Build Posting

[simple spruce]

I can assure you, they won't be adding tehse

[exotic parcel]

but you don't know that

you must've time travelled a couple years ahead if you really know

[simple spruce]

Like they didn't add the Rachel kit, or the Eddy kit, or the Camaro blower, or the Polestar kit

[exotic parcel]

They didn't

doesn't mean they won't

[simple spruce]

if they could have added them by now

Especially seeing the demand

they would have already

[exotic parcel]

here's the thing

adding cut things is a trend in games nowadays

so I don't see why not

[simple spruce]

NOT TO MENTION, what is so hard about making a few handful of kits

Which are already in the game

Playable

it's as simple as fliping a little code

[exotic parcel]

I don't like that NFS is seemingly going down that road potentially

but oh well

[simple spruce]

Doesn't appear to be the case in NFS' case

[exotic parcel]

again

no updates

you dont know that

[simple spruce]

I can highly speculate it

[exotic parcel]

I mean, sure it didn't get some stuff that Heat had

[simple spruce]

Especially when it was such an easy thing for them to add

[exotic parcel]

But it added a ton of stuff that heat was gonna have as well

[simple spruce]

Like what

[exotic parcel]

Hell, the Countach KS kit wasn't even gonna be a fittable bodykit

[simple spruce]

A single Countach kit?

[exotic parcel]

Dude

Every new car in Unbound comes from heat

Same with the E92 kit which was gonna be a black market thing

[simple spruce]

How? Were Eclipse, 190E and S14 considered for heat?

[exotic parcel]

Eclipse and S14 were already scanned and ready to go

[simple spruce]

then why weren't they in the base game

[exotic parcel]

you also had the Countach, the RX-8

Because they were meant to be DLC

But Heat was killed off so they put them in Unbound

[simple spruce]

Surely tehy must have known they would have no chance to release any DLC when tehy knew full well they were gonna be closed down after launch

[exotic parcel]

The Hellcat was gonna be in Heat too

[simple spruce]

The Hellcat is already a thing in heat

[exotic parcel]

The 190E was a possibility but I dunno about that

No it isn't

The Hellcat Charger, not the Challenger

[simple spruce]

Okay

[simple spruce]

I don't buy it

By that logic it means Criterion did jack shit in the 3 years of development

[exotic parcel]

Criterion worked on two whole games lmao

2 years on Unbound, 1 on BF2042

[simple spruce]

They made some bare assiatnces on BF2042

and that was it

[exotic parcel]

Just because they didn't add new new cars doesn't mean shit Nima

[simple spruce]

And even 2 years is too much

if what you say is true

About the models already being ready

[exotic parcel]

Okay then, make a team and make a bigger game in the same amount of time

with the same budget

[simple spruce]

It's not my job to do that

it is theirs

[exotic parcel]

I'm saying try putting yourself in the shoes of the developers

tired because they had to work on these two games

"bare assistance" they were working on the game's vehicles using a dogshit physics engine

and then a racing game right after, on a dogshit engine

[simple spruce]

how is some minor helping on BF2042 considered working on 2 games?

[exotic parcel]

minor because working on the vehicles is so minor yes

[simple spruce]

BF2042 vehicle handlings were far too shit to have been made by them

And they weren't any different from BF4 vehicles

[exotic parcel]

I don't understand it any more than you do but I can at least consider that working on a game takes a fuckton of time, even the small shit

[simple spruce]

Okay i will take a step back and restate i don't know what really goes into game development, but if 3, or even 2 years of game development

Resaults in a game which is bascially just Heat 2.0

I really don't think enough work was put in

[exotic parcel]

You haven't played Unbound Nima

Don't even pull the Heat 2.0 card

Look at Black Box, they did the exact same shit with their games on an even tighter schedule with simpler coding because it was an older time, and their games got progressively worse

[simple spruce]

the drifting seems as miserable as ever, the racing seems about the same as so does the car tuning, with cars which according to you weren't even made by Criterion

[exotic parcel]

Meanwhile Ghost improved on Payback while Criterion improved on Heat

[simple spruce]

I am scarcely finding anything to say

[exotic parcel]

They had a little more time, but with more coding to do, more modelling to do, and still came out with a better game each time

drifting isn't miserable lmao

[simple spruce]

Drifting in Heat is miserable and Unbound seems to follow suit

according to footage

[exotic parcel]

As someone who has played Unbound

Unbound is more grip, but the drifting is still doable, it takes a second to get it figured out as cars straighten out really easy, but I can tell you, it isn't throwing you into walls like 2015 and cars can actually hold a drift unlike Heat

Straightening out is Unbound's only issue with drift because the handling is primarily grip, but it's fun once you get the hang of it, as it should go in a game

It's not realistic by any means, and yes I'd like it to be better, but for what it is after the likes of Payback and Heat, it feels significantly better and is significantly more fun

All you watched is footage, I actually did it

I built proper drift cars and figured out the setups for a good go

[simple spruce]

Is the best drift setup for FR drift cars still "Showcase suspension" "Drag tires" and "Speedcross drivetrain"?

