Build Posting

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Besides the lack of aftermarket decals and limits being lower than desired, it's probably my favorite one

It just feels best

and it's not excruciatingly outdated (like forza)

[paper granite]

this tbh^

i was looking forward to it until i realized how soulless the white powder trip was

plus a even more barebones editor compared to fh3 😭

was bored, wanted a race c6 that drifts

original source being the C6R GT2

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Cool

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the vorsteiners woulda been more accurate

[paper granite]

correction the bumper of the GT1 but the headlights from the GT2

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Swear this is one of the prettiest games since 2012

[fossil dune]

On God

Boring people be coping

"ArGh, It'S tOo CaRtOoNy FoR nFs"

Skill issue

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lmao

[surreal osprey]

Going cycleing with the kids

[surreal osprey]

Reminds me of the time i thought vw was japanese

[terse geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[twilit hound]

clean

[paper granite]

can care less about graphics for me it’s all about core gameplay

which unbound, kinda fumbles with ngl

[wanton pagoda]

Agreed

Like if the graphics are good enough then I’m gud but they don’t have to be insanely crazy

At that point it’s overkill

Imo

[paper granite]

ps5 exclusive level graphics but the core gameplay has just as much depth as a mobile game, that’s a no from me

I’m still wondering why they got rid of forged engines and the ability to sell parts in unbound tho

and why they made muscle cars no longer viable

[wanton pagoda]

I hadn’t noticed that when watching vids, interesting

[wanton pagoda]

They practically never were, they made them shit at the one thing they are amazing at, drag racing

The only viable muscle car would be the mustang in drifting

Other than that, not much

[paper granite]

in past nfs games they were a bit viable but in unbound they’re now garage ponies

[wanton pagoda]

Yea, it’s sad to see tbh

A car category so famous and amazing is just shit in nfs

[paper granite]

the one game they get a legitimate hellcat they make it slow as hell 💀

[wanton pagoda]

Yea, Forza butchered the demon

Let’s hope they don’t butcher the demon 170 but knowing them that’ll happen

[paper granite]

no way the Demon 170 is coming to Forza

[wanton pagoda]

Why?

They have licensing for most dodge vehicles, would seem possible no?

They have the model(technically) just a few tweaks would be needed I’d say

[paper granite]

lmao

[exotic parcel]

I rebuilt Karl Losey's car

Because A tier is probably better for it than A+

[simple spruce]

Holy crap so accurately made too

[worn birch]

Looks good

[simple spruce]

Lovely work

[simple spruce]

I like the look on that. Simple and tracky

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It's kanjozoku inspired

[simple spruce]

I'm nor certain what that is

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The Japanese highway civics

[simple spruce]

Oh right

Kanjo

I remember now

The nickname Japanese give to mischief Civics

Because of those gang of racers

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yes

[simple spruce]

My bad for forgetting

I knew what they were

[surreal osprey]

I like it but also dont like it at the same time

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Why

[surreal osprey]

NO WAY R33

[simple spruce]

Hehe

This bumper makes the car look like a R33 yeah

Such a great build by Nico however

[karmic saddle]

Unbound doesn't have the R33

[twilit hound]

thats a r32

with the bee r bodykit

[karmic saddle]

oh wow NFS hasn't had the R33 since the Japanese versions of The Need For Speed

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So basically never

[twilit hound]

we will never know why

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32 and 34 are superior

[karmic saddle]

going by that logic we shouldn't have the C10 then

technically the R32 and R34 too since the R35 is the more superior model

[surreal osprey]

Nvm forgot about it

Thought it wasnt nfs

And the headlight just looks simulair anyway

[karmic saddle]

but this is for NFS builds

[surreal osprey]

I FORGOT OKAY SORRY :/

[simple spruce]

I think he means as in these are more popular so they won't go as far as to include the similar 3rd model either

And to be fair, even the R32 wasn't in NFS games until NFS Shift

[surreal osprey]

Correct

[simple spruce]

And even with Shift

its only apperances were in Shift, Shift 2, 2015, payback, heat and Unbound

Oh wait I think the Run had it too

[karmic saddle]

wasn't in Shift 1

Nissan Presents: Over Drivin' GT-R and Nissan Presents: Over Drivin' Skyline Memorial (Japanese localized versions of The Need For Speed), NFS World, Shift 2, The Run, 2015, Payback, Heat and Unbound

[simple spruce]

My bad then

[simple spruce]

Yeah I do remmeber the japanese version of the old NFS preasents game being very different

Mainly having GTRs than anything

[karmic saddle]

to be honest if Shift 2 didn't have that retro category it probably wouldn't be in it

[surreal osprey]

I find it suprising how people still talk about shift 2

[exotic parcel]

someone took that a little too literal

[simple spruce]

that is true

But hey, it's good to have it regarldess

Shift 2 was one of the last games overall to include alot of the cars we used to see in the older games

[exotic parcel]

The R33 and Kenmeri aren't in NFS because they're the least cared for.

[karmic saddle]

oh yeah, wouldn't have had the FC RX-7 in the game either

[simple spruce]

We don't get to see stuff like the Cobalt in new games anymore

[surreal osprey]

Its sad to be honest and i hate it

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Not really

[simple spruce]

it's just how NFS is to be honest

[exotic parcel]

Every series is gonna have it's least popular entries

[surreal osprey]

Yes really the r33 is better than the other 2

[simple spruce]

Their games work based on the cars which work for the time and are popular

It's not like Gran Turismo or Forza

[surreal osprey]

The r35 still dominates

[simple spruce]

Where they get teh right to include as many cars as they can

[exotic parcel]

It has a better time on nords but that could have just been because it was driven by a better driver

[surreal osprey]

Fair

[simple spruce]

And it still argued whether if the Nurbergring time for the R34 is even legit or not

Considering it is slwoer than the Cobalt SS

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I mean the Cobalt SS was also faster than the GT-R

[surreal osprey]

Even still i do not care for the other 2 since they are rarely rare to see or use

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so would that make it a much better car than it?

