#Books (General)
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What Stalks the Deep 14 ||I love Fragment
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What Stalks the Deep end ||“Come now, Alex, what are the odds of something else this strange happening in the next week?” But that, as they say, is another story. does that smell of more books???||
Well that's that
Next books on release are all Nov 11th
What 11/11 book are you reading first??
You said there were 4 you wanted all coming out that day, my goodness 😂
The Kingfisher one I linked probably
It'll likely be a 2h read
And SoF will be much longer I expect
SoF after probably
Specially if you all are reading it here 
YES :3
Mmm no libro, I don't think I want to read more fourth wing or sjm...
Yeah haze we promote self care not self detriment 🥰
dont do it
Its not worth it
Part of me is tempted to try Iron Flame but i know I won't enjoy it like I think I will
Honestly, I'm not sure what I'm looking for
-# well, I do know, but a lot of those I already have physically and so don't want to buy again as audiobooks
I feel like you were more confused and lukewarm about the end of FW so I can see why youre all :/
a little late to the party but heres my septemeber wrap up
The ending had a lot more plot and stuff than the rest of the book. And I hadn't been paying much attention to that sooo
I enjoyed the fun middle of FW but I think if it's getting more serious I might not enjoy it as much
I am currently reading Iron Flame, about 40% rn and I am very annoyed with Violet (a rushed read because I checked out Onyx Storm as a lucky read at the library, forgetting that it was book 3. Luckily, IF was available on Libby
My friends tell me the ending of IF is more tolerable if I can immediately go into OS
I also struggled with violet as an mc... I dont think a week goes by without me thinking about (FW) ||Her saying "im proud of my mom protecting our borders" to an orphan... whos parents were murdered BY Violets mom 😂||
My main annoyance is how she's mad at MMC because he's keeping secrets to keep her safe when she's doing the same thing, digging into secrets for his safety
I think that's vague enough but I can spoiler tag
More of a #you-people thought but also IF ||I keep hearing that this series is fantasy smut but it took until the 40% mark for them to bone because of these "why won't you just trust me" fights!!!|| I'd forgive the wait if the plot could support me going until then but ehhhhh
General empyrean ||also the mortality rate at battle college is WAY too high considering their circumstances||
maaaaan
What did you think of black company?
Bury Our Bones 93% ||YESS ALICE LETS GET HER||
||also kinda of weird and funny to see a book I really like irl be mentioned a bunch here xD||
Mmm do I finish this now or tonight
Now
Very well
Bury our bones done
I have Thoughts (positive) but I don't know if I can articulate them now
BOB all ||this is definitely the vampire media that has most made me feel like being a vampire is a curse||
||storms that was sad 😭 ||
same ||it was a lot. Very strong themes and characters imo. They hit||
||the cycle of neverending violence, the concept of the self dying
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Yuuuup
And the last line???
Bury Our Bones ||I think it really all clicked for me with the reveal that Charlotte came to kill Alice in the end||
||Alive. Alive. Alive. And she is hungry.||
Yeeees
Bury Our Bones ||perfectly triumphant and tragic. She got her new life, but nothings really going to change||
Literal chills
Bury Our Bones ||turns out our nice vampire was still ultimately a toxic immortal!||
||mm I really love how much... all the characters just ultimately are or are set up to be morally bad, but we still follow them||
||i realised at the same time as Alice that Lottie was going to kill her and damn, damn||
||Like the ending seems to be setting up Alice just going full vampire with it. Lottie ended up sucking despite everything and Sabine's hunger led her to suck just as much as the people who hurt her. But we still follow them||
||Even the side characters like Matteo. They suck but also we sympathise with them and understand them||
Yes yes
||Feels very real, very human||
||these people just... are given a path to being bad people and no one can really resist it||
I think part of it is ||the book tells us that bits of you die when you're a vampire, leading to the eventual death of the "you", the self. But at the end of the day it could be applied to "immortal human that has to do horrible things to survice"||
||maybe it isn't because they're vampires but simply living so long with the consequences of your actions||
||it very much makes you a separate distinct thing, which is great at first when your human life was... gestures at Maria's everything. But that also means all the human bits start to slip away, and you get a very very easy avenue to becoming worse||
||you're given the freedom and drive to sort of do whatever||
I mean as a sort of simil
Simil?
Like a parallel if you wanted to compare to humans
Ahh sure
||I feel like its very much just... the opportunity to do what you want and the time for it to build to the extreme a little||
Nope
Bury Our bones ||I really feel for Alice. Everything just really sucked for her||
Addie LaRue is the invisible one right?
||i think my fave is toxic Lottie, can't help it||
||Lottie is very fun. Sweet, thinks she's helping, but still toxic. Alice is just... man what a wreck. Alice feels so wrapped up in loss||
||Sabine would be my fave until the very end where she's just a monster tho. ||
Yeah
||Honestly part of me is still drawn to Sabine a little because I enjoy evil people||
A lot of Alice's story was ||"I should have seen that coming"||
||I was so scared Alice was going to run into traffic like Catty did on the last page||
||I love like... how little aftermath the ending gives. Just leaving the implication that Alice is going down the same path and nothing else||
ok now I just need to find more books like that
Yknow, its funny that [bury our bones/the secret history] ||the secret history was Lottie's book given how that has similar "everyone sucks" energy||
Hm. Question is now... what next. Thinking interview with the vampire again, frankenstein again, crime and punishment or midnight tides

Mm yknow maybe I'll reread a little bit of Bury Our Bones... just a few chapters...
Famous last words
Often I'll finish a book and immediately want to reread it tbh
Oh you know who I really liked? ||The og Sabine, I do love that she got devoured but I'd have liked to get to know her a bit more, she seemed so interesting||
Because its like... ok now I want to see how everything fits together, now I know where its going
also ||She's Mrs. "How did your husband die?" "Slowly" Ought to have been such a delightful character 👀 ||
Bury ||I really wonder what she was like. Was she broken and toxic like the others, or was she young enough to still be actually seeking good things and not fully have fallen like that?||
also ||do you think Alice is just going to be Sabine all over again?||
||which sabine? xD||
I don't particularly want a sequel of this book or anything, I think it ends perfectly but damn, I'm curious at the same time you know?
||María-Sabine||
||Sabine 2.0||
Yeah I dont really want a sequel but I think there's a lot of potential for expansion, whether prequel sequel or spinoff
Bury ||Honestly kind of, if maybe in a bit of a... different font I guess||
||maybe more lashing out and destructive compared to Sabine's hunger||
||I think this book makes me giddy in ways I cannot explain||
||Oh! I also love how like... looking at Sabine throughout the book, she feels very consistent yknow? Because there's the whole big moment of her sort of taking control over husbandguy who's name i've forgotten, and then in a lot of her later encounters we see she keeps being in control, controlling, etc.||
It is very well written overall 😩
It's also one of those books were like, I have so many feelings about it that I cannot put into words
I've been having a little trouble lately maintaining my attention on a book outside of right when I'm reading it, but I definitely have a lot of thoughts about this one
It just, conveys so many things at once, and they are all so well woven and also like the characters! And the vampires! and like! You know?
Yes!!
words
Also the prose
OH yes, the prose 
I shouldn't totally immediately reread Bury but...
You should read Schwab's Villain's series 😌
Is that Vicious and the other one?
yep
Ahaha guess what's been on my tbr list all year xD
Vicious general + Bob ||The concepts of morally grey and like, what do you do with what you're given or with the power to do so many more things, etc. It's completely different than Bury Our Bones by miles mind you, but it has a common theme there that I do love on it too||
Ok let me just slide that wayyy up the tbr
Honestly I reckon Bury could easily become a total favourite book for me given some time
I think i like it more the more I think about it
Like I loved it when I finished it but it just gets better the more I mull it over
Yeah I reckon given some time for my feelings to solidify + to think on it more...
