#Books (General)

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ivory cypress
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i have lots of downloaded books but i also don't consider this a problem

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they're ready to go whenever i feel it's time

wraith lynx
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Fifth Season 22 ||I was surprised at myself that I didn't cry over Coru. But I knew it was coming tbh... enslaved Africans often jumped off of slave ships to die free over living in enslavement. This reminded me of that.||

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5/5 book.

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Hey theres an excerpt of Hundred Thousand Kingdoms in the back!

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But I think thats... my favorite book, ever. Never have I read something that spoke to me so profoundly

low hill
brazen pilot
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Can't blame you

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Fifth Season is just that good

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Fifth Season all ||By the way, have you heard of the moon?||

wraith lynx
# brazen pilot Dethroned Eragon?

I think so. Eragon will always have a special place in my heart, and it inspired me to he a writer but this... it was so real and raw and hit home in every way I could have imagined.

wraith lynx
wraith lynx
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Im tempted to start book 2 now but ill wait until tommrow 🫣

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But man

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If Mr Chris released murtagh 2 right now I dont think even that would top this

vagrant torrent
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The amount of series I have to read after Stormlight boggles my mind 😵‍💫

wraith lynx
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yes yes yes yes yes yes whenever you get the chance it is a MUST read!!

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I can only imagine how the rest of the series will make you feel 🙂‍↕️

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The feeling of a book 1 hitting you in the heart like no other is iconic

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@wraith lynx Sooo what are your favorite books apart from Fifth Season? 👀

wraith lynx
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Oh im glad you asked!

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  • The Red Rising Saga
  • Will of The Many and Strengeth of The Few
  • Any book from the World of Eragon
  • Stormlight, of course 🤣
  • MB era 1 is really cool too
  • Folk of The Air Triolgy was great!
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analog geode
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They've netted another

snow vessel
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Gooood gooood

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I’m a rookie when it comes to reading 🤣 The amount of books I’ve finished is tiny 😭

My favorites are MB Era 1 (especially Hero of Ages) and Watchmen

vagrant torrent
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Also this thing

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Eventually I might be the only person here to do a complete readthrough of Animorphs

rugged tartan
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I bought Will of the Many from my local used bookstore a bit ago and sadly I have so fsr done nothing with it except use it to raise my wristrest so I can play Cyberpunk 2077 a bit more comfortably

wraith lynx
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Obelisk Gate 1 ||NASSUN?? wwhw||

lusty meteor
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So much for restraint

wraith lynx
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I ONLY WENT TO PAGE 1 DX just to check!! I can wait

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buzzes

alpine drum
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ASOIAF ||The ghost of Aegon the Conquerer talking to Maekar ||

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Ohhh so Folk of the Air is YA

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I have been meaning to put more YA on my TBR

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Though most of them are series people have nostalgia for from childhood 😅

snow vessel
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Folk of the air is veery good

tight kindle
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I'm finally starting The Spear Cuts Through Water and man.
The way this story is being told is fascinating.

snow vessel
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I've seen a few people online doing lists of 26 books they want to read in 2026. Might put one together myself

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I just added The Wheel of Time and 16 Malazan books to my kindle 😂

small bloom
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February wrap up, also read most of Tailored Realities but not technically finished since I didn’t read Mitosis

snow vessel
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So not just the main series?

small bloom
snow vessel
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my february

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not seen is that I spent like half of the month on Reaper's Gale and havent finished it yetLUL

vagrant torrent
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I don’t have a february wrap up 😔

oblique zodiac
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😔

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no books this month

minor sleet
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You can see the dip from my birthday weekend

low hill
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  • February: Godkiller, Hannah Kaner; Labyrinth's Heart M.A. Carrick; Ninth House, Leigh Bardugo; Grave Peril, Jim Butcher; Angelmaker, Nick Harkaway; Empire of the Dawn, Jay Kristoff.
long sorrel
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Without spoilers

low hill
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I'm still reading that one. :)

long sorrel
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Aaaah, I forget you do mark when you start not when you finish

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Unrelated this is kinda funny

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I must have read something in 2025 Feb that was particularly long?

low hill
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Ninth House was ... ||there was a lot that happened at the end that had no foreshadowing and I don't really see how/if you were supposed to work out what was going on. And the plot pivots quite quickly at that point to be about something else||. But it was enjoyable enough, and I now know enough about the world for whatever RPG my friend ends up running set in a similarish setting.
-# Actual spoiler thoughts were here: #1404497733108236318 message

long sorrel
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I see... I'm like, I like and dislike Leigh Bardugo all at once 🤔

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That doesn't sound very promising though

low hill
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Mmm.

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I'll probably read the sequel, but I'm not going to rush out and buy it.

long sorrel
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I should finish Rule of Wolves one of these days 😩

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I definetely won't read anything else by her until I'm done with that one

small bloom
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Rule of Wolves was one of my favorites in the Grishaverse

long sorrel
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Interesting

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I will read it, I just don't know when

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King of Scars was fine?

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I liked Six of Crows best of all I've read so far

snow vessel
low hill
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That's how I tend to do it.

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-# Unhelpfully in this case Empire of the Vampire is also the first book in the Empire of the Vampire series. :P

long sorrel
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I don't usually make the difference for series but because of it being the first book ant the series...

royal carbon
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Only 6 books for February

junior dew
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February was a much slower month for me than January

wraith lynx
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Oh right you sure did read fifth season too 😂

long sorrel
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did you finish Livesuit?

junior dew
junior dew
spring turtle
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god I love Babel

velvet umbra
tight kindle
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I had a good February

spring turtle
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Paladin's Strength 💖

tight kindle
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I struggled with that one honestly 😭

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I liked Hope much better

spring turtle
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but you gave it a 5.0

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wait I can't read

tight kindle
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I gave Strength like a 3.5

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My main complaint is that it could have been much, much shorter without losing almost anything

winter fern
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https://youtu.be/qQsezy3Eidw?si=UK18N5RzA4gPxwFX

Oh boy, this oughta be good. lol.

Shadow of the Conqueror is the infamous novel written by Shadiversity, a once well-respected sword youtuber turned grifter. His novel is an assortment of self-indulgent world-building, gratuitous violence, and unsurprising politics. It also has a lot of SA in it.

And I...read it all. God help me, I read all of it.
 
Thumbnail and Art by @thecr...

▶ Play video
frozen glacier
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One of these days if i find a copy of that book i don't need to buy in a way that would give him mney ill read it to see just how bad it is

raw musk
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It's bad. I DNF'd after a couple chapters

winter fern
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The fact that he actually managed to get Michael Kramer and Kate Reading to narrate it seriously boggles my mind.

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Seriously though I’m shocked lmfao

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alpine drum
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Political comments like these are not allowed

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junior dew
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Finished Livesuit.

Started There is No Antimemetics Division and after the first chapter I am convinced I’m going to vibe with this book so hard

analog geode
junior dew
ivory cypress
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Mask of Mirrors is about to reset my reading streak 😩 LUL 52% ||i was just way more impacted by Leato's death than i imagined i could or would be. this writing duo has some chops 🙏 but ouch||

royal carbon
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Yeah

ripe tide
ivory cypress
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only a couple bits here and there

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I'm on pause in protest LUL

long sorrel
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I just had one of those "huh I don't remember talking in this channel" "oh wait is Grey" moments LUL

royal carbon
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You don't look exactly the same, just really close.

minor sleet
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I wish she managed it. Imagine what she would’ve written if she had. And if she never wrote another word, 58 is still too young

analog geode
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You should read Bloodchild

minor sleet
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I should

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I just finished Fledgling, which has this as her author bio

royal carbon
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My coworker is reading through her books

minor sleet
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She’s one of the few author’s I’ve encountered who never had a miss

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Le Guin is another, and Tamora Pierce, although I think it’s easier to have all hits when you’re writing for children

analog geode
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I think Le Guin was physically incapable of writing a bad story

minor sleet
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She’s so prolific that perhaps if I get to her whole back catalogue. But so far, I’ve only encountered ones by her and that don’t resonate wit me

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Like The Left Hand of Darkness. I can tell it’s still a good novel, but I don’t need to imagine a world where people do not have gender or one in which they change gender. This a is truth I understand more profoundly than Le Guin ever could or did

lusty meteor
warm leaf
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Guys, I've seen an argument and the truth is that a doubt has been awakened in me ShallanBlush