[exotic parcel]

no, drift suspension and drift tires

the drivetrain opens up the slider

[simple spruce]

So they actually fixed something, i am shocked

[exotic parcel]

allowing you to move it more towards drift or grip

[simple spruce]

Made drift parts useful

[exotic parcel]

Like I said, Unbound is significantly better than Heat

[simple spruce]

And Like I said, I have no way to agree

[exotic parcel]

Saying it's Payback 3 or Heat 2.0 is bullshit as every game does this shit, even everyone's beloved Black Box era NFS

so it's stupid to say it just bc same engine and same models

it's stupid

[simple spruce]

I think they say it due to more reasons than that

[exotic parcel]

like what

the atmosphere and settings are always different

hell, police, the SP/MP, and especially the handling itself are wildly different

The only games that feel the exact same are 2015 and Payback

[simple spruce]

And those 2 games hardly feel any similar

[exotic parcel]

with the exact same car list, camera angles, and handling

they still feel radically different

they are still very different games

That's the Need for Speed specialty

Forza can't do it

The Crew doesn't stand a chance

but NFS can do it

and it has always done it

Even if they're essentially reskins, they still fail to feel like the exact same game

MW/Carbon is the perfect example

the only difference between the two is the progression and tier system

besides that, it's a reskin with a new map

[simple spruce]

there were differneces in cars and handling

[exotic parcel]

same handling, same car models, same menus, even the filter

which went from yellow to blue

[exotic parcel]

not really, muscle cars handled like dogshit in MW05 as well

the Elise handled the exact same

tuners and exotics handled almost the same, except exotics were faster

people didn't like the handling back then with Carbon and MW

They share the same issues with even prostreet and undercover, the whole letting off the gas to turn in more thing which could fuck your driving up if you aren't aware of it, most noticeably in Carbon and Undercover

[simple spruce]

I thought you were talking about 2015 and Payback

that's what i replied to

[exotic parcel]

oh with Payback and 2015

they handle the same

only difference is that Payback is actually stable

and a lot slower paced than 2015

[simple spruce]

Yeah I suppose there is that

Everyday that passes

i find it harder trying to keep any faith in unbound or the upcoming update

if it ever comes

[exotic parcel]

it will

idk why people wont have patience

january patch came in late january

so wouldn't it make sense they'd likely bring it out late march?

idk why nobody uses their heads lmao

[simple spruce]

I think it's because expectations are high

And they were already lied to about the update being on January

[exotic parcel]

no they didn't

it came out late january

they said it wasn't gonna be a content update

[vernal topaz]

You already have a car with replaced parts, I just think the slight asymmetry is on point. Like it's not a professional work when it's, as I understand it, not supposed to be professional work. Look at Ryan Cooper's 240SX, same thing going on there. Nothing about it would make it shit

[exotic void]

i understand but funny haha

[vernal topaz]

.>

[simple spruce]

Apologies then..

[exotic parcel]

I've been wanting to build an NSX forever since I got this game

but never knew what to make

and now here i am, satisfied

[surreal osprey]

POG

[simple spruce]

That's really impressive looking

[worldly sparrow]

Naisu

[shadow karma]

My Vulcan n my Gf's Pagani bc why not

[simple spruce]

nice stuff

I like the Vulcan especially

[crimson garden]

Ayy that's very cool, got more panel with unmatched paint

Sure, got it

Man, i wish nfs had more bodykits like 326power or bn kits

It will look more better with those type of bodykits

You can make it look more shit yknow 😅

[exotic parcel]

They say they'll add more customization and cars and whatnot

but yeah

oh no

that was how I wanted mine irl

before my dad traded it in for a hybrid 😭

[crimson garden]

Umm yeah, let's see

[crimson garden]

Lmao it's pretty sucks

Your z really look like track car on budget tho to be honest

[exotic parcel]

thank you, that's what I was going for tbh

Only missing part is the widebody from Shift

besides that it's pretty much perfect

[crimson garden]

Yeah, it's a pretty cool concept in other way. I mean just imagine having a track car that currently on progress but you can use it on track to in the same time

You could enjoy using the car and building the car

Not just build the car

I really enjoy at watching/looking other people car's that been used that way

It's way more cooler, the car serve its purpose

Take an example like tokyo drift Sean's monte carlo

We can use simple car just like mx-5, nissan z or s chassis, gt86/brz/frs, etc

It's pretty cool, at least for me

[worldly sparrow]

Nice cars, and pfp

[shadow karma]

tysm!

[simple spruce]

oooooooh

Now taht looks really cool

I am suprised to not have seen a Polestar build this cool

[surreal osprey]

bro stop it you are a legend at making clean builds fr

perfection at its finest

[exotic parcel]

thank you

[surreal osprey]

^^

[simple spruce]

it is fantastic indeed

[steel wing]

I'm gonna guess not many people like the Polestar, or they were expecting to have access to the wide body kit from the hero car of Heat.

I think it's the latter that's a bit more likely.

[simple spruce]

It's nice to at least have more of it now

[simple spruce]

That's pretty sweet. Reminds me of the UG1 purple and green Eclipse

[exotic parcel]

unfortunately the run is the only nfs with bimmerworld decals 😭

[simple spruce]

It's really cool seeing builds of the M3 E46. Like frankly, this is one of those cars which I always see modified in a very set in stone way

It's almost always M3 GTR

And if lucky, DTM racing

[exotic parcel]

The M3 has never been this customizable in NFS before 2015 just a fun fact

[simple spruce]

But you actually managed to make something original combing all different parts

[exotic parcel]

With DTM, the other one, the CSL kit, and the GTR kit, and then Payback came in with the Pandem kit

[simple spruce]

It's not really been in many games to begin with

Let alone customizable

[exotic parcel]

Previous NFS games usually only give it the GTR kit

exactly

BMW is a little strict with their cars

or at least was

[simple spruce]

Well, it isn't always so easy

Like the M4 was customizable just fine since 2015

And so was the M3 E92

And the M5 was the cover car of Payback

[exotic parcel]

The M5 only got like one kit though

[simple spruce]

It's more like 2

At least 2 different kinds of widebody

One more clean one more aftermarket

At least it has wide bodies as opposed to the Panamera

Which really has bare minimum customization

Sometimes I forget the Panamera is even in the game

At least now with Heat and to a greater extend, Unbound, we can mix and match and make original creations

And even with that it's easy to just get kits rather than mixture

[exotic parcel]

I'm working on the M5

I had an idea for it and you're gonna like it

[simple spruce]

Oooh?

