I think there's a few more, but regardless
#Motorsports
glacial pine
There is also "woman with crush on Carlos Sainz" in one scene. No other woman on screen is a character thoug
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Folks have said that the initial Daytona Indycar scene felt better done than the F1 scenes
Which is... honestly superbly ironic, given the title of the movie and it promoting what it wasn't to promote xd
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There is also "woman with crush on Carlos Sainz" in one scene. No other woman on...
Yeah I don't mean as characters
also, woman with crush on Sainz, that's just realistic xd
glacial pine
Folks have said that the initial Daytona Indycar scene felt better done than the...
Nah Daytona was AMAZING. The secret was they just... Entered that car in that paint job to Daytona 24h and ran it and filmed it.
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Man's probably the most handsome F1 driver of all time
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Nah Daytona was AMAZING. The secret was they just... Entered that car in that pa...
Oh really? That explains why it feels much more real
That would play a huge role, no doubt
I would love to watch the movie to watch that scene alone
Not alot of knowledge on Indycar, so it'd help
glacial pine
It's a fun watch. I did have a good time in the cinema
lofty mirage
glacial pine
My energy for at least 45% of it though
lofty mirage
lol
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My energy for at least 45% of it though
That's understandable frustration
glacial pine
Formula E finally has a full house for the rookie testing at Berlin this weekend. Some interesting faces and some familiar faces
glacial pine
This is a test day for rookies
A few F2 drivers have made a sideways jump into formula E before. It wouldn't be unheard of.
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Formula E finally has a full house for the rookie testing at Berlin this weekend...
Wow, there's alot more women in this than I expected
Prety cool teams too
glacial pine
Wow, there's alot more women in this than I expected
Like F1, FE had more women racing in the early years. Simona De Silvestro (team Andretti at the end of Season 1 into season 2), Katherine Legge (Team Amlin Aguri for two races) and Michela Ceruti (team Trulli for four races in season 1) all drove, with only Silvestro managing to score points, but as the other two were in notably slow cars this isn't surprising.
severe spindle
Wait, team aguri and trulli?
Are these related to Suzki Aguri and Jarno Trulli?
glacial pine
Yes and yes
glacial pine
Trulli was made out of a failed attempt at a team by Drayson Racing
Formula E in its early years was like that.
I'll never forget watching Prost, Piquet and Senna racing together
glacial pine
Nah they were just drivers
glacial pine
Nico Prost, Bruno Senna and Nelson Piquet Jr
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Oh a shame then, but still cool to see them tace
Understandable
It's still cool
Formula E is cool
glacial pine
Alain was on board with the Renault team, I'd assume in an advisory role with Nico racing.
Nelson jr won the whole championship and his his father refused to come to the final race to see if he'd win
He beat Buemi to the title by a single point
glacial pine
Maybe nelson sr is just a wanker or hates his son or didnt respect the (quite slow) formula e cars worth watching. Still rude
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Definitely
He is known to be a bit of a wanker
Calling drivers names
Being generally bitter
He's still a 3 time WDC, a legend to be sure
But a less than ideal legend
Kind of accurate to Nelson himself then
Since his father didn't approve him racing either
So he ended up being the same to his son once he began being successful
glacial pine
Tell you what, the Wikipedia table for season 1 drivers standings is FASCINATING because 35 people raced that year
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The incredible thing about Formula E
Is that every year's WDC is different
Keeps things very different to F1
glacial pine
Spec chassis and restricted power output. it was always going to keep things close
glacial pine
Only Vergne has won it twice.
And that's twice in a row with two different powertrains, once in the Gen1 car then the next year was Gen2
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That's impressive skill
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Formula E finally has a full house for the rookie testing at Berlin this weekend...
I see some amazing deserving women of a seat, and I also see Bianca bustamante
Someone is begging for voters !!!
pale tinsel
Just seen this
glacial pine
I see some amazing deserving women of a seat, and I also see Bianca bustamante
I will be watching closely. Chadwick is getting the breath of experience across different things that will have lots of teams in lots of places looking at her.
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https://x.com/autosport/status/1942550757926134173?s=46
V8 would be nice
Shouldn't even be too hard
Just use hybrid V8s
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Hahaha
that Mclaren situation is true
Suffice to say, Kick's merch sales will shoot up
Suddenly, they went from the team everyone made fun of
To an underdog which they all wanna see win
It's almost exactly what happened with Haas that one time
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Good video
it's interesting how the regs known today as Class 1 were all progenerated from this car
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strong kite
oh no! my steak is too juicy!
strong kite
idk
lofty mirage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ebiYVigRhI
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279939366684332042/1326991857972019211/a...
Maybe, but the video seemed legit
THe concerns are understandable regarding the upcoming regulations
The cars are slippery and a bit smaller, which makes them more exciting in races, no doubt
strong kite
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279939366684332042/1326991857972019211/a...
I'm taking this image with me Furxy
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But having so much of the power be down to the battery, and neeeding to battery manage especially in certain tracks
it does seem like a valid concern
lofty mirage
I'm taking this image with me Furxy
np
lofty mirage
But having so much of the power be down to the battery, and neeeding to battery ...
we'll see
lofty mirage
yep
glacial pine
They need bigger batteries. They haven't had big enough batteries since 2013
lofty mirage
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They need bigger batteries. They haven't had big enough batteries since 2013
THey also need better and more leinant manegment
But yeah better batteries are needed
Which I hope they add, rather than artifically keep away for the sake of "entertainment"
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https://vxtwitter.com/F1BigData/status/1942632335108669858 woah
Really? He ignored the team? Guess the team is still struggling then
Guess Sauber is in a similar situation to Ferrari
A Driver has to both drive and also plan
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I am annoyed by something
I keep wanting to play some F1 games
But the most moddable sim games I can't seem to run
F1 Challenge VB is far too big
And the games in the middle don't have many mods
I can't even find a way to download F1 2010
I am kind of stumped for options
lofty mirage
hmm
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Maybe I should get GTR 2 and mod that
lofty mirage
is your pc powerful enough to emulate a ps2?
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The biggest issue is also the fact that I don't have a wheel
And only the F1 codemaster games are playable with a controller
F1 Challenge just doesn't have any way for me to adjust for the steering to not throw around
making it difficult to give steering adjustment
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is your pc powerful enough to emulate a ps2?
It isn't sadly
But really, that's not got anything to do with my Specs
lofty mirage
ik ik
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PS2 emulation requires cores and CPU which i don't have
lofty mirage
ps2 emulation can be tricky for some devices
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Otherwise I can run PC games up to 2012 pretty easily
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ps2 emulation can be tricky for some devices
Especially my laptop
I've tried numurious times
I need a guide to understanding how accessible and moddable every F1 game is
And F1 Challenge mods are awful
They change the game's UI entirely
granite tangle
Really? He ignored the team? Guess the team is still struggling then
he didnt ignore them he just gave his input and his team followed
every single team rushed to box when the big group of verstappen and piastri pitted
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every single team rushed to box when the big group of verstappen and piastri pit...
