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low gorge
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i know i literally would not use it after tonight

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the eps are so long i'd be watching it in multiple parts over the week (or even later than the week it airs)

lilac agate
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C4 || Laura said to clap too awww||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||just don't roll a 1 and another failure and ez||

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C4 ||whoops||

summer perch
lilac agate
summer perch
tulip mountain
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C4 ||didn't they throw the grate away before anyway?||

summer perch
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c4 ||Oh grate||

lilac agate
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C4 || Travis: ohnohno my wife will kill me if I fail||

tulip mountain
light meadow
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I already generally think this is going to be better recieved than CR3, at least the start of it

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Brennan's got his foot on the pedal hard and CR3 was just such a slowroll of a start

lilac agate
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It’s good vibes so far

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Lots of interesting characters

midnight elm
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I think CR3 was kind of... really hurt by how chaotic the character choices were

lilac agate
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C4 ||Laura always goes hard||

summer perch
midnight elm
lilac agate
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I had problems with CR3 and I see none of those issues with these characters

midnight elm
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CR4 ||everyone seems locked in on the tone||

lilac agate
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C4 || I can’t wait to see more of Liam’s character after the funeral ||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||smh if it wasn't milestone Thimble would be a level up on everyone else now šŸ˜” ||

midnight elm
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C4 ||cannot wait to see the shapeshift||

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nvm

tulip mountain
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C4 ||gods katt is such a trope 😭 ||

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C4 ||oh no he's a chuuni 😭 ||

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C4 ||HE HAS WITCHER VISION 😭 ||

summer perch
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C4 ||Clue?||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||or I guess Aragorn vision if you are a boomer||

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C4 ||another new spell?||

lilac agate
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C4 ||oh no he’s hot||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||'it does no damage, no one uses it' too true šŸ˜” ||

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C4 ||TAL POG||

summer perch
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C4 ||How many people is that now?||

lilac agate
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||so 10||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||I love Tal so much lmao||

lilac agate
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C4 ||Lmao||

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The man the myth the legend

summer perch
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C4 ||Is Matt the scab? wha ||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||what is funny to me is that they are all level 3 LUL ||

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C4 ||that is a lot of history for a bunch of low level shmucks||

summer perch
lilac agate
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C4 || oh no LUL the accent ||

summer perch
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C4 ||Country Marisha sylheart ||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||wizard, huh?||

lilac agate
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C4 ||the class make-up is fascinating lol||

summer perch
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C4 ||So no fighter, barbs, rangers?(there might be a ranger? Not sure if I remember, someone had a pet?)||

lilac agate
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||and Matt is a fighter/rogue||

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Oh this is the moment they mentioned in trailers

tulip mountain
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C4 ||oh Matt is going to have a lot of fun with this character LUL ||

lilac agate
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C4 ||there it is LUL spitting on the dead lolol||

shell cargo
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How is it so far?

lilac agate
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Really good

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C4 || I love Matt lol||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||is this Ashley's character?||

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C4 ||lmao called it||

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C4 ||cleric or warlock???||

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C4 ||PALADIN???||

lilac agate
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||ANOTHER PALADIN HAHHAHAHAH||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||oh that is a fun concept lmao||

lilac agate
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C4 ||someone who served the gods is fuuuuuunnnn||

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C4 ||me being a big Paladin stan is winning rn||

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C4 ||Marisha is just vibing lol||

tulip mountain
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C4 ||okay so Tal and Marisha are Lore 100%||

lilac agate
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Wow

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I have a lot of thoughts

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Super interesting

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C4 ||I’ll be trying to think of table breakdowns. It’s fascinating how many doubled classes there are. THREE paladins. I am living my best life. So many problems to SMITE ||

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There was a lot lol

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I look forward to a few weeks from now when (C4) ||it is smaller groups so I can think about one group at a time lol||

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||it is funny how intense everyone is minus Murray ||

shell cargo
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||Paladin is the best||

lilac agate
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Always

tulip mountain
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C4 ||this is a fun setup, even if I don't like the deterministic nature of it||

vale quartz
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Many cubes šŸ˜…

tulip mountain
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yo big pog!!!

wheat moat
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Do not eat the fake jelly.

vale quartz
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Now I just need the big dice. and to finish revising the system and preparing content

tulip mountain
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CR campaign 4 ||with how the first episode went I think Bolaire, Vaelus, Murray are pretty much locks for Lore table; Azune, Occtis and Thimble for Rogue; and Teor, Thaisha and Katt for combat||

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||I could see Azune being in combat but like he was their plant on the inside that's pretty much as Rogue as it gets lmao||

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||I want to lump all the nobles in the Rogue table, but I'm not sure about Julien tbh. I think both Tyranny and Wiccander are in Rogue because I don't see them being separate at least in the beginning and they seem more intrigue focused than lore or combat||

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like going from what little we've seen of how these characters interact with each other and what we know about them atm

compact marsh
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Got the beacon free trial to listen to it on the train

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C4 ||the message overuse in the first FIVE minutes lmao||

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||wait are they even doing message? How are they conveying all that through lip reading from across a courtyard 😭 ||

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||MORE MESSAGE SHENANIGANS||

thin spindle
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The Fabula Ultima KS is probably gonna break €1,000,000 today or tomorrow. Good for them

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Currently at 900k

gritty crane
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I also love character sheet interaction, be it with trackers/resource management/whatever, give me a reason to scratch it up with eraser marks and I'm sold

lilac agate
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I thought I’d (C4) ||get a better sense of who goes to what table, but I can see so many options now||

light meadow
lilac agate
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C4 ||yeah, they will probably be static for the first few switches, but changes groups as their character demands ||

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||I think
Soldiers:
Kattigan, Murray, Teor, Thaisha

Seekers:
Occtis, Bolaire, Vaelus, Thimble

Schemers:
Julien, Wick, Tyranny, and Azune

I don’t know where I’d put Hal yet because we haven’t seen what is motivating him apart from the funeral||

balmy coral
# compact marsh ||MORE MESSAGE SHENANIGANS||

|| On d20 Brennan often treats message like telepathy, so I’ve come to expect.

I did realize they’ve removed the vocal component from message in the 2024 rules so it’s more arguable but it still has components. ||

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|| or did Luis subtle spell? I’m trying to remember if he used meta magic. Not sure what his split is. ||

low gorge
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||it is also still magic, so the fact that it's spoken in a whisper doesn't mean other people around them can hear the whisper||

balmy coral
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Right - but || I do think using it for more than a single exchange without being noticed is still a stretch. Even if they can’t be overheard, someone at some point might notice you are casting the spell.

It doesn’t really bother me how Brennan does it, but I do kind of treat message=telepathy as a house rule for his tables because it never feels like players are constrained by the word limits of the spell and have full conversations. ||

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|| subtle spell is the answer to that, but costs sorcery points so it still limits the power of the cantrip. ||

low gorge
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||yeah the length of the exchange I just give to the drama||

balmy coral
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|| In gameplay though, I like harder limits on message so it doesn’t devalue more powerful spells like telepathic bond. in actual play, yeah being able to have the characters have easier access that ability leads to some good exchanges.

It also depends on your table, because if people have class abilities like GOO warlock or subtle spell, it might suck if folks can do the same thing as your class features with a cantrip. ||

sleek sluice
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||Mmm I was about to chime in that I’m not a massive fan of Message being used that way exactly for that reason as someone playing a telepathic character||

low gorge
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||like for me, I literally never care if my character is obviously using or answering a message spell as long as it follows the RAW that no one else can hear the message||

sleek sluice
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||There’s still some differences with Awakened Mind that would make me reach for that first, but the casting distance is a big limitation that gets removed with Message||

balmy coral
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For sure. || I think Azune’s use though it was pretty key to the story that he wasn’t noticed - so that’s where it starts to feel like message abuse for me. ||

grim sentinel
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My reaction opening this channel:

balmy coral
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lol

balmy coral
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(Critical role campaign 4 in case there’s any genuine confusion remaining for you or anyone else )

kind girder
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CR4 for short.

balmy coral
thin spindle
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Coming into the non-cosmere RPG channel and seeing a wall of spoilered text is certainly something

thorn prawn
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I unfortunately couldn’t watch much I wish they let you go back during the livestream instead of it being locked in the exact moment.

compact marsh
tulip mountain
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c4 ||I think that's just a tv show thing tbh||

wheat moat
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-# Every time I open the channel I have to mentally shift gears away from "Why are they all talking about explosives?".

