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While Redbull captalized on it

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It really was an unfair advantage, it felt like the car Max was driving was a whole different division

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red bull brought 2 important upgrades

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1 is a real cooling duct that helped with tire wear significantly

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inspired by the Mclaren

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and the other is a new front wing that widened the setup margin significantly

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so its not that the car was faster, but now it can keep going fast for way way more laps

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Well, that does mean it is faster

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of course

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im not doomposting just explaining cause i watched a lot of content to understand it

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when a driver walks the walk and talks the talk, its one of my favorite things

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wether its michael flamboyantly drifting his car on the edge and setting records, or young alonso dancing on his car after the race

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its fucking nice to watch

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nono youre good

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Max is just really good, perhaps too good compared to the rest of the grid

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which is ironic, given as he wasn't always this up to pace

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https://x.com/maybezax/status/1925575563869040645

they put max with his sim racing buddy in the conference room today

G: I tried to ask Max but he never tells me!
M: If you tell me what you do I can tell you.
G: You can help me more.

M: I help you with sim driving. I put the banker lap and you spend 100 laps to beat it.

G: That’s not true I don’t spend 100 laps Only 50.

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But ever since having a good car, he's simply been unable of losing

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Not that I'm gonna miss Catalunya on the calendar or anything but can we talk about how Spain has 3 other Grade 1 certified tracks (including Jerez which actually has F1 history) and they instead decided to make another fucking street circuit

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excluding drivers who are already world champs like lewis, also think fernando could put up a fight even if hes 43

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its boring but its a circuit with a high variance of corners (low mid high speed) its historic and its beautiful

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the madrid street circuit they will run from next year looks like ass and its another street circuit

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offers nothing new compared to barcelona

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The corporate hospitality likes a street circuit because they're nearer the airport

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#bombjeddah

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#bombmiami

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and dont tell me miami isnt a street circuit its literally on a fucking parking lot

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If I wanted to see racing in the streets I could just wait til it's dark and see the local Civics

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he is like an unofficial team redline member

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And in truth, Charles can and does beat Max

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But Ferrari is jst too inconsistent with their car

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you would love 2022 first half mini

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Making Charles unable to be consistent as well

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charles was doing great

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then ferrari dropped the ball and never picked it up again to this day

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Ferrari has a tendenacy of doing great from the mid point of a season onwards

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once they finally start tuning the car

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and 2022 was the opposite somehow XD

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issue is, it's often too late to really secure points

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they started great and then downgraded

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for whatever the reason was

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ferrari no matter what place they are in WDC, they get the most money

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because of historic bonus teams get

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Really? Damn

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but ferrari is ferrari

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so they get 3x what williams does

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I know teams like Ferrari, Mclaren and Williams get Historic bonus
But that's crazy still

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I didn't think the difference was that vast

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also, there was a recent interesting news from F1 grid

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Apparently they were given a private inviation to all watch the new F1 movie

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But Max, Stroll and some others didn't show up

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people took most note of Max, given his lack of care for much outside of the racing scene

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red bull and mercedes were so high up because when you finish high for years in succession you get a bonus

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so they can max out the cost cap every year

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while smaller teams dont really go that far

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and they try to avoid as many expenses as possible

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whilst also relying on sponsors to provide money as well

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It's a shame that despite all the money spent, they still don't improve any bit

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And I did think Williams and Mclaren also got historic bonus

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ferrari gets a 5% of the total allocated prize pool

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and then the money is distributed

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the other teams just get a few million depending on seniority

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Well I mean, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here

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I think Ferrari deserves it

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oh for sure

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If not for them, F1 would simply not exist or be relevant

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cant imagine f1 without them

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they got the sport by the balls

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Indeed, and the fact that they have stuck around for as long as they have is a true testament

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And while they haven't had any WDC or WCC since 2007 and 2008, they had been winning those titles before many of these teams even came to exist

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f1 is one of the things that will keep ferrari afloat forever

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and thats a good thing

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So it's not really a slag agasint them to think their current performance is shameful

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It's true that tehy can do better, but I am happy just seeing the red open wheeler regardles

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yeah it just sucks for charles man

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Whether if it's driven by Prost, Mansell, Lauda, Alonso or anyone else

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i hope he doesnt stay crownless

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I think F1 needs some more REALLY culturally distinct teams, like Ferrari

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Someone else who isn't just based in the same but if England as everyone else

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If it were up to me, I would be happier if we'd have a different WDC every year like back then
Rather than back to back streaks

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yeah would be nice if fewer English teams were competing

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because they share very little in terms of assets, engineers and tech

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the issue with that was of course that they midfield and backmarkers were really really bad in comparison

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f1 is aspiring for closer racing but the negative is that the team that has a slight edge on the regulations can go for a wdc winstreak

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That is true, and I understsnd the current regulations make the teams much clsoer
The gap between the worst and best team is much smallee rthan say the 1991 Life and Ferrari cars

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yeah its just which evil they choose really

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It makes their one or two wins actually meaningful

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until you turn it into a spec series and f1 loses its character of being a showcase of engineering ingenuity

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so thats not ideal either

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F1 is an imperfect sport by design

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and so are similar Motorsports of this sort of nature

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Look at the golden age of Super touring BTCC

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Renaults were dominating

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And peugeots were complete backmarkers

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i promise you

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XD

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I want the cake and to eat it too

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i dont know man i think its still gimmicky

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and dont most drivers still only do the 2 mandatory times and not any more?

