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severe spindle
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You have some strong opinions about them

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here's hoping

pale bridge
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Palou is such an NPC, if he'd been a good boy and not axed that McLaren contract, IndyCar wouldn't be the dull mess it is now, and they say they're not "stuck in the 90s"

glacial pine
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They're gonna want an American... But who? I don't follow anything American to even guess

pale bridge
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If I had IndyCar drivers in my consideration list of who should drive for Cadillac, Palou wouldn't be on it, there's lots of drivers who are bigger priorities to me than Palou

granite tangle
glacial pine
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Oh my god I forgot Logan

severe spindle
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I wonder if he'll return

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Piece gasleeeeeeeeey

strong kite
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Piss gassy

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Gasly is too busy glazing his team and running into the back of his former teammate, his credibility is in shreds, that Gasly we saw win Monza 2020 isn't there anymore

strong kite
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Pee air gassy

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Meanwhile Colapinto is going nowhere fast, and trashing the car again, the repair bills are going to be literal phone numbers

glacial pine
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Missed this move on TV

granite tangle
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he is PISSED PISSED

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I’d be too if I was stuck behind Albon for 50 laps but holy

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@pale tinsel YOU NEED TO SEE THIS

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HAHAHAHAHA

pale tinsel
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Already have seen lmao

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Christ

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Chicken Little lookalike Tom Bellingham believes it's "time we let go of Monaco", F1 isn't abandoning Monaco anytime soon
And F1 won't go back to overrated tracks like Hockenheim or Sepang
You can't call yourself a "traditionalist" and want Monaco out

glacial pine
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Formula E loves a well timed tweet

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Their secret is small cars with complicated braking, long braking zones, and easy mistakes to make on corner exit

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I hope F1 never abandons Monaco, It's too amazing watching the fastest cars around such a tiny course

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Controversially and I'm not just saying it because Palou won, Indy was worse this year than Monaco, if lapping backmarkers was awful in Monaco, it was a joke in Indy

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pale tinsel
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that's my 7 time wdc

glacial pine
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Get in there lewis

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severe spindle
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Damn, he is going all in.

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I mean I don't expect the F1 World Champions to not be popular with the ladies, but it is always a surprise whenever I see someone I see regularly on media, and kind of look up to, show these sorts of behvaiors.

glacial pine
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Lewis has a guest rap verse about making that thang rain and laying pipe

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Really? Damn, I guess he was always well into that scene.

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I mean, I assume most of the drivers are, bar some of them which appear to be too shy for it.

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Such as Charles Leclerc. But then again, I don't pry into their personal lives.

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I don't know them personally.

glacial pine
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I found it. It is also really bad

severe spindle
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Yeah I didn't have much of an expectation.

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Someone once said something which seemed rather funny, and true.

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They said "Daniel Riccardo is a short person that looks like a tall person, while Charles Leclerc is a tall person that looks like a short person."

lofty mirage
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Hamilton sang in this

severe spindle
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It certainly was a surprise.

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To learn about this.

pale bridge
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I've known this for forever

severe spindle
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Good for you.

pale tinsel
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@granite tangle, got some news for you

granite tangle
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😭

pale tinsel
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I'm not having that

severe spindle
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I mean first Newey for Aston, and now Horner for Ferrari? Redbull may as well close shop at that point.

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Not to mention Verstappen planned for Aston or AMG for 2027.

granite tangle
lofty mirage
severe spindle
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THis artist has a pretty adorable artstyle.

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Mercedes doesn't have scissors and glue lmao

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granite tangle
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this spawned on my feed

pale bridge
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Gasly is blaming Tsunoda for their clash in Monaco, the delusion is massive from him

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granite tangle
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gasly had a brake failure but its still his fault

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granite tangle
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can tsunoda as the car ahead guess that the car behind is gonna come flying to his rear right?

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oh gasly is blaming yuki?

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what?

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link it

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i cant believe it

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glacial pine
pale tinsel
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good god these guys are boring

glacial pine
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I like that, but they should've painted the whole car

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Same with their Vegas livery that it was IMPOSSIBLE to find pictures of

pale tinsel
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Palou says he's "perfect where he is", good! We don't need him in F1 anyways and besides he's not the "best in the world", 3 IndyCar titles and an Indy 500 win mean nothing to most of the F1 grid

glacial pine
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Motorsports is so tricky to nail cross pollination. Even the subtle differences between series can make it break drivers as they move between them

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Maybe the best F1 WDC we never saw had their career peak in Mazda MX5 Cup Thailand or something

strong kite
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the goat prince bira

glacial pine
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Bira raced in F1

strong kite
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yeah well you mentioned thailand so i made the joke

glacial pine
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Maybe the 2022 regs changes would have catapulted him to 3 championships... We will never know

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he was the prince of his country but never got to see it develop a place in motorsports

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tragicwaltWtf

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You can't be a racing driver if you don't make great expenses

granite tangle
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What's so funny about it

granite tangle
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Really? Pfft

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That's infringing on their rights

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yeah literally copied last year's mercedes design down to every detail, with a mercedes power unit

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everyone called it the pink mercedes

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and for a midfield team it was quite abnormally fast

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Quite odd

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I suppose its one of those rather funny bits of f1 history

granite tangle
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perez went from 17th to 1st in this car in sakhir to get his maiden win

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he had an amazing drive but it really showed that this car was fucking fast

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Impressive drive honestiy

granite tangle
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the european mind cannot comprehend this photo

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These pictures are so cool

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I will say

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I don't quite understand one thing

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Why do F1 cars need to be so big for safety reasons

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When the Indycars can achieve higher speeds, yet are smaller

glacial pine
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F1 tracks can create far steeper angles of impact. Indycar crashes usually hit walls and scrape along for aaaaaages, but in F1 there's more opportunity for hitting barriers head on at 160mph

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At least the ovals.

