it’s so fucking annoying lol
#Welcome to the Need for Speed Forum!
shy summit
Aye, or allowing perf upgrades on the cop cars
kind rivet
believe me when i say nobody’s joining this in any tier under S
takedown challenges for unlocking cars don’t track
😭
as a cop, was hoping I’d get that out of the way
winged rune
Lmao
magic halo
The best
pine sleet
they really grabbed challengers 💀
kind rivet
They're decent drifters
I was digging at the absolutely ridiculous challenge to unlock the challenger.
pine sleet
unrelated but bullshark inspired me to make this lmoa
wide crystal
fadrius
kind rivet
fuck the emp
magic halo
Lmao
kind rivet
honestly
fuckers were too lazy so they brought over heat’s emp
how the hell do you even evade it
shy summit
Wait it's an AOE? Fucking hell
kind rivet
Wait it's an AOE? Fucking hell
it’s the emp from the cop unit on heat
shy summit
The killswitch
shy summit
RIP
kind rivet
once again another oversight
shy summit
I like how your nicknames evolved during this update btw
kind rivet
oh and this
shy summit
Is that the undercover unit?
kind rivet
I like how your nicknames evolved during this update btw
this update could have been much better but Executive Asswipes decided to overload the damn update with tedious challenges
shy summit
Nah
kind rivet
Is that the undercover unit?
959 undercover unit
shy summit
I don't think execs are overly involved in these updates
They're clearly budget with not much time spent on them
shy summit
oh right i get you
yeah lead devs going about progression in the wrong way is really dumb
kind rivet
gotta get player retention in some way lol
shy summit
Well it didn't work on me in any of the updates so maybe they need a new way XD
kind rivet
Well it didn't work on me in any of the updates so maybe they need a new way XD
they should pull a wukong
wide crystal
unrelated but bullshark inspired me to make this lmoa
what about ex from Krimson?
kind rivet
(not go strictly story mode tho)
wide crystal
what about ex from Krimson?
from carbon own the city
kind rivet
they should pull a wukong
fuck it this is a sarcastic remark now
shy summit
?
kind rivet
it was a line i didn’t ponder fully before saying
fallow violet
Why do the repair kits just don't work in the hot pursuit races
Because as I know
In unbound the repair kits activate automatically when the car reaches critical damage
But it just doesn't happen in the HP races
magic halo
Why do the repair kits just don't work in the hot pursuit races
it does work but it works so slow
fallow violet
it does work but it works so slow
Is there a timer when they activate?
magic halo
nope it just activates when u survive long enough on critical health
fallow violet
Oh ok
pine sleet
Because as I know
In unbound the repair kits activate automatically when the ca...
You need to survive critical
for it to take effect
It takes like
idk actually
if you dont hit anything it'll take like under a minute
if you keep tapping and scraping it lasts longer
magic halo
UNDER A MINUTE? Damn thats actually longgg
pine sleet
yeah, I still prefer that tbh though
puts me in a really scary spot, can't fuck up, can't get hit, DESPERATELY have to survive to get another repair
kind rivet
got 6 spikestrips in one match
pine sleet
oof
kind rivet
a pursuit tech i don’t intend on using but knowing this horrid progression system I’ll probably be forced to
winged rune
got 6 spikestrips in one match
Do a 1v1 with your friend
Neae à gas station or smth
What the
Near a gas station
winged rune
No
kind rivet
Do a 1v1 with your friend
bold of you to assume i have any that play unbound, rather insane of you to assume i have any (not counting disc)
winged rune
I could help you but its currently 3 am
kind rivet
i can knock out the spikestrips no problem
also for context gotta hit 7 racers with spikestrips
kind rivet
it does say 7 times
could be phrasing
welp time to see what the next pursuit tech is
winged rune
I think that hitting the same racer over and over again would count
I'm too tired to english
kind rivet
nope.
fuck that, not even worth progressing any further for shit i won’t be using outside of a exclusive race
magic halo
Damn it even gets harder💀
kind rivet
encountered someone that had Baron’s cayman lol
pine sleet
oh they actually put it on a cayman
kind rivet
unlike me, i probably will whenever i unlock it
kind rivet
My Boxter is a replica of the NFS Mobile car lmoa
718?
pine sleet
ye
oh, this too
also a replica
Maybe I'll try doing a uh
Blacklist replica project
kind rivet
Maybe I'll try doing a uh
so far i did a parody of Baron’s cayman
kind rivet
one of the units is a police truck
pine sleet
uh yeah
kind rivet
I didn’t know
pine sleet
they showed all of the units in the teaser lol
kind rivet
how to survive hot pursuit
pray half go for last, pray half go for first and send it when first is the last one taken out
kind rivet
didn’t send but party invite lol
pine sleet
I sold a car in story and got a notif saying "record what you just did"
kind rivet
what even is the cooldown on the emp
magic halo
Its long but to me not even THAT of a big deal
kind rivet
welp
magic halo
welp
Damn it
I swear i managed to get 3m in just a few hours
Insane how much money you can earn just almost got my bugatti money back lmao
kind rivet
guess you're playing Legends V8 then
fuck no but imma check something rq
no surprise lol
meanwhile, instantly started as i joined
nvm got a hp lobby to start
tired remnant
welp
I went from 8 million to 18 just by grinding hot pursuit boosted race
They were so good
winged rune
Theyre not boosted anymore 😔
unborn cargo
When is this dude gonna play Hot Pursuit 2? He has the emulator to do it. So set it up Theo
kind rivet
what car in unbound should i build
winged rune
what car in unbound should i build
Chevrolet bel air
kind rivet
my life be like oooooooaaaaaa
kind rivet
I technically already have one in A class
smoky meadow
Saleen S7 deserves way more to have been added to NFS Unbound than the Evija
pine sleet
eh
I'm sadder about it not being in Undercover
I woulda raced the ffffffffuck out of that thing
smoky meadow
I am sure we all would have
Well, it did end up coming to Sparkserver of NFS World.