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Formula E has certainly improved a decent bit since its inception

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With the cars becoming faster and more refined, to more teams becoming interested

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And hell, becoming a 2nd home for many teams which didn't make it in F1

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Like Jaguar, Maserati

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Man.. still wanna see Maserati back in F1 to some degree, even if just as a livery homage

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Maserati were king of racing in their day, they deserve better and greater
But I am fine with their current status as well

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They make race cars still, that's all that matters

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Qualifying last to winning? Christ, that splits a big difference

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With Alpine? Is this real or fake

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I don’t even know anymore

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Big Flav's at it again, he saw this and had enough

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This alpine team is onto nothing

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i love that italian criminal man

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we need more flavio

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How the mighty have fallen

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Renault used to be so good in F1

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They were inded

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Though, honestly, given how it was only a few years, I assume they were mostly struggling rather than doing well

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Renault isn't short on Formula series, given as they run their own spec open Wheel series and even the World series cars

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WSR?

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iirc that died

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Really? I did wonder if it was still aroudn actually

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What was the unique thing about WSR?

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yeah its all FRECA now

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Were the cars on par with Formula 3 cars?

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F4 more like

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just powered by renault really

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renault dropped their support for it in 2016

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so it becaume formula v8 3.5

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So that's what has replaced WSR for now?

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Formula V8 3.5?

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FRECA

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freaka

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Formula Regional European Championship by Alpine

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Interesting.. Thank you for clarifying

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I hope to learn more amd more racing series

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Vallteri Bottas has an amazing voice and accent

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People make some really cool designs and concepts with these F1 games and their livery modding

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Apparently Maserati at some point were considering a return to Formula 1

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Even reading some sites about some rumors about them being stated in 2025

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I don't think they'll actually be making a full blown new factory team however, but I fully can see them either partnering with or buying out HAAS

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it would be just like what Mercedes did. Had a very old factory team effort way back then, but wouldn't return as a full team until taking over BRAWN team

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Maserati could potentially do the same, if their funds allow

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There are even some concept liveries for that very idea

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Hmm, another idea for F1 Manager 24 me thinks

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I'll have a play around

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# pale tinsel I'll have a play around

Would be quite cool honestly. You think I should try one of these F1 manager games? What do you exactly do in them? I am curious but I don't know too muc about them

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have a look

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I wanna play a F1 manager game

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I don't know if I can run any of the recent games however

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Maybe F1 Manager 1999?

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to be honest, manager 24 doesn't take much to run i think

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it can even run on a nintendo switch

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The problem is, my system probably meets the requirement

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but most modern games require DirectX11 and above

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and I sadly can't get better DirectX

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I guess I'll take a look

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I genuinely wanna play some F1 game, be it recent or old

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I even looked into the F1 challenge VB mod which basically has every car since F1 inception until 2021

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But that game is like 200 GBs

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hahaha

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Okay that's pretty funny

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Drive? if you can emulate ps3
nothing will ever beat F1 Championship Edition
Management? either F1 Manager 24 or Motorsport Manager if you want a more challenging one

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though i haven't played motorsport manager much

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Right then guys it's PSL here and I'm here for the sixth episode in my series on Grand Prix Manager 2, set in the 1996 F1 season. This episode covers two of the final four grand prix this season, but how will the championship shape up with it coming to an end?

The 1996 mod: http://www.gpracegames.com/grand-prix-manager-2/mods/1996-mod/

Signing...

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its a mid 90s release so it should easily run and its been well regarded

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2 has good mod support if thats what you're interested in

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I’d say emulating PS3 is way harder than running F1 13

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Problem with F1 game is I don't know whether to prioritize seasons because of the cars I like and drivers I like
or actual game features

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I downloaded 2020 to drive F1 cars and found myself playing the career of a full F2 Season

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I of course wanna have fun first

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Hmm..

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This sure is a headache

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Grand Prix Legends already has a legendary status among racing games, let alone F1 racing games! From mods to incredible physics, it's got it all.

But is it the best ever?

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So it focuses on the old F1?

