#NFS Unbound Gaming

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lavish crest
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So I can't restart new saves anymore

wraith atlas
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No

rustic isle
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its bull

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i cant even play half their games now

celest lantern
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EA moment

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Not gonna' uninstall Origin

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but I'll be using EA app from now on

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Not because I like it

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but because I'm forced to

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At least I know how to handle it now

rustic isle
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origin doesnt even work for me

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nfs 2015 full one doesnt work

full zodiac
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most helpful ea tool

lavish crest
sour orchid
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you can have both

sleek swallow
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download it separate

celest lantern
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I didn't pick the update EA App option

celest lantern
dense torrent
fickle cradle
undone rivet
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Airbus Chiron 1500

lavish crest
lavish crest
pearl mason
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anyone wanna go do some racing?

ember dome
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I see the arguement but the headlights don’t line up too much imo but I can see why you’d think that

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Plus that’s what it was in one of the visualizers for the Lucid Dreams remix

lavish crest
remote gale
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@pearl mason I’m down

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Who’s down to grind money and rank g

pearl mason
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I'll notify you next time I'm on @remote gale

lavish crest
celest lantern
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O O F

pearl mason
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anyone wanna do some racing?

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@remote gale how about you?

remote gale
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im down

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@pearl mason

lavish crest
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I used an Illinois plate bc Chicago Airfield

scarlet dove
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Does it sound as good as it looks

lavish crest
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well yeah

lavish crest
fickle cradle
pearl mason
warm spire
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Figured to give it a shot

lavish crest
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but Underground's soundtrack still slaps

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the point across is good though

fickle cradle
rustic isle
lavish crest
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wtf are those canards lmao

full zodiac
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when:
when bugatti widebody:

magic dune
pine pond
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just wondering, what is the best B class car to play in online ?

lavish crest
pine pond
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I'll look into it idk i had these cars rn i'm only level 7

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Yeah i don't have the rsx yet

warm spire
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I'm not sure if I'm able to recreate this s14 but won't it be badass to see Fielding Shredders car in unbound?

lavish crest
full zodiac
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Who's the guy with the chad charactertheoTrol

lavish crest
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pewdiepie

celest lantern
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Best YouTuber ever existed

magic dune
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Paragleiber

sleek swallow
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so uh

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best class for the M1

celest lantern
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🅱️

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(I think)

lavish crest
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That would be hilarious

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I only ever drove it in S+ and B so I dunno tbh

sleek swallow
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lmao

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it seems pretty decent in S after building it up on the stock engine

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though I've not actually raced it just drove around

lavish crest
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I'm so glad this isn't Heat dude

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Decent builds without being to be forced into engine swaps and all

sleek swallow
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seems more about if the car actually handles

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and how fast they climb in the higher gears

lavish crest
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The A 45 is genuinely decent in A+

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Handles nicely, though it's a little slow

lavish crest
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Murcielago bumper delete goes hard in Unbound

magic dune
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indee

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d

fickle cradle
celest lantern
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Bold

pearl mason
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anyone down for some races?

celest lantern
lavish crest
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I feel like recreating old NFS cover arts in Unbound to the best of my ability

fickle cradle
celest lantern
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Man, Heat 5's theme is fire but

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damn that heli flew so low lmao

stable timber
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Crying emoji

lavish crest
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this took a bit

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took 53 stripes

magic dune
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looks like a 10th anniversary version

celest lantern
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🫡

lavish crest
short trellis
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Thats nice

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really nice

lavish crest
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cool bug

rustic isle
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yes

sleek swallow
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Menus should be way less static going forwards

lavish crest
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indeed

celest lantern
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Fr fr

light nacelle
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I was about to ask how you got that body kit and wing, but then I remembered you're on PC.

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Damn you EA for not giving access to the hidden content.

lavish crest
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and i think it will based on cue same points again

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M3 GTR is "obtained early" for EA Play members, M3 GTR isn't unlocked after it's delivery unlike every other night delivery car, "Razor's Edge" literally teased anyways

light nacelle
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It's still annoying.

dense torrent
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Not EA fault

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Criterion is totally not Ghost and repeating their same mistakes

light nacelle
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Once again, still annoying

dense torrent
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I wish Gho- Criterion can just hurry up and update the game since this game died faster then Heat

lavish crest
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🤦

dense torrent
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Nico is just a dick rider btw

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Not wanting to accept the mistakes

lavish crest
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Sleepy is the average NFS fan as you can see

rustic isle
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unbound bad 😠 criterion bad 😠

dense torrent
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Based

lavish crest
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Quick to kill a game in his eyes because the first update wasn't a massive content update with everything he wanted lol

rustic isle
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i hope the update is good at least

lavish crest
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So do I

dense torrent
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I seen more and more people got bored already Unbound while for Heat it took more time

lavish crest
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They finally got to rest so I'm sure they'll be cooking up some good stuff

rustic isle
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online needs more content and gamemodes
especially party style ones

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bring back cop elimination

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team escape

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cops and robbers

dense torrent
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MP needs to be fix immediately

lavish crest
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Heat only kept going because Heat didn't happen lol

dense torrent
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The lobbies are more dead then fucking Heat

lavish crest
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Payback did it's damage and Heat only added salt to that wound, that salt is what gives Unbound the shit it's getting lol

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Even though Unbound is better in many other ways anyways

dense torrent
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Like what

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The cops doesn't do shit,story is boring,customization is meh,and the atmosphere isn't good

rustic isle
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i prefer the unbound atmosphere to heat

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and more consistant physics

dense torrent
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I also noticed the city was dead and all they did was add park cars

lavish crest
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They actually made a grip handling model unlike Ghost for 4 games in a row, they actually added customization to old cars unlike Ghost for 3 in a row despite constant requests, cops are actually fun and you're able to fight them off, Unbound isn't as boring in atmosphere or setting as Heat is

dense torrent
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I was driving on a highway and only saw like 3 cars

lavish crest
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nitpicking as usual

dense torrent
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Unbound just remove brands

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And the ability to remove parts

lavish crest
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They added more than they lost lmao

dense torrent
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Ohhhhh so new

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The cops again just drive and cruise

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Doesn't attack at all

lavish crest
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That's a you problem lmao

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My cops fight me normally

rustic isle
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i liked the cops