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Indycar road courses.... They are scary

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Thats what I'm saying

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The road courses rhat indy cars race at are pretty scary too

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Infact, even tighter than F1 courses

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Which is why the excuse for size doesn't make a whole lot of sense

glacial pine
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So, there's an aspect of F1 cars being so large because more size is more aerodynamic surface area as well

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If that's the actual reason, then I'd be more inclined to believe

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Because rhats completely valid

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Much more than any actual safety reason

glacial pine
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Lots of different reasons.

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Also the FIA just decides on minimum and maximum heights lengths and widths, to achieve what they want out of a regulation change.

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Regardless, it doesn't matter too much
They'll just make racing the way they do anyway

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Not like older cars being smaller really made any difference

glacial pine
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They keep trying, and succeeding, in making it better.

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They couldn't overtake at monaco before, they can't do it now

glacial pine
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The last two regs changes had a big focus on reducing aero turbulence behind a car and we've seen a LOT more lap long side by side battles.
F1 cars have been too big for Monaco since 1970 it's totally irrelevant.

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glacial pine
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It has always been an exceptional formula E tracks it just took 80 years for those cars to get there.

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Hrhe

glacial pine
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More horsepower from the electric motor but not a bigger enough battery to make that work for high speed tracks...

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2026 regs are kind of confusing at the moment
On paper they don't seem to state directly whether if they'll be faster or slower

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But I assume the first year will have teething problems

glacial pine
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Possibly, at least at the start

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I don't even see why F1 cars of all things should be hybrids

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The FIA won't particularly care about making the cars faster for the sake of it. They'll want to be the fastest race cars in the world, but there's nothing to be gained by being 10 seconds a lap faster instead of 2, than the next fastest car. So they want to make them spectacular to watch as sporting race cars, to show off the race craft and skill. And they will add goofy gimmicks to try and make it happen.

Hybrid power made F1 cars harder to drive, added a new strategic race craft toy AND made them faster., and they don't have to stop to refuel anymore. There's not really much of a negative to the hybridisation

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I don't see any real positives either

glacial pine
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I just listed 3

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It's not the refuels ever took away from the cars

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The sound are considerably worse

glacial pine
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They sat in the pit box for 25 seconds at a time it was boooorrriiiingggg

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That's their problem

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It needed solving

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Not being changed entirely

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But personally

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I couldn't care less what they use

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They all sound and go the same anyway

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At over 10k RPM even a 2 cylinder sounds the same as a 16 cylinder

glacial pine
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That brief honda engine doing cylinder shut off during breaking. Oh my god the sound was wild.

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There was an echo of V10 thunder you could hear when those cars were racing it was beyond belief

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Its mostly just the fact that I associate hybrid with boring

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But that's personal issues

glacial pine
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Well that was also something F1 tried to solve. "Look here's a whole other toy to play with in your car"

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glacial pine
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I think they should have seriously looked into that. People who go to the V10 races really enjoyed that incredible sound. The volume of it, the distance it could travel and bounce back from was crazy

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I heard some fly by shots of the V10s in Assetto Corsa, and it wasn't sounding like a car

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It sounded like an actual screech

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Almost scary honestly

glacial pine
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Oh go find some footage. I dunno if any game can capture the way it would echo back into camera mics from the nearest couple of mountains.

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glacial pine
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Corvette E Ray?

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Bigger than V8s I mean

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V10s and V12s and such

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Engine typed that are nearly extinct

glacial pine
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I'm sure Lamborghini did this

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The world has the technology

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Have they?

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I don't know any instance of this with Lamborghini

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I mean the Ruevelto technology

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It has some hybrid

glacial pine
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Wasn't the Sian an Aventador derived hybrid too?

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The Ruevelto does however

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This is thr clip by thr way

glacial pine
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That arrows sounded scary

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strong kite
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Jaguar had one of the best F1 liveries

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Fight me

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The Revuelto, I think the Sian was a hybrid but idk

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Remember when jaguar lost those diamonds at Monaco?

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I keep hearing it

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I guess green white and red just make good racing liveries in general

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They put some extraordinary diamonds on the nose of their cars for Monaco, crashed, and nobody ever found the diamond... It wasnt even a crazy crash, the rock definitely survived but nobody ever admitted they found it. There's a theory it was an insurance scam, that the diamonds on the cars were fake and they'd just claim they went missing regardless

severe spindle
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What the hell

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Why would they put diamonds in a F1 car lol

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That's quite a silly tale

glacial pine
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Monaco Vibes Baby

severe spindle
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Yeah but not in a F1 car

glacial pine
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It's glitzy, it's glam, and nobody was going to look at the slow as balls jags otherwise

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I mean I suppose but it's stil such a silly thing to do

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Oh absolutely

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Silly Ford and Jaugar. Like you said, might have been an insurance scam. Its hard ro say
It's the weirdest thing ever and the crash itself was easily avoidable

glacial pine
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But so was budgeting your team for 20 million dollars from a man with a giant beard who DOESN'T have a big energy drink factory you can visit but he swears it totally exists

severe spindle
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Christ..

