hahahah way to go kimi
#Motorsports
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That's some impressive stuff
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God this is so cool
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Bit of a throwback to lemans this year
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Nice attention to detail to running the no chicane layout for this era
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Pfffft
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Nice attention to detail to running the no chicane layout for this era
I never thought they ran Canada that far back
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I never thought they ran Canada that far back
That layout is Barcelona
Montreal is very distinct, you have a lot of walls, and most of the runoffs are grass
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Montreal is very distinct, you have a lot of walls, and most of the runoffs are ...
Yeah I embaressed myself a bit
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Don’t worry about it
What I was talking about is the chicane in the last sector in Barcelona
Introduced in 2007, removed in 2023
It was unpopular, and made the track shit for overtakes
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Now it’s back to being a pretty decent fan favorite track
And it’s a great track to test a car
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I've only ever driven around it in games which had the chicnae
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Because it has all kinds of corners and a decent straight
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The circuit I always really liked
But I really never understood that final chicane
it's way too slow
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I've only ever driven around it in games which had the chicnae
Yeah it’s not there in f1 25, also gran turismo has kept both layouts
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I am glad they have both
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But I really never understood that final chicane
Yeah it was shite
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The chicane is fun in other classes, terrible for f1
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I remember in F1 Challenge 99-02 where it wasn't there either
Yeah very true
Oh speaking of that
I never knew one thing
You know Albert park?
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It’s crazy how different each grade 1 track feels when you get to play it with GT3 vs F1
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Apparently the chicane at the start of sector 2 got removed post 2021 or something
I have driven the circuit in only F1 Challenge and F1 2020, so I have gotren used to there being a chicane
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Some corners you’d feel scared to go fast in a GT3 car feel like straights in f1
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You know Albert park?
Yeah Australia, it’s another fan favorite
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Hahaha, and vice versa honestly
After driving F1 cars so frequently lately, I feel like driving anything fast around any circuit is gonna be so much less stressful
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And true driving without the chicane will feel weird to you at first
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An F1 driver in anything will feel at ease
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After 2020 F1 started this campaign to change some circuits to have more overtaking
To be honest it would be successful if they didn’t make ground effect cars so fa
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And true driving without the chicane will feel weird to you at first
It's kind of ridiculous honestly, cause it gives the circuit 4 freaking DRS zones
Some tracks on the F1 calender may not even have 1 DRS zone lol
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We will reap the results with the new generation I guess
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Indeed we will
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Even if the power ends up disappointing
The cornering will probably be better to watch
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It's kind of ridiculous honestly, cause it gives the circuit 4 freaking DRS zone...
Yeah it’s impossible to overtake in Hungary with so much dirty air and just 1 Drs zone for example
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Alot more overtakes on Monaco and Singapore that's for sure
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Monaco will be as hard as it was even 30 years ago, but we will probably get 1 or 2 odd overtakes
I just hope they get rid of that fuckass mandatory 2 stop rule
It’s in the game as well
So fucking annoying
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Yeah it’s impossible to overtake in Hungary with so much dirty air and just 1 Dr...
Yeah honestly I am surprised that Hungary has stayed on the F1 Calendar for as long as it has
It never seemed particularly popular, and for a big period the cars around it drove badly
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Hungary should stay forever
Do you know why mini
It’s the cheapest track to visit for a race week
That means us peasants can go and have decent fun from FP1 to the race for less than you’d pay for half a day in most tracks
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Oooooh
Fair enough, I never thought it was the cheapest on the calender
Go Hungary
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Logistically it is the cheapest
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To be honest I do like the circuit, but my god is it demanding
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Spa is also very fairly priced
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I think I can see why Spa and Hungaroring are so cheap
They are literally just circuits lol
They weren't built to show off
They weren't built to make history
They weren't built to host billion dollar facilities or grandstands
Most of the grand stands are just patches of dirt
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That is true but also because they have some really nice hills people can sit on with their little umbrellas for the sun or raincoats in the wet and watch the race
You dodge the price of having to pay for a grandstand, and you probably get a better view too
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And get alot more flexibility too
And this year it allowed the wacthers to get a better veiw of Charles' mental breakdown
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Yeah it’s basically half the track they tell you that’s your ticket pick a spot in the field lol
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Hehehe
Perfect
Perfect for camping too
Check out Games by the way
We got good results at Bahrain
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Yeah the tickets are so affordable that for me I lowkey am starting to think about going next year. We will see
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It's the cheapest venue for you too
I think it's the closest flight you'd need to take
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The tickets aren’t too bad yep
For people in Asian countries Suzuka would be the best deal
And what a great track to visit
But for us on the other side of the globe that is a pipe dream
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Indeed, especially for me
I mean technically abu dabi and bahrain are very close to me
Same as Azerbaijan
But my economy is so bad I could never afford to fly there and also buy tickets to watch a F1 race
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I mean technically abu dabi and bahrain are very close to me
you could probably get away with visiting jeddah then, not too expensive
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hahahahha
insane slander name
i love it
im repping all the boys next year
lawson is a terrorist as well
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you could probably get away with visiting jeddah then, not too expensive
Hmm... I still am not sure
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Nice attention to detail to running the no chicane layout for this era
I loved making this race and I loved driving in it
I'll be doing one in Montreal today since I ran out of time last night
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Pffft
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here's something I wonder
Out of all the driver academies for F1 teams
Ferrari's, Red Bull's, Mercedes', Renault's and Mclaren's
Is Red Bull's truly the best one to apply for?
Part of why I ask this, is because Red Bull is generally said to be the best Academy given how generally capable all of the Red Bull drivers have always been
A large chunk of the current driver cast are themselves from that academy even if they race under different teams from Red Bull's teams now
It's also said to be the best one due to the fact that it's more garantueed to be able to get a seat with Red Bull's academy given they are more in-control of their two teams as they're both theirs
While with Ferrari, it's not so easy to get assured seats with Haas and Sauber
And the same with Mercedes, with Williams and Aston Martin
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The worst academy is probably McLaren
That’s because of contract drama revolving McLaren and drivers like palou or dunne etc
But McLaren will get you into invicta in F2 which is the best car on the grid (bortoleto was McLaren and in invicta -> f2 champion)
Redbull has 2 teams on the grid, maybe equal amount of contract drama and gets you into campos which is the closest with invicta in f2
Personally I’d say redbull has the overall advantage
Ferrari and Mercedes have more teams they can get you in, or no teams to get you in
That fluctuates year to year so it really depends with them
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Additional thing with the Ferrari and Red Bull academies. Make sure your mental health is rock solid
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@granite tangle
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That fluctuates year to year so it really depends with them
Taht definitely creates problems of its own
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Additional thing with the Ferrari and Red Bull academies. Make sure your mental ...