I can see why it caused that
Hulk showed good wisdom
But he did still ignore the team orders
Suffice to say, this race was a one man show for Hulk then
Makes me feel disheartned honestly
Especially for the idea that Sauber would actually live up for the future GPs
lofty mirage
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lofty mirage
lol
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I'm kind of disappointed that Ricciardo hasn't sent even a tweet shouting out Hulk's podium
He's kind of left the whole thing so far behind that he doesn't even talk about it
Though I do need to ask, why did Ricciardo retire from F1 so early? Was he dropped or did he just not wanna bother
Considering many older than him still race, his career seemed short lived
granite tangle
Though I do need to ask, why did Ricciardo retire from F1 so early? Was he dropp...
Dropped plus ever since he joined McLaren teams have only treated him as horribly as possible
granite tangle
I'm kind of disappointed that Ricciardo hasn't sent even a tweet shouting out Hu...
Not everything has to be public, most of the drivers with a not so nice exit to f1 drop the whole PR gimmick of doing everything publicly
I mean you see max for example congratulating Nico on his instagram, but do you really think he’s the one managing that? Same with every other social media and driver apart from a very few
granite tangle
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pale tinsel
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I mean you see max for example congratulating Nico on his instagram, but do you ...
I mean I guess
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Dropped plus ever since he joined McLaren teams have only treated him as horribl...
Why so?
granite tangle
Why so?
got treated like shit at mclaren, they not only had a terrible car but actively destroyed ricciardo's confidence by showing massive favoritism (and according to some rumours going as far to sabotage him) towards a much younger promising lando norris
then he joined racing bulls and while he didnt look amazing he did nothing wrong either, and still got sacked without warning
pale tinsel
I get the reasoning why he left Red Bull, but man he really should have stayed in hindsight
Renault was a decent move at the time though, but seeing them now absolutely not
@granite tangle
HUGE NEWS
APPARENTLY THE HORNY HAS BEEN AXED
^same guy that dropped the hamilton news
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CHRISTIAN HORNY GONE
BBC guys reporting it too, so its pretty much confirmed
and there's the confirmation
@granite tangle Verstappen out?
me rn
https://x.com/F1/status/1942880588199063747?t=RsCrQ-uZX6UecJX4eh52fg&s=19
can't be more official than this
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then he joined racing bulls and while he didnt look amazing he did nothing wrong...
That is really sad to hear
No wonder the man looked so broken in his final years
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https://x.com/F1/status/1942880588199063747?t=RsCrQ-uZX6UecJX4eh52fg&s=19
can't...
That is incredible, I never would have expected this
We all thought Max might leave, not Horner
Guess even he feels done with the Red Bull state
pale tinsel
Imagine Tsunoda starts performing now
pale tinsel
Guess even he feels done with the Red Bull state
nah, Horner was sacked. He was pushed before he could walk so to speak
Darth Marko might have just orgasmed to death at this news
Allegedly Horner was gonna replace him with Vettel
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Toto Wolff and Fat Brown rn
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Allegedly Horner was gonna replace him with Vettel
pffft, that's incredible
But honestly, I am really upset to see what's happening in Red Bull right now
Literally the most incompetent team on the grid
pale tinsel
Excuse me?
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They dominate for 4 seasons and then drop teh ball this hard
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nah, Horner was sacked. He was pushed before he could walk so to speak
FUcking idiots run Red Bull I swear
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And Red Bull is now on par with them
Plus, I'd recokon Ferrari isn't nearly as incompetent as either
pale tinsel
2023, Red Bull dominates winning 23 of 24 races
2 years later
Newey, Wheatley, Marshall and Horner all gone
Verstappen possibly going
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just 2 years it took
It goes to show that their past success wasn't something integral to their working
and was just due to buying the best of everything
and max just accidentaly being the world's greatest modern driver
Could have easily been someone else
Such is racing of course, it's about luck alot of the time
And theirs ran out
pale tinsel
wonder how Marios processing this information
pale tinsel
granite tangle
insomnia is where its at
well seeing as i slept 30 minutes last night, i think to sleep 2 hours in the middle of the day is something i deserved
@pale tinsel https://x.com/formulafakers/status/1922219420719468997 THEY ARE BACK
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@pale tinsel wait i just realized
man
youre gonna love this
christian horner to FERRARI !!!
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pale tinsel
christian horner to FERRARI !!!
#1373356149361086514 message
#1373356149361086514 message
granite tangle
https://discord.com/channels/306399123148374016/1373356149361086514/139243821617...
hahahahha
sorry i mustve scrolled past that
granite tangle
i wonder if max will leave then cause its a weird situation
pale tinsel
This is nearly as big as the hamilton to ferrari announcement
granite tangle
some sources say max "might stay" after horner sacking
also there's max's contract but the one who is even more jailed is GP
and if max leaves he for sure wants to take him with him
pale tinsel
i wonder if max will leave then cause its a weird situation
There's only 2 ways this has happened
Horner was sacked to keep the Verstappen camp onside
Horner was sacked because Verstappens out the door
pale tinsel
ALL I'M SAYING IS
Ferrari has double agents all over the grid, ready to burn down teams if necessary
granite tangle
its like parents buying blue or pink for the baby
am i buying a tshirt with mercedes on it or red bull
pale tinsel
Laurent Mekies now at Red Bull
James Allison at Mercedes
Andrea Stella at McLaren
Mattia Binotto at Sauber/Audi
David Sanchez at Alpine
Enrico Cardile at Aston Martin
granite tangle
ALL I'M SAYING IS
Ferrari has double agents all over the grid, ready to burn dow...
all ill say is i never once blamed binotto and he for sure wasnt at fault in ferrari
pale tinsel
oh no doubt
granite tangle
and look what the man is doing in sauber
they for sure have turned a big page around
you will have seen that
pale tinsel
but Binotto was def not team principal material
Saubers probably more on Wheatley
Binotto isn't too much involved iirc, until it actually becomes Audi next year
granite tangle
he wasnt but he def was of great use before his promotion
outright sacking him was funny at best to me
pale tinsel
Yeah he was the one who did the sus engines lmao
Imagine Red Bull having the hornys successor in their hands only to lose him to Sauber cause you didn't sack horner last year like they were supposed to
granite tangle
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pale tinsel
Used to be at McLaren
granite tangle
hes coming...
pale tinsel
mclaren were shite and as soon as he left they started being good
pale tinsel
hes coming...
pale tinsel
you know you asked me if i would do it if i was in toto's shoes
i never thought to ask you the same, so I'm asking now
granite tangle
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pale tinsel
Would you?
pale tinsel
https://x.com/cytrusf1/status/1942906023401918946
I have the google drive and bloody hell
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granite tangle
Would you?
i dont answer because its unfair to ask a very biased person
youll get a very biased answer
pale tinsel
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pale tinsel
i dont answer because its unfair to ask a very biased person
and yet here i am, asking anyway
lofty mirage
woah todays chat is quite alive
granite tangle
and yet here i am, asking anyway
i would 100% trust max verstappen to bring mercedes back to glory instead of george russel yes
pale tinsel
So you'd go Max and Kimi, drop george even after investing so much into his career and him being a solid front running driver?
lofty mirage
apparently Alan Permane will replace Horner
pale tinsel
Laurent Mekies
lofty mirage
ohh
pale tinsel
Permane replaced Mekies at VCARB
lofty mirage
i read it wrong
pale tinsel
glacial pine
https://x.com/TrafficParadiso/status/1942881918418350294?t=ZLZU-25-OdVsr1UAn0hnt...