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yeah, but mod support again is pretty good

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That's fine

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I’ll tell you a real hard f1 game

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But I hear good mod support for F1 99-02 as well

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The OG Mafia

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Oh yeah

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I've heard about that one race and the race mini game mode

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They made it easier in the remake/remaster

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Because people were crying

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Sad world

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Yeah I heard about it

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I imagine it did have to do with the fact that mafia was a racing game disguised as something else

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It was much more complex than anyone had expected

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Exactly

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Mafia was one of the few games to have wheel support

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But why would a Mafia game have wheel support

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Well because it was a Driving game first and foremost but people didn’t quite get that

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it didn't help that the pc inputs made the mode harder

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Of course, when the cars are so precise, it becomes hard to play on keyboard

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So yeah, F1 99-02, do you recommend or should I look elsehwere?

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Look at some of these other games you posted above

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F1 2013
Grand Prix Manager 2
Grand Prix Legends

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F1 2013
GPL
GPM2

in that order. i figure you'd prefer the driving side more than management so go that way. 2013 has an easier point of entry so you can get used to driving formula cars (plus there's classics in that game too)

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Damn, this game has impressive graphics

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Thank you for your guidance

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I'll have my hands full at this rate

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I do twanna try making a team and seeing how I cna do

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Holy

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Holy shit

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That'd scary

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How did he manage to avoid hitting the barrier

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Mad skills

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@pale bridge jack is looking at the track smiling at colapinto being a whole second slower from P19 XD

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sky?

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I watch it on Sky but I haven't been watching

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poor thing

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croft called norris championship leader during fp1 💀

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they somehow always get something wrong

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couldnt bear with it i just subbed to f1tv

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I won't be able to watch the race

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Because I'll be at university when the race happens

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I remember having 2 plasic toys which were made in very close inspiration of these cars

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I think I still have them , but I'd have to look

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These 2 were essentially how I grew up to know F1 cars

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These shapes, these designs and patterns

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The Red Ferrari and the Silver Mclaren-Mercedes

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man charles in particular but the ferrari in general too was flying

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its looking very likely that he will manage to put it on pole

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How are Aston Martin doing thus far?

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Dont forget the silly dumb 2 pit stop gimmick theyre adding for this weekend

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Best to wait till the Quali simulations in FP3

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always

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but charles was setting purple sectors for half an hour straight almost

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I love seeing him go well in Monaco

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it isnt about the time that im looking in particular but about how much confidence he has in this circuit

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wont lie, absolutely jealous

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what a stunning car, and a literal perfect example at that

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alrighty

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@severe spindle i said I'd have an attempt

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I really like the design

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A mixture of the current and old Maserati race cars

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Pffft

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Those pants

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The drastic change between them and rhe shirt

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And the pink shoes

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Hamilton is so drippy

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Oh right they're pink

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I know Hamilton is a bit of a stylist

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But damn

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There's not much style here

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I like

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That coat pattern is making my eyes hurt

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His drip is blinding you

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That coat is fiyaahh

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You guys wouldn't know style if it slapped you in the face lol

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Neat Fanart from official Ferrari youtube channel

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If he wins, it will be significant
Of course, It won't mean anything given they're too down on points to recover for a WDC or WCC at this point

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huh, so it turns out ferrari are running 2024 spec wings in monaco

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I'm jumping aboard the delusion train now

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What is their plan

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Why would they run the previous year's wing

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Not to mention Russel

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Of course, it's never "never"

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but it does seem unlikely

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# severe spindle You say that, but the Mclarens and Verstappen are firmly at the front

There's something happening with Flexi wings in Spain, and then there's always the question of who stops developing their car first... If McLaren stops to focus on next year, but Ferrari, mercedes or red bull doesn't, the fastest car could be someone else's. Hell, Williams said they stopped developing this year's car in Australia and they get faster and faster

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I mean I suppose you're right, it's still rather too early to say for sure what will happen

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Maybe mclaren will suddenly become backmarkers again, maybe Ferrari will suddenly redeem themselves

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But like... I don't know man

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With Piastri making a 25 second gap to 2nd place in Miami, and Verstappen just completely flying in Imola

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This season feels like it'll be either Mclaren's or Redbull's again

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Aston Martin and Williams and Mercedes do seem to be on pace, with Russel, Albon and Alonso's performances. Antonelli as well

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But like.. I honestly don't know

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The race at Imola was so nonsense with how unbelievably quick the Redbull was

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Even Yuki managed to get into points, and his qualifer went about as badly as it could have

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Ferrari's practices went decently for Monaco, but all I can really see happening is Charles winning his home race and that's about it

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Hamilton has kind of been nowhere thus far

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if any other team wants a chance to win, they need to make very quick haste

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Red Bull are talking a big game about McLaren's pace being down to the Flexi wings that are being clamped down on in Spain. But red bull says a lot

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I think Lewis' style doesn't gel well with the ground effect formula of cars. I think Ricicardo had the same problem. But I'm no expert

