Motorsports

[glacial pine]

Max two places dropped in one corner yikes

Oh he doesn't give it back to George

[granite tangle]

no he took the runoff

and russel pushed him anyway

[glacial pine]

By the rules max enjoys, it was George's corner

[granite tangle]

and by the rules if max crashed into someone he wouldve gotten the 5 seconds

[glacial pine]

Hmmm maybe Nico Rosberg disagrees with me lol

[granite tangle]

and thats exactly what george did

so instead of dealing with that drama he keeps the position

[glacial pine]

The trademark max move is carrying untenable speed around the outside to be "ahead at the apex" and claim he was pushed off of a corner there was very very low chances of making.

Omg GP agrees with me?!

[granite tangle]

you think he wasnt making that really?

[glacial pine]

Poor tires, outside line, dirty air max was Gambling

Fucking hell max

Where is the black flag? It was as bad when he tried it in Mexico, and when Seb Vettel did it in Baku

[granite tangle]

black flag? how many years has it been for one

no way for that incident

youre out of your mind

[pale bridge]

Ew Gasly in the points

[pale bridge]

No we're in our minds, it was deliberate

[glacial pine]

Looking at them, the black flag hasn't been used for driving standards since 1981 and that was yellow flags.

They've been used to disqualify on technical things, like Hulkenberg getting outside assistance in Sao Paulo.

Only 10 seconds for deliberately ramming a car is insane.

There's even rules around giving places back, you have to stay behind for at least the next corner after giving the place.

[pale bridge]

They were being generous with him but they would've given him more

[pale tinsel]

LADS

ALONSO GOT POINTS

[glacial pine]

Fernandooooo

Finally freed from the pressure of his GOAT teammate

[strong kite]

In his home race no less

[severe spindle]

Well holy shit

This was really eventful

[pale tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-fernando-alonso-f1-formula-1-gif-15409674451501385698

[severe spindle]

Definitely the most F1 race I've watched yet

[glacial pine]

"I've done that before in mario kart"

[pale tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-alonso-fernando-alonso-fernando-f1-gif-27651407

[severe spindle]

For one: Good job mclaren boys
For two: Good work to leclcerc for the podium
For three: Holy crap Max was all over the shop
FOr four: That was some strong defense by Bearman, and decent racing from Hadjar

However, I think the real goat of this event was Nico Hulkinberg

Holy shit, a P6, ahead of Hamilton, in the Sauber

Even Bortoleto was doing quite well

[pale tinsel]

p5

Verstappen penalty

[severe spindle]

Wait, did Max get disqualified?

[pale tinsel]

nah, 10 seconds

[severe spindle]

He did have some shitty manners today

[pale tinsel]

dropped him to p10

[severe spindle]

Ooooh nooo, now that's bad as hell

Well done to Alonso as well, finally breaking the curse

[strong kite]

Hulk P5 now

[glacial pine]

Lance could have won that

[severe spindle]

You know who else is cursed now?

[pale bridge]

Verstappen somehow DOTD

[severe spindle]

Antonelli with 3 DNFs in the past 3 races

[strong kite]

if we're ranking by comedy

yes

[pale tinsel]

close championship

https://x.com/F1GuyDan/status/1929159661720055839?t=okHpL32dzlcICVxmrvYX6Q&s=19

Daniel Valente 🏎️ (@F1GuyDan)

Lance Stroll reportedly lost his temper after Q2 and broke things in the garage and swore at team members. Wow.

X · Jun 1, 2025, 12:54 PM

[pale bridge]

So who replaces Stroll for his homerace if he can't make it and Drugovich is committed to Le Mans with Cadillac... Crawford? Bottas? Anyone?

[granite tangle]

yes it was, and the 10 seconds and the penalty points are 100% deserved, now have you in your lifetime in F1 seen a black flag for causing a collision

the blag flag has not been used for that for 20 years now

[pale tinsel]

https://fxtwitter.com/F1/status/1929188410477920474?t=0Wz83h7ZPWkZ99-W5-sQWw&s=19

Formula 1 (@F1)

Drama in the closing stages of the race! 😱
︀︀
︀︀Max Verstappen drops to P10 following a 10-second penalty for causing a collision with George Russell
︀︀
︀︀#F1 #SpanishGP

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FxTwitter · Jun 1, 2025, 2:48 PM

[pale tinsel]

Crawford doesn't have the super license points

[granite tangle]

russel threw a fit in the pits

not russel

stroll

i mean

[pale tinsel]

Bottas and Perez are probably the best shouts

[granite tangle]

so do yall think the "injury" is even real?

i mean it could

[pale tinsel]

he probably injured himself throwing the fit

[granite tangle]

but it could also be taking a silent leave

[granite tangle]

they said it was unrelated

[pale tinsel]

and the long term injury is a cover story for his childish insolence

[pale tinsel]

yeah but they also said stroll was wdc material

[granite tangle]

im just speculating

could be covering up him stepping away

[severe spindle]

Would be an interesting approach

[granite tangle]

maybe he did something naughty they dont want the media catching, and all

or he didnt

i dont know

[pale tinsel]

apparently though, drugovich is considering dropping le mans for the F1 seat if he gets the chance
if he does he's the biggest idiot on earth

[granite tangle]

i agree with you

[pale bridge]

It was deliberate, Verstappen knew exactly what he was doing and completely caught George out

[granite tangle]

and i AGREE with you

the black flag in F1 though

is not for that !!!

not for 20 years now if not more

if it makes you feel better

make it 20 seconds

and 3 points

for all i care

not disqualification of the WDC though, that is absolutely idiotic what those people are shouting about

[pale tinsel]

the black flag is for the most serious of offenses. we're talking like, senna taking prost out t1 japan 1990

[glacial pine]

Most likely, lance knocked some water bottles or something over while being angry and slapping a table, and tabloid media is making it out to be something. He did have a bad cycling accident a few years back.

[granite tangle]

most likely

also yeah hes broken his hand before

we know that much

[glacial pine]

I do think full disqualification from an event should be used for a deliberate ram at any speed

[granite tangle]

but its quite easy to make enemies if youre stroll

[granite tangle]

we would have multiple a year then, yet we dont get any

10 seconds under safety car restart isnt much different anyway

if there wasnt a safety car they would have given him 20

[glacial pine]

I haven't seen a deliberate ram like that since 2017. And seb should have been removed from that event for it too

[severe spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376604162204106853/1378752551305871442/georgeborderlineviolence.mp4?ex=683dbee0&is=683c6d60&hm=c0bb50de7600838e6de6def9ab7cc55125ad0194ce943c65d8ef16568703263d&

Max really is like the modern day Michael Schumacher

[granite tangle]

i disagree with you completely, loads of deliberate rams every year

[glacial pine]

Feel free to link me to any

[severe spindle]

Happy chappy when nothing happens or it's going in his favor
But lashes out when something goes wrong

[granite tangle]

also this one is 100% max refusing to give the position and sliding around while shouting at his engineer, russel thinking he's letting him through and max understeering right into him

what other benefit max has of ramming someone not even in wdc contention

[glacial pine]

I think max ler his anger get the better of him and just threw the car at a driver again. Like Mexico last year

[granite tangle]

if he so wanted to kill someone wouldnt he just ram into norris then

[glacial pine]

He wasn't angry at Norris today

[granite tangle]

not angry at russel either

he was shouting about leclerc

[severe spindle]

He was seemingly angier for his own lack of tire management

having to do the last stint on hards while others were on mediums and softs

[granite tangle]

the tires were new mini

[glacial pine]

He was angry that George bumped into him.

[severe spindle]

I mean he had nothing else left

Had to use hards

when everyone else was on softs

[granite tangle]

a couple seconds before the crash: "he needs to give that position back (leclerc)" "give the position to russel" "for what blah blah" and then they crash

he refused to give the position, slid on the straight

over to inside and russel though he was letting him through

he had 0 intention of letting russel

[glacial pine]

Max will have remembered George bumping into him, he was there

[granite tangle]

ill go watch the onboard but i assure you he never saw russel coming and russel genuinely thought he was getting the position

deliberate crash but not looking to kill someone crash no

[glacial pine]

On the safety car restart? Yeah just racing. Max then rammed George later

[granite tangle]

absolutely no different than any other crash where the driver on the inside understeers right into the outside driver

[pale tinsel]

https://youtu.be/ANK91305IVg?si=OXsAuANQ-aYWbL-5&utm_source=MTQxZ

intentional

didn't get dq'd

[glacial pine]

He was supposed to be letting him by, not trying to overtake and understeer g

[granite tangle]

you are not oblidged though? he can take 5 seconds and not let him pass

[pale tinsel]

Piquet Jr deliberately crashed in 2008
but that was into a wall

https://fxtwitter.com/MSportQuotes/status/1929188450021847190?t=FmKS2F6Suo6gQWv_VlrvTw&s=19

Motorsport Bollocks (@MSportQuotes)

🚨 Max Verstappen wins the overtake of the month with this incredible MOVE. 🔥🔥

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FxTwitter · Jun 1, 2025, 2:49 PM

[severe spindle]

Pffft

[glacial pine]

You wouldn't do what max did to let him by if you didn't trust your engineer was making the right call asking you to let him by.