Christian Horner formula e rookie test WHEN!?!?!?
granite tangle
Christian Horner formula e rookie test WHEN!?!?!?
are you sure you want him near so many women
glacial pine
It's formula e, if he gets weird they can just ram him
granite tangle
So you'd go Max and Kimi, drop george even after investing so much into his care...
it sounds delusional but also, max is a 4 time world champion and basically same age as george, hes a veteran and young theres no other driver on the grid like that. hes also great with rookies and he could even help develop kimi even faster (imo kimi is very similar to young torro rosso max)
glacial pine
Is max Verstappen great alongside a rookie?
granite tangle
Is max Verstappen great alongside a rookie?
max has not had any issue ever with a teammate
it was the teammates that didnt want it
the only thing people bring up with the whole "max is a terrible teammate" gimmick is him being competitive and refusing to give (or give back) positions to teammates
glacial pine
The teammates didn't want to be in a car they couldn't drive.
I would KILL to see max have to fight against his teammate. I doubt that would be as graceful as McLaren this year
granite tangle
The teammates didn't want to be in a car they couldn't drive.
I would KILL to s...
ricciardo and max were killing each other on track and at their worst they did not reach the friendliest rosberg hamilton race
and that rosberg hamilton team won just fine
glacial pine
Lewis and Nico did have mega history
Max and Ocon on a team together... Imagine the rancid vibes
granite tangle
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https://x.com/kobayashicore/status/1942890076780061032?t=WGcPqOTFgNKm5YvzRU37qg&...
Its incredible how it took 2 years for them to fall this hard from glory
severe spindle
https://x.com/NorthPoleF1/status/1942769771931697533
Good lord Max is expensive
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https://x.com/brook_f1/status/1942901241299829091?t=A1TcDTB61NDRdv_ZLYCKHg&s=19
Aston will become Red bull 2.0
Someone suggested that Russel may go to Aston if Max goes to Mercedes
Honestly not terribly unlikely
I don't know if Stroll is planned for 2026 or not, but I think Russel would be a decent replacement for Fernando as well
I don't know if the man even wants to race anymore
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https://x.com/BenHockingF1/status/1942915765927108722?t=NnlLd3dVl85oLpaIqc5ong&s...
Pfft
severe spindle
https://x.com/formuLau16/status/1942900486899736957?t=ma5wF0wL3yYgtPjc95wZhQ&s=1...
Just saying, it's not impossible
pale tinsel
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severe spindle
Pffft
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its gonna be so weird to not see horner on the red bull pit wall
Absolutely. I don't know if we'll even continue to see him
pale tinsel
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Pierre Wache sacked and you can get a proper aero guy in?
https://x.com/f1trollofficial/status/1942927911046267065?t=htASnG0NBzy_ugGxzaVEng&s=19
should have had this
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Next season of DtS better be spicy
granite tangle
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glacial pine
https://x.com/Max33Verstappen/status/804720896367849476
Omg he deleted the tweet
granite tangle
Omg he deleted the tweet
i can still see it are you sure lol
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the scenes if he lands in germany 🤣
glacial pine
It isn't showing it to me on his account and if I click the link it loads then disappears
granite tangle
It isn't showing it to me on his account and if I click the link it loads then d...
i just loaded it on another browser as well, i dont know
glacial pine
Then it must just be x dot com falling apart at the seams.
Once the F1 teams leave for bluesky I can delete my account and stop giving Elon ad revenue
lofty mirage
https://x.com/autosport/status/1942949126435475682?t=bouH2WY8h0Sc3_phsimY_g&s=19
fucking dumbass lmao
severe spindle
Next season of DtS better be spicy
And we're not even anywhere near the end yet
severe spindle
https://fxtwitter.com/ferra_ria/status/1942930753597423709?t=CayDsA7FAHg26Hym3wy...
Would be interesting
Not let me be for real
Right now, with all that's happening
THere is no "correct" move to make
Whether Max joins Mercedes, Aston Martin or whoever, it's not a wrong choice
Nor is Chrisitian joining Ferrari or whoever
So whatever happens, happens
Bottas is said to be considered for both Alpine and also Cadillac
And alot of other news surrounding nearly everyone else on the grid
Right now, every team is racing purely for 2nd place with mclaren so far ahead and so much faster than everyone else
So there's no point in even trying to contend for a title anymore
So may as well make all the moves possible right now, because the balanace is gonna heavily alter in 2026
You know what pisses me off? It's genuinely getting on my nerves seeing folks defend and anatognize various drivers when others do the same shit
Let me be for real, all the respect for Nico for what he accomplished, but he isn't suddenly some hidden talent and exempt of any flaw because he managed a P3
and even worse is how people tell off Lance Stroll for saying the car this season is crap, when Fernando says the same and people glaze him
The team at AM needs to hear this, they need to be doing way better than they are with the budget they're working with
I swear to god, I sometimes can't tell if F1 fans are children or grown ups
THis is what happens when you broadcast a sport to people who don't understand it
Everyone needs to be viewed from a much more balanced point of view
And the overall picture needs to be taken into consideration
It pisses me off that pre-British GP 2025, people would have easily gone on to crap on Nico and Sauber with mean and ill-spirited jokes, and suddenly everyone pretends to be a Sauber and Nico fan
This isn't directed at you guys, but the youtube comments and general social media
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pfffffft
pale tinsel
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I don't know how much of a role Horner played in many of those drivers getting sacked
But holy shit does this feel satisfying
severe spindle
https://fxtwitter.com/virivrse/status/1942941961301950898?t=0PO95PCA6_5l4a3hVUyi...
Mad max afteall xd
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I mean let's be real
How could it possibly get worse
They already have banger drivers and all the budget in the world and still cannot give them WDC worthy cars
So I don't see how Horner being team Principle could fix or ruin anything
the only place from here is up really
granite tangle
@pale tinsel max verstappen
https://x.com/MVP1RACING/status/1942943077850636460
pale tinsel
@granite tangle
he got sacked and had to announce it himself I'm dead 😂
Ferrari is safe though, he's still employed by red bull
🙏
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What
pale tinsel
He's still employed by Red Bull, just not as CEO or TP
basically got demoted like a tonne of bricks
severe spindle
I see, so he's still an employee there
Guess that's that then
No more speculation
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Given his hot headedness, probably not xd
lofty mirage
https://fxtwitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1943021782769823835?t=sS2mhkWwxwAiEpwZu...
UMMMMM
granite tangle
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Hahaha
strong kite
"I'm in lesbians with you"
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What the hell..
granite tangle
i joined goodwood stream to see some cool cars go around
and all the stream comments are talking about is max and horner 🤣
granite tangle
Gabi had a blast it seems
https://vxtwitter.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1852004261934063924
oh id forgot about this
granite tangle
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and all the stream comments are talking about is max and horner 🤣
Worthless
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https://vxtwitter.com/fosgoodwood/status/1943324341053116830
what.. why is it painted in Stake colors..