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He seemed to be doing a bit better there

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I mean some said it was because the Ferrari car is just too different to the Mercedes car, and him having been far more used to Mercedes' engineering and work arounds

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Yeah and it didn't go too well either. But the early ground effect Mercedes struggled a LOT with the bouncing that really hurt everyones backs

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Somebody also said he doesn't speak a lick of Italian, and the Ferrari crew doesn't speak English

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So he is literally not heard

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The man was literally flying

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It's like he was driving an Formula 0 or something

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DNF'ing from a practise session your goat could never

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Pffft

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Stroll, I thought you were on your comeback arc

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Guess not

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Alonso's position is pretty embaressing as well

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Especially after a P5 for Imola

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Clearly the car ain't as good as it was in Imola anymore

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One thing whcih is kind of hard to tell with the F1 fandom is how they precieve things

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You have people like Stroll which are hated

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You have people like Latifi and Sargnet which are worse drivers, but loved

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You have Guenther Steiner, which seems to be more loved as a meme than an actual team principal

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I don't know what is serious and what isn't

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# severe spindle You have people like Stroll which are hated

Stroll is disliked cause he's a nepo baby, besides, he was kinda alright his first two seasons. even got a podium in baku in his first season. The hate was quietly and slowly bubbling up though, but ever since he joined what was then Racing Point in 2019 (he ousted Ocon who was liked then) and its pretty much an open secret he's got a guaranteed contract there, the hates just blown up. especially since he's been in the sport for 8 years now and has shown no signs of improvement. last year brazil comes to mind when he drove into the gravel and beached the car unnecessarily

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Regardless

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All of this only helps bring further confusion

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But I guess the whole money matter is what makes some characters more disliked than others

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I won't pretend to understand

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Colapinto wasn't even trying to go faster, in comes his cult calling "foul play" and "unfairness"

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is it?

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damn

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i never knew

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so literally half the car was latifi 😭

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because it had both sponsors

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shows how much he bankrolled them

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yeah

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now I'm gonna say something controversial

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anyway, watching q1 or

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Also dub for Sky for playing an advert for the Alpine A290 after both Alpines get eliminated out of Q1

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i quite liked this livery

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i still maintain monaco should be a sprint weekend

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oh yeah, massive downgrade on that

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but i quite liked the colours of that last rokit livery

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I'm on board the delusion train though

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fair but WHAT IF

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they win

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and you miss it

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I'll live lmao

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i can keep up with it on live commentary anyway

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finding a stream these days is a pain in the ass

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so you arent exactly skipping it are ya

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XD

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more like checking in every now and then

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put jason statham in the mix too

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cause someone is getting killed

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we could have had a good looking rokit livery smh. shame the companies a fraud

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I don't think big old riccardo adami would be able to fill hamiltons boots

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put him in a go kart

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GP driving with Max on comms?

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theyre getting a divorce in comms and GP is setting purples

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calling it

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Bono and Antonelli

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Bono will finally understand "my tires are gone" and Antonelli would just get distracted

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antonelli scrolling tiktok

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Gary Gannon and Lance Stroll
Garys an oldish man and Stroll is well...Stroll

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both mercs out

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ngl

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i might be on board with the delusion win for leclerc

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2024 spec wings are doing it

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now if they can bring over the rest of the 2024 car we might actually be onto something

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yaes, stream with picture in picture

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Interesting..

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man i really want yuki to do well

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man im fucking happy for ocon

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albon looks real comfy

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Both RBs out qualifying Tsunoda...

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The RBs in both Liam's and Isack's hands are really strong this weekend

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one can only hope for a customary norris lap 1 bottle

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its customary

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car sucks ass in low speed circuits

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ngl forgot it was a 2 stop mandatory race. might be worth watching

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They could finally get the double of Monaco and Indy

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Hmm

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i mean, in fairness pirelli hasn't known whats going on since 2013

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Man..

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I have a crazy theory

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You all know the beloved Holy trinty

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The Mclaren P1, Porsche 918 Spyder and the Ferrari LaFerrari

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You think Porsche was planning a comeback to F1?