[glacial pine]

And briatore got a life time F1 ban for telling him to do it

[pale tinsel]

Briatore gets a pass cause he's a fuckin gangster though

[pale tinsel]

gp was advising him, ultimately max made the decision himself. it's not like his race engineer was remote controlling the car

[glacial pine]

Exactly. Max decided to do literally none of what anyone asked him

Going for the place the turn after giving it back would have AUTOMATICALLY nullified, to the stewards, the act of giving it back. AND then he hit George too

[pale tinsel]

From what i understand of the rules, as soon as George is ahead it's fair game
these guys will have gone over the rules in 1000x more detail than us. of course he's gonna think he's in the right

Hamilton on Raikonnen 2008 Belgium comes to mind. Hamilton immediately races as soon as Kimi was ahead

[glacial pine]

This came up in Jeddah the first time, giving up places after getting drs then being back ahead before the next corner. Not allowed then. But that was the Michael Masi chaos era

[pale tinsel]

https://youtu.be/A1cS593on7E?si=zbVGV62-6v8SS7GG&utm_source=MTQxZ

[glacial pine]

This was the race being referenced by commentary a few years ago as being the basis for the precedent of not overtaking the corner after giving a place back. Also subtly different because Lewis gave it back immediately, while today max waited a lap, because it was a lot less obvious he needed to give it back, if he even did need to give it back.

[pale tinsel]

https://x.com/EASPORTSF1/status/1929210624413708747?t=Z6JFJoH1iLx0kdXD4Vv3Mg&s=19

EA SPORTS F1 (@EASPORTSF1)

POV: You're racing as Max Verstappen on Lap 64 of the #SpanishGP

#F125

X · Jun 1, 2025, 4:17 PM

[pale tinsel]

https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1929209759732781355?t=tVjums7C7sT5VOsiKpg2yg&s=19

formularacers (@formularacers_)

🚨 | BREAKING: Max Verstappen was given three penalty points for his incident with George Russell.

He is now on 11 penalty points...

Meaning just one point away from a race ban.

X · Jun 1, 2025, 4:13 PM

@granite tangle that's your boy there

[granite tangle]

2 expire next month, also fia just posted that he didnt even have to give the position back

also, his onboard on the crash with russel is MIA

it is only rear facing

just funny overall im enjoying this

[pale tinsel]

true but it's still fun to see

[granite tangle]

oh mate im having a laugh

all these people crying shouting being mad

i just know take verstappen out and every race is boring

at least he pulls through with the entertainment

[glacial pine]

This is very mysterious 🤣

https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/_nO9eA3oX

Footage from Shanghai this morning in the wet

[pale bridge]

Sauber managed to not only leapfrog Alpine but tie with Aston Martin on points but Sauber are ahead by virtue of Nico finishing 5th

[pale bridge]

Oh wow! Townsend Bell is talking to Santino Ferucci during the Red flag, what a surprise

[pale bridge]

Also Verstappen is just 1 penalty point away from a race ban...

[pale tinsel]

https://x.com/milanwyddd/status/1929192720947363872?t=CDjbzyIDanXGzK0KjHOkMQ&s=19

He's making a big brain play

Milan (@milanwyddd)

verstappen trying to get himself banned so he can replace drugovich at le mans after he repalces stroll🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

X · Jun 1, 2025, 3:06 PM

I have been reminded this exists. So everyone else will be reminded this exists
https://youtu.be/3hJawHSCqfg?si=7guLPAdrVQTq6mI9

[severe spindle]

It still is amazing

[severe spindle]

How has he racked up so many penatlies, good lord

[glacial pine]

New fave conspiracy theory

[granite tangle]

NO

[granite tangle]

penalty points are pretty persistent, i mean magnussen racked up a race ban last season and hes the furthest thing from a terrorist XD

[severe spindle]

I mean.. I've seen his driving. He ain't too far off

[glacial pine]

Magnussen is very much NOT the furthest thing from a terrorist 🤣

[severe spindle]

yeah I've seen clips

No disrespect, but he was very unsportsmanlike

[glacial pine]

He's cleaned up his act a lot though

And he was never THAT bad

[granite tangle]

we have worse, magnussen was taking crap machinery way above where it should be

[glacial pine]

Well there is Max I guess

[granite tangle]

fair point

though max's worst was prolly the torro rosso and that was closer to midfield than backmarker i think

[glacial pine]

I was talking about doing penalty point worthy behaviour

[severe spindle]

There have been many examples of very unsportsmanlike champions within F1

And it honestly ends up going back to a discussion and study of whether if this sort of behvaior should be accepeted at all
Than something within F1 itself

At the end of the day, F1 has always been rather barbaric beneath its high status and technological image

I mean for god's sake, it's probably one of the biggest wastes of money man has ever implemented

[severe spindle]

Pfft

I hope it doesn't happen

[severe spindle]

Almost sad

Yuki has been.habinb a rough time

[pale tinsel]

https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1929486834238722237?t=ISZptrRnVMML0W7rHZelZQ&s=19

formularacers (@formularacers_)

🚨 | Flavio Briatore is "not happy at all" with Colapinto's performances so far.

See below:

https://t.co/KauqvgjlMr

X · Jun 2, 2025, 10:34 AM

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-kirk-gif-20910726

[pale tinsel]

https://fxtwitter.com/ahmed_baokbah/status/1929506920324386968?t=_0gkXpfXH_qTtn-bSy8DQg&s=19

ahmed baokbah 🇸🇦 🏎️🛩️ (@ahmed_baokbah)

Streets will remember Massa and Kubica dogfight in Fuji , no track limits , no i was ahead of you in the apex ahh radios , no SuSpEnD RaCe ItS ToO WeT , just racing

Quoting ahmed baokbah 🇸🇦 🏎️🛩️ (@ahmed_baokbah)
︀
Two things in my opinion has to change in formula 1
︀︀
︀︀1- the “ I was ahead at the apex = I can do whatever I want in that corner ”
︀︀
︀︀2- stewards giving 10 sec pens for someone driving in the intent to cause a crash
︀︀
︀︀I still believe Max should’ve kept the position and not give it to George until he threw it all in the bin with a single move by hitting George

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FxTwitter · Jun 2, 2025, 11:54 AM

[severe spindle]

Holy crap, how are they seeing anything racing like this

Also, I disagree

Rules need to exist

[severe spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376604162204106853/1379071008455131206/Screenshot_20250602_071509_Instagram.jpg?ex=683ee776&is=683d95f6&hm=1d4064dfa3637b4f04ae4cbfb24ffee90c789228231669d4b29b2702713935c8&

I've never seen a situation this precarious for an F1 team

Their number 2 driver is possibly leaving the sport, and neither of their reserve drivers are available

[pale bridge]

They may need Bottas given the connection with Mercedes, and he's possibly the only option because Vesti is also racing at Le Mans

[severe spindle]

Yeah that's what I think as well

I don't know if it's possible to get Bottas given rules, but it's not like Aston is spoiled for choice

it's pretty much either him, or somehow being allowed to continue the season with 1 car alone

[granite tangle]

drugovitch alr said if it comes to it he will ditch lemans

idiotic if you ask me, but he did say that

[severe spindle]

I kind of hope he doesn't

Le Mans is more important

But let's be real, he won't be coming for the F1 anyway

He'll be paid an insane sum to abandon Le Mans and come to F1

[granite tangle]

idk the man is basically begging for an f1 seat and he isnt getting it

desperate to prove a point

he cant race in f2 anyway because he's banned (f2 champions are banned after they win)

so its either make a last ditch effort trying to impress someone, or lemans, or formula E

[severe spindle]

Now that's kind of stupid

[severe spindle]

Well, in that case I suppose it makes more sense for him to want to abandon le Mans

[glacial pine]

Do they realise this whole video is a textbook example of "I was ahead at apex I can do whatever"

[glacial pine]

It's a small problem. Checo Perez exists

[pale tinsel]

https://fxtwitter.com/BernabeuNights/status/1929488007708496193?t=RdzWmFeaiJCM9KRSekOTMA&s=19

𝐌𝐄𝐓 (@BernabeuNights)

You’re right. She’s very incompetent. I think Red Bull should sack her.
︀︀
︀︀…and Ferrari should hire her.