If you go with Ferrari Academy, make sure you don't join Ferrari themselves lol
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"You can take a team out of the midfield, but you can't take the midfield out of a team"
Gotta be up there in terms of great F1 analogies
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X
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i do hope Alpine dusts McLaren next year and Stoffel Vandoorne drop kicks Phat Browns fat ass
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It’s not looking too good
The Mercedes PU might carry them
All I hear about RB are chassis rumors and nothing on the engine
Probably means the engine is gonna be shite
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X
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i do hope Alpine dusts McLaren next year and Stoffel Vandoorne drop kicks Phat B...
God I hope that's the case
Never liked Mclaren personally
And they've proven recently why that should remain the case
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Probably means the engine is gonna be shite
Would have been weird if it wasn't
Being their own in house engin for the first time
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https://x.com/Motorsqorts/status/2000246304661029274?s=20 <@293122066805293057>
Surely this is a joke
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The Mercedes PU might carry them
If Mercedes PU can push the Williams shitbox into podium, something alpine was able to do on their own before anyway, it'll work
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Surely this is a joke
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https://www.vxinstagram.com/reel/DSRSts4jO_N/?igsh=MTFlNGpwbnV5d3dieQ==
He's called Zak Brown cause he's leaving brown wherever he goes
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Oh lol
I didn't notice rhe Q instead of P
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https://www.vxinstagram.com/reel/DSRSts4jO_N/?igsh=MTFlNGpwbnV5d3dieQ==
By the way is this real
Cause I genuinely don't think anyone would dare talk like that openly
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Cause I genuinely don't think anyone would dare talk like that openly
oh it is, from snack brown's wcc trophy acceptance speech
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oh it is, from snack brown's wcc trophy acceptance speech
Unacceptable
Truly he's a disaster
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https://x.com/Motorsqorts/status/2000246304661029274?s=20 <@293122066805293057>
nearly had me
nearly
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hahahha
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oh it is, from snack brown's wcc trophy acceptance speech
Stoffel Vandoorne caught some strays too for no reason
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using your acceptance speech to shit on others is definitely a choice
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Shit on a driver you had in your academy and actually ran in f1 for 2 years is another choice
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oh rick posted a new video
thats what got mini talking
imma watch that hes got good content
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using your acceptance speech to shit on others is definitely a choice
It's unreal
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imma watch that hes got good content
Indeed, it was a good watch at the uni waiting between classes
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Pffft
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Didn't take long, but a large Chinese car group has announced they're going to Le Mans.
Exeed, owned by Chery, has signed a 5 year "we're gonna do it" agreement with the ACO, which includes entering the ALMS (don't know which category). Best of all, the ACO and Chery are going to part fund a Le Mans series grade track being built in Wuhu in China.
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OOoooh
Well damn
Possible team and also a possible track
That is pretty damn good
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Didn't take long, but a large Chinese car group has announced they're going to L...
wuhu island???
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Possibly
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Possible team and also a possible track
And car?? Maybe.
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And car?? Maybe.
That'd be even cooler
Both the Hyundai and now a Chinese upcoming LM car
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I can't find a class announcement, so it could be HyperCar, whatever LMP2 gets up to, engine manufacturing for LMP2, or GT3
I'm hoping GT3
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LMH definitely seem slike a likely move
Given it wouldn't require them to make production variants for homolgation
So there's that
But a new face in GT3 would be great too
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There's also the element of who they want to appear as. Is Exeed a name for sports cars, or ultra high end hypercar...
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I mean if Peugeot is taken into account
Who makes tiny cars
Then I doubt the name matters that much
If they are serious about establishing themselves however, they'll need some idenitty
This is related to the fact that Mclaren had an official collab with Sonic recently
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Peugeot is a titan of Motorsport though... They've been doing it so long now it's normal. Maybe Exeed will be so normal to see selling relatively normal premium family cars while competing for outright Le Mans wins, in 50 years.
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That's the thing
Peugeot is acceptable cause they've been around for so long
Exeed had no legacy
Hence they need to make one as they move along
Easiest way to do this would be to gain success
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peugeot stood out in wec with their extremely unique and beautiful hypercar
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Which is the hardest thing for a new comer
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it instantly became a fan favorite/collectively liked
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But regulations later changed that
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Peugeot has huge history in Motorsport though, even in their early days
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i am not going to argue that, but people tend to generally judge the books from the covers
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They also were for the longest time one of the best car makers ever
Enzo drove Peugeots and never his own cars
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if their car was ugly people wouldnt really give two shits about history
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That's also true
While with motorsports we agree that function is above form
We also always prefer F1 cars which look good
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speaking of ugly
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Coincidentally, all successful race cars always looked good
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FIA announced that they will allow full covers for 2026 after all
fuck that shite
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Full covers?
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A win for efficiency
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a loss for eyes
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Wheel covers, right?
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Oh for fuck sake
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yeah it was supposed to be first bare rims or optional covers with a mandated depth
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Why are we still doing Hubcaps man
I hate hubcaps
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I like the silly McLaren Google spinny thing, and I don't even notice the rest
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but now its optional covers that can cover the wheel entirely
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I like the silly McLaren Google spinny thing, and I don't even notice the rest
the google, and the gambling roulette on williams are the only good looking ones
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Just saying
If bernie was in charge , he'd say "no covers" and that'd be the end of it
No toto cocksucker could talk him out of it
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teams didnt press for them tbf
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I literally couldn't tell you what they look like, they're so unnoticed by me
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im just salty because the rims are hidden and f1 rims are beautiful
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teams didnt press for them tbf
Even worse then
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I prefer F1 cars which don't shatter on impact
Than f1 cars which are so.tightly packaged they need fucking hubcaps to function
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F1 rims... Look like completely normal Motorsport wheels to me
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Than f1 cars which are so.tightly packaged they need fucking hubcaps to function
they can function without them. This is proven by the fact the covers are optional
but you 99.9% wont see teams running bare rims after testing
maybe theres a chance in testing
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they can function without them. This is proven by the fact the covers are option...