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maybe abit too on your ass

lavish crest
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the cops in Unbound are more fun than Heat's

rustic isle
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but the chases were better because your car had more health than in heat

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and more chances to regain health

dense torrent
rustic isle
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also millions of cops would spawn on the roads

lavish crest
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helicopters actually did what they should lmao

dense torrent
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They would spawn too frequently as most fans say

lavish crest
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unlike every other NFS with helicopters

rustic isle
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my main problem is that when youre not being chased there would be a cop on every road making it almost impossible to drive anywhere

lavish crest
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Honestly yeah, just like Undercover

dense torrent
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I like the helicopters but they don't change my mind that Unbound cops are still shit

lavish crest
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I notice though, it's mainly in areas you just escaped

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If you leave the area you were last seen they spawn a bit less frequently

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it's annoying but in a good way

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aka cops are actually competent

dense torrent
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Also where is the risk and reward for Unbound

lavish crest
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uhhhh

dense torrent
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They keep talking about it but the rewards isn't worth it

lavish crest
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the money you make lmao

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you can make a fuckton of cash, I've lost up to like $700k or so post-story

dense torrent
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$250-$2K depending on the Heat isn't alot

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Plus it isn't really required for progression

lavish crest
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oh wow lmao, nitpicking the escape reward lmao

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when NFS never did that in the first place XD

dense torrent
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Heat did it better

lavish crest
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Heat did jackshit lmao

dense torrent
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In terms of risk and reward

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Higher rep=more parts,cars and races

lavish crest
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yeah, multiplied heat and that was all

dense torrent
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What does cops in Unbound even offer

lavish crest
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heat 3 and 5 giving you like one race each

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and after you get all the ultimate parts they're useless anyways

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In Unbound you lose every dollar you make that night if you're arrested

dense torrent
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Ok and what does Unbound offer

lavish crest
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Which imo is better than what Heat has to offer

dense torrent
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Since some events needs certain heats

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And those events isn't really worth it

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Most of the time

lavish crest
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I mean shit, I've always gotten some sweet rewards from them

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$40k for an S race, $80k for S+, maybe more

dense torrent
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I seen other events with better rewards then these Heat ones

lavish crest
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Meanwhile in Unbound you have to put up money to race the good races, which is even more incentive to win

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While Heat spoils you even if you're last

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Risk and reward, totally

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In Unbound at least you can actually lose money if you lose the race

rustic isle
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whilst it doesnt have replayability i much prefered unbound's single player
as it had more focused progression with its limited time and money
making me get attached to a couple of cars i would improve over time

lavish crest
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Some races are even winner take all meaning if you don't win you're completely fucked, not even a bit of money back

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but what about Heat? if I get last place I still get more money than the other players bc oh look lvl 50 crew haha

dense torrent
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Unbound market as risk reward to the cops side of things

lavish crest
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total risk and reward right there

rustic isle
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i liked that i could actually lose in unbound and get punished for recklessness

dense torrent
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Unbound marketing was another issue

lavish crest
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again, you lose all of that money you work for if you're arrested

rustic isle
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and not just retry everything

lavish crest
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If you're reckless and careless and get fucked over by an F-150, you can kiss those 6 digits goodbye

dense torrent
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I wouldn't comment on the busted stuff since it feels like the same

lavish crest
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As for Heat, the few times I was busted, I only really lose rep and a couple grand compared to the hundred thousand I made anyways so what

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Heat is only fun if you go for rep records, other than that getting arrested is whatever

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In Unbound I can be grinding and genuinely get punished for fucking up

dense torrent
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Just wish the Ai was little better

lavish crest
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oh yeah, limited retries was a great addition too

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made you use them wisely or sharpen up your tunes and driving

dense torrent
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And wish the betting system could've been little better

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Like I would've love if the Ai can randomly bet on me

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Like how Juiced 2 did it

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And they would either want to raise the money or lower it

lavish crest
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thats a nitpick but I can agree with you on that, it woulda been cool

dense torrent
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And pinkslips is something I want to see

lavish crest
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I think that was planned

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they might add it later on

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I wonder if it'd become some kind of multiplayer function, which would be interesting

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@rustic isle which do you like more?

rustic isle
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subuwu

lavish crest
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I asked people in my server and it's evenly split between the two

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I dunno what to say but I think the Z is my favorite

dense torrent
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Yeah MP

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Tho I rather have it SP

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Since their servers are not great

rustic isle
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if there is pinkslips
i wonder if there will be a glitch to just steal people's cars lol

lavish crest
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I think they should add it to SP as well, as a way to get the character cars in both modes

lavish crest
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"ill trade your r32 for this regera for free"

takes the R32 and runs

rustic isle
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scammer gets scammed

dense torrent
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As much I hate these but Unbound needs a anti cheat if they want to add pinkslips

lavish crest
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inb4 it becomes a reason to shit on unbound

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when every game, even the good ones, are full of glitches nowadays anyways, and have been for decades

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Besides, if an exploit does end up being discovered, we'll have to see how fast they patch it

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either they take time to fix it, or they're focused on the next update and do it by then

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eitherway I don't really care, I love pinkslips but I'd only really do it within the community anyways

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GTA taught me years ago not to trust randoms anyways lol

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though tbh if it's some exploit to steal cars, it'll probably be some kind of speed glitch or a mod that stops timers, I dunno if anybody is gonna go out of their way to make those though

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I realized the Z doesn't have any Zillas on it, which is depressing bc I hit the decal limit 😭

full zodiac
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Those two decals on the roof below the 33 look like weed

lavish crest
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not really..

dense torrent
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I swear they should've extended

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The limit

full zodiac
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I don't have the new console so I don't know what they are

lavish crest
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Eh it's whatever lol

dense torrent
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It feels like last gen

lavish crest
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Out of the tons of liveries I've made, this is the first time I ever hit the limit, let alone come close

full zodiac
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The orange and yellow blend better with the pink than I expected

dense torrent
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Really don't see how this needs current gen only title

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The SSD loading times are nice but that's all they offer

lavish crest
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ray tracing could probably fry a PS4

dense torrent
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There isn't RT

lavish crest
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yes there is

dense torrent
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The CM said so

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During the phase

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Even if there was you can just remove it on last gen

