#Books (General)

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snow vessel
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DA 82 ||lysander really is darrow's biggest admirer 😭 ||

wraith lynx
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DA 83 ||Darrow, please baby. Please find Lysander and Crack his spine in half, thank you 🥰||

snow vessel
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Ascension 27 ||lmao if David gets high priest after all of last book...||

wraith lynx
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DA 83 ||HAIL LIBERTAS!! HAIL REAPER!!! 🗣🗣🗣||

wraith lynx
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DA 85 ||"he kills with impossible aggression" impossible, Lysander? Idk he kinda was trying to liberate a planet and then you showed up and made it worse 🥰||

wraith lynx
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DA 86 ||CASSIUS MY GOAT??? we are so back guys||

wraith lynx
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DA 89 ||Oh yeah. We've been here before.||

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||even Lyse is like "yeah I remember darrows triumph back in Golden Son" 😂||

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DA 89 ||wait... hang on... EWWWWWW DX||

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||no like actually this is so gross and weird 😭||

deft stream
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Storm of swords (?) aka GOT 3 aka ASOIAF ||I am loving it every chapter makes me want more of that character but I also love the next||

tight kindle
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Books with sprayed edges make me so happy

warm leaf
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Silmarillion + Stormlight ||Feanor is on my list of the most hateful characters, and I know Sadeas or Amaram!||

wraith lynx
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Aaaaaaand that's Dark Age!! 🎉

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What a ride man

analog geode
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Time for Wheel of Time

somber timber
wraith lynx
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No but im about to ask my dad rn!!

somber timber
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I need like 2-3 hours of reading time and I’ll be done

deft stream
wraith lynx
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Lightbringer comes tomorrow!! sylheart

royal carbon
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I read like 1 page of the next Dungeon Crawler Carl book this weekend so I will shoot for a few more before bed.

tight kindle
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Although technically all three of those ended up being birthday presents so I didn't even spend any money :P

wraith lynx
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We have a problem atrus 😔

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Oh also since you're here

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DA ALL ||I want you to know I cried for your man for like 10 minutes, I was wrecked.... 😭||

tight kindle
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I have barely read in the last week except for in the last three hours, during which I made it through 250 pages of The House in the Cerulean Sea because I needed a comfort book

tight kindle
wraith lynx
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DA ALL ||he was going to go back with Volga to have breakfast with Lyria and Pax... he was doing better, he was on the generational run of a LIFETIME wwhw||

tight kindle
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||And his death was so unsatisfying. He just got ran over by Volgar and had his heart eaten.
Like he could at least been given a more noble death 😭||

wraith lynx
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||it was so sudden I didnt even process what happened at first.... and then I started crying 😂||

tight kindle
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I was just irritated lol
I don't really cry as frequently as I want to

snow vessel
tight kindle
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I honestly don't remember
It's been a LONG couple of weeks 😭

snow vessel
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Da all ||from memory, if it had been anyone but fa he would've succeeded in killing them. Fa is just built different||

tight kindle
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I started The House in the Cerulean Sea at like 5 pm today
It's 12:34 and I just finished it

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I very much love that book

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And I now feel refreshed enough to jump into Lightbringer

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And then after that I might just need to stick to cute fluffy romance books for a while

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Reading heavier stuff is a struggle

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And I have a lot of cute fluffy romance books on my TBR I want to get to LUL

merry galleon
low hill
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Are the oceans in an arranged marriage?

merry galleon
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Something to think about

long sorrel
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I think that's something to not think about

snow vessel
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Anyone here read Once Upon a Broken Heart?

somber timber
merry galleon
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no

somber timber
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||he’s insufferable!||

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|| he’s the worst ||

wild ridge
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Anyone read Katabasis

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Is it good?

somber timber
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DA 82 || oh darrow is so bad blah blah blah blah blah meanwhile I’m executing a plan involving the deaths of a bunch of people all so I can reinstate the slave empire I don’t think is actually that bad ||

