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2024 destroyed him fr

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Oh lmao that wasnt even what they wanted me to see

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a bit shame

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I wish he'd take up other motorsports

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Revolut Audi F1 Team

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I like it

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"global fintech leader" thrilling headline Audi, but will this inspire a good livery?

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I suppos we'll see

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ngl, none of the current title sponsor liveries are bad

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So I do look forward to it

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I will say, isn't it interesting how every F1 team nowadsys has a title sponsor?

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Go back just 6 years ago and it was actually something only seen with the less financially able teams like Williams, Haas and Racing point

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the Ferrari effect

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you must point the gun at a soya bean, no animal was harmed

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I wonder if Stake will continue to sponsor the team however, as just a standard sponsor

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Woah did Lando have a dominant car before this year?

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no

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Gotta say, it's definitely quite interesting how Lando and Oscar are competing

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americans paying 17 fucking dollars for a monster can

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when its gonna come in my local supermarket for as low as 1 fucking euro

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fucking embed

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at the end of the day it wasnt a mercedes deal

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it was a romantic dinner between the two of them instead

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Love Wins

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# glacial pine Love Wins

if you are as persistent in going for the person you love as toto, you deserve a happy ending ❤️

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what does kelly piquet think of this

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ok

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@granite tangle you're greek, who tops in a relationship between Max Verstappen and Toto Wolff

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and toto is older so its age gap yaoi

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so like ofc its toto that tops

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I wonder where this place would be at

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And I wonder how overpriced everythibg is

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Talking like 80 or 100 euros for a jersey or a polo

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Jackets? If you’re lucky 150 if you’re unlucky could be upwards of 250

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If you’re really a fan of someone you can wear it every day or hang it up in the wall and it’ll be there

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They have to be profitable enough to be worth making… so they end up being so expensive it feels like a scam

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That’s why a Messi or Ronaldo jersey, or LeBron jersey, or a Lewis Hamilton polo costs very similar amount to even a super small obscure team or even a fucking esports team that could have 0 fans for all you know

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I wouldn't mind buying one

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We already spend money on useless stuff and at the end of the day, if nothing else, these are just clothes like any other

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We can wear them and we should weae them

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I'd probably buy one tshirt of nearly every team bar Mclaren, Mercedes-AMG and Red Bull

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I own a few jerseys, and I am looking into getting f1 merch as well

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Just have to see if max is gonna stay in redbull so I don’t buy something that’s soon gonna be outdated XD

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Probably gonna have to wait until at least next year since he’ll be going back to MV33

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While Max ain't leaving Red Bull until at least 2026

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If he does eventually leave the team, the team would literally have nothing to rely on anymore

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I want Carlos Sainz Jr at Red Bull sooooo bad

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I don't think he'll come back to them

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But who knows

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With his seat at Mclaren and Ferrari gone

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And Red Bull still possibly having a better car for 2027 than Williams

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It may be possible

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I wanna see him win races again

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Maybe even a championship

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All depends on having the right equipment

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Lmao wouldn't it be funny if he replaced Lewis Hamilton at MercedestheoTrol

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Would be funny indeed lol

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Lewis takes his seat

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He takes Lewis' seat

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However, it's unlikely

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Max may move to Mercedes in 2027, so that'd take away the possible slot at Mercedes

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I assume Alonso will retire by 2027

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Maybe Lewis too by 2027

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Not sure if Lance will keep racing either

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this year was terrible for him

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Potential grid for 2027:

  • Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Oliver Bearman
  • Mclaren: Oscar Piastri, Lando Norris
  • Mercedes: Max Verstappen, Kimi Antonelli
  • Red Bull: Carlos Sainz, Issak Hadjar
  • VCARB: Liam Lawson, Yuki Tsunoda
  • Williams: Alex Albon, Franco Colpainto
  • Haas: Esteban Ocon
  • Audi: Gabriel Bortoletto, Nico Hulkenberg
  • Aston Martin: Felipe Drugovich, George Russel
  • Alpine: Paul Aron, Pierre Gasly
  • Cadillac: Sergio Perez, Mick Schumacher
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Bug yeah this is my prediction for 2027

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I don't know where else to place some drivers

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Antonelli may move to Alpine or Williams depending on who Mercedes is more okay with sending their rookie

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No idea who could be the 2nd Haas driver

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I predicted this for 2027 than 2026 because I don't see the 2026 differing much from 2025

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Maybe Hadjar being moved up to replace Tsunoda

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Poor red bull juggling their drivers. It really needs to stop

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I agree

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VCARB needs to become its own team

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This driver juggling is insane

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i think hes not leaving until at least 28

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I don't know, Lewis may stick around, but I feel like he won't

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2027 F1:

  • Red Bull: Carlos Sainz Jr, Isaak Hadjar
  • Mercedes-AMG: Max Verstappen, Pierre Gasly
  • Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Oliver Bearman
  • Mclaren: Lando Norris, Oscar Piastri
  • Williams: Alex Albon, Franco Colapinto
  • Audi: Nico Hulkenberg, Gabriel Bortoletto
  • VCARB: Yuki Tsunoda, Liam Lawson
  • Alpine: Paul Aron, Kimi Antonelli
  • Haas: Esteban Ocon, Valtteri Bottas
  • Aston Martin: Felipe Drugovich, George Russel
  • Cadillac: Sergio Perez, Mick Schumacher
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This is my revised 2027 prediction

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i think its a good prediction

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tho i dont think franco is getting another year in f1

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Honestly I am unsure about that as well

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id say that either piastri or norris will leave mclaren

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alex dunne is doing great in f2 so he could be promoted

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For one, I don't know if Alpine would keep him for 2026, cause I think they'll swap him for Paul

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to be a mclaren second seat

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But for 2027, they have some free seats and no rookies are gonna come

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So it's hard to say whether if Franco would get another seat

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also whats that redbull junior driver, he might get a shot at making the grid as well

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I don't see lando staying around if he can't get a WDC this year or next year

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he drives for mclaren thats why i said it

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i do think that norris piastri duo cant hold

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Lando will have the honor of starting and finishing his F1 career for a singular team

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norris going from 2024 championship contender to taking a back seat for 2025 to his teammate is gonna hit him like a truck

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The championship is coming down to the wire, and it's getting stressful for Mclarne to keep both of their cars on track

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hes either gonna be broken or he'll make the team choose hard between them and look elsewhere for his chance at a championship

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I don't know if he'll get another championship winning team if he leaves Mclaren, so that's that

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This may sound like a stretch, but how about Lando goes to Williams?