[surreal osprey]

They are everywhere to be honest

They probably didnt want to care enough for other models

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R33s were overrated in Japan when they dropped it if it makes you feel any better about it, to the R33 fans

[surreal osprey]

Overrated?? Thats bullshit but understandable since they were used back then by everyone

Nah the r34 is overrated

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It was like one of the most popular cars among Japanese street racers

[surreal osprey]

Its even more used than the r33

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Even Mid Night had a fuckton of them

[surreal osprey]

It is true but i also wonder if that happend to with the r32

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Probably

The GT-R is one of the best cars of the J-Muscle variety

[karmic saddle]

a Kenmeri would be nice but it sounds like a load of hassle since you're trying to scan a car they only made 197 of and probably don't have many existing

[surreal osprey]

Also one of the most selling cars in japan

Or was it with subaru and toyota?

[simple spruce]

Yeah it was barely enough to GT to wanna bother

and that's GT

They do everything

[surreal osprey]

Damn

So also what about the 400R?

[simple spruce]

The nismos?

They are just special versions of already top trim cars

[karmic saddle]

since it was basically C10 parts in a different body I don't think there was much of a difference between the C10 and the C110 anyway

[simple spruce]

You can't really go around including those as separate cars in the same gsme

Without pulling a GT4

[surreal osprey]

Fair

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They're the best of the best obviously

[surreal osprey]

Ikr

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Z-Tune is the best R34, 400R I think is the best R33/V37

[simple spruce]

Of course, if it's in small numbers

You can definitely have a few

Forza Motosport 4 had a few pre-tuned cars

Mugen Honda Civic, Mines R34, Top secret S15

[karmic saddle]

ah yes...Mine's

[simple spruce]

But that is Forza

[karmic saddle]

Subaru Impreza WRX STi with multi-story spoiler

[simple spruce]

And those cars' parts should have been carried over to the standard cars in the games anyway

[surreal osprey]

And forza might not be 100 accurate

[simple spruce]

But sadly Forza devs are too lazy for it

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Unbound has done it already anyways

[surreal osprey]

For todays motorsport yep

[simple spruce]

hehe, yeah that was a funny one

[exotic parcel]

With the Balmain Emira and Bozo Z

They could add cars and then have special versions sold in the custom cars category

[simple spruce]

yeah Unbound needs to include the body mods for those models if it can
which it does sometimes do

[surreal osprey]

Thought everyone liked the fairlady Z

Lol

[exotic parcel]

cough unparallelled

[simple spruce]

The z-tune kit, the Bee-R kit

Even includes the top trim evo x parts

[karmic saddle]

is that the one with the stupid heart shaped exhausts?

[surreal osprey]

I was hoping for something better than a godamn another big populair japanese car.....

[surreal osprey]

Yes and i do not like it

[karmic saddle]

I don't even have the game and I hated the look of that thing

[simple spruce]

Yeah I hate Bosozoku in general

[surreal osprey]

Youre lucky that you dont have to see that ugly thing

[simple spruce]

I get why the game has it

And it is still mucb more mild compared to alot of real life's bosozoku builds

But good lord it ain't a good look

it's such an acquired taste

[karmic saddle]

to be honest I didn't think it was that big

[surreal osprey]

I honestly wished nfs would have added the Volkswagen Golf A7 R400 instead of an another japanese car....

Its like the world only cares about those cars

[simple spruce]

There are alot of cars I would like to see in Unbound, as I am sure many others do too

But we gotta accept that certain things can't happen

[exotic parcel]

reminder the first car to enter was a maybach

[simple spruce]

Like I would really like to see the VW Golf GTI Mk5 come back

but that was a car of the era

Popular during its time and trendy enough to be in games

it's not anymore, so we don't get it anymore

it is a popular car IRL and certain games can still include them

[surreal osprey]

A maybach yeah nice? I mean its something different but come on when in the world will they ever add a 4 door or atleast a different new golf??

[exotic parcel]

If they did end up adding it it could just be added as an R32

[simple spruce]

But NFS has always relied on the trendy cars that they include with some exceptions here and there

[exotic parcel]

Since we already have two GTis

[surreal osprey]

I still hate where many racing games only come up with a ugly 2 door gold gti like with many mobile games too

[simple spruce]

Indeed, with body parts to make it the GTI if tehy want

[surreal osprey]

I always see that 2015 golf gti its too common

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????

[surreal osprey]

I see you didnt experience it before

But thats fine

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games typically go with the modern car

[surreal osprey]

Ik but thats not what i meant

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and there's usually a certain trim they go for

[surreal osprey]

But thats the only golf i always see in many racing game as ther low and slow car instead of bringing a different golf like one with 4 doors instead of 2

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4 doors are just worse lmao

You're talking about racing games

[simple spruce]

yeah racing games tend to not include many 4 door cars at all

let alone 4 door versions

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if they have coupe options they're gonna add that

[simple spruce]

Indeed

Or if the sedan is very popular

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if it's a sedan exclusively then it'll just be that

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yes

[simple spruce]

Inded

It's really simple with it

[karmic saddle]

seems a bit pointless going for the heavier 4 or 5 door when you have the lighter 3 door

[exotic parcel]

unless its like

crazy taxi ofc

[karmic saddle]

or that Mercedes "4 door coupe"

[simple spruce]

hehe, in which case you include a custom convertible model

[surreal osprey]

but looks good tho not all 2 doors especially that golf 2 door are ugly seen them way to much

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opinionated

[simple spruce]

Nyan

[surreal osprey]

well said

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I think I'll use this bumper for once

[simple spruce]

It looks rather nice

[surreal osprey]

Agreed

I wonder how the car will look like in the end

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Oh I forgot to share the build lol

I’ll do that later

[tropic basalt]

NGL

the infinity is based AF

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What can I say

I love all Skylines

[simple spruce]

It's indeed a gooden

This model especially

It's a very top trim model however

Hard to afford

But still, sensible given everything it can do and it comes with

[surreal osprey]

Not really i like the Q5 more

A 4 door looking sport car

[simple spruce]

As you wish

[exotic parcel]

Of course you do

The Skyline isn’t a sports car though

[tropic basalt]

I think the Infiniti is long past the Skyline rebadged

[exotic parcel]

It still is

It’s just that the Skyline got a facelift

The Q didn’t

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Oh boy

I get the desire to play Carbon yet again

I'm about to re-experience the best Need for Speed again.