Even got the S7.R bodykit as an option.
smoky meadow
eh
The Evija just didn't deserve it man
We already had the Evija in form of the Emira, an already forgetable car
winged rune
smoky meadow
Jesus it's already been 5 years
shy summit
5 years since the last good NFS game, simpler times
magic halo
fr tho
kind rivet
i mean what’d you expect after the studio gets shot out back only 5 months in
pine sleet
they acted so proud when it was coming out lmao
kind rivet
ghost?
pine sleet
probably ghost, yes
kind rivet
i mean they probably didn’t know bullshit publisher ea was gonna can em
pine sleet
im fine with it tbh
because we got unbound out of it
Payback was trash and Heat was worse
kind rivet
ah yes, the apex legends of the franchise
having your game be alive just because of premium battlepasses and constantly trying to pay homage to its glory days ain’t much to boast about, that belongs to cod lol
pine sleet
worse handling, worse graphics because they made it WAY too wet and WAY too bright, worse story (then again they cut it off short, payback should've done that too), and the worst soundtrack of them all
i mean the soundtrack grew onto me a bit but still
pine sleet
having your game be alive just because of premium battlepasses and constantly tr...
yeah battle passes, except its not just nostalgia bait. they're actually adding the game modes. they're half-assed but they're actually adding shit to do.
kind rivet
meanwhile unbound’s soundtrack was made the butt end of bad nfs ost’s, why wasn’t heat’s ost made that way?
pine sleet
Heat was gonna force progression for a single body kit for every car they added, honestly that wouldn't be so crazy either
kind rivet
yeah battle passes, except its not just nostalgia bait. they're actually adding ...
game modes that were merely tolerated because at the time they were boosted
pine sleet
Heat's soundtrack was infamously shit, then again I like both of them
I don't like the day race music but the night and garage shit is good
and I like Unbounds soundtrack too, moreso even
pine sleet
To everyone, the modern soundtracks are shit
To me, the worst soundtrack is Shift 2, because it doesn't have one.
I can't say any of the soundtracks are bad
They're all from their own eras and times, and they fit the games they play within.
My only problem is they didn't separate music but I learned people were complaining about that anyways so 🤷
It's not that it was an issue, it's that Heat's sounstrack was too small for how it was used. You get like 7-12 songs per section so they feel super repetetive over time
kind rivet
ye idk why
pine sleet
but Unbound I say has race music
its just mixed in with everything else
so you could be racing to that russian song, absolute banger btw
and next race you have Bless Me on, one of the worst songs in the game, especially for racing
winged rune
5 years since the last good NFS game, simpler times
This works too
shy summit
they acted so proud when it was coming out lmao
probably due to the sales. Yknow, the best launch in history according to their twitter?
pine sleet
yeah probably
Considering 2015 was as successful as it was, I probably shouldn't be surprised
narrow lichen
i love NFS Heat's early game "one more race" energy
hell even after lvl50 i just see how much rep i can get
narrow lichen
thats all you can do tbh
its still fun asf, imo heat police>unbound police
both difficulty and overall fun wise
pine sleet
I want Heat difficulty with Unbound cops and pursuits
But I'd rather Unbound cops eitherway
narrow lichen
i only got busted once in a hard level Unbound playthrough yet i cant even count in a normal level heat playthrough
also rivals cops 
pine sleet
I only got busted once in my last playthrough because I decided instead of jumping in the water to reset I would try driving through the cops that boxed me in
I forgot it's Heat and I took too much damage from it and hey, I totaled
narrow lichen
also cars are made of thin paper in heat
winged rune
But I'd rather Unbound cops eitherway
The fuck
pine sleet
Am I wrong?
Their only issue is they're easy
But they have more units based on heat level and they all have different aspects
not to mention helicopters actually have purpose
It's why I play Gauntlets so often, they're still not stupid difficult but definitely buffed enough
winged rune
But they drive like dumbasses and they look like the don't even know why they're here
pine sleet
Plus damage actually functions right in Unbound so I can fight back
Same as Heats cops
Paybacks cops would be the same too if they weren't fixed to a set route (and then they werent and they suck ass)
winged rune
Same as Heats cops
Nah they dont drive like morons
winged rune
yeah they do lmao
I've never seen a cop in heat flying over my car for no damn reason
And I did in unbound
pine sleet
Yeah I've been landed on by an F-150 I even clipped it
Then again isn't that because Heat cops die from jumps
kind rivet
if it’s a high jump then ye
pine sleet
I bet they tacked that in instead of fixing the damage model
winged rune
I hate when Unbound's cops cut corners and crash into random things
pine sleet
I hate when Heat cops give up randomly, they're supposed to be harder not easier
winged rune
Instead of crashing into ur car
magic halo
I hate when Unbound's cops cut corners and crash into random things
and yet they call you the dumbest drivers lmao
winged rune
I hate when Heat cops give up randomly, they're supposed to be harder not easier
Thats because ea nerfed them
pine sleet
I wonder why
magic halo
kids
pine sleet
because of a shitty damage system? nah because the cops are too hard
winged rune
Because the cops are too hard for a 10 yo kid
pine sleet
Challenger is heavy and should be good for cops, no? Why do I rear end a Corvette with one and lose a quarter of my health then? They decided to the cops as shit as the damage system
10yos complain about Unbound cops being too hard as well
winged rune
10yos complain about Unbound cops being too hard as well
No fucking way
magic halo
unbound cops hard? more like annoying af
pine sleet
"the game isnt meant for them" but you guys got into this franchise at that same age, no?
if not younger
magic halo
i started with ug1 like idk i was 13
magic halo
real
pine sleet
That's such an ignorant thing to say
"the video game thats meant for all ages isnt for kids"
magic halo
you let an 8 year old play such violent game?
pine sleet
oh wait, they said the same shit about nfs back then too
winged rune
you let an 8 year old play such violent game?
Bruh
pine sleet
HP2 and UG1 were seen as kids games back then too lmao
magic halo
fr?
pine sleet
yes
magic halo
damn
pine sleet
this franchise never changed lmao
winged rune
I dont remember hp2 having bad cops
pine sleet
who said anything about bad cops
if anything HP2 cops are just annoying first of all
second of all, I'm talking about the kids excuse
winged rune
HP2 and UG1 were seen as kids games back then too lmao
I thought that calling a nfs game a kid game is because of the cops
Thats why i said that
narrow lichen
this franchise never changed lmao
it did like 4 times tho
narrow lichen
because NFS had an identity crisis
narrow lichen
NFS never had an identity crisis
The community is so split up
pine sleet
It dabbles in a little bit of everything but ultimately, it's the illegal racer vs cop game
narrow lichen
NFS has the identity of being a jack of many trades
that imo is 50/50 on one hand its variety, on another look at the community
pine sleet
Even the infamous World era was that down to its core
winged rune
It dabbles in a little bit of everything but ultimately, it's the illegal racer ...
Payback with no freeroam cops
pine sleet
It does playable movies here and there with Undercover, The Run, and Payback
It does track racers with ProStreet and Shift
It does urban street culture like Underground, 2015, and Unbound
It does high speed pursuit races like Hot Pursuit, Most Wanted, High Stakes
narrow lichen
i love the ones with Vehicle combat focus quite a lot, i love rivals
pine sleet
It does vehicular warfare like HP10 and Rivals
NFS is a jack of many trades.
But it's always at least one of two things: popular cars and cops.
