#Hades I & II
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FIRST TRY BABYYYYY XD
Hades 2 surface 2 ||one, I love that she uses her gun, thats silly, and two.... why is she like the easiest boss ive fought ๐คฃ||
Hades 2 surface 2 ||nooo cosmic you don't know how long eris was ruining my runs in early access ๐ญ ||
||me who didnt even know she was EA (I didnt get that far): ๐ฅด||
Hades 2 surface 3 ||what is up Athena, where is your hot brother||
Hades 2 surface ||very tempted to run the surface again to get to pookie ๐ฅด||
Also also (hades 2) ||moros is so so dorky I wanna kiss him so bad||
Hades 2 general ||also selene
she didnt do anything I just have to mention shes so pretty and her voice is so pretty and I just
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Hades 2 Down 1 ||I was able to avoid being sheeped ๐ ||
Omg I mustโve had that stupid boss at 2 health
Ahhhhhh
That wouldโve been a great way to end the night
Hades 2 summit ||I felt like I was doing alright for my first encounter with Typhon but who knows. Boy did it get late though...||
Hades 2 Olympus Summit ||So I misread what one of the Dio boons does and as a result can't see my hp bar and am now having the most anxiety inducing fight ever against Typhon since you can't see his bloody health bar either||
Just gives you a random health upgrade but you don't know how much it gave you
||How I read it "you gain a random amount of hp, we're not telling you how much" what actually happens "gives you a random amount of hp, you can no longer see your health bar for the rest of the run"||
||Ended up only taking 127 damage to Typhon in the end, so guess being on edge made me play less bad||
||Oh yeah that one
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||You can see your health bar, you just don't know what it is at. ๐ ||
Well, yeah but if they just simply show it on the bar, then you'd know exactly how much
It's annoying yes
But I unironically love it
Hades 2 ||I just won a hades run with attack dealing 99k damage and I didn't even have an attack boon.
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It changes my usual playstyle
Hades 2 story ||So... Is Zaggy just frozen in our time or?||
Where are you in the story?
Hades 2 up clear!
this is actually probably what my build really was (plus some magick restoration)
Hades 2 up end ||Damn, Dionysus statue, chill||
Hades 2 up end ||Damn, Aphrodite statue, chill||
That zone is so fricken gorgeous
||Uh.... This was before I got rid of Typhos.||
Hades 2 story ||Inception
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Yeah basically ||you're talking with past Zagreus in the dreams, but the Zagreus in the present is frozen in time||
That was my first reaction too, though here ||Grandpa Chronos' memories got added to our Chronos||
Also ||Zagreus' to this timelines||
Has anyone else gotten the [Hades 2 Relationship ending] ||Moros intimate scene yet?|| It was so jarring to get it especially as it happened after I lost to surface end boss ||Typhon||
Hades 2 story ||Okay I got rid of Typhos, gonna to take a nap now.||
one run ended at boss 3 and i'm ready to quit and go back to skong tonight :/
hades 2 early story ||is it just me or does it feel like we're getting hints that the gods may not be on the right side, exactly?||
Hades 2 up 2 ||Love how her portrait here is also sized down after circe lol||
that's really fun, I hadn't noticed it the other way but I am sure it worked there too
^ ||Does Eris comment on it? She commented when I was larger||
aw
Hades 2 story ||I am so saddened that you don't actually have the spear as a new weapon. Supergiant, you had like the perfect thing to write into the story of how to give players a new weapon, and make them use it. Why didn't you?||
Hades 2 up 3 ||It is so hard to take her seriously when she's tiny
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||I wonder if it is possible to echo boon both lorge and smol...||
||He is a Titan, this is normal
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man, rough boon quality this night
so many commons
Hades 2 ending ||He stole witch mom from me
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||HOLD UP MY CARD ITEM DIDN'T PROC, CHRONOS IS PLAYING THE LONG GAME HERE
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hades 2 final boss of ||typhon|| ||yeah.... this is kinda no fun. i'm just grinding through until my godmode resistance bonus starts cranking up inch by painful inch. this is not satisfying||
||literally thinking about just feeding in the initial areas until i hit 80%, ngl||
||kind of feeling that or just stop playing||
Hades 2 Down 2 ||I killed Scylla before she summoned the fish
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Hades 2 Down 2 ||I killed Scylla before she summoned the fish
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||Chronos has begun to mess with me
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Did you play the original Hades, Grey?
yup
You didn't have similar issues?
Interesting
I find that this one lands in essentially the same space for me, it's just like... 30% bigger
So maybe that pushes it over to feeling grindy?
i think i just want to beat the boss and i can't read this one
and i'm frustrated enough that i'm actually like, you know what, i don't care to learn it at this point
eff it, right
and honestly also like, including all enemies in the rooms leading up to this boss, too, but whatever
at some point i'll just have enough to facetank all this bs 
i truly, truly do not enjoy
||surface|| ||both olympus AND the summit enemies. they are super not fun. it doesn't feel like there's anything to be done to avoid damage||
I did find the last region more hectic and more punishing than the ones before, but oddly the boss didn't feel too bad
But I also build tanky
Hades 2 ending? ||Thats it, I am stabbing you. ๐คบ ||
||Hide and seek
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||So Zaggy was trapped.||
lmao god what even is the point
I beat the game. ๐
Well at least those credits were shorter than death stranding considering we couldnโt skip them lol
This was the best line in the game for me
Hades 2 ending ||What next? I still haven't woke up my Boi Hypnos, who I wanted to help at the start of the game, and still haven't found the fates.
Is this like a Grindy thing or just like one or two more runs kind of thing?||
||Like the first game, there's epilogue stuff, so you can keep doing all the side content you haven't yet||
Hades 2 up clear again! ||This one was actually kind of easy. Aspect of Moros felt really strong, though I am sure that +200% Attack damage boon helped ๐ ||
Yeah I like that aspect. No idea what I was doing that fight but it worked out somehow
Wait I never posted my clear here last night. Only did in another server. Hades 2 up ||Just spammed my omegas while standing in the vicinity of typhon||
||How does the lingering work with the lingering weapon dash upgrade?||
^ ||I don't know, but the native lingering wasn't all that much. I feel like the projectiles just kind of started slowing down after some distance||
[Hades 2 Romance Ending] Hahahahaha these two are a disaster
Hades 2 weapon ||First time with coat, I got maybe 70% through the underworld boss, so clearly there's something there, but not sure how I feel about the weapon overall||
||Mel out here collecting the children of Nyx like pokemon||
||It was definitely a weird one for me. The block on omega attack feels like it would be really powerful if you use it right, but I just kind of mash attacks & specials depending on whether I am close or far||
||Its definitely stronger when you have good magick regen. But there's only a handful of moves that are unblockable, and I think all of them are bosses||
||I feel like Coat and Dagger are both significantly better with the autofire thing toggled so I can hold attack without charging their deeply mediocre omegas||
Hades 2 Vow of Rivals Bosses ||So I just turned on VoR 3 for the first time and that cerberus fight is a whole load of BS||
Wait till you see the other side
Hades 2 down 1 ||Surely there is no special dialogue for keeping Arachne's dress for the entire run...||
Down 2 ||Scylla had dialogue for it, at least. That's as far as I've ever gotten with it though||
Hades 2 aspects ||I was on a pretty good run, just kinda fumbled it in zone two. Still fun build though; had pan aspect, hammer w extra projectiles, heroic +5 apollo special, hera cast. Brings back memories of chiron bow, with some hidden bow mixed in lol||
hades 2 familiar
I'm starting to like the axe now
Mostly because I've stacked the hell out of damage for it
I have like. Four different damage boosts
It's so funny
The axe is probs my fav weapon feel wise ngl
I don't like how slow it is but the damage definitely makes up for it
I'm very much a speedster in games
I don't like slow attacks with huge windup
Same but the axe kind of dodges my issues, in a way? Like I don't feel all that uncomfortable using it despite that
I think having options and mobility helps. I like how you can dash out of charge, like the spear from game 1, and dash during normals
Axe kills ads so fast and wide
Hades 2 character ||OHHHH HER NAME IS PAN-DORAAAAA
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LMAO
This is technically a spoiler for me because I didn't strictly know that
But like
I was like 99% sure that was it lmao
The 1% was the idea that maybe they were messing with me with an insanely obscure character
||I was so memeing her name being Dora the explorer I didn't think about it that much
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Yeah, it is kind of hard to know what to spoiler tag here.
Well this one I don't care about
Because it's not even really a mystery
It's the first assumption most people have lmao
Yeah no one else could ever have another stupid meme joke idea about it, I mean you would be stupid to do so...
Second win
Hades 2 down clear ||felt good about this build - fast attack speed that applies lots of Scorch that ticks faster, and then Special taps to apply Freeze and "detonate" the Scorch for big damage. Lost a DD to Chronos to an ability I am not sure how I could've avoided actually ๐ ||
^ ||Oh, that's neat, looks like Hades's own wall mosaic was hiding an older Chronos one underneath, the sepia effect was making it harder to notice before||
My Percy Jackson lore is waning on me, I need to look up a family tree
Wait..... Supergiant barely has scratched the surface, there are so many characters they could have.