[worn birch]

Have fun

[simple spruce]

Can you elaborate on that?

I am not sure what that means

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The Skyline got a facelift and the Q50/60 didn’t I don’t think

[simple spruce]

Cause I am not fully well indulged in the whole "Infinti skyline" matter

[simple spruce]

But aren't those, the Q50 and Q60, also Skylines back in Japan?

[exotic parcel]

Yes

But the Japanese Skyline got a facelift

[simple spruce]

I suppose it was done on purpose, in order to give the car more of a Skyline feel

Because the R35 is the lineage of the skyline GTRs and it has that large grille

So they gave a similarly style grilled to the actual skyline model

[surreal osprey]

Yes this is what i mean wait i meant Q50 not 5 lmao

[simple spruce]

Goddamn, pretty cool build you got going already

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Challenge series

[simple spruce]

Oh nice then

[exotic parcel]

Okay we need to cancel Black Box

They used….

RE-USED ASSETS

I saw a taco shop sign that was clearly from Underground 2, how disgraceful😱

[simple spruce]

hahaha

That sort of thing certainly was alot more excusable back then

But seriously, if it's just for stuff like this it's really fine

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Man I fucking hate it when Neville steals my thunder 😭

Always rubberbanding at the very end

[surreal osprey]

Then be a hero and ram them

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Sal being a huge fan of player kinda supports my Underground theory

[simple spruce]

it does work yeah

Sal is rather funny to be honest

[worn birch]

Pretty sure ghost and criterion have also re used assets to make their maps

[simple spruce]

Everyone does

[exotic parcel]

Every game series does it

[simple spruce]

Indeed

[simple spruce]

Looking prertty nice

[simple spruce]

A very very nice look

[shadow karma]

@lament musk since u seem to like this car lol

[exotic parcel]

Yeah I think it is just Heat

I went back to 2015 and MW and they look gorgeous

I think Heat just looks terrible

Almost like Payback

But only almost

[surreal osprey]

Bmw for lifee

[surreal osprey]

Well the other garage where you go with Ana and her brother is cool imo

[exotic parcel]

Two words

Film grain.

[surreal osprey]

Oh you too that doesnt know hes name?😂

[karmic saddle]

Wasn’t it Marcus?

[surreal osprey]

Luca

Luka or Lucas

Whatever it is

Same thing just with a K

[surreal osprey]

Give me a break

[shadow karma]

not bad

looks alright

[simple spruce]

Yeah i don't know what happened

[surreal osprey]

i still dont know sorry mate😟

[surreal osprey]

i like what you did there but never like this civic compared to the newer version

[lament musk]

huh

[shadow karma]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-awkward-funny-what-huh-gif-15728222

[exotic parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/serial-experiments-lain-lain-iwakura-lol-gif-19242523

By the way one of these guys offer you a test drive, what’s your pick?

[twilit hound]

lyric

[shadow karma]

medusa probably

[fossil dune]

Medusa but all good nonetheless imo

[simple spruce]

Hmm..

all seem rather good

It's a bit of a hard choice

Shimizu is giving me heavy Ryo Watanbe vibes though

[steel wing]

Either Shimizu or Medusa.

[exotic parcel]

Asian racing legend from the 2000s, checks out tbf

[surreal osprey]

Shimizu always!!!

But lyric... He got a fantastic 600LT hard to choose too

[simple spruce]

Hehe, Indeed. I am glad you see it

Just his car of choice

he's definitely inspired by Ryo

Both even wear hoodies hehe

[exotic parcel]

Only difference is Shimizu isn’t a massive asshole

Just annoyingly fast

[simple spruce]

Well he doesn't talk much

Or at all

I don't think these AI drivers have any lines or anything

[exotic parcel]

The AI drivers speak throughout races, especially if you bet against them

[simple spruce]

So we wouldn't really know whether if he is an asshole or not

[simple spruce]

what do his lines include?

[exotic parcel]

He shits on you if you drive like shit, talks kinda wise like, and will praise your skill if you’re doing good

He was Rydell’s prodigy racer before you came around

One thing he says iirc is “I see why Rydell puts his faith in you”

[simple spruce]

Ahh, so he was the racing legend before you huh

[exotic parcel]

Yeah

[simple spruce]

he is essentially the main racer in the game

Besides you

The one to beat

[simple spruce]

Yeah that's definitely a step above Ryo's over confident self

Though in all fairness, if you do listen to him talk throughout every showdown you do

he does slowly but surely become less of an asshole overall

[exotic parcel]

Yeah

He sees you as some punk but kinda just

Recognizes your skill but refuses to admit it i guess?

[simple spruce]

best noticed is when you beat his racers. when you beat Joe Tackett in the first showdown, he denies whether if it was Joe's skills which let him down and it was some fault with his car

and when you beat Takeshi Sato he does also deny but to a lesser degree

but when you start beating Ivan and Paul in the Super promotion events, when he gets asked about their defeats, Ryo puts the blame on the drivers and not the cars or track conditions

Saying things like "he's embarrassed me and I;m gonna have to asnwer some hard questions because of him. I'll definitely be talking to him later"

[simple spruce]

I think Ryo recognized your potential right from the first entry race when he saw Ryan

[exotic parcel]

Oh yeah

[simple spruce]

Like he realized this man is actually capable of coming all the way to the top to challange me

so he tries to intimidate him when he can, belittle him

[exotic parcel]

Ryan was dominating dday theres no shot he didn’t realize

[simple spruce]

Definitely

Ryo is a seasoned racer

He's been through exactly everything Ryan has been through

Him, much like Shimizu, recognizes skill when he sees it

he just wants to not admit it because he's gotten used to be the one at the top

Uncontested, unchallenged

[exotic parcel]

I do think Ryo is one of the better villains because of that, he’s the big man so he has to act like it. But it’s not so hard to tell that he does see you out there.

