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granite tangle
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SO SLOW

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wow

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I don't understand why the website doesn't work
it worked perfectly well last race

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i do hope that haas contest that penalty

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piastri is pulling away

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hahahaha

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hes ragebaiting GP

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He loves doing that

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my favorite married couple are chummy again ❤️

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god i miss rocky

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LET LANDO PASS? HELL NO

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HE LET HIM THROUGH

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nah this team

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i hope their HQ burns to the ground

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McLaren on some bullshit

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snack brown needs to stop eating and realize his golden boy is not winning the ship

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Phat Brown and Andrea Sterrorist need to stfu and let them race

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oscar put your car on his ass and crash both of you out

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come out

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you can do it

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Mark Webber fight for your boy man come on

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you know what its like

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they having a tea

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this is pure 2023 Verstappen

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and thats why im loving it

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So comfy he can just have a bit of banter

granite tangle
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in one of my favorite tracks too

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Piastri fallen back a bit?

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some bullshit

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hes given up on it

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Yeah he has

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Webber needs to kick off

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i mean hes on a lap older tires, and they asked him to swap after lando got his up to speed

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its just

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blatant favoritism innit

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The golden boy

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max is putting fastest lap with a lap to go

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rip

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antonelli 5 seconds

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damn Hamilton couldn't catch russell

granite tangle
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good for lewis

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+4 places

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not good for ferrari

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Good recovery yeah

glacial pine
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What a boring Momza

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decent enough

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i love alex jacques

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in second place EVENTUALLY, is lando norris

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🤣

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I've got to put up with crofty and brundle

glacial pine
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Rough race for Tsunoda too

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poor guy

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really rough

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Guy started P10, no?

glacial pine
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How long till Hadjar gets "promoted"

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Yeah

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Next season probably

granite tangle
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Mekies on radio !!!

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Or maybe a few end races of this

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so weird listening to a french voice for redbull

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Still annoyed at that penalty for bearman

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Yeah wearechecking ain't working today, I ain't able to watch the race

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aura farming in P4/6

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Thats my team

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I think Sainz may get dropped for 2026

pale tinsel
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nah, sainz has a contract

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and is their marquee signing

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they won't drop him after 1 season

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With a performance like this, not sure how much a contract will hold

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toto is drooling at the thought of maxcedes speaking of performance

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he might be in the bathroom having a moment with himself with the onboard

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nope

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they got the bag for Franco

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sainz at his worst is 10 trillion times better than franco at his best

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The 2025 perofmrnace has been horrendous however

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their next in line is Luke Browning but he won't have the super license points i think

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Not any points finish

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Regardless, this is a confusing situation with Williams

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Albon was never this fast

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ok can Ferrari keep this livery for the rest of the season now

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And yet soon as Sainz comes in, he starts being rapid

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does sky get davide valsecchi as well or

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@pale tinsel

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NO WAY

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man

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valsecchi isn't full time

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i did like him a lot

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Very passionate

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he is one of the most passionate

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colorful personalities

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in the entire world of f1

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i wish he could have him every week but him being in a good bit of the european GPs is good enough

pale tinsel
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yeah but unfortunately we also get Danica Patrick
kms

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we used to have Paul Di Resta

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Danica Patrick is on sky? I don't think I've heard her this weekend

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hes so good with the drivers man he made norris that hasnt said a word in 10 laps smile

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piastri is kind of an italian name so the tifosi will probably accept him

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P4 btw

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props to the fans if anything

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holy max is strolling like its his back yard

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🤣

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i reckon the mclaren team got that test emergency notification and got distracted during landos stop

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holy fuck man

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thats why this track is special

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THEYRE BOOING NORRIS?

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hahaha theyre singing it

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told you piastri would be accepted

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also lando has an undeserved p2

granite tangle
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max has been well accepted in italy now

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Whether they like it or not

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why's your team aura farming mario

granite tangle
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does he not deserve it

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a deserved aura farm tbh

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putting 20 seconds on prime stalin

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Its italy, lando is basically Benito Norrisini

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It's kind of funny seeing people root for Max to win

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Given we used to hate him winning

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I still do

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saw that

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Birds are now enemies of the state

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Pffft

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Ferrari's race wasn't the worst it could have been

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But this race overall was quite boring

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Hell, why did Lando even get P2, Piastri was P2 for majority of the race

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norris was P2 for 80% of the race

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had a slow stop

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Will say, if he does get a title, it'll be a record for I think the oldest F1 champion

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piastri overtook him

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and then mclaren begged them to swap places

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I'm telling you man, mark Webber needs to start swinging at fat brown

granite tangle
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I think he will after this

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it still made no sense to make the move here

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I mean sure, him getting 2nd over 3rd wouldn't make any difference in his point deficet to Piastri