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None of these brands competed in Endurance racing of high level at the time these were made bar Porsche's sporadic efforts

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And yet they're almost all making efforts for WEC

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Mclaren rumored to come for 2027

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These cars were all made as continuation to legacies which were all about road legal race cars

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Ferrari for their GTOs and F40s, Porsche for their GT1s and 959s, and Mclaren for their F1

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The P1, 918 and LaFerrari never got to be full fledge race cars

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But their legacy now lives on within the current WEC cars and their road car variants

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The Mclaren W1, the Ferrari F80 and the Porsche Mission R

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F1 isn't as significant anymore

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You either focus on F1, or WEC

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One brand does well in one, not both

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Alpine does well in WEC, not in F1
Same with Ferrari
Mclaren is dominating in F1, yet their WEC car is still not ready

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Endurance racing has entered a new golden era

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Where every brand which once partook before, can do it again

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Even Bugatti lmao

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Imagine if they came back to WEC

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Honestly, this is why I think the Bolide, the Valkryie and the AMG one were their own kind of holy trinity

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They were extreme track toys, by brands which used to be very big in racing back in their heyday

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And they are all potent for race car format

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The Valkryie has already made the transition, Buggati can do it with the Bolide too, or a car based on it

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The beautiful thing abotu WEC regulations is that their hand is open

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V8, V6, V12, Hybrid, Turbo, their choosing

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THat's an incredible pile up

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Does every F1 team also have a F2 division

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The front car looks like a Redbull
The car behind look like Williams and Sauber
The orange crashed one looks like Mclaren
There's a red and ipink on there back there, signifying Ferrari and either Alpine or RB

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BUT Red Bull sometimes has a few drivers scattered across different F2 teams, so the red bull liveries dont all race for the same team

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It's fun and wacky

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no heroics into saint devote

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People calling Dunne to be banned for a race weekend is a step too far

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It makes it easier for Drivers to climb the steps from F2 to F1

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And have a more assured garantuee of who they race for when they do graduate F2

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Also no one outside of maybe his fanbase actually supports Victor Martins realistically, he's just a driver that just exists, he might be an F3 champion but he's one who's failed in F2, regardless of what "luck" he doesn't have

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Well, sometimes you don't make it to higher levels

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That can't be denied

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It’s fun and gives many different variants of cars it’s great

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never forget the goat

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Or are they the same sort of team construction deal?

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This as close as it gets

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kinda

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Fair enough

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So maybe a bit of a half anf half

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Like Formula E

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Fair, so it's kind of like Formula E

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But less freedom

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Twitter stewards are so stupid, they think Dunne "deserves" a race ban when Martins should take responsibility as well, he's too clapped out to be in F2 anymore, typical 3rd season driver, always busy going nowhere fast, I mean Maini and Crawford have done better and they're also in their 3rd season
Martins is too crap for F1, it's either Formula E or IndyCar for him next

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gabi out

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damn

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thats gonna be an sc

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lucky bastard he's out

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lap 1 pit for gasly and yuki

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and a vsc

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lucky sods

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ollie shafted by haas

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and we nearly got that lando bottle smh

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oof, gabi did a good overtake on antonelli too

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shame

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Why is Verstappen is complaining about Oscar swerving to avoid the remains of Gasly's front wing

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because he's max verstappen

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oh no

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ferrari

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the bottle

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its coming out

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no its actually looking good for them

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Yeah I take it back

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Hadjar doing bits though

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the red bull bottle is coming though

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basically only car to have 2 pits left

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did christian horny forget

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the mercs haven't pit yet

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so they're fucked

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they're already 2 pits behind

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they were kinda irrelevant anyway

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unless they did a lap 1 stunt

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bearmans got work to do speaking of lap 1 stunts

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usual aston martin strategy also needs to be talked about

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acting like theyre red and their name is ferrari the way they let hamilton overcut both them and hadjar

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the aston bottle masterclass

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verstappen is building that gap by the looks of it

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he caught bearman stroll

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though

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its fucked

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oh yeah its fucked

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bearmans done his stops, think stroll has 1 left?

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2 williams and 2 mercs aside from verstappen yet to pit

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must have forgotten about the rule

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or really hoping for the safety car

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did toto tell russel to pull an osama

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in a clever way

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straight terrorism

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😭

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yeah george you go worst case you both crash and kimi is through

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well..not sure about the straight part

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not a bad shout

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Osama Bin Russell the sleeper agent, toto activates him with shirtless pic opportunities

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only hope for max is for colapinto to do what he does best

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I think verstappens got the gap you know, if red bull can pull a decent stop

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otherwise its just fucked

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our pitstops

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no wait nvm, just seen he's stuck

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this year

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yeah dunno whats happened to you lot your boys have gotten lazy

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Forgot Gasly nearly took Colapinto out when he crashed into Yuki

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Alright here we go

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now that newey is gone the horniness might be out of control

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Ahh its fucked

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piastri is miles ahead

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the horndog is out

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ooo cheeky attempt from bearman

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Can Lando just bottle a brake zone again

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jesus flying Bearman

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Toto's fucked it

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GP has to deal with a comedian part time racing driver 🤣

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don't forget full time twitch streamer

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its just a hobby for him, F1

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NOOOOOOOOOO man

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man

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wtf

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OUCH

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not gone well

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Colapinto isn't worth being in that seat, he's not doing anything to save himself

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doesn't seem to be an improvement on jd

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he wasnt even an improvement on sargeant

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costed more money to williams than he brought

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your boys stuck as fuck

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its whatever

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as long as its decent points

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didnt have hope for monaco anyway

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Yeah, not been a strong track for the bulls recently

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I'm gonna commit violence at aston martin man, how can alonso be pointless after 8 races

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watch out man theyre gonna say the engine failure and lawson sending it into him was his fault and hes washed

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he's lost speed but I wouldn't say he's completely washed. yet

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1st order for argentina: gasly car rebuild

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i would like mercedes to do something you german fuckwits

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oscar pls bin it mate

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could make my weekend

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Ooft was close lol

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hamiton looks kinda fucked now

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no?