Wait the hades family tree is different from the mythical one. 
Staff is way better than I gave it credit for
Third win
LMAO (Surface Rival 1) ||THE FIRST RIVAL FIGHT IS JUST MEDEA JOINING WITH POLYPHEMUS||
[Hades 2 Family Relationships] ||The trio of Zeus, Poseidon, are Chronos children, and Hera, Hestia, and Demeter are not(I believe they are Hyperion and Theia's, so it's not sibling incest but rather cousin incest). The rest still fall under the same parentage IIRC||
||The Titans actually have unclear parentage; its never stated iirc that the Titans are the offspring of Gaia and Ouranos||
Hades 2 items question ||Who am I missing?||
||Eris?||
I feel really starved for Nectar ๐
||Oh I never gave her anything because I didn't like her
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||Imagine not liking the chaos gremlin||
||she is not my cup of tea||
||She litters! She should be in the underworld!||
||Me, in 100 hours with 999 nectar and Ambrosia and my Eris relationship still at only 1 heart. ||
Post-credits ||Hilarious the incantation to try and wake hypnos for the third time is "end to dumbest slumber" after, the first two were "deepest" and "dearest" slumbers||
||Yeah, I am not a fan of him just bamfing out though.||
Okay I finished basically all of the epilogue.
hades 2... mechanics? ||I remember from EA that there was a spell to let me go to the surface without dying. Will that automatically unlock after time, or should I keep attempting what I can of the surface route?||
It's still there so likely you have not yet re-encountered it
Axe is hard ๐
Dash Attack into special is the recommended combo and not bothering with the full sequence is generally how I cleared with the axe
[Hades 2 Hidden Aspect] ||Nergal is so god dang fun to use though||
Hades 2 up clear ||Ended up clearing with Aspect of Charon, but I burned through 6 DDs (Athena showed up to refresh my 3 after I lost them), plus cat one. Got into a good rhythm dropping Casts and them slamming them with my omega special - really nice when I am in a 5s slow time Hex too - but boy did I just tank damage for most of this run||
My first two successful runs were with axe
hax
Charon aspect kinda good though
I should maybe hold off on Rivals a little longer though
hades 2 ||moros is here now and I'm immediately spoiling him with nectar||
That's just good hospitality
Exactly
I need to decide who to spam nectar on, now that my first choice has hit a lock
Might be him next tbh!
Ugh it is painful not to be able to play while I'm on this business trip lol
I tend to dump a lot of nectar in the random encounters because I can't target those
Bad run ๐ฎโ๐จ
Died to up 3 boss
Hades 2 down route ||I swear the minibosses are harder than the actual bosses||
||xD why did nemesis randomly need me to hit her||
||her way of flirting ๐ฅด||
erebus boss ||is there still a way to dodge the sheep curse? Or did that get removed||
hades 2 gen ||so many boons/gods but no nectar to give them
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Hades 2 gen ||thats so funny, I have like 5-7 on standby at all times||
||run and dash back and forth||
||I had a bunch but I've been giving them out to moros everyone||
||Went into this run hoping to try to get the rest of the olympian keepsakes only to immediately run out
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||Aphrodite has dialogue that lets you make some yourself, so farm her dialogue if needbe (asterisk, gotta have at least one Golden Apple in thy inventory)||
||lol, poseidon double up boon means I now have 4 nectars||
hades 2 oceanus boss ||love to see scylla again||
hades 2 gen ||lol, poseidon's sea star boon is spoiling me this run||
||honestly part of me wishes we could romance scylla||
mourning fields boss ||darn, lost my DD with just a few hits left on cerby||
hades 2 ?? ||hades pov flashback!!||
hades 2 story ||why does chronos want the fates ๐ค ||
Them: "Less talking, more hitting."
After their third song, I'm inclined to write a fic doing such a thing...
Hades 2 down, clear ||Yeeeah, I am definitely liking the Aspect of Moros for my Ygnium. Especially with Scorch effects. ||
||This is the build that I use, though the aspect doesn't matter all that much.
I recommend picking up the freezing cast, that helps a lot.||
Hades 2, down 1 ||Well, yeah, obviously I am running Zeus's keepsake, clearly, it's so obvious ๐ jk I forgot I swapped out of it||
Hades 2 surface run ||Hot dang, did NOT expect to clear Rivals Polyphemus my first attempt...let alone do a 15 minute run with 8 Fear...||
Is that 1 tick only or all 4
One tick on VoR, 3 ticks on speed
Which is where the other 6 fear comes from lol
||It took me too long because I was memeing her being Dora the explorer
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||It took me the game going "SO THIS PROMETHEUS, HUH??" and also Prometheus going "SO THIS DORA ISN'T ACTUALLY TO BLAME FOR ALL THE AWFUL THINGS IN THE WORLD"||
This is the exact thing that made me realize it too lol
To be fair, there are effectively no hints before then
I feel like I could've gotten it after the first one
||There's potentially some hints; there's dialogue w/ Moros and Dora, as well as the two individually, that hint that she's a) very old and b) had a very big Doom. But you may or may not get that before you hit Promy||
hades 2 oceanus ||nooo not asphodel teleport now||
Hades 2 up, clear ||Kind of fun spear build - fast attacks that drain magick, but draining magick triggers lightning, and I've got a couple of synergies for that (plus rank 8 attack boon from Aphrodite). Needed better magick restoration though, Aphrodite's passive 10/s just didn't cut it - or didn't work reliably on bosses / Typhon? Unclear. But my damage tanks when I go OOM ๐ ||
||I don't remember a Moros bit, the but the "she is very old" comes when she hears Prometheus's name. And Big Doom Energy is hardly unique in the Greek pantheon
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||Pro tip: mirrored thrasher has perfect synergy with with a Hestia boon, I forget the name, but at common level 2 or rare it gives +6 magic back each attack, meaning you get more than you spend from the upgrade||
Yeah, I was hoping to get it, it's one of my favorites. Was slim pickings for magick restoration
|| I was so hyped for getting something good here too||
||Yeah, I basically completed the whole game but didn't uncover the rest of them, I didn't feel like it was worth it to keep grinding to feout what they were.||
Hades 2 mechanics ||does the safe surface travel spell auto-unlock after a while or do I need to do something to prompt it?||
||Meanwhile I spawned in the tent, met her and went "oh I see what you're doing there" I think especially after Dusa in Hades 1 I was fully primed for this kinda thing.||
I mean, I figured she was someone, but a brief search in my memories didn't point me in the right direction, so I let it be
I figured it out because I was looking for it since ||she felt equivalent to Dusa and Dusa is intended as a Medusa joke (donโt know if she was ever explicitly confirmed as the Medusa)||
Hades 1 all ||She is in fact [THIS POST HAS BEEN REMOVED BY ORDER OF NYX: SPECULATION ABOUT DUSA'S PAST IS FORBIDDEN]||
Yeah, I just couldn't think of a name that worked ๐
Hades 1 ||Someone once pointed out that Dusa, the maid, is Maid Dusa -> Medusa, and I think that's cute||
Hades 2 ||Does this mean Dora is pansexual?||
Hades 2 down, clear ||Yep, I like Aspect of Charon. Big bonks in my cast||
||Hecate gives it to you, not sure through talking to her at the Crossroads or fighting her.||
Hades 2 ALL ||I wonder how many of them that guessed the other big reveal, though that one was a lot more obvious to me.||
Which one? After epilogue?
Yeah.
Yeah, it didn't come across for me up until I got spoiled just as I finished with the credits and checked something on Reddit lmao
Yeah some random unrelated google search spoiled it for me lol,
Hades 2 down, clear ||backstab build was actually really strong! I also had freeze on special + lightning on freeze. Big damage, big cleave. I like the Sister Blades||
||Also had Lunar Beam hex with Apollo's Godsent that splits into 3 beams, which was also big dam||
||I am more of a fan of the big area hex, the beam one I thought was good, until you die using it. ||
||Aaahhh, but that's why you hope for the Hex upgrade that lets it fire automatically!||
||I tend to like all the Hexes (very partial to the healing one myself!). I find that enemies will often escape the big AoE one ๐ ||
||I'd rather something that goes instantly than needing a hex upgrade. I would rather get the necro summon because of this.
Most of my builds, I don't really need to deal more damage, it's nice but it is more likely gonna get me hurt more.||
||I am more likely trying to make fights last longer to get the heal then just get damaged more because I am not locked in.
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No I lock out. 