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nah not a good idea, him and Alex are competitive too

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Hell, I don't know if Charles will stay in Ferrari for 2027

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Feels like he's kind of lived past his prime

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XD

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I just watched that video actually

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It was hilarious ngl

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I like the grill the grid videos

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Though for some reason, Piastri is leading the actual championship AND the Grill the Grid one

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It's not fair

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Maybe he'll replace Yuki for RB

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Wait, Red Bull too?

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To be honest I'd rather be hired at Alpine

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but it is funny that both have job openings

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What application are you using to find these

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i wish job finding was this easy

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williams have a lot

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Hehe, I suppose it makes alot of sense for Williams

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True, makes sense. I keep saying to myself to make a Linkedin account, but I keep forgeting

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Maybe I don't care enough

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Dick move on Polou by Mclaren ngl

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All because of Piastri's unexpected sign up

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Without a doubt Mclaren intended Lando and Polou for 2023 onwards

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A shame for Alex. But the strength of Lando and Oscar together really has proved McLaren were right to do it.

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There's no doubt about that

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Oscar has gotten into his groove

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And Mclaren does seem alot better these days operations wise than say 2019 or so

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But man, it wasn't bad enough denying Polou of that seat, they go as far as to sue him too

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Like seriously? They didn't even sign him and ended up getting a different driver in time anyway

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So why rub salt on an open wound like that

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so

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he's officially been sacked from red bull

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Hahaha

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I read about his contorversy

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His leaked chats

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and yeah, deserved

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Hahaha

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Ngl, no offense, he looks like a goddamn hermit

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you're welcome

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Oh no

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XD

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explains why he drives so well

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He sees everything

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THe only WDC title drivers left in F1, besides, are Alonso and Lewis, who've both been racing since Max was a little kid

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It's shocking the fact that Seb, Kimi, Button and Rosberg are all gone

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Drivers which may I add, all began later than Alonso

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Someone mentioned this, and I do find it pretty crazy to be sure how dominant eras are a thing now

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FIA was doing crazy work to make sure Ferrari wouldn't be dominant after 2004, and yet they do nothing to stop Red Bull's domination now

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They're retards, that's why

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Sumer break is getting long

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We got Max Verstappen taking over fanfiction before GTA VI

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No fucking way

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I bet Octocum wrote one

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Where he fucks Max and then fucks his car

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Sometimes, dedicated fans can be frightening.

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Out of 55 thousand..

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Daniel freakkiardoWeirdChamp

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I mean some dynamics are first formed by the drivers themselves

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If you watch old redbull content you’ll see max has probably flirted more on camera with Daniel than his wife XD

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Jokes and fun are very welcome for me, as long as people aren’t getting parasocial with drivers’ personal lives (lando fan girls)

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Lando Norris fangirls recently were acting like the world ended because Lando is dating a woman they don’t like

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Yeah this is why Lando Norris said that he wouldn't mind deleting all his social media accounts.

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Some were saying “blah blah I might kill myself lando is officially dating her it can’t be blah blah”

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Always taking it too fucking far

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Indeed.

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And imagine just how pathetic you have to be to be a fangirl of a F1 driver, whose job isn't to be pretty, attractive or even good socially.

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Nah. There’s fangirls that appreciate the driver’s qualities as well and watch the races

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It’s just bandwagons that treat drivers like kpop idols or something

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Those aren't just fangirls anymore then, just fans.
But regardless, it doesn't matter, never take things too far.

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I mean I am a little bit into kpop as well and my belief is that the reason the most popular boy groups are completely terrible at making music is because the majority of the fan base is young terminally online girls that judge guys on appearance alone, and drag women down if they aren’t absolutely perfect

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I mean there was this video of someone raging over some people saying Lance Stroll is pretty.
And I'm just like... what are you actually mad about?
I swear to god, some people have engraved into their brains that somehow every bad quality comes with one bad quality.

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Some nasty people.

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Lance stroll fangirls were going apeshit on Twitter the past week

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Because lance stroll visited Israel (he is of fucking Israeli descent)

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Really? He is?

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Never would have guessed.

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The slightly altered name from Strulovich to Stroll helps people think he is a pure Canadian or something

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Anyway, billionaires don’t make money by advocating for world peace, stroll had to visit Israel and talk with soldiers to make papa’s clientele happy? Ofc he’s gonna do that

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I always thought he was Canadian. Being Israeli certainly would add more reason for his haters to hate him further then.

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“I hated him for no reason but I have one now”

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I saw that a bunch of times on Twitter

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Heh, I guess you're right. But still.

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If you’re gonna support the people where money comes

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I’m sure Mr MBS would be quite pleased

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Perhaps, perhaps not. I suppose this only proves how the talk for "equality and equity" in F1 scene was always a bit of a lie.

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When they hold races at Qatar.

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Well if it was true it’d be quite ironic

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But it’s just enough of a coverup so people don’t complain

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And the money keeps coming in

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Europe didn’t like the Russians, so to make Europe happy Russian flag is banned

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But Israel is not banned from neither the Olympics nor F1 nor Football

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Enough of the geopolitical discussion but I’m sure with what I said you can figure out for yourself how much sports “care” for equality and fairness

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It is a bit of a joke, to be brutally honest.
Banning Russia and Russian athletes when Israel is far guilter, just because of who their allies are.
Who said politics don't play games.

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Politics has always been a game of the rich, with the poor as the pawns

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Anyways! Back to F1

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As for Stroll however, well, it's no surprise that this reveal only worsens his already tarnished and non-existent reputation.