Makes for a fun final race when you’ve finally surpassed him, I bet he would have been proud

[simple spruce]

Indeed. It's the reason why I've grown to like Prostreet even more. Rewatching alot of the cutscenes does show that

The story isn't so cut and dry

[simple spruce]

He, not unreasonably, has grown very attached to his position as the showdown king

When you're at the top with the announcers always shouting your name and magazines and CDs and everyone wanting you

Your ego definitely inflates

he's very skilled, but it's hard to think about not being at the top when you're so used to it

[exotic parcel]

Come to think of it I’m sure player didn’t have that

Since he was constantly humbled

Having his GTR fucked up and Rockport not really giving a shit

[simple spruce]

so by teasing and mocking Ryan cooper, he for one tries to intimidate him for him to not be able to compete in the later stages by having lost his confidence

but he does also recognize his skill when he keeps pushing through

Going from "pains me watching him race" to "You know this Ryan cooper guy may actually be alright"

"Super promotion events are for the top leagues. Let's see how long he lasts"

he is now not just intimidated, but also challenging Ryan to prove himself even better

[simple spruce]

Yeah The player in UG1 and 2 was always belittled and even as a top racer couldn't do much"

if it is the same guy in MW and Carbon and maybe even Undercover

Then yeah he is constantly getting humbled

[exotic parcel]

Even if it isn’t I realize that they’re still connected regardless

[simple spruce]

By friends and foes alike

[exotic parcel]

All because of Undercover

[simple spruce]

yeah there's alot connecting them

All of the events leading to Undercover

[exotic parcel]

Like Payback, Undercover connects almost every other NFS together

[simple spruce]

Undercover is where it all peaks

Where your skill is absolutely recognized by those who you race for

being the FBI and such

[exotic parcel]

Which means 2015/Heat are indirectly connected to Payback

[simple spruce]

I mean heat may be connected to 2015 given ventura city is mentioned, but I don't know if it has any relation to payback or not. There's not anything connecting them

[exotic parcel]

Because 2015/Heat are connected to Underground and Payback is connected to MW

MW and Underground are connected therefore 2015/Heat and Payback are too

[simple spruce]

Payback at the end did mention the blacklist, the showdown king and the run and such

And did include Cross

[exotic parcel]

Indeed

[simple spruce]

So it's maybe that they are connected

But it's hard to tell honstly

[exotic parcel]

Undercover

[simple spruce]

Like more than any game Payback throws references to MW and Carbon

[exotic parcel]

Rose Largo personally knew Rachel

Officially

[simple spruce]

They did?

[exotic parcel]

Yes

Ryan Cooper is arrested so that covers ProStreet and G-Mac used to work with Cross covering MW and Carbon

Eddie is in 2015 and The Run, the Blacklist, and Aki Kimura and (indirectly mentioned) Ryo Watanabe exist in Payback

So Heat/2015 are connected to Payback

Assuming the M3 GTR was fixed again after Heat and shipped to Lakeshore, that would also connect Unbound

[simple spruce]

and if we wanna go by names, Payback's final race did include Cooper's name

[exotic parcel]

I do think Heat’s M3 is the real deal

[simple spruce]

yeah it is to be honest

For one, it's the only one which looks and sounds like the car from Carbon and MW

And we do see a charred M3 GTR in the chop shop cutscene

So it was likely recovered from there and fixed

[exotic parcel]

The two-seat M3 in Unbound could be explained in two different ways, practical and canonical: respectively it was basically for delivery missions but it’s not really doable anyways, and whoever fixed it basically threw in a second seat just because

[simple spruce]

Oh the Unbound car has the 2nd seat?

it's probably doable to be honest

[exotic parcel]

Yeah

You could very well use it for driver delivery missions but it’s not available in SP so it’s kinda weird there but storywise it can be explained rather simply

[simple spruce]

Cause the m3 GTR from MW, Carbon and Payback aren't the legit race car. The interior is obviously just a standard interior with extra tat and rollcage and racing seat and such inspired by the real car. I think the original MW even had 2 seats for the car

So it'd be easy to just install a second seat

[simple spruce]

We don't really know whether if it's in the game canonically or not, could just be like Payback when it was included for the sake of a reference

[exotic parcel]

Thing is that they do hint at Razor’s return

Yaz (or player i forgor 💀) mention they feel they’re on the “razor’s edge” after the car is delivered to an anonymous customer simply named “blacklist”

[simple spruce]

well damn

This is getting interesting

Could be either a mention to the player from MW and Carbon and such

Or a reference to Razor

who knows, maybe we'll see Razor's return in whatever follows suit Unbound

It would be kinda neat, though I would prefer him to drive his old Mustang rather than the M3

And I don't mean a recreation of his old mustang, I mean his mustang properly

[exotic parcel]

Oh yeah

Though I’m sure it’d make more sense for him to use the M3

[simple spruce]

The 2005 Mustang GT

[exotic parcel]

He loved that car a ton to be willing to cheat for it

[simple spruce]

I guess it would make sense in that regard

[exotic parcel]

Not even giving up the keys at the end

[simple spruce]

But it's just that it's not his car

It's not his design, there's nothing taht says it is him

[exotic parcel]

You know the Mercer theory, right?

It’s honestly a little sad but it’s only a theory

[simple spruce]

The one that states how Mercer is the player from the MW and Carbon?

