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That was Stehle's 26th kill

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So yeah only aces

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Including the ace of aces

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Makes sense tho

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By that point of the war if you sucked you had no chance in the Luftwaffe

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Tehy really were the top pilots

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Given not the best planes either

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and tehy still were terrors of teh sky

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The 190A series were getting old but definetly still a threat

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The 262 was almost invulnerable apart from during take off and landing

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The Bf-109G-10 (what Hartmann was flying) and K-4 were as fast if not fastest than most allied fighters

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Problem is when you are outnumbered by like 30:1 there is not much you can do

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The problem with the Luftwaffe in the late war was pilot shortages

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And aircraft serviceability

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They actually had lots of aircraft

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Most of them were just not in a flyable state however

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And also fuel shortages

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um
why are the "areas of german control" in blue?

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Why not?

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I would've thought they would be red because evil

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When talking tactically, good and evil mean nothing

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"evil"

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The Nazis were assholes

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And if we're talking "evil" then the allies' hands aren't much cleaner

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But so were the soviets

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true

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There was no "good" side, just lesser bad ones

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Them invading the neutral Iran, giving famine to India, invading Africa

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Also it's just a colour you can swap it for whatever

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if the Axis won, history would recall them as the good guys

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In older Il-2 games the germans always have blue names and allies red

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Even tho it's a russian game

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It's just a colour

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true

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indeed

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indeed it is

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if the axis won, they'd expose the crimes of the allies left and right and make their own disappear like how the allies did

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I used to consider it a thing of pride that we lived in a country that fought Nazi Germany
But it turns out America didn't enter the war to save the Jews, they did it because some country ruled by non-white people bombed a base they built on an island that didn't belong to them

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And they treated the German prisoners better than they did the Jews they rescued

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America entered the war because their navy got bombed by Japan

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then Hitler declared war on them

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before that they were sending supplies via sea to the UK

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nothing had to do with antisemitism

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it was a widespread phenomenon

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that and the Germans did their best to keep their treatment of jews a secret

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many german citizens learnt of the camps after the war when the americans forced them to see them

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it is a lie of deception

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a war is a war

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it needs to happen someetimes

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I was going to say "it's scary to think what our perspective of World War II would be if the Nazis won" but in reality, it wouldn't be much different

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American education didn't have to hide America's crimes in the war, they just kept the focus on the Nazis because foreigners

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if the nazis won we would be speaking german and talking about the glorious holy war

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although it is stupid how there are still holocaust deniers

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As history gets further away, though, it'll be much easier for deniers because there will eventually be no living witnesses left

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that and people just don't care anymore

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Rare Messerschmitt ME 262 "Schwalbe" flies again over the austrian alps at Airpower Airshow 2022.
Aircraft is owned and operated by the Messerschmitt Stiftung / Messerschmitt Foundation.
Aircraft was newly build and has new General Electric J85/CJ-610 engines instead of the original Jumo 004 jet engines.
Aircraft was piloted by Geri Krähenbühl....

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two of the sexiest planes ever made

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Siiiick

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8th May 1945: last day of WW2 in Europe as the German surrender would come into effect at 2301hrs

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3 German pilots scored a victory on that day, as said above

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including Major Erich Hartmann, the Ace of Aces

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He shot down a Yak-9, bringing his total Kill Score to 352

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His aircraft were easily remarked by their black tulip design on the aircraft's cowling

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He adopted it sometimes in 1944

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Although in practice he rarely flew his personal aicraft, as Soviet pilots recognized it and feared him, instead letting lesser experienced pilots fly them so they would have less chances of getting shot at

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He used whatever aircraft were available to remain incognito

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His favored tactic for attacking Soviet aircraft involved the element of surprised

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He never engaged in dogfights

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Instead, he would dive down on aircraft whose pilots had no idea he was there, get to within a few dozen meters from them, as close as possible, on their 6 o'clock, before shooting them down and disengaging

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When the Luftwaffe was reinstated after the war, he was recalled into service and flew the Candair Sabre, allegedly his favourite aircraft, which adorned his black tulip design

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He was eventually forced to retire in 1970 after opposing the acquisition of Starfighters

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In 2016, Eurofighter Typhoon's of Jagdgeschwader 71, his former unit, were (or at least one of them) painted in his black tulip scheme

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He died in 1993 aged 71

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He also survived Soviet captivity as he surrendered to the Western allies in May 1945 but he was given back to the soviets, returning to Germany years later

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Mitsubishi A7M2 prototype in a hangar, in 1945. It was meant to be the Zero's successor, however it never reached mass production due to slow development and Japan getting fucked

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Bf-109Ga-6, Royal Romanian Air Force, 1944-45

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asap fuck

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are you Romanian

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Yes

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can you share sarmale

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Yey

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Sorry

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aw

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it oke

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I thought the logo was mercedes for a sec..

