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glacial pine
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It's a very distinct livery, I'd have been surprised if it was something new

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Like red bull, why bother changing anything

pale tinsel
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AMR launch upcoming

pale tinsel
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aaand they just killed this stream too lmao

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and this is fooked too

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AMR can't even launch a car properly lmao

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LMAO THIS ASTON STREAMS ARE SO FOOKED

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AHAHAHAHA STREAMS BEEN TAKEN DOWN LMAO

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THE LANCE STROLL EFFECT

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it's back and the audios fucked

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it's like the aston stream got copyrighted

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streams gone again LMFAO

glacial pine
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Why can't the teams just post some nice pictures of the cars and the team and call it done

pale tinsel
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and miss out on this comedy stream?

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back again btw

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Oh here we go liveries getting dropped

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finally

glacial pine
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My guess is... Similar to last season

pale tinsel
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its pretty much the same

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with a bit of fluro green on the side pod

glacial pine
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Ooh it's more different than McLaren or red bull went. It looks good

pale tinsel
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oh streams fucked again

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doesn't matter now

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I don't think there's enough ref to honda tbh

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like they could have done the shark fin in white

glacial pine
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Maybe honda is less needy than HP

severe spindle
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I don't see any Honda influence in its design and color either

severe spindle
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They made one livery since 2023, and they've stuck with it

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Even their eddie jordan tribute livery was an embaressment

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Just stuck an emblem on the side of the spoiler

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Much as I like Aston Martin and hope to see them do good this season

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This livery is getting the 2nd worst livery of the season, only above Audi

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It's absolutely uncreative, and not nuanced whatsoever, and it managed to make one of the biggest deals in F1 history in modern times look boring

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Welp, here's my ranking now that they're all revealed if anyone cares:

  • 1: TGR Haas F1 Team
  • 2: Scuderia Ferrari HP
  • 3: Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team
  • 4: BWT Alpine F1 Team
  • 5: Cadillac F1 Team
  • 6: Atlassian Williams Racing
  • 7: McLaren Mastercard F1 Team
  • 8: Visa CashApp Racing Bulls F1 Team
  • 9: Oracle Red Bull Racing
  • 10: Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team
  • 11: Revolut Audi F1 Team
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I will say, the general quality of the liveries this season is pretty high, and trhe variety is good

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Whilst the ranking may be like this, I'd say all of these cars are of a higher standard of liveries than 2025

pale tinsel
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this is my current copium

granite tangle
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granite tangle
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nothing comes close to the kardashian curse

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them women are demons

glacial pine
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Is Lewis dating Kim or whoever it was, or were they sat next to each other.

pale tinsel
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allegedly dating

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severe spindle
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Like are they models, porn stars, what

glacial pine
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They are "famous women from LA"

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There job is "Celebrity"

severe spindle
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Seriously? They don't even have any defined career?

glacial pine
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Kim went viral when a sex tape she'd filmed with a partner went VIRAL, and they've built everything off the back of that.
Oh I think the parents have big money from more down to earth jobs back when that was possible in the states.

severe spindle
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Most people's careers usually get ruined when a sex tape gets released

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And these people make an empire off of it

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That makes me respect them all the less

glacial pine
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Well, it changed her career. She was a professional stylist, organising the closets of Rich Celebs before that happened.
So she had connections with media savvy people

severe spindle
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Certainly had rhe right cards play in her favor

glacial pine
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Honestly, bravo to making a career beyond something awful like that happening

severe spindle
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She definitely knows her way around the business and reputation

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Gotta hand her that

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But alas, the fact that they are just famous for no particular reason, just makes me annoyed

glacial pine
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There was an Olympic medal winning uncle or cousin too or something

severe spindle
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That's definitely one way to exploit popularity

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pale tinsel
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kimi talibantonelli strikes again

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looks like he got rear ended

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severe spindle
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It was given to him by Mercedes

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And now it's like this

pale tinsel
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he's gonna be getting a Mercedes A180 base model

severe spindle
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Hahaha

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Imagine the scolding hell get from toto and his parents

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It's never not funny

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Crashing in real life has alot mor responsibility put on one's shoulders than in F1 xd

pale tinsel
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costs him a lot more too to crash a mercedes road car rather than the f1 car

granite tangle
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crashing this is like

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150k?

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a crash in F1 could send someone's family a bill of 300k 😭

glacial pine
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Didn't she also kill someone by running them over?

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But that's an Off Topic chat

glacial pine
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Tweetmans Twenty Tweety Six livery ranking:
1 Haas
2 Williams
3 McLaren
4 Mercedes
5 Aston Martin
6 Audi
7 Ferrari
8 Red Bull
9 Alpine
10 Revolut Toro Rosso or whatever the fuck that mess is called this year

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Top 2 I Like a Lot
3 - 6 I think are Good
7 - 9 yawn worthily unoriginal but Fine I Guess
10 Ew

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glacial pine
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The Kardashian extended family girls really are women who can do it all...

severe spindle
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Yeah we share Haaand Mercedes around the same ranking

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But the rest are very different

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I can't say I agree with it, but I understand where you're coming from

glacial pine
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I like the Audi because the silver paint is a fabulous finish

severe spindle
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It's just not enough for me frankly

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We've had silver before

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And it was never this plain

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It's interesting watching these videos. Webber really was one of those drivers that whilst was seemingly headed for greatness, was always that one step short and had immensely bad luck

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It's honestly hilarious looking back on Williams themselves as well

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A team that for a while compared themselves to the status of Ferrari and McLaren, in that anything less than a win was often considered a failure

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Yet looking at them now, there's not a single sign of the team that once had that level of ego

severe spindle
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I feel such an odd fondness for this period of Sauber designs. The color combination feels oddly cool

strong kite
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From the ones who brought you LeDelusions and Verslight Chance

glacial pine
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I only want Lewis and Charles to be happy