Quoting Adit¹ 🇮🇳 M4X (@aditstappen)
︀
i'm afraid we need to start some #uncomfortable conversations

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FxTwitter · Jun 2, 2025, 10:39 AM

[granite tangle]

best strategist of modern time and they wanna blame her for miscommunication

[pale tinsel]

its fine, she's lost a step. Ferrari will take her, they know a thing or two about terrible strategists

[severe spindle]

pfft

I know this ain't very related

But Lando's girlfriend is rather attractive
She was on screen for a bit

[pale tinsel]

allegedly a massive racist too

[severe spindle]

Wait what, really?

That came as a surprise

[pale tinsel]

its just twitter rumours so wouldn't read too much into it

[severe spindle]

Yeah I don't really think it's true anyway

Would be a shame if so however

[granite tangle]

fangirls in twitter are horrible human beings

never trust what they say

[severe spindle]

Most certainly

[severe spindle]

Ehhhh, idon't know about that

Wouldn't mind seeing Hulkenberg do better however

[severe spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630345660520071172/1379234195460587570/F1_VS_INITIAL_D.mp4?ex=683f7f71&is=683e2df1&hm=f797ab9d575b31d1ec3cebe3d5b6d3ca56b3b8e5083ea0cdc65e2b9b0b7b5e80&

I died laughing at that end

[granite tangle]

hes always doing better, just stuck in a terrible car for many many years

i mean penalties aside finishing fucking P5 in a sauber

and hes making an F2 champion look weak compared to him over one lap, bortoletto has a very hard job being in a sauber and being his teammate

if gabi had a pay driver as a teammate i promise you people would be talking about him like the after coming of christ, yet he's flown completely under the radar as far as rookies go

[granite tangle]

@pale tinsel @glacial pine https://vxtwitter.com/f1bigdata/status/1929541298362396954?s=46

Holiness (@F1BigData)

Verstappen's contact with Russell from his onboard

https://t.co/c4ABuReiGg

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 2, 2025, 2:11 PM

They pulled the front facing onboard from the car

[pale tinsel]

such a chaos baller

I love it

didn't even attempt to make the turn lmao

[glacial pine]

I still want to know how they lost it.

Oh max.

He just needs to stop anger getting the better of him before someone actually gets hurt

[granite tangle]

It wasn’t lost the onboard publicly available is just the one broadcasted. The broadcasted camera at the time was rear-facing. To get the other angles they need to retrieve the footage from the car itself

[granite tangle]

Hey man I’m not saying he wasn’t at fault but people calling for public execution are just boring

Oh I know for a fact when he gets that race ban those next few races with a fresh license are gonna be legendary

[pale tinsel]

Ikr. They wouldn't have survived mid 2000's Schumacher or prime Senna

[pale tinsel]

Max Crashtappen is gonna make a return

but tactical crashes

[granite tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[glacial pine]

They bang on about it all the time, but there's a Sky product where you can watch any onboard at any time.

[granite tangle]

I have f1tv mate I have the onboards

But you can’t change the camera angle

When they fuck up the angle it’s always delayed a couple days to get the right one on the VOD

[granite tangle]

people think im gonna stop repping him because he committed terrorism, they DO not know about the 17 and 18 year old max that i have been supporting since XD

[glacial pine]

Oh weird they pick which onboard? I just assumed it meant you had all 20 forward cameras to look at

[granite tangle]

had rosberg praying to baby jesus to not have "him" in front of him

[granite tangle]

it changes up, HALO cam, nose, rear etc. You also get live radio on the onboards and you hear the whole talk with the engineer

[glacial pine]

Just like formula e

[glacial pine]

Max was VERY wise in 2016 and 17 to cause chaos.
He messed up a few strategies by not immediately letting cars past when there were different pit stop strategies, got the cameras pointed at him being brilliant, then made up the time somewhere else.

[pale tinsel]

Max raced overly hard when starting out

Matured his race craft a lot since then

i miss absolute chaos baller teenager max verstappen

[granite tangle]

he has the annual stinker still

[pale tinsel]

Except from 2023

[granite tangle]

but back then you didnt know which one you were getting week in and week out

XD

[pale tinsel]

2023 I don't think he barely put a foot wrong

even singapore where Red Bull weren't winning he just drove his race

[granite tangle]

yea but 2023 he never had to overdrive to gain something

[pale tinsel]

quali maybe? think lawson knocked him out of q2 in a alpha tauri

[granite tangle]

cant remember

2023 was boring

24 was more memorable

from my burning hate for the mclarens alone

22 was fun because it was leclerc and max for a good part of the season and that was genuinely good racing to watch

[pale tinsel]

oh how i miss her and her early competitive form

[granite tangle]

and 21 well, some people still live in 21 dont they XD

[pale tinsel]

Tweetman does

2021 was a great bloody season though, with max vs lewis battles

[granite tangle]

bro i was in deep shit i had to study like hell back then but the holy hour of the european GPs was mine and mine alone to not be bothered

i remember i was screaming in my house in AD21 and i get a call from literally everyone just after screaming max did it or i was getting ranted at for the robbery XD

funny fucking times

[pale tinsel]

was watching it with the missus, laughed at toto getting pissed about it

like yeah, masi fucked it but the reactions were hilarious

[granite tangle]

ΜΙΚΕΥ ΝΟ

[glacial pine]

Do I? 2020 I still hype up that Turkey race

[pale tinsel]

NO NO MIKEY THAT WAS SO NOT RIGHT

[granite tangle]

HAHAHAH

[pale tinsel]

MIKEY YOU NEED TO REINSTATE THAT LAST LAP

[granite tangle]

i miss instanbul (bomb turkey tho lowkey)

[pale tinsel]

Give me back Malaysia

[glacial pine]

It was such a wacky race on that surface. Lance Stroll on pole on pure merit. That picture of Max crying on the floor, the dancing on ice race day

Amazing

[granite tangle]

nah

give me another street track

and put spa on a biyearly schedule

[pale tinsel]

The only street track i want to see happen is Macau

just for the pure chaos

[pale tinsel]

imagine sending f1 round this

https://youtu.be/npPp7l1T_Y4?si=oMON62uxksY8Rx7C&utm_source=MTQxZ

watch after 1:18, after t19

[granite tangle]

oh i remember this

fucked

[pale tinsel]

drift t20

[granite tangle]

on another note

family looking to go on a trip to bologna or florence etc

do i look into renting a ferrari on Imola...

quite tempting

[glacial pine]

You look into that yes absolutely

[pale tinsel]

look into it yes

actually going through with it?

no (yes really)

[granite tangle]

its a terrible financial decision i know, like 400euros for 3 laps, or like 300 for 2

BUT

its a ferrari

and its imola

[severe spindle]

Fair enouggh, I didn't know that

[glacial pine]

Hulkenberg got points at the Nurburgring when he was parachuted in when someone had COVID in 2020

[granite tangle]

speaking of tracks i miss, the ring is one

but the one i miss most

Hockenheim

[pale tinsel]

You know what I'm hoping?
Osama Bin Russell terrorism that makes Max crash out and somehow get a race ban

[glacial pine]

I don't think George would do that

[granite tangle]

ΗΑΗΑ

george is such a PR monster hes made yall have amnesia

almost like its a different guy in the mercedes than he was in the williams

crashing into people and throwing hands with them XD

[granite tangle]

bro i just wanna see what max does AFTER a race ban

absolute cinema that

[pale tinsel]

Oh he would so do that

[glacial pine]

George likes being passive aggressive in interviews too much. It'll lose its power if he runs someone off the road

[severe spindle]

Welcome to Skibidi Baku my dudes

Fun fact, the one time I went to Baku
I actually saw the parts of the streets they had closed off for F1 race held there

Sadly, there wasn't any race there yet, and I couldn't stay there long enough to see the F1 race

[severe spindle]

Pffft

Relatable

[pale tinsel]

fuckin hell @granite tangle just seen someone call verstappen fans the verstaliban

[severe spindle]

Good lord

Thats a bit extreme

To be fair, it's a topic for debate

[granite tangle]

HOLY

https://x.com/hillf1/status/1929422883157090636?s=46

Damon Hill (@HillF1)

@allardkalff @Max33Verstappen Hi Allard. Max was a bit miffed that he was being overtaken. People are angry again. They want me to say one thing or another so they can up the hatred on this 'thing' called 'Social Media'. They only want what confirms their bias. This is no place for a balanced discussion #f1

X · Jun 2, 2025, 6:20 AM

@pale tinsel THE Damon Hill coming in to say that 🤣

[glacial pine]

"a bit miffed" lmao understatement of the year

[granite tangle]

Damon Hill should know better what it’s like being crashed purposefully by your rival

@pale tinsel https://x.com/formularacers_/status/1929874658351783991?s=46
the man that was called a racist and that he didn’t want Yuki in bc he is Asian is DEFENDING him from Christian Horny

formularacers (@formularacers_)

🚨 | Helmut Marko has come to the defence of Yuki Tsunoda.