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nah

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if we count the Benz part

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Daimler-Benz made the engines in the Bf-109's

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BMW made engines for the Fw-190, He-162

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BMW's logo is a propeller against the sky

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End of an era: Romania will retire all MiG-21 LanceR aircraft on May 15th

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The MiG-21 has been in Romanian service for 61 years

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Damn..

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I'll be sad to see them go

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But they do need their rest after having flown and gotten changed so often

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Yeah

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Pains me that i'll never get to see one fly in person

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But it is indeed time for them to go

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Maybe you will get to fly one

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As planes get older, the easier they become for casual pilots to get a chance to fly

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I mean some folks have gotten chances to fly MiG-15s and Sabres

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The Fishbed will most likely join the same fate

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Yeah i doubt i'll become a pilot lmao

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The Interwar Period saw Romania investing heavily in its military and defence infrastructure. Keen not to be reliant on foreign suppliers, this included licence building aircraft, which proved a stepping stone to the nation building their first indigenous designed fighter aircraft.

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18th August 1945: the last, or close to the last aerial fight of WW2 took place.
Japan surrendered on the 15th of August, although the documents would be officially signed on 2nd September.
2 USAAF B-32 Dominators were flying a reconnaissance mission over Tokyo, to make sure the Japanese were complying with the terms and to scout for entry points for the occupation forces. However, either because, as Japanese ace Saburo Sakai claimed, they thought they were being attacked, or as Komachi later claimed, that they could not bear to witness American aircraft flying with impunity over the ruins of Tokyo, Japanese fighters scrambled. One of the Dominators, Hobo Queen II, flying at 6100m, was only lightly damaged. The second one however, flying at around 3000m, was heavily damaged, with multiple crew members wounded, one fatally. The plane still managed to make it back to it's base; no Japanese aircraft were lost either. The next day, the Japanese were forced to remove all propellors from their aircraft

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?

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A new or old Ukrainan look?

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I really liked it

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vestal hull
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I have no idea

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Possible pre 2010

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A beautiful scheme for sure

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And yeah it's a good look

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Very nice and colorful

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Finnish Air Force Hurricane & F/A-18 Hornet

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Supermarine Spitfire and Eurofighter Typhoon in anniversary paintscheme

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The Typhoon is a smaller jet too

mental lantern
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Indeed!

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that makes it even funnier

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So like, the Typhoon is already one of the smaller jets and it is that much bigger than an old plane

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You cpuld probably park one of those on top of a Flanker lol

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This fucking meme

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Someone first made it a mod for AC7 and then someone else converted it to a GTA 5 mod lol

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another day of russia getting absolutely destroyed and me being happy about it

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I don't understand how they're mistakingly shooting down their own stuff

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This amount of blue on blue on a single day is unprecedented

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look at dem sexy flankers

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Weirdly Light on armaments as well.

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Only two heat seeking R-73 Archer missiles.

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Violating international airspace with a full armament load is probably not the best idea

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That is true, but this state of the plane does make it more likely that this violation was an intentional one.

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All MiG-21 LanceR operations come to an end today 😦

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Today is a sad day, as the final most advanced Fishbeds finally become grounded.

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I suppose despite all of Romania's efforts, there wasn't enough their modernizations could have done to have saved their Fishbeds.

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Doesn't NK have any @mental lantern?

mental lantern
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But I did speicifcy "most advanced"

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Generally speaking only the poorer countries have either the MiG-21 or its Chinese counterpart, the F/J-7

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India has a large fleet of modernized 21's

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ik one of them shot a Pakistani F-16 down recently

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"Old, but not outdated"

mental lantern
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India is more impressive than most would like to give them credit for

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weird to have MiG-21's and Su-30's in service at the same time

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quite the gap

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Well, I guess both can fulfill different purpses

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and doubt the MiG-21s wil stay foeever

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Japanese-captured & rebuilt B-17's around Mt Fuji, Japan, sometimes during WW2.