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I've seen that a boy around 10 years old is reading a book by Sarah J Maas, but there are people who are outraged to read it at that age

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Do you think it's okay for someone to read those books with adult themes?

snow vessel
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Hmm... my initial is no for sjm specifically, but I think it depends on a lot of context and circumstance

warm leaf
snow vessel
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I remember I think bookborn did a video talking about ya and one of the things they mentioned was that "adult themes" are sometimes classed as such because of the lived experience needed to engage with them, and I think 10 is probably too young to have the understanding to engage with the adult themes of her work

somber timber
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The kid can read stuff and not understand it. They’ll be fine

lusty meteor
snow vessel
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But I think, for example, with maybe a parent or something who can help present it for them it could work

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Or if they're just a very mature kid

minor sleet
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My opinion is that telling the kid he can’t read it because there’s graphic sex in it is almost certainly going to make him more interested in the book

warm leaf
minor sleet
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That would’ve been my reaction anyway

lusty meteor
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So someone in a different community was upset bc someone on X posted a picture of a kid reading SJM?

warm leaf
somber timber
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When you read stuff that young if you don’t have the general concept of sex ed there’s just gonna be stuff you don’t understand and so you just move on

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It’s not gonna break their brains

warm leaf
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Hey, changing the subject, I'm about to finish reading the second book of WOT, and I don't know whether to buy the first 3 books of ASOIAF, or a case of the Red Dawn trilogy

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And I don't buy the next book of the Wheel because I already have the first 6

minor sleet
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Teen Titans pool party (from New Titans Titans #33, part one of the Judas Contract storyline)

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Wow! Blonde/red headed Jason Todd. I knew he was occasionally implied to be dying his hair black but I thought that was a post-resurrection ret con. Also normal response to seeing Starfire on your front doorstep

minor sleet
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Every single news update from the past two issues of this comic has ended like this. Is this what American cable news was like in the early 1980s?

minor sleet
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They should’ve used this gag in the cartoon

minor sleet
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Blatant copyright infringement from Marv Wolfman and Keith Pollard the layout artist and also from Changeling

junior dew
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Oh wow I really do not like that art style

light drum
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Operation Bounce House 34 ||This chapter was incredibly hilarious and had me giggling||

junior dew
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Antimemetics chapter 2 was also a banger

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Oh boy I may need to binge this book tomorrow before and after work 👀

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mortal wren
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Ya know I been waiting for a new book in the left handed book sellers of London series for ever. I should really check on Garth‘s progress

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Hey has anyone read Magic2.0 by Scott Meyer?

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If so please @ me

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ivory cypress
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well I still wasn't quite ready to get back to mask, so maybe a quick sojourn back in the Cadfael series will suit me - ah, Stephen v Maud, that old chestnut

light drum
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Operation Bounce House 53 ||"They tell the public its about terrorism but its about real-estate and money"||

spiral jungle
minor sleet
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And all that’s true, but it’s no longer how most people think about gender, even though who are not agender themself like me

spiral jungle
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agender hi five!

low hill
ripe tide
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I've been in such a reading slump for real books other than uni stuff since the Olympics. I took a break and I've been having a hard time picking anything new up....

rose meteor
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read watership down. or futuristic violence and fancy suits. or sixteen ways to defend a walled city, there's a book that sunk its teeth into my eyeballs

minor sleet
ripe tide
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And the other one that sounded maybe interesting wasn't at my librart

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This is an issue with not having my books from home where I can just pick up something for a reread easily

ripe tide
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Wow ok.... Dan Simmons died. Author of Hyperion. Not expecting that news.

mortal wren
long sorrel
# low hill Oh.

I don't want any spoilers but also want to know what this means LUL

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I guess I'll have to buckle down and read the 2 books

low hill
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I'll probably not remember...

long sorrel
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I wish I had liked book 1 more than I did but I also feel that I'll like book 2 more than 1 based on me hoping all the stuff I didn't like in book 1 is over

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Though I expect the narrative device of ragdolling you through plot threads is still going to be there

low hill
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But if I do, it's about something in the preamble to Part 5 that's sparked some thoughts.

long sorrel
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If I read the 2 books in 4 days will you still remember? lol

low hill
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Yeah, probably.

low hill
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goes back to reading

long sorrel
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This is very unlikely to happen but maybe I can give it a go

low hill
# low hill Oh.

I was right about this, and the bits before.
-# Finished the book. My players are later than expected for tonight's game...

cunning pivot
# spiral jungle I think this is one of these things where... The piece of context that is missin...

Le Guin also addressed the fact that she did poorly on the gender stuff in various interviews and in the updated afterword to the book I believe.

Her writing while always excellent and also evolved as she got further and further away from more traditional Boys/Men focused publishing practices.

You see this evolution in Earthsea too where the first was a boy's coming of age tale and the later books very much are not.

warm leaf
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I'm torn between two offers. I'm not sure whether to buy the first three ASOIAF books, which I haven't read yet and which have a limited edition with tinted edges, or buy the RR trilogy. What do you recommend?

raw musk
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RR. Either one could be good, but ASOIAF feels more like a gift for someone and not for someone trying it out

wraith lynx
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Red. Rising!!!! XD

forest sierra
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ASOIAF limited edition with tinted edges?

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What's that?

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Afaik neither the illustrated editions nor the Folio ones come with that

warm leaf
forest sierra
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Can you send pics

vital ibex
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Speaking of ASOIAF, are they ever bringing out the books with the new covers in trade paperback or is that just staying as a mmpb release?

warm leaf
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And now that all this talk about The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms has come out, and my brothers were watching Breaking Bad and it sparked some controversy, I want to read the books and then watch the series, but I was also about to start reading Red Rising

warm leaf
forest sierra
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Ah, not an English edition

warm leaf
forest sierra
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Yeah then I'd go for RR

vital ibex
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I might swap them out for the trade version if they do though

forest sierra
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ASOIAF is an incredibly detailed series with some very subtle and intentional wording in places for great foreshadowing and bonkers theorycrafting

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I highly highly highly recommend reading it in English

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RR is not that serious

vital ibex
forest sierra
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Love the first one

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The books two and three covers are so clearly accidentally swapped though lol

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Like even without the stag and lion imagery swap there's no reason ||the comet|| should be on book 3 instead of 2

warm leaf
forest sierra
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yes

warm leaf
# forest sierra yes

I plan to read up to the third book because some people say that's where an arc ends

forest sierra
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fair but

warm leaf
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something like WaT

forest sierra
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book 4 especially deals very well with the fallout of the war

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of the legacy of both good and bad people

warm leaf
forest sierra
forest sierra
long sorrel
warm leaf
forest sierra
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you don't need to read anything beforehand for AKOTSK

warm leaf
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My brothers don't read, so they're waiting for me to read this before watching Game of Thrones. They want to know why it's competing with Breaking Bad because of the controversyLUL

little dock
vital ibex
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oh really

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maybe I need to look harder then

little dock
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Vs

vital ibex
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Ah amazon USA, might be worth a go anyway though

potent linden
junior dew
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Antimemetics Division 3 || Hilton. Appendages. Oooooo this is fun stuff ||

minor sleet
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That book was so fun

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I didn’t even know it was an scp thing when I read it

wraith lynx
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Obelisk Gate 5 ||Ah. I know these games now. I already know the cute brown girl pov will have the horrors Miss NK 🥴||

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||also JEEZ Jija is such a bum I cant wait for Essun or Nassun to kill him||

snow vessel
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Is Obelisk gate the sequel to fifth season?

junior dew
wraith lynx
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It is so peak Haze

royal carbon
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My brother was working on animorphs the last time we talked about books. I forgot to ask for an update when I saw him last year.

snow vessel
minor sleet
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I wouldn’t have known this was Zatanna if not for the speech bubble

frozen glacier
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I mean she lietrally has Z on her

minor sleet
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Yeah but I’ve never seen her in an outfit that isn’t a stage magician get up

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Titans make a dramatic entrance!

little dock
vital ibex
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Amazon US would likely deliver them to me but Ill look to see if theres a better option

minor sleet
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Redheaded Jason Todd looks wierd

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Oops sorry Donna Troy. Wierd cropping

minor sleet
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Wow the Young Justice cartoon did something waaaaaay different with Halo