It's ALWAYS had some kind of culture to it
Even the classic games
narrow lichen
But it's always at least one of two things: popular cars and cops.
its usually customization and cops since 2015
pine sleet
Especially considering NFS started off as a magazine's driving sim
It's usually cops and customization since High Stakes/Most Wanted
narrow lichen
Especially considering NFS started off as a magazine's driving sim
the car intros from classic NFS are so fucking peak
pine sleet
I like alot of the NFS intros
narrow lichen
ngl the story also became a selling point since Payback (NFS 2015 is just a career with cinematics)
pine sleet
though my favorites are Unbound and Shift 2 probably
Payback has the absolute worst intro of them all, just zooming out of a PNG
Like PS2 Undercover at least shows the trailer
narrow lichen
my favorite in terms of story is probably Heat, because god damn the fucking execution is PEAK
pine sleet
yeah no
narrow lichen
Like PS2 Undercover at least shows the trailer
i love NFSMW2012 intro and Rivals
pine sleet
Heats story is basically high budget Fast Beat Loop Racer
winged rune
i love NFSMW2012 intro and Rivals
Mw2012's intro is iconic imo
pine sleet
Your character comes in and tries to make a name for themself, okay good. But the thing is you take a backseat. You're the side character. The story is ALLLLL about Ana.
In terms of stylization, my favorites are Undercover, 2012, and Unbound.
and Underground
I love Undergrounds styling
narrow lichen
also missions, they are lacking in Unbound, its always deliver car from A-to-B, after a while they make up an excuse to reuse cars that being Yaz changing her ways and Tess becoming mr. krabs
pine sleet
Yeah, Unbound story has a good start and ending but it's dead in between outside of the dialogue
pine sleet
Rydell and Tess are my favorites
Tess is annoying but she's supposed to be annoying so that's fine
narrow lichen
Rydell and Tess together are a fun combo, but whenever she talks to the player its 
but i guess yeah shes a comedic relief annoying character
pine sleet
Yaz is a bad character, well she's just a dumbass teenage girl so eh
Ana is a bad character, Lucas is okay ig, Payback's characters are the worst besides Rav.
narrow lichen
also the whole police apparently playing a big role is so fucked and shitty executed
narrow lichen
2015 is cringey but I like the characters
Manu is a G
pine sleet
Rivals, I haven't finished it but it's super dramatic so idk
narrow lichen
my favorite cast is probably Carbon
narrow lichen
Rivals, I haven't finished it but it's super dramatic so idk
theres 2 characters, Zephyr (racer protag) and F-8 (police protag)
both are the most 2014 thing ever
in terms of a cast i dislike its also MW2005, The acting is awful :)
Razor is not intimidating at all, Noone is in fact, Not even Cross
Cross steps his shit up in Carbon a little
pine sleet
Undercover, Zack is chill, I love G-Mac, hate Nickel in a good way, love Rose (down bad for Rose), Hector is cool, Carmen is alright (definitely a better latina than Ana), Chao Wu is a G, Chase is a solid antagonist
ProStreet, Ryo is a little bitch but I love Big J, Ryan is just a dude and you can't hate that
Carbon, probably the best written characters until Unbound.
Most Wanted, I hate all of them. They try too hard, but the Payback actors and their Fiverr ass performances makes them look professional.
narrow lichen
Carbon, probably the best written characters until Unbound.
i love the way they wrote neville as comedic relief, its just that he's underused
pine sleet
UG2, solid but the story is not deep enough to wrap around the long ass campaign properly
narrow lichen
UG2, solid but the story is not deep enough to wrap around the long ass campaign...
imo the UG games are more of a career than a story mode
pine sleet
UG1 was the first and was executed pretty well so no hate there
narrow lichen
as a career they do it well
pine sleet
ProStreet is moreso that
UG1 too ig
UG2 has a proper bad guy though
Who actively tries to shut you down, even almost killing you at the start
out of all of NFS
The best characters from least so to most so
I'd say
3) Jack Rourke
2) Rydell
- Neville
narrow lichen
I'd say
3) Jack Rourke
2) Rydell
1) Neville
i hope neville isnt biased because of the actor's recent passing (RIP)
Neville is a great character tho i agree, criminally underused
pine sleet
No, but he is the funniest character of them all
Rydell is a close close second though
narrow lichen
nah the funniest characters are the NFSMW2005 ones, cause their acting is fucking funny
pine sleet
their acting is hilariously bad*
narrow lichen
their acting is hilariously bad*
razor is such a fucking yapper
"my 60 footer quarter mile"
wtf does he mean by 60 footer?
pine sleet
he's gayer than Roshni unironically
narrow lichen
the only good character in that game is Rog, and mia is alr ig she doesnt try that hard
pine sleet
Rog was a homie yeah
narrow lichen
Mia is the least supportive character aside from giving you starting basic bitch shit
she only says "wow youre good anyway bye lmfoa"
pine sleet
narrow lichen
https://youtu.be/2FhCCBXhNr4?si=m-2vYyKbu7UztZ-l
fucking goosebumps
winter idol
blackpanthaa !!!!
smoky meadow
Does anyone have a picture of the event with the cover that referenced NFS 1994 Road and track for that event in Unbound?
narrow lichen
is it just me or NFS Heat ruined by EA?
Its got a great foundation, a fantastic story (for NFS Standards) and fun progression, it just lacks the shell around it and stuff
kind rivet
is it just me or NFS Heat ruined by EA?
Its got a great foundation, a fantasti...
EA did dissolve Ghost, the studio behind Heat a few months after release
pine sleet
its all show and no go
narrow lichen
its all show and no go
its got some go with the in my opinion fun Day n Nite game routine
pine sleet
even if the updates planned had come out, we woulda only had cars and maybe a pvp update at the end of its miserable life
kind rivet
lmao
narrow lichen
it would need a few patches and an actual living post-launch support
pine sleet
Unbound is what Heat should've been in the first place anyways
narrow lichen
Unbound is basically a better Heat with a cool artstyle but imo worse story
lowkey hope the next NFS does proper offroading cause offroading in Heat was fucking dookie and Unbound its kinda useless
magic halo
imagine hearing a "fuck" in NFS tho
i wanna hear that so badly
just swear its a fucking nfs game not the crew
or forza
pine sleet
hope the next nfs isnt kids based
You say that but NFS kinda always was
magic halo
oh
pine sleet
NFS was always a game for all ages
magic halo
well unbound was very obvious
pine sleet
Unbound is as obvious, if not moreso than Underground
magic halo
NFS was *always* a game for all ages
well of heat its 16+
narrow lichen
90s kids liked cool montages and cinematics and stuff
2000s kids liked cars that were flashy and coo-razyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
2010s kids liked coo-raaaaaaazyyyyy shit and loud music
now its rap and cool looking artstyles
pine sleet
Heat and Unbound are both rated for Teens by the ESRB lmao
magic halo
the artstyle is alright i guess
narrow lichen
depends on the kid in question tho
12 year olds like Hazbin hotel for example
and the normal fucking kids like anything else literally
narrow lichen
me after hearing "shit" in NFS for the first time
i hope the next NFS has Daihatsu
i wanna pimp the shit out of a Daihatsu Midget II
magic halo
hope it comes with new brands
pine sleet
nah fuck the kids (dont)
magic halo
aimee will take that literally
narrow lichen
nah fuck the kids (dont)
i wanna do some skids, not for the kids, fuck the kids (dont do that)
pine sleet
Kids play GTA so who cares anyways in reality
magic halo
true
narrow lichen
i hope the next NFS isnt just 2015 but with a few new cars and a different map
i lowkey want an NFS game that will introduce drivable bikes or sum shit
magic halo
nah
kind rivet
doubt that’ll happen
kind rivet
doubt that’ll happen
pine sleet
Payback = 2015 standalone DLC
Heat = Payback 2
Unbound actually feels fresh
kind rivet
heat≠payback 2
pine sleet
but I'm thinking that 'Merica City plate already gave away the next location, really leaning in on the GTA shit if that ever endds up being true
kind rivet
can your bullshit
magic halo
''merica city'' kinda goofy name
kind rivet
you mean a nfs game that didn’t attempt to try F&F’s flow?