I look forward to what you come up with

[exotic parcel]

It's just about done

but memory leaks are causing me to restart 😭

[exotic parcel]

it was mid in heat so people probably overlook it here as well

[simple spruce]

Great work Nico. I really like what you've done

[exotic parcel]

welp

I took it for a spin

ran some races, ran from cops

it's a solid car tbh

not the fastest but she handles pretty well

Which is surprising bc German sedan

[simple spruce]

In Heat it was pretty good too

It's really agile for its size

Very grippy and almost no understeer

[twilit hound]

this is looking good

the back

[harsh laurel]

Don't mind me.. just wanna share this, lol!

[twilit hound]

you gave me idea

im sending my mustang

[simple spruce]

Haha

That make shift 190E and S14 though

[twilit hound]

nice i have slow wifi

there u go

[simple spruce]

That looks good

[twilit hound]

everytime i see a mustang rtr in any racing game, i add these blue lines

it makes the car way more aggressive

[harsh laurel]

Sheessh

[fervent quarry]

nice no limits rtr livery

[shadow karma]

thats one good looking mustang

love it!

[simple spruce]

In the famous Skunk Racing attire.

[simple spruce]

Even made a little video of it, very nice

Though I will say you could have stretched the decals instead of putting down multiple

[karmic saddle]

some fitted by stretching and some didn't

[simple spruce]

Hmm, then as you wished with it

It does look nice

[steel wing]

I know that track. That's from Grid 2. For the first garage theme.

[karmic saddle]

Yes

[simple spruce]

It's a great music

[karmic saddle]

shame the Diablo didn't have much

[simple spruce]

Yeah its customization is limited

[karmic saddle]

its either SV or any version that used GT bits

[exotic parcel]

it's just SV, GT, and Payback parts

very gross payback parts

[karmic saddle]

yeah VT 6.0 front bumper would have been nice

[simple spruce]

Indeed

Its a shame for a car this beastly to have so little customization

Compared to countach espiecally

[karmic saddle]

I wanted to mix a lot of the parts together but then forgot about what there was to pick from

[simple spruce]

Yeah it's not really possible to mix and match when there aren't many or any parts

[surreal osprey]

Oh no not payback

[karmic saddle]

I don't understand why the SV logo is an actual part

[surreal osprey]

I wish nfs games back then allowed the glitches

To remove hood and etc

Like not patch the best glitches in game

[karmic saddle]

Yeah as much as I wanted to use the other bits they just didn't fit what I had in mind for the Diablo

[simple spruce]

It's unfortunate how limited customization in this game can at least

[karmic saddle]

103 rim designs and there was nothing I wanted on the Diablo

[simple spruce]

Indeed, it's strange honestly

So many rims and i hardly use most of them

[karmic saddle]

still wish the stance modification in Heat was like it was in 2015, yeah I want a low car but I don't the wheels cambered out

or I only want specific ones cambered like the front when I want a specific style for an R32 GT-R

[simple spruce]

Yeah I don't like it either

Why can't I have an option to not have any camber at all

Or at least very minimal

[karmic saddle]

I'm assuming they put it in Unbound

[exotic parcel]

Unbound doesn't have 2015s stance no

[karmic saddle]

for fuck sake

[exotic parcel]

even worse

it uses Heat's dogshit paint system

more specifically the vinyl coloring system from heat

where you can't just copy your body's color and material

[karmic saddle]

good thing I didn't have any interest in the game then

shame really

[exotic parcel]

you are missing out tho

the handling is so much nicer

and the pursuits are more fun

[karmic saddle]

I only started playing recent NFS games again today

haven't touched them in at least 6 months before that

only racing games that were somewhat interesting to me in recent times was Hot Wheels Unleashed and GRID Legends

[simple spruce]

That's so stupid

Even Payback was better on that front

[exotic parcel]

not really

Ghost fucked it up somehow

[simple spruce]

At least in Payback you could change the material of painted decals

[exotic parcel]

2015 had it just right, and then they fucked it in Payback

yeah ig

Now it's more like

glossiness and whether or not it's metallic/chrome

[simple spruce]

Indeed

It's truly shitty

They had the best system in 2015

A game which didn't even have mirroring decals to the other side at first

[exotic parcel]

plural

[simple spruce]

Plural?

[exotic parcel]

systems

stance, tuning, and painting

[simple spruce]

Ahhh

Yeah agreed

While the game had the most problems in its optimization and being able to run properly

And extreme limitation on customizations

It did several things so good that it was never replicated ever since for whatever reason

Messed up stance system
Messed up tuning and got away from it
Painting was worsened as well

[exotic parcel]

bros typing an essay

[karmic saddle]

NFS in recent years reminds me of the Final Fantasy XIII sub series.

NFS 2015 is XIII which was decent when it came out but people think the opposite nowadays
Payback is XIII-2 because of having most of the stuff from the previous game while having some new stuff to spice it up yet somehow is a lot worse
Heat is XIII-3 because it has everything the previous game had and yes it is an improvement but it feels stagnant and boring

[simple spruce]

It sure seems similar when put that way

It feels like the trend that most modern games follow

[exotic parcel]

"most modern games"

its a trend that games have followed for a long time

[simple spruce]

Seems more apparent with modern games though

[exotic parcel]

definitely

[simple spruce]

Espiecally since the industry has developed in a way most didn't expect

[simple spruce]

Thank you

[karmic saddle]

Unbound would be like a XIII-4 if that was ever a thing where you'd sit there, look at it, see how much of it is from the previous games and then think if its even worth buying with the intention of getting a refund after a few minutes of playing

[exotic parcel]

that would be a dumb reason

the whole "its similar to the last, its not worth it" shit

meanwhile GTA or FIFA are even worse at it

[karmic saddle]

I don't mind it when we have a couple of games that have a few cars that have been in the previous game or two but jesus christ most of the cars in the current game have been there since 2015 AND either lost bodykits or had no new ones