Optional and yet nobody drives without them
Because there's no point to not use them
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Aero. Efficiency. F1 is a range anxiety sport they won't throw away free meters of driving for the aesthetics
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Tweetman
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Yes
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F1 is alll about aesthetics lol
Nobody cares about technicals of F1
Hence why everyone hated 2014
If we cared about technicals all cars would be carbon black
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The fia and the fans care about aesthetics. The car designers do not give a shit
They will DEMAND the aero covers
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Well too bad
They're not there to test car
They're there to put on a show
That's their only purpose
They're all retards if you ask me
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It is more than one thing
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It's fine anyway
I don't care that much about hubcaps
All I care about is the grid being shaken up
I don't wanna see Mercedes, Red Bull or Mclaren fronting the grid for 2026
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i cant help but agree with both of you
f1 is a tech fanfare, manufacturers participate to be able to create cutting edge tech, test it and eventually ship it into roadgoing cars
fans like to see cool cars go around, thats what brings them in
the better looking they are, the more likely they are to get attracted to it
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Indeed
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cant have f1 without tech, cant have it without fans either
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It's a compromise to achieve
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at the end of the day if we can see these cars go side by side properly next year, wheel caps or not that will already be a massive improvement
if it sucks, see you 2028
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Hehe..
The worst part?
There was a way easier solution to all this than what they're doing to hopefully achieve those results
Just reset regulations back to 2005
Cheaper, more competitive and far more interesting
But I guess that'd just go agasint the point of the sport
Weird how camera crunchiness makes things look better
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You can’t revert
Half the manufacturers are in because they are interested in making hybrids
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Such is the state of the world
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What we could have is a V8 hybrid era
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The world was in a far better place back in early 2000s late 90s
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What we could have is a V8 hybrid era
Never made sense to me why we got rid of V8s
The V6s are just such a weird choice when the cars get bigger and the engines physically get snaller
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Idk man hybrids ain’t so bad
Not particularly soulful however
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How so, not every hybrid is a Prius, or only uses the motor as a generator
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Yet all F1 hybrid engines sound like generators
Hybrids are by design not exciting to listen to
I don't hate them
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But they're inferior and will always be
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The big 3 of Hypercars were the P1 918 and Laferrari
And the cool hybrids died with them
Nothing came close since
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I think there’s a lot of room for V8 hybrids in the future to make sports cars and supercars both fun and frugal when you need to drive them boringly
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I don't understand it frankly
Realistically you can make anything into a hybrid
You can have a Hybrid V12
So why we only doing hybrid V8s is beyond me
Engineers lazing off I guess
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Alpine has shown interest in offering their A110 in hybrid as well
The A110 is a marvelous car
Supercar looks, for a fraction of the price
And some of the best handling on the market
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The sequel to the A110 is gonna be all electric so no real point there
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And some of the best handling on the market
I'm kind of lost as to how thats relevant to the conversation
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Its a platform that can be a hybrid
If you can only have hybrid or fully electric
I’m sure you can put 1 and 1 together to make 2
Unless you discover time travel that’s how the world is spinning right now
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No real.point given costs to make separate platforms
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Unless you discover time travel that’s how the world is spinning right now
Doesn't mean we have to.be happy about it
Nothing modern interests me particularly as much as older stuff do
And we're all the same
There's a several lack of the "it" factor
Everything feels very bland
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Idk man I’ll tell you if I get that crz
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Trust me, mini, electric motors are great fun
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I don't get what side of bed you woke up.on today to decide to disagree with me on everything to irritate me
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I had an exam today and I'm a bit drunkk
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Trust me, mini, electric motors are great fun
You're the last person who's allowed to have an opinion on this given your massive retarded bias
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I don’t think I disagreed too many times with you
Apart from thinking hybrids aren’t shit
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Hybrids aren't shit
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You're the last person who's allowed to have an opinion on this given your massi...
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But they're not "the shit" either
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Well sadly it’s the shit we can apply to the real world though
So we make a lemonade with our lemons
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I jyat don't understand
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Lmao my exam was electric motors today I actually did so well haha
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Why you are so in favor of putting big engines away
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Anyways, I just get so annoyed that so few car companies even TRIED to make fun hybrids.
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Why you are so in favor of putting big engines away
I'm not! I'm in favour of adding electric motors
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I am not personally, I just know big engines past 8 cylinders are dying because of weight and hardship of development
You can make a hybrid v something go as fast with a fraction of the cost
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I'm not! I'm in favour of adding electric motors
We can't have either then..
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You can make a hybrid v something go as fast with a fraction of the cost
And none of the character it seems
Unless its a holy trinity cat
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I would love a Ferrari 296
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Running the Ami was so eye opening to what makes a car fun to drive, and full of character
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I give up...
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I would love a Ferrari 296
Anything would.be good at this point
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I’ve not been interested in a Ferrari since the 458
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No one has TRIED making the fun EV yet, and only Chevrolet and Ferrari seem to have nailed the fun hybrids
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Before that the 430
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430 my beloved
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That’s how much I like the 296, and it’s beautiful GT3 counterpart
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I don’t think it’s missing any character by being a V6
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I don’t think it’s missing any character by being a V6
Its a Ferrari, that's why
It's designed by people who don't put away expenses
Sadly that's where the positives end
Because you can't have a modern Ferrari without stupid options
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Rich people want dumb things
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I just remember time when people were calling gallardos fake lambos for being V10 and not V12
It’ll grow on people
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Rich people want dumb things
And it pushes us further away from the envelope of ever getting them
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It’ll grow on people
Oh that was a different time
Nothing like now
People nowadays are surprised when a company doesn't downsize
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F1 derived V6 Hybrid is cool no matter how you put it, I’d rather that over them putting the same engine as 10 years ago
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Like Toyota who went balls out big V8 with the GR GT
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Cause if they put that engine in, I would just go “buy” a 458
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That's why I like the F80. The V12 is utterly irrelevant to Ferrari as a motorsports group.
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Obviously I can’t buy either
But the logic is that you need to bring something new alongside looks to define a new generation
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The F80 is a successor to the F40
Which is a road going race car
Hence the F80 is a road going 499P
That was the intention
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The F50 also had a very race related engine
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The F50 was a race car
It was a F1 car infact
Had a F1 engine
And the Enzo as well
Only car which broke the tradition was the LaFerrari
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Then the Enzo dived deep into high grade aerodynamics and stuff, trick gearboxes... It's a shame that car never raced
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Only car which broke the tradition was the LaFerrari
The hybrid stuff was still f1, just not the engine
The engine was classic Ferrari
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Hybridisation in the name of making a car faster and more fun... It's almost like doing that well was the special sauce that should have defined sports cars for the last DECADE and only Chevrolet really nailed a smash hit
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Then the Enzo dived deep into high grade aerodynamics and stuff, trick gearboxes...
That car + Michael had me looking at it as a kid in a way I’ll never look at anything like ever again
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Hybridisation in the name of making a car faster and more fun... It's almost lik...