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But it was odd thing to do

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Didn't make much logical sense

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+3 points for norris

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If Piastri overtook, he should have stayed there

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Regardless, I doubt oscar cares

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He's still well on his way to win

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And he will win singapore

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Norris did just open the gap after Oscar let him past.
Mclaren have it wrapped up teams wise, they don't want something outside of their drivers control to affect which of the two of them wins

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iirc they can wrap up constructors championship literally next race

glacial pine
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Wouldn't shock me. Ferrari is the only other fast car with two drivers contributing

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come on now lets not kid ourselves its not like norris had to pull a godly drive to stay ahead

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dirty air alone is enough to keep you there in an equal car

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I thought Oscar would have something to attack lando with

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its hard

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oscar was pushing, and was suddenly asked to swap the moment lando turned the softs on

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Damn, Stroll was 9th when I tuned in, he finished last

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Not been a good race for Aston Martin this one

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Scott Mansell, any relation to Mustache Mansell?

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Hahaha

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Dedicated

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ok last one now

granite tangle
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#1373356149361086514 message

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@granite tangle just realised they sent wache to the podium

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very undeserved

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it is what it is

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id rather see mekies

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but they didnt

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Mekies or Hannah even

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hannah wasnt on site today afaik

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Who's gonna tell wack brown that +3 points for Lando isn't gonna hurt Oscar's chances of winning the championshipWeirdChamp

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Bruh

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That was a different scenario entirely Zak

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But at this point it is what it is

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👀

granite tangle
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Can't even say "That's just racing"

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but its fucking funny

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They're actively being forced into sabotage

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as per

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Oh for fuck sake

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I fell for it again

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ahahaha

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I am stupid, I am stupid...

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you'll catch them one day dw about it

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I have caught them like twice

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But I still fell for this one like a complete amatuer

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Shows how stupid McLaren have gotten if thats believable lets be real

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somehow people dont fall for the good ones

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but they fall for the absurd ones

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XD

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i mean

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this is NOT motorsport bollocks

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like every week

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being george russel gets worse

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Toto is more demented than Flavio

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McLaren do not pit the drivers against each other when you're ahead in the WCC challenge (impossible)

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i mean he is correct in a way

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but he should not be saying that

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it's not aboiut being correct

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It's about thinking what you say

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oh hes thinking

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Toto Wolff be jacking off to Max tonight istg

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that him saying that puts mercedes in max's (or rather his management's) good graces

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but at the same time he's completely sacrificing his drivers' confidence over a gamble

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Geroge will NOT let this slide

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He will not let himself be replaced by Max

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he's not thinking about his team

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he's thinking about a future that's unlikely to happen

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Geroge is out there getting podiums and wins and yet this is what his boss says

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He's doing it in a shitty car no less

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2025 Mercedes has reached an exceptional level of shittiness

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And yet look at him

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no that was bottas being bottas

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He probably thinks Hamilton was his prodigy or something

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Forgetting that Hamilton was a Mclaren driver longer than he was a Mercedes driver

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I think

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Ok when toto gets convicted of fraud and escapes jail by going to the virgin islands, as well as banging a supermodel like heidi klum in the meantime

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then he can be close

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Flavio's done that? Jesus

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What's the man not done

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Be honest?

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I am surprised he's not got the interpol after his ass, let alone able to keep the role of a team principal in F1

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But yeah, he was a convicted criminal and ditched the eu to live in the virgin islands for years until the convictions were extinguished

glacial pine
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Ah Flavio

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and he kept working for benetton while in exile and got very wealthy doing it, making loads of franchises for them and getting big cuts

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and briefly dated Heidi Klum, had a daughter with her and then decided to not be a part of that daughters life

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Big Flav

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what a fuckin nutcase

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i love him

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Jesus christ

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Proper prick

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He takes all the cake for the worst person in F1 altogether

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Convicted criminal no less

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Best part? He never had any interest in racing when he started

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but Benetton put him in charge of the commercial side of their team, before taking over the full thing and taking a 30% stake

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So essentially, we're dealing with a person who has no real F1 interest

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1994 Benetton cheating allegations happened under his watch

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Has been part of the reason for the upcoming of one of the biggest names in F1 history

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And still no real interest

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oh he probably has an interest now

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he does manage Alonso after all

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Does he?