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Jaguar years were rougher than I thought

glacial pine
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Oh that was Haas

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Oh wait lol

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Right that's what Gene Hass did

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My other favourite is how Daniel Abt got fired from the Abt formula E team

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I swear to god, Haas won't make 2026 at this rate

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They have the worst sponsors ever

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Thr worst owner ever

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they should get fahim to sponsor them

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All their drivers wreck.their cars every race

severe spindle
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I love the white and red color of Haas, but they really need some actual brains behind their staff for once

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Not unreliable sponsors and a cheapskate of a boss

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And a team chief who's only known for breakdowns and swearing on DTS

glacial pine
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Oh Gunther left

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I know

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He was the only thing notable about Haas

glacial pine
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He's doing stand up comedy tour these days

severe spindle
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And he isn't even there anymore

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Haas is basically the Minardi of now

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A team whose existence on the grid makes you wonder why they're even bothering

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He never seemed like had any idea what he was doing as team chief

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glacial pine
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Do it

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It'll be named Tweetman Momeni Formula E team
I'm the team, you're the title sponsor xd

glacial pine
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There's been some really weird ones

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Can't I also drive too?

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Hell yeah

glacial pine
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I've got £30 going spare to fund it with, and I just finished building my solar panel project so we won't pay for charging

severe spindle
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We'll be the drivers

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That's already more budget than any of the other teams

glacial pine
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So true

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Hehehe

glacial pine
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Back when NIO 333 raced even the journalists were worried they'd get drafted in as race engineers

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Pffft

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That's just priceless

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nissan should hire blackpanthaa to drive for their formula e teamtheoTrol

glacial pine
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Nissan Leaf company car hell yeah

severe spindle
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You'll be number 277 and I'll be number 24
And for livery we'll do something nice

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I always quite liked old Jordan liveries

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So why not something in homage to them

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Do not tempt me

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I want to

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As a matter of fact even
There's the new Micra
Mix the Renaulr 5 together and we can make a 5/Micra Cup event

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That'll be rhe support series for Formula E

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Now we're thinking like proper businessmen

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And a racing team

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Let me spend this summer trying to build a track day hill climb lead and I'll get back to you

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But I'm going to sleep first 💤

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Hahaha, that's gonna be ehe perfect testing ground

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Have a goodnight

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You folks too

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Pffft

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Looking into some history of F1 media

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It seems like F1 used to be much more.. shall we say hateful in its presentation

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Like I don't know how true it all was
But apparently in the Spanish GP, all of Spain threw racist remarks at Hamilton for beating his Spanish teammate
And in Silverstone, all of Britain threw racist remarks at Alonso for beating his British teammate.

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Or how Schumacher was demonized on British broadcast in his earlier years.

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F1 drama certainly is not small whatosever.

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im not sorry at all

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but i love this kid

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To be honest, I felt bad for Bortoleto

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I don't know if Kimi was actually being an ass

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But Bortoleto was the only one with a legi overtake in the race

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Only to be pushed into the wall by Kimi

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Ever since he was a young kart driver

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A shame honestly

granite tangle
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I personally never understood this sort of behvaior

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both were and werent at fault

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I mean I grew up in a world where a black man was racing and winning nearly every F1 race there was, and a black man was the president of the United states of America
It never made sense why are some discriminatory in that category

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you could say "why would kimi back off and let him pass" and "gabi should know that kimi isnt gonna let him through" while kimi pushing him off could be true as well

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circuit is fucked, cars are too big for it

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Completely true

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I understand why Kimi would do what he did

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he wasn't breaking any rules as far as I know

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But I still wish he'd let Bortoleto keep that position

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God bless Sauber, I really wanna see them have at least one WCC

granite tangle
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yeah its unfortunate

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They've been at this sport for too long to not have more than just 1 race win

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gabi is also unlucky to be in sauber, tho i guess he is lucky because at least hes on a multi year contract so he'll carry over to audi

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bortoletto was the F2 champion after all

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yeah that's something I wondered actually, whether if Hulkinberg and Bortoleo would carry over to Audi when the rebrand happens

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they are both carrying over

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their signings were made with audi in mind

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thats why bottas lost his seat

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Fair enough, guess this was long in the works afterall

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audi wanted a pair of one experienced driver and a promising young talent i guess

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Hey Bottas is pretty promising

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promising i dont know

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hes a veteran

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Not to mention, became an internet personality with his time at Sauber

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He easily was Sauber's most vital internet personality

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The only reason anyone even cared about Kick sauber

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bottas was great for marketing but i would guess signing hulk was much cheaper

severe spindle
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They could have just kept him as a reserve driver

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But I guess mercedes does that now

granite tangle
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they could but mercedes sniped him

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And Ferrari sniped Zhou

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Quite interesting how things work in F1

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well with zhou even tho hes a nice guy its different

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ferrari got zhou because he brings a shitton of china money

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Really? That was the reasn? Damn..