Bob End ||I think the end feels like... you need a long breath to process it, felt a bit like a punch in the chest, not like negatively or emotionally but impactful enough?||
||its just such a fascinating story||
||so many ideas i did not expect going into it||
||yeaaaah also like, i didn't want to tell you even though i knew that'd be more compelling because discovering those is so much part of the plot as the plot itself ||
Unrelated, I have found Dark Rise 3 has a sneak peek and idk if i want to do this to myself or not
I thought it was pretty good. The pacing felt a bit odd in places and some of the characters were really boring. But the other characters make up for that by being quite distinct. I came in expecting something super dark, but honestly thought it was more funny than dark. And spoilers: ||by the end of book three I just wanted croaker and the Lady to kiss||
Haha yeah I get that feeling under spoilers.
Which is surprising to me cause romance isn’t usually my thing lol
Overall like 7.5/10
Maybe an eight
What did you think of it?
City of Brass 22 ||Dara you boneheaded idiot, she wants to marry you, not some Daeva nobleman. ||
||she's totally going to find his relic in the catacombs and idk how that's going to turn out||
Shadows Linger is the best of those three, but my faves of the series are at the very very end of the entire series.
And there’s what, like ten of them?
City of Brass 23 ||bro what is assassinating the one member of the royal family who is at all sympathetic to the Shafit meant to accomplish? ||
||also Muntadir is aware his father wants him to marry Nahri but he doesn't want to. He thinks Ali would be a better match but apparently second sons aren't allowed to marry so there's fewer heirs||
City of Brass 25 ||dang girl knows how to haggle ||
||ohhhhhh Dara hasn't heard there's an actual wedding planned now||
City of Brass 25 ||what in Hell just happened?||
Lmao
what is this server's opinion on The Wizard of Earthsea series by Ursula K. LeGuin? imo even though it's middle grade, it is some of the best fantasy ever written.
Love it
Gave me nightmares as a kid so I’ve never liked it
I read it as an adult and it still didn’t stay with me, probably due to the nightmares
Specifically the scene from book 1 where Ged makes his big mistake
Honestly i found it difficult to get through
I read it in like, one sitting, it was my first full full Le Guin book
Oh wait the series as a whole, not just the first one
love it, but not done with it yet
i love it when in the 4th book LeGuin just randomly starts writing a gender studies dissertation /srs
I've only read Tombs of Atuan because I read an excerpt in this collection of Newberry award winners/honorees and thought it sounded interesting, not realizing it was book 2 in a series https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/945061.Newbery_Girls
One of my favorites
Especially since Tombs of Atuan was already about gender in fantasy and the way women were allowed to have power, and then tehanu is her own counterargument against herself saying "Actually, I didn't go far enough last time"
part of my love for LeGuin is her willingness to admit mistakes and revisit complicated topics
Random reminder that Apparently, Sir Cameron Needs to Die is a thing that will exist and we are getting closer to its existance 😌 (I was going over my tbr lol)
I have 1 hour left of City of Brass
I'm sitting tight waiting for the reactions
Oooh, I just checked back in to see where you are and you're right at the end! 🍿
Ok so I borrowed all these Robert Heinlan books impulsively from the Boston public library and I’ve no idea where to start
I haven’t read Heinlan before but I’m aware he’s part of the scifi canon
- time for stars also by him
Hemlock and Silver 8 ||Snow smiling to herself like she knows more than anyone - is she making herself sick for some reason?||
||I love this protagonist and also the king and also his aunt and also the guards and also and also||
children of time 1.1 ||an intriguing set up. a shame that uplifted monkeys won't be met by super ais, though||
children of time 1.2 ||the virus will uplift the spiders, huh. the setup got even cooler||
Hemlock and Silver 14 ||I'd read a whole book of her testing things and learning about the mirror world||
The mc is 
children of time 2.5 ||poor elisa||
That was a very good book
Occasionally had moments where I had no idea in hell what process it was trying to describe (which could just be me being subpar at visualizing things spatially), but they weren't pivotal moments so it's alright lol
H&S all ||I just about teared up at the end when she brought the mirror Sorrel all the colorful bright blankets??||
||I hope Grayling does spend some time with her because if anyone can actually win him over it might be her||
||I loved the dash of body horror that it added. I felt it had a Alice's glass looking world vibe inside the mirror that
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Okay City of Brass up to 29 highlights
||after that argument with Muntadir, Dara tried to escape with Nahri since he no longer believes she's safe in Daevabad. Ali showed up too since he needed to get his wounds looked at, and got dragged along as a hostage. They popped out the other end of the secret escape tunnel to find a bunch of Gaziri soldiers in ships since the Kitanis have known about the tunnel for centuries. Dara was going to surrender but Nahri accidently made a wish for him to be free and he started attacking everyone, killing most of the soldiers, severely injuring Jamshid, and kicking Ali into the lake. The lake's curse was going to kill Ali until it learned Dara was on the boat. It then forced him to give up his true name and then turned him into some kind of water zombie that went back on the boat and killed Dara by removing his ring. He then collapsed and remembers nothing of what happened. When he woke up days later, he was informed of everything and found out he now has strange water powers and is horribly scarred. His family is now fed up with his mistakes and sees him as too dangerous to live, so he's being banished to Gaziri territory where he will most likely be assassinated without the king's protection. ||
City of Brass 29 ||honestly the king's whole story about how much he's had to do to keep Ali from being killed just for being a second son and related to a powerful family was pretty touching, even if he's kind of a bastard. He also explained that the Marid have almost certainly cursed Ali, and assisted in the Kitani overthrow of the Nahids which is very illegal in supernatural politics. How many more secrets do these people have?
Furthermore, I expect that Dara can be revived with his slave ring and/or his relic since that's still in the palace catacombs. No way the hot genie love interest is staying dead.
Oh and from the argument with Dara and the reaction to his injuries, I think Muntadir and Jamshid are secretly in a relationship which is both bizzare and hilarious||
||why would that be bizarre?||
||he's so openly interested in women that it's funny that he's secretly in a gay relationship. Like you wouldn't think of him as someone hiding anything about his sex life||
Had some time to myself, and I’m now at 580 pages on Inheritance. Not much but I’m making progress.
But I’m a little confused ||I thought Umaroth was dead||
||Hmmmmm, I think the fact that he's so obviously flaunting women constantly while also not very interested is kinda telling on its own. to me it was like "yeah that makes way more sense than what I was seeing"
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City of Brass all
City of Brass all ||Nahri is understandably grief-stricken and forced to go along with the king's plans. She has some kind of plans of her own but idk what those are. He also explained that Dara scourged and destroyed an entire city during the Kitani rebellion and that's why he's regarded as a war criminal and what turned the other tribes against the Daeva. Meanwhile in the epilogue, Jamshid and Muntadir are totally gay and Kave knows and is covering for them. Jamshid, Kave, the assistant woman, and presumably many other Daeva are also part of some kind of plot against the king that's moving ahead faster now that the king is cracking down on their tribe. They also know Monaiza is still alive and are in contact with her, which raises a bunch more questions, and they have Dara's ring and are going to take it to her and not tell Nahri about it. ||
Debating if I can afford to buy the next book when I just bought some more modeling stuff and need to buy another new remote for my TV
Could get it on Libby but it will take a few weeks
Holy url batman
[Link](<https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/red-rising_pierce-brown/917103/item/84376570/...>)
Yes
That's the incorrect edition
Link aliasing is the way to go for that
Got it
Thanks
Oooooooooooooooooo see id get it if I didnt already have the ones I have 🤣
I have RR already but I want to anyway XD
I knowwwwwwww maybe I could convince a friend to get this as a gift 🤔
That or the IC broken Bindings.... gosh those are so pretty
-# and it would be nice to have a copy of inheritance with all of its pages
In Harry Potter, does Voldemort unwittingly ||make Harry essentially invincible so long as Voldemort was still alive||? I’m trying to remember. 🤔
||I don't think so? Pretty sure killing Harry does include breaking the horrocrux, but it's been a long time since I read||
Read Honor Harrington. Great scifi, first book is free
In my reread im pretty sure Golden Son is the best RR book
How would you rank all 6?? 👀
I feel like i have a hot take with putting GS as low as I do but its not because I didnt like it, its just MS, DA and LB are all that much better imo
And Golden Son was [redacted] PEAK
Haven't read them in a while tbh and dont remeber LB at all
But off the top of my head GS IG MS RR DA
I didn't buy a single book in the entire month of September and I'm very proud of myself.