I don't know
Faster yes
More fun
I don't know
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The response off an electric motor in a car... That is everything celebrated about Nom turbo engines, but FASTER and sharper and more precise. If you can't imagine a sharper more precise throttle being able to make a great car more fun... Idk man
And my frame of reference for this is the stupid belt drive reduction gearboxed Citroen Ami, that thing is neither precise nor sharp, by EV standards, and it smokes the throttle of every ultra revvy engine I've ever driven
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Guess you're objectively right then
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Have you ever ridden a good e bike? Or even one of those stupid scooters?
You get a quick laugh off a 250W motor,
But you keep adding watts and it just gets even more fun
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Have you ever ridden a good e bike? Or even one of those stupid scooters?
I've never been on an electric vehicle of any kind as far as I tecall
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They're so funnyyyyy
The torque!!! It's just THERE in a way a petrol engine can't do
That's why I'm mad about the lack of a hybrid GTR, or many Hybrid Hot Hatches.. it would add so much fun
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I can imagine
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That's why I'm mad about the lack of a hybrid GTR, or many Hybrid Hot Hatches.. ...
You won't have to be mad
You know what's bad
The fact that I'll probably never be able to experience any of these
And so I'll remain ignorant..
Why do I even act like I know anything
I only ever driven these cars anyway
One thing I notice going from driving the modern 2020 F1 cars to the 1998 Mclaren is the sheer lack of grip on the latter
I used the 98 Mclaren because I've played F1 challenge a decent bit
So it's a good point of reference
The older cars are far lighter however and very very chuckable
And much easier to get around circuits with technical slow bits that the newer cars are too big for
But the lack of grip makes them nigh impossible to drive fast through any sort of corner
Definitely makes me wonder what a mixture of old and new F1 cars would be like
A foolish idea as always by me
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W man
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Well damn
That's some rare good news in F1
Not even a street circuit but rather the actual old Circuit
Also, I've noticed something after having read the Reddit regarding how the difficulty system in F1 games work
Essentially, every single point you add to the AI makes them faster by around 0.1 second
I'll need to check their minimum pace on qualifying around certain circuits to be able to get a good estimate of what difficulty would be a good general balance to hit
Not counting Monaco, Monaco needs its own separate testing
People on reddit say that most circuits are generally best competitive at 95 difficulty
And Monaco needs to be at 60 or something
Having gotten some hard fought podiums in the Racing Point, it definitely seems like it is indeed 95 for the most optimum experience
With ABS and medium TC of course
Shocking just how much the lack of TC makes these cars near uncontrollable
Makes me further respect real life F1 drivers who can keep on top of so much at once
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https://vxtwitter.com/verstappenews/status/2000884908978528347?s=20
caught in slowmo
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Ey merchedes
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https://x.com/maxvcalloway/status/2000929361676132750?s=20he also took the emil frey 296 for a spin
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is he buying cars or is he having fun 😭
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I don't think any of these are his actual cars
but rather the various Red Bull sponsored GT3 teams' cars
Will say, the designs do appear to be distinct to him, so maybe these are all catered for him
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I don't think any of these are his actual cars
verstappen.com rents the 296 from emil frey racing for GT World Challenge and DTM
the aston i think is what hes looking to replace with the mercedes
the livery you see isnt the redbull livery but rather the verstappen.com livery
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the livery you see isnt the redbull livery but rather the verstappen.com livery
Hmm.. interesting, so these two are indeed theirs, while the 296 wasn't
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the merc might be their new car
aston maybe will get sold off to another privateer
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I do wonder why he chose the Mercedes
The Ferrari seemed to suit his needs far better
Or hell, I'd have expected him to get the Ford to please their new ford contracts
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Then... what is he gonna use it for
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and the AMG is like one of the most renowed and dominant GT3 chassis for an incredible amount of time now
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Then... what is he gonna use it for
he is going to field 2 new drivers with it in those 2 championships
while his drivers that were on the ferrari will stay on the ferrari
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he has lowkey been a team owner for the past year
with the exception he drove the NLS
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What was the point of getting his GT3 license then
if he's just gonna be the team ownerr
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all other events on the calendar hes sending sim racers hes scouted to give them a chance in the real world
just like lulham, his teammate in the NLS who he found on iracing
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Guess he's just saying that he's washed
And so he's going aside to give way to rookies
Max always likes to support rookies
Welp, guess that's what it is then
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Taht's it?
i dont think redbull f1 will alow him any more than that
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I thought he was frankly gonna continue his racing endevours into Hypercars and such
Not go aside like this
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i dont think redbull f1 will alow him any more than that
The Red Bull F1 team owes everything to him
Max can do as he pleases
That's his team, no Marko's or whoerver's
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he had to beg helmut to do the NLS and the N24 next year, and helmut aint there anymore to do him any favors
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Welp, guess Motorsport is quite boring
That you can't have one driver take part in many other series
I mean remember drivers like Jim Clark or Mansell who basically flew around doing different things all the time?
Guess times have changed
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the more competitive the f1 car is the less youll see a driver do
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I mean remember drivers like Jim Clark or Mansell who basically flew around doin...
an f1 season then was basically 1/3 in length compared to now
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that's true too
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a shame
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even alonso when he won lemans he wasnt racing in f1
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as is natural
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as is natural
I don't know
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The last active driver to win le mans you ask?
Mr huuuuuuulkenberg
It's kind of funny
But also kind of sad
It shows that there are opporuntities for race car drivers outside of F1
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X
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Lmfao
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https://x.com/ThisIsFormu1a1/status/2000769462015004807?s=20
Should be good
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https://x.com/racepluscom/status/2000977294316462405?s=20
So the alpine rumors weren't rumors
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Lmfao
it's not actually that unthinkable
Red Bull was a joke before Horner joined them
So if his presence turned them around in such a way, it could make Alpine into a similar story
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He was head of RBR the whole way through.
Clearly helped them get to success... But is he really the face you want for your team, after everything he's been accused of 😬
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That is a good point
But let's be real
if a Team princpial isn't controversial, are they even there anymore? Cause almost all TPs have some controversy behind them
And if Briatore is there, then I don't know what Horner could even do anymore
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He was head of RBR the whole way through.
Was he? my bad then
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Yeah Flavio shouldn't have been allowed back but oh well what do I know about a lifetime ban hahaha
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https://x.com/Aperta/status/2001013470125572148?s=20 @severe spindle max might be able to do the whole NLS after all
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since hes in talks with that team makes even more sense that he'd suddenly test a mercedes
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Yeah Flavio shouldn't have been allowed back but oh well what do I know about a ...
hahaha
Indeed
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https://x.com/MV33Racing/status/2001003195984929141?s=20
So that's what it was lol
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https://x.com/Aperta/status/2001013470125572148?s=20 <@383153734873645056> max m...