Marko says Tsunoda isn't to blame for his latest Red Bull struggles.

Here's why:

https://t.co/0UzYR3cNYk

X · Jun 3, 2025, 12:15 PM

The absolute times we live in man

[pale tinsel]

what

hold on

what

and its not formulafakers

[glacial pine]

Helmut MArko said that?!?!

[granite tangle]

Yes he did ladies and gentlemen

Shit must be really rough in RBR if Helmut is saying that

I just hope he fixes the situation before he retires and leaves

Cause if he leaves that burning sinking ship it’ll go to hell by itself

[severe spindle]

pffft, yup..

[severe spindle]

F1 has more drama than a soap opera

[pale tinsel]

https://x.com/wearetherace/status/1929935011773366677?t=uGo5qrP1RXlwZTVDpRV6cw&s=19

The Race (@wearetherace)

🚨 Cadillac's landed its first sponsor for its new #F1 team - and its a big one too

It's announced a deal with ex-Mercedes sponsor Tommy Hilfiger to bring the clothing giant back to grand prix racing ➡️ https://t.co/i5mEj1tzum
https://t.co/i5mEj1tzum

X · Jun 3, 2025, 4:15 PM

lewis hamilton to cadillac confirmed

[severe spindle]

Pfffft

Nah man, that would make history if it happens

honestly I read somewehre that Hamilton is thinking of retiring after 2025

Don't know how true it is however

[severe spindle]

is it just a sponsor, or a title sponsor?

[granite tangle]

No one knows but Tommy Hilfiger mainly did clothing for Mercedes and had the sponsor on the car

With apparel brands the advertising is prominent as much in the drivers’ fashion as much as it’s on the car itself

So I do doubt that they’ll go for a title sponsor sponsorship

Though it’s not unheard of (AlphaTauri)

And Benetton too

[granite tangle]

https://x.com/verstappenews/status/1929945907602305229 @pale tinsel real quote

Verstappen News (@verstappenews)

🗣️ Flavio Briatore, on who he would like to have in Alpine: “Two Verstappens — because I’ve got two cars.”

X · Jun 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

[glacial pine]

I hope one day we see max with inter team rivalry

[strong kite]

Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton

Most cursed teamup ever

[granite tangle]

https://x.com/SCUDERIAFEMBOY/status/1929947089108144390

nini (@SCUDERIAFEMBOY)

“who is the greatest driver of all time?”

flavio briatore: “i don’t know about of all time, because we’ve had schumacher, senna, alonso... right now, the number one is definitely max verstappen.”

[corriere della sera]

X · Jun 3, 2025, 5:03 PM

briatore

he is not joining alpine

stop the glaze 😭

[granite tangle]

the closest we had was def with daniel

tho i think you prolly mean a rivalry that they would hate each others guts on and off track

which yea max hasnt had

[glacial pine]

I wanted this so badddd in 2022 it would have been so spicy

[glacial pine]

I meant pace rivalry, but I think max would make one lead to the other

[strong kite]

Everybody on the team would've gotten PTSD but

Guaranteed WCC

[granite tangle]

idk man he's literally ripped every teammate he had apart

[glacial pine]

Yeah by being dramatically faster

[granite tangle]

itd have to be someone elite at minimum

and to have 2 elite drivers in their prime at the same team is rare

[granite tangle]

yeah i mean i absolutely love albon now but when he was in the same car as max i genuinely thought he was terrible

man's confidence was none existent after a point in the season

[severe spindle]

I never knew what AlphaTuari was

[granite tangle]

neither did a lot of people dw XD

[severe spindle]

Hehehe

glad I wasn't alone

So Benetton was a clothing brand too?

These teams' names were clothing brands

[severe spindle]

Aston wants him, Mercedes wants him, and now Alpine wants him
Crazy

[granite tangle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benetton_Group

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I don't blame him

[severe spindle]

Seems kind of silly ngl

So Benetton was essnetially owned by them

[granite tangle]

benetton used to be quite popular and trendy back then afaik

[severe spindle]

It's kind of funny regardless

it's like Stake F1 team

Like Stake hasn't just founded a team or something

They own them, but they also renamed

At least stake was decent enouygh to recognize it would be silly

And so the team's name in practice is Kick Sauber

[granite tangle]

stake doesnt own them

its a weird one

sauber needed a title sponsor

alpha romeo was that for them for many years

it wasnt an alpha romeo works team, it was a sauber works team with an alfa romeo title sponsor

thats kinda what stake has taken up

and i dont think stake will stay when they become audi

[severe spindle]

Most likely not
but what you mention does spark some questions

Because let me explain

Alfa Romeo wasn't a title sponsor

They owned the team partially

Hence why the cars weren't known as Saubers alone at that point

Why is this so? because Kick already sponsored the cars back in 2023

https://www.media.stellantis.com/cache/4/b/1/6/e/4b16ea9ccaa386071b73742d3c50e643fe0d4cd5.jpeg

This is an Alfa Romeo Sauber, whose title sponsor is Stake

[granite tangle]

yeah youre right

[severe spindle]

Stake just increased their share when 2023 came along

[granite tangle]

i tried to generalize it

[severe spindle]

And Alfa Romeo sold theirs

[granite tangle]

my main point was that stake/kick etc. isnt a works team

[severe spindle]

I understand what you mean, and it is really confusing from an outsider view

And yeah it isn't

[granite tangle]

they just fund the sauber works team to make cars that are branded in their colors

a lot of teams operated like that

[severe spindle]

it's kind of interesting
Because Benetton wasn't quite like that

Either the Benetton team existed in some form or another prior to being caled benetton

Or they really are a Benetton works team

[granite tangle]

for example when redbull used to bear the Aston Martin brand, even though they used Honda as their engines

[severe spindle]

Really? I didn't know that

Actually that makes sense

[severe spindle]

Because Redbull is rebranded stwarts Ford

And Redbull was owned by Ford at the time

[granite tangle]

and this redbull, had the renault PU

[severe spindle]

So they used Aston martin to have Redbull as their subsidary

[severe spindle]

I still have no idea what Infiniti was here
I mean i get it, Infiniti is owned by Nissan, Nissan is owned by Renault, Renault gives power unit

Actually that explains perfectly

I wonder if Redbull is still owned by Ford

[granite tangle]

an effort to popularize infinity with the public

in a last ditch effort era for infinity

[severe spindle]

Indeed

It was such a move

the world of F1 sponsorship and owning can be very confusing indeed

I mean I always wondered something myself

Does the victory of a team count to when the team gets rebrnaded?

Like does Brawn's WDC count towards Mercedes-AMG's WDC, or does Benetton's WDC count towards Alpine's WDC?

[granite tangle]

its actually quite hilarious how redbull took over Ford's disaster and turned it into the most successful team of the 2000s with 8 world championships

and now that ford and redbull are collaborating again it marks RBR's fall from grace (max probably cant win a championship this year, engine rumours are showing favorable for Mercedes and Honda only)

[severe spindle]

Or does Toro Rosso's WDC count towards Minardi?