[exotic parcel]

yeah licensing must be a bitch

[karmic saddle]

its partially why I lost interest in Unbound

[exotic parcel]

dude

the only time NFS hasn't done that was the "downfall era" being Shift through Rivals

even then they did use older models from ProStreet until Most Wanted

ProStreet using MW/Carbon models with less customization btw

even besides all of that, its not as bad as Forza, the king of not giving a shit

[surreal osprey]

YES finally the E46

[karmic saddle]

yeah and going from game to game during that era of NFS didn't feel like I was mostly playing the same game

[surreal osprey]

Oh nvm im too late

[exotic parcel]

nostalgia is crazy bro

Playing them nowadays sure as hell feels that way

[karmic saddle]

I wouldn't say it was nostalgia for me

[exotic parcel]

Undercover feels exactly like Carbon and ProStreet except worse somehow

[surreal osprey]

I never played carbon or prostreet

Only undercover but that was on the wii

[karmic saddle]

while everyone was playing Undercover and stuff like that I was playing Forza Motorsport 1, Army of Two and some other stuff

[exotic parcel]

oh the lesser Undercover was even worse

[surreal osprey]

On the wii it was fun for me and i had an actual race wheel with it

It was a fun experiqnce than holding the controller

Or pressing arrows to controll

[exotic parcel]

I played lesser Undercover for PS2

[karmic saddle]

Carbon and Underground 1 were the only NFS games I had back when Undercover was the newest one

[surreal osprey]

Man i wanna go back in time and play that again

Ug2 was the goat imo

The best nfs they ever made

[exotic parcel]

U2 had the best handling

[surreal osprey]

Way better than ug1

But ug1 was nice too

[karmic saddle]

I was more into other racers like Flatout 2, Ford Racing 3 and some others at that time

[exotic parcel]

best tuning, solid customization, but way too grindy

I like to flex being an NFS fan who doesn't shit on every latest title

[surreal osprey]

Ikr

[surreal osprey]

I always see those kids those are probably the mw2005 kids....

[exotic parcel]

The only NFS games I don't like are MW05, Payback, and Porsche Unleashed

[surreal osprey]

Its really annoying to see them having to hate on everything

[exotic parcel]

MW05 was fun but like

with everyone's godly praise of it, I was nothing but disappointed

[surreal osprey]

I never played mw2005 luckily dont wanna be one of those cringy kids

[karmic saddle]

MW05 was alright, I preferred Carbon more

wish the M3 GTR would just die

[exotic parcel]

worse customization, worse physics, worse soundtrack somehow, pissy filter, and somehow it's just as grindy as U2, Black Box clearly not learning their lesson

[surreal osprey]

I prefer mw2012 over that

Shit on me but mw2012 was hella fun

[exotic parcel]

Do you have it on PC?

[karmic saddle]

I remember having some fun in MW2012

[surreal osprey]

Yes i had it on my dads old pc and my xbox 360 that i used to have

[exotic parcel]

If you still have it on PC we can play it sometime

unfortunately EA App is dogshit and I'm stuck with my 360 save bc I can't disable cloud saving

[surreal osprey]

Idk why people keep shitting on it tho the game was decent it wasnt even crappy at all the only thing that ruined was the easy cops and crash cam

[exotic parcel]

idek why I have my 360 save on PC

[exotic parcel]

because theo said it was bad

even though he enjoys it anyways

[surreal osprey]

If theo said its bad doesnt mean everyone has to agree remember everyone is different and has different preference🤔

But glad ive moved on to heat after that

[exotic parcel]

influence

[surreal osprey]

Basically youtuber lol

[exotic parcel]

MW05 only boasts bringing the best of Hot Pursuit and Underground together, besides that it's mediocre at best

Carbon too, except it's not as boring and more enjoyable

[surreal osprey]

Mw05 is kinda overrated

But it looks like a nice game but meh

[karmic saddle]

I think the main issues I had with MW2012 was the Exotic class being the main bulk of the carlist because really trying to do races with classes outside of that were a rarity and the takedown stuff

[surreal osprey]

And also that you can get a bugatti in seconds is also crazy but me being 14 back then wasnt really an issue to me

Was fun to be faster than the cops

[exotic parcel]

??????

the DLC one sure

for all the really good exotics you had to run through the blacklist

MW12 to me is like a love letter, intentionally or not, to classic NFS

where you just hop in a sports car and have fun

[surreal osprey]

Exactly

Thats the fun part of mw12

[exotic parcel]

except unlike OG NFS, it's actually really fun

[surreal osprey]

It was a different nfs than normal and starts in open world and not in a garage thats cringe as 2015

[simple spruce]

Nah man

[exotic parcel]

honestly out of all the nfs games I've played

and I've played almost all of the mainline ones

Unbound and U2 have the best feel in terms of handling

[simple spruce]

U2 feels so floaty though

[exotic parcel]

thats because none of the cars had weight, besides that the handling was really fun, especially without traction control

if I had to say and NFS with the worst handling

you'd think I'd say Payback but no

Honestly I'd have to say either Shift or The Run

[simple spruce]

Hmm

Having no weight really throws it off though

It's better than UG1

Where youre playing on the grvaity of moon

But still

Best handling? That seems like a stretch

[simple spruce]

I would agree with the run

But shift? Thought the handling was decent there

[exotic parcel]

ehhhhh

its too flicky wicky

[simple spruce]

Hmm

It is a little bouncy I'll agree

And perhaps too dramatic

[exotic parcel]

then again so is undercover

and to an extent ProStreet

[simple spruce]

Undercover seemed fine to me but

Nothing spectacular

[exotic parcel]

livery soon

[exotic parcel]

simple but effective

[exotic parcel]

this car is a mistake

Born to grip, forced to drift.

Essentially.

[shadow karma]

sad lol

[simple spruce]

Ooooh

That's a good look

[simple spruce]

Damn, there isn't any freedom with it then

[exotic parcel]

nah

it's still driftable

It's like how some cars aren't that good at grip like the 190E or 350Z

Some cars have biases basically

fun fact

the F1 loves both grip and drift

even on grip tires, if you slide the bias to drift it'll drift like heaven

[simple spruce]

190E isn't good at grip?!