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This does not look like the same character at all

vagrant torrent
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I’m writing down in my notes app what sci-fi and fantasy books and shows are priorities for me

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It helps a lot!

wraith lynx
minor sleet
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In the comics, Halo is a runaway/vagrant who died and fused with an alien and woke up with no memory

wraith lynx
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Hm!

minor sleet
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So not that different a backstory but this Halo seems much cheerier

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Also she has a better costume. The design looks like something could be easily modified into a more modest outfit for a hijabi character

wraith lynx
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Mhm, the design is genuinely really cool!

minor sleet
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Just make it less formfitting, cover the hair, and incorporate the hair streaks into the fabric of the hijab

wraith lynx
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Ah thats so perfect wwhw

minor sleet
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The comic character had such a boring look. You can’t give a character rainbow light powers and then put the in drab grays and browns

wraith lynx
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So were comic halos powers more light/prism oriented?? 🤔

minor sleet
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No, seven aura glows but they did different things. Also comic Halo’s eyes don’t change colors

wraith lynx
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I see I see, this is so facinating

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I should have expected og halo to be a random white woman 🤣

minor sleet
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If you want to read her stuff yourself it’s all in Batman and the Outsiders from the early 1980s. She hasn’t really appeared more than that

wraith lynx
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Makes sense 🤔

minor sleet
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The changes they made to the character were hamfisted but presumably well intentioned

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That said the show should’ve hired a Muslim writer, ideally a woman who veils, to avoid the hamfisted ness

wraith lynx
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As much as new Halo pisses me off, I am willing to agree. Especially when they had to go back and try again for the newest season.... cue more hamfistedness but again, an attempt!

vital ibex
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The Mystery Knight ||I figured out the Maynard Plumm twist literally like 2 pages before it was revealed lol||

wraith lynx
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In general I tend to see a lot of non Muslims struggle to write Muslim characters. They either go too far left and make characters do things unislamic or too far right and shove silent hijabis in the background... :/

vital ibex
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AKOTSK (book) ||Cracking end, not sure which of the Dunk and Egg stories is my favorite||

minor sleet
wraith lynx
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Yeah, and its fustrating! Its why ive kind of given up on muslim rep in books? Not really with tv shows (even if most of them resort to option b: silent hijabi) 😒

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-# dont even get me started on hoping for a black Muslim, I gave up on that for any medium a long time ago

oblique zodiac
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off topic, but shouldnt it be Cosmic Class of 2026?

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🤔

wraith lynx
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Well no, its class of 2025 because thats the year I graduated college 😂💕

minor sleet
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I did really like him but also he was going around raising devils in defiance of god which I’m pretty sure is as anathema to Islam as it is to Christianity

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Oh! Cosmic! Have you ever read any of the Kamala Khan/Ms Marvel comics. The original ones from 2014?

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The first issue ends with a quote from the Quran

wraith lynx
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But I wanted to read more into Kamala

minor sleet
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Wow I forgot in her first few issues she was just straight up pretending to be Carol

minor sleet
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True friendship is hating your friends awful parents

velvet umbra
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I thought it was like "Doesn't This Remind You of Something?" pastiches

frozen glacier
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well its certainly had Christianity.

velvet umbra
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I think I'm mixing it up with Empire of the Vampire cause the premise is similar and that's fresher on my mind

wraith lynx
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Well... maybe I should have some faith 👀👀

minor sleet
velvet umbra
wraith lynx
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Til he had a name 💀

minor sleet
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Fan given name

velvet umbra
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I was gonna say more of a description than a name lol

wraith lynx
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Ah I see 😂

snow vessel
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We have some brothers karamazov fans here right?

mild lance
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Also they actually do something cool with Black Muslim representation: ||Kamala’s brother’s love interest is a Black Muslim, and they directly address how they face discrimination from other Muslims||

wraith lynx
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Oh im listening???? 👀👀👀👀

minor sleet
sleek jungle
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Twelve months ch 14 ||"No rage flooded through me. No power kindled inside me. No magic flowed through me into the staff. And when my lips formed the word, “Fuego,” absolutely nothing happened. No power." That's just wrongBibleThump Poor Harry. There might be a supernatural element to his struggles, with the weird flying thing even Bear can't perceive, but it's probably only amplifying the problem, not creating it. ||

analog geode
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I just finished the Raven Scholar for a book club. It really surprised me how good it was. A layered story with good characters

proper silo
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I've somewhat-accidentally stumbled upon this short webnovel called They All Say I've Met A Ghost, and mannn what a lucky find

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Incredibly funny

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The premise is that a guy who does not believe in ghosts is hired to teach at a school for ghosts, except he keeps not believing that ghosts are real and thinks his students just come from difficult backgrounds

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That's the only joke the book has but it's short enough and manages to vary it enough that it doesn't get boring

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fun/10

oblique zodiac
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I have access to my college library now and it is rekindling my passion for reading

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omg there are a ton of english literature

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idk if I am fit to read though I might wait a few more weeks

snow vessel
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RR series all ||one of my irl friends was reading IG and said she was a bit unsatisfied with Cassius's death. So I told her that "theres more information later on that expands and recontextualises the moment"||

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||she does not know that this information is, yknow, Cassius not being dead LUL ||

rose meteor
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late but honestly the part of left hand of darkness that stuck with me most was the snow

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really great snow

old bone
snow vessel
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I thought it worked quite well

old bone
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Let's just wish I don't have to use it on you

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:kekge:

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cuz it would defeat the purpose

snow vessel
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RR series all ||Well sometimes there is just information that adds to the moment that isnt it being a fakeout!||

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||I used that phrasing because it can be both so big as "he didnt die" and also something like, idk another pov of the moment or a flow-on effect and both work||

old bone
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yeah

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RR series all || I just mean you now know what I would use it for ||

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😭

snow vessel
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Hey Goro I'm trying to remember which book it was you recommended me

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Was it The Stranger?

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Or the outsider? or something like that?

vital ibex
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If its L'etranger by Albert Camus itll be called The Stranger or The Outsider in english @snow vessel

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The copy I have is The Outsider

snow vessel
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Ahhh so they're the same book?

vital ibex
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if its by Albert Camus then should be yeah afaik

minor sleet
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Himedanshi Darkseid is a really funny side effect of the Absolute Universe

forest sierra
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||Offscreen deaths of prominent characters|| never count

tight kindle
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Captive Prince is available 👀

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I just started a non-fiction today that I really want to get through though 😩

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We'll see whether I can hold out

minor sleet
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I think I got my advisor into Adrian Tchaikovsky

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My MA thesis was about a field hospital so when I saw a fantasy novel also set in one I knew what my thank you gift would be

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He just emailed to say he finished it, got another by the same author (possibly in the same series) and that he’s been recommending it widely

ripe tide
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Cool

wraith lynx
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Alright friends, lots of good book finds today! Tempted to get that Robin hobb triolgy ive heard so much about 👀👀

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Assassin's Aprentice + the other two

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The entire expanse series is here too! But im not getting those 😂

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But also also the first Licanus... so many options 👀

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Gah, gardens of the moon too! Man... I dont have the funds for this 😭

brazen pilot
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Do Assassin's Apprentice

wraith lynx
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Thsts what im leaning towards tbh

long sorrel
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I was going to say that from what you've said, I'd grab that, for you

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but I haven't read the first Licanus

brazen pilot
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Licanius is a solid and fun series but nothing in it shouts cosmic core imo

wraith lynx
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There was also foundryside but I know less about that one

small bloom
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Only one I’ve read from what you’ve listed

wraith lynx
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👀👀

lusty meteor
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Hold off on gardens

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It will wait

wraith lynx
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Man its like every time I poke malazan you guys are like "you are not ready young one" 😔💔

brazen pilot
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it's almost like we also love robin hobb and think you should read her books at least as much

wraith lynx
lusty meteor
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Nah she is not ready

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Also what pizza said

wraith lynx
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Excellent point pizza- alright 🤣

alpine drum
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Fitz is cosmic-core

brazen pilot
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I might appear to be in the Malazan cabal lately because I've been reading it and kinda blown away by how impressive it is

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But like

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Hobb is tied for my favorite author

lusty meteor
brazen pilot
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Fitz is my favorite ficitonal character and it's not a contest

wraith lynx
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woah really??? 👀👀

lusty meteor
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Wait its a tie?