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Ik these consoles are old but if you want to make it next gen show what you can do

lavish crest
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wait no i got that mixed with dlss somehow

dense torrent
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DLSS and AMD RSR is a blessing

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I talked to Brad when he was CM and man he couldn't even make a good reason why last gen was out

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I can see other games like Dead Space remake and Wild Hearts

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May need next gen

sleek swallow
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upscaling was used instead of optimisation in Unbound

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it's really disappointing as a PC player

dense torrent
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I legit got shit talk for saying these upscaling tools are barely gonna help since the optimization is gonna be shit

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Wayyyy before Unbound released

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Consoles optimization really sucks ass atleast on the Xbox side

sleek swallow
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When DLSS 1.0/FSR released I got shat on for saying "they'll just use this as an excuse to not optimise" and here we are

wraith atlas
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Cyberpunk, cod etc

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They all use it instead of optimization it's awful

dense torrent
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Ik but I was talking about Unbound specifically

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I don't like the excuse oh it's because the game is new

sleek swallow
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doubt they'll fix it

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2 maybe 3 updates I expect, varying in size and quality

dense torrent
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That January update had some performance stability

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But I didn't notice anything

sleek swallow
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jan was a patch

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barely even that

dense torrent
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Yeah

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And some people say we shouldn't get mad after we waited 2 months for something

sleek swallow
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didn't even fix anything

dense torrent
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The two cars feels like they didn't change at all

sleek swallow
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they may as well not have

dense torrent
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Man if the next update doesn't offer anything new to try nor fix I would just delete the game

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I got FH5 yesterday now waiting for that rally expansion

sleek swallow
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speaking of updates that didn't add anything, the FH5 rally DLC

dense torrent
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That rally expansion looks fun to try

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And since H1 Rally expansion is delisted

sleek swallow
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wow the same old races but with a PNG added to the HUD and 5 voice lines

dense torrent
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I mean not to defend H5 but H1 Rally was like that as well

sleek swallow
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surely you expect some degree of improvement over 10 odd years

dense torrent
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Let's just see what happens because it's not like there isn't anything else happening

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Unbound Keys to Map dlc got leaked for the 21st

sleek swallow
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to be expected, classic microtransaction

dense torrent
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Along with some clothes DLC

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The keys to the map is fine but a clothes DLC

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Yeah that's not a good sign

sleek swallow
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yeah not great

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trying to think of a genuinely good racing game update in the last 10 years now

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not gonna count BeamNG as it's a bit more than racing

dense torrent
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Idk why some fans would defend that they are focusing on clothes brand

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Then actual cars and brands

sleek swallow
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if the same teams do cars and clothes I'd be concerned

dense torrent
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Their Instagram stories has them been promoting clothes

sleek swallow
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well they got annoyed at their only PR (the unhinged dude who memed on everyone on twitter) so yeah

dense torrent
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Mainly Namilia

sleek swallow
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whoever they are

dense torrent
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I wonder how Rocky feels about the game

sleek swallow
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all I want are cars, mods, races and payout increases... maybe some handling fixed as I hate how inconsistent every car is

sleek swallow
dense torrent
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Man I want Audi and Sunlike R34 kit

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They had to remove them for clothes

sleek swallow
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I think we both know that's not how that works but if it helps you cope I guess

dense torrent
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I mean they definitely have the money to keep them

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Why remove them

sleek swallow
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I do agree they shouldn't have been removed at all but yeah, let's not make this into something that it isn't

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also you forget they also removed own-brand parts so it could just be Criterion doing stuff

dense torrent
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I bet Criterion is doing the remove content then adding back later as free updates

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Why does game devs have to do this

sleek swallow
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management fun ig

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and consumers let them too which doesn't help

dense torrent
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I am more mad that they had extra time after they worked on 2042 and feels like they didn't take the time

sleek swallow
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It was a 2 year dev cycle

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2042 took up roughly a year

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they also had to pick up Ghosts project, this is Criterions Rivals only they had more than 5 months lmao

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and before you say they're the same staff, some are, a lot aren't. Have that on good authority plus people don't tend to like moving countries for work

dense torrent
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Ik the studio half are old and half are new then they got one of Criterion studios to merge at the mid end

sleek swallow
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something like that

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I am upset Ghost got axed, they weren't able to build the studio to size but they did at least try

latent echo
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ngl I think I'm gonna quit fh5

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something about that game makes it so boring

sleek swallow
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I did after the first 3 days, with exceptions for friends

latent echo
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I have nearly 1k cars

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in the game

sleek swallow
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you need something else to do mate

latent echo
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I'm doing something esle

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else

dense torrent
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I am barely finishing H5

latent echo
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I haven't turned on the game since december

dense torrent
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And trying out that HotWheels expansion for my first time

dense torrent
sleek swallow
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every game they tried to appeal to the fans

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Payback got taken off the road as everyone knows

latent echo
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when did ghost die

sleek swallow
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but they actually fucking tried

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Criterion just fucked about, made NFS Forza and added some shitty crayons

dense torrent
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The marketing really killed them

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There is no launch trailer rven

sleek swallow
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the game killed them

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Heat similarly had little marketing but word of mouth prevailed

dense torrent
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Heat market is honestly pretty good

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Their reveal trailer was #1 trending in YT

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And Heat Studio was already great

lavish crest
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Heat even had a customization app and personalized reveal trailers along with them

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Unbound had drops but nothing crazy

sleek swallow
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Heat Studio was a smart move, do not remember the trailer trending at all but maybe it was different in the US

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I do know that Heat kept selling in the UK right up to the end

lavish crest
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Oh yeah, it definitely trended

sleek swallow
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fairs

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it was a good trailer tbf

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hyped and showed what everyone wanted to see

lavish crest
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all the marketing NFS Unbound got coulda been alot better but it wasn't the worst

sleek swallow
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I think the quantity was similar but the quality was worse

lavish crest
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oh yeah

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absolutely

dense torrent
sleek swallow
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trailer is like a 1:1 clone without the feels

sleek swallow
lavish crest
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the gameplay trailer took forever and the customization trailer(s) didn't show very much

sleek swallow
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they added no customisation for this game meaning there was nothing to show

lavish crest
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They did add customization lmao