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https://vxtwitter.com/giannawrght/status/1942883129535942782
pfft
granite tangle
what.. why is it painted in Stake colors..
because if its going out in public it has to have the team's current sponsors
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But.. the team doens't own that car
granite tangle
yes they do
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Like hakkinen drove the 1999 Mclaren a while ago
That one wasn't repainted in papaya colors
granite tangle
That one wasn't repainted in papaya colors
if its privately owned its a different story
but that car probably came out of sauber
same reason why the RB8 Lawson drove
was painted in Visa RB colors
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I see..
Guess if nothing else
it gives a neat little "what-if" of these older cars in these modern schemes then
Assetto Corsa modders will go crazy
granite tangle
then the redbull Coulthard drove is painted with the sponsors the redbull showrunners have
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And I assume every other game too
granite tangle
so yeah
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I jst never thought it'd happen honestly
It's the dumbest thing ever to repaint a car that doesn't represent them anymore
granite tangle
it happens more than you think
granite tangle
well after the events they are reverted to their original form
those are wraps
the paint underneath the wrap is the original livery
so dont worry
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That's good to hear then..
The original look isn't lost
I am so mentally shot right now, everything pisses me off, so i am not talking with sense
i don't even dislike these older cars supporting new liveries..
if anything I like the Stake look
granite tangle
<@883063680302985236>
delusional people
pale tinsel
would be mental if he did tho
glacial pine
Imagine...
strong kite
pierre gasly:
glacial pine
Nah they have laws in France they'll just fire him again
Since RBR posted all the nice"he's been great and amazing" fluff about him, without telling us WHY they fired him viciously like he tried to murder a colleague or poison a driver, he'd be sensible to just retire. Because if anyone at RBR hates him enough (and they did just brutally fire him) that person could just call Alpine and tell them
severe spindle
Nah they have laws in France they'll just fire him again
Alpine ain't french based however
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Since RBR posted all the nice"he's been great and amazing" fluff about him, with...
Honestly your guess is as good as mine
Nobody has any real answer as to why he was demoted so suddenly
Might have something to do with the recent Red Bull fumbles
Might have something to do with the horrendous state of Red Bull hierarchy
granite tangle
Since RBR posted all the nice"he's been great and amazing" fluff about him, with...
simple reason, he didnt murder someone, but hes the casualty of a small change that happened in RB during the course of the past week. The shareholders of the company were 49-49-2. But the side backing Horner sold 2% of their shares, giving back the majority 49-47-2-2 to the Austrian side of RB
so they instantly sacked him with majority stake
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So that's why
Jesus, no trust at all in that organisation
pale tinsel
@granite tangle christian horner sabotage has started
glacial pine
so they instantly sacked him with majority stake
That still seems CRAZY sudden and unwise mid season, especially given everyone else that's left the team.
granite tangle
That still seems CRAZY sudden and unwise mid season, especially given everyone e...
Well if they’ve lost max to Mercedes might as well just blow it all up
glacial pine
Maybe just as well the car formula is starting from scratch next year lol
pale tinsel
Maybe just as well the car formula is starting from scratch next year lol
yeah but do you trust pierre washed to make a good car?
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Like.theyre gods
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yeah but do you trust pierre washed to make a good car?
Well I don't have to, I'm not an F1 team principal
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would've been easier to say no lmao
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Goes to show how useless red bull was
That if you remove one piece, the whole thing falls through
glacial pine
would've been easier to say no lmao
Yeah but I literally don't know who you're talking about.
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Newey was in charge? He wasnt even full time?!? I always thought he was some wacky advisor with a sprinkling aof magic dust 3 days a week
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Pierre Wache was in charge but it was all neweys designs
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Gotcha
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Pierre Waches first design was this years car i think
yeah this years car is all Pierre Wache
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Interesting
Should have probably reused the 2024 car
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I still think maybe Toto was right all along. They went down a development direction chasing performance for Max, not accepting how these concepts made things so hard to drive
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well, pierre Wache and the design team
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I still think maybe Toto was right all along. They went down a development direc...
They've gone so far down chasing performance gains in theory that they've forgotten how to make a car driveable
to the point even Verstappen can't get the best out of it
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It's crazy
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They've gone so far down chasing performance gains in theory that they've forgot...
And forgotten that they have more than 1 driver
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That too
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They think Max js some god who can drive anything
He only wins because of the car
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Clean slate next year for everyone though. Literally anything might happen in 2026
Maybe a fresh start will be good for RBR... Maybe they'll flop hard and it'll become pepsi max f1
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and if Verstappen can't get the best out of your car, then the 2nd driver no matter who it is has no chance
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If the car is bad, he's never coming close
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Clean slate next year for everyone though. Literally anything might happen in 20...
I think some wil still have some advantages over others
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Clean slate next year for everyone though. Literally anything might happen in 20...
yeah but I don't have faith in Pierre or red bulls engine division to produce the goods
Mercedes on the other hand
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They've gone so far down chasing performance gains in theory that they've forgot...
It being so bad that they have to run a low downforce setup to get the car to turn In Silverstone
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seems like they're looking good for upcoming regs
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Which screewed them over in the rain
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seems like they're looking good for upcoming regs
And so do their engine supplied teams
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It being so bad that they have to run a low downforce setup to get the car to tu...
they ran low downforce cause they were banking on a dry race, then it was basically monza spec car on a wet silverstone. surprised they didn't fall out the points completely
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they ran low downforce cause they were banking on a dry race, then it was basica...
It was quite lucky, but they really were idiots to not expect rain
Espiecally when it was literally pouring down
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Oh max is an exceptional talent.
But nobody can win a championship in the 5th or 6th fastest car, because even if you're extracting 100% out the car, the mid tier talents are getting 95% out of theirs.
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They're just capitalising too much on little things
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Oh max is an exceptional talent.
But nobody can win a championship in the 5th o...
Exactly
And once you overdrive a 5th place car
You spin out and crash
Which max has done alot this season
It's sad honestly
But really, I can only hope it means red bull starts to relearn how to manage
Because the truth is, the current situation was a long time coming
Only now it reached its boiling point
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Which max has done alot this season
i mean in fairness the only other time i can think of off the top of my head was austria fp3 where max spun
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He's still clearly under struggle to keep the car under control
In every instance of his racing
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oh yeah he's definitely struggling with the car
he's talented enough that he can hide it well
but when its out of his control that red bull is horrible to drive
look at yuki, amazingly talented driver in the junior team
having a horrible time rn in the main team
sometimes i do hope red bull get another humbling like in 2008 where the junior team finishes ahead of the main team
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but when its out of his control that red bull is horrible to drive
Mentally drains him too
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look at yuki, amazingly talented driver in the junior team
Indeed
Hell, the junior team car seems faster right now
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probably not faster, but definitely a lot more driveable
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Kind of like the original days of Red Bull and Toro Ross9
Where the latter won first
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put max in that VCARB and I'm sure he'd be a lot happier
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they should totally do it for the final race of the season, just to see how good that car is
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look at yuki, amazingly talented driver in the junior team
He's probably very happy that he's old team principles is back too
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*they should totally do it for the final race of the season, just to see how goo...