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GGK slipping

brazen pilot
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It's always been a tie

alpine drum
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tied pizza

brazen pilot
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If multiple things are tied for my favorite I just refer to them all as my favorite and don't acknowledge the contradiction

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There are like four different manga I call my #1 favorite

lusty meteor
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Hobb publishing rainwilds and being up there is a feat

brazen pilot
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She wrote Tawny Man

alpine drum
lusty meteor
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Tawny man is goated

wraith lynx
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I got all 3, yipee!! XD

long sorrel
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I think you would like Foundryside personally but I also think you'd like other stuff more? Can't say

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foundryside has fun characters and a pretty fun magic system

wraith lynx
#

👀👀

alpine drum
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RotE ALL ||ne dies in the Tawny Man trilogy right? I forget which is which of the books featuring Fitz||

long sorrel
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I wouldn't recommend it over or under Assassin's Aprentice

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they're really different vibes

brazen pilot
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fyi cosmic [farseer trilogy general] ||book 1 does not have wolf content but i think you'll still enjoy it||

wraith lynx
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Thats okay, its not a requirement 🤣

brazen pilot
long sorrel
#

I think Foundryside is probably a bit lighter

alpine drum
brazen pilot
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there was a solid period of time where spaceduck was enjoying the prior trilogies but not being like, completely blown away

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and i kept telling him "tawny man is the part that's an outright masterpiece, tawny man fixes every issue"

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and he wasn't sure if he believed me

lusty meteor
#

Tawny man is amazing. Liveships is also great except that one time

alpine drum
#

spaceduck is a fitz and the fool hater so his RotE takes have to be vetted thoroughly

lusty meteor
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I am correct

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Assassin’s Fate is a bad book

wraith lynx
#

Me who probably wont care if hes fine af (ive seen fanart. I know the answer): 🥴💕

long sorrel
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I tried Liveship many tiems and never got into it

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Now that I'm reading the first trilogy I feel this will be different

#

Well, I've only read book 1 but I intend to read book 2... one of these days

wraith lynx
#

Ah well, maybe next time 🤣

long sorrel
#

I think you would like the other 2 RJB series more than Foundryside

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But who knows lol, all 3 are great

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But they're quite rather different from each other (highly)

small bloom
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Speaking of which I plan to start The Tainted Cup as soon as I’m done with The Starless Sea

low hill
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perches chin on hands

long sorrel
#

How are you liking The Starless Sea?

small bloom
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It’s really good so far

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I’m a bit more than halfway through

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Starless Sea general ||I love all the stories from in-universe books and how they’re woven into the main story
Also really like Zachary as a character
And the vibes in general are great||

junior dew
analog geode
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Licanius was forgettable

exotic totem
low hill
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I think I slightly preferred the liveship books, but it's been so long since I read any of them...

analog geode
#

I didn’t like Liveship

mild lance
#

I need to get back to RotE soon

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I read Assassin’s Apprentice like 3 years ago

vagrant torrent
#

Friends I’m going through my r/fantasy posts and listing down the recommendations people give me

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It’s so much 🫠

analog geode
#

Just ignore them and read whatever I tell you

vagrant torrent
analog geode
#

Earthsea! Emily Wilde! Vorsokigan!

tight kindle
#

The Starless Sea :3

vagrant torrent
#

Earthsea and Vorkosigan are on my priority list 👀

#

I really wanna become well read this year 😌

vagrant torrent
minor sleet
#

Diversity win! The cult of Brother Blood is not racially segregated!

minor sleet
#

George Perez made her a model so he could draw her like this. Thanks George

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Huh he was track and field originally. The football backstory must be a retcon

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Oh it’s New 52 bs. That makes sense

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Geoff Johns, when I get you within tomato pelting range, watch out

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Richard Grayson!!!

old bone
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@snow vessel it was The Stranger

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I just realized I replied to you in my head yesterday and not in chat

lofty glen
#

Because it’s like… there are some things that worked… and some things that were absolute dogcrap

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(WonderSupes being one of the things that was dogcrap)

zinc flicker
#

Distance has turned me around on AA. ||I never thought it was bad (and always thought it was great) but I do think it is VERY character focused and I read it at a time where I preferred plot-based stuff. Nowadays, I’d love it more if I read it again. Should probably reread before I continue with the test.||

random dome
snow vessel
#

It was coming up a bunch in one of my classes lol

ivory cypress
#

The Starless Sea was the really good one people liked, right?

#

it just came in on libby

long sorrel
#

Mhmmm

idle trellis
#

The starless sea is such a good title

long sorrel
#

It is

minor sleet
#

He was created to be a teen titan why are yu making him a justice league founding member. There are other black heroes to pick from

snow vessel
#

So DC KO ended

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That was a comic for sure

#

Didnt find it aggressively bad but was definitely disappointed by how DC KO all ||little tournament arc this tournament arc had, plus the ending felt pretty unimpactful. Though supposedly the next crisis will be even bigger... we'll see||

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DC KO/dark nights death metal ||also I swear this ending was basically the exact same as Death Metal||

minor sleet
snow vessel
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||The next one will be the important one...||

minor sleet
#

That’s what they all say

snow vessel
#

DC KO All ||I think my biggest issue with the event is that it was marketed as a multi-round bracket-based tournament and we got only one real round of 1v1 fights||

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||and 90% of the cast were really irrelevant||

long sorrel
#

I have finished the book i was reading in print so now I Wonder which to pick up next, could be a reread, a horror book, cl polk, or Amina Al-Sirafi

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There's a few more options there I guess

junior dew
#

Children of Time languishing in wait 😔

long sorrel
#

That's next but not from the print ones

tight kindle
velvet umbra
#

Ended up finding an audiobook for Sir Cameron on hoopla, it was very fun can see why y’all liked it

ivory cypress
#

woohoo 🎉

raw musk
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Heretical fishing 1 ch 4: ||Someone's aware of cultivation and LitRPG books lol. Not sure what Zorian is a reference to though||

wraith lynx
#

Obelisk Gate 9 ||I know i gravitate toward younger children in stories, but Nassun is my favorite character in the series right now. Shes so strong and clearly a victim of generational trauma. I thought I was going to vomit when I saw Schaffa show up again but... maybe the can heal together. I still worry, the last kid pov was full of The Horrors™️ 😭||

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Also tee hee the titles are still so fun!

wraith lynx
#

Obelisk Gate 10 ||snaps fingers thats the title of the book! 🫵🏽||

wraith lynx
#

I am almost halfway done... 😭

vagrant torrent
#

I gotta stop my habit of doomscrolling lmao. I wanna get to that level of speed 🫠

wraith lynx
#

Tbh that is a yipee! Faster i get done with this and Stone Sky, faster i can get to PHM 🥰

vagrant torrent
vagrant torrent
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Btw I have 230 pages left on Way of Kings 🥰

wraith lynx
#

Project Hail Mary!

vagrant torrent
velvet cargo
#

It’s the best. One of of if not my favorite standalone sci-fi books.

analog geode
#

I’m seeing it tonight!

velvet cargo
lofty glen
#

This pissed me off so you guys have to see it too LUL

#

The top is the original print of the Invincible and Spider-Man crossover comic

The bottom is the reprint that released a couple days ago

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This is like

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Genuinely unforgivable

versed agate
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except in this case it looks like they photographed it with too much light

proven token
minor sleet
#

They also rewrote it to plug Amazon prime and its shows

snow vessel
#

Apparently two more acotar books were announced

#

Part of me wants to keep going with the series again but I know it won't be a good experience

ivory cypress
#

oh i'll read them

#

i need to have an opinion

snow vessel
#

I ragequit halfway through 2

#

Part of me wants to be able to have more of an opinion but I know it'll just be a sucky experience. Book 2 might be so frustrating it's entertaining but it'll get old and then I'll just be annoyed

old bone
#

Everyone I know tells me it was honestly a great book

snow vessel
#

I... definitely disagree

#

Book 1 was fine, book 2 I have a lot of strong feelings about (lowly)

rugged tartan
#

I haven't touched acotar, but I did get about halfway through Throne of Glass and it was a poor experience. Felt like two different stories mashed together poorly, and the dynamic of the implicit romantic pairings was baffling considering their context

snow vessel
#

ToG the series or ToG the book?