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photo's taken today at the withdrawal ceremonies, found on insta

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that fucking shape man

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so cool

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Beautiful formation.

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Royal Romanian Air Force Bf-108B-1 & Bf-109E-7's

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mental lantern
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Hehe

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Canadian Hornets usually dont get flashy paintjobs

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And when they do

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They look fantastic

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u sure its canadian?

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afaik it's a USN F/A-18C

mental lantern
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Oh

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My bad

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The color scheme made me mistake and I didn't pay attention

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Sorry

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Eagle II on the ramp

weary spruce
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f15?

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yeah

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Boeing F-15EX Eagle II

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Mitsubishi F-2A Viper Zero

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Very mighty the EX is

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especially for a 2-seater

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indeed

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The F-15E is one of the few 2 seater planes derived from a single seat plane which looks really good

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Stuff like the 2 seater Gripen, 2 Seater Typhoon and 2 seater F-16 don't work

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yep

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the MiG-21 is meh in that department

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not bad not good

mental lantern
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yeah it's Average

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And the F-18.. kinda works

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Seeing as there are more 2 seater Rhinos tahn there are single seat ones nowadays i feel

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And then there is the Flanker which is a beauty

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mental lantern
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Jesus that's one low ass flight

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it doesn't look bad

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but i much prefer single seaters

mental lantern
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kinda like how I feel towards 2 seater Fulcrums

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I don't think they look bad but I would take the single seat over it

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then there's this beauty

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🥵

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Hehehe

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Ooooh this is so cool

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The Hornet in that livery looks absolutely delicious

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it does look a lot less boring

mental lantern
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Indeed

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it tends to come in the boring ASG all the time

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so when it comes in something different

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be it this or aggressor red air stuff

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It shines

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On July 17, 1969, the day of the piston engine fighter aircraft finally past.
But it certainly went out fighting.
This is the story of Captain Soto of the Honduran Air Force, who scored three kills in a day in what would be the final piston engine dogfights.

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That's one wicked livery

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Yeee

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New-Zealand's best "operational" fighter aircraft

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really? hahaha

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I thought for being Austrlia's neigbours they'd be sorta similarly armed

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they don't have a single fighter jet

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So much for all that Bravado then

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man that looks fantastic

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Look at them

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F-16 really is a pretty plane

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There's F-22's in Romania RN

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if it were a few weeks earlier we could've seen F-22's and MiG-21's flying together

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Really? That's super cool

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I guess it was due to the F-22s getting stationed to make sure Russia doesn't come too west

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Wut

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Huh?

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It's to do with the Russian situation

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F-22s got stationed in Poland too

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Meh exercises happen all the time

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Could be

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But Russia is literally being invaded by itself rn I think they got enough on their plates for now I doubt they're gonna attack NATO any time soon

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F-22 seen from Romanian F-16

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no

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I literally see Lithuania flag on the picture

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Romania and Lithuania

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ah yeah BAP badge

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i guess that guy participated and is showing off

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aaa

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Oka

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Just had a F-16 fly at low level over my home

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150m alt max

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Probably lower

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Actually no probably 250m max

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Idk

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Low in any case

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Jesus

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That must have felt a bit scary

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No

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Just cool

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Hehe

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It'd definitely unsettle me

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Ah fak

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Here the chat

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Here some swedish jets

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Or maybe american too

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damn that's the historic flight

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i don't know what the two on the left are

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middle is a Grippen

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Right is a Draken

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ooooooh

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That's a really cool flyby

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Yes

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Really cool

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It may sound biased

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But I swear we have the best liveries for planes

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mental lantern
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holy hell

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That looks really cool

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the red is beautoful

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Strange livery to homage though

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finite cave
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looks good

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Yeah Koenigsegg uses the ghost squadron emblem cuz they used one of their hangars as a production facility (i think?) to say thanks

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So wait

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That's really their story?

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Koeinigsegg is based on a real life fighter squadron?