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glacial pine
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Oh god not the fucking Oxagon logo 🙃

severe spindle
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Hmm

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I saw the Cadillac post for their livery on YouTube and every top comment said "welcome back BAR"

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Im so glad to get the references

granite tangle
severe spindle
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I couldn't even tell you who was who for a time

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But now I am looking at older F1 videos and able to draw my own conclusion of what makes for a successful F1 team and driver

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Guess I have matured, I am happy

severe spindle
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I mean when wanting to look at the success of some teams, you can't just take what happens at surface value and say "Yeah Williams 2005 campagin with BMW didn't go well"

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because more often than not, there's far more depth to every success and more importantly, every failure

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You can't look at a team like Ligier/Prost and think its idealogy was any similar to a team like Minardi or benetton

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One thing I've realized quite well in the world of F1, at least before the modern era of hyper-engineering, the winning cars often just the ones that were reliable and or had consistent pace

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Many failing teams had one good component, be it the engine, the aero, the chassis, the driver, and most other components failed

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This is probably why teams like Sauber or Minardi survived being in the sport for so long

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Whilst never being contenders for a title, their existence was never an entire failure either
Usually able to achieve some form of reliable way for the drivers to prove themselves, and get picked up into better teams

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even if being dead last, they typically finished at least

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They never had the engineering marvels that allowed them to get into contention, but they never had massive drop off and failures either

pale tinsel
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PIRELLI PC

severe spindle
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Ngl, that is a really cool PC case design

glacial pine
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It is Race Week

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It is also a second race week

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The weird little Jeddah layout with all the chicanes

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And the Friday race has a charging stop

severe spindle
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This is very different to the F1 jeddah design

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I want to get F1 2018, I've heard it handles easier than 2020

pale tinsel
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alright it looks fuckin brilliant on track

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glacial pine
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Such a fascinating engine cover... Honda definitely not following the crowd

severe spindle
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So I ain't surprised oit looks good on track

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granite tangle
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ill be dming @glacial pine and @severe spindle my research findings on sites that stream f1 or f1+other stuff like WEC Indy NASCAR etc..

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anyone else want gimme a ping

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ill be home tomorrow for the next day of testing so we'll see which of these seems to work better

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I think lessons for today are

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Aston might be fucked

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Ferrari do not look fucked at all so far

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Redbull looks quite good

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Audi is probably fucked

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Mercedes is lying

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Also onboards look good this year

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NEW F1 ONBOARDS!🏁
Last year F1 began the switch to new Sony cameras, similar to those used in MotoGP with in-camera stabilisation - which has now been rolled out to all teams!
We're now getting a 13% screen increase for a wider field of view, and less of the fish eye effect!

glacial pine
granite tangle
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It’s good

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Onboards the last 2 years were kinda iffy for me

granite tangle
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🗣️Scott Mitchell-Malm: "Verstappen has been an early proponent of using an unorthodox downshifting technique that offered us the first real sign of potential tricks to use high-revving engines to help charge the batteries [...] Throughout Wednesday’s running Verstappen was consistently using first gear where it would never normally be needed and where (initially) everyone else was using second gear [...] It feels like something that Red Bull is deploying as a deliberate tactic the most, and to the best effect, and Verstappen already seems relatively at ease in terms of mastering." [The Race] #F1 #F1Testing

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Can I just say

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I know Lance's skill isn't that good

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but the fact that his best lap in the Aston Martin was a whole second behind Sergio in the Cadillac, is a bit embaressing

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The Aston martin really is looking less and less hopeful the closer we get to this season's opening

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Also, 4th fastest time by Esetban, damn

severe spindle
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I think this says less about Lance

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And more about just how much struggle Aston is gonna undergo

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Crazy how hopeful we used to be for a possible 3rd WDC for Alonso

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But it seems like Honda didn't get the regulations right, and all their talent left for Red Bull

sick meadow
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i was never on the hype train

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people treat him like he's the marc marquez of f1

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when in reality he's just a george russell with 2 championships

severe spindle
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Nah Alonso is definitely good

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His two championship seasons didn't come easy

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Being ran by a competitive Mclaren in 2005 and a competitive Ferrari in 2006

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Alonso's skills are way above average, but his luck is absolutely down the drain

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I was never expecting 2026 to be a WDC season for him, but I did hope that it'd be competitive at least

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And it seems like it won't be even that

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Slower than Cadillac, that is just embaressing

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Regardless, he's kind of just there because he's popular

sick meadow
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say it with me, testing time don't mean anything

severe spindle
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Gives a reason for people to support Aston

sick meadow
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testing time don't mean anything

severe spindle
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When otherwise they wouldn't have any real reason

sick meadow
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more indicative way of looking at how fucked they are is laps ran

severe spindle
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Hence they keep getting old WDCs which are popular to race for them

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I assure you that if Michael Schumacher was still around

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They'd pay him billions to drive for them

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sick meadow
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yes

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Aston ran the least amount of laps in both Barcelona and Bahrain

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And are among the slowest on the time sheet

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They are having constant overheating issues

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severe spindle
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Alonso will adapt no problem, but the other side of the garage will be even more useless than usual

sick meadow
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adapt no problem idk

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his years at mclaren

severe spindle
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alonso is one of the most versatile drivers in the F1 paddock

sick meadow
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shows

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otherwise

severe spindle
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I meant he'll adapt as a driver

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Not that he'll be competitive

granite tangle
severe spindle
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Yeah Alonso will do the best that can possibly be done with the car

granite tangle
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itll be shit regardless tho

severe spindle
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He's not my worry, my worry is that it'll be a repeat of the GP2 days