It'd be a good experiment, not like a red bull is gonna manage anything anyway at this point
They're definitely 5th in constructors
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4th*
williams are a bit behind and they seem to be going through a little slump right now, even saubers catching them up
I'm gonna redo these constructors standing with some funny names
- McLaren
- Ferrstrategy
- Moancedes
- Mid Bull
- Williams
- S-Audi
- Visa Cash App Paypal eBay Klarna Temu F1 Team
- Astroll Martin
- Haas to Spin
- Slowpine
looks about right
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1. McLaren
2. Ferrstrategy
3. Moancedes
4. Mid Bull
5. Williams
6. S-Audi
7. Vis...
Im amazed ferrari is still 2nd
It's probably delusional to expect them to close the gap
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1. McLaren
2. Ferrstrategy
3. Moancedes
4. Mid Bull
5. Williams
6. S-Audi
7. Vis...
Hahaha that's incredible
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Ferrari will be a solid 3rd, Red Bull 4th with Verstappen scoring like 90% of their points
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That seems likey given how things have gone so far
Still
I wanna see both sauber and Williams to finish top 5
They're trying so hard bless them
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the Mercedes question mark is really Antonelli. No doubt he's quick but he's been really unlucky at times, and made some rookie mistakes like crashing into verstappen at austria
But he will come good
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the Mercedes question mark is really Antonelli. No doubt he's quick but he's bee...
He's had the worst rookie season
So many DNFs
Not even his fault allt of the time
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I'd argue Jack Doohan had a little bit worse one
or Colapinto if you want to argue that he's a rookie too
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Yeah they've had worse
But take into consideration
They're both in a bad team and a bad car
The 2025 Mercedes is a real disappointment
Ruining Antonelli's season
But hey
Not all gloom and doom
He's got a podium in his first season
Probably the quickest rookie podium ever
Or at least up there
Many drivers wish they had even 1 podium
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I'm just waiting for my boy Ollie to get a fast car
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1. McLaren
2. Ferrstrategy
3. Moancedes
4. Mid Bull
5. Williams
6. S-Audi
7. Vis...
Can I put that list on klarna
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Because I feel like chances of him succeeding with Ferrari are low
Unless of course 2026 Ferrari somehow change things around
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Can I put that list on klarna
I was gonna put Klarna on there but it was getting quite long
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Maybe it'll be their year
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cause ClearPay was gonna go on there too
Ollies gonna have to wait till 2027 at the earliest
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Yeah I meant Ferrari and then him
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unless Ferrari wanna pay off hamiltons really expensive contract after 1 year, or Leclerc finally gives up on them
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I feel like they may let Leclerc go
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Nah, he's literally their poster boy
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Nah, he's literally their poster boy
Alonso was their poster boy too, he was let go of
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If Leclerc leaves it'll be because Leclerc finally gives up on the team. Trust me, it'll be Leclerc telling Ferrari to piss off rather than Ferrari cutting him loose
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Alonso was their poster boy too, he was let go of
Nah, Alonso was/is Briatore's poster boy. And Renault's
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I don't see neither scenario as impossible
Ferrari is changing
And they're done with their drivers
They're both washed
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Leclerc grew up a ferrari fan, went all the way through their academy winning all the junior championships
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his godfather was the original Ferrari posterboy too, Jules Bianchi
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Yeah but he's not winning now
and thats more down to Ferrari and the car than Leclerc
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I actually see Lelcer going to Mclaren eventually and getting a wdc that way
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and thats more down to Ferrari and the car than Leclerc
Ferrari doenst see it that way
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Not McLaren.
Mercedes maybe, or AMR if they become good
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Ferrari doenst see it that way
I know what you're saying, but Ferrari is not the Ferrari of Enzo's day where its never the cars fault. It probably still is a bit, but they take a little more accountability these days
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If Leclerc wins, which he won't
He'll be happy
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Look who is at FOS
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oh the 2008 world champion if it wasn't for singapore felipe massa (lets just forget about britain 2008 where he spun more than a ballerina)
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I know what you're saying, but Ferrari is not the Ferrari of Enzo's day where it...
Oh I'm sure, I'm.sure they don't try to put all blame on the drivers
But the.italian media loves to put all the blame.on someone and.leclerc has been having a rough time
He's probably mentally done with Ferrari
And doenst even care what happens anymore
He gets shit and can't win and he gets anatgonizrd
An eventually Ferrari.will let him go because of this
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https://vxtwitter.com/fosgoodwood/status/1943633874111615042?s=46
So many f1 cafrs in this year's goodwood
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He's probably mentally done with Ferrari
His post race interviews are akin to Stroll now
Literally just done and not happy with anything
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Look who is at FOS
I can't believe actual Massa drove that there
Amazing
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have fun mini
Take.care of yourself
I'll be napping for now
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Ermm
Guys
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https://vxtwitter.com/fosgoodwood/status/1943618774630040039?s=46 @severe spindle you’ll like this
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X
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oh the 2008 world champion if it wasn't for singapore felipe massa (lets just fo...
And spinning on his own on the first lap and then taking out Coulthard and then himself in Melbourne and spinning Lewis and colliding with Bourdais in Fuji, he was not and never will be worthy of that championship
Also braking too deep into Sainte Devote and losing 2nd to Kubica in Monaco
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https://x.com/verstappenews/status/1943647799876190222?s=46
Jesus christ, its for real
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https://vxtwitter.com/fosgoodwood/status/1943618774630040039?s=46 <@383153734873...
Man that's so cool. Look at it go, like it isn't even as old as it is. Going like a champ. A shame mcrea isn't alive anymlre
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https://x.com/williamsracing/status/1943626910321262901?s=46
She's pretty
I.think that's mansell's car
Surprised they didn't do a livery change
Probably too iconic
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Oh Lia Blocks driving goodwood?
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Oh Lia Blocks driving goodwood?
she drove Mansell's williams
i just cant find footage of it other than the onboard
guess the FOS socials are a bit behind
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https://x.com/msportquotes/status/1943698609792274903?s=46 <@293122066805293057>
this is Grade a shithousery
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https://fxtwitter.com/TopGearFormula1/status/1943553371064918030?t=5n1aBzoUp_RVF...
pffft, yeah that's basically what happens in the movie
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@granite tangle I've seen 2 tweets now saying verstappen to mercedes is done
to be announced next week
and this one kills it lmao
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<@883063680302985236> I've seen 2 tweets now saying verstappen to mercedes is do...
some max fan account made a troll post about max signing and the mercedes fanpages jumped to post the news LMAOOOO
its some retard going by mikMV33
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I do wish mansell would be the one to drive it
But I am glad she got this opporunity
Driving a F1 car unlike any
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mansell has driven it a lot of times though, in my opinion its nice to see fresh faces being given opportunities
and its especially important because the whole gimmick people use saying women arent strong enough for F1 cars makes me sad
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and its especially important because the whole gimmick people use saying women a...