[severe spindle]

Redbull took Jaguar's disaster and made something of it
And now they're about to fall into the same pit of nonsense

[granite tangle]

i guess not, not for the general public mind at least

[severe spindle]

Suffice to say, i still don't really understand how F1 brands and sponsors work

I mean teams can name themselves however they like

Mercedes could have renamed themselves Mercedes-Brawn if they wanted

But the whole world of sponsors and such is always quite a confusing one

[granite tangle]

brawn (the guy) had nothing to do with the team after he sold it tho

[severe spindle]

The team is still the same though

Same place, same crew

Besides, it ain't uncommon for teams to keep older names or designs even when they rebrand

Take the fact that team Impul's GT500 GTRs and 400zs were still blue and labeled Calsonic after Calsonic had gone bankrupt

[glacial pine]

They just kinda do whatever they feel like

[severe spindle]

Yeah that's what I've discovered too

It's kind of all down to the business side of it

How much a title sponsor is owed to by the team, who owns the team or how much they own, etc etc

I mean I still don't know if 2026 audi will actually be called Audi F1 team or Audi Sauber F1 team

Given mr Sauber hasn't left, and nothing about their previous endevours are gonna change any time soon

Still running Ferrari PUs, still the same chassis just modified

It's just that Audi has come to own a bigger share of Sauber than Stake, Alfa Romeo or BMW ever did

Plus, Audi realizes that Sauber is too big of a name to leave out of the team's name entirely

I'm sure they'll call it something like what Stake did

It'll be Audi F1 team Audi Sport Sauber

[granite tangle]

audi is going full audi. Sauber is exiting. Power unit will be developed by Audi, and according to the rumours they are REALLY behind

[severe spindle]

That

's the thing

THey aren't gonna make the Pus in time

or the chassis

They promised they were gonna do everything on their own, but they obviously cannot

hence why I don't think in their first year they'll actually be called fully Audi

Because they don't actually own anything of the team bar the team's market share

I won't be surprised if for 2026, they'll just act as a Title sponsor, before renaming the team for 2027

[granite tangle]

Actually they literally can’t supply a different engine anymore

I think the deadlines are past closed

They chose this

[severe spindle]

Then they are in the thick of it already

Hence my theory

[granite tangle]

The 2026 car is entirely new, nothing the same from the past regulation set

[severe spindle]

I don't mean that the 2026 car isn't new

I'm saying that its chassis and engine aren't by Audi

[granite tangle]

The chassis can’t be supplied

The engine they could have supplied from any other PU manufacturer but they chose against it

Can or cannot, this is what they have to do

If they can’t the car won’t be on the grid

Cadillac played it smart, signed a 2 year deal with a supplier and said, let’s make a car, and 2028 we are making our own engine

[severe spindle]

Yeah Cadillac had a better plan going into it

Not to mention, Cadillac was smart enough to not close their entire other racing division because of it

Still don't get why Audi did what they did

One of the most successful teams in all of GT and Prototype endurance racing, and they threw it away for Formula 1

[granite tangle]

God knows

[severe spindle]

For a garantueed chance of failure

We know Audi will never win anything

[granite tangle]

Maybe

[severe spindle]

Big car maker rebrands never do

[granite tangle]

Most likely they’ll suck ass in their first years

That’s for certain

[granite tangle]

Well there was Mercedes…

[severe spindle]

They'll definitely be a backmarker for most of 2026 and 2027

Yeah but remember Mercedes' initial years? IF they didn't have Schumacher to help develop, they would have never gotten anywhere
And Vettel helped with Aston, and yet Aston never actually improved any bit

It's just game of chance

[granite tangle]

Everyone said that about Mercedes when they signed a retired Schumacher to help them develop a car and only managed 5th in the WCC

Yeah but people thought they’d suck forever

And told Hamilton he made a career ending move by taking over what Schumacher left

[severe spindle]

it is true for most teams, Mercedes just ended up being the exception

[granite tangle]

Of course

[severe spindle]

Indeed, I remember even Jeremy said that

Going from Mclaren to Mercedes

[granite tangle]

Aston got a huge leap after Seb. Had a podium contending car in the hands of Alonso for a good part of 2023

And then they fucked it

Completely in the bin

[severe spindle]

And they'll continue to bin it

Sure they'll have Newey for 2026

But like.. I don't see how that'll change anything

Redbull didn't start winning because of Newey, and neither will Aston

It goes far beyond having a decent car designer

THey literally don't even have a number 2 driver right now

[severe spindle]

I think they jumped the gun, but I suppose we'll see

I think for 2026 all the winning teams will struggle

Redbull is already at turmoil, Mercedes power units are failing back and forth

And Mclaren's dominance is not garantueed to carry into 2026

And Lewis definitely won't be racing for Ferrari in 2026

[glacial pine]

Bold. Very bold

[severe spindle]

He already seems sick of them

And they seem sick of him

[glacial pine]

Can you blame him? Lol

[granite tangle]

Lewis finished P5 and he felt like the happiest man alive when the Tifosi cheered him on in Imola

[severe spindle]

Absolutely not

[granite tangle]

Now imagine when he gets his first proper podium

[glacial pine]

I hope he has a miracle win at monza

[granite tangle]

This team puts them through hell but he will get Stockholm syndrome soon

[severe spindle]

and you forget how they berate him every time he doesn't
He didn't even wanna talk after Spanish GP

[glacial pine]

Ferrari will be putting a LOT into their Monza special

[granite tangle]

He had a career bad race in Spain I don’t blame him

[severe spindle]

Ferrari couldn't do shit at Imola
THeir home turf

They'll continue to do nothing for Monza, because they can't do nothing

John wick moment

[glacial pine]

It was going okay, but that restart shook things up

[severe spindle]

And then a backmarker team with their same PU overtook him

[granite tangle]

It’s okay to admit that a great had a bad race once

Max had a massive stinker after the restart too

[severe spindle]

Indeed

Suffice to say, I don't see Hmailton staying

I get why all these WDCs join Ferrari

[granite tangle]

It’s not too far fetched

[severe spindle]

Winning for Ferrari a WDC is always much more meaningful than winning for any other team

[granite tangle]

I just happen to disagree because most drivers overstay their welcome in the scuderia rather than understay

[severe spindle]

And he can place bimself with greats such as Schimacher, Raikkonen, mansell, Prost and etc if he ever wins for Ferrari

But that sure ain't happening

[severe spindle]

You do forget that Hamilton isn;t most drivers

He barely has a life within F1

Probably the least spoken F1 driver

His life exists outside of F1 now

[granite tangle]

Well I’m just saying Hamilton in Ferrari could very well end up wasting many years of his career, quite similar to Alonso

[severe spindle]

Well this year's a complete waste for him anyway

If he'll ever have a chance, it'll be for 2026

And that's why I am doubting whether if he'll stay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376604162204106853/1379536454572707942/0bac81ca0832ecdb0d0e7cc19608f275.png?ex=684098f1&is=683f4771&hm=6c40059b6fc356e8acf138690b160c10aa83e9a14ff131b14061abab38af885e&

He is a literal goat now

[glacial pine]

Best first year to join a team, just before new regs

A year of getting part of the team
And hopefully a great next year

[severe spindle]

I suppose we'll see

I do hope they can do it

But literally nothing is garanuteed

[severe spindle]

Forza Motorsport 7's car list is not a weakness of it
Because it has so many awesome cars
And it introduces me to so many different various classes
It is no wonder that FM7 brought about the whole homologation system to keep the slew of cars it has in its various classes equal
it's in effect a Forza version of Balance of Performance, or BoP
Today alone, I learned about IMSA GTP, IMSA DP, various effect GT3s and GTEs

I'm abot to say something some of you may find controversial

[pale tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

[severe spindle]

I find the previous era of F1 cars rather ugly looking

And the current era of their designs the best they've looked in a long time

https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/images/mgl/Y99pVz8Y/s800/aston-martin-amr21-detail-1.jpg

https://www.astonmartin.com/-/media/models---amr25/heros/amr25_hero_desktop.jpg?mw=1920&rev=-1&hash=252FBA9A3B1DE9CEDFE9C415C87C9970

The previous generation feels too long, too cluttered, too messy with different design aspect

THe current ones feel so much cooler to look at

Much sleeker and less cluttered

And somehow look smaller despite not being smaller

And it helps that their halo feels implemnted and not tacked on

[pale tinsel]

I see your point, but the 2014-2016 and 2017-2021 regs did produce some good lookers

[severe spindle]

They definitely had their highlights

But overall, it feels like the deisgns grew too cluttered as they went on

I mean look at that car's nose

It seems to have a dent upwards

Midway

[pale tinsel]

Oh yeah, the finger noses were ass

remnants of the dildo noses

[severe spindle]

I understand sometimes to be faster, they needed to priortize utility over looks

But the current generation just sell the whole V6 idea so much better to me

[pale tinsel]

ferrari in 2015 had an elegant design

[severe spindle]

They feel like they are designed

[severe spindle]

Now that's definitely a highlight of that era

[pale tinsel]

arguably

[granite tangle]

https://x.com/alons_hoe/status/1929891810370900334?s=46

Danny⚡️💚 | PRIDE MONTH!! 🏳️‍🌈👏🏼 (@alons_hoe)...