I think that, as a reward for showing such restraint, I deserve a treat
The Devils seems to have exponential growth in the crazy stuff that happens. ||Reminds me of an unhinged D&D party.||
Do I spy A Marvelous Light? 👀
We had similar lists
Mhm
I was going through my TBR like "hmm what do I want to buy?" and I saw that one and remembered that you really liked it
mhm
I think you will like it too
it's got nothing to do with Swordcrossed but it has the same vibes?
like level of stakes/intensity/relationship
(though it's a bit more explicit)
Dark Age at the bottom is WILD... do you remember why??? 👀👀
It was 50 pages of amazing and then like 450 pages I had to get through
Also I read dark age like 6 years ago so idk
Yay!
I bought the $50 of books
Keeping a budget and then never spending the money I set aside specifically for spending comes in handy 😌
Oh did we?? Hm, I knew you had taste 🥴
Nice! You deserve a treat, you've been doing great with everything
Ayyyy did you finish then? 👀
I was wondering when you were gonna show up 
Yeah I did
Dunno how long it will be until I can get the next book though
Ooof, that's rough...
You liked it though it sounds like? 👀
I feel like the ending is very intense all at once
I am mad and need to find out what happens next
(Mad as in "how can you end the book like that?")
Time to reread frankenstein
yeah it's written by a Chinese author. it's a really interesting take on scifi. i can't recommend it more. please please please read it. I need more people to fall in love with this series.
(three body problem)
I want to reread it before the Del Toro film releases but ive been moving so HoC so slowly
And not due to me not liking it, I've just had limited reading time
Honestly James biggest reccomendations from me are the children of time series, 3 body problem and the expanse
All 3 are solid pick ups in the science fiction space
1 of my books for exams at school was Frankenstein and I really loved it
I read Frankenstein for the first time earlier this year and really liked it
Wanted to reread it for October + the Del toro film
Exactly
honestly for me Frankenstien is peak sci-fi
i read it, and it kind of ruined the genre
it was so good everything else sucked in comparison
Currently downloading memnoch the devil audiobook
Frankenstein is peak scifi? alright I'll bite. personally I think three body is peak scifi
Frankenstein by Mary shelley yeah? or is there another version?
Yeah Mary Shelley
Peak science fiction is the Hainish Cycle
She somehow managed to fit 2 different books that would both be considered masterpieces alone into it
Both of them are life changing to read
alright I'll read that after Frankenstein
In particular, read The Dispossessed and The Left Hand of Darkness
what flavor or scifi is it?
wait kinda like three body problem. looking at how society reacts to stuff
okay I'm definitely reading le guins stuff
Yes, but in a more… deep? way
I think that’s the wrong word
She is the daughter of an anthropologist and married a historian
ahh interesting
The Left Hand of Darkness is so good!
idk i would say it's anthropological in a society/collective way? 3b is more an eastern take on scifi. How the collective cause and deal with problems. (trying so hard not to spoil)
Rememberance Of Earth's past us great but the writing doesn't approch Le Guin
Also Have you read and Octavia E Bulter?
sadly no. I've been working my way through Asimov atm
She’s on my list! What do you recommend reading?
Well that’s going to take forever, I hope you’re not going for his entire bibliography
Lilith's Brood/Xenogenesis or Parable of the Sower if you want to look outside and be mega depressed
Also Liliths brood has hot aliens
noo just reading robots and the foundation
I found his short stories more approachable and enjoyable tbh
I enjoyed robots and the foundation books
They did get a bit dry by the end
His short stories are stellar though
My favorite is Nightfall, which eventually he turned into a full novel
The Last Question is another great one
Last question and The God's themselves
Anyway aliens from Lilith's Brood
what do you suggest I start with?
The Left Hand of Darkness
same here
IMO her 4 masterpieces are The Left Hand of Darkness, The Dispossessed, The Lathe of Heaven, and Tehanu
should I be careful about spoilers? can I lookup what the books are about or should I go in totally blind
In my opinion spoilers don’t matter for them. You aren’t there to be surprised by plot twists or anything
They are both extremely character and society focused
...I really should've waited longer after Bury Our Bones to start Memoch. I'm really feeling the difference
Left hand of darkness was also delving into trans issues in like the late 60s
Honestly they are also a bit dated now. I love them and they are key moments in science fiction history. But your right his short fiction is where its at
Got it
I really should read more LeGuin. I reread The Lathe of Heaven last year and it's still very good (though it's funny because she wrote it in the 70s and set it in the near future of 2002... some predictions were evergreen)
Also read Frankenstein a few years ago with my book club, first time for me and the monster's parts were my favorite; Victor is not a good person
@low hill starting Lights of Prague because my mood reread via Audio of the Lady Trent series got interrupted by library holds... oh well...
Someone recommended The Blade Itself by Joe Abbercrombie.
Apparently I've read it but completely forgot. I can't rememeber anything about it
I couldn't imagine ever forgetting a character like Sand dan Glokta lol
Have you read the entire series/trilogy or just the Blade Itself?
Just the one book
Absolutely nothing is coming back to me, it's never happened before 😄
TCP 15 + Apothecary Diaries ||If i had a nickle for every time a mc indulged in poisons to build immunities... id have two nickles 😂||
Enjoy. I finished it a couple of days ago, so let me know how you get on.
+MB ||three if you count Zane||
Ngl surprised its only 2
I can count more than 5
Omg youre right 😂
TCP 16 ||Finally, these kids are getting stabbed 😭||
I didn't read the book, nor do I plan to.... but I must ask.... what?
TCP up to 16 ||so there are these freaky fairy kids that have been bullying my girl Jude (and her sister) and there hasnt really been retaliation until now when she finally stabs him. Trust me they all deserve it||
||lowkey I think thats what has been part of my reason for reading so slow. The bullying is a little intense and hit some unfortunate nerves for me 😵💫||
TCP 16 ||I like that i dont trust Locke. Its clear hes not like the other plastics but... theres something about him thats off.... I cant figure it out yet||
TCP 17 ||"Who knows? Maybe a new ruler will make a new crown."
Me, glancing at the third book's title: 👀👀👀👀👀||
I'm so amused you're calling them the plastics 
Im glad, nothing else feels fitting 😂
Not safe for cosmic! TCP all ||waiting for her to reach the coronation 👀 ||
TCP 17 ||Locke's mom wins the best name award. Liriope is so
💖||
Yup
Halfway through TCP 
Didnt mention that before
Should I keep going? I feel like i got super far in one sitting
Book club book finished. Automatic Noodle is fun. Now back to one of the in progress books.
Saw project hail Mary in a store today.... I neeeed ittttttttt
Read along?!?
YES!! after folk of the air we shall see
I think with the way ive sped up I can get done with the trilogy befofe September ends
Cosmic
It’s October 4th
So February or March?
NO 🤣
I promised id get to 20 books this year and I wanna read the book before the movie starts
I am rereading Dungeon Crawler Carl and I am reminded of why I love this series.
I keep devouring these books even with college whooping my butt.
I'm like three chapters into the first book of DCC and... I am wondering if I should keep going if I'm not really enjoying it yet
Like, if I'm not really a fan of the premise, should I keep going because the rest of it is going to be good for other reasons like the plot or characters are really going to be worth it?
hmmm I really like that it has heart despite the absurdity of the world, and teh characters are a big part of that
three chapters may be a little brief but you probably don't need to read too too much if you're not enjoying it
I'd probably focus more on the story & tone? The main standout character of the story is the AI running the show, there are other solid characters but I wouldn't say they make or break the book
it's also something that's definitely elevated by the audio performance
Yeah, I think when (DCC general) ||Donut starts speaking|| is a pivot point because then you've got at least another character chirping up about everything
Huh, I wouldn’t say the AI is the standout for me at all. Donut, Katja, and Carl are the big ones for me. Plus I love the bigger thematic things and statements Dinniman is making, but that comes out more in later books.