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but oscar looks much more shaky in monaco

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yeah he's been oversteering a lot

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had a few incidents in practice and quali also

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1

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and 17 behind verstappen

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he's got a gap to hadjar

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best thing will be to just solidify 5th

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on used up hards looks like he cant push

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wont be too bad but its interesting cause he was almost on max's ass

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he dropped a lot

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Yeah he was, looks like he ate up his tires

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not sure if he has another set of hards

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hadjar downwards lapped

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jesus

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Alright here's hoping Lando gets held the fuck up

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Ffs george stop complaining and go full Osama Bin Russell

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oo piastri in

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Has McLaren shafted it hmmm

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has ferrari shafted it

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a safety car and leclerc's race is ruined

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They could have pitted Charles

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yeah

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fook sake

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just seen the pit

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Right, no osama bin franco

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Russell goes full Mario Kart xD

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HAHAHAHHA

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Mercedes i am starting to like you

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OUCH

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lmao

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FUCKIN KIMI

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ze germans are doing it

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oof Albon is actually quite a bit dangerous with these

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Merc might as well do a one stop and take the dq

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@granite tangle what you thinking, red bull red flag masterclass?

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i pray for it

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worst case looks like he got hamilton covered

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If it was briatore tsunoda would be in a barrier by now

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oh if verstappen can back up lando a bit I'd like him a lot more

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Good idea, pit once and take the 30 sec penalty. 4th either way

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Unless they fluff their pitstop which they've done too much this season already, this is what happens when Jonathan Wheatley leave your team

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Both RBs are doing a dub, especially Liam, he's been needing this weekend badly

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Hadjar Dotd

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The best bit of monaco is hearing crofty and brundle inventing Formula E regulations to try and make it better 😂

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Mercedes are going to have pit Kimi twice in 7 laps

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Strategic flop for merc

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How did George get that drive through? My stream broke

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cut the chicane

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to overtake albon

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to get past albon

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Lmaooooo

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silly boy

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nah hes goated for that actually

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love the mario kart tactics

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bastard stewards

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He said he'd rather take the penalty

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probably was expecting a time penalty as opposed to a drive through

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P6 and P7 probably, the mercs really got stuck behind the RB and Williams dropping 40 seconds each for their teammates

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Red Bull need to bring Verstappen in now

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he's got enough of a gap to just pit on the last lap, all depends on how he's feeling in the car

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Kimi has done his second stop

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Fucks sake riccardo adami just tell him the bloody answer

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Finally he's coming in

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What a race!

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big flop for the 2 stop gimmick

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was only interesting cause it had an unknown element

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next year who is watching cars backing up the order for 70 laps

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at least it was half that with the 1 stop

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That was... one of the messiest Monacos I've seen.

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5 pit stops mandatory for 2026

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1/2 of the double done!

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but still, it was pretty much normal 1 stop monaco with extra defending

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it was basically ricciardo 2018 simulator

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Modern tires have way too much grip to make monaco good for F1

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The braking zones are always going to be so short

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🤣

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Ain't no way

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Indy now about to start

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Scotty Mac is already out before we've even started

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We're about to go!

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People are dropping like flies here in the 500

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It’s very true that Ricky is not working out with Lewis

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Ferrari need to sack him no questions asked

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Tho knowing Ferrari they’d rather sack Lewis than hire a non Italian not “one of them” race engineer

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Not sack but like, move him to a different department

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and pay money for bono

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Bono ain’t moving

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You can get someone else that’s good tho

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You get the whole radio in f1tv

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idk, I don't pay for f1 tv anymore

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also, idk who else would work with lewis

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I bought it for a couple months now

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Gary Gannon is pretty good but he's just moved to aston

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Lewis is confident and knows what he’s asking

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Hell McLaren has an issue with lando and his engineer

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Lando needs a more vocal supportive RE, Lewis doesn’t really need that

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Could snipe him for all I know

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Alright fuck it
Gary Gannon replaces Will Joseph, Gannon is good at being the supportive engineer. Did it really well with Mick Schumacher.
Will Joseph to Ferrari for Hamilton

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Ferrari honestly need to sack all the italians

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Lewis want to know exactly what he needs to do, and that he can lean on his engineers to make sure that's a winning strat