Skull is diffucult ๐
Hades 2 more main story thoughts ||The more I sit with it, the less I like the direction of the story. The first game was good because of the simplicity of the conflict, but the depth of the characters. In 2, I think Supergiant widened the scope too much. Its too epic, and it doesn't give enough time for the character moments to shine through. Maybe that's because I burned through the story so quickly (I'm a much better gamer in general than the first time I played Hades 1), but something about 2 just...lacks the spark the first game had. Which sucks, cause the gameplay is 100% a step up||
||Also I'm a tad bitter at the lack of screentime for Zag, and the complete absence of Meg and Than ๐ญ||
hades 2 main story ending ||i think i'm like... i don't mind at all the direction, it's interesting stuff, but it feels like it just wrapped up way too quick? i think i like all the plot points, i think i would've felt more for them if they'd be lingered over a bit more. in general, i also don't think i just enjoyed my "working at it" time in this game as opposed to the first. i think i should have turned on god mode right away when i first started the game and i wish the game had offered it to me on start up like i remember the first game doing||
||Yeah ik what you mean. It was definitely sudden, just "over". And the goal of the epilogue is much murkier. I think if the conflict was framed differently, emphasizing the familial aspect of it more, maybe it would've hit harder. But oh well||
My main issue(and only issue) with the ending is ||definitely an ending that didn't let the beats breathe long enough||
||I feel like the other gods were way too easy on Chronos.||
Hades 2 down, clear ||This might be the last down run for the story, we'll see, but it ended up being kinda busted. Tons of Scorch damage, with easy Freeze and Froth applications on my dash, special, and cast, which translated into massive Steam damage. Like, one omega attack into attack combo into cast was like 25% of Chronos's health bar. Tons of Heroic boons, and big ranks. Messed up and ran into Chronos's insta-kill, otherwise I would've barely taken damage from him, everything was melting. Plus, I had armor and like 20% bonus dodge.||
Hm, an unexpected story development
Ah, there are the credits
Wait, Ben Starr jumpscare
Well, that's enough bad decisions for one night, time to sleep
He's everywhere
||Why wouldn't he want the weavers of the future||
You didn't realize he was ||Prometheus|| lmao
||Fair. I guess I'm just wondering if he has a larger plan, or if it's just to secure his victory||
I cannot recognize voices
Based on the dialogue ||he doesn't want to be under their needling any longer. Especially since he received the prophecy that he would be overgrown IIRC like in the original myths||
Hades 2 Vow Fight Mechanics ||I'm honestly surprised by how much annoying/harder the VoR Eris fight is compared to the Typhon/Chronos is. I guess it's cause I'm bad at positioning||
||Weirdly I find the VoR Eris the easiest vow fight and maybe easier than the regular Eris based on my play style, whereas I almost always take the most damage in the run to vow polyphemus (eff Medea).||
That one is also a pain
||I haven't tried vow endbosses yet, should probably just embrace the fact that I'm gonna lose a few and go for it||
Hades 2 up 1 ||I have zero idea why polyphemus is so tough for me its so annoying ๐ญ||
brains work in mysterious ways
||It is easy if you have certain things and just pillar hump. Just cast a cast on her and pillar hump.
Really easy with the burning cast.||
Hades 2 ||I may be chopped at this game sometimes but one thing will always be true: I am getting in the bathtub with my man ๐ฅด๐||
Also, Hades 2 pets + Eragon joke ||I have Blagden Raki!||
||lowkey want to use him forever + no i wont remember his real name||
Hades 2 weapons ||going up with the skull and I think I found a really good rhythm with it! Next time it has bones im gonna run with more apollo because my goodness its kinda peak||
||Skull is my worst weapon ๐ Apollo is always good though||
||i can understand that, its taking me a minute to kinda figure it out but I likeeeee it~
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Cleared 16 fear with a completely scuffed first region || burned all my rerolls and didnโt get storm ring on multiple Zeus boons was hanging on with no real damage on the Circe staff. Got it right before the second region boss. Then final shop got the Zeus Hera duo and lol melted final boss ||
Hades 2 weapons ||I GOT THE COAT! I expect a lot but becoming half mech was not one of them ๐คฃ||
Right
hades 2 ||Hi chaos, perfect timing||
||noo no chaos plants ||
||I assume I cant get two chaos gates in one run...?||
You can
Oh, nice
||well hopefully chaos is nice enough to send another, because the whole point of this run was to get chaos flowers xD||
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got through that encounter with 2 seconds left on the moros doom time||
||2 hp oh lord im so cooked ๐ญ ||
||endure my sweet
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||I made it only 2 rooms further
which is still more than I expected||
hades 2 ||worst thing is that i didnt get any of the chaos seeds... even though that was the whole reason I did the run||
||but I did now get the bath unlock incantation! So we got a win||
||but Moros isnt around right now
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||You'd think it would be your best one.
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Hades 2 Weapons ||Well you see, it's his skull, so he gets nervous about throwing it around||
Hades 2 up, 3 ||Circe's +size boon also increases the size of Melinoe's sprite and lowers her voice a little ๐ ||
||Mel with a slightly deeper voice is mmfff
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I want one and Supergiant not having one already premade for merch is criminal
A set is needed
I--that's fair
I also took a screenshot of this xD
Hades 2 hotsprings fan art
Yeah, I am a fan of this art alright
Let's throw in Odysseus in there too ||https://x.com/MumbleHumbles/status/1975015565879382141 ||
Od is the best. Didn't know how they could top Achilles(only Patroclus does) but they managed it
Victory screen and lategame mechanic stuff || been doing some great chaos runs and this one was a real banger. I've never really vibed with the charon axe or using omega specials until this run popped off. Also surprised how little damage I took but I guess I shouldn't be when everything was frozen and dead to huge omega specials and I had Gale and The Lovers for some blocks. Kinda messed up the final fight by being greedy and impatient but such is life.||
Hades 2, down 4 ||brutal, Chaos prevented me from getting the duo boon that I also needed for the minor prophecy||
||Speaking of beach ball, I consider it the funnest boon.||
I wouldn't know!
First surface win let's gooooo
That's a lot of boons
Yeah I usually grab boons when I can
Unless I think I want a Hammer for my build or I feel that there's a boon that's underperforming without a Pom
Hammers are, without exception, my top pick
I do like hammer upgrades but I feel like they have less general synergy getting a ton of them.
There are exceptions ofc
But I generally find boons synergize more
Can't really get a ton, I think it's (soft?) capped at 2 per run
I see
Ok, hades 2 mechanics ||Ive had a few times where the like... wishlist icon pops up on the doorway to a boon room. But afaik boons can't be put on my list, and I certainly havent put them there. So does that mean one of the materials I need will also spawn in that room?||
hades 2 ||first chaos seeds acquired!!||
Yes. Green means you have enough of the ingredients already
hades 2 ||dang, didnt get any of the hammer upgrades I like||
Correct
||If it appears above a door, then it means that there's something on your wishlist in there. Could be metal, could be a plant, etc||
hades 2 ||dangit, didnt even see the attack that killed me ๐ญ ||
AFAIK it's 3* per run, at two you can find the anvil, which eats one hammer and gives you two random hammers
As in the original hammers feel quite mandatory most of the time. There are some weapons / build where it's less so but they're very powerful / impactful.
I wasn't counting anvil
Fun fact, it can get doubled with Poseidon's boon ๐
You can also potentially get an extra one if you pick the hammer last before encountering Hades 2 Down 3 ||Echo with her last boon picked||
I think the max is 6? 2 regular, 1 from above, 2 from anvil, 1 from [Hades 2 Keepsake] ||Icarus||
I keep messing that one up and ending up with trash options because I don't plan ๐
Yeah sometimes I do that too. My brain goes "OOH SHINY"
Whenever Sea Star activates and I hear "HOW ABOUT TWO!?"
I thought anvil takes away 1 and adds 2, making it +1?
or was it changed for hades2?
Yes, but if Sea Star triggers, you get another
oh hilarious
But even if not that's still 5 hammers
Most builds with it look for just two but some builds would be incredibly busted if you get more than
yeah
at the same time it can be pretty rough not getting the one hammer that makes your build cracked
Axe, for example, could go absolutely crazy if you get [Hades 2 Gameplay] ||The attack speed buff, the double dash strike, the AOE strike with every attack, the attack +power + defense, then the Psychic Omega attack||
Yeah, for the axe the one that [Hades 2 Gameplay] ||Makes it the final chop only is pretty devastating for most builds||
||I feel like that one is very.... it can totally ruin your build or it can be insanely good. ||
It is so opposite my playstyle that I never ever really build for it lol
Hades 2 ||I actually really liked the chaos level that was just axe final, playing that build with all the pieces in place, but I think I'd personally struggle to build my way there naturally||
same
Wait, I haven't found any hidden weapon aspects
I don't even remember where they came from in the first game...
It's a little more complicated now
Hades 2... post-... credits? story? ||Did not expect to be surprised thus||
Neither did she
do you want to be told?
I actually don't remember if the game gives you a hint, now that I think about it.
Struggle it is then!
Hades 2 gen story/romance ||ok so Nem and Artemis are at minimum friends with benefits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW_N5djY-6A||
Kinda sad this didn't end up in anything, I like the pairing though
Timestamps:
00:00 Nemesis 1
00:34 Nemesis 2
00:56 Artemis 1
01:30 Artemis 2
02:13 Artemis 3
02:49 Artemis 4
That bit when "Oh no I have to go!" 
sometimes a build is just... explosive
all in all not a great run, but I don't need good boons to kick ass with the sister blades
Love that you love the sister blades
Stab stab!