That'd be quite good to see
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Wait, this is actual James Vowles racing?
I didn't know he raced as well as team principal'ed
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Wait, this is actual James Vowles racing?
yeah he did the Gulf 12H
endurance race hosted by a huge sponsor of williams
so it makes sense he would participate, but he and his team also won in their class
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That is quite impressive honestly
Never thought I'd see a team prinicapl actually race
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It's no joke just how much faster the F1 cars have become
To the point where even when losing over 30 KMH worth of straight line speed, the SF25 was only 4 seconds slower than the F2004
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thats pretty much on the tires, when old f1 cars became too fast they immediately stopped the slicks
thats why you see records still being held by the likes of the F2004
and not any for well over 10 years worth of f1 cars after it
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thats pretty much on the tires, when old f1 cars became too fast they immediatel...
Stopped the slicks? What do you mean
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thats why you see records still being held by the likes of the F2004
But how? Modern cars are alot faster
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But how? Modern cars are alot faster
max and lando only this year beat MSC's record with the F2004 in monza
max has the record but lando also beat it in qualifying before max got pole
it took 2025 cars and brand new tarmac to beat it
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Stopped the slicks? What do you mean
in the mid 2000s F1 left pirelli slicks and went with grooved tires from bridgestone, michelin
those tires were much much slower
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yeah exactly hence they just now are beating those old cars year by year
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Hmm..
Fair enough, so F1 cars only recently begun to get faster than they used to be
From 2020s onwards
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the new generation seems closer to philosophy with those old cars
we'll be getting big straightline speed and quite slower cornering
comparing the peak of ground effect vs the beginning of 2026 the estimate is that they will only be 3% slower on average
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Which should lead to good lap records depending on tracks
It's rather odd frankly where F1 cars became "too fast"
I kind of thought the point was to get faster and faster
In fairness, post F2004 F1 cars all became alot faster in the corners
And also alot safer
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in the mid 2000s F1 left pirelli slicks and went with grooved tires from bridges...
I believe the reason they left the Pirellis behind was due to the 2005 Indianapolis incident right?
Where the tires would burst out on the final banking
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When I was doing testing on F1 2020 to get to see how fast each car was, I discovered that these were the times I was able to do
Red Bull: 1:18.016
Mercedes: 1:18.101
Racing Point: 1:18.219
Renault: 1:18.789
Mclaren: 1:19.122
Ferrari: 1:19.193
Alphatauri: 1:19.196
Haas: 1:19.387
Alfa Romeo: 1:19.666
Williams: 1:19.848
These were all on Barcelona by the way
And it got me wondering, why is the Ferrari so slow
Then I checked F1 results in 2020, and Ferrari never scored a win that season, just 3 podiums
The whole car felt extremely understeery and unpleasant to drive
And the other Ferrari PU cars felt similarly understeery and poor around there
I wonder if F1 2020 season Ferrari was indeed that bad
Finished quite behind in constructors too
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wasnt it the SF1000 in 2020
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yes sir, it was
it was really that bad, im sure if @pale tinsel was here hed be willing to give a few funny stories on it
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Goddamn then
Poor Ferrari drivers
They can't be given title contender cars at all it seems
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it was really that bad, im sure if <@293122066805293057> was here hed be willing...
One thing I found out about was that F1 cars get allt faster every year
And so it means that every year the engineers have to try and extract more from a car
Sometimes it means maximising old year's car
And sometimes it means making a whole new one
So for example, as great as the SF-24 was in 2024, the SF-25 would run circles around it with its pace and speed
However, it's not just how much faster you get compared to last year's car, but how much better the competition gets
And for 2024, Mclaren, Red Bull and Mercedes were able to extract alot more from their 2024 designs make them faster than Ferrari could from 2024 to 2025
Honestly it's an unenviable job
Having to design something to fit within both regulations and also make it faster and better than last tome
Cause surely you'd think every team would just copy the last year winner's design
It's incredible how little is shared between cars from 2024 to 2025 and yet visually they look identical
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@pale tinsel it’s confirmed number 3 next year. Not 69 because Kelly said she didn’t like it 😭
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Pfft
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Ngl if Rosberg pulled a move like he did on Alonso today, he'd get a 10 second penalty
He literally pushed him offtrack
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https://x.com/Motorsqorts/status/2001562645795868931?s=20 <@293122066805293057>
Sounds like a misunderstanding tbh. 2026 design needs to be basically finalised because they need to build it
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Sounds like a misunderstanding tbh. 2026 design needs to be basically finalised ...
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Omg formula e just partnered with a new game for a race event in game
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And it's fucking Roblox!!! 😔
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That's not why we hate Roblox though
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we are eating so good
Mercedes AMG GT3, Ferrari 296 GT3, Audi R8 LMS GT3
X
NOOO 💔
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That's not why we hate Roblox though
Indeed much more reason for it
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https://vxtwitter.com/Aperta/status/2001671134203527637?s=20
This feels so cool
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Here's a question
Do any of the back marker or midfield teams realistically have a chance of ever moving up?
I mean the most famous example of a nothing team making something of itself with as little as possible is Williams
But could Haas or Sauber ever do the same?
The reason why backmarker teams turn up at all is because they want to get better constructors to get better prize money
No other sport where you get paid to lose
However, is this all these years need to resort to?
Could Haas ever truly get better than being a back marker team and actually become a competitor at the front?
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Could Haas ever truly get better than being a back marker team and actually beco...
haas is the perfect example of what CAN be made of a backmarket team
they are the smallest team on the grid, and private
but maybe in a couple of years Toyota might fully fund their F1 effort
and then yes, they will have a chance
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and then yes, they will have a chance
So this is what a team needs to truly be successful? Funding?
let's remember, Toyota's own massive funding didn't do them anything in F1
If Haas can pull a Force India and get better as it gets more budget, I sure hope it is the case
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Do any of the back marker or midfield teams realistically have a chance of ever ...
Every single rules change
McLaren were appalling not a very long time ago
P9 constructor, out of 10, in 2015
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McLaren were appalling not a very long time ago
Mclaren was never a backmarker team though
Only an exception and a msiatke led to that
A mid-field team getting to higher positions is one thing
but a backmarker team seems to be permanently a backmarker
Look at Sauber, they've never been mid-field
The one time they were was 2008
And that was the end of it
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It's tended to be a reflection of budget and resources. Sauber had that BMW money in 08, and McLaren has had continuous large investment for the F1 team.
So yeah, with good clarity of vision and huge investment, any team can move forwards.