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they just didn't show it

sleek swallow
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they added some for select cars

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and removed a bunch of others

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made some universal parts like wingmirrors not universal

lavish crest
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a few others, only like 3 or 4 bodykits in total last time I checked

sleek swallow
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removed/retextured exhausts

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not really what people wanted

lavish crest
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but a handful of old cars Ghost never bothered to touch got one to three bodykits

sleek swallow
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I'll have to find those cars, hopefully they're not gaudy

dense torrent
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Man I miss Ghost still and would've love to see Heat get the updates and content

sleek swallow
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really aughta hack money into the SP tbh

lavish crest
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and then a couple, granted it should've been all, special version cars (911 GT2, Turbo S, etc.) got some actual customization from their counterparts instead of what Heat had going for them

sleek swallow
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icon cars was a bad idea

dense torrent
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I don't mind Icon cars but they drag the M3 GTR for so long

sleek swallow
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glad they've done that for some of the cars, miffed that wasn't communicated and they removed the customisation score so nobody knows

dense torrent
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I swear they should've had the BM RX7 or Ryan Cooper 280SX for the day event side story

lavish crest
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Even though you can't do much to them, I like that Heat's special cars were optional bodykits

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and even with the kits, the liveries and wheels were still changeable which is nice

sleek swallow
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just make the icon cars NFS Editions

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let them be customised

lavish crest
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exactly

sleek swallow
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and have one for each game

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easy af

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but they don't fucking do it

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it's not even gonna be that hard to do either

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ignore that ghost spent ages making the old NFS kit's fit the perfevtly scanned irl models without making them look wrong

lavish crest
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I think if they did add them back, and I think they will in an update, they'd likely make those legendary customs, with the actual hero car itself being purchasable as the hero car

sleek swallow
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hm, maybe

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maybe they'll make them subscription only too though

lavish crest
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Let's hope not, only time will tell though

dense torrent
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The M3 GTR is still not available to non members

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Plus I wouldn't trust Criterion making more cars if something like this slip through the cracks

sleek swallow
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I spent ages in the endgame trying to get the car

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found out the hard way

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apparently they take it off you when your sub ends too?

lavish crest
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the thing is the M3 GTR is "given early" for subrscribers

sleek swallow
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incredible

lavish crest
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So I'm thinking it's probably gonna be available to the rest later on

dense torrent
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I had the car taken away when my EA Play died on the PS5

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And I spent money on the car

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Like performance parts

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Didn't even get the money back even

lavish crest
sleek swallow
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they seem to have done something with the wraps

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if you customise a car with the wrap you can see edge lines where the old body parts were etc

dense torrent
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They would've noticed it

sleek swallow
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idk why they did this, it seems super random

dense torrent
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They didn't port the M3 GTR from Heat

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It feels like it is from scratch

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The coloring is also different

sleek swallow
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dumb to waste that work tbh

dense torrent
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Besides that minor mistake it's not a great car to use

sleek swallow
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let me customise it though, so I don't have to put that much effort into making the black edition

dense torrent
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It's pretty weak in the higher tiers

sleek swallow
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handling issues?

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or just slow in higher gears?

dense torrent
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It's slow in higher gears

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It's a S+ class and I tried to max it

sleek swallow
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is this compared to the regera or the other cars?

dense torrent
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Other cars

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Back in Heat it was weak too on max

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And my last issue with Unbound and it bugs me

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How is Unbound current gen only

sleek swallow
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that doesn't bother me tbh

lavish crest
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you made that complaint before already

sleek swallow
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the game should run better

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but it could not run on the base last gen consoles

lavish crest
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the issue isn't current only, the issue is poor optimisation

sleek swallow
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those bastards were 4 years old when they were released

lavish crest
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exactly

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If you tried playing Unbound on a Base PS4 it just wouldn't handle it

dense torrent
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Yeah due to the shit optimization

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If only they worked on it

lavish crest
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thats alot of games though lol

dense torrent
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If you cap the 30FPS

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Then it should be fine

sleek swallow
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30fps 😬

dense torrent
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I mean

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That's normal for PS4 and One

sleek swallow
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even if the game was optimised

lavish crest
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inb4 they just do what they did with the PS2 and just make pure Payback reskins and call it "Unbound" lol

sleek swallow
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I do not see it running at 30 on the base Xbone and PS4

dense torrent
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I could

sleek swallow
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maybe if they removed the smackables

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and pedestrians

dense torrent
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Yeah

sleek swallow
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downed the textures

dense torrent
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That's all they gotta do

sleek swallow
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used upscaling

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maybe you could get 20

lavish crest
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maybe the resolution a bit

sleek swallow
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but man, those consoles were so poor back in 2013/4 when they launched

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I'm sick of them holding gaming back

dense torrent
sleek swallow
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just like the "pro" versions

dense torrent
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It's funny

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People say the Series S holds back

sleek swallow
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it does

dense torrent
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I seen Unbound running on the S and yikes they should've capped it

sleek swallow
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do I need to break out the ID statement again (before they were bought out)

dense torrent
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If they had to make the game on the Series S

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Might as well do it on the last gen

sleek swallow
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they can't though

dense torrent
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Because they suck

sleek swallow
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Sony and MS don't allow you to make last gen games that only support the pro models lmao

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that's why

dense torrent
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I bet the One X can be better since it is technically stronger then the S in some areas

sleek swallow
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It has a stronger GPU, slightly

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weaker CPU

dense torrent
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More memory tho

sleek swallow
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so it's basically the same

dense torrent
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I can see alot of benefits with that extra ram

sleek swallow
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can store higher quality textures but not process them

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so in reality it's not a big deal

dense torrent
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Man idk I don't see Unbound taking the current gen hardware besides the loafing screen

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The graphics isn't as impressive the more I played

sleek swallow
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you may not, go back and play Heat on a base console (it struggled) and then you will

dense torrent
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Heat never dropped frames

sleek swallow
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even if it was optimised

dense torrent
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Ok maybe in one random area

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But that's it

sleek swallow
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try playing Unbound on a 10 year old low end PC

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that would still be a better experience than a base PS4/XBone

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welcome to time and computer hardware

dense torrent
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Disagreed since PC got more issues like the memory leaks and the GPU being broken at tomes

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Base console at best will drop a few frames but that's it

sleek swallow
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like seriously, I'll hate on literally any NFS you ask me to (even fucking Carbon), but I don't see it being biable at all

lavish crest
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ngl I only had memory leaks when I tabbed out

sleek swallow
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like mate

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I work in computers

lavish crest
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I have worse issues with GTA though, tabbing out causes the game to become unplayable bc the framrate is horrendous

sleek swallow
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I spent over 10 years building and speccing them

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I know my shit

dense torrent
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lavish crest
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especially when doing timed missions bc the time goes on as normal while I'm driving significantly slower than I should be

sleek swallow
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your base model PS4 is a 2009/2010 AMD PC

dense torrent
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That GPU just came out and it already has major issues

lavish crest
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my gpu doesn't have these issues and it's not as good

sleek swallow
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firmware issue, is easily patched, where's the major issue and how many 4090s do you own?