Speaking of secret weapon aspects...
Hades 2 hidden weapon aspects ||Got this the first time I met Charon with a fully upgraded Thanatos aspect on my axe. Maybe coincidence, maybe not...||
Hades 2, down 3 ||heh, cute||
Hm, I probably need to take the boss more seriously lmao. I'm used to just kinda messing around in hades 1 so I keep doing that instead of actively trying not to die. But I haven't moved the main story in a good bit as a result....
You might be used to being more powerful in Hades 1
I don't think the bosses there were inherently easier, but if you were further along...
... Finally had a decent skull run
Hades 2 underworld boss ||Dang, just walked into an insta kill because of mel's slipperiness. That's one aspect I still haven't quite gotten used to||
Well I'd like to say I locked in, but I just got a run with a super cracked build
Hades 2 ||I liked chiron bow, I like pan blades. Very satisfying to see enemies get absolutely shredded||
Tbh, ||the 200% move speed actually made it harder to avoid some things, cause I'd just run into the damage zone from a light nudge on the stick. I was SO tense about not walking into the insta kills this time xD||
Hades 2, down clear + VoW 3 ||Kind of an oddball of a build. Tried to force Cast boons because of the weapon aspect, but ended up with bad attack/special boons for essentially the entire run in spite of tons of attack speed buffs. Ended up big damage, but very chaotic. Got my ass handed to me by Scylla, lost all my DDs there ๐ ||
This does seem like it could be fun, but I didn't like this playstyle in the first game, and I am not sure I'll like it in this one either ๐
Also, I like the little โ๏ธ on the "death" screen (though beware of story spoilers, as the text is different post-credits)
Hades both main story ||Zag did the same thing, threw up a โ๏ธas he sank lol||
Damn man
I'm having a real bad lose streak against Rival Poly
My last four surface runs, I've failed to get past Ephyra
You arent alone neon ๐๐
One tip that I could recommend is to immediately go right(his left) soon as the fight starts so that he doesn't get buffed by [Hades 2 Mechanics] ||Medea immediately||
[Hades 2 Relationship Spoilers] ||Just had an encounter with Artemis where she gave Mel ambrosia???||
Ohhhh I just realized something
Rivals 2 ||You fight Charybdis on their own on a destroyed ship. But when Rivals 2 is active, you don't fight Charybdis. Instead you fight a Shade captain. Because Charybdis isn't on the surface anymore! They're in the underworld, so they don't destroy that ship, leaving its inhabitants alive!||
Hades 2 down 4 ||got to chronos's second phase for the first time! We love torches baby!!||
||and best believe i gave my man some nectar afterwards||
||"I trust we'll have more opportunities like this?" Im gonna wife him up so bad yall dont get it||
||i had an apollo/hera combo going on, it was sliiiick, plus I got a chaos boon really early that made me use -40% magick, what a run||
One thing Hades does really well is build diversity
so many different builds feel satisfying
Yesssss!! It feels nice to finally find the groove for this game ๐
Hades 2 story ||Chaos just casually telling me they ratted the fates out to chronos is so funny ๐ญ||
||"yes I wanted to see something and he didnt seem like he was lying" chaos... bud ๐||
Also also (Hades 2 weapons) ||i have GOT to use the moon variant of the coat, ive been calling it the moon mech and it is so pretty||
I DID IT I DID IT I DID IT I DID IT XD
Hades 2 down 4 ||EAT NY SHORTS CHRONOS HAHAHAHAHA||
May wanna fix that
Whoops, got too excited ๐
Yeah, that's clearly supposed to be an M
Nelimoรซ
Hades 2 Tartarus build ||This was the full run build! Getting 2 duos toward the end reallly helped! that and having hyper scorch on the attack๐ ||
yeah, this looks like solid stuff
I should've been buying more ambrosia...
Yeah I always buy Ambrosia when I can
Though there is a way to craft it
It just takes a while to get
Yeah, I have the craft, but I could've been like 5 ahead
So I made my Special crazy busted on complete accident this run. I started out with the Skull Aspect of ||Persephone, which gives me +3 level for the boons I select and lets me control my Omega Special||, got the Demeter Special boon that boosts speicla damage, then I got the Hera boon that makes a random boon Heroic and gives it levels, and guess which boon it chose.
Add that onto my hammer of special dealing +600 damage to armor, and the Hermes boon that boosts Omega speed
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
And now I'm just hunting for ways to boost my special now ig
I tried to make that work once but the boons weren't cooperating
I'd like to give it another shot
I had a skull run earlier using ||the Medea|| aspect that was big damage but risky and prone to taking damage
Cracked run
||Scorch attack and freeze cast. I didn't know that you were a person of taste Cosmic. ๐ท ||
Hmm, I am missing a keepsake
Weapon effects sometimes goes there
Oh yeah
It's Perse aspect
It was charged even though I'm in a shop
Which is weird
Unrelated, this was kind of fun, huuuge axe bonks
Oh DAMN
Rivals 3|| HERACLES?! HERACLES BETRAYAL ARC?!||
||OH GOD I GET TO PLAY MEMORY MATCH WHILE WORRYING ABOUT HERACLES KILLING ME||
Beat it first try
hades 2 ||hi chaos!||
||yes!!! the seeds I need||
hades 2 story ||
chaos gave chronos the fates' locations??||
hades 2 ||dangit the hellyfish is the worstt||
Hades 2 Aspects/general moaning about not getting the right boons ||I've been trying to get a good Medea run together for several runs and game just refuses to give me a good attack boon :(||
hades 2 oceanus boss ||im taking wayy too many hits from scylla right now||
hades 2 ||hi nem, I'm busy dying right now||
Hades 2, down clear ||kinda nice to chunk enemies for 2k per omega attack with the black coat||
dang, I almost got the Rivals underworld clear
unless there's an extra phase on the last boss
About that...
Yeeeah, I thought it was a little too easy
Maybe I need to go in with real builds, I am still focusing on fulfilling minor prophecies and leveling keepsakes... 2nd and 3rd Rivals bosses are still doing too much damage to me
Alright, never mind, I went back there with an absolute wild build and killed him without using a DD the entire run
Hades 2, underworld clear w/ Rivals 4 ||Black Coat with (omega) Special augmentations for those good good homing missiles, plus chain lightning on each missile, plus Hera's legendary which gives 4 random Infusions for obsene damage boosts, plus Apollo & Hera's Duo for perma resurrected add, and some other niceties throw in there (like getting the Judgment arcana card from my Circe's keepsake in Erebus, so I ended the run with all the cards||
I reallygotta stop thinking that hubris is free fear
hades 2 up ||I think the problem is I used it a lot on the surface and most of the time had the medea thing that gives +5 mana per encounter. So in my underworld run suddenly had no mana ||
that's your hubris thinking that
Only free fear is the time limit one if you're good at the game dabs
There's a unique dialogue for a specific boss if you turn off the music in the settings of the game...
Heheh yeah I saw that on yt yesterday, peak
Woo, took a few tries but got both end bosses on VoR 4
scorch feels pretty bad without pyro technique tho
Is that the accelerated burn?
yeah
Yeah, you really need that to pop off
if you are using a fast weapon at least
the number of times I've just stared at the 999 Scorch cap...
yep same
post game stuff ||I really enjoy Fates Whim runs but this is the down side, sometimes the boon you want just doesn't come and you can't even try to force it||
||I never understood how it worked, it took too long to unlock I was finished with the game.||
||the three fates whim trinkets give powerful bonuses and stay active even when swapped off, so long as you do not have any rerolls or use a trinket that forces a god||
I still haven't finished the epilogue. I think my issue is well I think it's kinda the same as Hades 1 where so many runs worth of dialogue ends up queued up because they'd been adding so much through all the early access, so the pacing is maybe not perfect for a fresh play at 1.0
||Have problems getting that Prometheus dialogue?
||
mayhaps
Hades 2 up 2 ||oh I am so ashamed, I lost THREE DDs to Eris with the blades... I was so used to being ranged with her, it was really hard to distance myself ๐ญ||
What a disaster of a run, my goodness ๐
It do be like that sometimes
Yeah i knew with the way my boons were lookin it wasnt gonna end well ๐
Oh well! Cant win every run!
Hades 2 ||surely a bath with my man will help me ease my mind ๐โจ๏ธ||
Hades 2 up 3 ||OMG first of all, prometheus being the boss is sick and TWO... wowie wow hes tough||
||not too tough fot me though lol, did it first try!||
Good job, I regularly struggle with this boss ๐
I can 11000000% see why ๐ญ
Hades 2 up 3 boss ||he moves SO fast!! Only reason why I scraped by was because I had the fountain hex and Apollo's legendary boon||
||Moves fast and his attacks have a large range||
not me, going into the last surface boss on Vow of Rivals wearing a tank
I feel like that's reasonable
||An unexpected development.||
Really weird build, but I got it on the first try. Having all the health in the world clearly helped
Nice one grats!