[exotic parcel]

Yes

[simple spruce]

I've heard it, and it does kinda make sense

Like I can see it being the case

[exotic parcel]

For a recap, Player goes to Tri-City Bay and goes undercover to clear his name since he’s the most wanted street racer and all

At the end of Undercover you’re told by the big man who’s name I don’t know lmao something among the lines of “I know what it’s like to be deep undercover, it’s hard to remember who you once were”

[simple spruce]

Oh yeah I remember that

A pretty cool line, and it does foreshadow what would happen

[surreal osprey]

People think that Mercer was the guy that drove the M3 GTR in MW05 and Carbon just because he drove it in Heat

[exotic parcel]

That could probably end up being player as well, unable to go back to being a street racer like old times he continued as a cop and was so good he was stationed out to Redview and became F8

The trauma of Rivals as you would know lmao

[simple spruce]

F8 did seem too good to be a cop so it does make sense

[exotic parcel]

The trauma leads him to become corrupt when he moves to Palm City, boosting cars he impounds with his rogue unit

If that was true then player would have met a sad fate

If not then fuck knows where he is by 2024

[surreal osprey]

And then the story keeps changing in every nfs game

[exotic parcel]

It doesn’t keep changing, time simply just goes on

[simple spruce]

It's not unlikely for that to be the case

[surreal osprey]

But you think the player was Mercer in MW05 and Carbon

[exotic parcel]

Nah

It’s only a theory

It’s not because Mercer drives the M3, that could just be the theory I made that player brought it with him to Tri-City and forgot it

Someone found it and moved it next town over to Palm City and Mercer confiscated it

[surreal osprey]

True

[exotic parcel]

The Player Mercer theory is “Player is Mercer because of Undercover”

[surreal osprey]

Yeah

[exotic parcel]

He’s so deep in the policing he keeps going and eventually goes on long enough that he becomes the villain

[simple spruce]

if not mercer himself who found it

[surreal osprey]

Yeah

[exotic parcel]

With that theory, Rivals is then canon to the NFS universe

[surreal osprey]

Yeah

[exotic parcel]

My only problem is Undercover would take place about 8 or 9 years before Heat

[surreal osprey]

But you think Razor will return in new nfs games

[surreal osprey]

True yeah

[exotic parcel]

He’ll return in Unbound

[surreal osprey]

Well we saw the cameo

But would he return as like a new campaign or what exactly

[exotic parcel]

It’s just a matter of time before we see if Criterion pulls through with it

[simple spruce]

Story expansion?

[exotic parcel]

Definitely a story expansion if anything

[simple spruce]

hmm..

I don't know man

[surreal osprey]

Hope so

I wish breaking bad was in nfs

[simple spruce]

Chalk it up to me being generally low on hope for Unbound

but I don't see them coming out with a story expansion

[surreal osprey]

I want nfs and breaking bad

[simple spruce]

need for weed

[surreal osprey]

Yea i want that game rn

But i kind of want a sequel to payback idk why

(Even tho i hate payback with a passion)

[simple spruce]

If they put thier ass into it

Any kind of game would be good

[surreal osprey]

But what you think the story would be for payback 2

If it did happen

[simple spruce]

Be it payback, Shift, Nitro or anything

well it doesn't have to be necessarily connected to payback 1

[surreal osprey]

Well yeah i know

[simple spruce]

At least not directly

[surreal osprey]

But what you think what story will it be

[simple spruce]

So it's a bit difficult to tell really

[surreal osprey]

Or something like that

[simple spruce]

But if they would wanna continue off of it

Payback did leave on a bit of a cliffhanger with the whole Arkwright thing that the gambler apparently wanted to get into

[surreal osprey]

Yeah

[simple spruce]

So they could build on that

[surreal osprey]

Yeah

But would Mac and etc come back obviously

[exotic parcel]

Both Heat and Payback had cliffhangers I feel like

[surreal osprey]

Thats true

Plus Torres at the end felt like she was gonna be a corrupted one

And payback aswell had that

[simple spruce]

Heat no doubt had a plan for some sort of expansion

[surreal osprey]

But of course ghost was like

[simple spruce]

with the contant notes made about Torres and Shaw and such

[surreal osprey]

Nah fuck this game

And disappeared

[simple spruce]

They were dead though

[viscid fjord]

You're a cliffhanger

[surreal osprey]

True but still

[simple spruce]

They were closed right after Heat was published

[surreal osprey]

Oh

[simple spruce]

We just got the news way later

[surreal osprey]

I just wish nfs heat did more updates

Or criterion or whatever it is now came back to nfs heat to do updates

[exotic parcel]

I dunno about Heat but an Arkwright expansion for Unbound would probably work

[simple spruce]

Yeah it definitely could work

[viscid fjord]

Sharkwright

[simple spruce]

I wouldn't mind it at all

Since Arkwright seems so unusual for NFS standards

So they could go to town with it and give us something fully unique

[surreal osprey]

I miss Tyler Morgan

[exotic parcel]

NFS Arena mode when

[simple spruce]

What would that be like?

[exotic parcel]

No idea

I just know they had that IP around Payback’s lifetime

Heat also had crew battles

[simple spruce]

What, Arena mode is an IP?

[exotic parcel]

So yeah

NFS Arenas was an IP of theirs yes

Or a trademark I forget

[simple spruce]

Which were so under utilized

[simple spruce]

I didn't know actually

[surreal osprey]

If it only came true...

That would be still pretty dope

[exotic parcel]

I think Speedlists are coming to Unbound but I forget where I got that information

If I had to guess, it would be like Most Wanted’s

With races AND challenges

[surreal osprey]

Speedlists oh damn thats even better i hope ur right

[simple spruce]

I thought they were already in the game

[exotic parcel]

Race playlists

[simple spruce]

So the only thing in MP you can do now is just grip racing?

[exotic parcel]

Not exactly Speedlists

[simple spruce]

That's a bit of a bummer

[surreal osprey]

True

[exotic parcel]

Speedlists I assume would be like Most Wanted instead since they already have playlists for racing

Maybe it’ll be like Forza’s arcade thingy

[surreal osprey]

I do hope not for being simulair as forza

[simple spruce]

the idea itself would fine

just not executed like Forza hopefully

[simple spruce]

I hope they release it in the next update

[exotic parcel]

Maybe

Who knows

[simple spruce]

Unbound could always use more exposure and content

[exotic parcel]

I should do an nfs story tier list

When I get home

[simple spruce]

It may be hard when some games don't have a story

like Porsche unleashed and such

so I guess you'd include the ones which do have a story

[exotic parcel]

Indeed

Apparently MW12 is canon @simple spruce

I can’t confirm it but apparently Payback’s gambler mentions Fairhaven

or Rav

[simple spruce]

Hmm.. MW12 being canon..