rugged tartan
#

The book

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Throne of Glass ||Like, being kept as a slave worker in an incredibly abusive prison camp for a year and then crushing on your warden is one thing, and was already a hard sell, its another thing entirely for this master assassin that was so absurdly accomplished at such an impossibly young age that nobody around her believes that the rumors could be even a little bit true to also throw a potted plant at a passerby who's talking about how she wants to get a political marriage with him so you can ruin her dress/maybe kill her if it falls on her, its a third thing entirely to be a refugee from a nation that was razed to the ground, dreaming of nothing but the destruction of the empire that killed everything you knew, the last bastion of a secret magic that not everyone even believes is real, with so much (Completely justified!) contempt for its rulers that seeing its king in person nearly causes her to give up on her life to attempt to assassinate him on the spot without a full plan of how to do that, knowing full well it would result in her immediate death regardless of how successful it is, despite her aforementioned incredible prowess and expertise... and then she starts crushing on the prince of that nation based on really not that many interactions||

junior smelt
long sorrel
#

I think I'm going for something else first

#

But I've actually resumed Children of Time now

junior smelt
#

Hell yeah

#

CoT is great

#

Where did you leave it before?

snow vessel
long sorrel
#

I had read like 5 chapters?

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Now I've read 6

junior smelt
# snow vessel -no wot fan ever

I still found Crossroads good if not great. I do know most find it either ok or not even that. And even agree with the points. I just didn't feel the slog while reading it

long sorrel
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I'm at the part where, Children of Time early ||they are getting the beacon signal and trying to figure out how to reply to it, then they send the solution to some math problem and the beacon turned off. Next is a spooder chapter||

snow vessel
junior smelt
#

When I posted it

long sorrel
#

Btw @ivory cypress Wolf Worm this month!

junior smelt
#

But decided to not write about it because I was walking

quaint tendon
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Currently reading

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Well I’m on chapter 20 but. This is what was in my photo album lol

#

Man this book is so good

#

Loved This is How You Lose the Time War, and this has that dna flowing through it. Obviously one of the writers wrote this but like

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All the things that were good about TIHYLTTW come through in this book too

#

Really great prose work

long sorrel
#

my usual bookstore is having a stroke

#

well the usual one for ebooks

#

It's like "let us know how you liked Sir Cameron and we'll recommend you these books:"
Then it gives me an emotional war book and Brimstone

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I have no idea why is it recommending me those 2 books LUL

#

or how do they relate to Sir Cameron

snow vessel
#

Maybe they have a knight...?

quaint tendon
#

I can’t even think of a good enough connection to make a bad joke about that

long sorrel
#

Brimstone, i assume, it's just porn, like the first one, but I never bought the first one on this store so like (nor any other smutty book)

#

So Idk why it went there

#

I have bought Folk of the Air there I guess

uncut shoal
#

The Wizard's Butler was a surprisingly good and cozy read. Some stakes but mostly living life and I liked it

#

The characters were a little flat, but still endearing

ivory cypress
long sorrel
#

I'm excited about it being a gothic setting

#

I don't think we've ever gotten this type of setting before?

zinc flicker
#

Gothic 👀

#

the way I was just about to ask for well written gothic romance

#

I opened Discord to talk about wanting a gothic romance actually LUL

long sorrel
#

I doubt it'll be a romance

#

Most Kingfisher horror has like a very background romance or a hint at romance at best

zinc flicker
long sorrel
#

yes, it will be horror

wraith lynx
#

Obelisk Gate 12 ||If you told me a couple weeks ago id be rooting for Schaffa as he fought against Jija i would have laughed in your face 😭||

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||and yet here we are||

#

||also obligatory Jija is a bum||

raw musk
#

I can't explain why, but I'm enjoying Heretical Fishing more than I did Beware of Chicken, even though they have similar premises

minor sleet
#

Beware of Chicken has gone on too long

#

Indie authors who write chapter by chapter do not consider when enough is enough

raw musk
#

I stopped after book 1 of Chicken. I'm only on book 1 of Fishing, but I want to keep listening beyond

small bloom
#

Just finished The Starless Sea

minor sleet
junior smelt
tight kindle
#

I was looking at Kobo ereaders because I really would like to move away from Amazon and my Kindle at some point, and the color one is only $20 more than the black and white one‽
That's wild

#

Also being audiobook compatible is wild as well

alpine drum
#

color eink has come a long way

#

I'm very satisfied with my kobo, very easy to upload epubs to it from my computer

tight kindle
#

What's the UI like?
I don't like the Kindle UI overly much

alpine drum
#

I would say it's pretty intuitive

#

there are some videos on youtube which show it so you can check those out if you want to get a feel for it

long sorrel
#

It's very simple

old bone
#

don't even need color eink

#

and yeah the UI is intuitive

uncut shoal
#

This author is using the term "eather" and I just can't even

#

Like, it's pretty good so far, other than that

minor sleet
junior dew
#

I refuse to accept that Warriors is furry media

proven token
snow vessel
#

Well cats have fur, right?

hoary path
#

Oh gods, I haven’t thought about Warriors in a long time lol. I definitely had a Warriors OC as a kid.

proven token
junior dew
hushed kettle
#

Prove me wrong Neville would have been a better main character than harry

iron pond
worldly carbon
uncut shoal
iron pond
#

blergh, that's annoying

long sorrel
#

This book dedication is "to those who put up with me"

ivory cypress
#

march already so different - i've just finished my first book of the month LUL

long sorrel
#

If I ever wrote a book, which I won't, but if I did, that'd be the most fitting thing

ripe tide
#

What book is that?

long sorrel
potent linden
ivory cypress
# long sorrel

it took until the THIRD look at this to even see the woman amidst the rocks ahfhdsakfjas

long sorrel
#

haha

junior smelt
#

But sure... Why?

minor sleet
#

Finished Teen Titans: The Judas Contract

#

I think I’m going to keep reading the New Teen Titans run, it’s fun and well written and I’m about halfway done with it anyway

wraith lynx
#

Nice! I've only seen the movie but that was a long time ago

minor sleet
#

I saw the arc from the tv show but they really softened Terra

#

And aged down most of the characters

raw musk
#

Heretical Fishing has been so fun. I particularly enjoyed the title for chapter 69. Nice

junior dew
#

Antimemetics was very good. Waffling between whether it’s a 4 or 4.5 star for me. Really neat book. Very well done

south zinc
#

Asoiaf all ||do u guys think book Jaime wouldve killed his cousin to get out of captivity?||

uncut shoal
#

Ohhh my gooosssshhhh. A Flesh and Fire series spoilers, also hugely NSFW ||Oh my god. She's running around mostly naked with a broken glass dildo as a weapon. I'm in bloody love||

somber timber
uncut shoal
somber timber
#

||3 because I’m dying ||

uncut shoal
#

It was freaking awesome

#

It's a random series I found while looking for something to read on Kindle Unlimited and it's really quite good and has some amazingly hiliarous moments

uncut shoal
somber timber
sharp steeple
low hill
#

Finished up Sunbringer, and might dip into a Malazan for a bit.

wraith lynx
#

Obelisk Gate 16 ||Hoa was the one in Syenite's Obelisk... that makes so much sense||

#

Haven't had many thoughts other than WOOOOO

minor sleet
#

Finally getting to Sunrise on the Reaping and Suzanne Collins is really hammering in how cyclical this all is

#

The characters and names and legacies recur from book to book

#

It’s awful

#

Like all tragedies are

wraith lynx
#

Obelisk Gate 17 ||Im tired too, Nassun. Shes only 10 and she already feels so hardened. I adore her so much wwhw||

#

Obelisk Gate 17 ||also her being fed up with Essun for tolerating a weak man in the first place is so... oooo the generational trauma is generationally traumaing!!! XD||

junior dew
#

The series is so peak

ivory cypress
#

okay, finally made more progress with Mask of Mirrors, up to 70% now ||Leato STILL such a gut punch, i can't believe they did this to me. i don't even know why i'm so affected. marie and alyc have the sauce||

ripe tide
#

aaaaaa

ripe tide
ivory cypress
#

maybe when i'm further

#

i'm worried about spoilers :P

wraith lynx
#

Obelisk Gate 19 ||Dang, and I didnt think the titles would get better than "you get the band back together" but this one takes it 😂||

#

Also im less than 20% done... 😭

#

It has been 6 days btw 👀

ripe tide
analog geode
#

LONDON—Calling for all hands on deck as he seized an armful of paperbacks, local bookshop owner Colin Mueller was reportedly scrambling to hide the classics Monday after he spotted filmmaker Emerald Fennell approaching the door. “For the love of God, please, someone grab the Jane Austens!” said Mueller, who jumped on top of a chair […]

ivory cypress
#

starless sea 4% ||HMM!!!||

tight kindle
#

You starteddddddd 👀👀👀

ivory cypress
#

yeah it came in on libby!