Huh, would you look at that, Aphrodite agrees with you
Heavy Metal (+weapon damage based on armor) feels like such a bad boon...
Unless you build into armor (and avoid taking hits lol)
But there's like... 2 armor boons
And one is temp?
Unless there's some legendary or duo I am forgetting, but that's rough for building
||Arachne's keepsake||
||That's not... much. And you have to play damn perfect||
Ugh
Which keepsakes do you all use the most in hades 2?
Hades 2 surface zone 2 ||DANGIT charybdis is surprisingly painful for a miniboss. Ended my run this time
||
||took both my first life and DD life
||
hades 2 ||dang, moros is away again ๐ ||
I think it's kinda... It's a weird one. I think it's good in two situations: I have taken it when I am low on health and need to just survive for a bit to get to a shop or something and it has served me well in that situation. Also I believe it is just flat damage and so it scales very well with attack speed so on fast weapons it's a lot of DPS though I tend to think it's a bit... when it's strong it makes itself stronger? I mean by increasing your dps significantly it shortens fights which means you have less chance to be hit in the first place. That said I do tend to feel it's quite "win more, loose more" like if I already commit to doing armour and start with the keepsake and I'm already not taking hits then it's highly effective but probably unnecessary but when/if I start taking hits I get weaker which makes fights go worse so I take more hits until it does nothing.
It's kinda worse/different apollo boon that gives a % damage increase until you get hit
Heph in general I find.... his stuff either pops off hard or it's terrible ๐
Yeaaahhhh...I've gotten through Oceanus with one, thats as far as I have though
I'll mess with that when I get the True Ending
Hades 2, relationship (Artemis) ||I see, I see. Sisters only in cause!||
||I'm so glad Artemis is in fact Hella Gayโข๏ธ, its peak||
Hades 2 ||Secret boss|| ||urgh I feel like Zag is deceptively hard. Those slow but powerful attacks really get me right in the impatience. Tho also I think it's a weapon by weapon thing, with fast weapons I do way better than with axe, I just get caught trying to get one more big slow swing in and bam 40 damage taken.||
^ ||Yeah, he's got huge reach, moves quickly, and moves erratically. I am starting to get him, but he shows up like once every 10 nights ๐ ||
I get him either at the very beginning where I'm basically little baby and my run is cut short or when I'm about to go beat the boss and it's basically just useless except for dialogue. No in-between
mood
The more I play the more I realise that The Huntress arcana is maybe a lot less useful than I initially thought
Damn, axe hidden aspect is rough
I feel like it's one of those that scales very hard with ranking it up
That feels correct
I went to 3/5 just so I am not going against Rivals 4 (I died to the last underworld boss), and if the next two upgrades are as linear, that will add up to a lot of power
I like building it with Apollo for attach for even bigger damage reach, or Hestia to help me position better
Zeus blitz also almost always triggers on the second hit before any upgrades LMAO
I enjoyed it with Demeter as well
Correction, hidden axe is good, hidden staff sucks
hidden blades also suck
Hmm, I don't know if I'll go for the third trophy, it seems like a lot of headache right now. But I am on the back end of a couple pretty mid runs, so we'll see how I feel when the gods favor me
On a different note, my algorithm has my number
Who's top left-second?
Second row, left?
Huge Success! Dress escort mission complete!
My fastest clear so far is with this. Putting Hestia, Zeus, or Demeter attacks on it then Aphro on special coupled with stacking more on Casts
You gotta share some links ๐
HOW???
Ah. Double Chaos, makes sense
idk how I got offered the heroic one, it had a very brutal drawback (no arcana for 4 rooms) I think maybe because I kept buying more chaos holes from the wells and got in there with drawbacks still on me?
Ended the run with over 5K still xD
been doing lots of weird runs to keep it interesting as I spem them out trying to trigger dialogue to advance the plot with Hades 2 characters ||Narcissus and Echo ||
Valid. I've been doing runs aiming for Minor Prophecies
Yes
Hange Zoe from Attack on Titan, tell me the hashtags
That explains why she's the only one I didn't recognize.
Imagine if that was Aphrodite
very large bonks
(added spoiler for hades 2 win screen)
It's none of those, but https://bsky.app/profile/looceyloo.bsky.social/post/3lo663bxxk22a
Mmmmmmm I appreciate ๐
Okay, skull hidden aspect is best skull aspect
meanwhile I played it once and was like "this sucks" and went back to mom aspect xD
Try it with freeze on special sometime
My favorite is hitch on special for it
That's also probably great
So Hades II is great
My sleep is really suffering for it
Correction to my correction, it was in fact the axe's hidden aspect I hated, I haven't even tried staff yet!
Woo hoo Poobah! You've been on a roll~
The surface is so mean to me 
no
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download/copy it, delete it, and repost it
Up Victory screen repost ||when typhon shows up expecting to fight a wich and there's a tank waiting, most hp I've had by miles||
ok we did it
||Does the pom relic add levels to boons after you switch relics? Like once itโs on it applies going forward like fig leaf?||
||Yes all three "fates whim" relics keep their effects for so long as you fulfil the condition ie. you must not take a god-forcing relic, this includes Athena - Selene is allowed tho||
thanks, I've been grinding a lot lately, tho haven't posted any runs despite having a few cool ones, just been anxious to get that completionism satisfied so I can relax in to trying really hard runs and failing them hahaha
I still need to max out my relationships with ||Dio and Icarus|| but for that i need a lot more runs to find them randomly and get to chat. ||Also my relationship with Eris is still at 1 but she can stay in the bin, 99% completion will be fine Im sure||
Thats so funny because (Hades 2 up 3) ||I just found Dio for the first time!||
What's been your favorite weapon?
Mmmmm I like the skulls ๐ฅฐ
hard to say, I think more than the original Hades I actually enjoy all the weapons.
Axe is probably my least favourite tho
Mmmm I see~ I also like these way way more than hades 1, too ๐
This run reminded me why I love staff... had too many runs without it being picked for the extra stuff buff
Skull I also really like
torches may be my fave?
if axe is at the bottom then I think it's a big jump up to coat/staff/daggers only a bit beneath skull and torches
I think I need to do more runs tho
a lot of my early runs were "lets force this build that I am predisposed to think is good"
Mmm I see~
doing fates whim has been very good for my build variety
Been sitting on my overall feelings about the game for a couple of days since finishing the epilogue (spoilers for the Hades 2 ALL + epilogue) ||I think ultimately my issue comes down to Melinoe is way too... neutral and lacking in strong feelings? I guess. On the whole I think the game's story/themes aren't as tight or cohesive and I think this exchange in which Melapologises to Athena because Arachne wouldn't beg mercy and forgiveness was really the icing on the cake. All the stuff with Arachne, and Prometheus, and Echo (and sorta Narcissus to an extent), Heracles, Icarus, even Chronos... they put together all these stories of people who are screwed over by the gods and fates, and then in theory they end the game with this idea that the gods and fates will back off and leave people alone... and idk I feel like that should be a stronger central idea by far than it is? I feel like when they came up with the idea it was great but at some point they backed off/watered down the "screw the gods" thesis because Mel is so ambivalent to it all, and more than anyone else is lacking in agency along the whole ride, she just gets on and does what she's told, and in the end The Fates show up having already made their minds up and not really because of anything she did. She takes the middle path in all these conflicts between mortals and gods and never really takes action/chooses a side. She's sympathetic to these various people, tries to play peacemaker when it isn't gonna inconvenience her but never willing to offer more than that. She accepts the status quo, as with Echo's curse. She never considers a different, better, resolution to the problem of Chronos either, she's always so... submissive? when dealing with her "superiors" as when accepting Athena telling her that her friend deserved to be cursed to be a spider forever for being prideful & rude to her, or shrugging off Prometheus's reasons for turning against the gods because he's in the way of her appointed task.||
||And the same with finally meeting and freeing her family, there isn't much resolution there. She just gets back on to doing her duties. She's been training and fighting her whole existence to free her family and then... just accepts that she's barely gonna see them and gets on with doing what she's told. ||
IDK I think the game is very good and most of the individual writing is very good, and overall I think the actual gameplay is better than Hades but if I had to sum up my feelings to one sentence I'd say I think in trying to step up to this "big world affecting conflict" type thing they lost some of magic of the original.
I think the biggest takeaway I have is that [Hades 2 Ending+Epilogue] ||Mel's role was to listen and hear these people, and who have legitimate gripes, but unlike Zag, she's there to offer them a way forward. A lot of the decisions narratively strike me as Mel is there to provide an alternative, that others may take, without her "white savioring" her way into saving the day||
That is a solid build btw man oh man
And I think that took me around the same amount of nights.... maybe It took me 55?? It took a while for me to get gud
nice nice
Staff hidden aspect is weird. I don't know how things were dying, but they were
Flames hidden aspect is also weird, damn
Hades 2 Fan art of a scene that does not happen in game but imho SHOULD.
Let's make sure we are crediting artists, yeah?