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You either have too much F1 content at once, or not any.

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Summer break would be all the shit if there was a real championship battle

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Would keep people talking about ifs and what’s

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This year it’s just especially terrible though..

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McLaren dominating, Lando on a slump, Redbull declining, Ferrari sabotaging themselves

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It’s pretty much over

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Last year coming into summer break max had a marginal lead of like what 70 points, on a rapidly declining redbull and Norris was on a massive comeback with the new dominant McLaren

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Yeah, there's no denying that.
And it isn't like there may be some changes after the season via upgrades and so on and so forth.
Because there likely aren't any upgrades, so likely no changes to the grid either.
If people find 2025 boring, I wonder how people managed to stay awake in 2023.

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The talk was all about can Max do it, is the car good enough to secure just enough points for the championships, theories on which race it’d come down to the wire in etc.

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Yeah I can imagine that's when the "max glazing" began in full gear.

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Though I’d guess people are more likely to complain now because this year you don’t have a dominant car and an established driver dominating

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But rather a super dominant car and 2 drivers who aren’t fully fledged yet

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The first half of the season we had the mclarens be absolutely insanely fast but you’d very commonly see the driver pair make mistakes with it

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I guess that’s the difference of two drivers on the rise with a dominant car and a world champion with a dominant car

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I’m sure both Lando and Oscar will improve in the coming years, now if they will have machinery as good as this McLaren tho, I don’t know

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We'll see who takes this season, cause 2026 may not be their year.

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It's rather weird about F1 teams.

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The moment they begin to dominate, they become boring.

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Honestly, it's almost all down to luck seeing which F1 team ends up being the new dominant team, especially when the regulations change so drastically.

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Because the recipe for success isn't a set in stone thing.

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average Ferrari strategy

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Seb did very well with this

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Man looks like a freaking screenshot from an 80s cop show, or an off-brand Sopranos episode

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Seriously, Carlos' face looks alot older than he actually is

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how old would you say he looks, uh... 55?

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Yeah about 50 seems appropriate

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He is the 4th oldest driver on the grid at the moment, but I'd argue even Alonso doesn't look as old as Carlos does

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No he looks 30

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Fernando looks like a man in his forties

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I don't know, Carlos looks older to me

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Fernando's age is showing no doubt

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But Carlos looks older with how much more defined his face is

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I actually had a rather cool dream last night

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I had went on a hiking trip with a tour, and that tour happened to have both Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll there

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I talked and chatted with them as we were climbing and hiking, very cool dudes

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I wonder what he actually meant

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Ferrari Engineer

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or psychologist

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either way, a Ferrari driver needs both

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That's a good point

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I wonder if Ferrari will ever fix this

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It's interesting how every team has unique problems

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Ferrari doesn't have a championship winning car and neither do most teams besides Red Bull and Mclaren
But Ferrari's problems are unique compared to say Alpine or Sauber

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Lets go through them eh?

McLaren - their golden boy and ceo is an unlikeable twat, plus they're still only a customer engine team which is working well for them now but does limit potential

Red Bull - basically running a one car team cause the cars setup window is so narrow that the only thing that can fit in it is a hair

Mercedes - Their problem is their car, they haven't gelled with the ground effect regulations at well and have been slow to improve. Engine is solid, drivers are solid. personnel has been solid.

Ferrari - Strategy team is incompetent and they have no consistency. 2nd fastest car last year to between 2nd and like 5th best car depending on the day.

Aston Martin - Lance Stroll

Williams - Inconsistent as all hell. And so far their car developments haven't been as good as their rivals so they fall back at some tracks.

VCARB - They can have a fast car sometimes, and a dog slow car others. Drivers i feel lack confidence sometimes cause when they do have it the car can get into the points without too much issue.

Alpine - Management

Haas - by far the smallest team on the grid, so they're very limited on what they can do. The car does have its moments but more often than not is towards the back.

Sauber - Tend to start off slow and waste development time fixing their mistakes. Pit crew needs work but they have improved on that recently

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Yup, that about sums it up

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Thank you zuu

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10 teams, 10 different problems with each of their situations

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AM's problem seems to be mostly same as Williams, lack of consistency

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This may change with 2026

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But at this point, they need to do more if they want to win

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Still is crazy to me how good Williams was in Miami, Imola and that other one

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But I suppose they were only bursts of momentary success

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Honestly, I wanna see every team operate at their best one day

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No compromise, no issues
Just see what everyone's capable of within their cars' limits

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I think we should either have a joker race or a non championship round. all cars are to the best spec of the current regs, all the same. send the drivers around a track that has a good mix of corners, bahrain or catalunya maybe? spa even

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equal cars

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A1GP tried this

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true

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crashed and burned

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feel like it could work now though, with more eyes on the sport than ever

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There's always formula e. A spec chassis single seat world championship

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Don't even put them in open wheel racers

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Do it like that 190E meredes race

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Grab like say a standard M340i and give all of them just that

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You are right about that

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But it has changed

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First few seasons what you say rung more true than nowadays

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Developments are more considerable now, chassis alterations, engines are almost entirely different

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It is good that the gap between the cars are less than ever while still bordering between a specialized and a spec series

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But what I wanna see them use is just a standard car

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Or hell, maybe even a hatchback

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Formula 2 exists ✌️
I'd love to see an exhibition weekend with a couple of F2 events running simultaneously. The regular F2 grid and a parallel one with the F1 drivers. Just to see.

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Could do that, true

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Nearly every F1 team has a F2 team as well

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Or well, equivalent so to speak

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Though I personally don't quite understand F2 so well

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There are teams, but not as per such like there are with F1

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The cars are equal, but of course not entirely equal in how each is tuned up

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I think F2 teams are just regional

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Say you're italian, you race for this team because they have an office in your country

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Perma I imagine

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I think it's a pretty standard spec car series. But the teams are pure Motorsport teams, not branded marketing exercises, so you'll sometimes see different liveries in the same team, following the drivers and paying for the whole thing

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Or am I thinking formula 3...