summer perch
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C4 ||I thought the first session was... Alright? But there honestly were too many people and moving parts, my brain honestly can't collect any of the lore or about characters and it isn't enjoyable.||

balmy coral
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I also feel like I need a || family tree or relationship web for at least the fangs. ||

summer perch
low gorge
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CR4 ||Having the subtitles on really helped me stay focused and retain info, it was a lot of people, but everything that happened felt clear to follow and I felt I got the gist of the important and relevant stuff||

balmy coral
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I also just find learning curve with names and stuff is part and parcel for these campaigns. But Brennan is pretty good at minimizing that.

low gorge
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i found I was able to follow much more than I usually can for these sorts of things

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I think part of what helped, ironically, is that there were so many players that each scene had to be relatively short

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I find I lose attention when a scene goes on for ages

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so this was long but each scene felt exciting and relevant and even snappy

thorn prawn
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Give them 5-10 and the party and characters will codify

sleek sluice
thorn prawn
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Funny dnd story last session one of my players just kinda forgot and assumed he was part of an organization and part of me wanted to say that wasn’t the case the other part of me was like wait finally one of you cares about this organization and the second part won out so I’m gonna keep pretending this was always the case

lilac agate
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CR4 || I’m most excited to see more Bolaire, Julien, and Occtis because they were so much fun||

compact marsh
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Listening to c4 again

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||NOT THE USE OF SPELL SLOTS FOR ROLEPLAY AGAIN||

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||AABRIA JUST CAST PLANT GROWTH||

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||A THIRD LEVEL SPELL||

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||WHO EVEN PREPS PLANT GROWTH||

light meadow
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I mean

compact marsh
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||also she misread the spell because she needs to cast it for eight hours for it to have an affect for one year||

light meadow
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CR4 ||Generally speaking the spell economy is going to be a lot more favorable for the players since there are a lot of them||

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||Bigger tables can absolutely be a little freer with spell usage||

compact marsh
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||that’s one way to balance for an overly large table I guess 😭 ||

thorn prawn
light meadow
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||Once they're in a dungeon or what have you obviously that calculation changes but everyone knows they don't need to exactly strategize around the economy in this episode||

thorn prawn
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yeah casting spells out of combat is fun especially if you have no expectation of combat. And if you do then you get to have fun trying to make ends meet

compact marsh
thorn prawn
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Strong disagree there i want that effect to be massive

compact marsh
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||although I guess you can do the exclusion thing||

thorn prawn
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and its not difficult terrain and stacks with other sources so you can get super movement supression

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most enemies don't have range going by the MM and other cannon books and even when they do they almost always do less damage.

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Spells no less than A tier its so strong

compact marsh
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It’s a) super situational and b) unless you’re starting combat from 150 ft away, it means that you get yourself caught in the radius

thorn prawn
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Its not really situational?

compact marsh
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I guess you can do the exclusion thing and just say it has a smaller radius but that feels kinda cheese

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thorn prawn
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Yes but that doesn't mean the whole area has to be covered in foliage to be effected you could put a bag of beans on the point you click and then poof 100 feet.

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and even if you ran it the other way theres tons of fights outside

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its the best third level druid spell not named conjure animals ( 2024) and conjure animals+ meld to stone in 2014

compact marsh
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Hmmmm

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I’m gonna ask my dnd group for their takes

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But I guess it depends on DM fiat

tulip mountain
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I mean

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it's not like the competition is tough

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unless I'm playing specifically a water druid or a healer I'd rather use that slot on a lower level spell lmao

thorn prawn
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oh i forgot to mention non concentration.

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in a class were almost all the early spells are concentration

tulip mountain
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dispel magic is a problematic one tbh

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it should at least suppress magic items but then it's way too op

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and if it doesn't it doesn't feel good to use

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can be useful situationally but other than that eh

compact marsh
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Okay I still feel like plant growth is worse than entangle tbh

thorn prawn
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Id take plant growth over entangle any day

compact marsh
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Keep in mind entangle is a first level spell

tulip mountain
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I'm water aspected

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my favourite third level druid spell is Tidal Wave 😌

low gorge
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tbh i'm completely mentally in the habit of perceiving way more flexibility with spells during rp segments and get more strict in combat. would not even occur to me to even have the initial thought

thorn prawn
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You can stack the two spells

tulip mountain
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wish water magic was better šŸ˜”

thorn prawn
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Plant growth isn't concentration, its not difficult terrain it fills a specific niche that makes it extrodinarily usable

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Its a massive area and thus hard to walk out of

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20 feet you can avoid very easily

compact marsh
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Well, not if you cast it where the people are

thorn prawn
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I mean you cast it where the enemies are and your party can basically instantly shut down the enemy

tulip mountain
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C4 ||Speaking of Thaisha, I think it's interesting that Aabria said 'my wildshape' instead of just wildshape and it's heat related. Makes me think she only has one wildshape form instead of being able to take any animal, and possibly it's a fire elemental||

compact marsh
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It’s useful if a) you start combats from 100 ft away which nobody does and b) if none of the enemies have ranged attacks

thorn prawn
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you don't need to start combats from 100 feet away. If your party has better raneg ( which you should) just stand where you are and take pot shots

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The odds that you have range and they don't is high and you also can stack the effect with other effects to make them unable to act

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It ends up making them bunch up most of the time as well especially if you have forced movement effects

low gorge
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(a) people do and (b) limiting enemies ability to come closer/flee is a huge benefit that does NOT go away just because some people have ranged attacks?

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tulip mountain
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C4 ||the way she uses plants makes me think she is a Land druid but that Wild Shape thing makes me think old Moon circle||

thorn prawn
# compact marsh This makes the paladins and barbs unable to play the game lol

Paladins can still operate they provide valuable support via Aura and spells, Barbs can chuck sticks. But yes this is one of the problems with barb. Think of this as payback for all the times Barb ruins plans by running up next to the enemy making it difficult to use specific spells as you end up targeting an ally

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Though in 2024 this just means the barb can save their rages for Skill checks.

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That said talk to your party before hand. Some tables are fine with taking the optimal play at the price of some people contributing less and others would rather the fight be harder in exchange for everyone contributing. That said doesn't change the power of the spell itself.

tulip mountain
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and this is why you should not optimal D&D, especially 5e 😌

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summer perch
thorn prawn
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I mean that’s what water does

summer perch
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I kind of wish there was a paladin subclass that focused on healing/buffing. šŸ˜”

thorn prawn
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Devotion?

sleek sluice
# compact marsh ||WHO EVEN PREPS PLANT GROWTH||

||I used Plant Growth once inside a magic plant book and it grew a giant magic tree with libraries and people inside of it (At least I think that's what happened, I might be conflating two things by accident - either way I remember usiing Plant Growth and it did something really cool 😁) ||

dense mulch
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Painting a Githyanki

lilac agate
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Tsk’va!

kind girder
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Chk

white rock
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Thanks, guys! @brazen tendon @thorn prawn

brazen tendon
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You brought my attention back to it LUL

compact marsh
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C4 ||lmao the first attack roll is against a magpie||

compact marsh
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||okay I definitely think the Seekers will be Liam, Sam, Whitney, and someone else||

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||it seems like they’re the ones who are going to investigate why Wickander’s family didn’t get the pardon||

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||and then another group with Luis, Travis, Laura and some other people to investigate were Travis’ brother is and why the other plan didn’t go off||

compact marsh
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Also with the way c4 works, it’s gonna be a few weeks of one table at a time right?

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Or are we going to cycle through new tables every week?

livid geode
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We dont know officially yet. But i would assume we will stick to a single table for an arc before switching to another. Rather than switch every week

jade tide
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Brennan did call this first arc an "Overture" where we have the potential see everyone on screen in an episode. Like with the first episode. And then after they will break off

golden flame
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C4 ||lmao at Brennan forcing Laura to roll death saves before she even gets a chance to play her character||

lilac agate
gritty crane
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Last night in the Underdark...

  • The party did not do well against the Flameskulls (the dice were mean to them). Of the five party members, three were unconscious post-combat. Our party lacks a healer, but had two healing potions. Much debate was had over who would be brought back to consciousness, but in the end, it didn't matter because...
  • The geyser erupted while the party was still inside the cavern, causing the waystop to flood with boiling water, rendering the two newly wakened party members unconscious. The third unconscious party member took damage, triggering death saves, which they failed.
  • After gathering themselves, the party worked to climb out of the geyser and to safety, but this proved difficult (the dice were mean to them). During the monk's series of failed athletics checks (a series of seven to eight attempts), the geyser erupted again, which triggered death saves for the unconscious party member she was carrying on her back. It also caused the monk to fall, leading to the carried party member to take more damage. They did not save their third death save.
  • Finally having escaped the Pit of Despair (as it is now called), the party took a much needed rest, then decided what to do next. The monk, while scouting, found a monastery off in the distant cavern. Hoping for signs of life and a potential aid, the party made their way in that direction rather than attempting to brave their way back to the surface. They arrived safely and were welcomed warmly, but found that the monastery has been under repeated seige by neogi. More so, the monastery seems to be very good friends with a local wizard, and the party quickly realized this is the same wizard they just robbed. Now, the party hopes to find a way to resurrect their fallen allies at the monastery before this wizard catches wind of their visit.
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I'm currently working on a "resurrection-quest" for the fallen party members, the players of those characters are planning to play monks from the monastery during said quest :)

wheat moat
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After two weeks off, we return to ... Invisible Sun.