I think they're all reasonably likeable characters, just kind of vanilla archetypes? The AI's a little more dynamic to me
TCP 17 ||Viv absolutely clocked Judes tea with "you arent saving mom with this. Shes dead" is crazy 😭 leave it to viv to always speak her truth, I love her||
I believe that DCC is a very, very, veeery divisive series. Either you don't care about it and think it's just meh, or it's an instant love at first sight.
If the premise isn't interesting, of reading about the dungeon crawling and all of that, then I think you will find it miserable at best.
It has a lot of great characters, but they are inevitably in the universe.
I LOVE THE AI
(A sentence I would only say in this context)
I am doing the audiobook because it was specifically recommended and I do think the performance is good, but the setting being (Dungeon Crawler Carl) ||"it's like a video game but it's real life and both wacky and scary at the same time" is just not really my taste. I think a little bit of that kind of premise goes a long way. Like, I was never into Ready Player One or things like that. Dungeon Meshi sort of does a little bit of this but it's more subtle.||
DCC ||"What if a video game was real life" is not a very interesting question to me and I'm wondering how long this book is going to be just that and if it's worth waiting it out for it to become something more than that. And if it does become more than that, am I going to like what it becomes more than I like what it is now?||
Hmm
Personally I love DCC, but if you do not enjoy the premise, I could see how it could be a drag. Same with the humor. I personally like it, but I could see how someone could be unimpressed.
Although for me, the highlight is the reality show aspect.
I especially love the various talkshow interviews
DCC || It does pick up as it digs into the themes. It was very much Covid era let's have fun with tropes literature but it does evolve into more of a story about found family and fighting the man. The tone does not change even as the characters (mostly) get more depth.
But that develops over several books and if the tropes and AI shenanigans don't click then I don't think it will work as well.
It has other problems too but I think that is the biggest barrier to getting into it.||
DCC ||It does start to change in this book but really only towards the end and the next book I think you start to see the real overarching story play out||
Personally I really love that series because I read it when I was in the hospital. It was there for me during a really tough time, so despite its flaws, I will always treasure it.
What I find most astonishing is that Dinniman is apparently a pantser, not a planner because his later books do a very good job of tying to things from earlier
I think at some point he figured out where he wanted things to go and he had enough open ended unplanned things up front he could plausibly tie them together and started being a bit more intentional. He also wrote in quick succession for a while so I think he carried a lot more continuity in his head from book to book.
I am more interested in his new book coming out next year as it seems to be in a similar vein so I'd like to know how it isn't going to just be the same story all over again.
Also less thrilled he has two Kickstarter/backerkits this month. I backed the comic but may skip the special editions of DCC 2&3. I backed the first before he had a trad publishing deal and have been buying those as they have come out.
DCC series general || The overall story is a lot less "we need to beat the video game" and a lot more "we are being exploited and murdered for profit and entertainment and we need to violently fight back by any means necessary". However, while this is present from book 1, it only really starts coming to the forefront in book 3, and really becomes the main focus starting in book 5. ||
DCC series general || Also the series generally leans less into videogame elements and more into the reality show elements as it goes on, plus the world outside the game becomes a lot more relevant as you get further in. There is a lot more to the series than just "videogame but in real life" and it has a lot big emotional moments but it takes a while to get there. I'd give it more of a try than chapter 3 but while I think the series gets a lot of better it remains pretty wacky so if you're not clicking with it maybe dropping it is for the best. It is a very hit or miss series.||
DCC 1 ||I've only read book 1 but for book 1 I'd recommend until the first boss fight, it won't change much from that point||
||at that point I think it's fair to say that you've seen all that book 1 has to offer||
Memnoch the devil 1 ||so lestat is being stalked... interesting. If I had a nickel for every VC book that started with lestat being followed by someone mysterious, I'd have at least two nickels||
||I kind of love the dynamic between lestat and David. Lestat has sooo much nonsense to say and David tries so hard to keep him on track||
||god imagine getting personally stalked by (presumably) the devil||
||I do like that armand is being mentioned again. Hopefully he shows up||
Inheritance. Best scene ever? ||Galbatorix saying the words of vanquishing the citadel and the events after it||
I’m at 725 pages, and I cannot stop. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS!!
Ooooooo!!!
Oh my god, i was going over my tbr, and I saw I had this Freya Marske book on my tbr and I thought "hmmm I should get that"
and i look it up and I can't find it and then I finally find it and it's not out yet
it releases in... 30h 
pure coincidence
Welp, I couldn’t stop reading the rest of Inheritance. And let me tell you, ||I was literally screaming into the void for how it ended, both good but WHHHY!|| I did manage to finish it.
DCC general ||I would say it's already at the forefront from book one, but it gets more visceral and obvious as the series goes on. ||
And I got to say, it's so strange to me when people say that DCC is just "life is like a video game" story. Maybe it's because I read a metric tonne of trash tier LitRPGs and isekai but it was instantly obvious to me that this story was more than that.
DCC 1 all ||every subplot and arc in book 1 feeds into the theme of exploitation for profit, hard. the first boss, everything about goblins (from the room where Carl and Donut explode a bunch of their children, to the way they are manipulated by the Syndicate with drugs and stuff), the whole thing with bathrooms, the elderly care people and residents, frank and maggie plot. ||
Yeah, thinking it about it more, you're right
it's also very...
american humor about it
it's like South Park litrpg
so I feel that can dilute the message because people might chalk it up to the book just trying to be edgy or something
or that it's going to be too frivolous with its topics
RR 25 ||Is Ares Noral? Rhetorical||
The other thing about DCC and, Matt spoke about this in SLC last year, is that he somewhat regrets how heavy the lit RPG detail stuff was up front. It loses granularity pretty quick in the subsequent books because this is not a power leveling story it's the gamification/commiditization of suffering that he really is poking at.
@low hill Lights of Prague ||Oh boy these two. Domek, shes not trying to kill you. Ora, he isn’t either, only reason he’s reacting like this is training.||
Hehe.
Finally finishing up Legend of the Condor Heroes
Lotus loves him even though he’s a blockhead 😭
He is learning to sweet talk
Finished the first Harry Potter. Was pretty good. I really appreciate how every single adult at that school is completely incompetent at keeping students safe, it is the funniest thing to me XD.
HP1 ||"Oh, let's put a three headed Cerberus that could tear any human apart in seconds by a wooden door with a lock that can be charmed open by a first year. Oh, and let's have them practice flying broomsticks for the first time with no cushioning or spells to catch them while falling so they break their wrists."
||
Any guesses on who will be the Noble Laureate for literature this year?
I’m hoping for Anne Carson (again) but people seem to think Murakami or Pynchon or maybe Can Xue
You guys read books released in the last decade?
Or a whole bunch of other more literary names I’m not familiar with
It’s a lifetime achievement award, the author has usually been publishing for decades
Thomas Pynchon started writing in the 1960s (and has refused to appear in public the whole time)
Are you seriously not familiar with the Nobel Prize or are you messing with me?
I keep forgetting Pynchon is still alive.
I think one of my classes has Gravity's Rainbow this semester
They’re going to bury him in an open casket with a paper bag over his head like his simpson’s cameo
These wings are V-licious
I honestly didn't know how to react to The Crying of Lot 49 despite thinking the classes on it being interesting.