My life is a lie

[simple spruce]

Strange to say the least for an MR to be good at drifting

[exotic parcel]

The 190E is really unstable

and I tried it for drift, it's tight and a little difficult but it's solid

I'mma try another grip build in a few minutes actually, I wanna hop in the shower first but yeah

[simple spruce]

They make it the cover car

And then make it crap

Same story as the Heat polestar it seems..

[exotic parcel]

I mean

[tropic basalt]

the Polestar heavy

[exotic parcel]

It's not like it's obligated to be the best car in the game tbf

[simple spruce]

It's not

But it should be fun and decent at least

With how you describe

Thrre is no point in 190E

Just like there wasn't in Polestar in Heat

[exotic parcel]

The main teaser car for 2015 was a GT86 and it's not the best by a longshot, same with Paybacks cover cars, or MW12s, or ProStreet

the list can go on

Also no

[simple spruce]

The 2015 cover car was an RSR

[exotic parcel]

The 190E is hard to drive but I never said it wasn't fun

[exotic parcel]

The secondary cover car was an RSR, the GT86 was promoted more and was even shown in the reveals

[simple spruce]

It still was the primary cover car

With the GT86 being behind it

[exotic parcel]

The 86 was

wait

[simple spruce]

The RSR was in front of the gt86

[exotic parcel]

oh wait no it wasnt lmao

and then it got replaced by the M3 for deluxe

[simple spruce]

Yeah that was a thing

And the M3 was decent in that game from what I hear

[exotic parcel]

but regardless, the main one, the one being pushed out the most, was a Rocket Bunny 86

[simple spruce]

It should have been easier to use

[exotic parcel]

So much so there were multiple, including Fishes

[exotic parcel]

It's an old Mercedes sedan tbf

and not the race car at that

[simple spruce]

And the RSR is an even older sports car

Yet it takes no effort to be top notch in it

[exotic parcel]

The RSR was a racing porsche

the 190E in Unbound is just an old sedan

also the RSR is significantly lighter

[simple spruce]

Eitherway it's unimportant

Car's age in these games

Doesn't play a factor

Unless its a truck or an SUV

In which case its automatically useless

[exotic parcel]

I dunno, an older Mercedes would realistically handle rougher than a modern BMW

Just saying

[simple spruce]

Then why can you drive the Soarer just fine

It's an old sedan too

[exotic parcel]

The Soarer is a coupe

[simple spruce]

It's still very large

It came in 4 doors too

[exotic parcel]

okay

and one thing

by "handles great"

you mean a boat

bc the Soarer, or at least the SC300 idk if the Soarer has the same engine or a 4 banger, is essentially a Supra

I usually see them for drifting, not really track racing nearly as often

Just like the Supra

[simple spruce]

The car was never designed for it

It just has a shared engine

And even if you wanna pull that card

You forget how the 190E ruled the DTM scene?

[exotic parcel]

I'm saying track racing

not official racing

[simple spruce]

Then the 190E should at least be good at track racing too

As it is in real life

[exotic parcel]

the 190E in DTM was obviously fixed up too jsyk

[simple spruce]

The base of the car was the same

Just made better

[exotic parcel]

exactly nima

you just supported my point there, it's just fixed up

[simple spruce]

But then why does it suck compared to the Soarer

[exotic parcel]

Exactly like a 3 series, a heavy luxury sedan, stripped, beefed, and incredibly improved handling

into the M3 GTR, let alone a normal M3

Who knows Nima, car design maybe?

This is a German sedan versus a Toyota

[simple spruce]

There is nothing in car design that makes the Soarer better

And this is an arcade game

It never tries to be sensible with half of what it does

[exotic parcel]

lemme compare the two then

[simple spruce]

Frankly dont

Cause knowing you and your love for Japanese stuff

You're gonna bring up some stuff I've never even heard of

[exotic parcel]

So

The Soarer is ofc heavier

but it has about 58 more horsepower and significantly more torque

as for handling I dunno about that chief, but if I had to guess, like I said, German sedan vs a Toyota

German sedans are infamous for understeer from what I'm aware of so

Also you're going on about it being an arcade game and everything, but bringing up a car that you know isn't even there anyways

[simple spruce]

Isn't even there?

[exotic parcel]

The Soaree isn't in Unbound

[simple spruce]

Both cars are in the game though

[exotic parcel]

It's a Toyota

The 190E is

[simple spruce]

What? Really? I was sure there was a Soarer in that game

Was it under a different name?

Damn.. now I feel stupid

[exotic parcel]

No, there are no Toyotas besides the BRZ

[simple spruce]

But I could have sworn.. damn

[exotic parcel]

Thing is Toyota wants money

NFS fans only want 3 Toyotas

[simple spruce]

Yeah that is true

They're not gonna want anything besides a select few

[exotic parcel]

even though tbh, there are a ton of cars they could add

[simple spruce]

My entire point is moot though

I made a huge mistake

I apologise

[exotic parcel]

LFA, Supras, Corolla Hatchback, AE86 Corolla, MR2s, and the list honestly goes on

A Land Cruiser would be sick even

[simple spruce]

I see now why I made a mistake

In this original promotional shot of the game

I thought that car back there was a Soarer. How was I blind enough to not realize that thst was a crown vic

[exotic parcel]

Alrighty then

I'mma test this 190E out

it can't be worse than the 350Z, and if it is then lmao

[tropic basalt]

like Nima said, it should still be a decent car

look at TC2 with the Camaro, its an easily accessible, decent Street class car. Or FH5 and the AMG, it might not be meta, but it is bloody quick

and also they should really start making the cars actually cool stuff

the 190E is aight I guess

but Heat had a fuckin Volvo on the cover

[exotic parcel]