pine sleet
There is supposedly a city in New York called Yonkers so America City wouldn't be so bad
They named a city after funny tyler song
kind rivet
also there will be no new nfs, after seeing what happened to bf2042
pine sleet
you mean a nfs game that didn’t attempt to try F&F’s flow?
The George Floyd cops NFS 
ngl if it weren't for the dogshit voice acting, Paybacks missions could be badass
kind rivet
no, the “steal a fucking regera from people that know EVERYTHING about you” instead of steadily grinding
pine sleet
"steal a regera from the mafia" instead of "take a backseat bc empowered woman is the main character"
pine sleet
I'd much rather Payback if Payback didn't steer into the abyss near the end with the self-driving cars bullshit
kind rivet
I would rather much payback when it didn’t cornhole me into doing challenges to customize a individual part of a car
shame they didn’t learn from that lol
pine sleet
Blame the community for wanting more progression
kind rivet
now you have to do challenges for a whole fucking car.
pine sleet
Even though 2015 did it too, locking most parts behind Amy's story
magic halo
the upgrading system was the shittiest of the shittiest from payback
pine sleet
which fair enough, she was the mechanic and all but
Yeah, Payback had the worst upgrade system, a gambler based one
kind rivet
the upgrading system was the shittiest of the shittiest from payback
literal advanced warfare obsidian steed bal energy
pine sleet
It worked with the vibe but sucked ass as an actual mechanic
magic halo
trueeeeee
pine sleet
That's one of the few things Heat ACTUALLY has over Payback and you know I'm right when that was a point they had to verbally mention in the gameplay trailer
smoky meadow
Heh
pine sleet
They ditched speedcross, they ditched drag races, they ditched the already barebones freedrive, and they also ditched speedlists
Like Unbound didn't have any of that at launch but at least the split multiplayer meant the multiplayer had something to it
even if the grind sucked ass originally
kind rivet
even if the grind sucked ass originally
nah say that again
the unbound season 1 economy
was a absolutely shite experience
paired with having to re-upgrade your garage
pine sleet
Thank god that Unbound had actual content updates though
and not just cars like the dumbass fans wanted
Hell, I didn't even realize/care that they added the Maybach until they mentioned "the ultimate luxury" without actually showing the car
Like fuck the cars, they're just the cherry on top
kind rivet
would’ve been better off with a S65 imo
magic halo
true
kind rivet
i find funny when the races with small roads get reused for hot pursuit races
if you look close enough you can see the Range Rover hiding behind the wall
magic halo
i find funny when the races with small roads get reused for hot pursuit races
I SEE YOU RANGE ROVER
YEAH YOU RIGHT THERE
pine sleet
nah maybach is cooler than a regular ass benz
kind rivet
S65 looks lightyears cleaner than that Maybach
also regular ass benz is a insane way to describe the S65 lmao
pine sleet
eh
smoky meadow
I agree the S65 looks much better
But the S65 that looks even better was the older S65
God I loved this thing
Made a seriously mean noise too
This is the car that NFS should have added but never did
But frankly NFS never had an S Klasse
So the fact that the S680 came to Unbound is nothing short of miracle
smoky meadow
Man you're tasteless if that's eh to you
shy summit
EA did dissolve Ghost, the studio behind Heat a few months after release
they basically confirmed it when Payback had EA mandated lootboxes in
kind rivet
Murci in A+ class and a 959, plus a R8 on the last race
narrow lichen
Rivals heat 9 cops: Pllssss dont speed oh well
heat 10 cops: Now you die.
magic halo
Murci in A+ class and a 959, plus a R8 on the last race
that matt black finish with the rain droplets on it looks so good
narrow lichen
i feel like trying NFS MW redux, is it a good mod? or is it just a shitty wannabe remaster?
magic halo
its a remaster or like just only changes its graphics as if the game is made in 2024?
kind rivet
welcome to the average A+ lobby
would be nice if they tweaked the base perf level numbers or engine swap numbers but eh
magic halo
i havent met alot of R8 kids in one server most of the time its just one person that cant drive for some reason lol
i can fairly well beat them with my drag mustang
yeah i dont recommend you using the rx8 in pvp lobies i have one too and i sucked hard lol
smoky meadow
Annoying
magic halo
Annoying
well thats the meta ofc unfortunately...
if theres an op car they all only gonna use that one
kind rivet
R8 tops out easily too lol
magic halo
yeah pretty fast too
kind rivet
most i run into top out at 159
magic halo
R8 tops out easily too lol
a Z4?? who even bother with that car?? lmao
kind rivet
hell if i know
magic halo
could be good secretly
kind rivet
if anything it would have to be C63
barely anyone uses it
is decent until you meet a r8
kind rivet
if anything it was extremely competitive because the R8
kind rivet
guess ill downgrade my c63 to A+
recommend you just buy a second
i have a c63 in A+ and S
magic halo
oh same lol
kind rivet
the A+ class one has a Jaguar V8 swap apparently
magic halo
mine kinda sucks on s have not found a good tune yet for it
smoky meadow
if theres an op car they all only gonna use that one
Sadly that is true
magic halo
i have a c63 in A+ and S
is yours engine swapped? of S class? i hope not because i love the c63 stock engine sound
kind rivet
is yours engine swapped? of S class? i hope not because i love the c63 stock eng...
mine’s is original engine
magic halo
ah awesome
kind rivet
I was gonna v12 swap because it looks like a S65 but it’d be overlevel
magic halo
fair
kind rivet
also i think the Jag v8 doesn’t have better stats than stock in S class
magic halo
oh weird
kind rivet
I’ll have to check idk
kind rivet
gonna have to clean my xbox tho, fan’s roaring lol
kind rivet
I’ve had mines for two years so
winged rune
I feel like I'm racing against myself at this point, we literally have the same car with the same tune
smoky meadow
hmm
magic halo
I feel like I'm racing against myself at this point, we literally have the same ...