Ope my bad, I thought this one had it on the art. https://www.reddit.com/u/jabamint/
It's still easier to find the person when there's a link, maybe interact with them
WAIT
IF YOU GET THE ||CIRCE THING THAT SHRINKS MEL
DOES IT SHRINK HER PORTRAIT AND MAKE HER VOICE HIGHER PITCHED||
LMAO
||Yup~ and the one that makes her bigger does the opposite||
||In this house we simp for big Mel||
I wish it was possible for her to meet Nemesis like that
||SAME. I want it so bad ๐ญ||
Not a terrible skull run
Hades 2, post-credits pre-epilogue ||it took Hades pointing it out to me to realize that this is Bouldy ๐ญ Look at him, he is a man now, grown a beard and all||
Hades 2 late game chaos trial stuff ||Can I just take a moment to rage about "great chaos" trials giving the absolute worst combos to reach 20 fear, and then when I'm deep in the run randomly making me have artemis's stupid run ender antler||
||I've yet to get that dialogue, Cerberus has been there literally every run ๐ญ||
RNG is RNG
And clearly I upset the RNG gods at some point
This may have been a cracked axe run
I have a story question, because I haven't made much progress towards what I assume kicks off the epilogue in like 20 nights. ||I need to get to know he who rebels against the gods before the Fates contact me again. I assume that's Prometheus. Do I just keep fighting him? So I need to have Vow of Rivals on? I've got some other prophecies to work on (because Narcissus just will not show up...), but I'd like to know if I am missing something here||
Hades 2 underworld run ||Hell yeah, high fear run go brrrr||
||Yes. You just have to keep fighting him. It took me like +12 runs to get him to say the right dialogue.||
Yeah that was real lucky
Okay, blades hidden aspect isn't as bad as I thought, I had misunderstood how it works
I like using the omega special on that one to be the final strike in one chain and then the first in the next when it comes back
Okay, back to the game after like a week!
Had a pretty strong up run, but I've only ever fought that boss once so I didn't learn its moves as well as I should have lol. I feel like I was pretty close though
Hades 2 build ||Was thanatos axe with ~30-34% dodge chance and the hermes legendary. Apparently getting hit for money doesn't reset the crit stacks||
Yeah it doesnโt count as damage on the stat tracker either
hades 2 gen ||i swear the surface feels so much harder than tartarus||
|| it is ||
||At the end, I found that both where actually too easy.||
Arachne story ||This is really funny. I've progressed to the point of Arachne's story where I need to talk to Athena, but I've basically not been going up at all because I'm chasing darkness even though i need to beat the surface one more time, so basically every conversation with Hecate and Arachne is just "GO TALK TO ATHENA STUPID!"||
It's also really funny because basically every NPC is going "What the hell are you doing, you've beaten the underworld like 20 times, GO TO THE SURFACE YOU IDIOT"
hades 2 surface second zone ||NONONO NOT CHARYBDIS||
||ok that was a lot easier than last time||
Aphrodite can make a very funny infinity mana build that you can use in so many ways, like just absolutely spamming Hexes and Omega moves.
It's not even that hard
Literally just get Aphrodite's mana restore and her duo with Poseidon
That's all you need
Add that onto things that buff Weak and you can do some funny things
I just used it to beat Surface 3 with Rivals and I didn't die and I genuinely have no clue how I didn't die
Especially since I don't know what my HP is
WAIT OH MY GOD
HER LEGENDARY INFLICTS CURSES FROM OTHER OLYMPIANS WHENEVER YOU INFLICT WEAK
THAT'S PERMANENT
OH MY GOD
I only get to use it on the final boss of the surface lmao
I got it too late
hades 2 olympus ||not talos oh god||
||that was also easier than last time||
||maybe actually having strategy instead of just hitting helps||
Bro what an insane run. I was genuinely convinced I was immortal until I died literally at the end of the final boss. That was the most insane build I've ever had
hades 2 olympus boss ||dangit im going into the prometheus fight with no magic at all||
||Very fitting run for the final surface win I needed for the enchantment to end the game||
Hades 2 UP victory screen - this was by far the most absurdly busted run I've had so far, absolutely cracked.
Q: How many death defiances do you want?
A: YES
๐
Aphrodite's legendary is great, yeah
||You could go with the Athena trinket and not have any death defile to see her.||
hades 2 ||underworld|| ||that was a fun run. reminded me of nuclear shield cast runs from the original||
hades 2 ||main story|| ||i love and missed zag
||
it's great ๐
I thought I was doomed. I grabbed the boon that hid my health and basically resigned myself to death, but I still grabbed as much DD as I could on the way
I know
Hades 2 down 4 ||Lotta dialogue this cerberus fight... Hope that means I can pet him next time!||
^ ||Not yet ๐||
one day
Soon, hopefully! 
Hades 2 up ||Hidden Blades are fun af, I thinks||
Hades 2, underworld clear, staff hidden aspect ||wait, I am a believer?? This aspect is insane?? Get massive AoE with omega attack, that does big damage, and it chain lightnings like 3-4/sec??? On top of omega cast I spam for mana, freeze, and damage?? I think I only took like 2 hits from Chronos, and they got absorbed by my Arcana, he didn't touch my health bar at all||
Cleared topside with a ||pan scorch|| build!
That sounds like it could stack a lot
Getting there...
A good like half are "do this thing that takes a very long time"
I've been thoroughly sidetracked by all the other stuff that's come out...
Hopefully I manage to make my way back down the stack
Everything else is waiting in queue for me
if I put Hades down I'll lose skill!
if I put a game down, the chance of me coming back to it is suuuuuuuuuuuuper low
Only reason I havent been playing is that theres a ton of clothes in my gaming chair.... I had a lot of laundry to do ๐
Are they... yours or Moros's?
Eris's? ๐
Am I misremembering my channel lore? I thought cosmic was swooning over Horns over there
(laundry)
Ah, I see we took that line in different directions ๐
Yeah, there was like a week of warmer that made it too hot for me to play well, so I powered through Minishoot adventures, and then an AoM DLC came out, and then an AoE2 DLC came out, and then OSRS started a seasonal event, and now Pokemon ZA's come out...
But I think that's the whole immediate future list maybe, so I can probably work through it and get back to Hades 2 so I can finish up Hollow Knight so I can start Skong
Realized I missed a great opportunity here for a pun regarding cookware. Imagine that I was really clever instead of realizing it like 18 hours later
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
I HAVE BEAT SILKSONG. NOW IT IS TIME.
I am going to go immediately into it on stream if anyone wants to watch
OMG IS THAT WHAT YOUR STREAMING??
Thank you, I suffered
Damn, finishing one game and rolling right into another, no recharge time?
i did it too.... but then i hurried to finish hades ii so i could go back to skong ๐
Hades II time...
If I lock in I might be able to finally beat ||Chronos||, this build is working well
ok, time for the big fight
I better not screw this up 
This is going too well
hades 2 underworld final boss ||half way ๐ ||
||oh. That was... pretty easy this time ๐ ||
post-underworld-final boss ||zag? past zag??? time travel???||
hades 2 gen ||and got my first hot springs scene
||
I saw this one joke about one of the Vow of Rivals: [Hades 2 UP3 Boss] ||Is Prometheus a hard boss? Only when Herc is around||
I deeply don't want to be productive and I just want to go back to Hades II
blink what
(argent did you forget a spoiler cover or is my discord glitched)
I didn't, I just didn't think there was anything of substance in the image
ok just double checkin
Hmm, I can't seem to earn my Hecate bond. She is max hearts, and hasn't had special dialogue for a while. Do I need to reach the epilogue/max the others first?
Yeah Hecate's unlocks as the last thing for the epilogue
Gotcha, thanks
Hades 2 topside build ||Omega cast into strikes kinda situation here, first time clearing with Xinth!||
It only really came together toward the end. ||I had that apollo ares duo in early zone 1, but my only falling blade was dash. Cast was apollo for the longest time, didn't get the sacrifice into ares till summit, but it seemed like it fit pretty well||
And I mean apollo cast still Did Damage
Ope my controller ran out of battery while I was yapping here
Glad it didn't die mid run lol
One day I'll try to do a meme Naruto build.
Hades 2 dialogue... I like this one 
Hades 2 up 2 ||Awww Eris and I call nemmie the same thing
||
Hades 2 up build ||Trying an armor run||
||I just feel like I'm gonna lose it all to eris though lol||
||holy protection batman||
Good gravy on rice, crispy ๐ญ
Listen I'm really bad at that one 
wow, talk about a low damage taken underworld clear
I see your problem, you have no actual abilities. 
I wish the 200% buff to boon-less attack & special from the wells was available more reliably, maybe as a keepsake. That could've been a build
I love how we just
Don't acknowledge that Circe, in both Greek mythology and clearly in this game, just turns people into pigs
Melinoe just doesn't confront that at all
Odysseus never brings it up
What the hell (true ending run)
Final boss down
Time to see this true ending
||I wish that bit with Zagreus was actually playable||
||WELL AT LEAST WE GET ONE SCENE WITH APOLLO AND ARTEMIS TOGETHER! I WAS STARTING TO THINK WE WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING!||
And roll credits
Banger
||I do find the ending a bit funny in how sudden everything happens though. Mel tolerating Cronos in particular is a bit like "lmao what"||
hades 2 surface boss 3(?) ||prometheus down!!||
summit ||ohhhh thats scary...||
||no rewards for each room??