We'll see

I'm grinding for the 190E rn

I doubt it's as bad as people make it out to be tbh

[tropic basalt]

I cant imagine it being any good

[worldly sparrow]

Mini vs Nicholas

[tropic basalt]

its a grandad car, and not a cool one like the Vic

[exotic parcel]

They probably just drove Rocky's car or some shit

Rocky's car was fun to drive

but it wasn't grip tuned, it was moreso a neutral build

[tropic basalt]

now when they adding Bullwinkle

[worldly sparrow]

Tc2 cars are all the same

[tropic basalt]

apart from the price

so Free cars are automatically the best

[worldly sparrow]

Crown vic is not ounce as cool as 190E lmao

And crown Vic is a cool car

So that says a lot

[tropic basalt]

the Crown vic is miles cooler than the 190E

[worldly sparrow]

That's like saying a Chevrolet Impala from 2014 is cooler than an Aston Martin

[tropic basalt]

the 190E is a car you see in old family photos

[tropic basalt]

well it is

[worldly sparrow]

190E is literally a famous racecar and rally car

[exotic parcel]

190E is a grandpa's car except it famously wins races

[tropic basalt]

cant get a FWD V8 in an aston

[worldly sparrow]

You smoke pot fuck off

[tropic basalt]

calm down daniel

im just stating my opinion

[exotic parcel]

meanwhile Crown Vic is funny cop car

[worldly sparrow]

No you are drunk

[tropic basalt]

go back to twitter if your gonna get offended over me stating my opinion

[worldly sparrow]

No sane car person can say that unless they have no idea what they are talking about

[exotic parcel]

Matter of fact, Crown Vic is just a grandpa's Mustang lmao

[tropic basalt]

see the difference here is

V8

[exotic parcel]

that you see beaten and abused in the ghetto

Yes, the 190E has a 4 banger, but that 4 banger has wins on it

[tropic basalt]

I dont, Im British

its literally known fact that people like cars more when they cant have them

[exotic parcel]

Oh fuck me, I tabbed out for a second and now I'm busted

[tropic basalt]

skill isse

[exotic parcel]

I must've not paused

[worldly sparrow]

That makes even less sense

[exotic parcel]

Oh well, I only lost like 40k

[tropic basalt]

only

[worldly sparrow]

By your logic 190E should be your favorite because it's infinitely more rare than a crown Vic

[tropic basalt]

I see 190s around the place tho

yeah its not the E

but still

its the same looking car

thier the irl starter car if you wanna drive a conversation starter

fucker never dies

[worldly sparrow]

Yeah I have seen a lot of civics around

Sure they are not the type r

But they look the same

Therefore the type r is a boring car

[exotic parcel]

You're in Europe it makes sense

[tropic basalt]

omg your getting it now

[exotic parcel]

but Crown Vics aren't rare

they're mass produced and literally used by police everywhere

[tropic basalt]

thats what im saying, if I was from the US id probably love the 190E

[worldly sparrow]

You actually smoke fucking pot

[tropic basalt]

want some?

[worldly sparrow]

There is no way a sober person can say that

[tropic basalt]

guess im gonna get thrown out of work then

considering thats where I be

Im on pot cuz im not you

[worldly sparrow]

Sorry that I don't waste my money on narcotics

[exotic parcel]

I'm sorry you have to rely on drugs to keep your head up

[tropic basalt]

Im sorry for having an opinion

and I thought this server had improved

[exotic parcel]

You use drugs dude, it's you who needs to improve

[tropic basalt]

I literally fucking dont

I said that as a joke

[exotic parcel]

skill issue

FUCK LMAO

[fossil dune]

[simple spruce]

oi, don't be calling 190E Uncool

[simple spruce]

There were Mercedes of the age coming in V8s too

[worldly sparrow]

Alcoholic

[worldly sparrow]

Doing your mom nyaaaaa

[simple spruce]

noooooo

Eitherway I understand why she might find the Crown Vic cooler

For her personally at least

She just put it rather poorly. She didn't mean the 190E is uncool

[exotic parcel]

I finally built the 190E

Full grip to it's extent

I'mma run an endurance race and let you know how it handles

yeah fuck that

it's nowhere NEAR as bad as people say it is

I think they say it handles like shit bc they drive Rocky's car

Like it definitely fucking understeers and it's not super fast in A+ like lighter cars (go figure) but it's by no means a bad car

Yeah, this car isn't bad

Not great, but not bad

[simple spruce]

Yours looks great

[simple spruce]

That's good at least

I like a car taht challenges my skills

And makes me have to adapt

I will definitely get it as a car of mine when I can whenever I get to play Unbound

[surreal osprey]

Nice mercedes

[simple spruce]

That's an RX8? Looks very extreme

[exotic parcel]

I'm making the most creative thing I've ever built

and it's this R3

[simple spruce]

I look forward to more and more of these

It looks great

[simple spruce]

man, that livery looks awesome

the green lights amazing too

It's a proper Touge Union car now

[exotic parcel]

Nahhh, just a noise bomb competitor is all

a teamless noise bomb competitor who's done a bunch of challenges like Blackridge's Proving Grounds and Fortune Valley's Speedcross tournament.

and obviously Noise Bomb

[simple spruce]

oh, so that's what he is

he's not Touge Union

he's just taken part in Noise Bomb competition

[exotic parcel]

yes

[simple spruce]

Very cool then

[tropic basalt]

Agreed, the 190E is a fine car

[exotic parcel]

so

this update seems to be adding probably the best thing besides cops

free roaming in the night

minor thing but very nice

[simple spruce]

Glad to hear it then

[simple spruce]

Wish there could be more

[exotic parcel]

I dunno I'm pretty satisfied with what I've seen so far

[tropic basalt]

no way my username changed to Alcoholic

[exotic parcel]

[simple spruce]

Just realised? Hehe

[simple spruce]

That's good at least

[surreal osprey]

Yo yoo

[exotic parcel]

Simple but effective.