The party continued to try and work out the geography of a place without geography, decided to go home, and then went to an old haunt they haven't been back to in years to show the new party member another half-world that they also don't understand. But which they previously stole blueprints to make from ... god? God? GOD?
After some experiments the new guy determines that if he flies too close to the sun (well, one of the 17. Well, the one sun that's in 17 places in the half-world...) he'll both burn to death and his soul will be shredded. So mercifully decides not to that.

Then they decide to use powerful magic to teleport to where ever the "Keyholder" is and to bother them with questions...

gritty crane
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I have to respect a player for testing just how close to the (one of seventeen) suns he can get. True wizard behavior.

wheat moat
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The half-world is ... strange.

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There's a sun in the middle, but it's too close for comfort - yet everything is not burning up or dying. It's still several miles up in the sky, but we're talking tens not millions. (And therefore also much smaller than an actual sun.)
At ground level there are sixteen cities which fly around in a circle on moth wings, the centre of the circle being the point directly below the sun - although the circle is again multiple miles across. But none of them are crisped to death by the very close sun.
Somewhere in each city there's a locked room that contains a glass globe on a tall stand* which has a sun inside it.

Except that magical analysis reveals that it's not a sun, it's the same sun as the one outside - and that all the cities are chained together with magic that creates a wheel and spokes back to the central sun.
Getting close to the one in the city saps magic and life if you get too close to the glass, so they determined that given everything outside wasn't burnt to death there must be a shield around the sky-sun and decided to fly up and check.

Partway there he remembered he had a spell that tells you "the biggest effect in the most likely future resulting from taking a particular action" - the result of which on "flying to the sun" was "you burn to death and your soul is shredded".

So he decided not to do that. :P

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These rooms all contain a keyhole that someone (the Keyholder) comes along every century or so, and turns a key in.
Plus, if you can turn a key simultaneously in all the rooms, then something happens with whatever magical machiney these cities/suns are.

gritty crane
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This is the kind of crazy magic nonsense I live for.

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C4 ||also if one of the tables is Travis, Alex, Robbie, Laura, and Luis, then I guess that’s gonna be the designated furry table||

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||that said idk if they’d have two paladins though||

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C4 ||I wonder what the crofters village is though||

compact marsh
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C4 ||that would also mean that all of the other tables have basically no melee characters though, so maybe not||

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||actually, if one party has Matt and one has Ashley it could also work||

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||oh wait, Travis might be with Sam, so then one table would be Sam, Travis, Whitney, Aabria and Liam, and one would be Laura, Alex, Robbie, and Luis||

lilac agate
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BUT (c4) || I suspect the divide will be investigating Thjazi’s betrayer, stone of Night Song, and Sundered Houses politics ||

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C4 || so I’d divide that as
Soldiers: Travis, Luis, Marisha, Robbie
Seekers: Ashley, Laura, Liam, Taliesin
Schemers: Matt, Alex, Sam, Whitney, Aabria
Maybe???||

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||swap Marisha with Laura?||

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||Laura’s got connections to both the stone and the Thjazi plot ||

thorn prawn
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I’m not done but once I am I will disagree on a couple I think

lilac agate
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light meadow
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If they're gonna swap around I don't know that balanced parties are ever going to be a meaningful reason for people to be grouped together

thorn prawn
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No but for the first period I think it’s at least a consideration

rapid sleet
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@lilac agate c4 || LOL WHAT ARE SAM’S STATS||

rapid sleet
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C4 || ā€œcan I eat thatā€ || I’m dead she’s my new fav

compact marsh
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||also I love Sam’s character in this, for once||

rapid sleet
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C4 || wait Sam’s character is a member of the religious cult housešŸ‘€ ||

thorn prawn
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||His hp is literally impossible for a cleric or warlock he has to be a sorc unless he messed up and no one noticed || croll c4 all spoilers

rapid sleet
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Okay Whitney/||tyranny has great vibes||

thorn prawn
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||I’m really enjoying how they are dealing with tieflings in the setting || c4 all

rapid sleet
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C4 || lol them drunk at the funeral, Liam and Sam having the back room convo , WE’RE SO BACK Y’ALL||

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C4 ||I WANT SOME ANSWERS TOO. WE’RE COOKING Y’ALL||

light meadow
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Which like

thorn prawn
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naw C2 had a better intro

light meadow
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I've listened to a lot of actual plays and most of them take some time (as many as ten+ sessions sometimes) for the players to really find some good character dynamics so it isn't really a surprise

thorn prawn
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C2's first arc was mid but its first epsiode is iconic

light meadow
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I was not nearly as charmed by CR2's opener as most of its adherents were I think

compact marsh
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C2 had a really good Caleb and Nott intro, but the jester shenanigans got old in the first episode

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Also I think tyranny is a repeat of jester but Brennan seems more willing to give Whitney pushback on her behaviour

light meadow
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Just about every player seems to have a very clear idea of who their character is and they're going really hard in the paint on that character in CR4 and I think at best like three or four people did in CR2 and one of those was definitely Laura LUL

light meadow
compact marsh
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Campaign 4/ mild racism tw ||I’ve seen people complaining about aabria in this episode being annoying but I think some of that is racism because Whitney was definitely 100% worse and nobody complained about her||

light meadow
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Wait what

rapid sleet
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|| I liked them both getting drunk ||

light meadow
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||What is there even to complain about with Aabria||

compact marsh
rapid sleet
golden flame
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Was gonna say "is it the racism "

compact marsh
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The main critical role sub is overly positive about some of the choices

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But the other subs dislike for aabria is 100% racism 😭

rapid sleet
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Is that because they like it or the mods delete anything critical

compact marsh
golden flame
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Yeah its hard to tell with reddit sometimes

rapid sleet
compact marsh
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You are not allowed to notice when taliesin is concentrating on three spells at once😭

#

I actually like taliesin’s roleplay in general but his mechanics are terrible

rapid sleet
#

I don’t really dislike any of the cast I just… god the fandom is just soooooooo

low gorge
#

they're so racist about Aabria and they get so mad and insulted when anyone suggests it is, because of course they would recognize what bias looks like when it happens

golden flame
#

What's the other sub ?

compact marsh
#

Laura in c2 definitely got to be too much towards the end

rapid sleet
#

And then there’s just the forced positivity…

compact marsh
rapid sleet
#

I think c2 struggled a lot post covid break too

#

Which like… understandable

compact marsh
#

C3 had a really weak start and apparently it didn’t get better… so I didn’t watch it LUL

#

In the clips I’ve seen, there’s just no synergy lmao

light meadow
compact marsh
#

That in itself is an improvement

light meadow
#

I think Taliesin kind of just got to do his thing in CR1 because he was the most experienced player at the table by a good amount and that just calcified as their dynamic

#

Obfuscated further by the homebrew abominations

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(I'm not sure we actually know nobody's a homebrew abomination yet)

compact marsh
#

Also Matt isn’t that good at homebrewing classes

thorn prawn
rapid sleet
#

No || blood hunter šŸ™Œ ||

thorn prawn
light meadow
#

I'd actually be surprised if no one was a homebrew abomination because Brennan's talked about referring players to Crawford and Perkins for mechanical ideas

compact marsh
thorn prawn
#

at the very least they are using homebrew spells

rapid sleet
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I like that so far in c4 || haven’t gotten to the break yet. But everybody so far seems pretty like normal. C3 just felt like everybody was haha let’s be weird ||

thorn prawn
compact marsh
thorn prawn
#

that wasn't what i was talking about but yes brennan is pretty liberal with message yes

tulip mountain
#

I love Jester šŸ™

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also it's not a CR comment section without people being racist to Aabria, unfortunately

compact marsh
#

C4 ||how many kids and step kids do thaisha and hal have 😭 ||

rapid sleet
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C4 || HAHAHAHHAHAHA GOING INTO THE BREAK WITH THAT ||

tulip mountain
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racist and misogynist tbh

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they are a bit nicer to black men

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I also like C3 quite a bit

#

possibly more than c2 but that might just be me liking Ashton a whole lot

low gorge
#

i'm watching c4 despite a number of the players being present and i admit i have to get over a bit of lip-curling for some of them