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Like seriously, we memed, and it came true

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Why does Alonso have such bad luck

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Poor guy

sick meadow
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i assure you he's crying with his billion

granite tangle
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lawrence decided to take the bag from honda than to trust mercedes to make a good hybrid v6

severe spindle
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The thing is, I see why Aston did that

sick meadow
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well to be fair

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honda with redbull has been stella

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severe spindle
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For one, Honda PUs in the Red Bulls were dominant
Plus, being a works team means better support and development for engines

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We've rarely had customr teams be world champions

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So it was the right move for them to get with Honda

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However, when all the smoke went away, it became clear that this Honda is more akin to the 2015 McLaren Honda than the 2023 Red Buill Honda

granite tangle
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i mean the last 2 years we did, and essentially mclaren has a lot of WCCs and theyve always been customers

sick meadow
severe spindle
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Up until Mercedes themselves entered F1

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sick meadow
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they're still a customer

severe spindle
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Mercedes is Works team

severe spindle
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because they don't supply Honda PUs to any other team

sick meadow
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alpha tauri

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has a word

severe spindle
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Aston is Honda's works team this season

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Doesn't count really

sick meadow
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?

severe spindle
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VCARB is RB's 2nd hand as always

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So they're just an extension of RB

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than another team

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Hence why they always have the same PUs

sick meadow
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not really

severe spindle
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Since being acquired by Red Bull

sick meadow
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they're with the same owner sure

severe spindle
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bark why are you arguing

sick meadow
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they have different factories

severe spindle
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These are facts

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VCARB doesn't count

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They're Red Bull B-team

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They're red bull's customer if anything

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Red Bull was Honda's works team

severe spindle
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Like how the 2025 VCARB is a copy of the 2024 Red Bull

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Regardless, the only Driver championship of recent times to not be a works team was McLaren in 2025

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But constructors have been with McLaren since 2023

severe spindle
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Still is a surprise to hear anyway

granite tangle
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id argue its better than f1 for him now

severe spindle
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Given Alonso burned all bridges with McLaren post 2018

granite tangle
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mclaren has probably the best car in indy

severe spindle
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But I guess he didn't burn them all

granite tangle
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or one of the best

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and then theres the fact that if he does it hes a triple crown holder

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I just hope AM figure it out before Australia

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I don't wanna see an Alonso retirement on the opening round

granite tangle
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full day for hadjar alonso norris and charles

pale tinsel
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bearman and gasly too

granite tangle
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results are expected 😭

pale tinsel
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give bearman and haas some benefit

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not alpine

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although i do like their straight line mode wing

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everyones gone with old drs style but they put the back of their wing down to flatten it out

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pale tinsel
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probably

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glacial pine
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What's the secret sauce to making shit work

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glacial pine
granite tangle
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and those two presumably have decent cars on top of that right

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so imagine how bad it is for fernando

severe spindle
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I know Lewis and Max hated their 2025 cars

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granite tangle
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they have it for the regulations in general

severe spindle
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Really?

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I thought Lewis was in support of the 2026 regulations

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Given how much he struggled with Ground effect cars

granite tangle
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lewis said the cars are slower than GP2, overexaggeration but alas

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and max said winning or not means nothing to him if the cars arent fun, and they arent so he is looking forward to participating elsewhere throughout the year more than F1

severe spindle
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isn't being slower better? Means they'll be easier to drive

granite tangle
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if f1 was about being slow stroll would be an 8 time champion

severe spindle
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I don't mean one or two drivers being slow

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But rather all the grid being slow

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Similar to how cars from 1997 to 1998 got alot slower

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In order to increase reliability, decrease costs, increase safety

pale tinsel
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In theory, slower would be better but by the sounds of it because the battery is a much bigger component of the overall power they're having to basically do the opposite of racing just to have all the power available to them

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like shifting down on long straights

severe spindle
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Ah, so it's become too much power management and not enough racing

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To be honest, we all feared this might be the case

pale tinsel
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teams have been raising this ever since the engine regs were confirmed a couple years ago

severe spindle
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The thing whcih confuses me was that FIA made this change specifically to allow newer teams like Audi and Cadillac to join the grid

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Have a bit of a tech reset to give them more of a chance to enter the grid in a competitive format

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But if this is the issue we're gonna have to contend with, then it's gonna make for some problems

granite tangle
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they are adding a chicane in the middle of jeddah straight because the battery doesnt last long enough

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now imagine what its gonna be like in monza where they cant do that

severe spindle
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Yeah that's even more confusing

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severe spindle
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@glacial pine I know you're all for battery power and such, but this definitely does seem like a downgrade

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if the power management is gonna become this much of an issue

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severe spindle
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and the new thing is basically DRS 2.0

pale tinsel
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the fe track has chicanes on the start finish straight

severe spindle
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Then this really makes for less wheel to wheel racing

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severe spindle
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So why is it even there then

granite tangle
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one more gimmick to satisfy audi and honda

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cadillac are indifferent to hybrid power, they wanted in regardless

severe spindle
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Cadillac is coming in purely for the vibes

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I respect that

granite tangle
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btw sergio just had an interview

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one more to the toll of comparing it to formula e

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and saying the regs are shite

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so no matter if you are top of the field, midfield, or dead last like alonso

severe spindle
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Makes me feel less hopeful

granite tangle
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they all hate it equally

pale tinsel
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You know whats most worrying? If they're saying this about the regs now, imagine in a couple years time when they start converging

severe spindle
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I know that this isn't new specifically, I think every new regulation without question has had very unpopular opinions around it

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It was the case for 2007, for 2009, for 2014, for 2022, etc

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it takes time to re-adapt to something so different

granite tangle
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i mean if it tells you anything in 2014 everyone but mercedes complained

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and in 2026 the same is happening

severe spindle
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mercedes, masters of being cheap

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while also every driver of a mercedes powered car

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is painting redbull as the favorite

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in order to get the FIA to allow their compression trick

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why would sainz of all people come out and praise redbull like come on

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https://youtu.be/T3nrpj38zSk

just gonna be watching this for the christian horner drama

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granite tangle
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its all games, and i bet those mercedes engines are sandbagging so hard its going to feel like a different year come australia

pale tinsel
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do you remember how much mercedes dominated 2014 Australia?