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That's kind of what confuses me

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Say there's a BWT spnonsored F2 team too

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but it's not related to Alpine

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All I can imagine is that the teams are truly unique and separate while all running the same car, maybe differing in each team's size and capactiy

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I think Perma racing is the biggest F2 team

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My guess is, and it is just a guess, each F2 team is related to every F1 team's driver academy
Where say you are part of alpine's driver academy, you go to race for the team that gets sponsored by both Alpine and BWT because normal Alpine runs that sponsor too

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So you also get F2 teams running F1 looking liveries because their junior academy is sponsoring a driver. But I'm sure sometimes you end up with that giving similarly liveried cars run by different teams.

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So there's say a Red Bull F2 team, an HP F2 team, a BWT F2 team, an Aramco F2 team and so on and so forht

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F2, and F3 teams are less interested in making their car Look like a Prema, or a Trident or whatever. They care ONLY about results, because that is what heir business is built on. So the highest bidder gets to paint the cars, but Prema does all the hard work.

If Ferrari was an F2 team, any old sponsor could come along and pay enough money to paint the whole car green or something. But if it wins, the results will still say Ferrari F2 team and everyone will want to race with them, bringing the cash

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I don't think any money would convince Ferrari to race outside of Red in F1

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Unless it was by choice, yeah it's unlikely

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The only occasion they became blue was in a protest I believe

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Yeah, when the Ferraris were ran by NART instead of the factory team

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And yeah F2 is less hampered by sponsorship and brand deals and obviously a far cheaper series to run

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68 i believe?

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Different F1 times

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64 sorry

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One by buying
The other by 3D modelling 🤣

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AM's I believe 2021 chassis was a Red Bull, no?

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Haas still does. Dallara still makes the chassis iirc

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then they copied the red bull sidepods in 22

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I mean Haas still technically tries to do a Ferrari as much as they can

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Where the car was famously a pink mercedes

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ohh right right yeah

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in that sense it was just an evolution of the rp20 then

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no red bull influence on the amr21

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That's true. it makers sense of course, they don't have much marketing capactiy, and the whole series is always meant to act as the support series to F1

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So makes sense that that'd carry over to some of their cars

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They don't need to do that kind of marketing, like a mercedes or red bull

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it's like those older teams' ghosts trying to redeem themselves

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They also do not need to make THAT much money off of their racing

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Oh, F2 and F3 teams are the ones that NEED to make money on the sport. F1 teams all probably make a loss

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Those feeder series teams don't sell much other than season long racing seats and sticker space on their cars. That's it, so all you're operation needs paid for by that.

All the F1 teams have a full business backing that up

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Maybe not sauber? Idk what else they get up to

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Of course, we are dealing with far differnet standards between each series

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I do wonder what'll eventually happen with Alpine

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Even if they manage to make a turn around, their glory days are so far gone, that the brand feels almost forgotten in the sport

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Renault/Benetton already survived through the 2010s by the skin of their nuts on the virtue of the Schumacher Benetton days and the Alonso Renault days

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But those days are so far behind them, and they haven't really been anything more than a top mid-field team at best since then

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No other team uses their engines anymore either

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Doesn't help that Alpine's rebrand into the world of cars and motorsport hasn't exactly been a breakout success either

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They don't make any SRO GT2 cars, any GT3 cars, the whole brand feels related to Renault and not exclusive neough

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They haven't done eough to warrent the brand change

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And with the making of the A390, they'll destroy whatever they had left

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And this isn't even touching on the pure shambles that their management on the F1 side has bee like

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The A110 has been loved by everyone that's touched it, they just refused to make a follow up.
Their tune up of the Renault 5 has also been really loved too, even if not as hardcore as the the old Clio RS line, but they could go further with it.
Then there's the fugly SUV. Ew.

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I think breaking off their Collab project with Lotus has hurt them both so so much

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And yeah the F1 team is a shambles. The team will have an ultimatum in 2026

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Exactly, they made one fantastic breakout sports car, and have been making it when every other brand has already moved on to a new model
Their only 2 new cars are a hot hatch and an ugly crossover

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But alas, it didn't happen and now Alpine just feels like a lesser Renault sport

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than actually Alpine

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Nah the Evija was a pure lotus UK project. And it is relatively lightweight for its class. Everything else they make is a heavyweight in class, which is a shame.

Lotus and Alpine were going to make a mid level EV sports car together and al the rumours I saw said 1200kg

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If it wwere true

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No reason it couldn't be

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It's really easy to make a lightweight electric car.

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Yeah, so easy nobody's done it yet

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Not on a major level anyway

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Tesla, Dacia, BMW, Abarth and Alpine have all made EVs lighter than the Emira it's not hard

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Yeah but not really in the form of full on sports cars

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Hell, a charging tech company in the UK did a 1200kg Elise based thing just to show off fast charging

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Wow, that actually looks good

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But anyways, Alpine are in a little bit of an identity crisis when the A110 disappears out the dealerships

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The F1 team struggling will not help, especially when they're marketing HARD the connection between the F1 car and the SUV.

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Which would be stupid even if they were winning championships on the regular imo

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And the Tesla Roadster isn't even its own car

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It's a Lotus testbed more like

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Exactly! A sports car should be designed FIRST to be light. None of these EVs were done like that and still came out lighter than anything lotus sells right now

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Who knows at this point

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Maybe Porsche with all thheir Macans and Caynennes will come into F1 again

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At least Porsche still sells some sports cars

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I don't think VAG would stump up the cash for two teams.

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there are merits and disadvantages to making EV cars

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Most of the current EVs' diaadvantages come from the general market

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Most EVs are luxury boats

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An already heavy design with a heavy battery pack and the brakes go yikes

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The merit is that the floor is completely balanced in terms of weight

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So if they can keep a car small and low, and also lightweight, it'd ne incredibly balanced

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If anyone wanted their branding to lift them in Motorsports these days, my money is on the Korean manufacturers (unlikely with Genesis just entering WEC) or perhaps a Chinese manufacturer, wanting to look more appealing in Europe now that they're here. Buying up an F1 team that Renault might want out of could make sense.