#

i now have just a couple weeks to get through it

tight kindle
#

I'm very excited to see what you think!

wide hearth
#

Welp, finally finished Pale after nearly 6 years. 3/5. (Pale) ||Incredible worldbuilding, mostly succeeds in cramming every Seal of Solomon style magic in one mostly-coherent whole, plus about 10 more magic systems. But was a bit of a slog towards the end, I wish the girls were aged up a bit, and|| (Wildbow general) ||the repetitive overuse of dialogue and white room syndrome finally affected my reading experience. It's taken me 10 million words across Worm, Pact, Ward and Pale to conclude that maybe unedited unreviewed webserials aren't my thing LUL ||

snow vessel
#

Let's see if I can bring myself to sit through a chapter or two of merrick

jovial tide
#

Project Hail Mary lived up to the hype
||I'm afraid I'm going to catch myself saying "bad bad bad 😔 " a bunch 😅 ||

wraith lynx
#

Gosh I am SO hyped to read it XD

long sorrel
ivory cypress
#

that's funny

uncut shoal
junior dew
#

PHM was so good! And people seem to really be liking the movie so I’m very cautiously excited about an adaptation that doesn’t fall flat for once

low hill
#

I'm glad you all enjoyed it, but I found it ... mid.

junior dew
#

And that’s okay!

sleek jungle
#

This one took me too much time but I'm finally done with Twelve Months! One of the better Dresden books, but not the best one imo
Twelve months all ||The beginning was tough to get through, mostly because of the subject matter. After that, there was a metric ton of things to enjoy. Bear was awesome, instant favorite. Magic rituals were super fun. Seeing a more mature, somewhat more thoughtful Harry in a leadership position was one of the best things this book did for the series. Finally, after reaching his middle years and losing his best friend and lover, Dresden thinks about the consequences before acting! Which should've begun three books earlier, but I'll take what I can get. Mab was incredible too. Really, there was only one part of the story I disliked. It's Harry's relationship with Ramires. It oscillated like a sine wave on cocaine. One day, he treats Dresden like a dangerous thrall of Winter and the White Court who abandoned all his humanity, and the next, he helps him out in a fight and everything's fine? Huh? It didn't make sense to me||

velvet umbra
#

Anyone who’s read Harrow the Ninth: Is it normal for me to have barely any idea what’s going on?

#

Like I kind of get some things but I’m generally super confused

brazen pilot
#

Yeah that's intended

velvet umbra
#

At what point should I start figuring things out? Cause I’m about 1/3 and still pretty lost

brazen pilot
#

RAFO

#

:)

velvet umbra
#

Guess it’s good I hate DNFing lol

velvet umbra
tight kindle
ivory cypress
#

and this week is the next Rachel Neumeier drop on Patreon, Bereket wwhw i can't waaaaaaaait

wet belfry
#

Artemis felt way too overedited

#

Didn't sound like Andy Weir, more like an imitation of Andy Weir

minor sleet
#

Woah…..

#

This never happens

pale mortar
#

So i just finished the new dresden book twelve months and I can’t figure out who he is talking to in chapter 18. My guess is || murphy’s spirit||. Does anyone else have other ideas?

iron pond
pale mortar
#

I finished it

iron pond
#

ah, ok. I had pretty much the same thought as you when I was reading. Here's a link to the message I posted after finishing the chapter: #1404497733108236318 message

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sorry for my reading comprehension fail, lol. I am sleep deprived

#

but yeah, every time he's playing board games in his lab and talking to an unspecified "she", the identity of "she" is the same

snow vessel
#

I see the whole book as a bit of a puzzle

velvet umbra
snow vessel
#

Yeah, it's definitely the experience

#

I think I had a whole little document where I was writing down all the weird stuff to see if I could figure anything out

velvet umbra
#

I probably should be doing that but I think atp I'm in deep enough to just see what happens and then go back and figure things out

snow vessel
#

I can't promise I had much success, anyways

velvet umbra
#

||the main one is characters seemingly appearing at random and later not being acknowledged as being present, many of who I am fairly certain are dead||

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||Also the most obvious elephant in the room being the almost complete lack of acknowledgement of the previous book's protagonist (this one is so extreme it is obviously intentional right away)||

uncut shoal
snow vessel
#

^ that's safe for you

velvet umbra
# snow vessel HTN ||which characters are these?||

||Abigail something? The older husband wife pair that died mid GTN? Also Harrow's "cavalier" whose name sounds familiar but obviously just kind of appeared in this book as if he has always been there and seems to just kind of awkwardly drift in and out of the story? ||

snow vessel
#

HTN ||that's intentional, and you are meant to not really know what's going on there||

#

||is this in the chapters with the slashed/divided icons?||

velvet umbra
#

idk

#

I'm audiobooking 4/5 chapters

#

most of this stuff I'm clocking as fishy it's just hard to keep track for sure

snow vessel
#

Ahhh right

#

HTN ||yeah there's some... unusual continuity with book 1, which is on purpose||

velvet umbra
#

compared?

#

idk where that came from

tight kindle
mild lance
# velvet umbra ||Abigail something? The older husband wife pair that died mid GTN? Also Harrow'...

Gonna try to make this as non-spoilery as possible, read at your own risk: ||there are two stories intertwined here, one is the direct follow-up to GTN and is told in second-person, the other appears to be an alternate version of GTN and is in third-person. Harrow’s cavalier is Ortus, he was another member of the Ninth House in the first book. He and his mom escaped with the ship Gideon had intended to use and then got blown up||

velvet umbra
velvet umbra
# mild lance Fair enough lol

I did at least figure|| A. the POV differences are intentional and B. There is some level of non-linear storytelling or other timeline weirdness at play||

#

Normally I'm better at picking up on all of this stuff but I started reading this in conjunction with a bunch of other books cause like I said I didn't expect it to be this much of a thinker lol

light drum
#

Twilight Preface ||So im assuming this happens way latter and the 'death' is her becoming a vampire ||

light drum
#

Twilight 1||Ok it so plainly obvious as some one who lives in the PNW that Stephanie Meyer doesn't by hiw she veiws the rain as far worse than it is||

junior dew
#

Been listening to the Housemaid. This book is actually wild

#

Got an hour left. Probably won’t finish tonight but this has been a journey.

ivory cypress
#

starless sea 19% ||every time I see imagery like this referenced, I'm like - twin peaks??? 🤨 Dale Cooper is that you||

junior dew
#

I should give starless sea another shot one day

torpid kiln
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I'm trying to read "The Worst Ship in the Fleet" because I heard that it was humorous and fun but I find I mostly want to smack the main character in the face and maybe kick him in the balls

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^tags ||Okay I want to kick him in the balls less now, but I still want to smack him upside the head||

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ivory cypress
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okay made it to the halfway point of the starless sea 👀

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anxious to finish it, i've found the momentum now. maybe a day or two more until i'm done

ripe tide
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Btw @ivory cypress do you have any predictions for ||who the Rook is?||

junior dew
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Finished the Housemaid. Wild ride. Very fun read

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Next up is Shroud by Tchaikovsky

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Though Grey has me wondering about Starless Sea again

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I was 24% through it when I just didn’t end up picking it up again apparently

low hill
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Shroud is also good, but I prefer The Starless Sea...

junior dew
mellow meteor
junior dew
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My brain had been having trouble focusing while listening to books the last few weeks and I didn’t have that issue with the Housemaid so I’m crossing my fingers that it was just a very temporary issue.