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this is kinda like me pointing to the overplayed PS5 liquid metal "issue" and saying it's a major issue that everyone has

dense torrent
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Changing the topic I see

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From Unbound having optimization issues to now the Ps5 liquid

sleek swallow
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who is sorry?

sleek swallow
sleek swallow
lavish crest
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using examples =/= changing the topic

sleek swallow
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making a direct comparison to what you said lmao

dense torrent
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Whatever but still the game shouldn't even have issues if Criterion even tried

sleek swallow
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mate the hardware is ten years old

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AMD CPUs got good only 5 years ago

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and those first gen ryzen chips aged poorly

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like

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yes the game definitely should be better optimised on all platforms

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my 7900xt should be hitting 200fps in it easily

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but man

dense torrent
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Games like CoD MW2 are still being supported on last gen and it performs fine enough

sleek swallow
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it's not gonna run clean on a base PS4, and it's not gonna be pretty on a PS4 pro

dense torrent
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I don't even get what Criterion said about this

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If everything still feels dead

sleek swallow
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MW2 is quite a different game

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idk how well it runs but I imagine it's not pretty soon as it is also a poorly optimised game

lavish crest
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honestly it's still a racing game at the end of the day, and the only racing game to have a ton of traffic was midnight club, and Undercover specifically during highway races

sleek swallow
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midnight club crawled too XD

dense torrent
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I want my maps to be alive and when they made that comment I was happy to see that the city will be alive

sleek swallow
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pretty certain I could run quicker than that game at times XD

dense torrent
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Just to see 2 or 3 cars

lavish crest
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it is more dense with parked cars and peds all over the place, just because they're not driving or not isn't really a big deal

sleek swallow
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no I'm with sleepy here, there could definitely be more AI cars

lavish crest
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i guess

sleek swallow
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the peds and parked cars make the city feel more alive that Heat though

lavish crest
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I personally don't mind since it's still a racing game, too much traffic gets really annoying over time

dense torrent
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The highways are super empty

sleek swallow
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that said heat feels more alive when you're playing it anyway so

lavish crest
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One of my only couple of issues with Midnight Club

dense torrent
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Like come on push the CPU

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This is embarrassing

lavish crest
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I'll admit that though, highways should have more ai

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but thats not much of a big deal anyways

sleek swallow
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I think it takes from the thrill of street racing when the roads are that empty

dense torrent
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Yeah it really does

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Undercover highway battles were really fun

sleek swallow
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argument to be made it's a balancing act to make the casuals not get mad but

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sounds like it's time for me to beat the Undercover is Underrated drum again

lavish crest
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again, the only nfs to have a ton of traffic is undercover and it's one of it's strong points

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so yeah I can agree tbh

dense torrent
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Even MCLA also did that and it was fun

lavish crest
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Especially after trying no hesi, which was awful, I do think a bit more traffic would be fun

sleek swallow
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I do wonder if NFS could do both high traffic levels and B2D at the same time

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nore traffic means you need more control

dense torrent
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Now that's fun

lavish crest
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Then again, custom lobbies, they could make traffic density an option with that

dense torrent
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That one feature we will never get

lavish crest
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who knows

dense torrent
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Also when will they add cops to MP Criterion

lavish crest
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who knows

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you can't complain about something that's yet to be confirmed

sleek swallow
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probably first update

dense torrent
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I mean Heat had it day one

sleek swallow
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not that they'll be good

lavish crest
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they separated the two tbf

dense torrent
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That's not really a excuse

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To completely remove them

sleek swallow
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I like the separate MP, it really should have made cops a part of it's progression

lavish crest
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I dunno, Most Wanted doesn't have cops in it's separate mp

dense torrent
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I am still mad about that

lavish crest
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neither did Payback

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Rivals, Heat, and 2015 are alldrive games so

dense torrent
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Payback didn't have free roam cops sadly in SP

sleek swallow
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the less we say about MW13 multi the better

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same with payback cops

lavish crest
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MP still coulda gotten bait crates but didn't

sleek swallow
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point is, they got it right with heat so how did they fuck it up after Heat

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like

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Heat was a direct response to Paybacks criticisms, including Paybacks multi and cops

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how do you just forget all that

dense torrent
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Man I wish Heat had speedlist

sleek swallow
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especially when it's clear Ghost had started on Unbound to begin with

lavish crest
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NFS never had MP cops when they were seperate, besides the HP games which doesn't count for obvious reasons

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Unbound will be the first in the entire franchise to actually do it once they do add it

rustic isle
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bring back pvp cops

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cop eliminator mode

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from carbon

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team escape

dense torrent
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Undercover online game modes were fun

lavish crest
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yes they were

rustic isle
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cops and robbers

dense torrent
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Is what I usually hear when I talk about missing stuff

sleek swallow
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I mean it did eat their time

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it took 1 year of their 3 years

lavish crest
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Heat is an alldrive game, it's moreso bringing MP functionalities to the SP, they're not seperate modes

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The brought MP to it's own section and decided to work on other shit and bring in cops later

sleek swallow
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what other shit though?