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Holy hell now i like them more

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Yessir

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Omagad

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Swedish national day

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2 jets

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And a commercial plane

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Oooooh

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this is so cool

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Fantastc

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Yes

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The sound of the jets man

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They sound so phenomenal

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Indeed they di

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they sound loud and powerful and you can feel it in your bones

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Yes

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There is a massive airshow here in September, i really want to go

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Demo teams, F-16's, Typhoon's, Hornets, F-35's, Spitfire, B-25, ...

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That sounds incredible

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Definitely visit it if you can

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The chance may not come again

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bruh already

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I still don't have the first one

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The best of 2 worlds

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Pffft

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The contrast in tech

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Those MiGs aren't even that out of date in terms of the tech used in them

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Yeah

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But

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They have an element of surprise

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As in you have a random chance of your mig falling out of the sky due to control lock-up or engine failure

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They become less reliable as they get older

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That's pretty sick

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Lovely pictures

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That's a really close formation

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  • Sir we've been invited to RIAT! What do we send? We don't have LanceR's anymore and F-16's are too common!
  • Send the Shark
  • The what?
  • I said send the Shark
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That looks terrifying and badass

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Haha, this is really cool

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What is RIAT though

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Royal International Air Tattoo

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Annual british airshow

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Oooh

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I didn't know that

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On top of a fortress in Belgium

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That's a really cool statue

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Feels like a real one turned into a statue

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Well it is a real one

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I'm pretty sure anyway

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It's not a rare thing to do

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That'd be extremely cool if true

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Found on Insta

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My new wallpaper

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The Phantom isn't my favourite jet

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But in blue

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It's just so good

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Same with the F-16/F-2

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It looks really good indeed

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Japanese air self defense force planes always look so good with their colors and designs on their bodies

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Which means?

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What do you think it means

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Me saying it's nice

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Oh

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Today i see plen

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I have a LOT more pics

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Man these are super sick

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Lovely museum

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omagah

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Have some more

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Didn't know land phantoms could fold their wings

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Man these are cool

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And yeah land phantoms could doo

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It was because the plane was originally designed as a navy plane

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Yet every other division got essentially the same plane

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So the features that were meant for naval operations carried over

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Yup

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Hehe

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I like planes

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but I haven't seen so many fighters no more

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It's rare to see them yeah

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I've only seen them in flight

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In May I used to see plenty of them training

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Really? That's super cool

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I think I sent some pictures

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its a game

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WW2 fighter jet vs 4th gen fighter jet

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Good lord the size difference hahaha

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Yup

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It's funnier since the Typhoon isn't even the biggest out there

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Imagine the German ww2 jet next to a flanker

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Lol

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Man what a formation

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It must be hard however

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Considering the speed difference

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on the f4 phantoms tail there's a little smile

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it's very cute

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thats not cute thats creepy

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he looks like he is showing his balls

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or idk he is a dick

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What the fuck is in your imagination

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😦

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Whoooaaa

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I've never seen these pics of the F-16XL

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Man that thing was so cool

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Apparently these pics got uploaded for the first time today or yesterday

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By some dude on reddit

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Oooooh

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So they're very fresh secret information

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That's fantastic

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It does make me happy to see more of this plane

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It is cool

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it's hilarious cause XL literally stands for Extra Large on this plane's case

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new Ukrainian Su-27 Camo scheme

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It is quite a cool look

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Though is it really the new camo? I feel like this was their old camo

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From what I can gather yes

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Might be a one-of

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Assuming there are multiple still flying

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it's hard to imagine given how many get shot down

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well Ukraine doesn't disclose their losses obviously

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and Russia claims they've destroyed like 4 times what the Ukrainians had before the war

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I suppose there's still quite a few flankers left

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otherwise they wouldn't bother

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Hopefully when they get F-16's they'll get good use out of them

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I will say that the new camo looks very F-22 like

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And i think it suits it very nicely

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Though I also liked the blue digital camo a lot

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Since training and equipping takes far too much time

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Russia more in comparison considering the size of their military

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Isn't that the ghost of Kiev or whatever

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It was a morale boost propaganda

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But the downed planes number was real

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The squadron which defended the capital and downed those planes were actually rewarded a honorary ghost of Kiev patch

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Oh

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Yeah the story is basically that

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man this is a sick photo

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I love it

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Agreed

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The
@RoyalAirForce
intercepted two Russian Tu-142 long-range maritime patrol bombers this morning, north of Scotland.