Like I’d be listening and I’d have to keep rewinding because my brain kept getting pulled towards other trains of thought

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Very annoying problem to have

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Antimemetics was also somewhat better much of the time on that front

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twelve months ||putting him in contrast against the more hardline elements within the White Council kind of shows both that he still isn't an idiot even if he has reason to mistrust Harry deeply, and it also shows a little bit of how the White Council is basically screwed||

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RotE ||Is Fitz the least likeable protagonist ever written?||

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RotE ||some would say that fitz is babygirl and/or blorbo ||

ivory cypress
junior dew
low hill
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No. He's bad, but there are def. worse ones.

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but I like how in Twelve Months, ||he's also growing alongside Harry||

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Battle Ground ||put a lot in perspective for him, I'd guess||

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||I wouldn't be surprised if some of this was what Mab was hoping for in the first place||

junior dew
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I don't even know what the first two mean

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minor sleet
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codenames are you calling fitz The Worst in a loving way?

minor sleet
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Blorbo for a character you really like, baby girl as an endearment for someone you are protecting/babying etc

minor sleet
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I am a very decisive person and there’s nothing that drives me more insane than characters who cannot commit to choices

brazen pilot
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I've never seen a better character than Fitz

minor sleet
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Moiraine’s “take what you want and pay for it” is honestly the ideal character type for me

brazen pilot
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He is the most grounded, human, nuanced, realistically complex and flawed character I've ever seen in fiction and it's not close

low hill
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That's not incompatable with him being so annoying you want to throw him out of a window. :P

brazen pilot
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He has literally never done anything wrong

lusty meteor
brazen pilot
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Fitz sure did!

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Not blorboing fitz is a red flag on par with watching mr beast

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r/raresentences

low hill
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I would never willingly ... blorboing ... anyone.

velvet umbra
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You don’t willingly blorbo characters it just happens

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brazen pilot
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waow

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Golden Fool ||let’s start with ignoring Hap for weeks on end while he struggles. Or, I don’t know insulting Fool every which way to Sunday. Or I know, treating Starling and Jinna like whores. Not following anyone’s advice and thinking only he can be moral and right. Should I continue?||

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||hap was rebelling, fool was also being a jerk and an argument got heated, and he did not treat starling and jinna like whores? They just had sex?||

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||starling was way worse to fitz||

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Golden Fool ||The Hap situation was only ever going to be solved by Hap making his own mistakes and learning from them, Fitz was understandably busy trying to juggle a billion different things at once but I don't think the Hap stuff was actually going to go better if he was constantly coddling him. Both Fitz and the Fool were understandably unkind to each other because they had a natural clash of what each one of them cared about and wanted that was frankly inevitable. I'm not even sure what the specific point about Starling or Jinna is.||

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||Starling was absolutely in the wrong as well, but it in no way gave Fitz the “right” to treat them as he did. And yes Hap needed to get himself out of his own issues but that doesn’t absolve Fitz from neglecting him for weeks on end when Jinna was pleading with him to discuss what was going on. And Fitz was way way way way worse to The Fool than the Fool was back. I’m not even getting into the Nettle of it at all. He’s just unlikable. Whiney. Indecisive. And tries to stand on a moral high ground he doesn’t have.||

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junior dew
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Blorboing as a verb based on what aaks shared doesn’t seem to make sense to me

minor sleet
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Rand is my blorbo but Fitz is not for the same reason that I can’t stand Perrin

lusty meteor
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Redhead bias strikes again smh

junior dew
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Fitz from RoTE and Adunni from The Girl with the Louding Voice are probably the two single best characters I’ve read

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I’m just shocked at that. I can see liking him, I guess. But best characters ever…wow. Not even in the same stratosphere of hundreds of other characters I’ve read

junior smelt
# alpine drum

The third option of "scared of seeing just how much of him is reflected in me (and not the cool/honorable parts) and confused at how to feel about it"

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I didn't read RotE to see a character who deduces the optimal approach to every single situation and makes the right decision to create the best possible outcome. It's messy, it's human, and how Fitz handles situations is hugely dictated by his trauma, the way the people around him have used him, and the cultural norms he feels bound to. Plenty of situations where you can say "well, I would have just done this" and sure, but Fitz isn't us. When you look closely at all the factors that makes him feel the way he does, then it's a lot harder to say he should have just done different things, because that's basically asking him to have just had a different and easier upbringing. But the realism of all the ways his issues affect him is a big part of why he's my favorite. I've never been pulled into a character's own internal world, and seen their struggles through their own eyes and emotions, like I have with him.

junior dew
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Yeah when I say best I am thinking most human/most real feeling characters.

Like there may be really fun characters out there or characters I really enjoy, but Fitz has that realism factor.

lusty meteor
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fitz reads like an actual person, your mileage will vary on how much you want that

junior dew
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This just in, humans are deeply flawed and make mistakes in their lives

lusty meteor
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it is really interesting to read a character who is not forced to have catharsis and overcome all of their flaws by the whims of the narrative

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makes you realize how much most characters are on rails

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they are nervous in chapter 1, they will be not nervous at the end of the story. they start off as violent, they will end up a pacifist.

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hobb throws that out the window

long sorrel
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I've only read 1 book, idk if it's "the best character" both from enjoyment to writing skill, but he's really good

lusty meteor
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because, in real life, people dont always solves there problems. not every alcoholic gets sober. not every criminal faces justice. evolution is rare, and most people flatline once they get into adulthood

junior dew
long sorrel
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Oh, I didn't mean it as a negative just that, I don't know if I would place him at the top, but I do think he's really good

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I also think "well written" varies a lot on what you expect out of a character

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I do like hypercompetent characters, which Fitz is not, but also a lot of hypercompetent characters are pretty boringly written so not anyone will do.
But Fitz does hit all of the right spots in what he does and goes through even with only one book

junior dew
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Like it took time to get there for me. I was a bit iffy on the series until about halfway through book 2 and then something clicked for me haha

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But the views on the character work are for sure the result of looking at the series as a whole

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Got me wondering now what type of characters I tend to gravitate towards or prefer. Never thought about that

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I think it’s just fun to see different types of characters executed well

long sorrel
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I think it clicked me halfway through book 1

junior smelt
royal carbon
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I keep thinking you are talking about my cat nephew (named after FitzChivalry)

minor sleet
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Please show us the superior FitzChivalry

royal carbon
minor sleet
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A red head just like his counterpart

wraith lynx
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Stone Sky 2 ||This chapter title made me laugh out loud omg 😂||

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I finished Obelisk Gate yesterday

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I have not finished a book that fast since Red Rising

ivory cypress
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loooove to hear it

wraith lynx
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Oh Grey im having a BLAST 🤩

ivory cypress
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:D i'm so glad!! i also devoured these one after another

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i was just in the world

royal carbon
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Back in my day, we had to wait for the next book to be published

wraith lynx
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Oh that would have been agony 😭

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rugged tartan
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Its a good book!

wraith lynx
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nods furiously 😋💖

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Completely unrelated but what should I do first? Watch Game of Thrones or read A Song of Ice and Fire

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I haven’t experienced a fraction of either

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One will never be finished, the other one has a terrible ending

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It’s a lose/lose

long sorrel
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I'd say read because it's faster

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long sorrel
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and also the books are probably better anyway

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and if you still want more content after you can watch the show shrug

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When does GOT get bad?

analog geode
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Season 6, then it takes a nosedive in 7, then 8 is straight up offensive

somber timber
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You still have an incredible show for like 85% of it

alpine drum
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Some would say Season 5

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But only if you are really into the books

somber timber
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Yeah but it also has || hardhome|| season 5

alpine drum
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Yeah I think the good outweighs the bad until season 7

somber timber
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Same and even then 7 has some really great stuff

analog geode
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The best part of season 8 is the opening animations

somber timber
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Like I fully recommend the show

royal carbon
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I stopped after 7 iirc

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Haven't decided if I watch 8

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Has been a while

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# alpine drum
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In Realm of the Elderlings, is Fitz any of the following?

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Babygirl

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I don't want Fitz to be perfect or optimal. I want him to stop whining about every choice he makes and the choices others make around him. I want him to stop making the same wrong choices over and over and over again. I want him to be interesting beyond his flaws. And he's none of those things to me 5 books into his story.

idle trellis
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Then you are not gonna get much out of him

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The entire point of Fitz is to explore his trauma

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His flaws are central to him as a character

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Actually I'm wondering do you enjoy Kaladin ?