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THis is exactly my mindset too

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Chinese car makers and or possible funders for teams is a complete possibility in today's world
MBS and FIA want money, and nobody brings in more money than China
And China wanna promote their tech, and also show off tehri drivers' skill, as marketing for both the coountry and its industry
It feels super likely that a Chinese owner to one of the F1 teams will happen

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They can arrange the batteries however they want their cars' balance to be like

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There's enough manufacturering capability to make it happen in china. Question is, do they even need to bother?
Chinese cars sell well in china because the cars are aimed at what the Chinese buyer wants. Chinese cars are selling crazy well in Europe so far because they're cheaper than anything anyone else is making, and that says A LOT. On the right day, you can buy a big Chinese suv with a big juicy battery and pay LESS than renting a Citroen Ami from new it's MADNESS

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Do these companies need to blow a couple hundred million dollars to improve their image? The average buyer doesn't seem to mind

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It is, but of course, with the level of greed of theirs, it isn't unlikely that they'll want to further expand

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who knows, maybe they'll just end up beiig a title sponsor for one of the teams first, test out the waters

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And then buy out Alpine

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It'd be cool to see more general Motorsport interest in china. More sports cars, more sports editions.

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Like you said, it's not a matter of whether if they can or not, they definitely can run one, if not 10 different F1 teams
it's a matter of whether if it's something they care enough about
I'd say maybe they don't care so mch now, but given their cars becoming a mainstay in many racing series, the future indicates that they may enter bigger motorsport as well

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Oh yeah Lynk is in WTCC aren't they?

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Geely group, if I remember right

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I am not even sure if the Lynk&Co 03 is sold there or not

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They are always either extremely thin, or they're placed in an unusual spot, ot maybe even a monolight bar on front and back

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It's an odd thing that they're copying off of Koreans now

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Which I don't know why Koreans are doing it either

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I assume to stand out

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I think it comes from the companies being newer

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They've spent more of their time with LED strips and daytime running lights than BMW has

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Maybe? Maybe it's them trying to stand out, maybe it's a trendy design in Korean and Chinese domestic car markets
Of course, eventually every domestic trend bleeds out to everywhere else too
You see Japanese cars with weird headlights too now

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Chinese car designs aren't bad or anything
just feels like they're being intentionaly quirky than timeless

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I really like the Lynk&Co 03 but it really isn't that pretty
Feels more like a gimmick design

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Well they don't have so many iconic timeless designs going back decades and decades and decades to be inspired by

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But they also don't have many of the established designers either

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All and all, I am sure they'll improve as they go along

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It's a whole national industry where everyone is relatively new to the game.

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They already at least have their own distinct design language
Way more than I can say for most American cars of today

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Which are all just universally blocky and ugly

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They'll eventually reach a level of history as well

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who knows, maybe they'll even take over other brands

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW-sgpesiXY

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"I never really liked my teammates, EXCEPT this one..." | Ralf Schu...

Ralf Schumacher discusses the relationships he had with his teammates in F1. And whether he would've liked to have ever been on the same team as his brother Michael.

This episode was recorded in December 2023. You can listen to brand new episodes of FFS! every Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you get your podcasts.

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I like the bluntness present in these talks

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They really already spent so much time going at each others' throats that they really don't mind the harsh words and terms anymore

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Also, Eddie's misinput was hilarious

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"What about Clouthard, if he was your Teammate could you have easily blown him off?"

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Maybe he knew before it became public domain xd

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okay i thought this tweet was gonna be an overexaggaration or something

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but no bro is really fucking good

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That sounded aweesome

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His voice isn't bad either

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I quite approve

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It's interesting how much different Ferrari's problems were then compared to now

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Back then they just didn't have the car, the strategies weren't the problem

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Now they don't have strategies, and their car is only a winner on the best of days

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The car has issues too now

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Not as severe but the suspension and floor misjudgements on the design have fucked them over quite hard

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Everyone else is running lower than them

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And doesn’t have plan wear issues

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Yeah as I said

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The car's only a winner on best of days

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There's definitely problems, little things that add up

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Ridiculous

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I don't get the joke however with why Oscar went and got an Alpine shirt

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thats a piastri f2 merch tshirt a fan owns

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from way back when

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XD

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yeah pricing is insane. Not on Oscar tho, the Australian GP ticket prices for this year are insane. Its 800 on the straight, or turn 1, or piastri grandstand

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suzuka was fucking 130 euros 3 days

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thats insanely cheap man

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spa was also cheap and its SPA

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Yeah this is why I dislike these prices

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They're expensive, but not consistent

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You have tracks like Las vegas, miami and Australia with insane prices

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And then Spa or Suzuka, considerably more significant tracks, considerably cheaper

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Bottas and Perez for Cadillac looks more and more likely

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The most obvious options for them.

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I'll be happy for those two to get another chance

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There are still talks that Valtteri will be racing for Alpine

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Which makes sense given they'll be using Mercedes PUs in 2026

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That's really impressive record

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Vallteri Bottttas

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Gotta be funny to be Seb

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You come into sport, as a young rookie, thawrting your senior teammate

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And then have that happen to you as well on two separate occasions

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Daniel with Red Bull and Charles with Ferrari

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Imagine saying no to that. 😂😂😂

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👀

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Bro's acting like he's gonna win a championship

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Oh

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Oops

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XD

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I was worried for a second

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Thank you for coming to my ted talk

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Pfffft

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  • Ferrari- Team and brand founded by Enzo Ferrari
  • Mclaren - Team founded by Bruce McLaren
  • Williams - Team founded by Frank Williams
  • Sauber - Team founded by Peter Sauber
  • Mercedes-AMG - Brand founded by Karl Benz, named after Mercédès Jellinek, and AMG standing for Aufrecht and Melcher, the founders, and Großaspach, the place of founding
  • Haas - Team founded by Gene Haas
  • Aston Martin - Brand founded by Robert Bamford and Lionel Martin and the Aston Clinton hill climb
  • Alpine - Brand founded by Jean Rédélé whose favorite driving roads were the winding roads of the Alps mountain range
  • Red Bull - Team founded by Red Bull, name based on Krating Daeng, which translates to "red bison" or "red bull" in English from Thai
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it's essentially some businssman coming in and taking advantage of your work to sell it to globe