Look at Stewart F1
Once upon a time a flop team, now spent the last decade as a top top team with the red bull money
If Toyota continues to pour money and resource into Haas, they will move forwards
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Stewart actually was always quite good
in 1999, they were good before they became Jaguar in 2000 and sucked for a long time
And Stewart had less budget than Jaguar did
This is the fact
You can't make a backmarker team a contender team
Sauber has always been a backmarker
Haas had exactly one decent season
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Sauber were a contender in 2008
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An exception that proved the rule
The car was good enough for one win
While Massa and Lewis were cleaning up everything else
BMW Sauber in 08 was a mid-field team
that's it
Top of the mid-field sure
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The points they scored suggest otherwise
Anyways, red bull spent the early years propping up the mid field
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And if there's any more proof that you can't seem to make a mid-field team into a contender either
Look at Jordan/Force India/Racing Point/Aston Martin
Why did Aston somehow worsen when it got more budget than Force India did
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Driver line up
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Aston had one good season, and still managed to lose out on P3
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Anyways, red bull spent the early years propping up the mid field
Because they actually had a goal
No other backmarker team seems to have such a goal
Williams pulled themselves out of a bad chapter
They always were top of the mid-field at least
But Haas was and forever will be a backmarker team, much like Toyota themselves used to be
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No other backmarker team seems to have such a goal
No one between then to now (with Audi) has had the continuous stable investment
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Then I ask, why are they even competiting
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And Haas got totally fucked over by the rich energy debacle
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if you're not there to actually win
Why do you even show up
If you don't have what it takes to win
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Big gene wants to be there
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We know for a fact Cadillac is just gonna be another Haas
A permanent backmarker Ferrari customer
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didnt ross brawn quite literally manage to make a WDC and WCC winning team with his own money and no sponsors just because they figured out the regs better
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Big gene wants to be there
yet with no intent of being up there it seems
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didnt ross brawn quite literally manage to make a WDC and WCC winning team with ...
Nope
Honda did
And screwed their 08 season over it
And that was luck, literally nothing else
Proven by how shit Mercedes were the next couple of seasons
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honda pulled out, and brawn didnt even use a honda engine, honda refused to help them
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The Brawn victory is as overexaggerated as it gets
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Honda could have had that champ if they'd stayed, that's the exception to the big long term support that helps a team move forward
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McLaren would have folded without that sovereign wealth fund that props it up
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Aston is pouring billions into its project
Yet it sucks ass still
Clearly money isn't a direct result maker
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aston literally hired the best of the best for next year
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So what the hell is going on
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at least wait to see what they do
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aston literally hired the best of the best for next year
Yet I somehow feel like that's not gonna go anywhere
With the horrible drivers they got
A washed 40 years old and someone who was washed when they began racing
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Alonso brings money through fans and sponsors and Lances dad owns the team... Who on earth do you let go from that pair?
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That's the issue
That's both the worst and tbe best options they'll ever have
When other teams have defined drivers who lead the team
Aston has not
Alosno gives horrible feedback
And Lance may as well not even be there
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Let's see what happens next year
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alonso if you ommit luck factors was arguably top 5 drivers 2025
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I think it'll be a big shake up. I predict we'll see a surprise team win at least once
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He's top 5 driver of the last two decades
But he's so washed now
He has no chance anymore
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i said in 2025
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He couldn't even hold onto p3 back in 2023
When he was leading p3 by a wide margin for most of it
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almost got pole in monaco 23
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And that was the only year he actually had a chance
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against the RB19
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he's mentally given up
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with 2 purple sectors
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I think it'll be a big shake up. I predict we'll see a surprise team win at leas...
I frankly don't think so
People like to say it'll be a big change
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It's massive
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but like... 2013 to 2014 wasn't really that big of a change
Sure a couple teams got shifted around
but the top teams still stayed at the top
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The very structure of how you build laptime is fundamentally changing (or F1 wants it to) so an awful lot can happen
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I won't hold out much hope
Far as I can, it'll just be either Mclaren dominating again
Ferrari continuing to suck
And Max winning a couple surprise races
And then we get to another artificial title fight
We know Audi, Caddilac and Haas will be backmarkers
And Alpine might move up the mid-field a bit
Because that's where they always were
It's not a massive change when the engines are still the same and the drivers the same as well
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Audi might move sauber a little forward compared to this year. Big money pouring in
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idk man rumours are saying audi is gonna move sauber up a lot more than little
they are spending spending
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I bet it'll be another racing point situation
Where the Aston money made them dominant in 2020
but when Aston rebrand came, disaster
Money isn't a result maker
Sadly
Sauber's best season was 2025 in recent times
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it is the primary moving factor
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idk man rumours are saying audi is gonna move sauber up a lot more than little
Bottom of mid-field is the best I am willing to bet
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Sauber moving up in 25 is a good sign for their 26. It's a team that has always been full of people who know what they're doing
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it wasn't
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when the regulations change so drastically, it is very easy to mess up big time
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yet it never happens
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we know redbull is going to fall back big time
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Alpine could do anything, win a race or be at risk of failing to qualify
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yet it never happens
mercedes 2022 to 2024
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2014 had one team rise up
And 2022 had one team rise up
THe rest stayed mostly the same
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do we forget how insane mercedes 2021 second half of year was
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I think Williams has a good chance to move forward. They do well with lean money, have great drivers and it seems like good investment
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and how bad 2022 first half was for them
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Williams is the only team I can realistically see actually do something
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Ferrari
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because they threw away the first half of 2025 for 2026 development
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i can see aston audi mclaren redbull and williams being in a shakedown for who will be bottom of frontrunners while the rest mark the midfield
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And rumors don't help
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Yes but will they get dramatically worse
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Yes, definitely
remember 2014?
Ferrari is a backmarker team as far as I can concerned, just getting top team money
They have no intent to win
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ferrari at least is reportedly moving away from their hardheaded designs that they legitmately thought they were doing right and everyone else was doing wrong
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And why does Ferrari keep managing to come back forwards from the brink? Reliable consistent investment over long periods.
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they will be running a double pushrod suspension much like everyone else assumingly
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And why does Ferrari keep managing to come back forwards from the brink? Reliabl...
and it never pays off anyway
cause they get pace too late
and then are too slow at the start of a new season
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and it never pays off anyway
Well no it's Ferrari
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Ferrari is a retarded team, I genuinely hate them
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next year we might see fuel play a big part
and each team has their own biofuel manufacturer backing them
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In f1s quest to be road relevant....