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He's not in his team anymore

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How would he manage him

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He handles his contracts and stuff

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Like how Alonso is Gabi Bortoletos manager

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I thought alonso had his own stuff going

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So even when he's not Alonso's boss

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He still has direct ties with him

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Unreal man

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Yep, manager and advisor to Fernando

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Briatore is quite the character

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Can't deny that, that's for sure

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Even when he's away, he's still involved

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And now he's even directly involved withAlpine

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Hoping to find a new Alonso via Alpine's newest rookies

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Franco, Doohan, Paul Aron

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Who knows, maybe he will eventually

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Shitty as a person he may be, he does seem to have an eye for talent

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In fairness, Alonso's first full season with Minardi was a bad one too

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So who knows, maybe Franco will step up in a decent car

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Guess it remains to be seen what 2026 has for him and Alpine

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just want to say

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still annoyed about this

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I mean it makes no real difference

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But yeah these last 2 races' penalities are quite bad

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eyyy, legend is here

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Wait what?!

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How did he rack up so many penalty points

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Like I genuinely cannot unhear the actual people's voices

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first set was last year, crashing with colapinto in brazil - 2
then another in fp2 monaco for overtaking under red flags - 2
another lot during the british fp3, crashed in the pitlane under red flags - 4
and now for the "crash" with sainz - 2
which puts him at 10

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12 for a ban

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he's gotta keep it clean until november 2nd when the brazil gp penalty points get wiped

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so honestly most likely bearmans getting a race ban unless and i hope haas appeal this one

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Well shit, man's more crash prone than I had thought
Wouldn't even think of him doing this, given he's sucha sweet guy off the track

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Bearman's a decent driver, but he still is a rookie no doubt

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Ironic how he's the number 2 driver for Haas, whose number 1 driver was even more crash prone xd

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It kind of reminds me of when Renault paired Grosjean and Maldonado

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Haas is the spirit of Renault revived

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Pairing two famously crash prone but also quick drivers

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Is Baku next week?

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Or is it longer wait?

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nah week after

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19th September - 21st September

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Aww

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Why do races always have to happen on inconvinent dates for me

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It’s easy to blame Mercedes for failing to handle Hamilton and Rosberg falling out, but they actually gave us a masterclass in how to handle two teammates fighting for a title.
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︀︀For 3 years, they had a written set of rules which both drivers had to follow - no questions asked.
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︀︀No deliberation, no grey areas - straight to the point.
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︀︀McLaren in 2025 are giving far too much leeway to their drivers to make decisions and it leads them to be in these positions time and time again.

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Quoting Damon Hill (@HillF1)

I know I've been critical of some of his passing and tactics, but there is not getting away from the fact that Max Verstappen is the driver of this age. He's a cut above in almost every respect. A phenomenon, actually. Nice job this weekend Max 👏🏼👍🏻✌🏻

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im watching that

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"as long as there's delusion, there's hope"

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in a cayman GT4, hey i cant complain

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Ngl he'll do well in that

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i think its no quincidence he's choosing the MR cars

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Has Max ever professional races something that is front engined?

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no never i think

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Where does he place his PC?
when he sim races, if his pc is in front of him its technically front engined

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Unc behavior

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Ferrari have turned him into a boomer unc

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@granite tangle found you some copium

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seen and coped

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Ngl, I dislike Max as much as I dislike Mclaren

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so I wouldn't want either of them winning

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i speak for everyone when i say

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we will be watching

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(in 3 days)

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hes going from rocky, to the Nurburgring, to racing the RB21 in one of redbull's historically worst tracks

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id be calling in sick for baku if i was max 🤣

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wait a mini

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he also drove the racing bull's car for the pirelli test

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is that even allowed

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pfft

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@pale tinsel confirmed then

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quite fitting xd

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Thats Franz Hermann what you on about

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cant race under an alias unless youre lance strulovich i guess

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Is this because they got rid of Kimi back in 2007 after he won their last WDC?

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It feels like he's left a curse with them since

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Like rosberg has not liked verstappen from like his debut season

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He also used to take lowkey digs at him every chance he got

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I am legit surprised he’d say this factual or not

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It's easy to not be that way anymore when you're not in the acne anymore

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(I still love Nico and I think it’s funny that he hates max)

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After all he was legitimately scared of the mad max rookie and how he used to drive back then

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I think every driver kind of hates max
Espiecally those who were around his initial years
He was like a worse Vettel with how aggressive he drove

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He was too hot headed and too careless during then

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He's matured alot since

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Espiecally in.the personality department

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Young Max was more insufferable than Lando

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Your comparison doesn’t exactly make sense. Max was/is an overly aggressive driver and he got massive flack for it

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What he got as a rookie is kinda similar to Antonelli if anything

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(Don’t even look what his own countrymen were commenting on his posts after he crashed our Charles)

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And the comparison makes even more sense since both of them skipped F2 entirely because F1 team principals were willing to take the gamble

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There's no argument that you're making

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Max was an insufferable personality

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Everyone disliked his overly aggressive driving

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I don't know why you're talking back on facts

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The second is a fact the first is your opinion lol

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Only reason Nico says what he says is because he's not actively part of the sport anymore