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So it's not a surprise you forgot. Hell, I had no idea about it until I looked it up myself while looking for the origins of these names

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They barely touch on this

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Well if you are gonna mention jellinek who didn’t give much apart from the name Mercedes (he separated from the group later while maybach and Benz stayed)

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That’s why I thought I’d mention it

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And the comments were like, didn’t they have anyone not Japanese to do that? And the other is a Dutch so just as bad XD

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As for Jellinek

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Well, the name's brand comes from them

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Kind of significant regardless of real life circumstance

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True

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Let's be real, Red Bull right now is such a weird brand

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their brand identity lies within so many deficits, it's amazing they manage to exist at all

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They somehow still have managed to stay afloat

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Especially WCC wise

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Let's be real, it's an exception, not the rule

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Maybe it’s thanks to Ferrari and Mercedes not getting their shit together either

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As for their F1 success, we can thank others for it I think

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And somehow Mr Sees-Aerodyanmics-of-a-cow

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Like, I genuinely refuse to believe he's somehow different from any other aero designer

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People are right to say Horner got sacked rightfully

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And that Helmut Marko has also outstayed his welcome

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Oh absolutely

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But those 2 if you go 10 years ago, are the 2 people along with newey that built redbull

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Success doesn't excuse people

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Can’t undermine that, even if Horner is a terrible person or whatever I am talking specifically team wise success

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And to be truthful, back then, they were considerably better people
When a team is in such shambles, it is easy to be more motivated and actually be a half decent person

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But when the team is great, you start getting distracted and arrogant

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Also this redbull project wasn’t a sure fire success not even with newey

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It is the reason Alonso denied neweys offer and went to Ferrari

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Had he known the future, he could have those 4 championships vettel won

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For sure

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Speculation of course

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And to be honest, I am glad it didn't happen

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But you get my point

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Those Championships ruined Vettel's reputation

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Ferrari was more appealing then even if Redbull had a newey design car

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We don't like people who win too much

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Ferrari is always the correct choice between any team offer

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Like Vettel said, everyone is a Ferrari fan

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People loved vettel more when he was getting fucked over by Ferrari and being a runner up

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But in reality it always has been the same guy

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Which is a shame

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And if you manage to find success in a Ferrari, your name will be written inpure gold

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Albeit young vettel was a lot more aggressive on track, but personality wise, same guy

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Though to be fair, part of it is justifiable as well with how we know Webber was treated in their time

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Red Bull paddock was always very toxic once they were competitive

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Webber’s treatment was because of Vettel existing but it’s not like he schemed about it

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That’s just when the typical RB no2 bullshit started

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Well, one doesn't have to be at fault for them to not be seen as part of the problem

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Same story with practically every team

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Red Bull has two prime examples of this

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3 if you count Ricciardo

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Well if we are being honest to ourselves I think Alonso got screwed much harder in McLaren

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Oh for sure

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There's always worse examples of bad treatment

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and Mclaren is practically notorious for it

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Not in his later stint, the one where Alonso got a massive championship winning promise and then McLaren fucked him over for the young upcoming star

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His mclaren years were truly a shame

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I cannot express how glad I am that he returned from retirement

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Because if that was the end to his story, it would have been a crying shame

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At least now he is a beloved image of the oldest driver on the grid, while still feeling as young as he did back in his debut

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F1 is an interesting sport, where we sometimes hardly even care about the actual racing

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Just seeing certain drivers on the grid is enough

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And if they do manage a podium or a win? Their name will be spoken like they were a living legend

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2023 was a golden year for Alonso, 2024 double podium for Alpine, Kevin Magnussen famous Haas performance, 2025 Nico Hulkenberg podium

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Okay so twitter drive to survive f1 fans are just starting to grasp the fact that f1 drivers are rich

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They are complaining about the drivers wearing Richard Milles

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“That’s the price of a home on a watch”

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Literally if a person that has as much money as them where is he supposed to spend it if it isn’t cars and luxury

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"Who would have thought a sport made by rich people, for rich people, entertained by rich people, would have rich people in it."

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F1 is literally the most wasteful and glamorous sport on the planet

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It's amazing when they JUST grasp this

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Something productive

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Well most drivers have all that too

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I mean doesn't Lewis hamilton have a clothing company under him?

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I think they deserve to own luxury items

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Plus isn’t F1 literally sponsored by Richard Mille now that Rolex left

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Nobody deserves anything, they've earned to be having such items because they managed to be some of the few who survived on this scene

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So maybe they are even obliged to wear them XD

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it's mostly how it is, yeah

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Regardless, I myself would do something considerably more productive if I had that sort of spare cash
but then again, why would I know how I'd be if I got to be that stinking rich

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Cause f1 is not even the top 1% of drivers. It’s the top 0.0 if we are being realistic

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They choose how to spend it

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besides, not all of the grid are equally rich either

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Like Esteban

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Like genuinely the only rich as fuck driver that does non of this shit is Max

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Pretty much

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To him, life would be exactly the same if he had only 1% of his current wealth

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Same with some of the other drivers

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Nah max buys cars cars cars and race cars

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Unlike Lewis Hamilton, who practically makes fashion his whole thing

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And somehow he never looks good in anything

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Or maybe I am not fashionably intelligent enough to get it

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High fashion is not for us

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I understand why everything is so over the top there but that’s where it stops for me

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I don’t imitate it nor do I wish I had it

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Especially in lesser able countries

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So I guess we’re never gonna know

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Maybe you'r right, maybe they are already funding many charities

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But to me, I wouldn't mind if they said it openly either

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Maybe they aren’t

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Some of these charities are significant

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Significant enough for it to be okay to flaunt a bit

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But oh well, who's to say rich people care about any of this

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None of these drivers have ever had finanical difficulty in their lives post their F1 debut

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So it's easy to imagine they don't even think normal living really exists anymore

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It's not even due to arrogance, they've just been disconnected from this part of reality for so long

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Lewis does more activism than any of the other drivers these days. At least that we hear about

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I don't think you forget what being a normal person is like because you suddenly end up a millionaire through one of the most high pressure sports ever invented.