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I see both Fitz and Kaladin as similar characters in scope

lusty meteor
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SA all + rote gen||i think kaladin is a very protected character where is trauma and flaws never cause him to do anything the reader could conceivably disagree with. Which is not true for fitz lmao||

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I love Kaladin because for all his flaws and they are plentiful, he grows and tries not to make the same mistake over and over and over again. I just feel as if Fitz makes the same mistakes repeatedly, knows he’s making a mistake, and then does it anyway. I haven’t seen any growth from him. He whines about his life and gets the idea of what he could do to make it better but then decides he’d rather be “moral” or stubborn or whatever you wanna call it and just does the same things he’s always done.

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Describing it as whining about every choice he and others makes strikes me as a strange description. Like yeah, the story is about hard choices and difficult situations both ones he and others make, and it's gonna engage with the thoughts he has about both of those. Calling it whining has the same energy as the whole "Pride and Prejudice is just people going to each other's houses"

lusty meteor
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Gonna be honest here. I dont think Kaladin is flawed.

brazen pilot
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I'm not actually sure what the "same mistake" being described here is

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SA gen ||He is basically perfect but has depression||

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Stormlight general ||Hey he's occasionally kinda sexist which the story doesn't really engage with||

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There’s so many…how he treats people. How he refuses to grow though the same mistakes keep happening.

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Kaladin is far from perfect

snow vessel
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See endnight, now you are getting it!

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SA gen ||At no point during the story was i like wow, i really disagree with what kaladin did here that was a mistake||

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SA ||Moash||

idle trellis
lusty meteor
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Not making the same mistakes repeatedly

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Kal grows a lot then bc he doesnt even make mistakes once!

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SA ||Letting him live||

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idle trellis
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I also think that Fitz is put in wildly different situations, therefore his engagement with them is different even tho he does tend to make the same mistakes

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Kaladin kinda gets the same treatment over and over imo

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WoR ||Even when Kaladin makes a choice that I know some people really disagree with, e.g. siding with Elhokar, the story doesn't treat it like an actual choice the reader can have an opinion on, it's just narratively assumed to be right.||

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RotE ||How he treats Jinna and Starling. How he refuses to even consider the fact that there are people who now need to know his status. His entire relationship with Chade.||

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spoiler pls

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I can not disagree more about how Stormlight is written with regards to Kaladin

lusty meteor
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Rote all ||Ok actually how did he treat jinna and starling poorly? Like what happened?||

brazen pilot
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Please mark which series spoilers are for btw

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I’ll get back to this when it’s easier to type spoilers on a laptop

idle trellis
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Even this idea that a character needs to show some positivity to be liked I don't really agree with

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Okay

potent linden
# low hill I'm glad you all enjoyed it, but I found it ... mid.

okay phew I'm not the only one who thought PHM didn't quite live up to the hype 😅 though I maybe liked it more than you - it was good, better than The Martian imo. but I'd heard so much about ||how cool the aliens were and how interesting it got and then the book barely explored the alien culture. the biology was cool too, even without a particular background in biology, but I think the culture would've made it really hit different and it didn't quite. really most of the book was a good read but not quite as peak as I was hearing. but that's just in terms of expectations, if I hadn't gone in with expectations that it would be excellent then I would have been totally satisfied, I'm sure||

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Claincy is right that ||bad bad bad|| is iconic though

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I finished The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue last night and that one didn't quite live up to the hype for me either - I didn't fall in love with the characters that much. Bury Our Bones in the Midnight Soil was better, I might have liked Addie LaRue better if I hadn't read Bury Our Bones first 😅 but Addie LaRue still wasn't bad! I just didn't get that invested in the characters or feel the relationships much

idle trellis
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I really didn't like project hail Mary 😭

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I forgot most of everything that happens in it

potent linden
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another recent read for me was Hopepunk, by Preston Norton who also wrote a book I loved called Where I End and You Begin, and Hopepunk was also a fun read so that was nice

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junior dew
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Comparing Fitz to Kaladin is so wild to me. Granted comparing any of Brandon’s characters to any of Hobb’s is wild to me LUL

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I loved Brandon’s books but uhhh… yeah character is not the standout

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old bone
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I dunno. I read books for characters and I like them

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farseer is my top series and Stormlight is somewhere around 10. I find both's character work amazing

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I have read Moore though

old bone
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I have read Tolkien. Don't find the character work to be a standout.
Martin meh. I couldn't go past first book.

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Only Hobb is a writer there whose work I love a lot

junior dew
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I’ll admit I think I tend to be lower on Stormlight these days than people are on average here.

I also got back into reading via Sanderson

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Tress is my favorite Sanderson character probably

old bone
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I think we are just on the other side of the bar Grim. I find Tress character okay and the book insufferable

junior dew
old bone
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I have disliked Brandon's "plotting" and HoA hence was my least fav work of his. I rated it 0.5/5 iirc LUL

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Abercrombie is great. Character work is a standout

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Erikson I dropped Malazan. It was good but I haven't been able to manage 1-2 hour of reading time per day nowadays and can't do audiobook

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Guin I haven't read. Heard great things about

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Or Sazed

old bone
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Book 3 ruined Sazed for me

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Mistborn has a lot of great characters it gets hard to choose xP

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hoA || His portrayal of depression was really half baked for me ||

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I think book 3 ruined almost every character for me except || Spook ||

junior dew
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I think while I still very much enjoy the Cosmere and Sanderson’s work and I love the Mistborn series, as a whole I have just read so much other stuff that has really blown me away over the last few years

snow vessel
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Goro I always find seeing you discussing HoA amusing just because of how incredibly different your opinion is compared to most

old bone
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Yeah man

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I dunno

junior dew
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That’s how it be sometimes haha

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snow vessel
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Its just interesting to see someone hate a generally top-rated book

old bone
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I'll make it clear tho.
I wanted to like that book

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Really

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I gave dnf'd it once, and then came back

junior dew
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Cbm it’s top 1 Mistborn, and top 1 Cosmere atm

junior dew
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There are others here who I would say have a vast reading experience, but definitely not me

old bone
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It's just if I hadn't read Stormlight before, and if this trilogy was my entry into Sando,
I would have vowed to never touch his books again

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That's how much I hated my experience with hoa

junior dew
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Mistborn will always have such a special place in my heart for getting me back into reading

snow vessel
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My opinions on Brandon are complicated for that reason

junior dew
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Oh wow that was almost 10 years ago

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snow vessel
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I have and probably will have for a long time a very strong attachment to the cosmere, because it got me into gestures all this. And I do like his books, but there tend to be things I notice that I definitely think are lacking a bit

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Or some things that fall a bit flat

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I'm hoping to do a full cosmere reread sometime soon partially for the sake of re-evaluating it all with a bit more experience (though my reading still isnt expansive)

junior dew
old bone
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One of his books is among my three top 1 books of all time so I am satisfied in this regard

snow vessel
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Is that... WAT?

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Trying to remember which I've seen you talk about

old bone
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WaT, Imajica and One Hundred Years of Solitude

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hea

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yea*

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junior dew
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Not because I have anything against Storygraph mind you. I just… think the UX is very poor

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Gosh I dont even know what my top 3 books are anymore

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Its hard for me to choose less than 5

old bone
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See my problem with Mistborn is it spends less time with characters to focus more on plot

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idc about plot

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I rarely find it engaging anyway

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give me more slowtime with the characters

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Be more self indulgent in that regard

snow vessel
junior dew
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Ooo top 3 books…

The Girl With the Louding Voice and Homegoing are easily both in my top 3 and then it becomes really tough to choose a third. Sword of Kaigen or Children of Ruin would be the two first contenders that come to mind for that third slot

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i like brandon but he's nowhere near top ten

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none of his books are top twenty or even more, perhaps

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also storygraph's ux is my favourite of anything i've seen so far

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everything else is so busy, and i find that poor

old bone
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I enjoyed that part a lot

brazen pilot
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storygraph's interface will work for me once it lets you view the list of books you've read in an actual list, like being able to see 10-20 them on screen at once as you scroll through

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does it have that yet

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ivory cypress
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i read a lot!

snow vessel
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I dont think I have twenty books I'd put in a top 20 😭 At least not without it just getting to being a bunch of one series

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Then read other authors