#Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell

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hazy moat
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Here's a dedicated channel for the still undefeated champion for the longest (Cosmere) story name: Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell

Spoiler Policy

  • Only Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell
  • Brief mentions of other books are acceptable (behind !spoilers tags), but for longer Cosmere conversations, it's best to go to #cosmere or a similar channel

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quaint crater
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mmm silver

eager pulsar
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Silver the Hedgehog, like from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020?! (released in 2019 for the Nintendo Switch)

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slate vapor
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A deep cut, but it is possible he refers to George silver, a 16/17th century swordsman

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Mayhaps it is Colonel Silver, from Dragon Ball (serialised in Weekly Shonen Jump in 1984, written and illustrated by Akira Toriyama)

slate vapor
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Maybe long John silver, from Stevenson's Treasure Island

alpine lark
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I actually really like Silence as a character

mighty ridge
vestal tusk
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The problem is that people have essentially already discussed all there is to discuss for stories like this one

mighty ridge
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We could fight about which character/reference is meant to be Hoid

vestal tusk
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None of them

mighty ridge
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Peter most recently said Hoid is in there somewhere

vestal tusk
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He's Silence

hazy moat
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Ah, we talked about it on Shardcast! Or will talk about it? We think Peter is wrong, there are multiple references to Brandon saying there's no Hoid here

bleak basin
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Cosmere general ||Have talked, will talk, it’s all the same in the Spiritual Realm||

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exotic musk
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Who is hoid in this book just finished and cant think of anyone really earnest is my best guess

nimble breach
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He may not be in it, but he also might be - iirc Brandon & co have gone back and forth on it

hollow lava
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Personally I like the idea that this isn't a story relevant to the wider Cosmere, just an isolated tale giving a glimpse of Threnodite life

hazy moat
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I believe we looked into it during a recent podcast, and Brandon has consistently said he is not there

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The confusion comes from a Peter comment

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mighty ridge
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Hoid sighting fight between Peter and Brandon

mighty ridge
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soft rapids
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we don't even know who Peter thinks is Hoid, so I don't know how we can say they "show all the markings of Hoid"

ionic yarrow
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minor general cosmere ||Hoid is also not in every book anyway||

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ionic yarrow
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iirc yeah

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cosmere all ||if we're counting mentions then King Lopen probably also counts I guess maybe?? I also don't remember if he had even a line in WOA (I know we know it solely from WOBs, but I can't remember if his unidentifiable role was on page). I think AOL also skipped him but I might be forgetting some unnamed mention or smth. oh, and Chasmfriends||

soft rapids
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[Cosmere all] ||I don't count King Lopen since iirc the references there are all about the job rather than the person
Brandon calls him in Well of Ascension a "cameo", so I assume he was onscreen, but I'm having a hard time finding where his specific role was confirmed so idk
in Alloy of Law he's a weird guy at the wedding speaking to Josh and Mi'ch, I believe
I forget, is ChasmFriends being told by Hoid or no?||

ionic yarrow
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||OH RIGHT I forgot that wedding was that book! idk about the picture book but CF in its current edition is not told by anyone specific. Hoid's role in WOA was leading the Terris refugees iirc||

soft rapids
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||re: WoA, I've heard that and the wiki says it, I just haven't found the actual source, just a few vaguer ones on him being in the group
if it's accurate then I think people talk to him though yeah||

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||if ChasmFriends isn't told by anyone specific then yeah that counts as a story with no appearance too, good point||

ionic yarrow
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Mistborn all ||I doubt the guy they talk to is him, Brandon said he's deeply disguised but I still don't think he'd talk like that. he could be the guy serving Elend tea but we don't know (or at least I don't)||

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mighty ridge
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Time to move over to #cosmere ?

ionic yarrow
shadow sluiceBOT
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Paraphrased

Rhapsody

Will the Threnody book take place in the Homeland?

Brandon Sanderson

The book is tentatively called The Dusk Brigade. A group wants to free the homeland of the Evil. It doesn't go well for them. Opening scene is all ships sinking and people washing up on shore.

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Claire obscure e33 spoilers ||this reminds me of when the expedition shows up on the mainland lol||

amber gale
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And this is basically all we can say without Sunlit - I would encourage you to read that if you want more Threnody

exotic musk
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Thats awesome

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I do know that nazh is a threnodite

amber gale
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Also Emberdark, there's some stuff in that that's also relevant