@surreal osprey @simple spruce What do you think of this?

slight edits

[twilit hound]

i think black wheels would match perfectly with this paint color

[exotic parcel]

especially since window tint is possible, it'll be even easier

in 2015 I had to add transparent squares and it made the windows look super cloudy

and carbon fiber paintjobs are also possible so hell yeah

[ruby dust]

Gassing up the Devil Z

[simple spruce]

That looks excellent! I love the style you've gone with. It's definitely modified bit it is done so cleanly that it manages to look seamless. It feels like a special edition car that would have been packed in a deluxe version of the game. Fantastic work

[simple spruce]

So these are where the original liveries were from. very nice inspiration.

[surreal osprey]

Gas prices: imma end this devils whole career

[exotic parcel]

SO IT BEGINS

[lament musk]

Damn

she mean

[simple spruce]

What do you wanna do?

[exotic parcel]

You already forgot?

[fervent quarry]

don't forget about weasel and des3000

[exotic parcel]

idk what I would do for weasel tbh

[simple spruce]

I don't think I was ever made aware

[exotic parcel]

There aren't any Nissan sedans

[exotic parcel]

.

I guess I'll give him a Q60

One hell of an upgrade tbh

[simple spruce]

Oh, I am sorry

[fervent quarry]

polestar maybe?

[exotic parcel]

fuck no

Anyways I never realized how good this looks before the stars and eagle

but this is big murican sports car so lol

[surreal osprey]

Sorry for late reply but anyways yes this is beautifull love it!!! <3

[exotic parcel]

no worries, thank you

I finished the Vette but I wanna grind a bit so I have some money for the R34

Also I wanna take pics at night so yeah

[surreal osprey]

I basically have a few night shots that was during races when people left and was the only one

[exotic parcel]

I'm on single player lol

But this update will have night sessions so that'll be great

[surreal osprey]

I most cars on mp tho lol

[surreal osprey]

I hope day&night cycle tho

[exotic parcel]

I highly doubt that

I wouldn't want a cycle anyways tbh

bc usually in a cycle night never lasts long enough

[surreal osprey]

Anyways what u think of this(wrap made by me)

[exotic parcel]

That's pretty sick

[surreal osprey]

Would be kinda like forza but still nice i guess

[surreal osprey]

Ah yes thank u

So far only got 1 download from it xd

[exotic parcel]

I wonder how many downloads my MW12 M3 got

[surreal osprey]

I think alot hmmm

[simple spruce]

Not a bad look at all.

[surreal osprey]

It slowly starts to look better

[simple spruce]

Wow, you've really done a good job.

[surreal osprey]

:D

[exotic parcel]

GT King finished

[simple spruce]

They look fantastic honestly

These liveries revised on these new builds feels right at home

[surreal osprey]

My 2nd dream car

[simple spruce]

It is a beast

[surreal osprey]

It is for sure

[harsh laurel]

I have a Ford GT toy car... Might recreate that in Heat

[steel wing]

Can you show it?

[spring terrace]

livery is based on my dads s14

i think the purple is deeper

[simple spruce]

That purple is really nice

And yeah you need to edit the color a bit

The real car has a different bodykit too entirely xd

[exotic parcel]

much deeper

Here, make it darker, metallic and maybe give it a color shift

[hollow canopy]

i dont think hes doing a replica coz he said based on

[simple spruce]

Yeah I realized but the massive difference was still funny to me

[hollow canopy]

fair enough it is completely different except the livery

[vernal topaz]

Sub

[fossil dune]

i like

[exotic parcel]

sweet

[exotic parcel]

okay holy fuck

The Charger handles like shit but good lord does it make that up in power

[twilit hound]

guys is the r35 customisation is wild on unbound?

[exotic parcel]

It's the same as Heat for the most part, but it has a Legendary Custom's conversion

[steel wing]

I'd totally download that if I had a BRZ.

[exotic parcel]

Legendary Customs in Unbound is basically Superbuilds in Payback or Works Conversions in Shift

Very nice to have

[twilit hound]

o

[steel wing]

Now that I think about it, I'm surprised I haven't gotten one.

[twilit hound]

these npcs are ruining my pics

btw here is the build with normal lightning

[exotic parcel]

Heat does not look that terrible wtf 💀

[simple spruce]

It is how Heat looks

[twilit hound]

i used filters for the pics

[twilit hound]

just after you said that the car fell underground

[simple spruce]

pfft

Heat reliability

[exotic parcel]

so uh

326 Bunny inbound

pun intended

[simple spruce]

what is 326 bunny?

[exotic parcel]

A 326 Power Rocket Bunny car Katana showed me

I just called it that bc yeah

[simple spruce]

Hmm, so just a random name?

Strange

but yeah you definitely can come very close to pefectly recreating it with all the parts being available in Unbound

[twilit hound]

oh

good looking car

wth bumper delete on heat?

[exotic parcel]

more like a cut bumper from NFS 2015

not cut out of the game but quite literally cut up

anyways I can only do so much but it's coming together decently

[twilit hound]

its starting looking like the real one

[simple spruce]

Man that looks beautiful

Great work Nico

[twilit hound]

damn

its the same one

fr

[simple spruce]

It's Basically spotless

[twilit hound]

btw the rear view mirrors are black

[fervent quarry]

is that need for speed shift widebody?

[twilit hound]

idk ive never played shift

[exotic parcel]

No lmao

That's Overtake mixed with Rocket Bunny and Ben Sopra

[fervent quarry]

then i like the overtake bodykit

[twilit hound]

yeah

[simple spruce]

That's really good

[surreal osprey]

I. Neeeeeed. Moreeeeeeee of this

[surreal osprey]

Early early early early early acces of unbound customization:

[simple spruce]

I wanna be able to make cars very similar to real life builds too

Basically be perfect

[shy atlas]

common nico w

[simple spruce]

Hehe

[steel wing]

Lovely

[simple spruce]

Quite nice to be honest

[jaunty cove]

Thanks lads!..aand kinda fixed the car alitle with just adding the small bit of silver on the top of the grille to be complete

[simple spruce]

It feels like a sin to modify something like this

But your two tone feels right at home

[steel wing]

You added that silver bit? I thought it was part of the car by default. Well done.