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I saw siomethings about FIA outlawing them

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pale tinsel
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Mercedes are sandbag experts

pale tinsel
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they were coasting and slapped everyone

severe spindle
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Honestly how does someone get regulations so good on their first try

pale tinsel
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ricciardo's 3 wins that year were cause of mercedes rare fuck ups

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iirc

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mercedes has been known to lock the full potential of the engines away to ensure a definite advantage

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believing that being a customer meant they were disadvantaged

pale tinsel
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like legit fia rule that the engines have to have parity

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pale tinsel
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fair point

severe spindle
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I mean in fairness, you'd be stupid to give your opponents the same PU you want to dominate with

granite tangle
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no the top batch goes to mercedes its allowed, mercedes just has to carefully "define" what top batch and not top batch is

severe spindle
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So some differences are exepcted

pale tinsel
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besides, mercedes will know how best to unlock the full potential

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Ngl, hearing all this makes me happy that they struggled so badly from 2022 onwards

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That they finally understood that cheating is cheap

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Makes me happy that they got stolen the title in 2021 as well

granite tangle
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thats why people were happy with 22 redbull ferrari battle

pale tinsel
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before you know. ferrari remembered they were modern ferrari

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and absolutely fucked it

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then in 23 people kinda forgot how bad we used to have it

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cause i mean yeah 23 was a fuck you season from redbull

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and boring

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but 2014 to like 2020 pretty much was this year in year out almost

severe spindle
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In fairness, 2023 Red Bull was the same as Mercedes dominance years

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So I guess everyone egts their due

granite tangle
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yeah but it was 1 year

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is my point

severe spindle
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Exactly

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This is what is questionable

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1 year of dominance is fine, maybe even 2

pale tinsel
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that rb19/verstappen combo 2023 was something else

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but mercedes had like

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7 in a row?

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Were Mercedes bribing FIA under the table from 2014 to 2020? Like how did they manage to nail those regulations so precisely

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massive head start in 2014 that snowballed

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and other teams fucking up

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and renault powering redbull

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How did the other teams fuck up that badly

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it is amazing

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and ferrari trying to cheat but failing

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but yeah esp 2020 that year was full bullshit

pale tinsel
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plus red bull kept developing in 2013 cause they thought mercedes was catching, but mercedes had stopped developing after like hungary that year

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they got away with so many fucking loopholes

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and then the engines in 21 that was also disgusting

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pale tinsel
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🙏 please FIA let Ferrari have the cheating engines again 🙏

severe spindle
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The funny thing is, I hear people still suspect Ferrari is still cheating

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But if they are

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They ure are cheating pretty poorly

granite tangle
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if ferrari hid it just a tiny bit better we would live in a different timeline

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but no fuckass charles had to be going 20kmh over everyone else in the spa straight

pale tinsel
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ikr

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even with drs the mercs couldn't catch him

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even in monza

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if you listen to the onboards, you can hear the engines turning up so to speak

granite tangle
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but like crucify me if you will

severe spindle
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The thing which angers me alot, is that most teams cheat in order to gain an advantage
But even when they get caught cheating, they still usually have some semblance of performance
But Ferrari? What happened? How hard were thet cheating that after being found out, they became slower than Williams

granite tangle
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but if party mode and the fuckass DAS and the mysteriously overpowered engines were allowed

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ferrari should have gotten away with it

severe spindle
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Actually, here's a question

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How would Mercedes realistically get away with the 2026 cheat

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it's clearly cheating

granite tangle
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they would if FIA decides to allow it

severe spindle
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No matter what the rule book says, FIA should be like "You think you're funny don't you? Fuck off"

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It's a clever cheat

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But why it was overruled makes no sense to me

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If that's illegal, surely so is the party mode

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but that got banned

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i hope the compression thing gets banned the same way

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or the season is kinda fucked

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The worst part?

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Mercedes would be the only one gaining the Advantage

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the Alpine broke down lol

granite tangle
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all the mercedes cars that are doing laps in bahrain are currently fitted with legal engines

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thats why they kinda "suck" esp the customer teams

severe spindle
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Bruh mate

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now as for the main team, they should have better engines, and should be faster, but they are sandbagging just to let redbull PU seem the fastest

severe spindle
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This is why it's sometimes difficult to take F1 seriously
You have teams like Ferrari, Red Bull and Mercedes doing everything in their power to cheat, and then teams like Sauber sticking to regulations and being fucked over

granite tangle
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they chose the one they think is the closest to them, and they turn the whole grid against them

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distracting the attention from their PU's strength

severe spindle
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Poor Sauber has been getting fucked over since 2010

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and hence increasing the likelihood of their compression trick being allowed for the season, and banned next year

severe spindle
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like the flexing wing of McLaren of 2025

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the flexing wing was allowed for 2024 when it shouldnt have been, and abruptly banned in 2025 when it should have been banned before season start

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it just shows the FIA is just terrible nowadays

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they cant decide, and then they decide last minute

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thats the worst of both worlds

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argubaly MBS only improved FIA

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Because it was already rock bottom

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he absolutely DID NOT

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I know, I'm memeing

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it was shite

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but yeah now

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way way worse

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But honestly, looking throughout the history of F1

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It's hard to take this story seriously

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Everytone views Michael Schumacher era with rose tinted glasses

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When the year 2000 was literally more one sided than any Red Bull or Mercedes season

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F1 was always awful

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It's never been about being coimpetitive

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because every single winning car was cheating

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or had a driver which was unrealistically better than others

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Man reading the stuff on Honda is just depressing

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It's also just F1 testing, who KNOWS what the races will be like

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Attack mode might be good for F1. Might suck. We don't really know yet

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There's a Formula E double this weekend, so I'm not about to start paying attention to Bahrain testing week 1 tbh

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I understand then

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But we'll see If FE ideas work in F1

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i gotta admit NASCAR this year are cooking

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now to see if they can make the cars more interesting like they used to be..