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mercedes got bottas because he is experienced with the team and mechanics and can help develop the car

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Of course

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Plus him going away from Mercedes wasn't a choice they were happy about in the first place

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I am sure Toto right now is very much doubting his choice about Kimi

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Insanity

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yeah the most notable and notorious thing was people in the spanish crowd painted their faces black and held up a sign that said "Hamilton's family"

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Sad state of affairs ngl

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I understand Hamilton is the first major black F1 driver to be driving at such a league

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Hence some animosity is expected from a sport this set in stone

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But like.. damn

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I expected it to be just shouting hurtful remarks

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Than going full on Black face

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In the year 2007 of all things

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I can see why sometimes governments arrest sports fans
They are too emotional

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i mean in the year 2021 we had good old Nelson come out and say some things XD

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What was that?

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hamilton put verstappen into the wall at 55G that year in silverstone

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Oh yeah I remeber that incident

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(and then Christian Horner sent someone on a full simulation test day to try and make the FIA believe it was deliberate and premeditated)

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It was really brutal crash

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Nelson Piquet (his daughter is engaged to Max obviously) proceeded to call lewis an equivalent of "that n-word" instead of using his name in a portuguese interview

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Piquet is just a cunt generally

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Damn, that is messed up

glacial pine
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Didn't even want go to London to watch his son win the formula e championship

severe spindle
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I mean I get it, he was mad about the incidents
Becoming emotional is expected
but people who act like this, are usually like this even when stuff like this don't happen

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Nelson is a legend of the sport in track but outside of it he aint so nice

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it is what it is though

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if FIA is fine with him just getting a 1million$ fine then who am i to know better right

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Like hamilton is said to be a rather cold person to speak with

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Or Schumacher was sometimes described as "a real scumbag"

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But even still, I really expect better standards

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When people like Hakkinen, Piastri or Jim Clark exist or existed, I really don't think of having higher expectations of your sports idols to be a false thing

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Piastri? I've never seen that man say or do anything

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He just seems to turn up, win stuff, be unstressed, say thank you McLaren and off he goes

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It's amazing

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He is top class

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Same with the other two

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On or off the track, they're top class

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Plus he gets along with everyone

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Or at least makes an attempt

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I'm pretty sure Hamilton has never had a real friend in F1
Whether be it due to his racial situation or his own personality

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Regardless, no real hate is intended. God knows the only reason anyone actually watches F1 is for irregulaties

glacial pine
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He and Nico Rosberg were great friends for a very long time

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I heard they had a fallout. I hope it's not true.

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Well 2016 broke that friendship. Teammates, a dominant car, and two drivers that did EVERYTHING to beat the other to the championship

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But it wasn't like, rudeness or hatred it was being total rivals

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It's still a shame honestly

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I hate it when teammates have to battle like that

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Just breaks the whole concept of a team

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@granite tangle

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of course he has

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dictactor pig

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you know?

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i like it

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shame it's alpine

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I love it actually

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I don't know if it's a homage to any previous look of Alpine/Renault
But it looks awesome

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It's interesting, every race there seems to be at least one team changing their car's livery in homage

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or some other reason

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Ferrari and RB broke out new liveries for Miami
Mclaren had a slightly different livery for Monaco, and Charles a different race suit
And now Alpine with this one for Spain

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Pfffft

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I swear to god

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I have never wanted to take my own brain out

glacial pine
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TBF white twinks can be very easy to mix up

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white twinks lol

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Goddamn it tweetman

glacial pine
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I could walk past Gabriel Bortoletto and my main thought would be "shouldnt he be in school today?"

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Kimi Antonelli too

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They're young no doubt

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But twinks is a matter else

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George Russell is definitely the alpha twink

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I'd say Russel has the most femboy voice of them all xd

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But he is quite cute with how polite he usually sounds

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glacial pine
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Vintage lotus I think. Niceee

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Much better than what I got

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Ironically another Lotus

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The walrus!

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Apparently it wasn't any good

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i cant complain i think

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I need a F1 game where I can make my own team and set of sponsors

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Too bad such a game doesn't exist

glacial pine
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Never forget him

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not the penis 😭

glacial pine
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Surprised no one blurred it out on TV at the time

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Pffft

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F1 designs can be so weird sometimes...

granite tangle
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Damn...

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Damn damn damn

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Poor kid

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Long story short

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Don't take F1 as a hobby

granite tangle
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Unless you always root for the winning team

granite tangle
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That’s insane

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Holy crap

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Thats insane...

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Omg GT7 car

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GT7 has this? nice

glacial pine
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It's so happy to go sideways everywhere

strong kite
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Yeah as of November

severe spindle
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That's rather cool

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Classic F1 cars are always quite cool

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I'ts crazy that it used to be so much easier to make F1 cars

glacial pine
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I dunno if it was ever easier, they were still cutting edge

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All it essentially meant twas getting thinner tires, removing any fender and fitting a bigger engine

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You know, I wonder something

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How would a front engine modern F1 car be like

glacial pine
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The closest we ever got was the LMP1 Nissan GT-R (my beloved)

severe spindle
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That's true, that was one of the last Front engine LMP1 cars

glacial pine
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You gain a huge amount of volume at the back of the car to do aero with

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It was also even Front wheel drive

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This is what some made as an idea for a front engine indy car

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So I guess it is possible to do the same for F1 cars

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But with the current formula hinging so much on ground effect, and huge venturi tunnels, a front engine F1 car could be pretty brilliant

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It certainly would be, and it would also most likely be quite expensive to develop

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I guess the main problems youd have is all the regulations for aero size and shape would need torn up, and crash testing would be very different, youd need to keep the heaviest component from coming backward into the cabin in a crash

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It would also require a very different style of driving

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You'd be much more likely to see them kick the tail out, just so they can get a bit more rotation

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And in a situation like this, nearly any sort of crash would cause the engine to be damaged

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Which would rise the repair costs

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Interesting, that would still definitely favor the front wheels more than rear

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But I suppose it is at least something

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It's such an odd ball

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But honestly, I do like it

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Back when Nissan developed this, I dont think there was a minimum speed limit for the Hybrid systems, so it would have probably been closer to a normal 4WD hybrid out the corners, except with torque steer from gear changes instead of possibilities of oversteer.