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aabria's not one of them though

compact marsh
#

Out of curiosity, who do you have issue with?

low gorge
#

liam and sam

thorn prawn
#

really

rapid sleet
#

C4 post break || god it would’ve been so funny if she died though ||

low gorge
#

i don't love jester but it's not because of laura, i was witness to a great deal of fandom drama in C2 that was part and parcel of when i stopped watching cr entirely and jester took a lot of emotional driveby for it, for which i simply do not care enough to address in my heart

compact marsh
low gorge
#

it was a problem for me in c2, i'm not surprised liam is doing it again, and in fact Hal seems more or less fine, though i doubt i'll ever love him. the way he is a sad boi is grating and i find him deeply annoying

#

c2 ||also pissed/offended/resigned at the way he baits m/m ships with zero actual buy-in or commitment to playing them out, so as much as i tend to like ships like caleb/essek, liam ruined it all for me. i can't even enjoy essek at all||

compact marsh
#

Liam is one of the best role players IMO and I think Caleb was one of the most compelling crit role characters but some of the stuff he does (like roleplaying shopping sessions in mind grinding detail) is pretty annoying

low gorge
#

he can be the best and it doesn't really matter if it's not to my taste

compact marsh
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C2 ||I was deeply annoyed at how the essek thing was handled but that was mostly on Matt for giving him one of the most unconvincing redemption arcs of all time||

#

||genuinely ticked me off tbh||

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C2 ||I also think that the way Caleb’s backstory, especially Astrid, was handled was pretty unconvincing, the way they didn’t care about him at all and weren’t hunting him down as a threat||

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||that’s mostly Matt’s fault though because Liam was 100% roleplaying being on the run||

light meadow
#

"Liam is one of the best role players" is a take that feels weaker each time he plays the same character

low gorge
#

he's not a person i ever will interact with, he's an actor who has a presence i dislike and when his job fundamentally boils down to having a presence that people will like, it's just ... shrug me saying "i just don't like him" is all the relevant information required

compact marsh
light meadow
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Or at least each time he plays a character that leans into the same kind of angst

compact marsh
#

Also vex and caleb were pretty different

compact marsh
#

Liam can be pretty annoying

light meadow
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CR3 general ||Even with Orym it was like, his whole schtick was that he was supposed to be The Normal Guy but then when he wasn't normal and activated Liam Roleplay Mode he was sad||

karmic bear
compact marsh
karmic bear
#

Crying emoji but you know it’s true

compact marsh
#

I do think Vax and Caleb were pretty different though

light meadow
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Different in story but uncomfortably similar in substance

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Liam has one trick and he's very good at that one trick but it has also been a decade

#

And if like Grey that trick does nothing for you, well

karmic bear
#

(To me) it worked for Caleb but not for his other characters

low gorge
#

and the thing that is the extra sandpaper on the wound is that i like the archetype

#

i like the kind of character

compact marsh
#

Caleb also had decent character development

#

Start of campaign Caleb and end of campaign Caleb were very different

karmic bear
#

Vax also had character development. I simply didn’t care for it

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I did not finish C3, but my impression is that Orym stayed mostly the same as a result of the aforementioned spine removal surgery

rapid sleet
karmic bear
#

Oh I meant before that part

light meadow
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I don't know that "had character development" and "is a different kind of character" are necessarily equatable statements

rare fable
tulip mountain
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I love Aabria though I don't like the "I heard this comment/conversation" thing she does sometimes

#

sometimes I like it and think it adds to the dynamic because she is a really good roleplayer but sometimes it does feel a bit much

#

there's been like one or two moments in C3 where her character heard a comment that they shouldn't have been able to to start an interaction

low gorge
#

that's the kind of stuff i don't even notice let alone be bothered by, that's dnd parties all the time

#

me and my party are always like "DAMN that's a juicy thing to overhear, can i finagle things so that i was thereeeee"

tulip mountain
#

that's true yeah

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it's something I accept as part of the normal D&D interactions but does annoy me a little

#

also Taliesin sometimes does that too

#

he did it especially with uh

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the firbolg character forgot the name atm

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Caduceus!

light meadow
#

It was pretty much always more interesting to have Caduceus walk in on a conversation than not

#

He was just so out of step with the rest of the party that it usually produced something good

tulip mountain
#

I don't feel a strong way or another about Caleb or Vax tbh

#

I like Orym's silly moments

#

that sad and silly thing he's got going on especially with the Calamity crew works for me

compact marsh
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They were all either boring or annoying

rapid sleet
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Didn’t love that half of them were retreads

karmic bear
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And that’s why I stopped watching at episode 14 or so

compact marsh
#

I still think fjord was the best character overall and Travis the best overall player

karmic bear
tulip mountain
#

eh a lot of them were great

karmic bear
#

No more callbacks

tulip mountain
#

Ashton obviously but Chetney was incredible too

compact marsh
rapid sleet
#

Also so glad we’re back to c4 || lots of magic characters ||

tulip mountain
#

Laudna was very fun as well

#

I'm not a Fearne fan šŸ˜”

light meadow
#

CR3 found its footing eventually but then lost it when they broke the party apart for like actually 25 episodes

low gorge
#

c4 theorizing ||i sense no clerics for me 😭 i love clerics but i don'tttt think i'm getting one||

tulip mountain
#

Robbie's character was pretty fun too

compact marsh
#

Okay I found the Marisha x Laura pair in C3 unbearable in the clips I did watch

light meadow
#

But then got it over the finish line pretty strongly actually

tulip mountain
#

I'm a yuri supporter but Imogen x Laudna is not in my top 100

karmic bear
rapid sleet
compact marsh
#

Robbie was great in c3

tulip mountain
#

FCG was an interesting character

#

and Braius was great

light meadow
#

Imogen never bothered me, and while Laudna started as maybe my least favorite CR character, Marisha did eventually figure out a good balance for me

rapid sleet
#

This episode has hooked me way more than e1 of c3

tulip mountain
#

Imogen and Orym were characters that existed

karmic bear
#

My reaction to seeing c3 e1: oh god we’re stuck with those characters from the mini arc. Not you Dorian, you’re great

tulip mountain
#

they had their moments tbf

#

C3 also had some of the best NPCs

rapid sleet
#

I was so disappointed

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I didn’t hate the mini arc it’s just

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Like come on

karmic bear
#

Not an npc obv

#

Wait hang on let’s sort this out via poll

tulip mountain
#

Otohan my queen šŸ™

thorn prawn
rapid sleet
#

lol,they blurred Liam’s iPad’s screen when he was logging into something

karmic bear
#

No identity fraud

tulip mountain
#

ngl

#

I'm not a big fan of Brennan as a DM

#

he feels a bit railroady at times

rapid sleet
tulip mountain
#

which tbf is what the CR crew seem to want at times, they can feel a bit directionless if they aren't given clear objectives

#

but I personally don't like

thorn prawn
rapid sleet
rapid sleet
#

c4 || finally Marisha and her ā€œbig ole rackā€ show up||

lilac agate
lilac agate
# compact marsh Tbh my impression of the c3 characters is that none of them were good

The C3 characters had a lot of problems for me but most of it related to ||none having interesting backstories that tied to the gods plot in a way that led to interesting dialogue, plus they all selected toxic characters. Like Ashton and Laudna are the ones most apparent but they were odd and had these toxic traits that weren’t helped by the party but actively aided to get worse. Everything felt so off about the characters and the way other characters interacted with them because they were all weirdos / addicted personalities / joke characters and no straight man characters to take charge (with Liam taking a backseat). So we got a lot of floundering and no decision making, while the party members with internal conflicts were essentially alcoholics handed some more wine by the rest of the party ||

tulip mountain
lilac agate
#

But I do generally enjoy every single player

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And I love Brennan

lilac agate
rapid sleet
#

C4 || is this the first time we’ve had like real antagonism between PCs?||

upbeat forge
compact marsh
light meadow
#

Well if Liam wasn't gonna do it

#

I kind of think Imogen's main character energy in particular was more Matt's fault than anything in some ways because her backstory just was the main questline he had

compact marsh
#

Well fjord was indisputably the main character of c2, not Caleb

light meadow
#

Which ended up working for me! But I think if the main quest was uninteresting to any given viewer a lot of what works about CR3 suddenly does not work

#

Which isn't true of the other two

compact marsh
#

Also for the polls, I voted vox machina for best party because I do think they had a kind of fun dynamic the mighty nein were lacking but mighty nein also worked really well

#

I think the Fjord-Beau-Caleb duo ended up being pretty solid but a lot of the rest fell short

thorn prawn
#

||On the other hand he’s the perfect average for a sorc his level ||c4

karmic bear
thorn prawn
#

||Yeah I struggle to call fjord the mc when they largely abandoned the story elements in the setting intended for him. Caleb’s plot drives the story for a lot longer || c2

light meadow
karmic bear
# karmic bear
poll_question_text

What’s the best complete main critical role campaign

victor_answer_votes

6

total_votes

14

karmic bear
# karmic bear
poll_question_text

Did you vote the same in both polls?