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It’s never going to happen

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But if he actually rocked up

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It would be so funny

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It would be quite cool

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The 3Evo is faster off the line than anything else, he might even have fun

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But quali is being pretty wild right nown

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Rowland and Cassidy nowhere again.

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Kiro vanishing after looking good

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Jev has shaved and I don't like it

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Mahindra in the duel finale maybe this could be Mortara's Year (delusion) finally

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Oh my god mortara hit the Verstappen wall

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Still got pole position

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The dream is still alive

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Pascale Wehrlein somehow found some pit stop magic what a ride

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Mahindra got FE pole, Mortara some how started the race in burnout mode and ended up 6th by turn one. And he STILL clawed back to 2nd.

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And then Pascale and Porsche somehow embarrassed the whole grid at the pit stop charging phase, with a strategy that gave them a ten seconds lead.

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Soprry about that

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Formula E race day

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What will happen today

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De Vries car seems to still be broken, after missing the start yesterday

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Why is Arvid Lindblad at the Formula E FP3. Doesn't he have testing this weekend?

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Oh he used to be mentored by Oliver Rowland (world champion) and is there learning about energy management

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I am just feeling confused honestly

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Indeeed I am, also that vine, memories

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Well to add to the confusion, there's another race in 30 minutes

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They do get through em

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Office indeed

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Here's a question and theory, how likely do you think Stellantis is to enter F1 now that GM has done the same and so has Ford?
It's an expensive venture, but given their connections and slew of brand and history they have under their wings, they wouldn't be short for the sponsor money it could bring in
It could be possible for them to start a whole new team, but it seems more logical to purchase a currently failing F1 team

My theory is, they'll buy Christian Horner and make him CEO of the team, then buy Alpine F1 team from Renault and use that moving forward
They could name it many diferent brands which exist under Stellantis, but I think Peugeot seems most likely given they're established in Motorsport, both in former F1 and even current motorsports like TCR and WEC

So a possible Peugeot F1 team doesn't seem very unlikely

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Maserati F1, if they want the heritage.

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Dodge would be logical, but dodge cares not for logic

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And nor does Stellantis, they'd probably brand it Leapmotor or Jeep or something

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So there really isn't much to attach themselves to

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I considered Maserati adn Alfa romeo

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But they're just dead brands in everything but the name

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Peugeot on the other hand has both been in F1 and is currently engaged in other Motorsport series

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I kind of doubt thye'll do that, make a F1 team I mean
But it's never entirely unlikely either

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The thing is, as car companies go, the ones who want to be in F1, already are.

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I guess you're right, but managements and directions do change as they go along

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Neither could I

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And with more rules coming in every season

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It could create chance for some better competition off the get go

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Modern F1 teams operate considerably better than F1 teams of old

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Where there could be a mass disconnect between major parts of the organization

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Honestly one thing I've learned from watching the various F1 teams' documentaries on YouTube was how most unsuccessful teams were unsuccessful due to internal issues than actual performance struggle

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Some teams like Toyota and Jaguar had mass disconnect between the heads of the ownership and the people who ran the team
Some teams had internal struggles between the supplier and the team like Prost
Some teams cannot secure enough funding and get stuck in a loop of not being able to develop their cars enough like Minardi or Sauber in later years

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Very rarely it seems a F1 team's failure comes from just not being able to develop their car due to their own short coming of competence and knowledge

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Goes to show how signifianct the saying of "F1 is a team sport" is
Because it really is a team sport with how all pieces need to work together for any success to materialize

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It's why Red Bull is successful in spite of having been filled with internal struggle for so long

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They built such a good basis since 2010, hired talented people and kept their heads where they should have been, had the best structure they could possibly ever have that it would be difficult for the balance to be off-set by recent in-team struggles

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2 things have come out of this year's bathurst 12 hours

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its crazy that you can have 2 cars stopped in the middle of the road and you dont immediately wave double yellows

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and well, about the kangaroo thing, i dont know if that was even worse

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rip tofu amg, you were great to look at for 8 hours

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Broken back 🤯😳

It took nearly 30 seconds from the time that Zelger spun to being hit by Aron.
Aron said he did not want to lay blame with anyone, but wanted to understand how the crash happened.

“I have a lot of experience in these environments, and I understand the risks that come with this type of racing,” he added.

“The situation in Bathurst was a serious one, and for that reason I would like to have a meeting and open discussion with race control to share my experience and perspective.

“This is not about pointing fingers. It is about understanding what happened and making sure we can prevent situations like this in the future, so that racing at this beautiful track can be as safe as possible for everyone.”