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Many of his interviews were hollower than Stroll's

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True and that’s why Nico is fine with Hamilton but Hamilton isn’t fine with Nico xd

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Its nothing new, it's how every upcoming talent in F1 acts

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That whole thing was so stupid

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Max from his second year (latter half) onwards alongside Daniel were from the fan favorite duos

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While still being heavily disliked on-track

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Like I said, didn't stay that way

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Also rosberg ofc sees it differently because he got the championship and dipped

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While Hamilton never even managed to compete for his get back

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They were both pretty stupid for that

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Also Hamilton felt (not necessarily the truth) that everyone was against him in 2016

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But hey, it was never said these racers are shining examples of personalty

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When they crashed in Barcelona

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Niki Lauda said it was Lewis’ fault in that occasion

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And Lewis was very bothered by that

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I remember that

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Also Rosberg from memory pulled a very sneaky accident in Monaco didn’t he

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In quali

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So he felt like his team wasn't favoring him?

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Rosberg that season wanted it more than anyone he didn’t stop at anything

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So he was cheating but also being in the rules

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He was being unsportsman is the word

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The team just told them let them race when Lewis wanted to get team orders

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This is something I never understand with winning teams In F1

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So they tripped each other in every single occasion

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Why do you even have 2 drivers if you're the winning team

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Far from perfect management but also much better than McLaren 2025

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Cause rhat way you're just getting in your own way

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Way I see it, winning team should always have one driver removed

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Well i would argue Rosberg was never supposed to be a second number 1 driver

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They just happened to be that dominant that he had a chance

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Mercedes were still a bit in their infancy years

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Rosberg was playing second driver to a retired Schumacher and couldn’t wait for him to leave, then boom Lewis signs

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If you’re Nico you’re dying to prove you’re better than that guy

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Yeah honestly that was a stupid move

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No the Schumacher signing was the best move Mercedes did

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2nd driver should be promoted to first when the 1st driver retires

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So don't hire Lewis Hamilton when your number 2 driver is still there

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Signing Lewis proved massively beneficial for them too, everyone knows he was and is better than rosberg

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These teams don't actually have an interest in their drivers

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Just hiring whatever driver seems good

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Without any consideration of what it'd do

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That’s like saying Tsunoda should be the rebull star if Max leaves when redbull have a chance to sign a much more proved and experienced Leclerc or Russel

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It’s business and winning brings sponsors and sponsors bring money

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Ofc they don’t care about their drivers, only after they win then they do ofc, until they stop winning XD

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You're supposed to give the sportsman a chance

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Not sabotage them Again

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I am.not gonna get mad over this

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It’s the same in every sport

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It's just what happens

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Real Madrid have built a legacy on buying players developed by other clubs

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Well isn’t the pinnacle the best a sport gets

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Hobbyists get a fair chance, but it ain’t any fun watching them, I’d rather go do it myself

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Regardless, modern F1 has nothing to do with skill anyway

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Fastest car is rhe champion winner, that's it

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Actually I am being emotional, ignore what I say right now

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who's gonna tell him 5 years later

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End of an era 😭

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Seen but source is untrustworthy

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extremely

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this helmet went over to honda after suzuka

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its a thank you for 4WDC and 2WCC

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huh. they only just signed with mercedes too

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also german

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so

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win win win?

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true true

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Like Monster energy drink being on both mclaren and Mercedes' race suits

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2027 is our year?

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I didn't take much issue with what Mclaren did in Monza, but then someone mentioned something and it hit me

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Why did they not swap positions in Silverstone then?

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Oscar's penalty was justified, what he did was incredibly stupid

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But if they wanna be "fair" then they should have favored Oscar that time as well due to his fuck up

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@pale tinsel you think i can apply XD

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prob yeah

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red bull were hiring a social media person too

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cant do none of that

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but what i could do

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is apply for an undergraduate IT or other computer science related programme

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Yas

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then i can ask you for tickets to Grand Prix's

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they want lando norris on top they don't give a fuck about what's fair

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Time to finally watch the F1 movie

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Lets go

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Thus far, actually really good

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I will admit, I am not that great of a critic with movies, but this one is winning me over thus far

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China sprint was peak

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now it's all downhill

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So I'm done watching the F1 movie

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Final verdict? A solid 7.5/10

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Nothing particularly amazing, very cliche

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But Not a bad watch whatsoever

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If you're not into F1, you will be after watching this

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This movie does not come close to Rush or Ford V Ferrari

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its meant to be an action enjoyment chill watch flick

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not a true story

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not a realistic drama

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its outlandish and out there

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but it has its purpose for sure

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I will say, even for an Aston enjoyment chill watch flick
it actually had a decent bit of thought put into it