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Most likely

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By the way, while looking for FR F1 concepts

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I came across many pictures like this

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I don't know if you notice any difference

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But that's a modern regulation F1 car without the Halo

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I don't think the Halo was even the biggest bother to me, in terms of how it affects these cars' design
But I don't think it's false to say either they do look a bit sleeker without them

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I like

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But it feels wrong

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I do too honestly, and it does indeed feel wrong somewhat

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Espedcially since the Halo has become so set in stone

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But I wouldn't mind it not being there either

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I get the safety gains from the halo and all, but I do think without it, these cars do look better

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They don't want another driver dying like Jules Bianchi

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In the period that the Halo has been used, it has proven very effective

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Ofc

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The halo saved many people

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Lewis Hamilton himself owes his life to it

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F1 safety is one of those things you can just never go back on

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I dont know who got the idea to create this but he is a genuis

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But let's be real

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This sport?
it was always intended purely for adrenaline junkies anyway

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So I don't think those who died wouldn't have wanted to die anyway

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As the materials technology moves on, you can use less material and pass the same tests 👍

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You know what I don't understand?

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They are going out of their way to make all these halos for the sake of safety

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But like... can't they just make the F1 cars closed cockpit?

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Like many fictional formula cars?

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Extraction times

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Extraction times?

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If you dont have a roof, you cant get caught under it

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Hypercars need really advnaced fire suppresion in the cockpits in case you cant get doors open easily when theres a fire. In F1 the drivers need to pass extraction testing, being able to undo their harnesses and crawl out fast enough

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Hmm..

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I suppose that's a fair argument

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They get an essential close cockpit frame with the halo

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but easier to get out of

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The main dangerout object to a driver is tires coming off at speed.

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Grosjean was saved by the halo and that was a weird edge case

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I don't know if the gains of Halo are truly established

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But I suppose it works

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It doesnt do nothing, thats for sure.

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I don't know how many cases of F1 drvers dying due to some debris off of the front car there are

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2012 Spa start also had a VERY near miss for Fernando Alonso that wouldnt have been as close with the Halo

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I didn't hear anything abou debris

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The big development after sennas death were the wheel tethers, that try to stop them flying off when theres a crash

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But i think it was the Bianchi incident that made using the halo an FIA goal. They also greatly changed the way safety cars and trackside vehicles interact as that was also part of that tragedy

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If you watch the extended Spanish GP highlights F1 just posted on youtube, you'll see a lot of CRAAAZZZYYYYYY usage of trackside machinery you'd NEVER see today under a simple yellow flag

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Exceptional racing that day

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I suppose it shows the significance of safety

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Above the cars' visual design

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I think the current regulations make the halo look much more natural than the previous regulations

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I'm sure the FIA wanted that. They got the halo on the cars as soon as it was ready, it was a bit weird visually

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There just can be no argument for safety, but one of the appeals of Motorsports has always been its high risk high reward nature. Not just in the field of F1, but every discipline

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Yeah, but the risk doesnt have to be injury. Making a split second mistake after weeks of practice and sim work, and ending up out of a race over nothing... Thats a good enough risk

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We saw it at monaco, for Gasly

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I suppose. The fact of the matter is, whether if death or simple DNF, the result ends up being the same for the race itself

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It's only how it is seen on the outside

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And it affects the bigger sphere

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I mean the famous Rush movie, with Nikki Lauda always going on about calculated risk

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Lauda was never a real driver, hence he was always so worried about risks

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But his peers weren't

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They kind of all accept, as do modern F1 drivers, that dying in this sport is sort of the highest honor you can achieve

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But of course, F1 isn't some fantasy or story we read on books

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It's reality, and these poeple are very real people with families and friends

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When Lauda was racing, the risk of death was FAR higher, so that affects who ends up turning up to compete. Jackie Stewart and Lauda were pretty pioneering in trying to reduce that risk

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We can romanticize the death of Senna or Clark or others as much as want, but the safety would always be a priorty in reality anyway

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Back then, death was much less significant

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especally in a sport that sold itself on its possibility of fatalities

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I think its more that dying in motorsports was less shocking, more expected

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It means the same as what I say

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But oh well

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Regardless, the safety advances of Formula 1, and Motorsports in general, go far beyond just the halo

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So even if it is removed, which is what most sim racers do when driving these cars for better visibility, it won't change much in reality

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The changes are much more than just this one thing

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what a smartass, but hilarious

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reminded me of alonso fighting the alpines

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https://x.com/SCUDERIAFEMBOY/status/1928487955351388300 @pale tinsel mate was like "what you want me to do? i have gasly, and an argentinian that doesnt know how to drive!"

nini (@SCUDERIAFEMBOY)

flavio briatore about max: “he’s phenomenal, the best driver we have at this moment. it’s clear. if you have a driver like verstappen, it makes your life much easier! if you don’t have him, your life is much more difficult. and we’re in the second part!”