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96 laps in, McLaughlin, Andretti, Rossi, Veekay, Shwartzman, Larson, Simpson and Robb all out, we're not even half way through yet
25 cars remain

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It was so interesting seeing him opposite George Russell, who wants to know EXACTLY what everyone else is doing, and why, to input on the strategy

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Leclerc is also the same

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yes yes i know
but Ferraris most successful period?
Cars were designed by a South African
Run by a Frenchman
Pit team was run by a Brit

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He wants to know everything and also choose his own plan

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Ehh idk

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Alonso is more similar to max I think

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They both scream a lot and make snarky remarks

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They need someone they can bounce off of

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Like GP

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I think they all do that

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Alonso needs a GP

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He is aware enough to know whats going on around him, so he just needs an engineer to fill in the information he doesn't know

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If you ever have a chance to listen in on verstappens driver cam and live radio

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You’ll see how fucking insane GP is at his job

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Absolutely irreplaceable

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Rahal and Herta are a lap down, Dixon 3 laps down

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The thing is that Ferrari has brought both of them to that point in just 8 races

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😭

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Somehow an evergreen meme

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And I’ve never seen him as depressed as this year

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Nah, 2020 those guys were going through it

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this year is pretty close though

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Looks like I didn't miss out on much not seeing this F1 race

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So this is quite a situation

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All and all, bar Ferrari, this race went as badly as it could for the teams I support

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Being Alpine and Aston martin

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Alonso getting frustrated as per usual, and honestly I would too

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Two races back to back, and bullshit causes both of them to be out of points

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I am sure Alonso is thinking about ending it all as much leclerc has been

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your boys washed

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Why even bother racing at Monaco if this is what happens

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also, apparently Formula 1 2025 is on the verge of coming out

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This track would be better as just a time attack race

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Thats why they tried to enforce mandatory 2 stop race

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to try and make it entertaining

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The cars are literally as big as a bus, they cannot overtake

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all it did was be more of the same

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either make this race a sprint race

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or make the cars smaller

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They'll need to make every driver pit every lap at this rate lol

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More so monaco than anywhere else

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And I'll be real if you, if Monaco is somehow allowed, I am surprised they're not racing in Knockhill

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Its a good race if you're into strategy, but strategy calculation can only count for so much entertainment

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I don't even need constant overtaking, i just need close battles

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The only overtake was Bartelleto

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And then he screwed it up

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Though that was thanks to Kimi pushing wide

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Newgarden picking his way through the field unfortunately

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teams will develop as much as possible to get the downforce back

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and in their testing, they're losing all the electrical energy halfway down straights so they're only chucking out like 500bhp as opposed to the 900-1000bhp

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True

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Honestly, that'd be fine

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if the rest of the regulations actually accompanied

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We're less than 12 months away from the 2026 season and there seems to be issues with the engines. They're going to run out of battery because the battery is picking up a bit too much slack.

Horner wants a system put in place that isn't unreasonable. Toto Wolff is against changing it now but wants to see how things go before changing it. But it...

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So, the teams have had access to a basic idea version of the proposed regulations for 2026 that use active aero. Only to find out that this causes the cars to be totally undriveable and they produce three times the amount of aero imbalance as there currently is with just running DRS.

So with no new engine regulations signed off, and issues alre...

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Again, can't they just go back to driving 90s cars if shit has become this proeblamtic

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just put a halo on them and bam

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Smaller, faster, more agile, actual racing

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nah cause there have been loads of safety standards that the old cars won't meet

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the low noses, underside plank and stuff

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These regulations need to buzz off sometimes

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The sheer volume of fuel

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Cause it's only causing itself problems

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F1 is the only FIA world champ I can name that's struggling to regulate itself into a better sport

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Yeah especially right now

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I mean look at WEC

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it breathed new life into Endurance racing

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GT3s are taking off, SRO GT2s are becoming more popular

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And they have to deal with BoP, unlike F1

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These current regs were supposed to be better for racing, but teams just developed so much they bought like 80% of the old downforce back so the cars can't race eachother anyway

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May as well turn F1 into a time attack event

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I do think they succeeded in reducing dirty air

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Would be also fun

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I've got an idea which is rather terrible

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Put them in the constructor's road car

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balance them, and have them race them

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And the teams which don't have cars would use the cars that their engine constructor makes

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It would no doubt cause them fewer headaches

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Oh! Newgarden has a problem!!!!!

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You've invented GT3

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XD, true

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Honestly, that's what they should do

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Or at least force all the drivers to drive those cars as wel

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I mean max already did

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Get them do to f1 esports

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Jump on f1 25 and just do the races on there

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with damage off

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Ha! The 3Peat for Newgarden is over!!!!