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||miniboss already???||
||ANOTHER MINIBOSS???||
||holy heck thats a hard zone||
Yeah it's also quite punishing
Yeeeah
The final regions both do a thing where some rooms just progress forward, no rewards
I've found that I can do a no-hit run up until that area
Then the big guy reminds me I'm only mortal
I am getting better at reading the attack patterns, but there's just so much going on
Phase 4 is where I struggle the most
Same tags ||prom is so cracked, last night I had a run and he wiped me, I had 3 DDs ๐ญ||
||though I am happy I at least got all the way there with no issues, the fountain hex is soooooo great||
^ ||healing hex is a great crutch for learning fights||
Same ||from memory I got to the third phase of his fight with... one, maybe 2 DDs and a solid amount of health and managed to almost lose it all before I killed him ๐ญ ||
||he just hits so hard||
Hades 2 up 3 boss||I do tend to take a lot of damage to him but I think he's a pretty fair fight with good telegraphs, and he also does a lot of standing around listing you hit him while he decides what to do next. Tbh the thing I find most annoying is the bird at the start, it always takes me by surprise, it's so damn fast||
||I think he either got faster at the end or I stopped playing as well, coz I found him fairly alright to dodge most of the time||
that last requirement for the epilogue minor prophecy is just not RNG-ing ๐ญ
Hades 2 Up 3 Boss ||I like to get in enemies' face and do melee attacks, and he's got a bunch of attacks that are just mean about that||
||The punch barrage...๐ญ||
What are y'all's preferred Fear options?
It took me so many runs to get it.
I keep coming back to (hades 2) ||pan aspect|| but I'm comfortable with it. Another top run
I've been running time, just did one with onion
I think I might try to push for the third trophy, but I haven't tried about half of the affixes
I think I need like 24 and 32
Okay, absolutely hated the 32 fear underworld clear, nothanks
my build was essentially "freeze on attack, and buff my freeze and attack as much as I can"
cool, man
hades 2 weapons ||gonna try my first black coat run||
Dang this was meant to be a quick fun jokey run but I'm actually getting pretty stacked
I might have to undo this night because I don't have time for a full run ๐ญ
Absolutely
REALLY??!?!?!?
I never knew this ๐ญ
In my old saves I used to just undo or die if I was short on time ๐ญ
welp
Rip
Yeah as soon as you enter a location it saves, but I believe once you start fighting the save is temp locked so you can't save scum
The time option is like free Fear to me lol, I rush the heck out of it. Rivals has been fun af too
I usually go with more enemies, more enemy health, rivals, and time
I have yet to do the boss rivals
aaand, that's my 24 fear surface clear. Blades hidden aspect is weird but powerful
Noice. I'm debating on if I try for the third prize myself...we'll see
If anyone is curious to see all three Gifts of the Veil, aka Night's Champion challenge trophies, plus the associated dialogue
Wait, hold up, there has been a development! 
Gifts of the Veil ||Make sure to talk to Nyx soon||
Not up to me!
Fair lol
||I say that, even though she did show up immediately... except I was running Thanos's axe aspect, and she decided to talk about that||
Lmaaaoooo
||I never knew what you were supposed to do to get them all, I just got 1.
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||Higher fear runs, it'll say on the Oath of the Unseen what the next requirements are||
Iirc ||Its 6 up 8 down, 12 up 16 down, 24 up 32 down||
||Ah, I was just cranking out runs to finish the fate thing, I never really cared for the fear runs.||
Hades 1 prizes/2 Gifts of the Veil ||Fair. The prizes are deliberately silly in both games, they're more for the hardcore and completionists than the average player. I mean the first game's statues were of Skelly lol||
alright i was productive today
kinda wanna... strim
Can I make it past boss 2? to be decided...
hades 2 surface boss 1 ||godddd that was a horrible polyphemus fight||
||screwed that up badly
||
Hades 2 keepsakes ||Just fig leafed a miniboss encounter ๐||
Okay I'm not taking that cause I'm at the end, but 70% is just silly
Po REALLY wanted you to double it and give it to the next person (you) ๐
Hades 2, kind of a straight weapon damage run this time
And yet it's #3 and #4 of your overall damage ๐
I'm counting specials as weapon damage! ๐
You finally got it? 
yeah!
Didn't really feel any different from many of the previous dialogues, but the minor prophecy updated, so now I am onto the next step!
Oh here's the fun part. ๐
Clarification question
||When it says that I must return to shadow voluntarily, that means I have to finish the run, yes?||
||Remind me what it exactly says again?||
||Take Moros's Keepsake down to Oceanus, clear Doom 3 times, then return to shadow voluntarily||
||Do you want a more direct answer or do you want me to let you somewhat give you a hint and figure it out?||
||Well, my read is that the only time I return to shadow voluntarily is when I beat Chronos. I feel confident that the first half is just "dying" and finishing the encounter within the 10 seconds grace period, which I've already done||
||i literally have not been able to close the romance with moros (it just said "fulfill more prophecies" or whatever and none of the guides were any help whatsoever - almost all of them were early access info only and completely useless/wrong, and the one or two that had 1.0 info, they were just telling me to do things i already had done. a non-zero part of why it was so easy to set the game down and not come back after rolling credits||
||If you try to do something and it doesn't work, the best option is to try the other one right?||
||You probably need to do the find the three fates quest line I think?||
Aah, I didn't read the prophecy closely enough
||Had to be successive chambers. Oh well, we'll do this tomorrow||
Absolutely cracked underworld clear. ||Thanatos axe comes with 40% attack speed, and I got 30% on top of that, with Heroic Aphrodite boon (and epic Apollo on my special), and double omega attack/special legendary (plus some strong burn synergies, but w/e). Killed Chronos while he was summoning the healing hourglasses, and while some of them were healing him. I did switch away from the Keepsake I needed though (wasn't sure if I had to keep it the entire run), so no epilogue, and now for sure I am going to bed!||
โ๏ธ
Ironically, on a run where I thought I had flubbed it, so I was just letting a miniboss wail on me so I can return to camp ๐
Wooo hoo!
Noice!
Epilogue ||aww, look at this unique sprite, I like it!||
||I wanna smooch her||
Just had one of the most goated runs and I lost it all ๐ญ
I could have won too, I was doing diabolical amounts of damage...
Welp, time to try again ๐
Flew too close to the sun
Like a certain boy-shade
Funny you mention that ๐ (my hades 2 top run) ||I had apollos heroic attack AND legendary boon with the skulls.... I was cracked||
||and then also the hex where the moon drops from the sky.... oh that run is gonna hurt for a while ๐||
Now that I am getting to the point where RNG needs to smile on me for the last few achievements / prophecies, some of the builds I am running are starting to get a little silly
Progress update: ||I met Hera! (pretty) Made it to the Eris fight for the first time after I had given her a nectar in camp, rude. So rude. Kind of swapping between the surface and the underworld based on Vibes but Eris and Cerberus are my prog points atm||
||noice. Hera is VERY pretty...||
||So you accidentally did it?
||
Hades 2 gen/up all ||damn, NEARLY beat the surface with twenty fear...ran out of time on phase 4 of Typhon, the constant -5 damage whittled me down enough I took one too many hits than I could...RIP||
Thats all I got in me for tonight though, that was a STRESSFUL run
Hades 2 topside clear ||Worry free is crazy, I was so worried the whole time
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Hades 2 top 3 boss ||okay. Back at prom. Got a cracked lvl 7 dite attack and a heroic deme special. I am going to beat that fine ass man and that bird that I hate into oblivion ๐ฅฐ||
Hades 2 top 4 ||I swear these mini bosses are certified run killers... I can never get past the stupid one with the beak mouth thing ๐ญ||
YES I KNOW RIGHT???
Hades 2 relationships ||Eris girl... please dont drink the bath water ๐ญ||
same ||the mini-bosses in this game are horrible sometimes ๐ญ ||
Glad to know im not the only one going insane
Use your cast more
-# how did you know I forgot
You always forget
Do casts work on minibosses?
Tbf this this time it was a bum ass boon so not reaaaaalllyyyyyyyy my fault
-# yes it is
Just like how my bad runs were because my mouse wasn't working well, mhm mhm
You get damage bonus for enemies in the cast if you have the card active (the card is incredible one of the best in the game)
Do they immobilise them like they do other enemies?
buuuut all isnt lost tonight!
I got a clear!