Had that too with my porsche GTS lol
Was fun tbf unexpected af
winged rune
Yk what? Fuck Ejiva and Regera drivers, they are both the shittiest drivers I've ever seen in this damn game, bro kept crashing into my car and didn't even took a single clean corner
Imagine beaing beaten by a r32 while being in the fastest car of the game
magic halo
I only do with the evija vs regera
But in general i dont because its too unfair
Always will use my 918 over them
winged rune
I only do with the evija vs regera
The crew gran races:
kind rivet
I don't wanna be seen in an op car
me fr
magic halo
I don't wanna be seen in an op car
Literally me ong💀
Dont wanna be a part of those meta only kids
narrow lichen
playing Undercover for the first time and this game is extremely 50/50
on one hand it playes incredibly well and has some real 👌 sound design
but sometimes it just kinda... gets confusing and feels extremely linear compared to the previous NFS games
the game even has a FAST fast travel to a random ass race
shy summit
I read a developer note on why they did that
I don't remember what it said so it can't have been a good reason
But the game itself, great imo
magic halo
Nvm i completed the challenge lol
narrow lichen
But the game itself, great imo
yeah i am having great fun with it, the physics are responsive and nice, the Speedbreaker finally doesnt just shove my car across the fucking road and the difficulty is fun-hard and it makes the game satisfying
magic halo
Must say the C63 does really decent in this class
narrow lichen
Im sorry forza, your models arent that bad.
wide crystal
yeah, undercover's models do get fucked up due to its prostreet engine
smoky meadow
Didn't know about that
narrow lichen
yeah, undercover's models do get fucked up due to its prostreet engine
entering and exiting the garage fixed that
narrow lichen
i genuinely fucking hate this event
pine sleet
Im sorry forza, your models arent that bad.
wait thats not normal
narrow lichen
wait thats not normal
well yeah someone already said its because of the ProStreet engine
pine sleet
it's not on the prostreet engine
smoky meadow
It was on Unreal engine I believe'
pine sleet
nope
smoky meadow
Was it EAGL?
smoky meadow
Oh, right. I forgot about Havok
pine sleet
Shift series was on Madness
Hot Pursuit and Most Wanted are on Chameleon
(burnout paradise is NOT btw, it was built on Renderware)
smoky meadow
I thought it was
pine sleet
The Run was on Frostbite 2
smoky meadow
Given its similarity to those
pine sleet
and Rivals+ is on Frostbite 3
Assemble is on UE4 iirc
idk if it wass UE5 but it doesn't run like absolute shit, so I assume UE4
smoky meadow
i wonder if Criterion will switch over to UE4/5 for the next game. Seems like a logical step as most game developers and franchises are doing that
pine sleet
I kinda doubt it
smoky meadow
Frostbite is just a very incapable engine
pine sleet
EA isn't forcing FB3 as far as I'm aware but Unbound being what it is, I think we're minimum getting one more FB3 game
shy summit
unless resource sharing with codies
Cos WRC was Unreal
Which is very possible
and hopefully will lead to a non-forza map
smoky meadow
~~and hopefully will lead to a non-forza map~~
non-forza map?
smoky meadow
Cos WRC was Unreal
Yeah it seems possible then
Maybe that's why Unbound is being supported for so long
pine sleet
non-forza map?
open fields and all
smoky meadow
And the next game is no where to be seen
smoky meadow
open fields and all
oh, so you want full city maps back in NFS
pine sleet
I can excuse it for Unbound bc takeovers and linkups use a lot of them but still
Not me, I would like a bit of country side or some shit, just as long as it isn't as dead and empty as Payback
smoky meadow
I can excuse it for Unbound bc takeovers and linkups use a lot of them but still
I guess it's just not fitting when there's no proper offroading
But I too like proper driving roads
They're best in Horizon games
Speeding through them, enjoying the view
Heat didn't have many nice driving roads sadly
shy summit
I can excuse it for Unbound bc takeovers and linkups use a lot of them but still
uh, no
shy summit
the "takeovers" are specifically made
the one linkup in a field is the worst one and also has been designed to host events
pine sleet
thats your opinion, the linkup one anyways
tbh my worst is the one on the hill
but the field ones are fine, the golf course one was fun too
shy summit
I just realised thats a golf course not just a field with two ramps in it
The sand banks should have clued me in but the map design meant I just stopped thinking about where I was because it didn't matter
smoky meadow
Heh
pine sleet
connor moment
smoky meadow
Yeah typical
shy summit
It happens in a lot of games tbf
smoky meadow
True
pine sleet
I hate that they exist but then again if they did do anything else with off-road, they could make races out of the old off-road drift events
But everyone knows that nobody cares about off-road all that much anyways so eh
kind rivet
Skyline cop car in a normal S class race (pc obviously)
pine sleet
I am guilty of grabbing cop cars for my normal garage, but I wouldn't race them bc infinite nitrous
kind rivet
(and yes i do have a gt2rs in S class, it’s fun to absolutely wipe R8s)
kind rivet
I am guilty of grabbing cop cars for my normal garage, but I wouldn't race them ...
even in normal races?
pine sleet
Ye, I used to main a GT2
I don't race them at all, maybe use them in linkups but that's the most
infinite nitrous benefits everyone though I won't abuse it too much
winged rune
My devil z will
magic halo
Skyline cop car in a normal S class race (pc obviously)
How do people even know to hack like that?😭
kind rivet
How do people even know to hack like that?😭
like i said, pc catching major W’s with this update
oh and the gt2rs in s class is absolutely busted
magic halo
Nice
magic halo
Cant tell if i have the gt2rs or its a gtr3 i forgor
magic halo
LMAO soo true
narrow lichen
what does the game mean by discovering its showroom?
is it a really fancy way of saying "progress" or a "this game has an open world yk?"
shy summit
what does the game mean by discovering its showroom?
is it a really fancy way o...
progression basically
you'll get a call saying you unlocked whatever in each region
narrow lichen
you'll get a call saying you unlocked whatever in each region
i see, its a weird way to say progress tbh, just say "progress through the career to unlock" or sum shit
shy summit
yeah the whole game has stuff like that
It might be wheelman level related but I always unlock it at about the same time
vagrant sparrow
NFS DLC idea:
Driver
Price: $19,99
DLC Included Cars:
2023 KIA Stinger GT2
2025 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
2024 Mercedes-AMG GT63 S E Performance
2024 Audi RS3 Sportsback
2024 Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT
Getaway Legends Car Pack (standalone but a tie in)
Price: $9,99
2008 BMW M5 (E60)
2007 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S
2009 Audi RS4
1991 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
New character you encounter throughout the DLC: Smith
Role: Broker
Personality: Secretive, professional, paranoid
You get introduced to Smith by a mutual in search for riches. Smith will give you special missions, be it just driving around important people, or participating in heists as a getaway driver.
