equips with DraMod changes.
+Fixed all ultimate boss equips. (inaccessible still)
+Fixed Hero Competition Shop (open Menu, hold Triangle + R2)
+Fixed Elemental Bomb Shop (open Menu, hold Triangle + L2)
New equips in Feltz Accessory Shop for 1000 gold
i91Barrier Protection Shield - Absorb damage up to 50% of the character's Max HP per battle.
i97PotionSP Spirit Bottle - Gives 80 SP on the first turn of battle, this does count towards DEXP.
i95PotionPurify Speed Bottle - Gives an extra turn on the first turn of battle.
i99PotionHP Healing Bottle - Gives 70% HP when HP becomes critical once per battle.
i98PotionMP Sun Bottle - Gives 20 MP when available once per battle.

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I still don't understand how I was level 17 for Virage but ok.

full bolt Jul 1, 2024, 1:49 PM

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The one before Gehrich?

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The new equipments looks nice, especially the spirit and speed bottle 👌

stray arrow Jul 1, 2024, 5:45 PM

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are charm potions broken? I used a couple and a blank text box opened and the encounter indicator did not reset

stray arrow Jul 1, 2024, 9:54 PM

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is hell mode balanced for unlocked party or for vanilla forced party combinations? Having trouble seeing how sandora elite at hoax is beaten with just dart and lavitz without some serious grinding. Lavitz just gets 1shotted by the flame spell

iron bone Jul 1, 2024, 10:04 PM

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Charm potions are broken yes.

iron bone Jul 1, 2024, 10:11 PM

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stray arrow is hell mode balanced for unlocked party or for vanilla forced party combination...

Vanilla forced party combinations.
Currently rebalancing it for level 7 dragoons which I really don't expect anyone to get to before moon.

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You should be able beat the elite at level 7.

untold zealot Jul 1, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Vanilla parties but eith dragoons unlocked?

iron bone Jul 2, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Yes I mean vanilla parties only matter for disc 1.

last swift Jul 3, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Lloyd Dart lv31, Lava Blade, Dragoon Special, Power Up boost, -> Dragoon Attack 4950 but final burst just 25XX - is that realistic?

full bolt Jul 3, 2024, 8:03 PM

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Lloyd is a wingly so he must have a higher mdef I guess

last swift Jul 3, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Is Angel Robe + Holy Ankh combination disabled?

iron bone Jul 3, 2024, 11:48 PM

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no it's just lowered when stacked

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lloyd has 50% more mdf so kinda

minor shuttle Jul 4, 2024, 3:58 AM

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iron bone Vanilla forced party combinations. Currently rebalancing it for level 7 dragoon...

Hell Mode is Vanilla Parties?

What? (I'm impressed)

How? (Tell me your secrets)

I tried Hell Mode with unlocked party against Sandora Commander (Second fight in the game). Dart took 120 Damage from a Burnout.

How have people managed to beat that with Vanilla parties? You guys are next level.

full bolt Jul 4, 2024, 6:42 AM

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Level matters a lot in the early, Dart solo lvl 3 is way stronger than 3 lvl 1

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I'm not sure if you're 2 or 3 when you fight the commander but Dart dragoon addition one shot him at this lvl so it's pretty free if you're playing the game the mod the way it's supposed to be played

minor shuttle Jul 4, 2024, 11:20 PM

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That's really cool!
I wasn't aware at how crazy a difference that levels made!

unborn flame Jul 5, 2024, 9:08 AM

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ive been inactive in this channel for a while. Is Hard Mode gonna be included in SC3 and how do I play Hell Mode?

minor shuttle Jul 5, 2024, 11:26 AM

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unborn flame ive been inactive in this channel for a while. Is Hard Mode gonna be included in...

Not included, but it will be part of Dragoon Modifier which is a Mod you can download.
Hard Mode and Hell Mode will be included in Dragoon Modifier Mod, however Zychronix (The maker of DraMod) only has currently activated Hell Mode for testing purposes.

There is no 100% confirmed date on SC3 or DraMod for SC3's release dates. But they are both nearing completion.

@iron bone Correct me if i'm wrong chief!

full bolt Jul 5, 2024, 1:14 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, hard mod is already available on the current SC version.

#Dragoon Modifier