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I completely believe it is normal to happen

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I think it depends on who you were. I know a lot of people who believe in the hustle grind set shite. That they're destined to be rich because they are trying the hardest out of anyone. I think people like that wouldn't be changed by money, they'd become the arrogant rich guy they always believed they were when broke.

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Not saying it's everyone

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But it's extremely common

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Then again, why am I even pretending to understand rich people

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It's a completely different world

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If Jeff b*zos ever gives me his billions I'll tell you what it's like ✌️

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Hehe

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Wouldn't mind being rich enough to have new kind of worries for at least a day

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It would cost 20% of his net worth to make all the people in this server billionaires

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Indeed

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If someone made a billion every year they lived, they still wouldn't have as much money that Jeff Bezos has

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Some Kuwaiti investment dude, Saad Kassis-Mohamed, has been announcing he wants to create a 12th F1 team. And the wackiest part of the rumour is that he wants to bring the Caterham name to that team 🤣

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I mean I am more than open to a 12th backmarker team, and who better than Caterham

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But being for real, this all sounds very iffy and fake

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This guy has he money to make it happen. But he doesn't sound like he has anything else you need to make an F1 team. And the FIA absolutely DOES NOT want a pitiful back marker like the triple threat of slow cars we had from HRT, Caterham and Virgin

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Indeed, they fucked up with those 3's arrival

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It wasn't even the teams' fault, but rather FIA itself bringing them on based on a cost cap measure which never came

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As for this case, indeed if the person doesn't have proper facilities that at least get to the standards of say Haas, he has no hope of having a team that's even remotely competitive

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I wonder what happened to all the Hispania team, being an F1 team that was actually not from the UK

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HRT? They had immense cost measure problems

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With a lack of sponsorship

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It's a shame that seemingly every team that's not from UK or doesn't have a facility there seems to be destined for failure

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Makes it sad for national representation

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I mean after F1. There was a facility capable of building carbon fibre F1 cars, and the talent to do it. I'm wondering what happened after

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Costs and lack of real goals I imagine

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Yes but the equipment and the people.

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There's no point binning it all, right?

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Of course there's not

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But let's be real, the people who fund these often lose all wish to continue to the point where evn the talent involved ends up basically going nowhee after the fiasco is done

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It's a waste, and I can only hope these people went on to find careers elsewhere in this field

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These guys play football pretty well

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man crashed the hardest too

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Unlike most crash prone rookies, like Latifi, Mazepin, Schumacher, Stroll, he isn't even a paid driver

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He just had no skill in F1 seemingly

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Guess he was more like Mick Schumacher in more ways than 1

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Logan wasn’t a top tier talent or anything

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But remember they kicked him and hired colapinto to reduce damage costs…

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Fucking ironic XD

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Indeed, though to be fair, Colapinto hasn't been as bad

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Like it amazes me how much he crashed

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It's like he was on a F1 2024 challenge run of seeing how quickly he would get sacked

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"colapinto wasnt that bad"

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in a time where every cent matters to them he keeps it on the road

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He definitely helps them immensely with that indeed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w2FAdIuy50 f1 uploaded for @severe spindle today

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05:37 San Marino 2005
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I saw this video get recommended indeed

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And indeed, feels like an upload for me
And I am sure many others here too

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Monaco

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All and all, all of it sounds like nonsense excuses to me

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ive driven it enough in F1 2020 in both F1 and F2 cars to tell you its an abyssmal circuit XD

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None of rhe games I've played with have had the track

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Not a country known for Motorsport

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the track rhythm is off

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the turns are not satisfying

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some corners exist just for the sake of existing and offer nothing

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I mean I thinkt hat sounds kind of silly

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No corner ever exists for any reason other than to exist

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a corner can offer an overtake opportunity

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Hell that's why so many tracks over time inserted artifical chicanes over time

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To keep teh racing close

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that's what corners do

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the most compromised sector is like sector 1 i think

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but the other sectors are worse if anything

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I don't disagree that the circuit definitely feels rather random

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And do note, no game besides F1 games has Albert park

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I didn't even know the circuit existed until I played F1 Challenge, so I was completely new to it

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its not iconic or whatever but its simple enough to be fun

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it's simple but some turns do catch you off gaurd
They do to me at least
I'm never that fast around it

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sochi on the other hand... has maybe 1 memorable corner and thats turn 3

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I think it also has to do with the number of turns

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Most memorable circuits have fewer than 15 turns

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Some less than 10

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well that can be false cause some circuits have what we call fake corners

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basically some circuits tend to count every little bend as a corner

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Tracks like Spa only stand out because of how varied each turn is, hence it doesn't become so boring unlike Sochi
Which has none of that elevation change

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the problem with sochi is that as soon as you leave sector 1

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just look how many 90 degree bends theyve unnecesarily flooded the track with

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only way to tell where you are is which way youre facing XD

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Yeah I can see what you mean

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Many of those turns are blind too

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so it makes it even more scary

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baku is a lot scarier

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but at least that track has beautiful scenery

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elevation change

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other stuff going for it

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it's also a street circuit

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Which elevates it by default

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yes of course

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and the corners are so narrow because its a street circuit as well

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many of the street circuits' issues can be considered compromises due to them being based on streets

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Sochi didn't have such an excuse

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in sochi's case it feels like they tried to replicate that, with a circuit... why

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Kind of like Miami hehe

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miami has 1 huge excuse

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THough I frankly have no idea which city streets Miami is based on

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Someone said it's based on a parking lot actually

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and that is that the track couldnt be built if the plan given compromised the LEAST parking spots possible

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thats the american way

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it's still silly

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But yeah still more of an excuse

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Besides, the way I understand it, Russia already has an F1 grade circuit at moscow

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So it only makes sense that tey used that instead

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Looking at its map, it looks far more flowing as well

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that is miami when there isnt a circuit

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Seriously?