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I guess that throws a wrench into the whole thing
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Separate fuel providers?
theyve always been seperate but there was no difference afaik
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They want to see what can be done with fuels that would bankrupt normal people
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They want to see what can be done with fuels that would bankrupt normal people
We never mattered anyway
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but now its biofuel and its experimental so who makes the better one is a mystery
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this is a hypothesis for some teams but you get the idea
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If Ferrari doesn't win 2026, then I have no hope for other mid-field team making up ground either
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X
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Hmmm, different fuels for different engine providers then
Makes sense
They have to fine tune the engine to it
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pretty much yeah, alongside big sponsorship on the main car
shell on the ferrari, petronas amg, mobil1 redbull etc
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Will be funny seeing Petronas on Mclaren, williams and Alpine
Very odd
Only other team to have worn Petronas was Sauber
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nah
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just not as a title sponsor
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theyll just get the fuel because the engine they run has been developed with that fuel in mind
they wont be getting a sponsorship too
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The teams must be worried about the green washing nature of this project for the oil companies. Exxon especially has a LOOOONNNGGGGG tradition of starting stuff to "reduce fossil fuel use" that sounds cool, giving it a half hearted attempt to advertise that it's a thing they're doing, pouring more money into advertising the project than researching the tech, then the tech fucking sucks, then they give up completely in under 5 years.
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they wont be getting a sponsorship too
Fair..
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F1 bio/synth fuel is a perfect candidate for that sort of green washing project
I'll be honest, BP stands a chance to be worst at it
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The teams must be worried about the green washing nature of this project for the...
None of these fuel companies have ever had any intent of going through with the hopes of a green energy solution
They pollute our world
We suffer for it
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The teams must be worried about the green washing nature of this project for the...
the teams probably dont give a shit about who makes the most economical fuel, but rather who can put the gimmick better together to have good performance
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And are told to buy shitty stuff so as to make the world better
It was literally healthier when cars wre sponsored by tobacco sponsors
Than it is for it to be sponsored by Gambling rings and Fuel providers
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the teams probably dont give a shit about who makes the most economical fuel, bu...
They obviously don't, but these are our leaders anyway
Teams are all rich people who have no normal person problem
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the teams probably dont give a shit about who makes the most economical fuel, bu...
And what does great performance in F1 take? Long term continued investment, and not having your exec board chop off an expensive loss-making science project before it becomes successful.
Unless the marketing effect of people buying petrol off the back of seeing it on an F1 car is unbelievably massive, the fuel science will be absolutely starved for investment by the fuel companies. Obviously the F1 teams themselves will want to help this science continue but they are drop in the ocean budgets next to exxon
Aramco is my bet for best fuel supplier, long term, in f1
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i mean i did kinda make my dad put shell on the car every time they used to give out those ferrari toy cars..
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Saudi is very openly spending zillions on trying to move the economy off of oil. Oil CEOs don't wield infinite power in Saudi like they do in the USA, the government there is well aware that the oil money is temporary and will do what it takes to move on.
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i mean i did kinda make my dad put shell on the car every time they used to give...
I also like a shell garage. One of the few places where you can see an image of Lewis and Charles standing next to a ferrari and looking happy
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Hahaha
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Saudi is very openly spending zillions on trying to move the economy off of oil....
Nah you're definitely wrong about that
Though also not entirely
pale tinsel
@granite tangle you know how we know max seriously considered 69 as his race number?
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I mean we been KNEW
He said in a Dutch interview whenever he mentions 69 Kelly would get on his case at home telling him something like “what are you even saying” 😭
Happy wife happy life, welcome number 3
pale tinsel
Fuck sake Kelly, ruined a good time
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I really don't deserve you guys talking to me
Given how insufferable I am
I am sorry
I won't talk back ever again
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X
pale tinsel
imagine
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10 seconds in and there's already Ferrari slander I'll just end myself
half the video is ferrari and alonso radios XD
pale tinsel
which is why I'll be ending myself at my earliest convenience
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Hell yeah
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That was quick.
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The materials tech is very advanced, and we've seen with wings that the teams will read between the lines, and build to pass the test, not to pass the exact regs
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Interesting how building cars to the exact regulations is always not advantageous enough. Though I suppose that's the fact with any competition loophole.
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The next F1 comtroversy
Since they're officially calling the low drag mode "straight mode" that means we call the high downforce "gay mode"
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pffffft
that will definitely catch on
We need a gay driver on the grid so we can just call it "this guy's name mode"
Like "Leclerc mode" XD
For now we'll call it Ralf mode
I was watching a bit of F1 Challenge the other day, and I noticed that back in the 1999 season up until 2002 at least, only the top 6 drivers scored points
This frankly baffled me
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If there isn't a gay driver on that grid right now I'll be stunned
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because there are more teams in 1999, and the top runner cars are even faster than the mid-field and backmarker than they are now
So why would only the top 6 drivers score points?
How would the lesser teams even be able to be measured given as they'd almost never get the chance to score any point
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If there isn't a gay driver on that grid right now I'll be stunned
I mean I don't know which of them would fit that description
The ones I know have girlfriends/Wives/partners
- Max Verstappen
- Charles Leclerc
- Lewis Hamilton
- Fernando Alonso
- Lando Norris
- Pierre Gasly
- Niko Hulkenberg
- Oliver Bearman
- George Russel
- Alexander Albon I think
The rest as far a I can think of are all also straight
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They may do
Ralf had a wife for 15 years, and they had a child.
Anything could still happen
Also wait is Lewis not single?!?
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Ralf had a wife for 15 years, and they had a child.
Anything could still happen
Damn
That is pretty bad to be honest
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He's been laying pipe with a lot of women as far as I know
I remember that Christina Aguilera verse lmao
But yeah, coming out to yourself after being that deep in the closet harms everyone
Which is why I think it only becomes more likely that another current driver could be comfortable enough to come out.
Anyways, then they can call it Gay Mode, like I will be
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I remember that Christina Aguilera verse lmao
Eyyy
I was hoping you'd catch that
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Which is why I think it only becomes more likely that another current driver cou...
I hope they are smart enough to do that and not get too far involved for it to be too late and just harm everyone
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Eyyy
I was hoping you'd catch that
I'm gay I listened to that thinking "ooh who is XNDA I haven't heard of them" the first time 🤣
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Pfft
I mean you don't need to be gay to listen to women singing I guess
Regardless
You know what team I really want to see turn things around for 2026?