Its just such a weird book
It’s so good!!! It was my bookstore rec for years and it sold shockingly well
Huh
I should perhaps reread it. I didn't get to finish
But it also isn't the most me book out there
I think because when you hear a book described as “Oedipas Maas was appointed executrix of her estranged ex boyfriend’s will and begins to untangle a conspiracy theory that may or may not exist. Full of 1960s references, and so deeply strange that the fact her therapist is an ex Nazi dosing her with LSD isn’t even a plot point, this book is many things but isn’t boring” works as a great pitch on a card below a stack of them for 30% off
No I bet it isn’t
I read it in high school because I’d been talking to someone about how much I liked X Files and he said you should watch Twin Peaks, so I did and told him I really liked it, so he handed me this book and said it was very similar
yeah true
Which is true! (twin peaks + Lot 49) ||for both of them- You never get a resolution for what’s going on! Is it real? Is it sort of real? What will happen? The story just ends!||
I never actually have watched twin peaks
It’s deeply influencial to the history of tv. Esp. Genre tv
Oh I know
It’s also really good & it’s got a great aesthetic, so if it’s time and Pacific Northwest
And the actors are so pretty. But it deals with some deeply awful, upsetting stuff and it’s so damn bizarre it’s hard to reccomend
Like many Pynchon novels
My book club was trying something a bit different this time and we read A wizard's Guide to Defensive Baking and A Dragon Rider's Guide to Retirement. The first was a bit more serious than expected and the second was less. Both were good reads though.
A Wizard's Guide is one of my favorite books!
note that I have already read these and am just looking to own the audiobook
I had to go look up the term "litrpg" but I was immediately like, oh yeah, that's the part I don't really like. I didn't know this was a genre...
DCC ||I guess it's good to know that maybe those gameified elements don't stick around as prominently, because that was kind of what killed my interest. I don't really think I'd like reading about people leveling up, gaining XP, getting loot boxes and silly achievements.||
if there was one person I would have thought would know what litrpg was, it'd be you feather
my worldview is shattered
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly I've probably heard the term before but I would have assumed it was the other way around
Like it's a TTRPG that has more literary elements in its mechanics, not that it's a work of literature with rpg elements in the story
I know what litrpg is so I can stay away 
Fighting Fantasy 😌
I've been working through T Kingfisher's old works, finally checking some boxes
and imo it's not as good as her new stuff, but interesting to see a lot of the same threads
it's still so HER
I did Minor Mage (it was okay), Illuminations (good, I liked this one), now I'm on Summer in Orcus
Jackalope Wives will be after this
idk if I know the toad anthology
I forgot the name I'll look it up in a bit
tbh every time I go over her books I find there's something else that went through my radar
my most recent addition was Summer in Orcus
damn I don't think I have that one
Illuminations I kinda ignored because it didn't seem my thing 👀
I paint enough that I was like, ooooh
tbh it felt very much more in line with my experience as an artist than shallan
Shallan's experience as an artist isn't... idk, yeah lol
I don't paint nowadays but I have for years
T. Kingfisher has so many books out
And tbf I've liked them all
but as Grey said some are certainly way worse than her more modern stuff
I think the one I liked least was Bryony and Roses
but I still somewhat enjoyed it
and like
I think What Stalks the Deep is... on a writing level quite better than the previous 2 already, and you know I LOVE What Moves the Dead
I think I still like the 1st most of all 3 but I think the writing is just... 
and Alex is written so much better imo
I love 👏 a creeping sense of unease 👏 that threatens to turn into alarm at every moment 👏
I am so looking forward to Snake Eater
yeeee
I'm assuming due to the channel that this is refers to something completely different but this is all I can think of 
I believe it is the same with everyone that is even vaguely familiar with MGS
Snake Eater
When Selena travels to the remote desert town of Quartz Creek in search of her estranged Aunt Amelia, she is desperate and short of options. Fleeing an unhappy marriage, she has exactly twenty-seven dollars to her name, and her only friend in the world is her dog, Copper.
On arrival, Selena learns Amelia is dead. But the inhabitants of Quartz Creek are only too happy to have a new resident. Out of money and ideas, Selena sees no harm staying in her aunt’s lovely house for a few weeks, tending to her garden and enjoying the strange, desolate beauty of the desert. The people are odd, but friendly, and eager to help Selena settle into her new home.
But Quartz Creek’s inhabitants share their town with others, old gods and spirits whose claim to the land long predates their human neighbours. Selena finds herself pursued by disturbing apparitions, visitations that come in the night and seem to want something from her.
Aunt Amelia owed a debt. Now her god has come to collect.
Spooky supernatural debts? That sounds like the perfect cover story to hide the development of a Metal Gear. I hope you enjoy this strange adaptation!
@low hill I finished
I enjoyed it quite a bit
Interesting take on the creatures for sure.
I liked the characters.
And the end was nice.
It feels very different stylistically
Yeah.
Chat help me pick 🙏
Both
😭
(Tainted Cup has a cooler cover)
Will of the many
Tainted Cup
Tainted Cup
Tainted cup!!!!!!
tainted cup
recency bias 🙄
Tainted cup came out 20 months ago what are you talking about
tbh I see where the appeal in will of the many is but I found it kinda meh so I would lean tainted cup lol
the sequel is recent
It released 6 months ago
is that not recent
It is, and it's expected for people to have a more positive opinion of book 1 if book 2 is good too
Multiple people in the channel have been very high on tainted cup since well before the sequel released
not to mention there are lots of good book 1's with bad sequels <_< imo recommending based on what's out now is a good plan
when other books come out then judge the series then
I think you're taking this a bit too seriously, I thought using a silly emoji made it clear I wasn't that serious
IDK about anyone else, but 🙄 comes across as a more serious representation of feeling
if you're gonna annoy others be funnier
Damnn
Queen slay 💅
The roll your eyes emoji in particular? Because it's obvious your message is meant to be less serious if you use emojis, barely anyone uses them in serious texts
discord itself is "less serious text"
most internet "speech" isn't formal writing
it's casual, and we need tone markers
for a lot of people, first emoticons, and now emoji, fill that gap
so unless I can tell someone is being ironic/sarcastic (always a dangerous guessing game without voice tone), I'm going to read the emotion straight
to me the eyeroll comes off as condescending
(and that's how I intentionally use it
)
The Shadow of What Was Lost has a lot of || Person 1 gives character a mission, for the greater good of people, Person 2 comes in and proves/says that Person 1 was lying and does bad stuff. || I expect more of these in the future lol
Lost my hold on Castle In The Air before I was even halfway through it 😔
I'm behind on my yearly goal again
Yeah there is a way to handle it with (quite) a bit more subtlety.
Orconomics I think tackles similar themes while being a more satire than parody by addressing the TTRPG/fantasy tropes but not making it about the mechanics of it all. It's very good and not LitRPG but also has TTRPG vibes structurally without needing to quite literally do a voiceover.
Wow I am alone
I decided to vote upon reading this and by pure chance you're no longer alone 
Solidarity!! 
I had a really big burst of reading 2 days ago, so im a wee bit more than halfway now! Didnt read today because I was sleeping off a 6 am flight 😭
I didn't know... Guess I know what I'm reading next 
Damn, Victoria Schwab's books get more and more messed up the more she writes heh
I think she would argue (and indeed does) that she has stopped caring so much about what other people (her publishers) think about what she's writing. ;)
Yes! (Highly)
Though I think I've gotten to a point where I could tell it's her if you have me one of her books as anonymous
Cause like, they all just have this... thing to them
Schwab all ||Invisible Life of Addie LaRue and Bury Our Bones have a very similar tone||
Both end in different messed up ways heh
I think none of her books attempt a happily-ever-after
The wheel keeps turning and many of her characters don't get out of it by the end of her books
A Darker Shade of Magic mostly does
I think most idealistic ones she has are Shafes of Magic
It's also the one I like best I think
I haven't touched the sequel series yet. Waiting to see if 1. It gets finished, 2. It gets finished in a slightly less messed up way
I think it will likely not be very messed up? But who knows
I want her to finish the Villains series too
I think, Shades of Magic trilogy all ||despite having a more idealistic ending it still has quite a few bitter touches||
I'm pretty sure it is?
Ehhhhh
I think writing a 3rd book was dismissed and all put into book 2
I remember reading somewhere that she wanted a final book
Did you read it?