The quick reaction alert Typhoon jets were supported by a Voyager tanker and have now returned to
@RAFLossiemouth

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Way ro keep things low profile Russia

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I am kinda surprised they have any planes left after this long into the war

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They're using them in a rather smart manner

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or well trying to

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no point in trying to engage Russian planes

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too risky

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let the ground-based air defences take care of those if possible

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and use the planes against drones, cruise missiles, ground targets...

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that's my take on it anyway

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Yeah tats mainly the use they see

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Must be cool having your own MiG-29

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Ir really is sick

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The MiG-29 is a really good looking plane too

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Yup

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Well fighter jets aren't cheap

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So obviously you need big cash

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Especially one infamous for unreliability

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You never see a privately owned F-16 or F-15

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Why?

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Well because countries that operated the MiG-29 are fed up with the maintenance cost and their frequency

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So everyone is slowly getting rid of them

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There is a single private owned F-16

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Really? show if you can

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Thats pretty cool

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I wish The Crew had jets

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Same

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It'd be a cool game mode

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All Im asking for

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Hehe

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Itd be the dream

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It would be cool to see jet fighters in race inspired liveries

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@mental lantern Mini I just thought of something and I dont think it would be a good idea now lmao

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F-15J with Itasha

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Weirdly enough I think it's been done

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Well not wirh itashas

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But with Japanese icon inspired looks

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Like sakura trees and such

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Not because they're good investments

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Or because of reliability

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A MiG-23 crashed at an American airshow a few days ago

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I didn't hear that

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There's a video of the crew ejecting

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Ukraine getting F-16's asap

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w

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Yes

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Nice

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They're getting everything

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Its crazy

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Same way the USSR got everything from the USA and UK in WW2

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Food, fuel, clothes, trucks, tanks, planes, ...

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Except this time it's Russia that's gonna get rekt

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Yes

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Well not if you asked the soviet officials

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I remember hearing/reading that at one point like a 1/3 or 1/4 of the entire soviet air force was made out of american/british planes

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The USSR may not have won the battle in the East (at least not so easily) without the Arctic convoys bringing in supplies from the West

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Here's an example

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The P-39

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And later the P-63

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Were pretty much made on purpose for the Soviets

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Since the western allies didn't like them

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Hmm..

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The tales of Russian incompetence continue

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That they will simply never be able to win

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The soviet pilots notoriously hated the Spitfire but loved the P-39

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Soviet Sherman

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Karma is a bitch

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You get lend lease to beat nazi ass

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Then you invade your peaceful neighbor because you think you're a superpower

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Lend lease turns against you

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Now your ass gets kicked

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(wikipedia, take it with a grain of salt)

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By the end of June 1944 the United States had sent to the Soviets under lend-lease more than 11,000 planes; over 6,000 tanks and tank destroyers; and 300,000 trucks and other military vehicles

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Often worn

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And it wasn't really fit for such harsh conditions

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The Soviet Union called it insignificant. Enough reason to take a closer look!

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saw this on instagram

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from the bucharest international air show

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That's so cool

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Fantastic

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my new phone wallpaper lol

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It's fitting

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smol c17

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Kinda cute

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ye

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Adorable

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Man that's a beauty

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Hmm

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There we go

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Hahaha

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"This is AWACS Long Caster, I'm off to burgerking"

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I just love aggressor squadron liveries

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There's a part of me with intrusive thoughts that wanted him to eject

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They're really cool liveries

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But damn man, that Su-27 is big

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Did they leave our roundels there out of lazyness or respect

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it's likelt the image was sent from much before

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I don't think that image relates to current events

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It's likely just the MiG-29s of Slovak gone to do excerises with allies

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H

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It's not necessarily a recent pic

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That makes sense

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Not a plane but still sick

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Thsy does look very sick

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Seeing some interesting stuff tomorrow

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if they let us in

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Eyyy

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Draken is sick

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there's a viggen too

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That's sick

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The MiGs still fly

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it's an old pic

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they've been retired sincemay

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Today gonna be fun

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holy crap even Tornados

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that's incredible

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Drakken takeoff

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Man this is a spectacle

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Man look at this

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Absolutely amazing

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That was a realy quick take off

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this visit was so worth it

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Yeah

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Couldn't stay till the end cuz brother and father were tired of the heat