That raises more questions to be honest

Because of the game being so strange

the missions having those LSD driven moments

it makes me feel like Most wanted is a racer's fantasy

[exotic parcel]

Could support the NL theory, but what would be weird is the M3 is DLC

[simple spruce]

Or like, what a child thinks illegal racing is like

[simple spruce]

Well the car isn't the same

[exotic parcel]

But it’s the only other NFS to have an actual M3 race car despite it using 6 banger noise

[simple spruce]

it does also include some other cars

the Underground cars, the Undercover Rose Porsche and the Hot pursuit diablo

But I doubt the whole thing is meant to be canon

The game is canon as much as the fact that the place exists

but not whatever is happening in it

[exotic parcel]

Fair

Pun intended

[simple spruce]

Cause it just makes no sense in context for such a place to exist with those cutscenes and expensive cars thrown around in the place

[simple spruce]

hehe, of course it is

[exotic parcel]

I think of MW and HP10 more as examples of how some cities are in NFS

[karmic saddle]

forgot I had this hidden away somewhere

[exotic parcel]

@simple spruce i got it

Fairhaven may exist canonically but Most Wanted itself is merely exemplifying the concept that Blacklists aren’t a Rockport only thing

So basically with or without NL, blacklists were still a thing around the country

Including Fairhaven

[exotic parcel]

What are your thoughts on our conversation?

[karmic wolf]

I haven't read it

[exotic parcel]

Please do so

I think you’ll find our theories quite interesting

[simple spruce]

it works well as an idea for that

[simple spruce]

yeah that makes sense, taht works

[simple spruce]

That looks really cool

I love that livery

I can never hope to be able to create anything as nice looking as that

[simple spruce]

This car is honestly a cheater car

it's only 30k and it's a tier 3 top of the line AWD machine

it's super unfair

and it gets unlocked when you do the first showdown

[exotic parcel]

I don’t even think it’s that great

[worldly sparrow]

Castration imminent

[exotic parcel]

Compared to the likes of Porsche or most muscle cars

[karmic wolf]

From where do i start it's kinda long

[worldly sparrow]

✂️

[simple spruce]

for the price you pay for it, it's absolutely amazing

it's got AWD, it can get to 1000 HP

[worldly sparrow]

🥚🥚

And now

🍳

[simple spruce]

and it's a car you can win in a challenge

For more tahn that

[worldly sparrow]

Meh

[karmic wolf]

Thanks man

[exotic parcel]

This was the start of it so I’d say here

[simple spruce]

you can buy the Mustang GT which has got more HP but it's also not as good of a racer

This is also good for speed

[simple spruce]

nooooo

why would you do that

[exotic parcel]

Starts off about Ryo Watanabe and how he’s one of the best NFS rival characters but then goes on about he whole NFS universe as a whole pretty much

[worldly sparrow]

Cos this convo mid

[simple spruce]

😔

now I'm saaaad

[exotic parcel]

Shush we’re just dorks smh smh

Now Nim Nim is sad 😭

[worldly sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-ok-meme-gif-21668690

[exotic parcel]

[karmic saddle]

this one was for the speed stuff

[simple spruce]

😔

[simple spruce]

Yeah you win one from the Super promotion's first challenge

You can get either that or the Viper

Frankly more worth it to get the Viper because the R34 is so cheap to get from the car lot

[exotic parcel]

That $30k could go into the free R34 though

[simple spruce]

30K is nothing thouugh

Especually since upgrades for tier 3 cars are expensive

You'd spend more than 30k on stage 3 engine alone

[exotic parcel]

Plus it comes with the widebody

So you’re saving $45k to put into upgrades, which it already comes with some

[simple spruce]

I guess so

But the Viper is even more expensive

and also comes with upgrades

And is a great Speed and Drag car

and let's be real

if you're at Super promotion and you haven't got at least 300k

Then you're never gonna be making wise business choices anyway

I have got 150k from battlemachine alone

AT LEAST

[karmic saddle]

that's what I did

[exotic parcel]

I got jailed for my crime in general 😭

[simple spruce]

hahaha

Goddamn

taht took a wild turn

[worldly sparrow]

THE

[exotic parcel]

They did something about it

[worldly sparrow]

HOW

What is

[exotic parcel]

No idea but hi ditto

[worldly sparrow]

I will take away your ability to write like Blitzwing took Bumblebees ability to speak

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-bumblebee-movie-lets-make-it-official-gif-16523131

[exotic parcel]

Oi I get that I shared nsfw but it was funny

and I’m willing to do it again

[simple spruce]

pfft

[worldly sparrow]

@exotic parcel good luck

[simple spruce]

terifying

[exotic parcel]

LMAOOOOOO

[worldly sparrow]

@simple spruce this what I do to you but travel destination is your buttox

[simple spruce]

Oh shit!

That's gonna hurt!

[worldly sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sas-evil-gif-26310062

[simple spruce]

pfft

The perfect gif for the situation

[karmic wolf]

what should i put on this wrap

[exotic parcel]

decals

[karmic wolf]

Something more specific if possible

[surreal osprey]

Damnn i cant believe its been that long i finally managed to get back on heat

Man i miss this game tbh no effects no stupid crash cams actual good cops(compared with unbound) and the better exhaust flames

[twilit hound]

yes

i want ea to update heat for next gen consoles

but they will never

[surreal osprey]

Ikr

[surreal osprey]

You put drag tires?