We’ve got Lance’s ENGINEER saying these claims aren’t true, when tf are the rest of his team going to defend their driver?????

X · Jun 3, 2025, 1:23 PM

[pale tinsel]

the 2016 version was a better looker

[granite tangle]

So uh

[pale tinsel]

had more white on it

[granite tangle]

Apparently as always

The media is over exaggerating the stroll situation

That comment is from his engineer

[pale tinsel]

yeah saw that

just usual media bs

[granite tangle]

And well I don’t think he has a reason to lie in a random instagram post

[severe spindle]

Perfect design

[severe spindle]

I never believed it to begin with frankly

[granite tangle]

Yeah but it had the penis

[severe spindle]

Like do people not know who Stroll is?

He seems like one of the nicest people on the F1 grid

[pale tinsel]

micropenis*

[granite tangle]

Stroll is a bit immature but he certainly ain’t a terrible person the media tried painting him as

[pale tinsel]

I would also argue the shark fins should have stayed

i loved the shark fins man

[granite tangle]

He also may be spoiled but he isn’t hitting people for not getting what he wants spoiled

[severe spindle]

Certainly
Media loves to make fun of him, as do fans

[granite tangle]

Never did it before why would he now

[severe spindle]

The shark fins.. I am conflicted ngl

They feel cool

But they don't jell with the overall open wheel design

[granite tangle]

They were cool, small fins made a return but they didn’t last

[severe spindle]

They work brilliantly with Prototypes howeer

[granite tangle]

This one is from the good looking ones, the McLaren fin was quite egregious

[pale tinsel]

the teams did some cool integrations with it

[severe spindle]

Fair enough then

Guess I've mostly see bad ones

[pale tinsel]

mercedes put the drivers nationality on it

[severe spindle]

Frankly it should become a standard

But all and all

For all the faults of current F1 cars

Their desigms, I really like them

They grew on me very quickly

THey feel almost like fictional F1 car designs you saw back in the day

[pale tinsel]

sponsorless sauber did a really nice anniversary livery in 2017

[granite tangle]

This had people truly torn

[severe spindle]

Oh man, that is beautiful

[severe spindle]

The high nose was such a strange era of its own

[granite tangle]

I remember that it was cool

[severe spindle]

I won't say the designs were bad

But they were..different

[pale tinsel]

oh does anyone remember when McLaren tested the 2009 nose structure on the 2008 car?

[granite tangle]

I mean the cars turned up from one race to another back then and looked like a different car

So I get you

[pale tinsel]

cause a lot of people hated it, but like i thought it looked quite sleek

look how good that looked

[severe spindle]

Yeah they were developing alot

[severe spindle]

Not bad honestly

[granite tangle]

Those noses were weird too

[severe spindle]

But you know what I liked most?

https://motorsportmagazine.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Fernando-Alonso-chases-down-Michael-Schumacher-in-the-2005-Japanese-Grand-Prix-at-Suzuka.jpg

The curved splitter era

[pale tinsel]

then the actual 2009 car

[severe spindle]

That was the F1 I grew up with

[pale tinsel]

B&H Jordan era

[granite tangle]

We are going kinda back there slowly so that’s a nice change to freshen the grid up

[severe spindle]

Yup, I am glad the current designs are taking great inspiration

[severe spindle]

hell, the current F1 cars feel like repeats of that era

Maybe that's why I like them

They feel as sleek as those did

[granite tangle]

Fight me man but

Grooved tires had so much more aura

Can we get Firestone or Goodrich back

[severe spindle]

How long ago were grooved tires?

I frankly can't reemember

[pale tinsel]

2009 last used

2010 we moved to slicks

[severe spindle]

Seriously? hot damn

Nearly 15 years

[granite tangle]

I mean slicks are faster tires

[pale tinsel]

or was it 2008? one of the two

[granite tangle]

But the grooved ones looked so cool

[pale tinsel]

mb, 2008 last used

[granite tangle]

Also different manufacturers was a good concept that flopped sadly

[pale tinsel]

Fell apart after usa 2005

[granite tangle]

Because they just used the most dangerous tire to gain even a slight advantage XD

[pale tinsel]

michelin were on borrowed time since then

and its easier for the fia to specify a tyre from one manufacturer

[granite tangle]

Yeah I’m just a hater

And I loved seeing different branding on the tire walls and stuff

[pale tinsel]

Michelin tyres were the one man

[granite tangle]

Nah they all were sexy as fuck

Wouldn’t have any car from that era with a different tire

[pale tinsel]

Alonso's R25 looked so weird on pirelli slicks

[granite tangle]

Yeah but it was flying

[severe spindle]

This is really cool
I found this instragram post of current F1 regs with 2005 liveries
YOu have HP BMW Sauber, West Mclaren-Mercedes, Mild Seven Renault, Malboro Ferrari and Lucky Strike Honda

[granite tangle]

Goes to show

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Aura

[severe spindle]

I would love to see them make homage liveries to these at some point
Maybe they already have

[granite tangle]

It looks wrong but if that’s what it took for Alonso to take it for a spin so be it

[severe spindle]

THis was a bit of a weird one

[granite tangle]

They can’t do the cigarette ones the likeness is enough to get the teams in serious trouble

[severe spindle]

Really? Even the likeness can get them in trouble?

[pale tinsel]

ok I'm in love

[granite tangle]

Well Ferrari did some stuff after the tobacco bans..

And they’ve been especially strict since…

[pale tinsel]

yep. ferraris barcode livery almost got them in trouble

[severe spindle]

Yoooo, that's a modern Jordan Alpine

wait no not Alpine

[granite tangle]

Wording it as if they were innocent XD god I love that

[pale tinsel]

oh yeah they totally were

dunno what you're talking about

[severe spindle]

Modern Jordan Aston, my bad

[pale tinsel]

whoever designed this abomination though

different story

[severe spindle]

Well they could do something else

Just make them red and white with somewhat design simialrities

But hey, I don't know the details

[pale tinsel]

the barcode was their something else

[severe spindle]

That's weak

[severe spindle]

Weird then, I wouldn't done that

But oh well

[pale tinsel]

got them in trouble in 2010

[severe spindle]

I would have put the new title sponsor in the malboro branded logo

[pale tinsel]

and that was the last ferrari to run subliminal marlboro branding for a few years

[severe spindle]

Fair enough

Mclaren could just run some silver liveries sometimes

THey were Silver for most of their life

[granite tangle]

You see, Marlboro was the title sponsor in that car..

[severe spindle]

Malboro still sponsored the car by then? THat changes everything

[pale tinsel]

Dunno how much of it was true, but marlboro basically bought the sponsorship of the whole car and sold it off themselves

[pale tinsel]

marlboro only got dropped as a sponsor quite recently. like 2022 or something iirc

[granite tangle]

Well if you ask Ferrari they will say oh no just a coincidental barcode there nothing to see

[severe spindle]

Oh well, that's what F1 manager games are for
Making homages to these livieres

[severe spindle]

SERIOUSLY?!