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

13

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

No

rapid sleet
#

I really hope we get a few legit character deaths in c4

compact marsh
low gorge
#

c2 ||canNOT relate, my DM gives me a background hook and i'm UNSTOPPABLE||

compact marsh
#

C2 ||also start of c2 was a lot of three way arguments between Beau, Caleb and Molly iirc||

rapid sleet
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|| weren’t they separate groups in the same area/tavern that kinda stumbled into each other ||

lilac agate
#

I will say C4 hooked me right away

#

Every character I am excited to see more of

#

Which is crazy with 13 characters

rapid sleet
#

I just want some of them to die

low gorge
#

c4 ||you know, i was saying this in another server, but i am SO appreciative of the set-up of a funeral (and one the characters were all hoping they wouldn't attend) as a stage to introduce ALL the characters. with a character like thjazi evidently was, it gave so many reasons and opportunities for all these characters to be interacting, and not only that, but for something immediately comprehensible for them to be interacting ABOUT. it was honestly so rich with character dynamics, in pairs and in groups. it oriented us very quickly to the political elements of the story and where these characters fall on that board. it sets up a clear mystery/story thread to follow up on next, like it feels like we're suddenly MIDDLE OF THE ACTION. really really well done, just conceptually. brennan's mind... other cr campaigns don't even touch it ||

rapid sleet
#

As a treat

rapid sleet
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Will say, too many names. They need to have more of them on screen

lilac agate
#

||Tal made me laugh||

#

||also idk if I’ve said but it was so refreshing for Laura’s pixie to not be a joke character||

low gorge
rapid sleet
#

I had to go look up the transcript

#

Which it’s nice that it was done already

low gorge
#

i do need to be able to read them to remember them and thank goodness, on the youtube at least, they had gone through and fixed it up nice, and all the proper nouns and names were sorted out

lilac agate
#

I do think the character I’m most excited to see more of is ||Matt’s|| but damn I can’t wait for everyone

low gorge
#

that's SO funny, i'm the opposite

lilac agate
#

LOL

rapid sleet
#

Yeah twitch has no subtitles or I couldn’t find them

low gorge
#

i went to youtube for a reason and by god, even though they don't let me properly pause a premiere, at least they have good captions

#

c4 ||i was loving everyone except julien. and then later vaelus. i'm nnnnot the biggest fan of (at least this specific subtype of) jerks||

#

||like not even in a "love to hate you" kinda way, i'm just... man i hope you become bearable soooooon||

lilac agate
rapid sleet
#

|| look we could use some good death fodder ||

lilac agate
rapid sleet
#

|| I wonder how marisha is gonna do with an ac of 9 lol||

low gorge
#

c4 ||the people who die aren't going to be the ones i'm good with seeing less of LUL i just bet you||

rapid sleet
#

|| I do like that there is some legit conflict brewing hopefully between the players ||

lilac agate
#

C4 ||I generally love mean / evil characters because it just is fun for me but I get not liking them ||

lilac agate
low gorge
#

c4 ||yeah i hope it plays out in an interesting way at the table. they're good enough they could provoke some REAL feelings from me lol||

lilac agate
#

I will say Brennan is a ā€œpush the big red button I dare youā€ dm and that’s my favorite kind of storytelling

#

Embrace the chaos

rapid sleet
#

|| I also feel… excited about the show again. Like I enjoyed all the newer cast members a lot ||

#

Also I really want to see some class struggle okay

#

Give me my messy || post revolution, post subsequent civil war mess||

lilac agate
rare fable
#

Rangers rise up

thorn prawn
#

Ranger best class

compact marsh
compact marsh
#

C4 ||matt’s character is so down bad for thjazi’s widow||

#

C4 ||thjazi’s widow being super polite and everyone freaking out was hilarious||

compact marsh
#

šŸ” anglophile-rin

Okay, Critters. There's a lot to absorb from last night's premier of Campaign 4, but one thing I know is on everyone's mind is this lying liar who lies:...

deramin2

I adore this theory. Wasn't aware of this class at all and this fits so we'll with the stats, spells, and themes Sam didn't get to finish exploring with Braius.

I don't think they're dealing with Asmodeus specifically because they're dealing with demons and not devils (opposing factions in D&D). I'm guessing the Asmodeus-like God was one of those killed, and a demon lord is filling in the power vacuum. But Architect of Ruin feels spot on with some reflavoring.

I also think that Wicander fully believes he's a cleric and both he and at least most of his family are entirely unaware that they're not the ones in control of this situation.

This whole family has a very Righteous Gemstones vibe that I'm very excited to see play out.

-# #critical role #critical role spoilers #critical role meta #critical role campaign 4 #wicander halovar #sam riegel

#

Anyways I’m very interested in wickander, which I was not expecting to be

livid geode
low gorge
lilac agate
#

CR4 || so I like the idea of the Illrigger but it’s not an official class. Which brings up an interesting point that homebrewing of an entire class is a possibility I suppose.
Sorcerer seems likely because of the hit points, but I like the idea of Wick’s family being pacted to a Demon who inherited the power vacuum. In particular, I think the ā€œlight grows stronger with death as we return to itā€ might mean the payment for the pact is souls of the dead, which are used to empower the ā€œLightā€ ||

compact marsh
#

||also the light thing immediately brings to mind Lucifer, who appears as an angel of light||

lilac agate
compact marsh
#

I’ll find and upvote it

lilac agate
#

It’s why I’m team ||Sam is a Warlock, but he is probably a Sorcerer because of the HP lmao||

#

|| Notably, the Illrigger is also the first new class to appear in the updated 2024 DnD 5e rules, but is unusual in that while the class is ā€œofficial,ā€ it is not created by Wizards of the Coast. Rather, the Illrigger has been developed by MCDM, the third-party publisher responsible for titles like Flee, Mortals and the Draw Steel system. The Illrigger is only available for purchase via the MCDM website or on D&D Beyond.||

lilac agate
rapid sleet
#

This is wonderful news

#

Revolutions one shot when

compact marsh
#

This is the revolutions playthrough

#

Julien a la guillotine!!!

rapid sleet
#

Tyranny would be humming le Marseilles

lilac agate
tulip mountain
thorn prawn
#

||My prediction for the tables

Soldier: Marisa, Matt, Luis, Abria

Seeker: Alexander, Robbie, Ashley, one of the warlocks

Intrigue : sam, Liam, Laura, the other warlock, Travis|| C4 predictions

compact marsh
#

C4 ||is Julien cursed for spitting on the body or is something else?||

rapid sleet
upbeat forge
#

(My understanding of it is loose in the first place)

thorn prawn
#

||though they are using third party material outside their own stuff so who knows || c4

compact marsh
#

Okay I finished the first episode

#

Pretty peak honestly

#

Final tables predictions is
||soldiers: thimble, azune, kattigat, octis
seekers: halandil, vaelus, murray, bolaire
schemers: thaisha, julien, wick, tyranny, teor||

thorn prawn
#

you put octis twice

compact marsh
#

I meant wick lol

compact marsh
thorn prawn
#

||I think the only one who is locked to a table is Vaelus and the seeker table || C4

tulip mountain
#

C4 ||teor in Schemers is interesting||

compact marsh
#

C4 ||I assume the NPC approaching Wick with Teor’s resume was a deliberate attempt to get Teor over with Wick||

#

||whether for lore reasons or to just balance the tables||

tulip mountain
#

C4 ||Bolaire is a curator of a museum of weird magic things if they ain't a Seeker that will be really surprising||