Well, it is usually true
It is physically demanding for most men in the sport, let alone most women
Not saying it is impossible however
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i think its a joke
they give the girls F4 cars and act like they are progressive
i think the real talented women in F1 Academy can minimum hold up in F2 chassis
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Well there are women drivers in F3 and F2, so it's not like there aren't women in the Formula sport
Just none, as of right now, in F1
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Of course, they need to give them the chance
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https://fxtwitter.com/F1GuyDan/status/1943697117874213037?t=UMGPAeuRaZGCKdBveIf0...
Utterly wild that they got Yuki Tsunoda the Red Bull seat just in time for his home race
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https://fxtwitter.com/HTTPSMV1/status/1943754105266077826?t=LANQf0Atlhy017inGmeE...
the fuck lol
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so its destined to flop
I agree
Do put the suited women in higher grade Formula cars
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mansell has driven it a lot of times though, in my opinion its nice to see fresh...
I mean I suppose so.
Who knows, maybe this woman will end up in F1 one day
You know what would be cool instead?
Putting Mansell in a modern Williams
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I mean I suppose so.
Who knows, maybe this woman will end up in F1 one day
Idk many of the team principals cough cough Briatore cough would rather have the worst male driver in the world than take a chance on a somewhat accomplished woman
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Idk many of the team principals *cough cough Briatore cough* would rather have t...
Admittedly, it is a risky venture
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i think the real talented women in F1 Academy can minimum hold up in F2 chassis
Well, the current F2 car has made to accommodate both male and female drivers, I mean the first person to drive it was Tatiana Calderon
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There's reason why women aren't more common in Motorsports, let alone F1
it's not that it is impossible
But F1 is just so amazingly demanding that even F2 champions struggle in it
And of course, prejudice plays a part in any team wanting to get a female driver in as their main driver
Of course, if they do, they'll get a ton of PR and positive reception initially
But if they fail to back it up the promises, they'll become a laughing stock
There have been a couple of female drivers in F1's history, but only one of them actually showed any semblance of promise
Regardless, we'll see what happens
I have nothing agasint it, but I also understand why it may not happen
Like Sugar suggested, they are already in F2, and that's already a decent accomplishment
Not to mention other fields of Motorsports, like Le Mans, Indycars, CART, etc
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I want Doriane Pin
She was so fast at Jeddah that she completed an additional lap before the race was over, incurring a penalty that placed her behind Abbi Pulling
I want her to replace George Russell at Mercedes
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Might be a big ask right now, but hey, other teams probably have positions for her
Like Alpine, Haas, Sauber and etc
Hell, Aston Martin maybe
AM is the team which has been the most vocally "progressive"
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I want Doriane Pin
I feel like a GB3 campaign may end happening next year and maybe alongside another FRECA (or whatever they'll be next year given ACI and Alpine are splitting after this year meaning FRECA will be no more) season may the answer
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Bro no fucking way
glacial pine
I want Doriane Pin
She was the only driver bringing the challenge to Abbi.
pale tinsel
https://x.com/F1BigData/status/1943672918850040245?t=OTLU7j4F2XbGag-52_iYXg&s=19
old hamilton twitter was unhinged
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Alternate universe type shit
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Bro no fucking way
PFFFFT
I never knew that
Instead of Enzo Ferrari and John Peugeot
We have Enzo Peugeot and John Ferrari
These 2 brands are more related than one would imagine initially
Because Enzo Ferrari drove Peugeots for his daily
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Yeah I remembered that
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Bro no fucking way
He doesn't drive for RPM anymore, also when are KIC going enter 2 drivers!
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Like Sugar suggested, they are already in F2, and that's already a decent accomp...
Only 1, Calderon, and over 1 and a half seasons, 2019 and the latter half of 2022 after leaving IndyCar
And only 1 has done modern F3, Floersch
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Only 1, Calderon, and over 1 and a half seasons, 2019 and the latter half of 202...
Really? I thought there would be more honestly
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Nah, the jump from F3 to F2 is probably as tough as any other
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Wait @glacial pine you didn't hear George Russell was leaving Mercedes?
glacial pine
Official?
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Wait I just checked
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Also I don't know about a female driver whose closest to getting a Super Licence yet
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Speculation as always
glacial pine
Probably Jamie Chadwick or Calderon right?
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Either way when George Russell leaves I'd want Pin to replace him
As long as she gets her Super License by then
glacial pine
Jeez doesn't Merc have an F2 driver lined up?
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At the moment, things are all kind of up for speculations
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Probably Jamie Chadwick or Calderon right?
I think Jamie is eligible because she won W Series 3 times and was 7th in Indy NXT last year, the W Series expire after this year because the series folded in 2022
Edit, I don't think she got 15 points each for winning W Series 3 times
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Last I checked Mercedes had Frederik Vesti lined up
But last I checked was a good long time ago
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Last I checked Mercedes had Frederik Vesti lined up
But last I checked was a goo...
He's still reserve, he's at Goodwood alongside Bottas
glacial pine
How many points is it for a super?
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How many points is it for a super?
40
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Either way when George Russell leaves I'd want Pin to replace him
no shot
im all for the girls but when its time to see them in f1 itll be first in a bottom team that will give them the chance
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Yeah definitely not going to a top team instantly
Russel himself might leave however
It's kind of unfortunate
Russel is to Mercedes what Lecler and Norris are to Ferrari and Mclaren
Funded careers, guided their careers
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This was a fun watch
And I must say
I never knew F1 cars only had clutch for first gear
I wonder how that works
How they engage clutch for first gear but no other gear
pale tinsel
did anyone ever watch that tv show horrible histories?
dunno if it was just a UK childhood thing
granite tangle
https://vxtwitter.com/HondaRacingGLB/status/1944001416906842221 this'll make @severe spindle happy
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<@293122066805293057> https://x.com/realmjthompson/status/1941069199448924394?s=...
Did Kath tweet this?
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Formula E time.
Will be interesting to see what stand in Felipe Drugovich can manage
And then Rowland could win the whole championship with three races left to go!? That's crazy
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I'm tripping
I only saw "Will be interesting to see what stand in Felipe" in the notifications and I thought Felipe Massa was competing in Formula E
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He did once upon a time
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That was when he left Williams right
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Speaking of Williams
One of the last cars to wear the Martini colors in any official capacity
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That livery was so good!
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Not as garish as the Lancia Martini liveries but still really cool to see
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https://vxtwitter.com/sangsterpromise/status/1943966831611433257
That's impressive to keep under control
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https://vxtwitter.com/HondaRacingGLB/status/1944001416906842221 this'll make <@3...
Eyyy, I know he wouldn't be kept away
I bet he knows this car like the back of his hand
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Speaking of Williams
It is interesting how martini didn't have as big of a presence with F1 as it did with other race cars
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I mean you go from sponsoring the legend Mcrae to some backmarkers
I wouldn’t stay long either
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No I mean like in general
Like Martini never had such a big F1 presence as far as I can tell
And this Williams period seems to be the last and only one to have ever been sponsored by them
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Formula e CHAOS
Late safety car in a pretty dull race, then everyone came back together.