I've read book 1 and 2, and the spinoffs yeah
Mhm
I think I've done her entire bibliography by now
So I felt that was conclusive 🤔
I'm still missing some stuff
I read Gallant recently, was fun
I wanted to read Monsters of Verity and The Archived
Cassidy Blake sounds fun but it also says middle grade so I'll see if i feel like it eventually
It's a spin off of Villains and has much the same characters
Which?
Oh wait Villains/Cassidy ||I think I got Cassidy and Sydney confused||
||Which just goes to show that they are similar heh||
But honestly, book "age" genres make very little sense
She's talked about a third Villains book recently, I think, yes.
Yeah I remember it being some time after book 2 was out
Yeah, but I mean in the last year or so. :)
That counts
Must be recent cause I found nothing about it when i looked it up when i was reading it
Which was what... last year?
I think Villains might be my favourite by her
I love things in Shades of Magic more, but in isolation, I think as a whole I prefer Villains
Though Bury Our Bones is clawing its way up just by existing in my head
I’m likely going to finish Project Hail Mary in only a few days. It’s such a page turner
I get Schwab’s newsletter and she’s finished the first draft of the third Villains book. I think she’s shooting for later next year?
See. I know what I'm talking about... >_>
Wouldn't expect otherwise...
-# When you remember
Villains all ||isn't Eli dead tho?||
Do I need another copy of Dracula? No.
Do I want another copy of Dracula? Yes.
Am I going to buy a deluxe edition? Obviously.
Ive gotten so close to buying another dracula a few times lately
Don't have the money/space really for it right now, unfortunately
-# well, I do, but its probably better spent on other things
Which audiobook do I get?
11
22
1
Spicy gay wizard cowboys
🤠
Jokes on all of you. I have no impulse control and got Bury Your Gays anyway
RR 26 ||Bosombutthead?||
I am behind on my TBR, as usual.
Im half way through Project Hail Mary, ||my guess is that Rocky is a child, at least not a scientist. ||
I was reading some other completely unrelated book and suddenly Lions of Al-Rassan all ||the scene of the duel at the end just intrusively popped into my mind and now I'm sad? Wtf brain 😭 ||
Reading Vanya and the Wild Hunt, a new children’s novel
feeling the urge to reread something but idk what
it's like the equivalent urge of going to the kitchen to look for food when you're not REALLY hungry but you want something specific maybe but nothing sounds good
Hey who let this new kid’s book call me out like this
YES BIG MOOD
"I want something comfortable but not this and not this and idk I could read that but is it what I'm looking for...what am I looking for???"
and then I never choose anything because decision paralysis 😭
Luckily this doesn't generally last long for me, 5-10 minutes at times. Sometimes I'll pick something sometimes I'll get distracted with something else
Like I’m feeling the urge to wanting to read dragon rider books since Eragon, but I want something very specific, like a female protagonist who can ride dragons (and yes I read Fourth Wing, and no it hasn’t satisfied that urge)
mhmm, you could try going old school with Pern?
Oh I already have
I have a male protagonist with a female author if that works?
Daindreth’s Assassin ||Thadred, even Amira can beat you in a skirt||
Don’t worry, this urge will go away with time. I just to find other books that can take over
Male protag with female author does not satisfy Shallan
Daindreth’s Assassin ||he’s smitten||
That or make a story about a female dragon rider protagonist
What about Mercedes Lackey’s Dragon Jousters series
Although I think the lead is male actually. Ancient Egypt style setting tho so that’s fun https://www.goodreads.com/series/40366-dragon-jousters
Hmm. I’ll take a look.
There’s also Dragon Slippers, a kid’s novel
And if you want a good kid’s book about a girl just hanging out with a dragon, Dealing With Dragons by Patricia Wrede
It’s about a princess who runs away to live with a dragon in a cave because she’s tired of being a princess. She’s constantly turning away knights who try to rescue her and melting nosy wizards with soapy lemon water
There's also "The Last Dragon", kids/ya
I don't think any of them are large enough to be ridden, but they are dragons
👀👀👀
Temeraire my beloved large socialist cat of a dragon
Honestly, dragons are just oversized cats
I should get my dad those for his birthday. I bet he’d like them.
Oh!
I have one! The Ninth Rain, by Jen Williams!
The dragon only appears right at the end of the first book, but it's a trilogy, and the female protagonist does ride the dragon, with promise of much more dragon-riding to come in the rest of the trilogy (The Bitter Twins and The Poison Song)
Although he’s not a Napoleonic Wars buff
Speaking of (pseudo)historical fiction, I should find some about Edward III
Temeraire is basically Toothless if you think about it
I’ll take a look. It sounds rather promising
Considering that Naomi Novik famously writers fanfiction it is possible that Temeraire is literally Toothless
I know the series started as Master and Commander fanfic before she admitted this was basically different enough to make into a new novel series
One of the major antagonists from my story is basically evil Harry Potter.
A very specific evil Harry Potter, though, so I doubt anyone would recognise him.
That’s ok, it’s what JK deserves
Temeraire came out 4 years earlier
Maybe it’s the other way around then
Or maybe it’s just that everyone agrees that friendly dragons would be feline
Memnoch the devil 4 ||we better not be spending this whole 1.5 hour chapter on Roger's life story...||
Finished Project Hail Mary today, simply amazing.
Then I wathced the movie trailer and it's not as I imagined it in my head
There's always Skyward, I think girl with dragon was the premise he built upon 
Ok so The Cat Who Walked Through Walls by Heinlan SUCKED
just so bad
Who let him publish that dreck
Project Hail Mary finished ||Around chapter 35ish, Grace used the 3d printer to make a structural model of the Hail Mary for Rocky to use in the design of supporting struts.
They were docked and at 0g at the time.
However, earlier in the book when Rocky first boarded the Hail Mary and took an interest in the 3d printer, Grace said it wouldnt work in 0g. What have I missed?||
Welp, this is a problem. Just started Daindreth’s Assassin and 70 pages in, and I’m hooked. And this is meant to be a break read as I also read The Fork, The Witch, and The Worm.
I’m between a rock and a hard place
I intended Project Hail Mary to be a Sanderson cooldown but finished it in 2 days
I love doing books as break of other books and then just readng them in 1 day
(that's my perpetual state)
I remember reading The Martian in 2 days, that was unexpected
I guess Weir is just like that
Read all of Im glad my mother died yesterday, it was amazing5/5
That statement thinking I was in another channel hit different lol
Harry Potter 2 ||More magic, more fun wizarding stuff. She does a really good job at having a lot of casual humor with 'What? You've never heard of a garden gnome? Or a flying car, what a weirdo!' I liked that we got to see more of the castle and some other characters getting some time. One of the things I disliked was how everything is such a mystery, but you can't really piece it together yourself. Most of the information for revelations is just straight up telling you the moment they give a hint. You'd never be able to piece together that Ginny was the one possessed, or that Hagrid didn't open the chamber. Also, Hagrid: maybe next time don't send children to a giant evil spider just because she likes you? Only for her to basically say stuff that Dumbledore could've explained? Which brings me my next point: the humor in this book is hilarious. The adults are so incompetent and terrible that it doesn't even come to unrealistic and plot breaks, just funny. I just assume wizards and witches are so extremely reliant on magic that they just lose all basic common sense because of it. I will admit the ending being basically deus ex machina takes away a lot from Harry's character. It is the same in the first one where he feels like he is stupidly lucky rather than doing stuff on his own, but at the very least he does something in this ending. The 'memory of Tom Riddle' felt SUPER forced though, even in this universe. Like, was he really so evil at Hogwarts he was able to use evil magic to store a clone of himself? Why don't more people use it? I'm probably overthinking it but I feel it is a valid question LOL. Overall I enjoyed it though, and also Molly Weasely is still the best and only competent adult figure in this entire wizarding world.||
Oh this is 100% a series that cannot be questioned or thought about too deeply or it begins to fall apart instantly
Origin behind a lot of the comments Mike Schubert made when he did Potterless.