#

C4 ||besides being played by Taliesin lmao||

#

C4 ||though with the party stuff I could see a schemer angle||

compact marsh
#

C4 ||i assume both the elves will be seekers||

thorn prawn
compact marsh
#

||the breakdown will probably be:
soldiers: who betrayed Thjazi
seekers: what is the stone
schemers: what’s going on with Sam’s house||

tulip mountain
#

C4 ||I think Octis is on schemers tbh||

thorn prawn
#

||either way i start with the assumption one paladin per table ||C4

compact marsh
thorn prawn
compact marsh
#

||its possible Hal and Thimble switch though, I could see that||

rapid sleet
compact marsh
#

||the first and last are connected though because whoever switched the glyphs also seems to have taken the stone||

thorn prawn
#

||My big question i don't think we can answer yet are do they have to keep Sam and Whitney together I could easily see her being broken off after the first 4 ||

compact marsh
#

||they have an interesting dynamic so i think they’ll be together||

rapid sleet
#

|| I still think Travis is doing combat ||

compact marsh
rapid sleet
#

||oh cause of the hiring thing right ||

compact marsh
#

||brennan had an NPC explicitly tell Sam to hire Travis’ character||

#

||yeah LOL||

#

C4 ||travis also does have a hook with soldiers because of his brother though||

rapid sleet
#

|| and his and Luis’s characters seem to be like combat bros ||

compact marsh
rapid sleet
#

|| low key I want to see Marisha and her 9 AC do combat lol||

rapid sleet
#

|| also,good god everybody’s stats are cracked ||

compact marsh
thorn prawn
#

||I think theres a a couple Core Groups Fang Soldier group: (Alexander, Luis, Travis, Laura), Those connected to the Politics ( sam, Matt , Abria, Taliesin, Liam ) and the outsiders ( Robby, Ashley, and Whitney). And they will not keep everyone together and in fact will split one of each of these spheres of influence amoung the party so that each party has someone cares about something that affects the others. ||C4

rapid sleet
thorn prawn
rapid sleet
#

|| yeah but it would be funny if she kept it low because in world she was like yeah I gotta show the girls off ||

compact marsh
#

||because Alex, Robbie and Whitney are all new, Ashley has historically struggled a lot with both mechanics and roleplay, and Taliesin is Taliesin||

thorn prawn
#

I don't think they think like that bout each other tbh

rapid sleet
#

|| low key want to see Tal do the schemers||

thorn prawn
#

||The more i think the more I suspect it will be Tal in Seekers which means at minimum 2 CR members at each table || c4

rapid sleet
#

||laura could be a seeker Ngl ||

#

Have they commented on how they’re going to structure episodes post ||episode 4?||

compact marsh
#

A few weeks of one table and then another

#

I feel like the format could be awkward if the tables end up almost intersecting

rapid sleet
#

Oh that’s going to be….. something.

compact marsh
#

But I guess the pre filming means that they can get people to come in if needed

rapid sleet
#

I think giving people a reason to skip is certainly a choice

light meadow
rapid sleet
#

Mini arcs is probs better than rotating episodes but yeah

tulip mountain
#

C4 ||I think the schemers 'msq' will be house intrigue, possibly relating to the widow||

#

I wonder how much West Marches it's going to be

#

like it could be interesting if the main format is like a downtime episode or half episode or ten minutes at the 'home base' before they decide on what groups are doing what

#

and then they go, do those things and come back to the main base then there's another downtime and repeat

compact marsh
tulip mountain
#

C4 ||I think it'll have something to do with her losing power (that they had because of the family's fey connections I guess? Unless the sundered houses are actually from the Fey which would be very interesting) and trying to regain/maintain power||

#

||which will tie in with the Seekers investigation of why the door to Fae closed or something like that||

#

||plus general noble house politicking||

karmic bear
# karmic bear
poll_question_text

What’s the best party of a Critical Role main campaign?

victor_answer_votes

9

total_votes

13

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Mighty Nien

lilac agate
rapid sleet
#

C4 || lol made the mistake of going to reddit and bruh they’re so exhausting||

rare fable
#

Considering the majority of posts since C4 release have been spoiler tagged it might be time to make a CR channel or thread?

compact marsh
rapid sleet
vernal oxide
#

CR c4 e1 ||FIRST ROLL OF THE GAME IS A NAT 20 PPFFTHHHAHAHAHA||

vernal oxide
rapid sleet
peak cedar
#

i mean, CR hasn't been CR since C2 to some people shrug

#

also, I just finally got around to watching this, Im about 1h in and || Travis, my man, wtf is up with all these odd stats 😭 ||

rapid sleet
#

Let’s just be clear CR hasn’t been the same since Orion left. Who could miss that internal conflict and dislike

rapid sleet
#

And I’m excited for the next episode

vernal oxide
#

I'm half way through episode 1 rn ||and it's a HEAVY session, emotional-RP wise. Crazy to start a campaign with a funeral, ngl||

#

||Love it, to be clear. But Brennan is a madlad||

rare fable
#

Tbh I was surprised when I learned Critical Roll wasn't a Geek and Sundry larp anymore

light meadow
#

They've been separate from G&S for a very long time

#

They were G&S' biggest breadwinner by a large margin for a long time and it gave them the leverage to buy themselves out

summer perch
#

Wait today is Thursday again...

light meadow
#

It do yet be Thursday

rapid sleet
#

Argh

sleek sluice
#

That went fast

lilac agate
livid geode
#

Too bad I am VODSquad now and have to wait for Monday...

low gorge
#

same boat as me

summer perch
#

Jet Lag on Wednesday into CR the next day? I am eating good now.

low gorge
#

even if i was tempted tonight, i have a Thing to go to

livid geode
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Im not a college student any more I cant do the 2 AM nights!

rapid sleet
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I don’t do twitch really so just threw my prime sub on it

light meadow
summer perch
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You can't watch the youtube vod?

livid geode
summer perch
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Booooo

dense mulch
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Oh right the podcast version is up now

thorn prawn
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I mean the wait is barely an issue it coming out on Monday vs Thursday is not a big deal

livid geode
low gorge
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............. i could be watching on my living room tv šŸ’€ oh

summer perch
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For cr3 I just use youtube Playlist, but I wonder if listening through YouTube music would be better.

low gorge
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it didn't occur to me that's a thing i could do for some reason until weiry said it

peak cedar
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in the meatime Im over here "watching" on my phone LUL

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I only really have time to listen to CR when Im doing brainless chores, like uh, dishes (which I gotta go do in a bit)

rapid sleet
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Hmmmmm football or watching live

summer perch
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Popping popcorn

lilac agate
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CR4 E2 ||Brennan chillllll||

rapid sleet
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Wait what happened

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I’m not used to them starting on time

summer perch
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||seems to be a flashback||

rapid sleet
lilac agate
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|| oh that’s new||

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||to the Falconer’s Rebellion probs||

rapid sleet
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||yeah I caught them saying Luis was 15||

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|| which I think is what they said last week ||

lilac agate
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||dwarves are just Kentucky now lol||

rapid sleet
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My adhd ass is not used to not having the ability to rewind lol

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I’m out of practice

summer perch
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Yeah didn't twitch add a rewind feature?

rapid sleet
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I think I have to go the vod in progress

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||luck point šŸ‘€||

summer perch
rapid sleet
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|| I wonder if this is like a session 0 footage||

rapid sleet
summer perch
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It's funny playing a game with a lot of the CR cast to then go watching CR. LUL

thorn prawn
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||humans get an extra origin feat and an inspirtation on a long rest to be precise ||

rapid sleet
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||inspiration is better than a luck point and lucky is a lv 1 feat ||

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||technically you can use inspiration to reroll your hitdie if you roll low ||

summer perch
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You probably could tell it's merch time by the pitch in the audio recording.

lilac agate
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CR is totally scripted guys LUL

rapid sleet
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Look I think it’s clear that Matt doesn’t age

lilac agate
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@rapid sleet done

rapid sleet
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Because it’s been 4 years since I’ve seen these people

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And Matt looks the same

thorn prawn
rapid sleet
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These are new outfits

summer perch
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Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if they had a makeup person.

thorn prawn
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I'm fairly confident they do

rapid sleet
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||hhahahahhahahahahaha||

lilac agate
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Good start

rapid sleet
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|| Marisha is me lol||

summer perch
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||Bottom camera is a vibe. LUL ||

karmic bear
lilac agate
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Oh no

summer perch
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CR4 ||bahahahhaa I love button pushers||

rapid sleet
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Liam put your iPad on dark mode please

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||hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha||

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CR4 E2 ||this is chaos ||

rapid sleet
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||I support Aabria touching things because literally same||

summer perch
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|| love the way Brennan set out the DC for that arcana check||

summer perch
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Oh BTW it looks like Dungeon World 2 got another update in it's alpha, I haven't taken a look at it though.

rapid sleet
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||this has big city of stairs vibes||

lilac agate
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CR4 E2 ||permadeath permadeath permadeath!!!!!!||

summer perch
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Cr4 epi 2 ||I am working on it. šŸ‘· ||

rapid sleet
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||Jesus Marisha lol||

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||Marisha laughing lmao||

rapid sleet
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|| And gambling her left tit!||

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C4 E2 ||Matt lmao||

rapid sleet
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|| I’m having fun with Tal rn ||

summer perch
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C4 e2 ||No touchy? wwhw ||

summer perch
rapid sleet
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Does Liam have a fidget light

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I want a fidget light

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CR4 E2 ||Laura sitting next to Liam wwhw ||

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||I love when they sit together ||

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|| post revolution civil unrest! Give me my Revolutions podcast campaign!!!!!||

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|| just realized ash is a paladin lol|| e2

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Cr4 epi 2 ||Insight the insight argent ||

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||protection of the fae hmmmmmm|| e2

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|| see none of this would happen if you could just bring people back to life.