[granite tangle]

Even though when moving at speed the likeness to the marlboro logo was intentional

[severe spindle]

I thought it was dropped far longer before

[pale tinsel]

yeah just double checked, PMI deal ended 2022

[severe spindle]

Christ altmight...

i had thought tobaco sponsors were banned long before

[granite tangle]

Oh they were

[severe spindle]

Oh

[pale tinsel]

Ferrari are just Ferrari though

[severe spindle]

Guess they were above the rules

[granite tangle]

Ferrari did a LOT of shit in the late 10s

Such as making an engine that reaches top speed in spa before the eau rouge

🤣

[severe spindle]

How the hell lol

How short were rhe gears xd

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Illegal fuel mixture

[pale tinsel]

Oil burning or something i believe

[granite tangle]

That they didn’t give to customer teams

[severe spindle]

oooooh

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XD

[severe spindle]

Goddamn, that is pretty illegal

[pale tinsel]

Basically exploiting a grey area with the sensors

[granite tangle]

Just Ferrari in 2019 nothing to see

[severe spindle]

XD

Insane man

[pale tinsel]

Like, even mercedes slipstreaming and in drs couldn't catch the Ferraris, thats how much they were cheating

"allegedly"

[severe spindle]

That is a very insanely big advantage they had

[granite tangle]

Before everyone shifted their attention to Mercedes with DAS and Redbull with the bib

It was either Ferrari making something illegal

Or snitching someone for being illegal

Every year

[severe spindle]

Pffft

[granite tangle]

XD

[pale tinsel]

Ferrari the dumb fucks could have cheated a little, but nah they had to go full power and ruin their 2020 season

[severe spindle]

Ironic you say that, caise it was true even back in Lauda's era

With him snitching on Hunt

[severe spindle]

F1 teams are really stupid

THey can't make a car and win without cheating somehow

Then again

What we call cheating, they call innvoation

[pale tinsel]

That's what we need more of

[severe spindle]

What, them cheating?

[granite tangle]

Yeah it’s fun

People going on crusades

Cars being nonsensically fast

[severe spindle]

it makes for a spactcle for the viewers, but not so much for the spirit of the sport

[granite tangle]

Every team joining in to cheat too

for FIA to ban it 2 weeks later

That’s F1

[severe spindle]

can't deny, every car being buffed would be fun

But then again

These drivers barely survive as it is

No need to risk their lives any further

[pale tinsel]

F1 is supposed to be cutting edge, but it seems like every sort of innovation gets sniped by the FIA

[granite tangle]

I mean mini idk if you know about it but have you heard of the F duct

[severe spindle]

Well it can't be called cutting edge when it destroys the point of a competition

And other tesams aren't even allowed to copy

So it just means a team will be dominant regardless

[granite tangle]

That had drivers steering full throttle with 1 hand on the steering wheel to abuse a device that required their hand to fill a hole inside the cockpit XD

[severe spindle]

Oh yeah I remember that

It wasn't even that long ago

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Mid 10s I believe

[severe spindle]

Was kind of funny more than anything

I don't think it even made that big of an advantage

[granite tangle]

That’s what we are saying

[severe spindle]

But really, F1 is a mess

[granite tangle]

Extremely dangerous illegal shit is funny a lot of times

[severe spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/illegal-hahaha-gif-20464836

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https://youtu.be/EDufPlyYG9A?si=9ftBLOSzICmfCdqL

Man this thing sounds good

[glacial pine]

2008 was my favourite F1 car look. You can almost see the wind tunnel on these shapes and surfaces. I love it

[severe spindle]

Whose car is that green car?

I had never seen that befotr

As for the 2008 era look

Yeesh

Very cluttered

Kind of cool however

[glacial pine]

That was honda. In 2008 they were on a PR green 💚 environmental crusade. Also sponsor less. So they had environmentalism marketing and quit the sport the day before hybrids came in.

[severe spindle]

Interesting...

So they Really wanted to set an enviorlemanist message

In the world's top racing experience?

Not sure whether if it's them being pretentious
Actually meaning something
Or just a PR stunt

[glacial pine]

Well everyone who wasn't an oil company executive pretty much agreed that not cooking ourselves to death was a good idea
So honda wanted to say they were trying.

So it's probably a mix of all those options

[severe spindle]

I suppose thats fair
And while I understand for normal cars, regulations never made sense for race cars or performance cars

There's so few of them, their emissions barely amount to anything

But at the end, more than following regulations, its about saving money

Personally, I prefer to not see any environmental movement in motorsports, but I suppose it's inevitable

By thr way, was playing FM7 today

It had 2 generations of Formula E cars

It was rather cool
It had a few teams which don't seem to be In thr sport anymore

[pale bridge]

Not 2 generations, it's just the Gen1 and an updated version of it, we never got the Gen2 and we don't have the current Gen3 car in FM

[pale bridge]

Some are still there but rebranded, e.g. Audi Sport ABT is now Lola Yamaha ABT, DS Virgin is Envision, Dragon is DS Penske, Venturi is Maserati and NextEV TCR is Cupra Kiro, Techeetah is gone when DS partnered with Penske

[pale tinsel]

https://x.com/RandomWECMemes/status/1930009947313766705?t=nMCWTFjgoV3mINbQWGUMxQ&s=19

Random WEC Memes (@RandomWECMemes)

Imagine

X · Jun 3, 2025, 9:13 PM

designated terror group by nato if this becomes a lineup

[granite tangle]

make it happen

[severe spindle]

Ahhh, that's the sort of knowledge only a savvy fan would know. Thank you for telling me

[severe spindle]

Fair enough. I didn't know that.

[severe spindle]

Good lord

We can expect murder

[glacial pine]

I want this so bad

No way they make the end of a race

[pale tinsel]

no way they make it to the end of the first lap

[severe spindle]

Yeah first turn and everyone goes "dead"

[severe spindle]

"Geroge, what happened?!"
"No, it's just unfair. I'm leading, he wants to pass, he pushed me, I push him back, and after he pushed me off the track. It's not fair right?"
"Thank you, thank you George"

"Max, what happened with uhh, George?"
"Nothing, just an inchident in the race."

[severe spindle]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Ferrari_641-2_front-left2_Museo_Ferrari.jpg

Man, the Ferrari 641 has to be one of the best Ferrari designs of all time

hell, best Formula 1 designs of all time

it just has everything it needs to have and more

And it was driven by Nigel Mansell, my personal favorite old school F1 driver, all the more reason to like it

[pale tinsel]

There's a picture I want to post of Fernando Alonso

but i may run afoul of nsfw rules

sooo you know

I'll hold off

[granite tangle]

Is it a tweet

[pale tinsel]

it is

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In which Alonso is sticking his tongue out making a funny face

[pale tinsel]

Yes it is

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Seen XD

[pale tinsel]

Your goats could never

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Pfft

You could provide post it

It's just another Alonso situation

https://youtube.com/shorts/gd7yBu-NbK4?si=w0ovV3uEsHuZfcyZ

Ngl, if anyone knows anything about running people off, it's Hill
When he got ass fucked by Schumacher in 1994

And yeah I don't get it either

It's just very unsportaman like to do

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376604162204106853/1379842845934092339/Screenshot_20250604_162225_Instagram.jpg?ex=6841b64a&is=684064ca&hm=ba1234986ae5a1cf6cf96a2b0db513d758cc3a1cad210bfba3da8077c7f9b1ae&

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https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/img_8901-jpeg.30018879/

In one scene of Transformers rise of the beasts, Mirage took the form of this

I don't wanna call it with confidence a F1 car

But perhaps you guys actually recognize what this is

Wait, I think I have found it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAR_002

Now that is a deep cut

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https://youtube.com/shorts/suXsv6ic1ac?si=-y_WoS-V5ve-hRn1

Man, Charles is adorable

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https://x.com/bearmanenjoyer/status/1930277568122368283 @pale tinsel

vivi #FuckFred (@bearmanenjoyer)

“charles leclerc fans have the ugliest credit cards” say that again 💀

X · Jun 4, 2025, 2:56 PM

[severe spindle]

Ugliest credit cards? Who even says that lol

[glacial pine]

People who want Charles Leclerc fans to prove their credit cards look great, front and back

[granite tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueBOKLl1LWE

i forgot they had christian horner, briatore and bernie in this bit

[severe spindle]

Pfft

Horner being frustrated

Briatore being incompetent

And Bernie being a cheater

[severe spindle]

Ooooh, fair enough

Now I get it

[pale tinsel]

@granite tangle https://fxtwitter.com/ahmed_baokbah/status/1930429257122984353?t=PnIxw7xTqBCQ7NLjt9LmqA&s=19

ahmed baokbah 🇸🇦 🏎️🛩️ (@ahmed_baokbah)

😭😭😭 I laughed sooo hard , fair play man

**💬 5 🔁 2 ❤️ 142 👁️ 3.6K **

FxTwitter · Jun 5, 2025, 12:59 AM

[severe spindle]

Pffft

The jokes write themselves

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https://x.com/F1/status/1930275348064739335

Formula 1 (@F1)

"We will know more in the coming days"

Aston Martin's Mike Krack has provided more background on Lance Stroll's injury, with 'Plan A' for the Canadian to race on home soil 💨

#F1
https://t.co/ABWIdLvmpL

X · Jun 4, 2025, 2:48 PM

i forgot he was actually called that..