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Bruh

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They waste so much money setting everything up once per year

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Could have just built a permanent circuit instead

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over 26 thousand parking spaces

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Hell, I understand money is a thing, but it isn't like US has any shortage of circuits, so why not use any of those?

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44 parking lots

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They already use all of them in Indycar

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Or NASCAR, or IMSA

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so as you can see here

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the track is built with the thought of losing as little parking spaces as possible

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because america

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because america

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resulted in the most bloated looking circuit I've ever seen

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the stadium fits 65k people (for football or whatever it is for right)

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those 65k people bring over 27k cars to watch a game

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Good lord...

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American population of just one city, may I add

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They outdo the car count of some countries with just one city

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so yeah

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miami gp shouldnt exist and everyone hates it

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i agree

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but its an american gp made in the "american way"

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and thats why the layout is so compromised (shit)

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it's ironically the most poetically accurate circuit of the entire calender

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yup

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las vegas too

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the circuit of greed

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in the city of greed

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and the circuit perfectly fits it

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ironic that it produces a great race tho XD

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I will never forget that first year of Las Begas
So much money spent on showing off the wealth and power

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im with max on that

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Only to have a pothole problem on the actual circuit

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love the circuit, hate the spectacle

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Like.. mygod, that's the funniest thing ever

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I suppose its layout isn't the issue then

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But yeah

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F1 as a whole has changed

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used to be alot more tin-top

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las vegas for those fat ass cars unironically is one of the circuits that fit them the most

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Nowadays, being based in places like US, Qatar, Saudi, really shows the modern direction

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ironic how its probably the least thought out circuit (in terms of layout) on the calendar

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Fact is, the sport is way too costly right now

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Never did it make sense for a single F1 team to be team 1 billion dollars

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i am still of the belief that if qidiya comes into existence

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So they have to do races like this just to keep that flow of cash

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we will wish we were back to now

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What's qidiya?

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the new circuit that will replace jeddah

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the one with a floating RGB sector over a hotel

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Oh god I remember

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Will say, Jeddah is no favorite of anyone, but being replaced bby that? Jesus christ

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yeah its an even worse show of greed than vegas with the sphere

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yeah if circuits like that come into play, we'll miss even a period like right now

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would prolly be one of the best if not for the walls they built

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Absolutely
At its worst it's just meh

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It's not a fundementally bad track

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yeah it looks like a sperm cell but other than that

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And it definitely isn't as bad as qidiya is suppsed to be

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the track is good

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Will say, if F1 keeps heading in this direction, I'll tune out of it eventually

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one hundred and eight meters above ground...

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# granite tangle yeah.. XD

Jesus fucking christ
THis is a racing circuit, the most wasteful form of money spending possible, in a country whose people below the poverty line don't even have working sewages

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if they end up building that

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they will have to build a fucking 20 metre tall cage around it

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that defeats the purpose of the ramp

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or someone is gonna die

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pick and choose FIA and mohammed ben slimeybastard

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Hahaha, yeah at that point what would even be the point of it
Even an F1 car with that much downforce, should it catch any air, will fly right off that edge into god knows where

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Just saying

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Race cars have flown off over much smaller hills

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i share the same thoughts with you man of tweet

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Surely there is ONE Saudi Arabian risk assessor

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I can't even imagine it being healthy for the drivers who have to endure such an insane elevation change with their ears plugging

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thats not too much of a problem for them i feel

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i watched carlos sainz dive 12 metres immediately without stopping

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At this point they'll replace the drivers with AI

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which is freakish for someone that isnt a pro diver

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That is insane indeed

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But still

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this is crazy too

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yeah the elevation aint the issue but rather the risk of something terrible happening

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noone is gonna go 100% there

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Absolutely

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and if something does happen itll be way worse than even a car landing on a grandstand

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a car flying off into a hotel... could kill thousands upon thousands of people

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Man what a world we living in

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sugar boy would be fuming at this

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(he hates palou)

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Hahaha, he does indeed, I remember

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Will say, this news does come somewhat unexpectedly

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I mean to be honest I was more so expecting Hadjar as a possible candidate for a driver they'd upgrade to the Red Bull seat, but guess it'd be quite a twist to have Alex Palou in there

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He was supposed to race for Mclaren anyway, and I am sure he doesn't wanna stay in the Indycar hell any longer either

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We have to expect maximum nonsense from red bull though

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For 2026, it's definitely quite difficult to speak with certatinty

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But as a whole, yeah I don't imagine it'd be an enviroment he'd be so excited about after he makes it

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it's ridiculous how many drivers Red Bull has gone through in the last 2 years alone

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Both the main team and VCARB

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I just hope they find a bit of groundedness

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For 2026, they're putting alot of eggs in one basket, given they're developing a whole new engine all by themselves

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Without Adrian Newey, without Christian Horner, and without a concrete 2nd seat driver, it's a risky endevour

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Frankly, they might still have a top team car for 2026, or maybe be top of the mid-field, but I don't see them being championship contenders

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Aston Martin on the other hand, they have high expectations put on them
Same good PUs as Red Bull from the last couple of years from Honda, Adrian Newey and Fernando Alonso on their side

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maybe we'll see a repeat of 2023 with them

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Oh yeah I do wonder what Honda are up to

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With the PU rules changing next season, is the Red Bull Ford power train (which will be a dev of the old Honda one next year? Is next years honda going to be a totally unrelated machine? It would be interesting to learn about it

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Surely would be

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I am not sure to be honest, but I do hope their PUs stay good for 2026 as well

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Cause otherwise, Aston would have thrown money into fire

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Some of the headlines about 400k straight line speed are wild

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