QRT: speedcafe
Mercedes-AMG driver Ralf Aron has revealed he broke his back in the crash that red-flagged the Meguiar’s Bathurst 12 Hour.

https://speedcafe.com/?p=1020560

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I have honestly no idea why this happened

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It could have so easily been avoided with a yellow flag

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What were the retarde at race control doing

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Poor man, broken his back
That's likely damaged his future in motorsports as well

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and thats not counting that the amg was battling 2 cars behind it, so the fear of you braking hard only to be crashed into from behind

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look at the gaps between these cars and tell me how to avoid an incident with such a late yellow

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just burn FIA and its rules, also burn race control alive

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maybe we'll get better racing then

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at one of the world's best tracks nonetheless

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That's incredibly stupid espiecally on a circuit with so many inclines and declines and blind corners

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It's just pure nonsense frankly

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Such an easily avoidable incident

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They have got to start giving marshalls, in places like this, more authority to slam a full course yellow or safety car if they see stuff like this happening.

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i think everyone (bar some people siding with the FIA for some reason) think marshalls should have the authority to wave a yellow earlier when theres literally 2 parked cars round a blind corner

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It's probably unprecedented, but like... There's numerous tracks across the world where this sort of thing can happen and they need to do SOMETHING

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Gotta say, setting up cars in content manager in AC is quite fun

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Does anyone here know whether if the F1 cars back in 1997 were insanely unstable or if it's just this AC mod that's so hard to drive

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I am trying this 1997 Sauber C16 mod off of Assettto world and it is very unstable. I can barely give it any steering input whilst my foot is on the gas

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I read online a while ago, and saw in a video, about Jean Alesi and what could have been
One thing which struck out to me was that Jean potentially had a chance to score a seat with Ferrari for the 2000 season given Ferrari were considering sacking Michael due to lack of results since his hiring and the money they spent getting both him and all his other side pieces

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Maybe what the videos meant were rather the 2nd seat which was now vacant due to irvine leaving

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Eitherway, it is funny to consider that Alesi could potentially have been driving those champion winning cars, and makes you wonder where Michael would have gone if he got sacked

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McLaren wouldn't accept him due to their driver line up being pretty set in stone by that point

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Williams and Jordan would likely be the other option but neither were the champion material teams he'd want

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And every other team wouldn't be able to pay for his fees or give him a competitive car

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He'd be kind of stuffed if that did happen

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Tear it down

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Before it’s even built just do it

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Seven months is enough time.
I hope they fail

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Christ, how the hell do theyy hope to host a race here in 7 months

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it takes longer to prep an existing circuit for F1

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Why did constructions begin so late

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This is just embaressing

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This circuit is supposed to replace Cataluniya?

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HAH!

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I wasn'\t expecting it to be literaly on sale

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People hate Barcelona as it is

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You can have your opinion on it

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But spa not being on the calendar is absolutely egregious

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Barcelona has been alright now they removed the chicanes, I think. And the number of ultra high speed corners is very very cool

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i personally like it ^ twitter people hate it though

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so i went safe and said

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even if you hate it, its prolly better than madrid

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Twitter loved Mugello, a race where nothing happened, so if Madring 2026 has a multi car pile up it'll be tweeted about like the second coming of Christ

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pileups are fun

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but they dont make a track good or bad

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twitter has less collective intelligence than an amoeba though so

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It's a very good circuit by all means

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It has everything you'd want

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nothing about tha Madring makes it better

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Terrible track for F1 racing. Probably fun the do qualifying on but the race was a snoozefest with some silly crashes

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so it got chaotic from the first turn of the first lap

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yes that is fun in itself, but is it because of the circuit or was it because it was an one-off?

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people with a brain will tell you its the latter

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btw testing is live if anyone cares about checking it a bit

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its not looking too good

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Poor Fernando

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Do we think he'll actually retire this time, or try and move to Cadillac

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Not poor Lance, daddy owns the team and Lance is there because he has fun

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I think Lance will retire for 2026 or 2027 as well

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But holy shit man

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Aston is just having such a bad time

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Hopefully won't be a miss when the actual season starts

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I wanna see a competitive Ferrari FINALLY

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Charles deserves compensation

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For sure

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7 years at Ferrari, wasted away his chances

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he deserves at least one title

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otherwise, he'll just be added to the very big pile of Ferrari champions that never were

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Sebastian Vettel, Felipe Massa, Fernando Alonso, Eddie Irvine, Jean Alesi, Nigel Mansell, etc

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Folks often don't realize, it takes a very big ask to make Ferrari into champions

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Vettel said yesterday that he is in contact with max about competing together that’s why they asked max today about it

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I don’t know what gets them to win if they even can, just to see them competing would be absolutely insane

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That would be fun for them

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3 man team of Seb, Fernando and Max? the BoP they're gonna need ooft

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if they run with toyota

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I've heard enough, put them in that wingless Peugeot

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or the Lamborghini that was so shit that they pulled out

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Independent Porsche 963 entry?

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thats a big ask

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Lando and Fernando were close when Fernando was at McLaren

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If Lando does other discipline racing he won’t do HY

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He’ll prolly want to do GT3 in the 46 BMW with Rossi

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Cause Rossi is his idol afaik

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I don't see that happening

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You don't go from Open wheel to anything lower than Hypercar

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Only reason Max went to GT3 is because he needs GT3 license before he can get Hypercar license

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its possible, and Norris just doesnt seem interested in Hypercar

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Wasn't Psy in the intro for the 2013 Korean GP

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LADS FERRARI ARE DOING THINGS AND I'M SCARED

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driving today morning

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okay this is actually smart

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that plus the penis theyve added on their diffuser

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though im not too sure about that one

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the scuderia are actually using their brains

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this is uncharted territory for them

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couple that with the fact they intentionally went for a smaller turbo cause they warned everyone about the start procedure being difficult with the loss of the mgu h

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we are so back

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lets come back to this end of 2026 when I'm circling in Ferrari depression as both lewis and charles tell them to fuck off and leave

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even in 2024 Ferrari only began being compeitive later on

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Ferrari are putting alot into 2026, probably the biggest money spend out of any team
Given the car we see won't even be the one in the actual race, as that'll be a different variant based on testing results

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Ferrari spinny wing is hilarious

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But I don't understand how turning it upside down reduces drag? Obviously you get lift over downforce. But lifting wings also generate drag for the same reasons as downforce

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possibly yeah

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That's what F1 is about afterall

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Stretching engineering limits to the line of regulation violation

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before the FIA inevitably bans it cause they're the fun police

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guys

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the hopium is building

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Also what's this

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They're testing grid starts too?