The DLC will offer high octane action with vibes of The Run and action movies about getaway drivers.
DLC will also introduce Need4Ride, a phone app that lets you become a sort of Uber driver and earn freeroam income
Would people be interested in DLCs like this? Just asking out of interest
magic halo
Oh honestly i would buy it
pine sleet
eh
kind rivet
too much effort
especially when there’s rumors that the battlefield franchise is getting another entry lol
but in general too risky of a investment for the shitbag shareholders
pine sleet
yeah, Electronic "home of racing games" Arts is always gonna prioritize the shooter over the racer
shy summit
Can't blame them in their current situation
last two games in both franchises were flops
NFS's last success was under an axed studio
Battlefield's last flop sold way more than NFS's
And there's more reasons but I'm supposed to be on a mini break
pine sleet
I mean they were critical flops yet they managed to pass off as bestsellers
both of them, though Battlefield still did better
Battlefield was like top 3, Unbound was 4th best in Europe and 8th in America
vagrant sparrow
Can't blame them in their current situation
Im just asking hypothetically if there would be appeal for this kind of DLC yknow
Not talking about a specific title
shy summit
Wasn't referencing what you said directly, more about the comments after
Also I don't know that Unbound was a best seller? Maybe for a week or something??? but that's weak compared to most games
magic halo
Its still best seller or not? If not that because of yall crying kids hating on unbound and that it wasnt a mw2005 remaster
Game unfortunately got too many negative reviews
shy summit
I don't get that argument.
1: not a fan of MW05 as is well documented here
2: the game has obvious flaws that cost it the respect and playerbase of other recent titles
magic halo
true
bronze iris
Nfs fans
pine sleet
I don't get that argument.
1: not a fan of MW05 as is well documented here
2: th...
(he isnt a fan of nfs at all)
pine sleet
i sometimes think its just not for him
its like a souls player not liking final fantasy
pine sleet
you really do that to yourself
shy summit
m, not really but whatever helps you not self reflect at night
rather just keep the peace at this point
pine sleet
whatever you say bud
kind rivet
Its still best seller or not? If not that because of yall crying kids hating on ...
it’s funny seeing those reviews lol
believe me there isn’t gonna be a remaster, if anything I’m betting if they ever do another remaster it’d either be shift or a more recent game
pre Payback
shy summit
They won't remaster shift
kind rivet
too much licenses to obtain probs
shy summit
Plus who do you sell it to
kind rivet
would be nice if we got a prostreet port instead
shy summit
That would be interesting to see
Game needs a remake more than any other in the series
kind rivet
but knowing ea they won’t be taking risks
shy summit
I mean it's also difficult and they might not have the source code
kind rivet
yeah this is blackbox era stuff lol
shy summit
They also just took a gamble with Unbound that didn't pay off (next gen only needlessly, the character art style, the smoke effects) so whatever comes next is likely going to be more safe in those regards at least
kind rivet
i could sorta see the next gen only thing because it’s the one game that has my xbox fan singing
and seeing how the entry beforehand handled on old gen unbound would not have bode well
shy summit
They're gonna be forced to be like the crew and forza
given those franchises aren't doing so hot rn and would be a massive risk for NFS, probably not no
shy summit
I can't tell with you
kind rivet
if nfs ever adopts a festival themed scenario then I’ll loudly proclaim the racing game genre outside of simracing is dead
kind rivet
oh fuck
shy summit
lmao
pine sleet
ProStreet and Heat are festival racers, except Heat's festival part is weak as shit
kind rivet
prostreet was a lot grittier and shi
pine sleet
arguably weaker than Forza
shy summit
Heats festival is to serve the gameplay loop
pine sleet
I wish Heat was just a nighttime game, but then again people would bitch about no daytime
kind rivet
the festival part in heat was also a reason to have races at day
shy summit
Another example of how back to basics gameplay kinda saves any product
I mean look at The Long Drive, unstable, buggy, but you're there for the gameplay experience
kind rivet
the absolute wackiness
shy summit
yeah
kind rivet
the funny client-side desync moment
shy summit
I keep almost buying that game. My non-car guy friends bought it and love it
magic halo
NFS Unbound x NISMO :JAPAN_FLAG:
It's not just Need for Speed celebrating their decades-long history: NISMO, the world-renowned tuning arm of Nissan, is celebrating their 40th birthday this year, and they've collaborated with Criterion Games to deliver special Playlists featuring two of the marque's vehicles currently in Unbound.
Earn Bonus XP and Cash as you experience the raw power, precision engineering, and racing heritage that define NISMO. Feel the adrenaline of driving machines born from the most unforgiving proving ground—the racetrack.
Since 1984, NISMO has been the heartbeat of Nissan's high-performance pursuits, channeling insights from the world's toughest races into street-ready masterpieces.
The celebrations started a few days ago, and this event runs until September 23rd; hop into the game and try your hand in taming the Nissan GT-R NISMO (R35) '17 and Nissan 370Z NISMO (Z34) '19!
Original Instagram post announcing this partnership right here.
-# || @News ||
I honestly didnt know this
Actually happy birthday NISMO!!❤️
earnest estuary
Happy birthday Nismo my beloved
smoky meadow
bruh, that's such a missed opporunity
smoky meadow
Meanwhile
nah you've just realy grown uninterested in it
There's practically nothing you ever show love for in modern racing games
let alone NFS
Maybe you've just grown tired of the genre as a whole
shy summit
Sure, maybe. But I still play racing games more often than any other genre
smoky meadow
Sure, maybe. But I still play racing games more often than any other genre
me too, but I do feel what you feel. Modern racing games just make one feel so disenfranchised sometimes
I love Racing games above all other genres
But sometimes it's nice to step away from it as well to realize what you have and what you don't
Then maybe it'll end up becoming more enjoyable
shy summit
Maybe
But I'm having fun in Assetto, BeamNG etc etc
Looking forward to Nightrunners and updates for TDUSC.
Oh and cautious optimism for TXR
smoky meadow
Looking forward to Nightrunners and updates for TDUSC.
Oh and cautious optimism ...
TDUSC really does need those updates.