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As I said

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Horner ain’t going anywhere

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A 5 time chess world champion has called F1 "boring"
A 5 time chess world champion

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Apparently both Max and Jos Verstapprn are trying to get WEC licenses. Max for Hypercar, Jos for GT

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For one its kind of ridiculous how one's wearing the jacket and shir and the other the pants

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But this was quite nice to watch

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I really hope Stroll achieves something one day

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I see alot of Senna and Hill with his relationship with Alonso

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I want stroll to win one wacky race

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OR to just randomly be faster than everyone for one race only. He was close in turkey 2020

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Indeed, that would be nice

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Shanghai Formula E in 8 hours anyone else tuning in?

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nah

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i gotta design an evo livery

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Not wanna take inspiration from any of the Evo 3s on track?

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I suppose I'll see if I can make it.

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I am sorry by the way.

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Woke up. Tuned in to formula e. Jaguar been hit by the curse

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One day something good will happen to Mitch Evans and Nick Cassidy

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Screaming at the TV that was absolutely insane

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I don't know about tomorrow

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If you get the chance definitely tune in! The Shanghai circuit is absolutely too large for the tiny FE car... but what that causes is going three wide into the tighter chicanes.

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Three wide? In open wheelers? Crazy

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I don't know If I'll make it

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I'm just in an unknownable state

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Hopefully will be able to watch once at least

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And not disappoint you

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Sorry for causing a scene

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How the hell Is that even.psisible

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I'm amazed

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The energy constraints. They do not have enough battery to run a race flat out. BUT unlike an ICE series doing this, the regen braking can scavenge a LOT of energy back into the battery, if you coast at high speed and avoid using the friction brakes. So every car ends up at a different point of wanting to save energy coasting and slipstreaming, wanting to build energy by using regen from high speeds, or spending energy to move forwards in the pack. The commentators compare the races where this happens to a cycling peloton, where every rider wants to conserve their energy unti they're ready to push flat out.

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Woah! Dunne has went from 19th to 2nd in the F2 Sprint, Chad!

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Also Rosberg has joined the Colapinto cult and is glazing him, and I'm not surprised like of course he would

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Why would Colapinto get glazed?

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When you get a driver you shouldn't swap it out before the season has barely even begun

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Redbull needs to hear the same lesson too

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Man, Alpine won't be making 2026 at this point

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De Meo continues to deny that the team "isn't for sale" which is exactly what you would say when the future of the team is in the septic tank

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"If I can't have it no one can" ahh

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I see Geely, Stellantis or Kia Hyundai buying the team from Renault

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I doubt Renault would allow it

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Especially since the Alpine branding is significant to their motorsports division

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yeah they'll sooner burn down formula 1 than let anyone buy their fuckup team

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oh how the mighty have fallen

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That's why they don't want it gone

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They have the new revision for Alpine road cars

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And their Hypercar

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THe name for the F1 team must also remain

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I know they can

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And that's what they want as well

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But I'm just ssaying, they won't wanna missi out on the publicity that F1 brings

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Well they'll lose the publicity

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I suppose it isn't the biggest loss, but Renault has been with F1 for a very long time

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THem being gone would be a bad sign

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Not like their current status is not a bad sign

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And to think they wanted Oscar Piastri to be their guinea pig

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"No thanks, I'm looking to win championships, not hold your dogwater team together with my two hands"

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It certainly would have turned differently if he joined them

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Like I love Oscar for all he does, but imagining what it would have been like if he joined Alpine instead of Mclaren, man the timeline that would be

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Do you what's even more ironic, Gasly was possibly considered as a replacement for Danny Ric for 2023 until they went for Oscar

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Really? Well that's an even bigger surprise

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The alternate reality where Piastri raced for Alpine and Gasley for Mclaren

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Pierre gassy

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It's fine, he's achieved decent success in his time for what it's worth

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Yeah but his career will always be defined by how his brief stint at Red Bull was

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It's just how luck would have it

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He wasn't the first, nor will he be the last, to have such a shakey career

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it's what makes F1 interesting to begin with

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Yeah but he decided to shove that down the sink by sticking by Alpine, his credibility sucks, his only loyalties are his girlfriend and his dog, he's not even loyal to Yuki anymore because he decided to blame him for driving into the back of him in Monaco

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Plus, whenever his time at Alpine may be up, he can just go and race for them in WEC

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They have decent success there

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I'm sure he was frustrated from elsewhere

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There's nothing I respect more than being loyal to your team

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And the fact that he's stuck with Alpine despite everything, is showing of his determination to win under their flag

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It's quite clear the Renault higher ups have brainwashed him

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Well, there's also another very apparent reason

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💵 money 💵

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These athletes at the end of the day are employees above everything

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and if no other team particularly wants him, and Alpine pays him welle nouygh, that's enouygh reason to stay

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HAHAHAHA

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He basically told palpatine to pay extra if he wants him to even consider alpine 😭

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Thank fuck that didn’t work

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In other news

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Max for the third time in a single year, defends the no2 driver by publicly announcing they are not the problem

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And for the 4th time the Red Bull higher ups (this time Christian Horner) came out in the same GP to say “x needs to step up, if he wants the seat next year”

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The team is gonna crash and burn overnight the moment verstappen quits on them

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Every second driver they've sat next to him has been a serious proven talent. Management is delulu

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Meanwhile according to the media

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What is HAPPENING

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In this team

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I mean it’s inside the team so no

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Oh, sorry I did not realize.