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I think the one I’m ripping right now is F1TV

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Also, the Aston broke down in the middle of the track again

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With Alonso this time, after almost 70 laps

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Aston is running huge amounts of cooling

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And the Honda engine still shits on itself

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I think legit there’s nothing newey can do

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The car is already in Mexico-spec

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Yeah that's kind of amazing
Makes me sympathise with Ron Dennis and the 2015 McLaren

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It has so much drag from all the cooling bits and still breaks down

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It wasn't McLaren's fault that Honda can't design an engine

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The McLaren chassis back then was good too

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Indeed

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It was as good as a Newey design

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Very aerodynamic

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But had no power

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Probably, I’ve heard stories about it being one of the best

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And no cooling

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But ofc you can’t prove that

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No cooling is subjective to the engine sadly, the Alpine this year for example is running the least cooling of all the grid and they are somehow fine

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Clearly the Mercedes engine demands way less cooling

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That one also had cooling issues

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What's funny is that AM didn't even go for a super tight body

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Unlike McLaren

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And Honda is still struggling

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oh dear lord

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Fernando is gonna nuke Japan himself

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Jesus it sounds broken

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This doenst inspire confidence

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I feel like all this energy conservation should only be a thing in Formula E or something

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But alas, it's been like this as far back as 2014

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It ain't my place to judge an every evolving sport

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Nah, conservation of Something has always been part of F1

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Not to this degree I Don't think

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And the batteries struggling with (what used to be) normal deployment adds a whole new avenue for one driver to out-drive another.
It just sounds like they've fucked up when picking a battery capacity

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Audi had to lift off all of last corner at Bahrain to have enough power to make it through the straight

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And they still ran out of battery

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Similar issue to the overweight cars of 2022

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Yeah, I do think they needed far higher capacity batteries this season

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Maybe they should make that a development avenue... Batteries must be an X size, and the motor must be of Y power, but the capacity of the battery is unlimited

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That's a good way to remedy this

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Perhaps they could apply this regulation revision mid season for 2026 too

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Oh it's slightly more complex.
The batteries are not a shared component, but their capacity is limited. It is bigger than last year, but the amount of energy regenerated per lap is also regulated (insane decision), and up to 9, from 4, megajoules.
I think first to get chopped should be a limit to how much energy can be harvested per lap.

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You could follow FE and allow regeneration at a higher rate than deployment, but F1 won't want to risk time penalties for the relatively invisible crimes of overpower, that FE has suffered from

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Lmao the Guido gif

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Fernando Alonso

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I have honestly no idea how this even happened

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The gearbox found a gear that not even lorries can find

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Like let's genuinely be honest here, how the hell did Aston fall this far down the order?

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Engine problems aside, and the compromised aero, and now a faulty gearbox for some unspeakable reason

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Aston even at their worst in 2024 or 2025 were bottom of mid-field

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How the hell did their new budget lead them so astray

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If this is what 2026 is gonna be like, I genuinely can't see the Newey nor the Honda deal staying for long

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Cause this is a level of failure even beyond the 2015 McLaren

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The 2015 McLaren at least didn't have compromised aero

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i dont know if its just as big

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its way easier to fix a completely shit gearbox than a completely trash engine

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this new engine is bad but its not 2015 bad

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We genuinely don't know that

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Something tells me that neither Stroll nor Fernando were overstating their off the pace time

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So they have a poor engine, have compromised Newey's design to cool it and it still is having issues

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And a gearbox which is not cooperating

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Something is telling me the most bought and sold team on the F1 paddock is up for another rebrand in 2027

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Honda is royally fucked

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Not as fucked as me

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yeah its utterly fucked

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they are running a ground-effect like floor lmao

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redbull have given him a lot of testing time

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thats good

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I don’t want to jinx it or be miserable but I think it’s calculated sandbagging from Mercedes

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It already got the FIA to allow their engine trick until August

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THey'll probably be as bad as Super Aguri however

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Nice looking liveries though

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Why do fast teams have bad liveries more often than not
And backmarkers have cool liveries

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also, 107% got flagged in 2023 too but those guys were allowed to race

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Jaguar, Toyota, Super Aguri, Spyker, HRT, Lotus/Caterham, Haas, Alpine

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2010 HRT

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2011 HRT

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2010 HRT was a nice look

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and finally 2012

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never was a fan of their 2011 and 2012 look however

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i loved the 2011 just cause they were that sponsorless and broke they put "your name here" on the side of the car to try and get some

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Indeed

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It was innocent enough to be cute

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Plus them being white and red made them look like Super aguri

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probably the most stylish F1 team

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"cool spot"

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Poor HRT

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They got really ass fucked by the circumstances

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imagine that being Daniel ricciardo's debut car

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Indeed, nobody would have ever thought

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As does nobody ever think Esetban Ocon came from a Manor

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Everyone seems generally calm and positive

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Even Fernando

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I don't think 2026 will have a perennial backmarker team as such like we did in 2024 or 2025

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But Aston and Williams and Audi seem to be the ones most struggling with teething issues

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I don't count Cadillac cause being their first season, even if they are backmarkers, we kind of expect it anyhow

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Man this looks so cool. I love that you actually gave each unique parts to better match the look of the real car. It feels super cool. And they'e reall so pain stakingly accurate
Seeing all of these teams and how evolved with time, it's a good feeling