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The only aspect I didn't enjoy was why they just wouldn't settle for a podium

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And HAD to get a 1st

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Had to ruin many chances due to it

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thats where you just sigh and say "well its hollywood"

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Yeah I think that's the point

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Despite all the clear thought that was put into it

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It's still hollywood

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The stakes still have to be 110%

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exactly

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"slow and steady wins the race" is a format that's how every F1 team operates
But in the hollywood eyes, it just wouldn't fly

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the only racing movie that came out and i genuinely dislike enough to not even be able to watch it

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is the Gran Turismo movie

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they took a true story, cranked everything to 400% and made it completely cringeworthy

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Yeah I don't have any interest in watching that movie
THey can call it whatever they want, they can claim whatever they claim
But nothing about "GT e-sports" has anyhting to do with GranTurismo

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And like you said, they just stretched the story too far

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ignored the existence of an already existing GT winner

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Just to shed light on some DEI shit which wasn't even DEI when it happened

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I saw a few of the clips too

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The racing looks sooooooo CGI

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Playing a race in GT7 would look more realistic than the racing scenes in that movie

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F1 movie definitely didn't go that far

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nah the real guy exists, its a pretty good story in itself, so fuck DEI

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but

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it suffers from

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terrible on track action

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the real guy exists

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so why did they still make it DEI nonsense

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This isn't some martin king luther story either

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yet they still had to send a message that was never there

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also apart from the main straight in lemans every other "track" they raced on was filmed in the hungaroring, INCLUDING the lemans bits (apart from the straight)

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That's rather silly

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and you can tell

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Yeah it'd become super obvious after a while

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if someone told you the majority of RUSH was filmed in brands hatch you wouldnt believe them cause its actual good cinematography holding things together

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Really? most of RUSH was filmed in Brand's hatch? I never knew at all

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Rush had some proper soul put into its production

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And it still shows

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also, the CG bits were not done well enough, and the whole omg gamer takes the wrong line and somehow is faster than every single guy there doing it for years

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just to pass some silly "drive your own line" message

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is completely and utterly cringeworthy

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the dialog is also bad

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and yeah

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film is a mess

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I've seen some clips of it indeed, it does not interest me whatsoever

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I watched rush in full, and my god

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It's not only the best racing movie i've ever seen

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it's outright one of the best movies I've ever seen

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yeah that and ford v ferrari are my absolute favorites

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THe acting, the scenery, the literal smudge and dirtiness that was unlike the squeaky clean nature of most hollywood films?

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None of these characters were "desirable"

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THey all looked ugly and realistic

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This movie was as if it was reality itself

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bruhl did an absolutely amazing job at portraying lauda, down to the tiniest details in his accent

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you could watch niki speak and bruhl in the movie with your eyes closed and you couldnt tell

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# granite tangle yeah that and ford v ferrari are my absolute favorites

Ford V Ferrari is a fantastic story of real life retold in a fantastuc manner to bring light onto the reality of marketinga nd brand recognition
AND also tell a racing story
For all its shortcomings, it never felt like the movie was taking me for a fool. Ken Miles wasn't magically a better driver

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no ken miles was a talented driver from the start, held back by his temper and attitude

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movie does a great job at making you frustrated AT him and FOR him

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Exactly, and the best part? HE never actually gets fixed
He still has as much of an ego and temper as ever
He still is that same undesirable person from the start
But now we feel for him, because we know from Shelby's perspective on how he views this hobby

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It's life, but it is also just another hobby

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Ford V Ferrari was about racing, not character arcs

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shows you that to the outsider ken miles seems like pretty much a hot headed dick, but to those close to him (you grow closer to him as the movie progresses) is quite different

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Yup, absolutely

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He's not shown off as this anti-hero or some mis-understood talent

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He's talented, he's skilled, but he's also just another person

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he gets angry, he gets frsutrated, especially given his background

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and the bittersweet ending to his lemans race does exactly that, makes you feel for him

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He isn't some character we should learn from as a person
He's a character we should learn from as a racer

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and then the harsh reality strikes you in the end

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Indeed

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the moment shelby puts on his sunglasses to hide his tears and drives off in his cobra is a chill inducing moment for me

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His bittersweet end to the Le Mans
his end met in the car that would later go on to win many more

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you can really feel how much ken meant to shelby and how empty he feels

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But the real beauty of it all?