[glacial pine]

Could be Drugovich's time to shine

[severe spindle]

Pffft

At least all top drivers have experienced it

[granite tangle]

@severe spindle @pale tinsel

[severe spindle]

THIS WAS A THING?!

Holy crap

Man these specials were unhinged

[strong kite]

No Ferrari on the cover is wild

Wait @granite tangle is that yours?

[severe spindle]

I would be amazed if so

[lofty mirage]

Would be sick

[glacial pine]

I keep forgetting studio Liverpool was doing F1 games

[severe spindle]

Different times

[granite tangle]

no it was a spain only special edition

just posted bc i found it rad

[glacial pine]

He's kind of serving brat summer hi fashion model in the picture... Fernando is so ahead of the curve sometimes

[severe spindle]

hehehe

yup, he looked very different back then

You almost can't even recognize him

I always see the Porsche 917 in many different shapes and forms, so I decided to check and see what it was, how it did, where it raced, and etc etc.

Here's how it did as a short summery:
1969:

• Developed and released the Porsche 917 for Group 4 Sports cars (5.0+ displacement allowed and 25 road models needed)
• Developed and released the 917PA for Can-Am series under Group 7
• Proved too hard to control and caused DNFs and that year was won by the Ford GT MKI

1970:

• FIA changed the Group 4 regulations to Group 5, same prerequisites
• Developed the better 917K, managed to win in Group 5

1971:

• The new 917K variant and the 917/20 (pink pig) were developed
• 917K managed to win Le Mans again

1972:

• FIA scrapped the whole 5.0+ regulation and Group 5 became what Group 6 was until 1971, 3.0 Prototypes
• 917 for European series was scrapped
• Developed and released the 917/10 for Can-Am

1973:

• Developed and released the 917/30 for Can-Am
• It was so good that for 1974 they had to ban all Turbo engines

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/F1_25_cover_art.jpg

I just can't get over Sainz' mustache

He looks so dangerous now xd

I always wondered something about F1 games' covers however

They always put certain drivers on the cover, but is there any actual rhythm or reason?

I mean Piastri is killing the F1 season thus far, sure
But Sainz and Bearman? Especially Bearman?

The F1 24 cover had Leclerc, Hamilton and Norris

I assume it's just some business deal on who gets to be on the cover
But I do wonder if there is any actual reason

[granite tangle]

when this one got announced people joked it had 3 second drivers on the cover

these past couple years there isnt much of a recipe on who gets to be the cover on the base game

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https://x.com/PG10_FanactuFr/status/1930293271676219563

PG_10FanpageFr 🇫🇷 (@PG10_FanactuFr)

🔵 Paul Aron est actuellement en tests à Monza avec l’A523 !

Une préparation à une future titularisation à la place de Franco Colapinto qui est sous contrat contrat jusqu’à l’Autriche.

#F1 #Alpine

X · Jun 4, 2025, 3:59 PM

@pale tinsel @glacial pine @pale bridge HAHAHAHAH

[glacial pine]

Place you bets on which race he debuts in

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https://x.com/Planet_F1/status/1930629355199185179

PlanetF1 (@Planet_F1)

Valtteri Bottas on joining Red Bull:

"I think there’s certain persons, or a person, within the Red Bull organisation that, for some reason, is not a big fan of mine."

https://t.co/H4ihcqymVy

X · Jun 5, 2025, 2:14 PM

[glacial pine]

Who could dislike bottass?

[severe spindle]

Pfft, that may be the theme xd

[severe spindle]

A bit of a shame
But I guess if they did they wouldn't have many different drivers

[severe spindle]

Unbelievable

[severe spindle]

He'll end up disliking himself if he joins Redbull

[severe spindle]

Based Bottas

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https://x.com/autosport/status/1930942759969411264?s=46

Autosport (@autosport)

Rome's taxi drivers and firms aren't happy with Toto Wolff's comments comparing Max Verstappen's "road rage" incident to their driving styles 👀🇮🇹

X · Jun 6, 2025, 11:00 AM

@pale tinsel

Read headline

HAHAHA

[pale bridge]

They can't deny that he's right, Italian taxi drivers are aggressive and are often full of it

[granite tangle]

When I went to Rome I swear the guy was going 80 on a 30, also red lights are suggestions in Italy

[granite tangle]

https://x.com/autosport/status/1930924785225052556?s=46

Autosport (@autosport)

Peugeot has aspirations to build a new Le Mans Hypercar as part of a long-term commitment to the WEC 🛠️

Full story ⬇️

https://t.co/4P3MRPbF3T

X · Jun 6, 2025, 9:48 AM

[glacial pine]

Watch them make something FAR more generic

Fun thought experiment!
If they were to field a GT3 LM car what would they base it on...

[severe spindle]

That'd be unexpected

[severe spindle]

What'll happen to the 9X8 though

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https://youtu.be/wtWFaTz3l_U?si=Y2zx9IDDkkYw3vgG

That accent lol

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https://www.dailysportscar.com/2025/06/06/drugovich-fully-focused-on-le-mans-amid-f1-call-up-speculation.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=drugovich-fully-focused-on-le-mans-amid-f1-call-up-speculation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376604162204106853/1380555409600937994/RDT_20250606_1534015551744545891021669.jpg?ex=68444deb&is=6842fc6b&hm=86ad20d9e323d492319deb0e7e41179303df7e504cfec758156e0410e2b6ed1a&

[pale bridge]

Red means go pretty much, I've seen that episode of Top Gear when they're in Rome in the supercars

[pale bridge]

Silverstone

[pale bridge]

Let me play my tiny violin 🎻

[severe spindle]

Hehehe

[severe spindle]

Ferrari has scored a 1-2 podium at the 6 hours of Spa today

The Ferrari hypercar is crazy fast

[severe spindle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/D13lU6lOgnk?si=wkp6Xd3qpUBhSbB5

I'm surprised duolingo is such a F1 fan

[severe spindle]

Hey guys, I was curious about someone on the current F1 grid

Oliver Bearman
I know he used to race for Ferrari, is a test driver for them
And he races in HAAS with some decent level of showing given he's a rookie
But how good is he actually?

You think he could do as well as some of the other Rookies on the Grid should he be given a better car?

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he was neck a neck with antonelli in f2 and they were teammates, also a lot of people rate him as the rookie of the year

[granite tangle]

i mean hes doing as well as he physically can, antonelli has hit heigher highs (tho hes on a mercedes) but you could say antonelli has had some races where he hit a lower floor than ollie has

the only rookie that cant be rated is bortoletto, the only fair comparison you can make about him is with his teammate, as the sauber has been (apart from the miracle P5 last week) significantly worse than any other car on the grid

[severe spindle]

I mean the last 3 races Antonelli hasn't finished any
Not his fault, but it still has an effect

[severe spindle]

I think Bortoletto can do better with better machinary as well, but who knows

[severe spindle]

I think Antonelli is still seen as the rookie of the year
But I frankly think Bearman is doing better considering the compromises he's having to put up with
The fact that he managed to keep racing and correct himself after Lawson's attempts at murder agasint him in Spanish GP, I honestly gained a big boost of respect for Oliver

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https://x.com/CadillacF1_/status/1931391911849283899

Cadillac F1 Team News (@CadillacF1_)

If Valterri Bottas is chosen to drive for cadillac he will serve a 5-place grid penalty in his first race.
#Cadillacf1team #CanadianGP

X · Jun 7, 2025, 4:44 PM

[severe spindle]

Wait, what?

I did hear somethings about Bottas being considered for Cadillac

Along with Perez and Mick

[glacial pine]

This is formula e level shenanigans

[granite tangle]

yeah thats in case he finds a home for next season, or whenever he drives again in F1, he will have to serve a penalty he got in his last race

weird that they dont expire XD

[severe spindle]

It sure is shocking indeed

[pale tinsel]

Jenson Button still has to serve a penalty from Monaco 2017

[severe spindle]

I am finding even more cancer to annoy me

[granite tangle]

https://x.com/eruptichd/status/1931316633244488179?s=46

Eruptic (@ErupticHD)

Alonso after going around the outside of Verstappen cause he has a wife and 2 kids at home

X · Jun 7, 2025, 11:45 AM

[severe spindle]

Pffft

Sometimes it doesn;t work out