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Also you putting that Minardi places its never been lol

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Must be said, this GT300 Mother chassis BRZ was shockingly difficult to drive. But man was it fun once I got a hang of it. Around imola, almost anything feels trecherous to drive

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i dont know how it is in this particular AC mod

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but its one of my favorite cars to drive in GT7

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its insane in low speed tracks

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It was fast, but it was also set up wrong by default. With way too much brake bias towards the front, it wanted to killl me around nearly every corner. OF course, not as much as the Prost later tried to

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But once I did fix the tuning myself, it drove really nicely. it still tried to kill me any chance it got, but it was the good kind of aggressive. With a bit of paitence, I managaed to find my balance with it. it handles almost nothing like any previous GT car I've driven that's for sure

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cause the GT7 model is flawless id

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like slower power wise but insanely light and nimble

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Around Imola, I found it quite challenging

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it'd probably be easier around somewhere like Silverstone

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AC doesn't have any Japanese circuits by default, and kind of am glad for it

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I wouldn't wanna take this to Suzuka for my first experience with it

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Ended up taking it to where Senna died instead lol

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So it's most likely a model rip from GT7, and given that it is the only BRZ GT300, the new one I mean, I assume it's a model rip

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I think the model itself is fine, it's just that the reflections are working a bit odd

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I make it work with my photos anyway

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# granite tangle its insane in low speed tracks

Honestly this car makes me amazed at Super GT as a whole
it's a really impressive racing series, making mostly silhouette race cars with still the main body being an unmodified version of a road car, and making sure they're faster than any other existing GT class, and only slightly behind LMPs
I think a LMP2 Oreca 07 would go around a circuit with shorrter straights at a similar time to the GT500 cars

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its what DTM used to be before they changed to standard GT3

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actually in GT7 the GT500 cars and the DTM cars are under the same class

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as well as some old prototypes

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Gr.2 is a very weird class in that sense

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DTM and Super GT, in order to reduce costs and keep the racing series going, and also have a chance for an equal dream racr crossover scenario

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Decided to collaborate and make a new regulation set by the name of Class 1

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DTM got disbanded of that eventually but Super GT has kept it going and doesn't seem to show any signs of stopping

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This a corner GT developers brought themselves into

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it was never gonna work

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GR.4 and GR.3 are copycats of GT4 and GT3, so it can be managed especially when majority of the cars in the classes are cars in those classes

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But then GR.1 and GR.2 have no logic behind them

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Just whatever fits the performance bracket, which may i add is completely pointless because none of the cars are equal, they need a BoP applied

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I figured you would given how much you've talked about these blue Ligiers lately

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I already can't wait to see what you think of the 2003 grid I'm creating because I'm one car away from completing it

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(it's the minardi again)

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2003 would be
Toyota, Renault, Jaguar, BAR, Ferrari, McLaren, Minardi, Sauber, Williams, Jordan

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See I do this thing where every season I create, I join the slowest team and pick the teammate I want most

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I'll go through every season I create at least once and then see what I can do with faster cars

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You saw I joined Jordan in the 1993 season and picked Rubens Barrichello as my teammate

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For 1996 it's Minardi with Giancarlo Fisichella

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For 2003 it's Minardi again with Jos Verstappen

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For 2009 it's Toro Rosso with Sebastian Bourdais (still don't know if I'm spelling it right)

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And finally for 2012 it's Caterham with Heikki Kovalainen

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Every F1 mod pack I get

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First car I drive? A backmarker lol

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With 2000 pack it was the Prost

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With 2006 pack it was the midlands and Super aguri

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With 2008 pack it was force india

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Tied with a few other teams that didn't make it into the grid because GT7 custom races only allow for 20 cars

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Damn, a shame cause the car looked good

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I just realized something

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Does rhe cureent upcoming 2026 onwards regulation of cars actually have a name to go by?

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I mean we had Hybrid era, Hybrid wide era, Ground effect era, what's now?

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Not a single race has started yet so highly unlikely

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I'll keep my hopes up and call it the "finally we can race at Monaco again" era

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wow i didnt know this forum existed damn

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Hehehe

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I love this forum

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Probably the most active part of this server for me

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@severe spindle you might like this

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She really was the Queen of the Nordschleife

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She was a really important person and properly fast too

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To have a corner and especially the first corner of a track named after you is a huge achievement in the nordsleife

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It's not just that her name was on it

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But rather just how well she understood that circuit

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Almost every driver understands a circuit once they go around it enough

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But the Nordschleife is worth 10 racing circuits glued together, even remembering corners is a heavy ask

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I think she drove it for 40 years almost every single day

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Yet she did it, she made it look completely trivially easy

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From 16-17 years old she would

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She never even had that big of a career in motorsport

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It never worked out

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May she rest in peace truly no one knew the track like her

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But she made her name around that circuit like no one else

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Absolutely, nobody could

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And every person that has met her only has the most beautiful words for her demeanor

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I wouldn't even dare the circuit anymore, I feel too old and withered for a circuit like the A1 Ring let alone that

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She was incredibly loved

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Whereas others are either playboys, written in controversy or show up in Epstien files

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She was just that, a Queen of a circuit

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She was just something else

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I do wish she was still around

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She went away way too early

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ok so

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yuki was doing a demo run in a red bull

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in san francisco
usual pr shit

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car caught fire

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Whys he aura farming

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That is some crazy fire

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God does not like the pookie

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Indeed, what a shame

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Apparently lando norris broke up with his girlfriend

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hopefully the depression makes him slow

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hehehe

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It's especially funny because Lando's girlfriend was probably the most used girlfriend of the paddock for when they focused on them instead of the race

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Now they will need to direct it to someone else's girlfriend

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kim k is now an option so

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allegedly