[jaunty cove]

i blame that other Maybach for the inspiration for the rims

[jaunty cove]

thaaanks!

[simple spruce]

They do work relatively well

[sweet yoke]

idk bro u tell me

[surreal osprey]

Lol

[twilit hound]

A

[sweet yoke]

B

[twilit hound]

[buoyant wren]

[steel wing]

All done.

Here's what it's based off of.

[simple spruce]

That's actually great

Very well done

[simple spruce]

I do like your M3 E92 build

[shadow karma]

damn where'd you get the lil toy from? I like the build!

[steel wing]

I found it.

I occasionally get lucky at work and happen to find hot wheels lying around the parking lot.

I've been working outside for 6 years, 5 months, and 19 days, and I've only found 6.

[hollow canopy]

whats ur job?

[steel wing]

I work as a cart associate for Walmart.

[surreal osprey]

Epic

Honestly thats smart i kinda wanna do that too

[steel wing]

People occasionally lose or forget things in their carts.

[surreal osprey]

Rip

[steel wing]

Most of the time, I'll take them to customer service, but other times, I'll take it with me, hence the hot wheels.

[surreal osprey]

How can you actually forget what you put in your cart?

I honestly wonder

[steel wing]

You'd be surprised.

Small things, I can get, but I've seen people forget pet food, toilet paper, milk, laundry detergent, candy packs, and more.

[simple spruce]

Very well done

[fervent quarry]

des3000 looks perfect

[exotic parcel]

thank you

[buoyant wren]

thank me

[exotic parcel]

for what

[buoyant wren]

existing

🙁🙏🏿

[exotic parcel]

💀

[buoyant wren]

[surreal osprey]

Nice 👌

[twilit hound]

oooo

good idea

[vernal topaz]

cmr

[exotic parcel]

That's really nice

It's something I can really really appreciate

[shy atlas]

HOOD SCOOP

[exotic parcel]

LOL

[simple spruce]

I need to do something as good then..

[simple spruce]

How is the Maybach?

Any good for racing?

[exotic parcel]

I wouldn't know for sure since the 993 is mid in this game

but it is alot of fun to drive

which I didn't expect from a massive sedan (even though the M5 is also fun)

[simple spruce]

Well it is a long wheel base car

meaning it is very stable

perhaps too stable

But hey, at least you're having fun with it

Makes me more hopeful

[exotic parcel]

@simple spruce Wanna see a livery that might make you happy?

[simple spruce]

What have you got?

[simple spruce]

Oooooh!

A Payback Dimaond block car

To be honest this sort of car fit their persona better than GTRs and BMWs

I do like what you've done though

it doesn't just copy their work, it borrows their style and makes it work into a racing livery even

You've done an excellent job, I wish I would be able to do liveries as nice looking as tehse

[exotic parcel]

It's not my livery unfortunately

I'm making a DTM livery

I'll be making it on the 190E as well later on down the road

[simple spruce]

This will be perfect

best of luck

[terse geyser]

Thats good looking

[surreal osprey]

Classic af geez

Pretty fcking good tho

[exotic parcel]

I gave up

Was almost done, forgot to save, and my wifi cut out and I was kicked from it 😭

[surreal osprey]

Rip @exotic parcel 🫡

[exotic parcel]

I'll still make the 190E someday but

I think I'll do something else with the Maybach

[vernal topaz]

those are not HRE rims on the car, are they?

still looking amazing though ❤️

[exotic parcel]

Weds, I'm not using that livery

[exotic parcel]

made this instead of the DTM livery

[simple spruce]

That's rather cool

In style of the Carbon liveries somewhat

Shane you couldn't do the DTM livery

[fervent quarry]

perfect start tbh

[exotic parcel]

Undercover

[simple spruce]

Oh, sorry then

[simple spruce]

Really street style

[jaunty cove]

Eyyyy tribute to Undercover!

[surreal osprey]

Nice

Epicly cool

[simple spruce]

Goddamn, seeing an LB imagine the whole world at peace livery sure does bring memories

Makes me wanna make an LB Car in Heat

[lofty mason]

too impatient to wait for the non convertible version, just wish it wasnt just GT3 style kits

[exotic parcel]

???????????????????

[lofty mason]

have the same issue with the 34, wish theyd give us more than the same 3 generic nfs kits. and give the thing a ducktail for the love of god

[exotic parcel]

The GTR has Nismo parts

and then one bodykit

previously 2 but they gave up licensing for the other one, it was a mid kit anyways but still

[simple spruce]

Didn't know they took out a bodykit

That's a shame

[exotic parcel]

again, it was mid

just a bumper and then a slightly more extreme Z-Tune look

[simple spruce]

Which one was ir? Was it the racing kit?

[exotic parcel]

nah, Sunline

I wish they'd have the actual C-West kit but eh

[simple spruce]

Isn't Sunline the 2F2F Nisssan lookalike

That's a shame to no longer have it

[lofty mason]

thats what i mean, i know theres lb kits for it. and i get theres liscencing issues but i just wish we could see more, even if its just more lb and rocket/pandem kits

[exotic parcel]

It's a C-West bumper with a slightly extreme Z-Tune body yes

[simple spruce]

Can't recreate the 2F2F car anymore

[exotic parcel]

shit livery anyways

[simple spruce]

Eh it's cool

It's iconic

[exotic parcel]

what it was before was cool

[simple spruce]

Despite appearing for only a few minutes

[exotic parcel]

even then it was a fanmade livery based on another GTR anyways lmao

[simple spruce]

Well it's not always gonna be original