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The movie shows it all

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it was never about winning or losing

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It was just racing

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And "that's just racing" as John todt puts it

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shit happens

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Ken got the approval of those he needed

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he helped spearhead a legacy for the brand he raced under

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And he got to race on his own terms, as he had wanted

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He may have not been a winner
But many racing legends were never winners either

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THis is why the story I am writing somewhere else has a similar ending to that
The team doens't ever win
But its small accomplisgments are something that the racing fans, people like us, will always value

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from the moment shelby hears "sometimes they dont get out the car"

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to shelby visiting ken's home because he feels troubled, but the person he wants to talk about his troubles to isnt there anymore

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very human, very real

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I think Shelby was the one who had the character arc in the movie
He went from this jaded and kind of depressed person, masking this happy sales man and also brand ambassador for Ford, trying to keep politics and relations
But by the end, he's thrown all that way, he's thrown his facade away, he no longer cares about being the face or politics when he feels that he himself was part of the instruement that in his eyes showed his now lost friend injustice

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and thats why its so sad

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very decorated and great actors, im glad the film had the budget it had, and that none of it was wasted

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I don't think neither actor LOOKED like the real people

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And Ken Miles in real life was never such an angry person

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But alas, hollywood isn't it?

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we didn't watch it for realism, we watched it for a story

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well its very very hard to find an actor that both looks like the person and can put him on the big screen

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imho acting is greater than similarity

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Yeah i mean hollywood only ever hires the already known faces

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Like 10 or 15 actors list

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I mean the whole Ford V Feerrari story in real life put very little focus on Shelby or Miles

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They were just.. there

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But in the movie, that's a different story

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It's a good movie nonetheless

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well some things have to be amplified for drama

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yes

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Of course, it's Hollywood afterall

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We have bad examples and we have good examples

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and god bless the good ones

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I am like 100% sure in 10 years or so's time, we'll have other racing movies covering other stories

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Whether original or an adaption of a real story

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We'll have Senna vs Prost movie, we'll have Schumacher vs Hakkinen story

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Never stitled with emotions, always moving up and down

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Glad to hear the road issues got cleared up. Last year the flooding washed away the main access roads and FE went to Jarama

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Are these circuits FIA grade 1?

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Or does FE not require that

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FE doesn't require that. But permanent tracks are easier to test at because of facilities. When they raced at Valencia, they added a few wacky walls and chicanes into the run off.

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And then everyone ran out of battery because of a foolish safety car rule

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Saying that, formula e is adding events at (basically) permanent race tracks at a similar pace Formula 1 is adding shitty street circuits.

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10 of 16 races next year at "permanent" high FIA grade circuits. If you include Monaco and Berlin

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off they go again

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That's unfortunate

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seen all over my TL lol

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copping?

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nah im on the 15

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see no reason to

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my SE 2020 lasted me 5 years basically

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I still can't get over how ugly it is

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i dont hate the design tbh

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idk about the pro

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but the Air is clean

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I don't like the having a big giant blob for the cameras, and then also having them stick out from that. The weird empty space in the big camera blob looks so awful to me.

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The regular 17 is the only one I don't think looks terrible.

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If I liked iphone i would cop ngl

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Alonso has mastered levitation magic before outperforming lance stroll in 2025

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@granite tangle

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Haha

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thats a bummer

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125hp less is fucking unreal

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That does disadvantage him pretty severely

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nah its serious enough so that hes not competing at all

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just racing for the license

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I understand

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hmmm Citroen in fe

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makes sense

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Damn why doesn't Formula E tell us if they're a new team or replacing DS Penske

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Stellantis Newsroom doesn't even tell me I will be sending an email

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The product officer on the press release says it's a secret

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Might be Alex Albons car

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I thought he was gonna race under the lion speed livery

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# severe spindle Gyess well have ro see

There's 3 options.
Citroen is the 11th team, and it's all fresh
Citroen Racing renames one of the other stellantis teams, I think DS would be most likely
Or they take over the entry of McLaren and keep some of that team employed. I wouldn't be shocked to at least see one of the McLaren Drivers in Citroen.

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Mclarem drivers will likely be employed

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But not sure what'll be done with Mclaren team itself

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Unless operating an FE team costs nothing

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Which I doubt

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*Lando Norris in a winning car

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@pale tinsel

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@pale tinsel is it me or do you genuinely have to have screws loose to drive side by side on the ring IN PRACTICE of all things

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think about which driver you're talking about then rethink that question

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oh i know about all that

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but even for him its not like hes driven more than 10 laps around it 😭

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god this car is sexy

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THis guy's the worst F1 content creator

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I used to watch him all the time

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I still don't know why

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Yeah I don't know why I once or twice watched him either

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He's insufferable, always wrong and truly out of his depth talking about this sport

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hes typical clickbait dogshitter

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the F1 content creator i dislike the most

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and i see as a complete waste of oxygen

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is RPM by far

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terrible content, terrible person

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He's not even a clickbaiter, he just straight up has no idea what he's talking about

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And RPM? man he's a new level of bad

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He straigght up speaks garbage every time

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Takes personal matters into F1

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I did like the line "fastest fat man out of Melbourne"

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(referring to 1980 WDC Alan Jones)

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anyway i dont even want to speak about RPM for over a single sentence

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if anyone is interested this is tomorrow and will be streamed for free on this channel (10hrs from now) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuNTiYdQVQ

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Eyy, excellent

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I am kind of surprised 's picked a Ferrari for the job

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You'd think he'd drive the Mustang given Ford and Red Bull's relations

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they are putting him on GT4

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which he chose a GT4 Cayman for the job

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he's too powerful, they had to nerf him

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but thats also detuned cause hes first time on the ring "officially" for a race..