Which is why even before Rowling began to be a horrible person I didn’t understand why so many adults where still so adamant it was rhr best book series ever and made it their whole personality
As a former potter head, I have nostalgia cause I read it when I was between 6-9 but when I read it again on 2020 at 17 it was....interesting. Now I often forget about them
I prefer PJO anyways
because a lot of people think the thing that they read as a kid which is their first experience with xyz tropes is the best form of it ever
Everyone does this all the time with many things, nothing special about HP except that it was more popular than other franchises for a long time
I think the movies being such an event™ was part of it, too
Also almost everyone loves things that aren't very good and, a lot of those people do consider those things the best because a lot of people consider "liking something" = "a good thing", which is fine, a different way to analyse things but 
In other news, I am reading how to lose a time war, I love it. I dont understand anything about the time war, but the banter and the yearning are amazing
I also think an independently operating setting is sort of sales point in "modern" fantasy and HP doesn't care to engage with that at all (until later on when continued monetization became a factor). HP's setting exists explicitly to tell this specific story
Its why when Rowling (and King) insists she's not a fantasy writer, part of me takes her at her word on that. She's not interested in or engaging with many of modern fantasy genre conventions at all (and neither is King, except kind of Dark Tower)
I think many people who read HP and called it their favorite ever did not read many books
HP broke contain in a singular way
many people who read HP and called it their favorite ever did not read many books
just as a consequence of how popular it was
that's true for many large franchises, including the Cosmere
The other day I was on a dating app and someone's answer to the prompt "I'll brag about you to my friends if..." was "You've read Harry Potter"
And like ????
Every person our age has
also not quite a selling point nowadays 
one of my key turnoff phrases is "I've never read anything like this before!"
unless I know for a fact that you read a ton, 9/10 times this phrase says to me, oh they're new to reading...
"glad they're getting into it again"
I had this moment the other day with my friends where someone was talking about this concept for this book he's writing and everyone else except me and a friend's partner were like "oh that's so original I've never read anything like that before" and the guy was like "huh?"
(I was internally huh-ing but chose to say nothing cause you don't need to go "oh no he's not original" to the guy, which tbf what he said can turn into a very original story but the concept isn't unique in isolation!)
Authors, eh...?
the guy in question wasn't claiming it was an original concept at all
(he does read a bunch of fantasy!)
Idk if other writers are like this but when I explain an idea and someone says "Oh they did that in this other book XXX" I'm usually like oh neat I wonder how they did that, or maybe neat this idea did land for some people
I think it's fine on like a more personal level, and if you know the person to go "oh this reminds me of X"
But I felt kinda trashy to contradict the person saying "that's original" with "no it isn't" in front of a whole group of people that half of them don't even read
and he didn't ask for our opinion at all (which makes a huge difference in whether I'd give my opinion on what someone has created or not)

The worldbuilding for Harry Potter is certainly not consistent but it is genuinely fairly high quality for middle school/ YA, and that’s when a lot of people stop reading
I think HP has also a massive self insert component
Like I read LotR before I read HP and I loved it and it was fantastic on every sense
but in HP when you read it as a kid you feel you could be part of it, right? It makes you immerse in the world differently
Probably similar thing to some other series that are on the same style
Like I imagine other people felt like this when reading PJ as a child for example
This isn't a necessary component to enjoy a book or to consider a book good (obviously) but I think it does something different to a child's mind
Honestly I think a lot of it is also like, it's an easy book to recommend for kids to get them more into reading. Getting non-readers to read was a big component to its success/popularity. And even among parents who hate JKR, it's like if this is the book that gets my kid reading then 🤷
It is also very easy reading yeah
And there's some things it sets out to do and it does them very well imo
Does it do everything else remotely good? Nope but alas
It takes you on an adventure
My parents both read HP when I was a kid after I read them and their general opinion was "highly entertaining, trash writing" (they both read a lot)
for my nephews and niece it was a starting point where they read the first book or two, and then branch out into other books they like after that
I think if I were to try and introduce kids to fantasy I’d go with the Bartimaeus books
I agree HP is a decent way to get kids to read some more but. On a moral ground I’d rather not
I guess realistically I could probably find older publication editions in my childhood home somewhere that could be read without financially supporting Rowling these days
But I think Bartimaeus just offers a bit more like. Substance for a foundational series
I only read Earthsea for the first time a few years ago and I’d probably see if a kid liked those too
Bartimaeus is great
I loved Earthsea as a kid, one of the first fantasy series I read, back in like 2nd grade
Can’t go wrong with Le Guin
Idk much about the book versions of those dog man/ captain underpants books.
Magic Tree House was peak
I don’t particularly enjoy the other media attached to it. But if I’m keeping my authors straight I think the author is pretty rad morally
Yeah I'd not give HP to kids nowadays, plenty of other books out there to get children to read lol
I loved the Emily Windsnap books, School for Good and Evil and Land of Stories at that age.
Percy Jackson too
Narnia is probably still pretty cool
I adore Narnia
I stopped at the silver chair and I haven’t finished the series
The latter two hold up particularly well to more modern readings of it. Though LoS is definitely more formulaeic but that's because its meant to follow the structure of a fairy tale.
I'm so-so about Narnia
But there was a big big moment in my childhood for Narnia
Yeah I feel like that's the elephant in the room that goes without saying.
My mother brought me back a full cast audiobook of the whole series on CDs from London one time. I played those discs until they were unusable
Riordans ability to learn from his mistakes is admirable. The books can be hit or miss if I’m coming from a critical position but I’ll give the guy points for using his platform to help lesser known diverse authorship to the forefront
But in reality I am too biased to be judgmental of PJO
I later found out the company that made them is horrible, but I can’t bring myself to stop listening because they were such a massive part of my childhood. They were probably the primary reason I love fantasy so much
I haven’t looked into it since the trials of Apollo but I found them a really fun read
Also a vastly improved experience audio book wise those Apollo books were
They were always good, but he just kept improving and I definitely agree that him just learning and bringing in more diversity is definitely admirable.
I was so obsessed with Percy Jackson I forced myself to read the Illiad in 1st grade just because it was mentioned
Yeah I've heard the audio is famously bad.
I also tried to read the Iliad
I failed
Its the whole Jia joke from Newest Olympian.
I spent the whole summer reading and hated every second, but I did finish it
I need to actually read the WIlson translation one day. Literature student that hasn't read either the Iliad or the Odessey is a bit embarassing. Of course I know the stories, I just haven't actually read them. I have read sections of the Aeniad though.
In those OG versions of those Percy Jackson audiobooks that was
Wild.
Accents are a tight rope even for the most skilled narrators imo. But Jesse Bernstein Jesus
Anyway, I actually need to sleep now because I have a 9am tomorrow, and being a bit sick hasn't helped for. that.
Ethan Nakamura was
Horrifying
Good night Cheyenne
I listened to the books again during my early days using Audible and they got rid of all those accents at some point between the original release and 2020
Night!
I can’t believe I’m complaining about 9ams when I had 7s most of my life and back home I’d have 8s pretty regularly.
Anything before 11am is a war crime
Truth
Though, working night shift has irreparably ruined the very concept of the time 9am for me so
I may be biased.
I should give it another shot
I was in such a classical era when I did those sorts of books
I wonder what I'd think now
I attempted the Iliad
I read the odyssey and loved it
Loved 20k leagues under the sea
I just don’t like reading epic poetry
I really dug Beowulf too
I went through a huge Jules Verne phase
I loved Treasure Island too
I worked my way through most of his bibliography, then stopped because I could not get through Around the Moon. It was sooooo boring
Read some Sherlock Holmes once upon a time
I read a bunch of Sherlock Holmes
Those penguin collections at Barnes and noble were my jam growing up
Tried reading Moby dick
I read some Verne and I was... fine with it
I do quite enjoy that kinda stuff
I was not very interested in the economics of the whaling industry I’m sorry Herman
even if I'm fully unfamiliar with it
anything that's not making me look into sports generally
So you didn’t read quidditch through the ages
You didn’t miss anything trust me usha
The Mysterious Island is what got me into historical fiction
I read common sense by Thomas Paine in 8th grade
Couldn’t tell ya nothing about it these days lol
Fun fact: his house is now a gay piano bar that plays show tunes. Really fun time
Thomas paine?