Alpine
I have a soft spot for Alpine
Alpine/renault was always a consistent midfield team
2025 was jsut a bad patch due to messy management and lack of development
For 2026, I expect them to return to being either upper or middle of midfield again
glacial pine
Here's hoping
Alpine doing well suggests goofy F1 inspired special edition road cars
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Hahaha
Prepare for a shit load of interviews of F1 drivers driving the normal road cars
God don't do that to Gasly
I don't want to see him suffer in the A390
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Also wait is Lewis not single?!?
paddock rumors are he has a gf
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The ones I know have girlfriends/Wives/partners
- Max Verstappen
- Charles Lecle...
kimi antonelli also has a girlfriend, really sweet girl and shes in karting
oscar too
sainz has one too
esteban too i think
yeah if anyone on the grid is gay its more likely someone with a girlfriend than someone single XD
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I don't want to see him suffer in the A390
If that thing is Polestar 2 shaped I might even forgive it
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kimi antonelli also has a girlfriend, really sweet girl and shes in karting
Really? Thought he'd be too young for it
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yeah if anyone on the grid is gay its more likely someone with a girlfriend than...
Pfft
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sainz has one too
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying them.
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Really? Thought he'd be too young for it
When I was 10 years old I had a girlfriend
The children are dating
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When I was 10 years old I had a girlfriend
Man..
The gay man has had a girlfriend and I don't have one anymore..
sigh
Man I am pathetic
I guess folks date young nowadays
glacial pine
In high school I had another
She's lesbian married now
Clearly I was too busy having girlfriends to become a racing driver. Wasn't worth it
severe spindle
Ngl
Nothing can feel more defeating than your partner turning out the liker of opposite gender
Because you are not at fault for the break up
So you just end up blaming yourself for something not your fault
I'll definitely be throwing myself off a Bridge
glacial pine
Oh neither of us realised until we left school haha
severe spindle
😔
severe spindle
Clearly I was too busy having girlfriends to become a racing driver. Wasn't wort...
And here I am
No girlfriend nor any racing career
My life is worth nothing
I serve zero purpose
glacial pine
You enjoy fresh memes on discord 👍
severe spindle
You just further confirmed my uselessness..
granite tangle
Really? Thought he'd be too young for it
they apparently met racing i think, thats why kimi is super supportive of women's feeder series and stuff he knows first hand
severe spindle
That's rather nice then
Very rarely we get racer couples
Guess Kimi brings more to the scene than his hair
granite tangle
yeah cause sadly enough the women quit to have kids
add to the fact its harder to move up the ranks for girls
severe spindle
Well that's how life works
Moving up the ranks has become meaningless anyway
Because no F2 driver is ever successful in F1 anymore
So "moving up the ranks" has lost its meaning
You're either a prodigy or you're lucky
Why do I even talk...
My false sense of confidence is always my undoing.. I'm sorry. I won't talk agakn
glacial pine
You're right tbh
F2 drivers further careers are either stupid richly sponsored in f1, lance stroll, chewed up in the red bull meat grinder or onto formula e to be bullied for 4 years before joining someone's hypercar program
pale tinsel
yeah if anyone on the grid is gay its more likely someone with a girlfriend than...
lancelot
severe spindle
F2 drivers further careers are either stupid richly sponsored in f1, lance strol...
It frankly feels like that'll be indeed all it'll ever amount to.
I will say however, the Red Bull Driver Academy is quite a versatile one, given how many of the drivers on the current roster hail from there. I am curious if it is considered the best Academy indeed, or if it's just a stroke of luck.
- Max Verstappen
- Liam Lawson
- Yuki Tsunoda
- Isaack Hadjar
- Alexander Albon
- Carlos Sainz Jr.
- Pierre Gasly
7 out of the 20 active drivers on the current grid, 6 if you discount Yuki and 7 again if you consider Linbahd for 2026, are from their Driver Academy.
It is why I believe that even without Christian Horner, Helmut Marko or Adrian Newey, they'll be fine for the forseeable future. They are a team that truly built itself up in the best possible way.
granite tangle
I will say however, the Red Bull Driver Academy is quite a versatile one, given ...
RB academy almost has too many good drivers. While other teams almost have no f1 worthy talent
or mclaren who is jailing them and making secret groupchats
Anyways, 2 hot takes from me today
- Iwasa to F1 next year i do not care who he replaces
- Bring back supersoft/ultrasofts/hypersofts
they had aura
severe spindle
RB academy almost has too many good drivers. While other teams almost have no f1...
Which is quite honestly tragic.
Which means that Red Bull has to be the only one constantly rotating drivers, while others barely ever get the chance. Poor Drugovich
severe spindle
they had aura
I don't know what they could be useful for however.
I can see potentially either Iwasa or Yuki going to Aston Martin given their Honda deal.
granite tangle
I don't know what they could be useful for however.
I can see potentially either...
they were just as useless then as they would be now, but they were cool so im biased
youd only see a maxium of 3 compounds used per car, maybe 4 with some miracle where its fine weather in one session and wet in the next for inters
the only thing it added was that teams were the ones choosing the compounds instead of pirelli, so in something from this year:
instead of pirelli deciding to field the C4(MED) and C6(SOFT) teams would never pick the dogshit C6 and be able to choose the C5 for quali
severe spindle
Hmm, I guess that'd be something of some slight interest. But I don't see them adding anything beyond that.
granite tangle
youre right they wont
but i liked it because sometimes the cars matched the tires
blue tires on the mercedes, orange on the mclaren, pink on the racing point...
severe spindle
Hehe, to be honest I am surprised they don't do that already
Like I get that having color coded tires makes it easier for the commentary and viewers to see what tires the drivers are on
But I personally thing it'd be a better idea to leave the tire's lettering color be customized to the team.
severe spindle
They could potentially bring back the Hypersofts in order for the drivers to set new lap records around circuits
granite tangle
They could potentially bring back the Hypersofts in order for the drivers to set...
Pirelli tried with the C6 this year, broke some records but was terrible on other tracks it was assigned, Pirelli scrapped it for 2026 so we are back to 5 compounds
Maybe they will bring it back when they develop a new one with all the data on where it failed to deliver
That strongly depends on how these new cars “play” with the tires
Since they are thinner now and the cars have less df and grip in the corners
Ground effect cars in hindsight were truly terrible for tires
Even driving it in the video game you can just tell how miserable late ground effect dirty air is to be in
severe spindle
Yeah honestly whatever problems there were with the previous generation of cars, the ground effect ones just worsened it 10 fold
Dirty air, tire shredding, tons of bouncing and plank wear
If you ask, unless you actually build intentional obsolesce, these problems will continue. 2026 cars seem to have that idea in mind. They're intentionally made worse. So their problems will be controlled.
And should the regulations be deemed entertaining enough, the cars will continue to shrink further and further, until they're back to the sizes they used to be back in 2010 or maybe even 2005.