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It’s illegal if we are talking about betting services, not between 2 people I reckon

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This situation is strange.

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I have taken a look at the Qualifying results, and those who said Mclaren's pace is showing signs of drops, well weren't you thick.

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Rather funny that Hamilton qualified ahead of Leclerc for once.

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And Alonso is 10th, which is probably not even the position he'll finish by the end of the race.

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I do need to ask however how Sainz has managed to qualify worse than nearly everyone, especially since the Williams' car seemed rather up to pace.

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If I’m hadjar I’m staying with RB till any other team wants me

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If I’m Yuki I have Helmut on speed dial begging him to demote me

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Suffice to say, Redbull's reign is over.

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Also Alonso may be 10th but his lap was truly amazing, you can just see he is extracting everything from this Aston Martin

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Alonso put it on 5th, just didn’t have time for a second run in Q3 sadly

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I thought the Aston was supposed to be rapid now, given he qualified 5th in the last 2 races. I guess it's gone back to being a tractor again, and if his luck would have it, it'll break down and he'll DNF in lap 38 or something.

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And everyone went on to do a second round

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Of course with track evolution and all he got beat

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Some teams just are smart enough to swap the part out before it blows up mid race…

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Regardless, we all know Alonso ain't finishing in points

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Well what we have to understand is the engine inside the merc the Aston and the McLaren is the same

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If the qualifer is any indication, this'll be another 1 2 for Mclaren.

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So how come the merc and the Aston blew and the mclarens didn’t

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Well the answer is a competent garage

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That swaps parts out before they explode

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I have no idea.

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The devil inside me hopes to see a repeat of Turn 8 2016

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I assume Lando wants the WDC now.

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Lando was “supposedly” the no1 with the season starting

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Oscar obviously managed by mark webber won’t budge though

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Yeah he's very rapid thus far.

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Pfffft

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Lewis got a fucking ass whooping from Lauda for this ill never forget it

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That was a constant problem with Rosberg. He was an absolute asshole with his blocks.

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Yet he was the one man that beat Hamilton in equal machinery

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Boohoo

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He was also one of the least sportsman drivers

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I never liked him

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I bet he does not give a single fuck about that

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Like Alonso said
"You always have to leave a space"

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He’s a world champion, one of the hardest earned as well to beat Hamilton who literally WAS Mercedes in one

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Sounds like excuses to me

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Niki Lauda when both of them came back to the garage put it on Lewis because he was the one that could have avoided it

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Since when is Niki exactly the person of unknown wisdom lol

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Rosberg pushed Hamilton off the track

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Well he was the manager in Mercedes then

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That was what happened

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So he was the one dealing with anything drivers

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Yeah lol

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Respect to lauda, but I never take anything he says seriously

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For sure there isn’t a light fitted in f1 cars to indicate when they’re out of charge

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He's not a driver

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That seems like further reason to not turn in suddenly

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This wasn't a new thing with Rosberg

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He never understood leaving spaces

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It's like he's the only one on the track

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I mean I obviously know who Palpatine is I just don't know who you're calling Palpatine

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Oh yeah he's definitely Palpatine lmao

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Stroll is out of the race for tomorrow, something to do with his hands and wrists

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Damn

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Guess the others are moving up a position at least

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Hope he recovers

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Damn I hope he's okay. BUT who gets the drive tomorrow!?

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Imagine if they phone Nico Hulkenberg 🤣🤣🤣

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That would be pretty hilarious ngl

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Does Aston even have a reserve driver?

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I know Mercedes has Bottas and Ferrari has Zhou

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"For the 2025 Formula One season, Aston Martin's reserve driver is Felipe Drugovich"

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I am guessing he'll be driving Stroll's car

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I look forward to it, if I can even get to watch the bloody race

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Honestly, I'd say all's forgiven for this move alone

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You cannot sleep on a man who can make such an overtake on freaking Monaco of all places

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I do need to ask

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Is there any section on Monaco that you're allowed to DRS on?

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The straights seem too short for it

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I think there's some drs into turn one

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I suppose that makes sense, it's the only bit straight and long enough for it

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Also we finally got our first non-Porsche IMSA win this year in Detroit, it was MSR in the ARX-06

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Wlel done Acura

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I hoped we'd hear this

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Bruh Shanghai race 2 is 6am for me not 8. Roughh

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That's a shame

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Sorry

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I'll just be sleepy

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But maybe 2am qualifying I'll miss haha

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oh

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or not

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maybe they straight up arent allowed

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Bro is gonna be levitating on the podium

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Lance's retirement came too suddenly

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Couldnt prep the reserve driver in time

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I couldn't stop myself from laughing watching this

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toto is pookie

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except 2021 we broke up for a little bit back then 💔

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He's a horrifying man sometimes

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And then he's like this

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Not to mention, he's got the most German accent of all German accents

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If Aston can't get Stroll back in time, they'll have a problem for the next race I've just realised

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i like team principals that will do anything in their power to give their drivers even the smallest advantage

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toto and horner come to mind the most

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anyone rooting against their teams hates them for obvious reasons tho

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oh lemans

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close enough

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well might be time to give a certain mexican, german, or australian a call

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those 3 should be the most ready to hop in the car and probably would accept

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I didn't think it would become this busy

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apparently stroll has been dealing with wrist issues since miami

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even worse, since the start of 2023

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and it's only just caught up to him

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if he's off to surgery (possible since he had broken his wrists in the past) aston needs to find a 1 race replacement minimum

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Been thinking though. Maybe my spanish king really is washed, no points vs a guy that doesn't have working wrists

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true

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Would you drop le mans for an F1 debut?