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This is the LionSpeed GT4 Cayman, dressed on verstappencom colors he will race

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I know he's not racing the Ferrari

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But he will eventually

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also to @severe spindle its no surprise he would use the cayman and the ferrari previously, as the hint is that they are mid engined

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That's what srprises me

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he owns 2 GT3 cars, of which the Aston is FR

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I know but I would have thought his contract obligations would pervent him

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he has RB by the balls

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they cant tell him much, plus im not sure if honda has a GT3 car for WEC

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Not Honda, but Ford is their new owner now

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And the Mustang is present in both GT4 and GT3

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It already is made

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it already is racing

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is it WEC spec ready?

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im not aware of it

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WEC spec is like near identical to IMSA spec, so it'd be ready very quickly

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Regardless, that's what I assume he'll do

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oh its based on the dark horse

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the GTD is the regulation free balls to the walls one

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Ngl, Max' comment about FWD being anti-driving is very stupid and has made him sour on me

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my bad on that

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Then again,nobody ever said Max is a smart person

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he's just a good racer

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i mean to him it probably is completely anti driving

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he was driving F3 before he drove a real car

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Yeah but who cares what he thinks

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or for that matter could legally do

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He never once drove normally

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He probably never even drove a FWD car

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never on a racetrack

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Or anywhere

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he certainly doesnt own one

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Which makes his anti-driving statement very invalid indeed

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It's just a different style altogether

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Not his style

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That's the key

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i mean he said "to me it is anti driving"

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makes sense because he is a very oversteer happy driver

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and hates understeer

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Don't think he worded it like that

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Wouldn't want him to become an Alpine driver xd

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its no wonder hamilton is struggling so bad now that i think about it

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ngl, I seriously hope one day F1 does this thing where all the drivers and cars are swapped, so then we can see how much of an actual difference driver skill and car performance make

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hes the total opposite and the ferrari is constantly sliding

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he prolly hates it

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his V line style was incompatible with ground effect itself, then the ferrari prolly flipped this man's world upside down

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Yeah he really isn't used to it
He's grown used to driving mercedes for a very long time, and he's not a very versatile driver, unlike say Hulkenberg

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It doesn't help that Mercedes has always been struggling with the ground effect far more than Ferrari

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So his style just doesn't jive with the problem not being there

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It's always interesting to see

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mercedes had total false info on ground effect

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its crazy how they could miss so hard

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Which is bizarre frankly

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Cause they seemed to nail the previous regulations nearly every time

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So what's so difficult about this one is kind of beyond me

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they had the last couple years down to a T

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and then they come up with the zero pod concept, then spend months designging actual sidepods cause they lost the gamble, and then missed again

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now they have a car that doesnt function in heat

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It's properly bizarre

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And even McLaren have beat them in their own engine

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It's also probably why the Ferrari powertrain cars are performing better this season than the Mercedes ones

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Besides Mclaren of course

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The Mercedes is troublesome but McLaren have found the flaw and have greatly mitigated it

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They have made an aerodybamic breakthrough

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I’m sure for Mercedes it’s also caused from the overheating since they can’t cool the poor thing down

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But even other cars have had failures

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If lando’s engine didn’t blow on its last race of its estimated life then you’d think the McLaren engine is different XD

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Now that I think about it we haven’t had engine blows for anyone but merc cars

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Maybe the same PUs are extensively changed despite being the same

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Or did a Renault alpine blow, was it an engine failure in Monaco?

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Engine failures are very unpredictable. Goes to how despite al the similarities, these cars are all quite different

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After 4 when u blow those up you get a 10 grid drop as you know I’m sure

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The moment the engine goes past the limit and fails followed by smoke

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We never wanted to see people win back to back

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We want to see people struggle

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That's the point of a sport

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THe moment you stop struggling, you're ruled out

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People can talk as highly as they want about Schumacher, but I am certain they all hated his constant endless domination back then

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Still is extremely impressive

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Man was driven by determination

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Ferrari had him for done btw

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Goes to show there’s 0 loyalty

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If he didn’t get up from the deathbed to go fourth they’d have sacked him

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I mean what else would you do if you were Ferrari?