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Had the F-35 fly above us as we were driving away

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Sat in a F-16 cockpit though

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That's so sick

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You got to experience it first hand

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man this is awesome

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It is

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Having a fighter jet go full throttle near you is the best feeling in the world

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Even when it's hundreds of meters away and you wear earplugs

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When the engine turns towards you, you hear it

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And most importantly you feel it

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In your bones

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KC-135 time

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Aerial refueling is cool

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They even did that

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Amazing

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I've fallen in love with this danish f-16

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It's a very cool design

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yess

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Doesn't seem like it wants to load

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loll

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a tree gate thats cool

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a

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yeah seriously lol

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have those unknown objects still not been identified?

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‘chinese spy balloon’

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One of them was a Chinese spy baloon

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that one has been identified

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So I don't know if the 2 UFOs were also ballons or something else

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honestly i dont even know why people like the f22

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it's a cool plane

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Very capable

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ah

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And it's probably the best air superiority fighter in the world

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Even though it's old now

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It is a bit overrated to be fair

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But it isn't without reason either

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Su-57 is terrible

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Chinese planes we know pretty much nothing about

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Not that they're making them in the first place they're just ground targets at this point

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The few that exist

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F-35 is a capable plane too but it's compromised

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It tries to be a multirole, a vtol/stol jet and a carrier plane all at the same time

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And it's just fat

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I've seen it in person and it's massive

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they're also easy to lose lol

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But the Su-57's strength comes mainly in close combat encounters

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Which is rather irrelevant these days

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Since eeverything is done at range

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How is the Su-57 supposed to approach a Raptor/Lightning when the radar signature of the felon is 10-100 times larger

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Also

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If DCS is anything to go by, the Raptor still wins

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But reality is often different

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on paper the F-22 should indeed have the upperhand

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The Su-57, even based on releaseed info, doesn't have much of a way to defend itself when it's not really hidden

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The Felon kinda looks like a pancake lol

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Long and flat

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I like how it looks

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it really is yeah

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it's got alot of surface area

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But it is also very flat

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Does it get better than this?

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Eyyyy, hehehe
The F-14 and MiG-29 do indeed look good together
Lucky that one country has both, and too bad that country is mine

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the malaysian air force also has both american and russian fighters

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Indeed, Su-30MKMs

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An american navy pilot said he got to train/fight against malaysian Su-30's and he respected them a lot

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think it was here

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can't check rn

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there's plenty of crazy stuff

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hehe, it's pretty incredible seeing these together

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Nato ftw

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This forum is called aviation why are all of them war planesNagatoroStare

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Here's a Pokemon plane

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Aww

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das crazy

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hmm..

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Rafales are such good looking planes

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"RMAF SU-30MKM Flanker; a USAF F-22 Raptor 154th Wing, F-15C 131 FS, an RMAF MIG-29N Fulcrum; an BAE Hawk; and an RMAF F/A-18 Hornet. (jason robertson)"

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i never realized how huge the Raptor is

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Different times

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Very..

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sigh

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That looks really good

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flanker big boi

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It really is a big one
It always amazes me
What mussuem is this though to have all these planes of different origin

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USAF Museum

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They have Flanker anf mig? That's a surprise

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I know they did buy some Fulcrums but never knew rhat had flankers too

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Flanker they got this month

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It's an ex-Ukrainian one i think

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Used by civilians in the USA

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And probably by the air force for training

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There is a shot of a Su-27 allegedly dogfighting a F-16 over Area 51

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Literal B7R haha

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crazy

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It's cool, also it's a fun way to find out the capabilities of the aircraft

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Maybe some of what they learned was later used on the updated versions of both the 15 and 16

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Perhaps yeah

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Kinda doubt it

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Those planes are much older than when the Su-27's became available to the USA

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even with updated models

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almost nobody is buying F-15/16's

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That's a point

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Big boi

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It's so big man

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@patent silo could you

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PLEASE

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post that shit HERE this time

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Your mum theoTrol

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I like planes

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Plen go up ass theoTrol

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Ass/11 theoTrol

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plane hits you

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Oh man, German Phantoms always look so cool

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Romanian Tomcat is pretty cool

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it'd be funny imagining Romania operate those

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If I get the Tomcat one day i'll only use that skin

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There is a Romanian hornet skin too

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Hehe, you like repping your country don't you

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i do

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Glad to see someone is patriotic

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in east rail melts you ))))

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first Belgian Air Force F-35A approaching completion

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Belgians about to be happy

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it's gonna be a few years before they arrive in country though

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they'll stay in Texas for a while for the first pilots to train on

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Bureaucracy

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the training center's there

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why bring the planes over

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for no one to fly them?