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like actually

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what is new in unbound gameplay wise?

dense torrent
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Idk if it's me but it feels like there is barely any cutscenes and story moments in SP

sleek swallow
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the only new thing I can think of is that you have to drive to the speedlist menus now XD

dense torrent
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Why did they remove quick travel

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Or well they forgot to tick it on

sleek swallow
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why did they remove the quick GPS in the multi

lavish crest
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quick gps was for active events

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but yeah i wish they'd have added them anyways

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if im honest i think mp wasn't their main focus, everything else was, and they'd work on mp after launch

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i dunno

dense torrent
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I only understand they are off if we got Heat

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SP doesn't feel well put together

lavish crest
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the story isn't so crazy but then again nfs hasn't really been very crazy besides The Run and Undercover

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and Carbon

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SP in Unbound

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I've been trying to explain it but the best I can say bc I'm kinda clouded rn anyways is it's NFS

dense torrent
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4 weeks feels small

lavish crest
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NFS stories were always weird in how they play out

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Honestly it's not excruciatingly short like Heat, it's not excruciatingly long like MW or U2, and the side missions are a good aspect to it

dense torrent
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One more week would've been fine

lavish crest
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I'd want the story to continue with Alec and everything, but the story as is isn't so crazy, it's not like Payback or Heat where they play it off like there's meant to be more

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Unbound as it plays out in story works fine, yes, I'd like it to be a bit longer but it's not like it didn't any time at all

dense torrent
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The characters doesn't feel likeable

lavish crest
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and honestly looking back at sp after the story, there might not be much to do but then again I think Unbound feels really old school as an NFS so personally I could forgive it, 2015 had replayability, Payback was a bit too stretched out but that's probably just because it's painful to sit through, and Heat's sp dies out fast and becomes boring in an instant

dense torrent
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I want to shoot both Jaz and Tess due to how annoying they are and being unlikable

lavish crest
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Nah, Shimizu is a likeable character, and Lyric genuinely makes you want to beat him when he talks his shit, Justicia as well, and the Civic guy is just goofy cringey stoner dude but I can't help but laugh

dense torrent
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They aren't story characters tho

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They are just Ai

lavish crest
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But you're racing with those characters

sleek swallow
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Big ups Tess tbh

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she did her job

dense torrent
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But they don't serve the storyline

rustic isle
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i want to ryde rydell

sleek swallow
lavish crest
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Yaz is the villain, she's not the best villain, but she's likable

dense torrent
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I found her annoying and cringe even

sleek swallow
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Is Yaz the villain though? I never felt like "oh she is the bad guy"

rustic isle
#

more like rival

dense torrent
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She is the bad guy for taking the car

sleek swallow
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I didn't feel there was a bad guy

dense torrent
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That she worked on

sleek swallow
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as alec was completely forgotten about

lavish crest
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She's the rival rather, the villain if anything would be alec even if he never really appears

dense torrent
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Alec just exists to make Jaz the bad person

lavish crest
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They could have him come out of the shadows and do something about everything but idk if they ever will, it doesn't really matter

sleek swallow
dense torrent
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Yeah

sleek swallow
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Unbounds story was weak overall

dense torrent
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The dialog is painful

lavish crest
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honestly I'd like to see those cars that were stolen from Rydell make a return

dense torrent
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We did got some Rydell cars they were stolen

lavish crest
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oh, the painful dialogue came from the male player va

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besides that it was fine

sleek swallow
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Tess was the highlight as she was the only character who felt like a personality, her and Rydell's interactions were kinda smart the rest kinda felt flat and like fanservice

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Noticeably a MW05 rehash vibe with the story yknow

lavish crest
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yeah

rustic isle
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i was expecting the politician plot line to be relevant in the end
like the mayor was the one who gave alec the money for the grand, so that street racing would be more rampant, justifying more policing,
then the plan would be to ambush all the racers at the grand, arrest them, and then make the mayor look good for the election

lavish crest
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minus the cringey college kid wannabe gangster shit tbf

dense torrent
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Ngl I thought Rocky would've been the main bad guy after watching the reveal trailer

lavish crest
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Honestly I wanna play through unbound again but

sleek swallow
sleek swallow
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Wait, you expected Rocky to be the bad guy???

dense torrent
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Well

rustic isle
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zero media literacy

sleek swallow
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After he was super chill for the entire trailer

dense torrent
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That cutscene with that race did got me a idea

lavish crest
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All he had was a scene of him saying he was betting his car lmao

sleek swallow
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no shittalking or anything

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that scene wasn't even in the game lmao

dense torrent
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I wonder about that scene when the cops raid to the underground scene

sleek swallow
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nor were the cops in the event xdddd

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mannnnnnnnnnnn

lavish crest
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Rocky's place in the game is he's the guy who brought takeovers into the city

sleek swallow
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second time cutscenes were trailer only for no reason

dense torrent
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He wasn't even hard

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He got stuck and didn't move

sleek swallow
lavish crest
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ehhh I wanna say this

rustic isle
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rocky isnt even a good racer
he gives you the most in bets
but isnt that good

lavish crest
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Takeover >>>>> Speedcross

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they did it much better

dense torrent
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They are both the same

stable timber
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In the trailer, He was just mocking the player lmfao

sleek swallow
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It's cos the 190E is fucking shit

stable timber
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^

rustic isle
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^

sleek swallow
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worst car in the game

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actually

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level with the Crown Vic, has to be

rustic isle
#

rocky would be faster if he used the eclipse

sleek swallow
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but the Crown vic at least doesn't try to snap your arms off

lavish crest
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funny enough he kept up with me when I raced him

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He was easy but he kept up

dense torrent
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Let me see if I can find the article

stable timber
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Crown vic having a extremely high top speed in the game in a game where you want to have the least top speed as possible

lavish crest
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Anyway, takeovers feel alot more organic, fits better and doesn't feel like a GTA stunt race setup, and also to hell with the zone bullshit, they just mashed it all together instead which I like better

dense torrent
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I was thinking of Carbon with this

sleek swallow
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I think I was a mile ahead of ASAP, and I used the Evija which feels pretty slow

sleek swallow
lavish crest
#

emira*

sleek swallow
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same shit it's 9PM

stable timber
#

IGN moment

lavish crest
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the evija is the one with the ugly concept looking rear end

dense torrent
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IGN was just asking

sleek swallow
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it's not a direct quote though

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meaning it was rewritten

stable timber
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IGN moment

sleek swallow
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yeah precisely

dense torrent
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What would Matt say then

sleek swallow
#

I feel like American's weren't taught to think critically

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or like

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read between the lines

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they kinda just read

stable timber
sleek swallow
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I think they did say he was the person who did the takeover events