-# hehehehhehe I want some deaths soon|| e2

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|| BETRAYAL šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€|| e2

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||What if it’s a false flag šŸ‘€||

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|| touch it! Touch it! ||

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CR4 ep 2 ||I am getting slight Firefly brown coat vibes.||

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|| YES BRENNAN YES||

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|| REVOLUTIONARY MESS||

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I love it

summer perch
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||Here me out, the traitor is in the room right now. ph34r ||

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E2 || Ash and Laura sniping at each other guess they’re too aggressive better get them off the show ||

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E2 ||Ashley and Laura have such good chemistry haha ||

summer perch
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Cr4e2 ||I love snappy Ashley.||

rapid sleet
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-# I’m making fun of Reddit

lilac agate
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||enemies to lovers šŸ‘€ šŸ‘€ šŸ‘€ ||

rapid sleet
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CR4 E2 || ā€œI have free will!ā€
ā€œYou do?ā€
😭 😭 😭 ||

summer perch
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Cr4 e2 ||What, she took the stone?||

rapid sleet
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|| punt the fox Ash!||

lilac agate
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||uh oh||

summer perch
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I was busy taunting cosmic over the falcons || what banner is this? That trav is being given???||

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Cr4 ep2 ||Just like me, no one takes my cookies. ShallanOhNo ||

rapid sleet
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||I kinda love the table swapping ||

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|| cruelty is a whole mess lol||

summer perch
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||So why is she questioning his faith? 🤨

What does she know?||

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C4 e2 || huh so the family made a pact with demons right? Like that’s what’s going on here ||

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C4 E2 ||it seems like Tyranny is supposed to be manipulating Wick for the Demon King or smth but likes Wick too much to do that||

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|| I love the chaos sisters ||

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E2 ||this adds a lot of complexity to Tyranny that she knows it’s all fake||

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||Is she like his manager? LUL ||

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|| more like spying him||

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|| Sam is back: Always remember to POO||

summer perch
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||Travis' face LUL ||

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||White liquid? Good thing Laura isn't here.||

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Cr4 ep2 ||I love Wic and Tyranny's chemistry||

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E2 || so did the demons tell Sam’s family to kill the Aussie fang (yes this is just how I hear it lol)||

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||Trav playing a high charisma character again we’re so back|| e2

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E2 ||So was the torn banner for or against the gods?||

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|| post revolution conflict. It was the rebellion 12 years ago||

summer perch
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||It's time šŸ‘€ ||

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šŸ‘€

summer perch
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|| no there was the revolution against the gods 70 years ago. Then 12 years ago there was a rebellion that failed against the rulers of the post revolutionary society ||

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|| and apparently Sam’s ancestors were the priests in the pre revolution society and rose up and killed the gods šŸ‘€ ||

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|| hahahahhahah yes I love this subplot schemers is gonna be fire (Rewatching the convo right before break) || e2

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Cr4e2 ||Teor, Wic and Tyranny is make favorite group rn. ||

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šŸ„“

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CR4 E2 ||Grammy’s gonna die||

summer perch
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CR4E2 ||I missed that about the stone right after the break. What was that?||

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E2 || OPEN THE BOX MARISHA ||

rapid sleet
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|| BLACK BOX šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€||

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||Marisha W||

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|| Marisha I’m so glad you’re here to be the chaos gremlin||

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|| hahahahhahaa dead god location impact real world!!!||

summer perch
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||A goddess name šŸ‘€ ||

rapid sleet
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|| oh so another relic of a celestial of a god related to guiding through the after life || e2

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|| along with the stone from last week||

summer perch
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Cr4e2||When we gonna find a coffin to one of the gods?||

rapid sleet
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||hell yes I love chaos ||

summer perch
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||Wait so it's empty?||

rapid sleet
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||hahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaha||

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We’re so back y’all

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|| not the puppies||

summer perch
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||🐶 ||

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|| low key I love Marisha and Tal’s characters rn || e2

summer perch
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||A job? wha

D&d characters don't have those!||

rare fable
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I prefer to DM for PCs who have jobs tbh. Having a role outside of combat is so useful for writing hooks to engage a player.

rapid sleet
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C4 e2 || So Matt’s a fail son||

summer perch
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|| cackles in Revolutions at a pseudo national guard like organization || e2

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Episode 2 || oh so this is a power grab against the guard by the lords ||

summer perch
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Cr4e2 ||Marisha is great||

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|| CLASS STRUGGLE CLASS STRUGGLE CLASS STRUGGLE|| e2

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CR4 E2 || Occtis is going through the wringer this episode ngl||

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||everyone is out to get him LUL like damn Brennan. And then ā€œhe’s never had sexā€ bahahaha ||

summer perch
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Cr4e2 ||Gimme that Wic scene Brennan. šŸ™ ||

rapid sleet
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||This episode is looooong ||

summer perch
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||It's time? šŸ‘€||

rapid sleet
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I’ll have to check it out in the morning

summer perch
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Nooo we lost one!

lilac agate
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C4 E2 || hahahahah||

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||I am so glad we got to see what was up with Wick||

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||FREAKY. I cannot wait for the fanart. ||

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The vibe was immaculate

summer perch
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Cr4e2 ending ||I thought it was gonna be a god.||

lilac agate
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On a note not about gestures (C4E2) || I am so glad Hal is actual much more social when not in the midst of grief and it was Liam’s acting because this means we have a lot to get out of him going forward and he and Thaisha have such a fun vibe ||

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||also I ship it for Shadia and Occtis||

lilac agate
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CR4E2 ||last thing before I go to sleep: lmao at everyone laughing at Sam from off camera as the episode ended||

summer perch
lilac agate
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I will say: easily one of the best CR episodes ever for me

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10/10

summer perch
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It was good, but a lot of setup.

compact marsh
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C4e2 ||what was brennan’s plan if they died in the flashback šŸ’€ ||

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C4e2 ||did kattigat ever stabilize lol||

compact marsh
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C4e2 ||not everyone ragging on thaisha for touching a misty mask 😭 ||

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||even the NPCs are bullying her 😭 ||

compact marsh
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C4e2 ||I wonder if one of the tables will be the evil party||

lilac agate
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C4E2 ||what a wild ride||

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Full episode up to last moments reaction ||Morning after reaction:
Brennan has zero chill, absolutely zero. Rn, standout characters are Occtis, Bolaire, Murray, Tyranny, and Wick.
There was just so much to unpack. We’ve got Murray’s college stuff (Which Marisha realizing the focus was shifting to her and yelling ā€œno! No! No!ā€ Because she just knew Brennan was coming for her LUL ). Thimble entering initiative. Laura’s been going through it these two episodes LMAO.
Occtis is the subject of several manhunts and everyone is gunning for him. He also got outed as a virgin. Here’s seeing if he and Shadia can get down to business lol.
And then the Evangelion- eldritch monstrosity in the basement. I wonder if the ā€œpaintā€ is Celestial blood. We’ve got a Celestial casket holding the remains of the Halfling god’s archangel, a stone made from the corpse of the elf god, and Wick’s gramps. ||
Uuuuuggggghhhh I can’t wait for more

lilac agate
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From a technical perspective of Brennan’s dming ||it is so impressive that he is so skilled at moving between 13 people and involving everyone over the course of the episode. ||

thin spindle
rapid sleet
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C4e2 end || huh||

summer perch
hazy forge
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C4E2 about 2h40 in ||I love the dynamic between Murray and Bolaire lmao||

thorn prawn
dense mulch
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Oh wow the first episode is only 2 hours

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Oh I see it's because its only part one on podcast services and the other half will release Tuesday

peak cedar
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Just finished ep1 during lunch today

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good stuff

dense mulch
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I might have to sub to Beacon for no ads

peak cedar
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but the ad is the best part (specially in ep 1)

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-# i know thats not what you meant

dense mulch
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Yeah no Sam's ads are great

dense mulch
compact marsh
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C4e2 ||NOT AABRIA CASTING SPEAK WITH ANIMALS ON ROBBIE’S PET||

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I respect that Aabria is just a ā€œI wanna poke thisā€ kinda player