And Felipe Drugovich may have just KO'd the championship leader
The maseratis have spun each other out
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Why is Wehrlein so lucky? Porsche are always unfairly advantaged
Also when will Massa ever accept that he's a salty twat who needs to let go of losing 2008, especially when Bernie retracted what he originally said, given how his career went after 2008, he would've been a flopjob of a world champion, even more than Villeneuve
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Also when will Massa ever accept that he's a salty twat who needs to let go of l...
Bruh don't disrespect Villeneuve
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https://x.com/verstarzen/status/1943820480278147327?s=46 <@293122066805293057>
"Upgrade"
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Bruh don't disrespect Villeneuve
JV doesn’t have an English passport so he’s someone to be disrespected
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JV doesn’t have an English passport so he’s someone to be disrespected
Hahaha, god damn, that's absolutely perfect
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Bruh don't disrespect Villeneuve
How many races did he win after being world champion, none!
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How many races did he win after being world champion, none!
That has literally nothing to do with him
You only win races in top team cars
And villeneuve, like many great drivers, decided to help BAR develop
Hell, you'd say the same for Schumacher if his Ferrari campagin was unsuccessful
it has nothing to do with driver skill, if you win a WDC, you're a legend regardless
But we all know a WDC has little to do with the driver, and everything to do with the car
Hell, Villeneuve was so good, Schumacher tried to steal his 1997 title by taking him out
Similar to how he did to Hill in 1994
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One thing which doesn't make much sense to me in F1
The Hybrid era came at the cost of.. well, much costlier enterance into F1
As the new power units and chassis demands were far more specialized and expensive now
I understand FIA at the end of the day needs to be making money for a sport under them to keep going
But like... why would they make the sport so much more expensive to the point where no new team would ever want to join
It's less about the sport, and more about monopoly
Everything in F1 feels like a disservice to the fact of the sport
Discouraging new entries, constant meaningless name changes
And it'll go to the point where there'll remain less than 5 teams in F1
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Hell, you'd say the same for Schumacher if his Ferrari campagin was unsuccessful
people do NOT discount Schumacher's efforts for Mercedes and helping them develop. You could have used that bit XD
and i mean why would they
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https://x.com/SCUDERIAFEMBOY/status/1944071537138471383 <@293122066805293057>
Zuu will like this
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and i mean why would they
Cause people are cunts
Epsecially F1 fans
Whose sole job is to glaze senna and hate everyone who happens to lose 1 race
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people do NOT discount Schumacher's efforts for Mercedes and helping them develo...
Hence why it is unfair for people to discount Villeuneve's efforts
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Yeah so this is my first time actually watching an Indycar race
The one guy's name is Sting Ray Robb lmao
Talk about a perfect name for a race car driver
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I sometimes can't tell if these names are real
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Talk about a perfect name for a race car driver
Yeah but he's crap, he's a pay driver
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Pato wins! First win of the season, first Chevrolet win of the season
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Formula E race day! And that means qualifying duels
Let's see who can crush Dan ticktums ego today
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Pascale Wehrlein pole position obliterating everyone else between
Drops his gap for the championship down to 47 points with 3 races to go...
If he can defend it he'll become a legend but it's not likely sadly
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https://youtube.com/shorts/gxGtOsMqXNQ?si=Gdas-LX38ryvYdyL
@severe spindle if you want my reasoning on why i hate Lance Stroll with a passion, here's one of them
In 2024 he did this iirc
glacial pine
Ooh those GR badges on the wings are worth something for those two at keast
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Oh Esteban and Ollie drove the “new LFA”
Interesting. The HAAS GR connections are helpful
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<@383153734873645056> if you want my reasoning on why i hate Lance Stroll with a...
I am sorry on his behalf. Your anger is justified
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Ooh those GR badges on the wings are worth something for those two at keast
Even more reason for Esteban seems like XD
Mad Mike in a NASCAR put on a better drift show than the actual drift cars they brought around this year
lofty mirage
https://youtube.com/shorts/5A2jgjNjiO8?si=qcCfs1Ftjv63A-vq
they do have great tastes
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https://x.com/SCUDERIAFEMBOY/status/1944071537138471383 <@293122066805293057>
she does sponsor a porsche race team iirc
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https://vxtwitter.com/fosgoodwood/status/1944411495455977939?s=46
So what's who drove it
Incredible to see
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https://vxtwitter.com/tgr_wrc/status/1944396711180280251?s=46
I swear to god, if Ocon won more, he'd be seen as on par with the likes of Max Verstappen and such
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Mad Mike in a NASCAR put on a better drift show than the actual drift cars they ...
That's insane
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she does sponsor a porsche race team iirc
Wait, she sponsors them? Like.. how, is her name on the cars?
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she does sponsor a porsche race team iirc
yeah sorry for not mentioning it i was uhh distracted
lofty mirage
https://vxtwitter.com/tgr_wrc/status/1944396711180280251?s=46
dang I was about to post that
goatcon
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granite tangle
seen lol
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Palou doesn't need anymore wins, and they claim the racing is "more exciting" than F1
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X
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Nigel has gotten better looking with age
I think it's probably because he doesn't just have a mustache anuympre lol
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Also Porsche have been a such flopjob in FE recently, especially now that they fell off at home and Rowland took the title
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Apparently Porsche iisn't gonna own the thing for a very long time anyway
But who knows
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The Caddys have won in Interlagos, 1-2 as well!
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Very nice
glacial pine
Where was Porsche strategy today?!?!? That overconsumption cost them So fucking MUCH???
And... Jaguar being... Fast at a formula e track. Consistently? I can barely even believe it
I mean not consistently they need to fucking qualify.
Gawd id LOVE to see a good race for Jaguar when I'm in London
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Where was Porsche strategy today?!?!? That overconsumption cost them So fucking ...
Non-existent, their weekend was over from the beginning when Wehrlein put Da Costa in the wall in practice, apparently they've not been on talking terms that much in Season 11 since some incident in Sao Paulo according to The Race article on them crashing in practice
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Duels both days, pole today, a podium and double points on Saturday. They were pretty strong on Saturday. They started the dry race strong and just... Fumbled the numbers and had to giga lift at the 4/5ths
pale bridge
I will never understand the Duels, it sucked when it was introduced and it sucks now, bring back group qualifying and super pole
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I think it's great
I really enjoy when they delay one feed to give you live side by side laps
And this year giving them four wheel drive for the duel is a fun gimmick to make the cars look different on track
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I somehow didn't realize until now
The current Sauber car is indeed Team Sauber
Stake Kick is just their title sponsor
Audi already chose to take full ownership, so the Sauber name will disappear for good
While the name Sauber was nowhere to be seen with Alfa Romeo either, that was just a contract deal
In essence, the team was still Sauber, with some Alfa Romeo and Fiat SpA funding and connection
And the money and contract was for the name of the entire team and operation to be Alfa Romeo, when they actually had no real connection
BMW kept the name BMW Sauber because the facilities weren't changed and BMW weren't confident in staying in thr sport
Audi on the other hand, is here to either stay
Or delete the sauber name from F1 for good
Facilities changed, far bigger plans and future
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https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1944734818312266035?s=46
It's a sensible move! Unlike coming to F1 to showcase your engine manufacturing prowess and starting with a customer engine
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I know the hulk context for compairson, but not the other 2
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https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1944734818312266035?s=46
Honestly, makes alot of sense
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So basically, George has truly been fucked in his relatively long career of F1
- Got stuck with a horrible Williams car
- Got stuck with the non-dominant Mercedes car
- First year as number 1 driver may be his last at Mercedes and to be replaced by the one driver he doesn't particularly like
He'll probably go down in history as someone like Montoya or Riccirado
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How is he doing that
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I do wanna ask something regarding Ferrari's F1 car
were cars like the SF-24, SF-25 and even SF-23 bad?