Hades 2 bottom clear: ||Sub 30 minutes too! oooooo ooooo hestia's boons are so good with the blades~ and I had that deme/hestia duo!||
||also yes thats right my friends i didnt even use death defiances this time hehehehehehe||
||ive been running without them for quite some time (ever since I upgraded that arcana that reduces damage when you have no DDs) and its SOOOOOO much easier||
||well... "easier" being most of my runs being pretty far in, thats still only my third clear... and I have yet to clear the top soooo ๐ ||
hades 2 gen ||there are a few recurring things being mentioned that I wonder if we're building up for something in the future||
hades 2 gen ||why do I read omega as q every time||
Hades 2 1.1 patch ||Apparently a) there's been a huge rework to the ending, and b) an incantation to reset your save (story wise) to before the ending. Sadly I don't know how to unlock said incantation ๐||
||Nah, drink too much bathwater.
||
||Welcome to the Hestia cult. We enjoy all of our food warm.||
It's in beta right now IIRC
Oooohhhhhhh duh, I totally read that and just
Forgot lmao
Hades 2 story ||So that run last night eliminated typhon! Time to bring death to chronos! ....................... but what happens if I just go up again
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Question for those who have finished: ||How far am I from the stuff that's getting changed in 1.1?||
||Was that your first Typhon kill then? And no Chronos kills on record?||
||That was disintegration of monstrosity||
||Ah I guess it's not letting me go up anyway :P||
||Ah, okay. So you've got a similar incanation for Chronos to complete, and that brings you to credits. Between credits and True Ending... depends on how much relationship stuff you've done, but I'd say credits are somewhere between the 30% and 60% mark||
Gotcha
||From what I understand they increase the number of runs you need to do prior to the credits in the underworld, and changed/added dialogues in the ending, I can't remember if they also added/changed stuff about the post-credits epilogue ending. So in a sense you are already doing the stuff that is being changed I believe.||
Assuming you have the patch lol
I have opted in but I haven't yet tried the redo. I have, however, read the patch notes
Hades 2 story ||Okay so maybe this was a bad time to try a judgement+circe run for the first time. Chronos man give me my cards||
The patch changed things?
What's In the Patch 1 Preview
In addition to various bug fixes and some balance changes, this patch contains...โข True Ending Enhancements: Added new events in the lead-up to the True Ending, and some after. As part of this, increased the number of Underworld clears required, and added to and revised parts of the main True Ending scenes before the end credits. Note: The vast majority of changes are to the Underworld route; the Surface route is mostly unchanged.
โข Returning to a Real Possibility: Added Cauldron incantation lets you return to an earlier point in the story in case you wish to re-experience key events, such as the True Ending.
โข Fated Prophecy Adjustments: A number of character-related Prophecies, including the one connected to the story epilogue, should unfold faster than before.
โข Crossroads Renewal: Many decorative items have reduced costs in Kudos compared to before. Any excess Kudos you have already spent will be refunded.
Tho mostly I came to post this unhinged run victory screen (UP!)
In my credits run I had (up 3 event) ||athena|| keepsake on for two full regions and it never triggered ๐
Epilogue ||So your telling me that people won't have to do 20+ runs to get the edgelord to say his dialogue needed to finish the epilogue? You kids have it easy these days. In my time we had to walk on our run to Olypmus instead of having to take the Cerberbus. ๐ด ||
Lets frickin go (down achievement)
God the summit hurts to fight through
Hades 2 gen heheheheheheh
okay i caught up with critrole so lets do some more runs
||Can't be stopped
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Down 3 ||vampire ate both my death defiances and then i died to adds in the next room ๐ญ ||
||I didn't even get to see doggo ๐ญ ||
Used my first (consumable) ||Bath salts|| ||THIS IS IMMEDIATELY BETTER THAN I EXPECTED IT WAS GOING TO BE ||
||I have been throwing nectar at that man for a reason ๐ฅด||
I love all the art in those
You now understand the appeal, huh?
Hades 2 Skelly/post game ||This mother--||
Up 2 ||CAT GET! Toula
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up 2 ||Hello??? Hey who decided to beat him with the Viktor stick in this design????? wow ||
Knew you would like them
Down 3 ||OUPPY ||
yeah this seems like a good amount of health in order to go down and see ||Chronos for the first time, huh? ||
Down end? ||Okay first try with the death defiances and I made it to Phase 2. That was a fun fight ๐ ||
I think I just got every Arcana in one run lmao
Rivals 4 ||OH GOD I HAVE TO FIGHT BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME||
LMAO
Oh nooo I didn't screenshot this utterly unhunged run I had ๐
Run details :||Aspect of Supay and the ares blade dash at like level 9 or something plus the two duos that make it way better (bigger, double drop, drop immediately) and just obliterated everything.||
Hades 2 patch 1 preview FYI ||Resetting the story doesn't change most things progression wise, just dialogue. Obviously resets the epilogue, but all other bonds + minor prophecies seem to stay intact||
Hades 2 late topside boons ๐

Hades 2 top ||I HAVENT EVEN FOUND HIM YET ITS NOT FAIR
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You'll get there
Hades 2 up boons unlock explanation (don't click if you dont' wanna know how to trigger him) ||You get Ares by reaching the final boss at least once. You don't need to BEAT it, just reach the room, iirc||
||https://www.instagram.com/p/DQHJWWliAdL/?igsh=MjVodDRzOWhnOG9t|| fan art of a hot springs relationship
Night 9: Retribution incarnate finally made it to the hot springs!
#hades2 #nemesis #melinoe
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rikku has a whole series of these, I love them
Oh boooyyyyy
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She's normally a little bit unhinged in her interviews but she's extra unhinged here I think because she's friends with Zeke's wife and felt relatively comfortable 
Who does she play? Hecate?
yeah
Amelia is a delight
Ooh, I used to watch itmejp a lot.
Perhaps best known for her role as the Baldur's Gate 3 narrator, which comes up a lot in this interview as well
"Hades fanbase, for the most part, very thirst. A thirsty bunch"
She thought she was safe as Hecate from the thirsty fanart
bless her heart
How foolish
She wasn't safe from thirsty fans in BG3 where she played a disembodied voice.
Yeah some of what she had to narrate though
True
Hades 2 gen/artemis ||GAYGAYGAYGAY||
Completing the Narcissus and Chaos minor prophecies is starting to feel like a waste of time...
I need one item off each, and I am just not getting them
Wow, just did up 2 boss without taking any damage
A first for me
Turns out ||momus with lots of apollo|| is kinda good
Dang, was gunning for apollo legendary the entire run but never hit ๐ญ
Would've been crazy on this aspect
Is that ||Eris? I can't count||
I don't like that aspect very much ๐
I like not having to think very much about what I'm doing, it kinda plays itself ๐
Another clear! Hades 2 bottom clear ||This one was my fastest yet! It was really effortless this time, like I took huge damage from cro and I still cleaned up quick||
Helps when @blazing peak is yelling at you to cast forever (I know i should and it helped but still) ๐
Mannnn that boss is what I'm stuck on on that side, I can't imagine hitless. Congrats!
strong build
I really struggle on them too, probably still my worst boss overall. (Not counting extreme measures.) I think my build just worked out well for them this time
When I make mistakes I cascade into more mistakes I feel like. That run I was pumping out damage so I didn't have time to make the first mistake ๐
See, Time really is free fear
I can't do an 18 minute run, I just stop to smell the flowers too much ๐
I think my fastest down clear is like...sub 13
Certianly with my newfound abilities and coaching ill be able to clear the top right ๐ฅด
it's miraculous what a few deaths against the same boss will do to your ability to avoid damage
Omg speaking of
Hades 2 bottom final boss ||Fighting against chronos last night, and you know that part where he tells you to hop in the circle? Yeah so I missed it and learned that he one shots you if you dont stay in the lil circle ๐ญ||
So we learned lots of lessons that day
heh
Yuuppp. ||He's got I think 2 attacks like that, both where he puts the scythe above his head and it ticks like a clock||
||I was handling that mechanic consistently at first, then I went through a period of a few runs where I forgot how to deal with it if the circle wasn't visible on my screen, and just... died every time, not understanding why||
I learned that lesson very quickly
Bottom boss ||Ate the instakill twice in my first fight against him||
Lmao
Called off sick from work today, so early run. Hades 2 Topside clear ||Fun medea run. Load all 6 charges with one press, then special in the general direction of the enemy, rinse and repeat.||
||I had a similar run once, though I don't remember if I had the +2 shells in addition to Wide Grin. It's a weird playstyle, but big dam||
Yeah it was certainly unique
Chuckling at attack having done 5x more damage than the second most damage source
I bring an important message https://bsky.app/profile/bilidongdongdong.bsky.social/post/3m46mwoj22622
yeeesssss
Post pic
In a minute!! XD
Hades 2 top ||it is so funny how I kept getting stuck literally 2 rooms before the final boss + first tried it btw||
Heres the proof hehe
Hades 2 top clear ||That apollo + hera duo helped a tonnnn on the surface, and over all the damage was insane. I didn't expect typhon to be sooooooo quick?? Like I expected this second phase thing and it didnt happen but who cares I DID IT WOOOO||
Hades 2 mechanics ||I've noticed some gods dont show up much on the surface - are there some that can't show up? Or are the odds just different||
||because a lot of my preferred gods don't show up much and I'm trying to figure out if its worth using their keepsake to get the boons I like||
||nvm its working||