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but the moment you saw the takeover events in the trailers

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you knew what was up

dense torrent
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Yeah it felt lacking

sleek swallow
#

Man I love that Payback DLC that I didn't enjoy at all nor finish

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I am so glad they added it to Unbound with no changes

dense torrent
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I like the speed cross but it was hard due to the input delay that my PS4 and PS5 kept causing but still Unbound it is fine enough

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Wish we really take over those areas

lavish crest
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Speedcross was fun

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Takeovers are fun too

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they both fit their respective games too

sleek swallow
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I don't see the fun tbh

lavish crest
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Takeovers fit the illegal street vibe nicely and Speedcross is as dumb as Payback itself XD

sleek swallow
#

It's way more of a puzzle

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and it doesn't feel illegal at all

lavish crest
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would make sense if it's not your cup of tea

sleek swallow
#

spend hours setting up wooden barriers in a construction zone both at day and night

sleek swallow
lavish crest
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it's not burnout so there won't be crazy out of this world stunts lmao

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its just jumps, smashing, dodging, and drifting

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and you also have fast driving ofc

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bc you do lose potential points the longer you take to get to the next checkpoint

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like ProStreet's sector shootouts

sleek swallow
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you lose points but you can gain more by sliding around so it negated itself a little

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I view it way more as a really simple puzzle

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you see the three paths and you decide which order to take them

lavish crest
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geez guy thats no fun thinking like that

sleek swallow
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you tap nos to protect your 5x thing

lavish crest
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"making it back" when you can add both together, you're still losing points

sleek swallow
#

that way you keep your multi and won't miss any of the smackables

sleek swallow
lavish crest
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honestly thats the only gripe I have about it, it shouldn't have been general nitrous use but perfect shots instead

sleek swallow
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I'm not saying you go really slow but yeah

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oh and smashing into barriers isn't a stunt, it's more of a "can you control the car"

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jumps are boring cos they're all forced (when will NFS undo the Forza and make jumps an achievement/special again?)

lavish crest
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the checkpoints are just another addition to your score is what I'm saying, if you can drift while going as fast as you can you can get an even higher score than you would focusing entirely on the drift alone

sleek swallow
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don't have to dodge anything, there is the odd negative points barrier but they're just making the road "narrow" (I use that term lightly)

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by the end of it, it's just boring, you do three and you've seen them all

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no real variation in the events at all, and the drifting/driving isn't good enough to make them engaging

lavish crest
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i mean ofc it's "can you control your car" lmao

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a stunt wouldn't be so great if you wrecked

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not to mention some smashables are supposed to be avoided

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and you get combo bonuses if you smash certain things while drifting

sleek swallow
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mate it's B2D the car control is so hand holdy yet inadequate it's like

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hard to miss the barriers, also hard to feel like you've actually done anything

lavish crest
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you're essentially nitpicking at this for no reason, like I said this isn't exactly burnout where you're doing crazy flips and spinning in mid-air. stunts aren't all just that

sleek swallow
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Not for no reason, because the game mode is 1:1 what it was in Payback and everyone agreed they were not really anything interesting or special when they were added to Payback

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I'm not asking for literal stuntman PS2 tier shit

lavish crest
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but guess what

sleek swallow
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Just make it interesting, make the track layouts interesting, make the car interesting

lavish crest
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its a game mode

sleek swallow
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use the terrain better

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make the game better

lavish crest
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it isnt there to be the greatest thing ever

sleek swallow
#

not exactly rocket science

lavish crest
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its a game mode meant to be fun, which it was

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it is fun doing dumb shit while it's the goal of the mode

sleek swallow
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You can find it fun, I am saying they could have added spice to make it fun to me

lavish crest
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whereas you're slowing yourself down and risking loss doing these things in a race

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you're being tasked and rewarded to do them in these events

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thats the point

sleek swallow
#

Ranun, I am glad you brought that last point up

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because smackables in Unbound don't slow you down, and it is often way faster to just smash through them and cut

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the drifting is also still faster than grip except on sweeping corners

lavish crest
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not it's not lmao

sleek swallow
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and the jumps, yeah they are slower, they are also forced ina number of the races

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therefore, you can in fact do all of these things in a race and still win

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I like adding other game modes, it's what racing games need

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they just also need to have some pizazz to set them apart and make them feel different

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When your game has 3 modes, racing, takeovers and takeovers but without the smackables, you really need to set them apart

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you need to bring the fire

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there was no fire

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there wasn't even a warm breeze

lavish crest
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smashables dont slow you down tremendously but they still slow you down, even if you can cut for a shorter route, generally smashables will slow you down regardless, especially when there is no road to cut, drifting slows you down significantly faster than just turning a corner and only benefits you if you're about to understeer into a wall, but it doesn't make you faster unless you're burst nossing into a tight corner, as for jumps, its only one or two courses that have "forced" jumps, one of which not even being forced, but was optional as a matter of fact, especially considering that jump lead to dirt which also slows you down

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I'm not bringing any fire, I'm just saying

sleek swallow
lavish crest
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sorry i misread that

sleek swallow
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also if you read my comment about the drifting being faster you would have seen I made an exception for sweeping corners, a lot of the tight ones are slower especially with how unreliable grip turns are for awarding you NOS

lavish crest
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honestly most of the drift racing sucks though, but there are some good genuine drift courses that I enjoy alot, and I've run them a bunch

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Nah, gripping is alot faster than drift in those tight corners if you can pull it off

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It's just a matter of driving line and the use of simple slow-in fast-out

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I've won alot of drifter's delight because of those tight curves and my cars are strictly grip tuned

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Even in cars that weren't as fast as the opponents

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drifting feels faster but it's really not

sleek swallow
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I am impressed tbh

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your opponents must be pretty poor

lavish crest
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say what you will ig

sleek swallow
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I race a mix of grip and drift depending on the corners

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as always, you aim for the microdrifts as you get both Grip and Drift NOS (unless the game bugs and doesn't give you Grip NOS)

lavish crest
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there has only been one corner I have ever struggled with in grip

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and that's because it's a weirdly elevated and sharp corner just off the mountain roads