But they won't come any time soon if the game's constant delays were a sign of things
smoky meadow
But I'm having fun in Assetto, BeamNG etc etc
Glad you find fun in those at least
I speak from experience by the way regarding stepping away
Like I played Darksiders 3 which was obviously not a racing game
And after I came back to playing Forza Horizon 4, it just became so much more enjoyable
You sometimes need to readjust your expectations from games as well to be able to enjoy them
not every game needs to meet every demand and such. Sometimes it's nice to just enjoy what the game has, than lament on what it doesn't
shy summit
I know too, I did that the last time Criterion took over nfs
and ended up playing The Crew 1
smoky meadow
Yeah it's nice to broaden horizons
shy summit
hence the above
smoky meadow
Still though, i don't think unbound is in a state wehre it's considered as bad
It's come a long way since launch
But if it's just not enjoyable to you regardless, then that's just unfortunate
And I doubt there's much that can be done to make you change your opinion
Who knows, maybe the next NFS title will capture your heart
shy summit
it's come a way since launch
shy summit
Who knows, maybe the next NFS title will capture your heart
I'm optimistic about that
Unbounds failure has hopefully pulled a few sticks out of their arses
in a way I'm glad as it shows EA and Criterion that most NFS fans won't accept something without soul, character and design
well, apart from roughly 500 of them lmaooo
smoky meadow
Like Nico has said, Unbound came in an awkward state and an awkward time. It wasn't a good time in any way for the devs and the game. So it's been mainly purposeful as a test bed of sorts for future features to be normalized from here on out . I don't see Criterion going away and a new dev team and idea as a whole coming along. So maybe that Criteion has now found its footing and been making new feattures and such available as the game ages, it'll mean best for the future title that it won't have to go through all of this problem
smoky meadow
in a way I'm glad as it shows EA and Criterion that most NFS fans won't accept s...
I wouldn't say Unbound hasn't got soul, character and design
But hey, if you think that way
I thought Heat was without character
But you clearly think teh opposite of that
So I guess it's about seeing or not seeing something that others don't see or see
shy summit
I hope you get to try Unbound one day
smoky meadow
I really do
I look forward to it
Especially if I get to drive the Maybach
And the 190E
shy summit
it would be really interesting to see your thoughts
shy summit
Especially if I get to drive the Maybach
You're the one person to say that XD
smoky meadow
You're the one person to say that XD
Naaah Unbound players love that car
For one, it's a Maybach that's extrmeely trendy and popular
for two, it fits the character and style of Unbound quite well
For three, it's just a cool type of car that we've not had before for a long time
Plus it drives nicely and does well in events
smoky meadow
it would be really interesting to see your thoughts
Glad you're interested in my thoughts.
I am generally rather easy going with games that i get to have alot of expeirence with
I mean I disliked the run at first, but after the 2nd play through with better knowledge, I definitely feel the game alot better
And can categorically say, I love the run
I enjoyed Heat too
The driving was fun, unless it was with certain cars
The simple old school system was nice to see in a modern game
THe map was extrmeley iconic and memorable
And it had added back Ferraris, that's already a point from me
My main issues lied with the story and characters, Way too little, and what's there is extrmeley annoying
and the trailers just suggested something that the final game didn't have
It suggested a much stronger atmosphere than the actual game ended up having
Plus the rather bad cop chases where you had no way to fight back unless you went over a jump over a patch of water and god just deicdes to smite them down mid-air
pine sleet
You're the one person to say that XD
you'd be surprised
the maybach is a surprisingly good car
It's solid in A+, and I've seen it here and there in S
I've even seen in in linkups sometimes
smoky meadow
Yeah it's mainly good in take overs
But the fact that it's solid elsewhere is good too
pine sleet
I wanna use mine (downgraded it to A+) in a gauntlet
smoky meadow
It's one of the few heavy cars which is actually competitive
And all of this without even having the Kaizen handling
pine sleet
This is it now btw
bc I had an idea for some fun
and i think it was you who considered the idea of the Maybach being a kind of marked man
the VIP
smoky meadow
This is it now btw
Eyyy, this almst exactly looks like my toy
smoky meadow
and i think it was you who considered the idea of the Maybach being a kind of ma...
I think it was Ditto actually
He did suggest it as one of the cars for a marked man sort of game mode
Plus it makes perfect sense
high notority figures always ride in S-Classes
pine sleet
ahh
pine sleet
firetruck
smoky meadow
It's shocking how easily it dwarfs every other car before it that we called large
pine sleet
not the mac attack or firetruck
pine sleet
That's not playable though, nor has it ever been
Carbon
pine sleet
The biggest vehicle is from NFS 2
smoky meadow
I meant recent NFS games though
smoky meadow
as in, this is the biggest car in recent NFS games
well, length wise at least
I think tallest and overall biggest in volume is still the F-150 Raptor
smoky meadow
Oh recently, then yeah
Thank you however
magic halo
Oh shit i totally forgot to do the new underground league
winged rune
10/10 
earnest estuary
💀
winged rune
fans of a great game asking to join a level 50 crew to get the fxxk
kind rivet
magic halo
earnest estuary
Shots fired
kind rivet
unbound fans 🤝 fallout new vegas fans
pine sleet
?
glacial kindle
if Heat is great Unbound must be out of this world
Idk I like heats story but unbounds physics since if I crash I don't implode
So I like heat more but I think unbound is more fun after the story
Since multiplayer
Ignoring that there's no end game in unbound
Worth getting?
vagrant sparrow
Worth getting?
Cheaper on steam
winged rune
trash game*
magic halo
heat deserves better
winged rune
Oh damn i think ill buy that hp remaster real quick
The game is not on sale on xbox
magic halo
oh
winged rune
Its 40 euros
magic halo
shit
magic halo
well i do want it on pc but mine sucks and low on storage
winged rune
The songs, the car sounds, the graphics... everything is perfect in this game
magic halo
yes
pine sleet
heat is a vibe and nothing else
magic halo
well yeah true
winged rune
If you can run euro truck you can run hp
magic halo
euro truck doesnt need insane pc specs to run
pine sleet
like 2015 except 2015 has some meat to go with its potatoes
magic halo
real characters are definitely something i do prefer but that one was eh cringe could've done better
magic halo
same
smoky meadow
like 2015 except 2015 has some meat to go with its potatoes
I guess Heat is like a low volume limited production sports car
It doesn't have alot to it, it isn't very carefully made, it isn't even that good or high quality or amazing in numbers
But the feel and character that it provided, plus it being the game to return to doing things the way fans wanted specifically, is why it left such a lasting impression and that is something Unbound, despite everything, has yet to accomplish
That's my take at least. It's in a similar way as to why an Alpine A110 is more beloved than a Porsche Cayman 718 to those who have experienced it.
pine sleet
my only complaint with the story was that spike shoulda had his villain arc
magic halo
FR
pine sleet
goes to show people dont care if a game is good or not
smoky meadow
Well, it is a justifiable reason
Many vehicles we like were never very good in terms of numbers alone either
Maybe that character, that spark, that feel of it being genuine, is what Unbound needed above all to be able to seal the deal
Unbound's character and story left such a bad impression from the get go
pine sleet
i mean my favorite car as ahead of its time with a four-wheel ssteering system and some other tech so thats just me
smoky meadow
I have many favorite high tech cars too
But it doesn't mean we haven't liked limited tech and bad cars either
magic halo
what unbound did with story was a good idea but wasnt that great as expected
smoky meadow
I mean why do you think people buy Rolls Royce when there's no real reason to?