What setup you have on the rsr

@surreal osprey

[surreal osprey]

Its on race tires i think

Yes this is the op build of the rsr

@surreal osprey

Also has 1x15 nos

Okay

What about the tires, live tune

Steering on one to the right and downforce 2 to the right

Thats how i find it good

Okay

Thanks

Np

If anything else just ask

[twilit hound]

nice paint

[surreal osprey]

Thx

Its my allmighty blue rsr

[worn birch]

What was I doing?

Didn’t come out right

[fossil dune]

At the same time

I'm glad that it's not a Z4 build due to that

but the fact it's a BRZ....

I'm really unsure about this

It feels kinda' right yet wrong at the same time

[simple spruce]

It's I guess only slightly off and thats due to the car not being quite right

[fossil dune]

Yeah

[simple spruce]

Maybe try and do the black underside on the toy too

[steel wing]

I wish we can use that wing in Unbound for the BRZ, but they stopped using it after Heat.

I'm talking about the wing on the hot wheels.

[worn birch]

I remember that

I’ll try again some other time, cuz I’m losing any motivation to play unbound

[worn birch]

Why did I think about a one 77

[exotic parcel]

The bumper probably

Actually maybe not

[worn birch]

Either that or I’m stupid

[simple spruce]

Damn, It's so rare to see Aston builds but this is really cool

That body looks extra wide however

Did they port the Widebody from the DB11 Volante Black market car onto the Coupe as well?

Cause I don't recalll the DB11 having those rear arches

[exotic parcel]

Like the 911 Turbo, the normal DB11 had the kit available for it, the wing even fitting the coupe roof

but unfortunately they didn't make it available in Unbound, probably just an oversight

[tropic basalt]

not like anyone uses the car anyway

[exotic parcel]

yeah

But I'mma use mine :D

and I'm still aiming to unlock the 911 Turbo

If the Carrera and GT3/GT2s are good cars, I don't see why the Turbo wouldn't be

My current goals are the 911 Turbo, E46 M3, and Viper

[tropic basalt]

the Turbo would have a better launch and accel Id imagine

[exotic parcel]

naturally yeah

[tropic basalt]

awd does that lmao

[exotic parcel]

naturally yeah

[simple spruce]

That sucks

[simple spruce]

Had the Aston been a model of an older generation, it certainly would have gathered alot more attention

The DB11, both in real life and in games, is not subject to attention from anyone

At least not from the car nuts

[exotic parcel]

Another challenge series car

and another, this one I will recreate in Unbound actually

[simple spruce]

This is slightly strange

[simple spruce]

I definitely remember this far however

The car is so large

It doesn't fit in thr frame of the 3rd person camera

The bodykits for the muscle cars in Carbon really transformed the car

[surreal osprey]

Im sad that you cant buy papis camaro in nfs heat (yes you can get mods for it)

[exotic parcel]

Literally a blower and nothing else

[simple spruce]

The blower is the problem.

[paper granite]

is there supposed to be a testarossa in A class

wrong chat nvm lol

[exotic parcel]

its fine here

but yeah, the Testa is A+ off the lot

[paper granite]

oh

some guy had it for one race then the next race he was in a evo 10

[exotic parcel]

probably just switched out

[paper granite]

can anyone tell me how

[exotic parcel]

The 993?

That car is B tier from stock lmao

[paper granite]

I mean how did i win

[exotic parcel]

oh

Charger is a good car

[paper granite]

😭 guess my Saul plate was a good luck charm

[exotic parcel]

Like Carbon, it's fast but handles like you'd expect it to

But know how to drive it and it's a very solid car

[paper granite]

no wonder it felt so much like a Carbon race

any form of straight with no brakes required turns and i was cookin

[paper granite]

mind you Tread Water is mainly curves

never thought I’d see myself with 400k on unbound oh heavens

they fixed the economy and the traffic seems more dense

(and yes, i had to do it)

[worn birch]

Saul

[exotic parcel]

I’ve made up to like

$940k iirc

In Vol.1

[paper granite]

💀

[worn birch]

In every lobby I’m in, skyline players are so the dirtiest players

[worn birch]

Wow

[paper granite]

how much hours

[exotic parcel]

I mean I just played the game lmao

Plus level rewards pay you handsomely

But now I have over 500

[paper granite]

for me it’s new people using loaner cars

and literally everyone else blocking you just before a corner

[worn birch]

For me it’s always those in a skyline

[paper granite]

actually i have a funny clip on what me and a guy did to a rammer

[exotic parcel]

Dude the irony of that is I was in a race, my Foxbody, an R34, an Evo who left, and a Charger who just AFK’d

But then there were 4 loaner S13s who were all clean

[worn birch]

lol

[exotic parcel]

But yeah meta drivers are the dirtiest usually

The NFS equivalent of GTA try-hards

[paper granite]

beforehand he was ramming anyone that tried passing him so uhhh, just had to make use of the R34 as the supporting pit

[paper granite]

what’s meta for A+?

just wondering

[exotic parcel]

Hmmm

Testarossa, Golf, Exige

Evo

WRX

[worn birch]

R34

[exotic parcel]

R34

Uhhhh

Pretty much any Porsche

[paper granite]

my rx8 comes close but it’s ungodly unstable

like if you burst nitro on a uneven turn good luck

[exotic parcel]

RX8, S14, and 350Z are solid but they’re unstable

[paper granite]

yup

[worn birch]

M1 is also decent in A+

But it is very grippy

[paper granite]

in a queue

found one skyline and a pananera

[exotic parcel]

Never actually tried the M1

The DB11 isn’t bad in A+

Porsche Panera bread

[paper granite]

i was first but i clipped a car going for a very risky split

both the GTRs are rammers

[exotic parcel]

Yeah it happens

[paper granite]

saw them trying to ram for first

[exotic parcel]

Wanna play actually?

[paper granite]

I wrecked on the highway race 😭

but sure

[exotic parcel]

Tag?