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Anyone else would have been dead

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And if not dead, they weren't going to drive

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Morning

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Quali is in German only sadly

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But I’ll live

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Cool seeing in action however

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That's excting

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starting P5, the next fastest detuned car is P16 and a minute slower

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THat is some insanity

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The rest of the class is probably rookies, privateers and stuff. The Nordscheife is ALL about confidence.

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which is a shame cause you can only compare him with amateurs or rookies, or people who arent running detuned cars

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If it's specifically detuned cars to give rookies enough experience to get their full fat Nurburgring race licenses, then it probably isn't even meant to be particularly competitive

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he has to complete 14 laps in such a car to be able to race without the restriction

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he is registered under 2 different cars in this race, hes trying to do all 16 today

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i dont know how they would detune the SP7 though

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mate ive forgotten how long a formation lap takes over here XD

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they have an ad break for it

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🤣

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i also have to apologize to @severe spindle i was not aware that the dark horse generation mustang was racing ready, but theres even one in this race and its looking fab

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hehe

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Glad you've been corrected on that front

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and no problem, glad to serve

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That’s pretty awesome

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They have a free tracking app for the Nurburgring

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Eyyy

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Thats sweet

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What a yoke indeed

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I am surpirsed they weigh the Great wall of China

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I really like the idea of this, and the execution is perfect. However, sadly this wouldn't be recreatable in F1 anymore

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not all of these are in GT7, im not exactly aware which of those are

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but you could make it work with previous gens of them for like the mustang, or a corvette gt3

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apparently it was not only detuned to 300 from 430, but also had a 150kg ballast added

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Given sme of these cars don't exist irl

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Like the Renault race car isn't used anymore

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But yeah you're right aboutt he rest

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The 458 isn’t used either

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So there’s leeway for you to work with

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Hmm, yeah but there are other Ferraris

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But yeah it's all in good fun anyway

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You could realistically give the Alpine team a Mercedes as well give they'll be using those engines from 2026 onwards

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So for the 2026 grid it'd be like:

  • Ferrari 296 GT3 for Scuderia Ferrari and Haas
  • Audi R8 LMS Evo 2 or Lamborghini Huracan GT3 Evo 2 for Sauber/Audi
  • Mercedes AMG GT3 for Mercedes-AMG and Alpine and Williams
  • Ford Mustang GT3 for Red Bull and RB
  • Mclaren 720S GT3 for Mclaren
  • Aston Martin Vantage GT3 for Aston martin
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Hehe, glad they realize at least

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Hmm, that was unexpected

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Does this mean he still is Aston's reserve driver?

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Andretti alongside Jake Dennis would be a great seat

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Jake's a World Champ, and impressed in his champ year so much that red bull F1 popped him in the Abu Dhabi rookie test

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not really

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he wasnt getting a seat anyway

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He wasn't?

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hell no

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Damn, why?

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not that impressive, hasnt raced in a while (since he won f2) and no seats open

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A bit of a waste then
Keeping him away from a seat

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Is he not impressive or did he win F2 championship?

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I hope he finds some success in other fields of Motorsport

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F1 is a waste of time with how long drivers stick around for
5 years should be maximum

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also not f2 champions are the same

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some win under way more competition

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its a feeder series

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and both are pay drivers so who would dare sack them?

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Colapinto is a pay driver?

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drugovitch is neither a generational talent, nor does he bring in any money

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hes stuck in between

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The worst place to be

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It's just tough with so few teams having any turnover these days. But that's F1

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argentina itself is paying for him to just be there

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he clearly is slower than doohan

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so if he wasnt bringing in money how come he got the seat

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He did well to survive FE on debut in Berlin, that series is complex to a degree he'll never have encountered

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stroll's father literally owns the team just for him to have an indefinite contract

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we cant be talking about no "drugovitch" here

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That's a shame

glacial pine
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props to him im not saying any different

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but drugovitch has the least chance of all for an aston seat

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hell is gonna freeze over before stroll loses his seat

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I don't think he'll stay around for that much longer

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how many years would drugovitch have to sit in the bench and watch for him to get a chance though

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and would he get it? or would aston rather pick up a 20 year old fresh rookie talent by that point

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He's not enjoying it much

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I'm not denying what you say

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F1 is a business sadly

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At this point , shit like this just happens

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No one even knows what'll work next year

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My money is on Toro Rosso world championship

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Alpine WDC CONFIRMED

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That'd be pretty cool to see

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I mean if we want proof of this

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with the 2022 regulations, Alfa Romeo was actually pretty competitive initially

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So the same could happen with 2026, an uunexpected team taking the lead

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i just dont want it to be alpine cause of the people involved in the project

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apart from gasly. he deserves a competitive car

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I mean I guess fair enough, but le'ts be real