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it is what's happening right now with Ukrainian pilots as well

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i know the Netherlands sent F-16's to Romania for Ukrainian pilots to train on

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yeah for them to be in closer vicinty

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and how some Ukrainian pilots are in US to be trained

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NATO pilot training center is in Texas

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pretty much every european pilot goes there for training

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Yeah more often than not

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decomissionned MiG-21 LanceR A's (i believe)

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These planes' liveries always make them so interesting to look at

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It's still rather amazing how they managed to keep them operational for so long

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huh, I never knew Canada used Fishebds

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How on earth

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I don't undeerstand

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It's not real

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It's a popular hoax

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I almost spelled it hawx 💀

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huh.. it looks so real though..

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The first F-16's from Norway have arrived

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They be looking good

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Yup

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Damn that's really cool

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I love these types of photos

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Spitfire commemoration

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oooh

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That's clever

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Now that's cool

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A formation you wouldn't normally see

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The first Belgian F-35 is complete. F-35A TR-3 Block 4 FL-001, factory code AY-01

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That looks pretty good

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Afaik it's the only F-35 operator other than Denmark to have coloured roundels

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Doesn't the RAF have F-35s?

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Oh nvm they're not using the coloured roundel, bruh

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Just plain white

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The fuck is wrong with just using the normal coloured roundel

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Less stealthy i suppose

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By the time you see the roundel you're probably already dead lol

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Therefore you don't see it anyway

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Most modern aircraft have that

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I don't really get their point, they just make an aircraft look less colorful and interesting

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But as in certain kinds of paint can reflect more radar waves than others

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The aircraft's coating is just as important stealth-wise as it's shape

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Damn that's a lot of bullets

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Holy shit

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i mean a kill is a kill

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Hahaha

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That's great

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another one

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Hahaha

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It's hilarious rhat they managed to keep count given how common bird strikes are

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Ooooh, this is cool

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American B-1, on flight, escorted by Romanian F-16

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yes

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brand-new Eagle II's

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Also Ukraine allegedly downed 3 Fullbacks today

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They look good

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Nowadays with how incompetent Russisa seems

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i have no idea whether to consider them a threat anymore or not

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They look very sleek

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Yeah

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There's now 4 F-15EX Eagle II's in the Air Force

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More Eagle II's

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cursed

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Aaand Ukraine shot down another Fullback

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That's 4 within a single week

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It's a popular hoax but it's not real

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The reaction might but the plane is very real

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I assume it's from some documentary

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Which means it's a reenactment

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Planes are

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The dialogue i mean

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I thought as much

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Patriot doing work

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6 Flankers shot down this week

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Jesus christ man

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Russia must be running low on planes at this ratde

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I don't think so

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but they won't be so bold anymore

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especially with F-16's coming soon

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I doubt they'll care

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as they not continued to have since the start of the war almost 2 years ago

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not a plane but still beautiful: Strv-122A main battle tank in Ukrainian Service

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That looks more like an MBT itself

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The BONER

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it such a coiol plane

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Greek camo slaps

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Their camo is indeed very nice and very unique

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That's a photo worth a lifetime

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Mom can we get Blue Angels?
No we have Blue Angels at home

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The blue angels at home:

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Pfft, I'll let you have that one

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a long time at sea can make a ship ugly

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the sea is not kind

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bit of surface rust won't bring a ship down though

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Better

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Hehe

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That's some proper first timers

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Okay how lol

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How is that even gonna launch

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yes

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A400M just flew over my house

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hell yeah

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That's pretty cool, it'd excite me too

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those turboprops are very loud

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almost like a jet

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happy bday btw @mental lantern

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That's alot of F-16 goodness, all gathered together

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Eurofighter and J-10

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That's so cool, love how it lools

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One dirty F-35B

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That's been used well

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Yeah

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wait I think I clicked two tomes

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times

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oh yeah I did fuck