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Look how good that was for Bearman

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bearman was in a ferrari

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Well the le mans race is important too

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big big difference

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drugovitch will ditch lemans to race in a tractor for the POSSIBILITY of scoring 1 or 2 points?

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Felipe will be having this conversation if it looks like Stroll is out for hte next race too

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so either they race with 2, or drugovich is their 3rd

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fernando has 0 points but is literally 9-0 to stroll over 1 lap

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you think hed lose to drugovitch in a car he doesnt even know

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Cadillac wont let that happen with two drivers.

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I'm pretty sure it's in the rules to have 3 drivers anyway

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I reckon daddy stroll will be on the phone to Checo Perez

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i don't know the ACO's regulations too well

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as i said

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a mexican, an australian and a german

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only 3 people in the world that would and could hop in the aston for 1 race

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and have something to prove

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Tbh, I think the Australian is pretty much done with f1

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German?

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Mick

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I'd ask Perez first

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He's been in that team

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Could see Bottas being loaned in for one race

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idk

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That'd be interesting

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bottas is a good, actually great shout

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mercedes would totally do it too

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they supply aston this year plus they have nothing to lose

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Can't see anyone else with a route in aside from VB or Checo

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plus Bottas is Australian

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obviously

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honourary XD

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If cadillac F1 get Perez in their car theyd LOVE to give him another weekend racing. Perez has won in the current regulation set and won for lawrence strolls team. If he's available there isn't a better driver

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and perez would like to solidify his seat too

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The current regulation set won't matter next season so that's a moot point

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ofc

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And Lawrence has dropped him once, he seems like the type of guy to not go back to old flames. like red bull not repromoting gasly or albon

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if that makes sense

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yeah but what do pirelli actually know

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Fucking hell he's been in the car for ten minutes

pale tinsel
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So was Doohan

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i told yall emperor palpatine dont play

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at this rate I'll be driving the Alpine by the end of the season

pale tinsel
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I love Big Flav man

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he got the check now hes looking for another one or someone that can drive

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but only for the last 300m of the race

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such a chaotic nutcase owner

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TP even

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Fuck it, bring back Nelson Piquet jr

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then he qualified like shit lmao

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@granite tangle they're fucking with him man

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theres just no way

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Good lord man

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Poor Tsunoda

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He's been played like a fiddle

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Almost like it's better to do your development with a driver that also did testing

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They literally do not see beyond Max

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super maxxx

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horrible start from russel man

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Dumbarses saying "it's another bottle from Lando"
Morons, he's lost 1 position

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lando and george were kinda caught napping in the start

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cost george way way more though

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Lap 4 and sky is already chatting about football

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sky sports cant concentrate on commentating unless mclaren is 1-2

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ten million times better

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croft is a loud mouth that gets nothing right

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f1tv crew at least have an idea about racing

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Sky F1 is more per month than F1 TV per year

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what else do they show on Sky F1?

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skyf1 is available for "free" and i still pay for f1tv instead

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i cannot stand croft, and dont get me started on danica patrick

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the sky f1 broadcast is martin brundle trying to keep croft from saying anything that is absolutely wrong when his feelings get hurt

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why bother, skyf1 isnt even available properly in my region, and compared to literally every other coverage f1tv is the cheapest

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I wish I could easily get F1 TV

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But at least the pirate streams are good haha

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Its best for me when my pirate stream is F1TV 🤣✌️

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anyone would rather not pay at all

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i cant tho cause pirating broadcasts comes with an absurd fine if they catch me

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rather keep my ass safe

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And it wasn't worth swapping Hamilton and Leclerc around because Leclerc isn't going anywhere fast

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Fernando WASHED mate

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leclerc was under a second behind hamilton and hamilton has dropped back 4

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3/6 seconds of the gap were for sure wasted waiting for the swap

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ferrari always swap them out too late

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lewis isnt washed but its a shit season hes having

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by next year when hes adjusted to the car then i expect from him

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this year not at all tho

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i think ferrari is working on a disasterclass this afternoon

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No that's Alpine

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Also people referring to George as "Woody" need to come up with better original terms because it's gotten ancient now

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When has anyone ever said that?

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yuki with the proper wing aint doing too bad

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liam torpedo lawson

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keeping the name alive

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tho the second one is 100% albon's fault

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oh williams ran out of front wings

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They said this track wouldn't suit them all weekend

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is liam lawson terrorising kids now 😭

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i need that replay

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ohhh torpedooo

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oh man sainz is having a stinker

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not what you want in your home gp

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Sauber will move ahead of Alpine if the race ended now

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"they're not going to be able to double stack" crofty confidently says as we watch them double stack

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that hard is gonna perform like shit

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Bye bye max

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i dont think he drops to leclerc no

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but its a useless pitstop

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Everyone behind on slightly used softs... Idk

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Lmao even Lewis calling out the safety car for wasting time

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oh that hard is trully terrible