[paper granite]

try typing in Hxpocrisy

[exotic parcel]

alr

[paper granite]

joined

@exotic parcel

[exotic parcel]

cool cool

[paper granite]

[exotic parcel]

was in an endurance race lol

[paper granite]

oh

still getting used to this ui lol

[exotic parcel]

you out in about?

someone is gonna start an S tier playlist

[paper granite]

joined

[exotic parcel]

nvm I accidentally declined 💀

[paper granite]

mkay lol

backed out

[exotic parcel]

what tier do you wanna do

[paper granite]

me realizing i have to farm tier A for a mustang

hmmm should i farm tier b for the ability to buy hellcats or farm A for the stang

try tier A

[exotic parcel]

I'm down for either

I am grinding to upgrade this Cayman so it's set up for A tier

[paper granite]

oo

[exotic parcel]

actually nvm I'mma replace it with a BMW lol

[paper granite]

also my ping is prone to phantom PIT in the turns

@exotic parcel join the wick one?

[exotic parcel]

ye

[paper granite]

aaand i bumped decline 💀

[exotic parcel]

damn

ill dip

S tier?

wait nvm i got an a car now

damn this took foreveer

[paper granite]

@exotic parcel was in a endurance race

[exotic parcel]

alright

[paper granite]

in freeroam

[exotic parcel]

im ready when you are

[paper granite]

o

lemme look for a meetup with A class

[exotic parcel]

this car is terrible lmao

imma switch to something else for race 2

[paper granite]

E36 more like drift car lmao

[exotic parcel]

I wish Unbound had the E36

[paper granite]

that white Magnum was in the worst place lol

[exotic parcel]

Last NFS games to have it were Shift 2 and NL 😭

yeah lmao

[paper granite]

gg, kept trying to go grip in a muscle car lol

[exotic parcel]

Yeah it’s pretty tough

fuck i declined

[paper granite]

oof lemme resend

mfw a server where nobody does A class

[exotic parcel]

Mom called I went to grab some dinner

[paper granite]

o

understandable

[exotic parcel]

You only need to do the last race in that car to get the challenge down

[paper granite]

just the last race?

[exotic parcel]

yeah

[paper granite]

[exotic parcel]

you just need to complete the playlist in whatever car you need to

[paper granite]

9/30 😣

anyways here’s funni prostreet rx8 livery

[exotic parcel]

I unlocked the E46 finally

but I'm working towards the M5 now

ohh nice

lemme grab one of my favorite liveries

[paper granite]

spawn at lake virgil

[exotic parcel]

Mitsuzilla

[paper granite]

might do some more adventurous liveries other than just repaints lol

only one so far being the rx8

[exotic parcel]

I'm still thinking of what to do to the E46

Everytime I build it since after my old M3 GTR from Payback and 2015 was just a metallic green coat of paint

[paper granite]

oh?

we have a third

FOURTH?

[exotic parcel]

hell yeah

[paper granite]

5

muscle car no like that offroad segment lol

[exotic parcel]

my bad

[paper granite]

it’s okay

you literally flew in from out of right field lmao

[exotic parcel]

uhhhh

i think

My computer is fucking up now 💀

[paper granite]

F

imma do one more race and imma call it a night

[exotic parcel]

alrighty

[paper granite]

gn folks

[simple spruce]

Driving in a Charger, very nice

[simple spruce]

It was a pretty decent car back in Heat too

[exotic parcel]

Heat is a drift game tbf

Unbound’s physics are drastically reworked so it’s just not the same

[simple spruce]

I mean that the Charger is a good grip car in Heat too

Oddly not understeering so mhch

And has good acceleration

But yeah the car does excel at drifting in that game

Unbound drifting seems even more inconsistent sadly

[exotic parcel]

Nono, the Charger handles like shit, it just has good acceleration

But yes the drifting is alot similar in the sense that cars are way too grippy

[simple spruce]

It's such a shame to have this struggle honestly

When Payback had some of the best drifting in the entire franchise not 5 years ago

It worked better having separate classes which meant the handling could be diversified

Rather than trying to pull a Forza and it not working

[simple spruce]

Hmm, weird. In Heat it seemed decent for me

[exotic parcel]

Payback’s problem was it was trashy grip

Heat and Unbound suffer from mid drifting

But drifting in Heat and Unbound is probably still better than grip in Payback and 2015

[simple spruce]

I suppose so

But Payback did everything else essentially perfectly

Drifting? Flawless

Drag/speed? Perfect

Runner? Fantastic

Offroad? I'd say it was better than Heat's choppy offroad

And SpeedX? I am not so sure about that one to be honest since I don't think many people played that

Bht yeah when it came to just the grip

It really didn't do well for people's expectations

[exotic parcel]

Drag maybe not

It was pretty much everything but the fun

[simple spruce]

Well, it was drag tuned cars in an open world game

[exotic parcel]

Though they did the sprint races as well it was more frustrating than anything

[simple spruce]

I don't see how else it could have worked

[exotic parcel]

Like ProStreet

[simple spruce]

Prostreet is a closed track game which did do it better to be frank

[exotic parcel]

It coulda worked in an open world setting

[simple spruce]

But given an open world environment, Payback was probably as good as it could have worked

[simple spruce]

Wirh traffic?

[exotic parcel]

With all the hills and slopes Payback had in itself drag races they could have added a sense of danger to it

The simplest thing like totaling your car woulda helped alot too

[simple spruce]

That is a fair point

They did have some of that

I can agree

I think that issue stems from the fact that the game was just not designed for it

They had a map and decided to add a drag spec and make events that happened in the map

[exotic parcel]

Yeah probably

[simple spruce]

Nor parts of the map which were actually designed to make the drag work

Black panthaa did say that the drag cars would have worked better as a speed spec like in Prostreet

[exotic parcel]

Hashtag woulda done it perfectly with a whole race wars theme

[simple spruce]

And to be honest, given the long winding and straight roads, and the cars to be a little more turntable, it could have worked

[simple spruce]

Absolutely

It was even in that poster

[exotic parcel]

They should have added a salt flats area in that empty ass desert lol

[simple spruce]

A camaro and a corvette going at it in a drag strip