smoky meadow
what unbound did with story was a good idea but wasnt that great as expected
It was poor in execution
Heat's story wasn't much better either
magic halo
you're right
smoky meadow
But I guess the character was what it had that Unbound didn't
Again, this is just my guess
Unbound also just came at a bad time all things considered
magic halo
what i def liked about the story was stealing the cars back instead of doing it for tess
winged rune
what unbound did with story was a good idea but wasnt that great as expected
Boring
smoky meadow
People were still salty after what happened with Ghost and what happened with Criteion getting split into several teams with constant delays and not much to look forward to
pine sleet
Heat was horribly executed
Unbound was also horribly executed
but none worse than Heat
Payback* sorry
smoky meadow
And in truth, in the launch days, Unbound wasn't any better than Heat
pine sleet
Payback has the WORST executed story since UG2
magic halo
payback was cringe as hell but still wanna know what happens at the end of the story SMH
smoky meadow
Payback's story definitely takes the cake
Being able to take such a cool and in-depth plot
winged rune
payback was cringe as hell but still wanna know what happens at the end of the s...
I need to finish that game
smoky meadow
And managing it to make it as infuriating and uninteresting as possible
winged rune
Progression isnt bad on this game
magic halo
true
pine sleet
Coulda been a simple story but no, let's take down the mafia by doing absolutely nothing to them
winged rune
But the end game is probably empty af
pine sleet
Oh they lost some money but the fucker is on the loose still
magic halo
Coulda been a simple story but no, let's take down the mafia by doing absolutely...
no guns too >:p
smoky meadow
Coulda been a simple story but no, let's take down the mafia by doing absolutely...
Indeed. The emptiness of the story which promotes itself to be so much more. That pretention is what hurt most
magic halo
no actual cool action
winged rune
no guns too >:p
Friendly mafia
pine sleet
At least Mercer was implied to have been killed
smoky meadow
Indeed
magic halo
At least Mercer was implied to have been killed
and she took hes place
winged rune
At least Mercer was implied to have been killed
I hope he will come back in another nfs title
pine sleet
I will say this though, despite the stories being weak, Unbound is definitely the best of the three both on paper and in execution.
winged rune
That would be so cool
smoky meadow
All things considered, I think if Heat's story was a bit better structured, a bit longer and a bit better acted, it could have definitely been one of the best story based games of not just the racing genre, but games in general.
earnest estuary
I had a concept of a racing game where instead of "X number of cops taken down" it says "Killstreak"
pine sleet
So there are slow but sure improvements, maybe the next game will finally have a good story
magic halo
i hope the next isnt friendly based
winged rune
I worked for mercer, he is a fraud
magic halo
or for young audience...
smoky meadow
So there are slow but sure improvements, maybe the next game will finally have a...
At this point, I don't hope that. I expect that
smoky meadow
i hope the next isnt friendly based
Of course it'll be catered to those
pine sleet
Heat shouldn't have done the Riveras telenovela route
smoky meadow
Why do you think Unbound's story is the way it is?
pine sleet
Instead it shoulda been a take 2 at a payback story starring Joe
smoky meadow
It's leftist street racers thinking they're anything aside from scum
pine sleet
and then leave the preset characters to be actual characters or at least online personas or something like Unbound
smoky meadow
Unbound story is pure proof that NFS has gone soft and woke
winged rune
Instead it shoulda been a take 2 at a payback story starring Joe
I hate the fact that the cover car lasted 2 minutes
And we dont know shit about joe
magic halo
Why do you think Unbound's story is the way it is?
imo wished they let rydell do more in the story instead of staying in the garage for the whole story and doing absolutely nothing but giving you these missions to bring the customers cars
pine sleet
It's leftist street racers thinking they're anything aside from scum
Literally only Harlow comes off that way, most of them are asking why the cops are cracking down as hard as they are but they're still racing because Yaz said fuck the police
smoky meadow
Literally only Harlow comes off that way, most of them are asking why the cops a...
But they shouldn't even ask a single question as to why they're cracking down on them
Literally never would a criminal of any sort ask why police are after them.
pine sleet
How Heat should've started is you're in the silver Polestar at the beginning of the game, you, Ana, and Richie are racing in order to get into the league
smoky meadow
Unbound's whole thing is poor
pine sleet
Cut to a cutscene where Joe crashes the Polestar
winged rune
How Heat should've started is you're in the silver Polestar at the beginning of ...
Yeah
magic halo
We dont know
ask criterion
winged rune
Unbound story is pure proof that NFS has gone soft and woke
I agree
magic halo
Unbound story is pure proof that NFS has gone soft and woke
unfortunately you're right
pine sleet
Then you do some races with the new and improved KS Polestar until it drowns in the one scene, instead of being let go they simply arrest you, you get out and the Polestar was crushed
smoky meadow
unfortunately you're right
Thak you both, Forced and Furxy
pine sleet
So Joe has to start over, gets back with Richie and Ana, and starts making a name for himself and his crew while trying to find info about the corruption in Mercer's task force
smoky meadow
That would have been so much better
pine sleet
But no, he pussies out and now our (side) character comes in
winged rune
Criterion wants to hire you
pine sleet
a fucking nomad who literally means nothing to the plot
magic halo
So Joe has to start over, gets back with Richie and Ana, and starts making a nam...
so yeah good to know. where is joe now since he just went there and left ana behind
pine sleet
He's back in Ventura obviously
winged rune
Ventura bay
smoky meadow
a fucking nomad who literally means nothing to the plot
You know what's most depressing about Heat and Unbound stories relaied to corrupt police forces?
pine sleet
oh and insult to injury after the game you have Ana getting a text from Joe and she's like "fuck you i have my new crew" total fucking gotcha right guys?
winged rune
would hope hes doing better there
He maybe met ken block there lol
pine sleet
You know what's most depressing about Heat and Unbound stories relaied to corrup...
With Unbound it's not even corrupt police, just that they're cracking down super hard on street racing
smoky meadow
They had already done this exact plot and premise once before, and looking back on it, it was so much better done in that instance.
That instance, hilariously enough, being NFS Rivals
smoky meadow
Rivals' characters don't pretend to be anything aside from crooks
They just wanted to do whatever they wnated
Without anyone else in mind
they wanted to expose each other for personal gains
Not for a higher cause
They didn't pretend that they didn't deserve what they got
they simply presented the idea of "is going this hard worth it?"
pine sleet
In Rivals, they raced to go viral. Cops cracked down on then harder because they were domestic terrorists.
In 2015, they raced to have fun but Travis and the outlaws were winding up the cops which made them "crack down harder" on the scene.
In Unbound, they raced as a culture. The mayor was tired of it so she put the hammer down and ended street racing for a couple years.
pine sleet
Then they got tired of it and came back basically giving them a middle finger.
smoky meadow
Frankly, you know what would be nice to see in the next NFS game?
pine sleet
pregnant dj wess?