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Redbull and RB: Honda NSX GT3
Aston Martin: Aston Martin Vantage GT3
Ferrari, HAAS and Sauber: Ferrari 296 GT3
Mercedes and Williams: Mercedes AMG GT3
Mclaren: Mclaren 720S GT3
It's just Alpine that's tricky

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Alpine would need an AMG GT3 because the A110 is too slow for GT3

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Oh I'm sure you could get that 4cyl turbo up to ~550bhp for GT3

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life works in such funny ways

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for Alpine

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i dont see alpine

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Eh, same thing

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^

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im taking the piss

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Mario is piss

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Failing that, alpine could finally build that stupid vgt concept thing thats been in gran turismo since like 5

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Newgarden is now out!

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anyhow

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this thing

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back to modding cyberpunk until im next summoned

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I definitely wanna see proper

glacial pine
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do summon me if anyone shits on alonso tho

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Hehehehe

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tweetman im observing you

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Mario is my homie

glacial pine
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Alonso is really good?

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there we go

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🤣

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Still won't get it together and score a point this year tho 🤣✌️

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copium

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2025 has been such a shitty seaason for him, makes me sad

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You know things are bad when Stroll is taking mayhem points

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And Alsono has no points

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It almost feels like a repeat of the Mclaren years

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and alonso is just fucking unlucky

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"I'm the unluckiest driver in the fucking world"

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if anything the only thing it proves is that lance is overhated and isnt that incompetent

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I never thought otherwise honestly

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but even still

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His perofmrnace at Monaco was pretty depressing

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apart from gasly that had a horrendous quali and a brake failure that sent him flying

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i dont think anyone had a worse race than alonso

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Lance absolutely OBLITERATED everyone in F3 when he was there, he clearly knows what he's doing

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it is, but again, papa stroll pulled some strings

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Lmao

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that's not fair

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Oh daddy Stroll

granite tangle
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honestly, how do people stay fans of F1 when they're not cheering for the leading teams
It's literally only ever 1 of 3 or 4 teams

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it kinda goes to show tho the worst f1 driver can still school a lot of categories

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And it's hilarious

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Because argubaly it used to be worse back then

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Because cars were even less close in performance

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he's gotten stale now

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RPM?

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nah hes still a cunt

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and also look at him

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pushing 40 looking like this shitting on people

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pffft

granite tangle
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hes a joke

severe spindle
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I do wanna ask a question

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I plan to become a racing driver one day, though I'm probably too old to ever get into F1
Wil I still be eligable for other open wheel series and motorsport series? Endurance races, GT3 races, etc

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Can race anywhere you like, as long as you're talented enough and can get the funding

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Just make sure your racing license is eligible for the category you want to race in

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I don't know about talented, but I definitely do need to take karting lessons

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Money is bug

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Big

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Problem is, I don't know if Iranians are banned from FIA or not

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Start at the cheapest, slowest end of Motorsport

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So I don't know if I can ever get license

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I think you just have to sign a thing saying "hey maybe my government is a mess" if the FIA doesn't like your country

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At worst I'll race under no flag then

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But then I'll probably be banned from my own country..

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You'd have to choose a flag

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Man, what a shame when you're hated by either side

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Nikita Mazepin raced under the flag of the Russian Automobile Federation instead of the Russian one

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Are there any half decent Russian F1 drivers? I mean before Mazepin's time

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uhhh

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Vitaly Petrov maybe?

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Perhaps

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he was the first

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aside from that

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no

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This is the thing, I need to become a proper engineer first

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Get funding from working

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And then waste that funding on becoming a racing driver

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Well figure out what's cheapest. There might be a silly budget series

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there are some racing series in iran

glacial pine
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Road rallies. Maybe there's hillclimb racing with road cars

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Some small karting ones, some rally ones

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In the UK there's a Citroen C1 championship that's comparable to Karting, apparently

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Fact of the matter is, I don't need to go international yet

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I'll definitely look more and more into what I can do in terms of racing license

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maybe i'll remain racing here

glacial pine
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There's probably even series that only need the most basic of licenses

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Who knows, maybe I'll end up becoming a president of FIA and making one of F1's rounds take place in Iran than Bahrain

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Just make sure y'all build a good track ✌️

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Hehe, indeed, we do need a good trakc

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Iran hasn't got any real major big circuits

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Some karting ones at best

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Most races are dirt courses

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Iran would make a good leg of a Rally series

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Lots of desert and varied terrain

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Yeah maybe I can find something similar here

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I'll have to be more active on social media

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Catch up on opportunities

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I don't have my own car yet, I drive my mom's 206

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So I'll need to get something of my own and then thrash it

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it'll be fine

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I'll probably make something happne

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Unfortunately it looks like Palou the dull is going to win the 500

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Fuck Alex Palou and fuck IndyCar, and these pricks think F1 is "boring"

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Let's hope Cadillac don't even consider him for one of the seats because we don't need him in F1