Like is that what holds back Ferrari's performance
Cause I doubt it's the drivers holding the team back
And I can't imagine bad strategies being that determinantal
I mean in 2023, Ferrari was the only other car besides Red Bull to win anything
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Last year Ferrari had a good car was 2022
For the first half of the year
Then redbull became significantly faster than them (mostly on redbull being insanely quick tho)
I don’t know what went so wrong for them after
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it's quite odd frankly
Cause their PU isn't too bad
Alfa Romeo did decently prior to 2023
and the Ground effect was already in play since 2022
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Jack of all trades master of none
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So I don't know why Ferrari can't adapt
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That’s how Ferrari feels in the ground effect era
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I suppose you're right
And maybe it's the driver's fault too
Given none of them can maximize as hard as say Max could
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If it wasn’t so overused the term “mid” would be perfect to describe their performance
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Pair that with bad strategies, and wins are scarce
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Given none of them can maximize as hard as say Max could
Nah I don’t think that’s true
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If it wasn’t so overused the term “mid” would be perfect to describe their perfo...
It's a shame I suppose
They're not a BAD team, but they're medicore in a state where all of their fellow top teams are above average
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It’s not like the car has an untapped potential
Like the second redbull
Which everyone knows it can be fast
The Ferrari has shown its ceiling and it isn’t that high
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I mean fair, but what Ferrari loses in that slight edge, it gains in overall perfromance
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Maybe a podium car but not a consistent race winning car
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I mean fair, but what Ferrari loses in that slight edge, it gains in overall per...
Yeah but would you rather a car that can finish every race 5th incredibly consistently or would you rather a car that can either win the race or shit the bed
That’s the difference between Ferrari and redbull
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Yeah but the thing is, Red Bull's advantage can only be expoloied by drivers like Max
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Ferrari does everything decently but it will always be outpaced by a car that specializes in that circuit
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If they don't have Max, which they won't after 2025, they'll just become a mid-field team to a backmarker
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The redbull has very clear advantages and weaknesses but it can still fight for a win half the time
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True
I suppose the edge that Adrian Newey provides cannot be underestimated
Take him and drivers like Max away, and the team will go back to 2005 status
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Not even the team can understand what he left them with
They are lost
So I’d say he’s pretty important yeah
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That is a really big issue to be honest
When your victory is so dependant on very specific factors
They become very hollow
And when those factors inevitably change and you haven't adapted propelry, you'll suffer because of it
Such is the way of F1 I suppose
The Teams all make decent cars, but that slight edge is what determines who wins
Next year when everyone copies Mclaren, they'll stop being as big of a factor as well
Just how the sport is I suppose
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They are lost
I can only imagine how much they'll suffer from 2026 onwards
Making their own engine, no Adrian Newey, no Christian Horner, and probably no Max, Yuki or Lawson either
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Yuki Liam Isack and probably even Lindblad are at the mercy of Helmut right now, if he doesn’t also choose to retire alongside the glory days of redbull
They have contracts that allow promotion and demotions in a phone call manner
So until they are up they’ll have to manage
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It's a properly bad system ngl
It's quite similar to the old period of Ferrari
Where the team is so high up their ass, they think if a driver underpforms, they should be immiedtaely let go of
I feel like soon enough, Red Bull will take Alpine's place of the most barely functional enviromentally toxic team
Going back to their pre-Vettel era of being a backmarker to a mid-fielder
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So until they are up they’ll have to manage
What do you personally think the future holds?
Especially 2026
With the 11 teams we'll see, how do you expect the pace and ability of each team to be?
Rank them from 1st to 11th, with 1st being the one you deem mostly likely to do well, and 11th least likely to do well
Zuu, Tweetman, Furxy and others can give their ranking too
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Tough to say
It’s easy to imagine a top 5 let’s say but it gets harder ranking the midfield
I’ll give it a thought
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yeah take your time
and if nothing else, a top 5 would be good too
I'll give my personal ranking, though some of it is purely based on gut feeling
1: Mercedes-AMG
2: Ferrari
3: Mclaren
4: Williams
5: Audi
6: Aston Martin
7: Racing Bulls
8: Haas
9: Alpine
10: Red Bull
11: Cadillac
Some are interchangable, and this probably isnt how it's going to turn out
but it's just a guess
Aston probably should be higher given who they have on-board
But I don't know if they can captialize in one year
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Here's my ranking:
- Mercedes-AMG
- McLaren
- Ferrari
- Red Bull
- Williams
- Audi
- Aston Martin
- Cadillac
- Haas
- Racing Bulls
- Alpine
My best guess is that if Red Bull wants to be a top team again then they should drop Racing Bulls
Too much funding going to a second team that's always just gonna be a way for drivers to get into Red Bull
Or a depository for underperforming drivers more accurately
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Bring back Minardi
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Admittedly, the team only started being somewhat competitive after Red Bull acquired it from Minardi
Because as Minardi they were.. well.. less than steller
But I would also be in favor of minardi coming back
I mean really, the team still operates the same as how Minarid did
Still in Italy, still similar staff
Just more budget and structure
Or better yet, a new team taking the place of Racing bulls
Maybe BMW or Maserati
I feel like Maserati should happen
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McLaren
Ferrari
Williams
Racing Bulls
Mercedes
Aston
Alpine
Red Bull
Haas
Cadillac
If I had to guesss
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Come on, they're doing well in Formula E, they're a historic F1 team
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McLaren
Ferrari
Williams
Racing Bulls
Mercedes
Aston
Alpine
Red Bull
Haas
Cadill...
Hmm, to be honest between Ferrari, Mercedes and Mclaren, either seems like a good contender for the top spot
I went with mercedes given as they've usually been the most consistent
Not to mention their PU superiority
glacial pine
Come on, they're doing well in Formula E, they're a historic F1 team
Maserati are 8th
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Yours is similar to mine however, so it makes sense
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Maserati are 8th
Ah.. not as well as I had thought or hoped
glacial pine
I just think red bull is falling off, and might lose their star driver. That is NOT ideal going into such a big regs change
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They're making GT cars now so it makes sense to bring them back to F1
oooh, good call
but to be honest, them being small makes them less likely to be able to handle F1
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I just think red bull is falling off, and might lose their star driver. That is ...
Exactly, their PU is gonna be completely new and untested too