Yeah
sick
In nyc
That’s the coolest thing Thomas paines ever been attached to then
I never read another Verne novel
Giant squids were a special interest for tiny child Thorn
Around the World in 80 days, 20k leagues, and The Mysterious Island are my favorites
Plus the Nautilus is just one of those Great fictional machines
I was obsessed with mythology as a child (thus the Illiad among others)
Big time
The Mysterious Island bug spoilers ||Nemo and the Nautilus even show up at the end||
I had dragonology and pirateology
I had those too
And wizardology
And I had the Inheritance one of those that came out too
I had the dragonology board game, it was pretty fun
Oh guide to alagaesia was just a similar kind of book done by Paolini
Lol probably should have known
Homage the best and homage well that’s how my brain has come to feel about ol Paolini
I’ll never forget the multiple times in my first read through of Wheel of Time where I was like…”huh. So that’s where that comes from in Inheritance”
Stranger in a Strange Land is so good
If it wasn’t for the clear similarities in narrative voice, in the thing about spanking women which they all take in amused stride and in the paternalistic misogyny I would not believe they were by the same author
And he wrote The Cat Who Walked Through Walls later
Robert, what happened??? Did your editor die???
Narnia was probably elementary school for me.
Frankenstein all ||it's funny how good Victor is at blaming things beyond his control for his situation||
Don’t worry though, during the (spoilers) ||Martian sex cult orgies, only the women are together. The men are Not Touching or having sex because that would be gay and Heinlans libertarianism can only bend so much||
Libraries are good for this too 🙂
Also that
Ugh I need to reorganize my bookshelf.
What about second bookshelf?
I have to reorganise my bookshelf as well. But I’m waiting for installation of another shelf
I haven’t. I tried starting on book 4 multiple times as a kid for some reason (I guess my mindset was that I had already watched the prior movies). Loved the HP movies and games as a kid. Had the books. Just never ended up reading those in particular really for some reason
And then as an adult it has always been a hard pass for me because of Rowling. These days I won’t touch anything HP with a ten foot pole
Nice! I just finished the following book! Definitely good stuff!
The Fork, the Witch and the Worm, and I’m at 83 pages
That’s the inheritance anthology is it not
Almost done Frankenstein. Question is, what next?
Probably dracula or midnight tides
Dracula would be a reread
I have Carmilla on my list but dont have a copy of it on-hand right now
Although I might be able to pick up a copy tomorrow... we'll see
It’s on Project Gutenberg
Fully public domain story, available wherever you get your ebooks and also on Wikimedia
I have finally obtained a copy of The Will of the Many!
Right on time to finish it before the Strength of the Few!
I will feast on the reactions
WotM 2 ||There are no druids, anymore
I wanna know MOOOOORE
That's not enough information!||
||yes hes my beautiful crashout son 🥰||
Atrus has started WotM👀
I know 👀👀👀
WotM 1 ||Hold up, what's going on there? Hrolf just has a really short-term memory? Or is something causing him to randomly forget things in real time? That alone makes me the most curious.||
Yes, I've started WotM too 😁 I just hope I'll be able to finish it before my loan expires.
14 days? Or 21 ?
21
Niiice
Which still might not be enough with how scatterbrained and/or busy I can be.
True true.... I borrowed Memories of Ice like four times (I was the only one borrowing , I'm not evil)
This is a reread
I read it in like March already
Ooooh for SotF?
Do it for my son 
Your crashout bisexual son.
...Cosmic if you have a son and he isn't a crashout (bisexuality optional but encouraged) you will have failed as a parent. 😔
Tbh it would be really funny, albeit stressful (the crashout part, not the bisexual part) 😂
WotM 12 ||They drew blood from Magnus Quintus Cerrud last week. He's the only new one I heard about. But they said he wasn't infected.
WAIT WHAT.
I don't remember this||
...oh i forgot sotf was coming out soon
gasp
I couldnt imagine
-# says the woman whos been counting down day by day and plans to order it day 1
This maybe changes some of my reading plans...
-# Why don't you preorder it then?
I think I've never shown this here but this is a thing in the metro here
"Leave one take one"
It doesnt work very well but it isn't dead smh
maybe cause someone left the Da Vinci Code
Started Royal Assassin 👀
I just started reading Dungeon Crawler Carl and it's hilarious
I assumed it was just some YA fiction at first
Well my next read will not be either of the options I was considering
Picked up the first omnibus of Vampire Hunter D... novels? novellas? today
And that'll be what I read next, I think
-# i didnt think abour that for some reason 🤣
I come to proselytize again
RR 28 ||Is Titus..... Red?||
||IS TITUS RED||
||Titus is a Red||
OK Red Rising is getting hot
is it rising?
ASOIAF ||fun fanart of young Jaime and Cersei when they'd swap places (and by fun I mean very depressing) source||
I am not getting anywhere with Jade Legacy. I think I might need to read something else for a bit...
great book
What was wow about it for you
||The entire scene of Fitz in Shrewd's body. Knowing a bit more about the Fool!||
Idk just... basically the entire chapter lol
Piranesi Early Part 3 || Piranesi just met this professor guy who was in jail. The guy saying something happened to piranesi + the book cover has me thinking this is a pan’s labyrinth thing going on. Book is very compelling so far ||
Same tags || If it is a pan’s labyrinth thing then I’ll be really bummed that the cover gave it away ||
Same tags || If it’s misdirection, goated. Pardon the pun ||
I liked those but also found I had to pull myself through them at the same time
hmmmm maybe i'm not feeling the desire to reread something cozy... maybe i'm feeling the desire for something spooky and dangerous..... gonna see if The Twisted Ones feels like it
T Kingfisher is currently the only one i can stand to read (finished Jackalope Wives, yay, it was great actually) so that might be it
Heh, 420
Working through Seven Surrenders and The Eye of the Bedlam Bride
WotM 59 ||I still ship Callidus and Eidhin||
(Also Firerust if you see this, this is not the average speed at which people read this book
)
60 ||The Foundation scene is still my favorite. It's just so good and hits in all the right places||
I think it doesn't help that I don't like half the characters...
I don't think you're supposed to, mind you, but it makes it a bit of a slog.
||I remember shipping Callidus with Vis but I could see this too||
WotM all ||I actually forgot that Callidus died 😭
My first read I was shipping Vis and Eidhin but switched to Callidus + Eidhin after Vis and Emissa became a thing.||
Also I just finished it again
Tis very good book
I'm excited for the next one
I've read like 600 pages in the last two days
Officially a month until SotF as of today 
Who’s the other person that was reading Interview? I only know to tag @low hill for this
@snow vessel
imma have to cut my Royal Assassin read short cause my brain is too muddled to comprehend it right now 😭 my mom got over whatever this is in 2 days so I guess I'll read something else for 2 days
Mmhm I had the same thoughts about them. Iirc I warmed up to some eventually but I never connected with anyone.
I appreciate how much this is just a vibes trailer while also hinting at a lot of story stuff
Iwtv s1-2/TVC books 1-4 ||like, lots of rockstar lestat stuff but also teases of magnus, gabrielle, armand, raglan??, etc.||
||I saw someone point out that lestat seems to be hallucinating magnus at one point 👀 ||
Also we got an actress announced for [TVL] ||Akasha!||
Same ||I also like how much they seem to be doing with the modern-day stuff. Given TVL kind of just did a start and end, I like that we're getting more modern Louis, lestat, Daniel, etc.||
||I think I saw Claudia?? So I assume we're bringing forward some ghost-claudia stuff from body thief/queen of the damned?||