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but even then I've been working on it and have been getting huge gaps between me and drifters with it

sleek swallow
#

cool ig

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idk what more to say here

wraith atlas
rustic isle
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razer if he had a good car

dense torrent
lavish crest
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who defends bad optimization lmao

dense torrent
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People who has a PC that is worth 2K or smt

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I talked to some people in El Pee server and heard Unbound optimization is fine and most of our PCs is shit

lavish crest
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Yeah no

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Levi’s PC is better than mine and ran worse and I was using ultra settings at the time

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My laptop doesn’t run Unbound as smooth as I want it though so I put it on Auto

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but then again it should run better than it does, bc when I do change graphical setting the game will fuck itself up

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Heat does it too

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Payback and 2015 don’t

dense torrent
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I heard Angryboi say Heat optimization is fine and my PC was dirty

lavish crest
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so idk why that’s gradually getting worse

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lmao

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Heat optimization sucks

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I mean I have a budget gaming laptop but like

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If I can run a fuckton of other modern games at max settings smoothly @ 60fps, idk why Heat won’t at high

dense torrent
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My laptop can barely run it but the huge CPU usage is what it kills it

lavish crest
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I think its CPU usage that fucks mine over too tbh

dense torrent
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When I tried Unbound yeah it would crash after 10 minutes

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The game just had a bad CPU usage and somehow Unbound is worse

lavish crest
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If they fixed it I’d probably be able to play at least high settings

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rip

dense torrent
#

I saw Xbox consoles suffers too from it

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Series X would be approx 55-60FPS

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Series S can go as low to 45FPS

lavish crest
#

eh that’s not too bad tbh

dense torrent
#

You can say those are bad but the fact it does happen on consoles does shows how bad their optimization is

#

If consoles has issues too

full zodiac
lavish crest
#

This is the only other car that's from another NFS besides the M3 GTR to end up in Unbound

celest lantern
#

Isn't ex-Rydell's cars came from Heat ?

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Well this one's definitely is

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Yep

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That GTR's from one of the AI

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------► Cars → Nissan GT-R Premium (2017)
-----► Player Name → Ezzie
----► Level → 275

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------► 00:14 (Customization)
-----► 07:50 (Race #1 Day)
----► 13:20 (Race #2 Day)
---► 18:11 (Race #3 Night)

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Really enjoyed this scene

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Truly gave a fresh spin

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on the MW05 style betrayal

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and TIME is HARD

full zodiac
lavish crest
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It's one of the 200 race AI

rustic isle
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and i dont remember a single ai car from heat

sleek swallow
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I remember Yaru's in Unbound and thats it, Heat I know none, Payback it's that 1% boss's and that's vague, 2015 none

rustic isle
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i rememebr all the unbound cars

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because they had their own characters and theyd draw attention to them in pre race locations and intros and stuff

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replaying the grand lol

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oh bc they were disqualified lmao

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magic dune
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idle void
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So they said something about "The Worlds fastest leather armchair"
Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ Maybe?

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I doubt that

idle void
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What else do you think it could be then?

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A Bentley probably

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I was thinking Bentley

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So like Conti SS?

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or the concept

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concept is a stretch

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but probably the Continental or Bentayga maybe

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sleek swallow
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yuh

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latent echo
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he now

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the trvl man

scarlet dove
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yes, 3 cars that dont exist and nothing else

scarlet dove
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More then 3 cars

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Most of the time there are production cars in the line up

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New events and time trials

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Etc.

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More than unbounds pathetic 2 cars and features that should have been at launch

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ah yeah "new events and time trials"

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do this same event but in the new car that costs real money or hours of grinding to get

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my bad

stable timber
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for a game that nobody cares about

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that only has the budget to do it bc people are dumb enough to spend fortunes on it

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not to mention the forza levels of low poly

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those look like forza lmao

scarlet dove
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What's wrong with that

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you're right

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you wouldn't want to fry your phone after all

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btw

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its 2 cars, cops, a new activity, and more and new races

scarlet dove
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Shouldn't take 3 months for that

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it took one dumbass

scarlet dove
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Not counting that small patch, it's been around 3 months since launch and. This one 'major' update that should had things at launch

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before the patch they most likely took a break

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i mean

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they're humans

scarlet dove
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Gameloft and Firemonkeys are human too.

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Yet both are able to pump out good consistent updates for their racers.

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neon saffron
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And keep in mind they have to delay the game development and remove many shit because of the lack of time and bf2042

sleek swallow
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I can't support either game on this one really

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Asphalt is... well it's asphalt not exactly the beacon of gaming

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and Unbounds new patch is pretty lacking

celest lantern
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Can't blame ya dude

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Someone said BF2042 had more content in their updates

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so compared to that, Unbound is pretty underwhelming

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but even then I'm still happy with it

celest lantern
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Same enough

pearl mason
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I don't need much,more races and big balance patch

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Drag races would be fun too

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NFS underground style

celest lantern
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I want a drag race

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passing the freakin' express train

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thats basically what we got

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not the drag race bit but like

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they're changing up the playlists, there are new courses, we got a new activity to do in free roam

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That you've seen in the vol2. trailer/rapid transit

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and they're likely fixing the balancing, especially considering cars like the Camaro and 488

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Skyline 2k, f40 and rsr should be touched a bit too

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Or maybe other cars should be buffed

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Not sure which is a better way

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Cuz I'f you bring down those few ,then another few will appear to be beyond everyone else

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So maybe bringing up the ass cars is a way to go

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Not sure

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There's always gonna be a fastest car

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besides those cars aren't completely broken like the 488 or, to a short extent, the golf

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I just realized

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I never earned this until just now

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Welp, I've done it

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400 hours on Unbound

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cumgradjulayshons

latent echo
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takes a while to code all that

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must be nice

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being able to add 3 cars per two weeks

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in a mobile game

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where every car drives the same

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basically copy paste, with a new scanned model

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AAA games are a different issue

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yes, big money greedy corporations

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yes, they're scum

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no, games, even after 2 years or 3 months, require alot of time and effort to work on

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People want a mountain of content in the matter of a month and it just won't happen in any game

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I want to see this idle camera now

rustic isle
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Does it go inside rydell's ass?

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Again, it's obviously more than just "adding cops and two existing cars"