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||LMAO SHE WASTED HER SPELL SLOT ON NOTHING||

dense mulch
compact marsh
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@rapid sleet c2e4 ||the revolutionary council reminds me of the kerenkyist faction/ provisional government in the Russian Revolution||

rapid sleet
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Hold on I gotta go find my post from last night

rapid sleet
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Also idk how far you are in the episode but I made another revolutions comp!

compact marsh
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Also Laura’s roleplay is on point

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I love thimble rn

rapid sleet
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She’s so good

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Also I kinda like everybody’s characters which is uh… different

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Like I’m more interested in all of them than I was in any of the C3 characters

thorn prawn
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yeah i do think part of that for me is being in a new setting makes it so any backstory any of them has expands the entire setting so im more invested in any of them as that gives me more even independant of liking them individualls

compact marsh
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I’m really invested in Thjazi’s soldier buddies

summer perch
rapid sleet
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C3/C4 general || I feel like it’s a more… serious???? Setting too. And the characters all match that I guess. That’s not to say it’s not funny. It’s just like we don’t have knock off ted lasso ||

tulip mountain
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beacon watchers, is the cooldown thingy worth watching?

thorn prawn
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||Idk if its more serious setting wise but the way the characters interact with the setting is. Everyone is kinda playing a Caleb to some extent here || Critical rol general/C4/C2

rapid sleet
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C4 general || I think instantly having actual direction and momentum this campaign helps too ||

summer perch
rapid sleet
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Oh did they

thorn prawn
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yeah

compact marsh
rapid sleet
lilac agate
rapid sleet
lilac agate
lilac agate
compact marsh
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There’s also a beacon free trial for a month with the code ā€œovertureā€

rapid sleet
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I understand why they’re putting it behind a paywall but uh… c4 || Brennan actually giving a basic rundown of some of the world history + actually explaining what happened in the episode ||is the type of thing you probs want the audience having access to

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But hey you gotta put something behind the paywall on your single use streaming service

tulip mountain
rapid sleet
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This was my other revolutions comp

low gorge
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there's a background video??? ok I might get beacon for just like a month

lilac agate
low gorge
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oh ok

lilac agate
#

Have you ever wondered what happens at the Critical Role table immediately after the game master says ā€œIs it Thursday yet?ā€Ā 
To celebrate our Campaign 4 premiere, we wanted to share the first episode ofĀ Critical Role Cooldown to give everyone a backstage pass to all the theories, questions, and even unrevealed lore the cast shares after th...

ā–¶ Play video
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It says Beacon Exclusive so idk if it’s accessible

thorn prawn
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it is its a teaser basically they put the episode 1 up to convince you to get beacon to get the episode 2 one

lilac agate
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Ah!

light meadow
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To be fair Matt has also historically dropped lore in Cool Downs

light meadow
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DId finally finish this week's CR

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I think for once Brennan gets a pass for forgetting to "is it Thursday yet"

velvet ingot
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I'm... getting close to the end of episode 1 finally šŸ˜…

low gorge
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i gained some willpower since yesterday, i think i can wait for the ep on monday now

jade tide
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for the falconer’s rebellion. not a lyre, but a lute. hope i did hal and hero proud.

on fields that still remember us
on feet that carry by
the promise passed from hand to hand
beneath an empty sky

our voices freed then bound anew
will learn again to sing
and fill the wind to bear us high
beneath our broken wing

our talons stained with bloo...

ā–¶ Play video
shell cargo
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hes the best

summer perch
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I played Fate today and...rolled really well? Can't stop me. šŸ˜Ž

lilac agate
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I just ran Alone Against the Flames (Call of Cthulhu) and it was fun!

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It’s a solo module

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So it’s essentially a Choose Your Own Adventure module

shell cargo
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Nice! I’ve always wanted to play Call of Cthulhu

gritty crane
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Call of Cthulhu is a big favorite 😌

lilac agate
tulip mountain
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which version of CoC?

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d100?

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C4E2 ||y'know, it'd be pretty interesting to see what would happen if one of the characters was to die in the flashback sequence lmao||

karmic bear
thin spindle
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Kobold: Eat feet, beat meat, cheat

vernal oxide
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CR C4 E1 break point ||"I told you, make backup characters!" Jesus christ brennan...ok yeah this is gonna be a WILD game lol||

compact marsh
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C4e2 ||julien and his dad are SO funny||

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||Julien’s dad wanting to backhand his son but then cooling down by the time he gets the gauntlet off 😭 ||

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C4 e2 ||okay I definitely think that one of the parties will be going to the pass||

lilac agate
vernal oxide
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C4 E1 about 3:50 ||Holy [BLEEEEEEPPPP] Matt's character is a jack[BLEEP]. I frickin love it||

compact marsh
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Episode 2 is pretty slow

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Also I do not want to ||listen to talk about a college 😭 ||

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||mention of grad students||

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šŸ’€ šŸ’€ šŸ’€ šŸ’€ šŸ’€ šŸ’€

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I’m so triggered rn

lilac agate
vernal oxide
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C4 E1 4:00 ||"I hate you...with every fiber of my being" oh this campaign is gonna be special innit||

wheat moat
#

Today on Invisible Sun:

summer perch
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summer perch
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cr4 ep 2 is out btw

vernal oxide
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Finished episode 1: ||BRENNAN YOU SICK--grumble grumble. Yes yes ik ep 2 is out, let me grumble||

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||Also, WILD to me that there wasn't a single combat the entire session. But, they also cycled out players so frequently, and with so many and the context of a funeral I see why they wanted instead focus on character interaction||

low gorge
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EP 1 ||god, combat in the first episode would have been such a bad idea||

compact marsh
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I am kinda antsy for combat though

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God I hope they fight something in e2

safe smelt
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it will be ooc fighting

tulip mountain
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okay but hear me out

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entire campaign not a single combat

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that would be so funny

compact marsh
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Naru

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I will kill myself

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Also it doesn’t feel like these characters are lvl 3 lol

thorn prawn
vernal oxide
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Episode 2: ||That is one of the phrases of all time||

vernal oxide
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Ep 2 ||Brennan really did teach everyone a lesson about touching strange, clearly magical artifacts. I feel like this happens every campaign though lol||

thin spindle
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oh hey it's (Stormlight) ||Renarin||

compact marsh
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C4 ||new party comp prediction
Seekers: Murray, Bolaire, Vaelus, Thaisha, and Hal (the ā€œrespectableā€ people)
Soldiers: Thimble, Azune, Octis, Kat
Schemers: Teor, Wick, Tyranny, Julien||

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||it definitely seems like there’s a moment where they deliberately split Thaisha and Hal off from Thimble, Octis and Kat as they go off to find Murray/ Bolaire and find the Crow Keepers respectively||

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C4 ||THEY ROLE INITIATIVE AND THEN THE SESSION ENDS||

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||I WANT COMBAT||

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||also I’m pretty sure Azune was supposed to be with them when they went to find the crow keepers… but I guess they forgor||

compact marsh
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||soldiers will probably be dealing with the loose Celestial, seekers with the Stone, and schemers with whatever is going on in the city||

lilac agate
compact marsh
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Yeah there’s some shuffling to be had

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||occtis seems to be running away from his family though||

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||also holy crap angel torture??????!!!???||

lilac agate
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||I agree but Wick also has conflict with his family and Julien is actively looking for him||

lilac agate
compact marsh
lilac agate
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Did you finish the episode?

compact marsh
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Yes

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Little slow in the middle but good episode

lilac agate
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||because gramps is the angel||

compact marsh
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I know 😭

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||that does not seem like a healthy and consensual relationship 😭 ||

lilac agate
lilac agate
compact marsh
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Yeah he had a lot to cram in

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Okay here’s my character tier list

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||Liam is kinda low because im annoyed at him constantly roleplaying with NPCs and Whitney is low because i find her annoying||

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C4 + Calamity ||Brennan is just so good at the deity storytelling like that Paradise Lost vibe of Calamity and here, the brutal and gritty way the celestials are depicted and the way the gods are treated in lore is so interesting. I adore the way he does the angelic/godlike character depictions. It ties into his ambience building. ||

lilac agate
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compact marsh
lilac agate
compact marsh
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Brennans world building is incredible

lilac agate
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My tier list

lilac agate
compact marsh
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Definitely pleasantly surprised by how much I like Sam’s character

compact marsh
compact marsh
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Sam using his roleplay talents for good for once (a character not designed to give me an aneurysm)

lilac agate
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My fav rn is ||Occtis||

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Which probably isn’t surprising lol

lilac agate
compact marsh
compact marsh
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He’s just a lil guy

lilac agate
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He’s smol (in presence)

thorn prawn
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my tierlist C4

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pretty much everyone is goood tho

lilac agate
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I think my only issue rn is ||Hal needs screen time when he’s not in grief so we can see what his character is actually like ||