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|| “blood knows blood my liege. He will bear you over a sea of slaves” no it’s fine Lysander you’re definitely right and good and just ||

somber timber
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DA 83 || well if darrow gets captured or killed here at least our guy is back. His humanity is back||

somber timber
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DA 85 || omg you dumbass it’s not a battle fury that makes reds fight so hard. THEY DON’T WANT TO BE SLAVES AGAIN||

wraith lynx
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DA 85 ||like genuinely he doesnt get it 😭||

somber timber
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|| dude is fully cooked on eugenics and genetic determinism ||

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DA 86 || ahhahahahahhahahahahahyahahagagagaghajdksjei kskzhjsjzjrjzjrbz s idk ex kdkskwkfhsbzukdmxjjehxjdb||

wraith lynx
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My thoughts exactly

somber timber
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|| I forgot about that because of the break between reading but ahhhhhhhhh. Also we were right! It was weird that it was off screen!!!!!||

deft stream
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Whats DA?

somber timber
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Dark age book 5 of red rising

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DA 88 || Victra come back please! This tradition is stupid.||

white pond
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Katabasis general ||my current maths class is addressing implications, aka if [statement] is true, then [statement] is also true. Which is directly addressed in the book. The russell paradox is also addressed in katabasis and was explained in this class too. Truly, I am an analytic magick student..||

somber timber
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DA all || Virginia is GOAT’d. Darrow is alive! Rip Alexander. Lysander hahahahahahhahahaha cry more! Also like apparently he’s gone full fascist because he thinks that honor is dead or whatever ||

somber timber
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Lightbringer 4 || oh apple I hope you get captured and forced to live as a day laborer ||

white pond
somber timber
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wild ridge
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Is 4th wing dark academi

What are examples of dark academi

ripe tide
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Examples of Dark Academia are Babel, the Scholomance series, I think The Atlas Six, outside of fantasy Donna Tartt's The Secret History...

wild ridge
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I…. Only recognize scholoman d 😔

somber timber
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LB 5 || “instead of honorable worthy peerless rim knights” blah blah blah you really are just a colossus dumbass Lysander. So far up your own ass ||

wild ridge
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LB?

idle trellis
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I heard only great things about naomi novik

ripe tide
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I've read Temeraire, not Scholomance yet.

somber timber
wild ridge
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Everyone should read Sword of Kaigen and Blood over Bright Haven

analog geode
white pond
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Also, The Secret History’s reaally good.

ripe tide
white pond
ripe tide
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But it very much is about how messed up academia is.

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That’s the entire reason the plot happens.

leaden coral
white pond
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I'm not saying it's not Dark Academia, just to be clear. It is very much hit-you-with-a-brick levels of subtle about that. I think I just suck at words right now. 😅

somber timber
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LB 10 || haha he’s getting his ass beat. ||

somber timber
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LB 11 || this whole chapter had me in tears ||

snow vessel
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From my (admittedly somewhat limited) experience with the genre I'd say the difference between dark academia and a lot of other stories set in/around schools is the darker/elite/mysterious atmosphere combined with often a more morally complicated and critical look at academia

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Though obviously genre is weird, that's not essential - that's just a common theme amongst what I've read/been recommended as "dark academia"

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Fourth wing is set in an academy sure but even then that's more... like a training camp or something than a school

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Also I second everyone's The Secret History recs because I love that book

zinc flicker
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Secret History is definitely the most dark academia it gets

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On the movie front, check out Dead Poet’s Society

analog geode
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Great movie

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Also heartbreaking

snow vessel
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Ascension 29 ||oml can Max and rhys stop beefing and just talk through everything||

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||also what is Max even doing beefing with rhys||

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||isn't he like 20 years older or something||

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white pond
viral fractal
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Vicky G seems to be at least aware he’s dumb

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Cersei thinks she’s a genius

alpine drum
viral fractal
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That said Vicky G has some incomparable bangers like || “sailing the Dothraki sea”||

alpine drum
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ASOIAF ||Cersei forgets that she's supposed to pretend her kids are Baratheons multiple times||

analog geode
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||Tbf, as they consolidate their power, it matters less and less||

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# alpine drum
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Which POV character is dumber?

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Cersei

snow vessel
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Ascension 29 ||goddd Rhys just accept his help||

merry galleon
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Does red rising have fantasy elements in it?

analog geode
quaint burrow
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Iliad 4 ||Zeus:obey my wife whenever she says anything reasonable? No
Obey my wife when she says make the war continue? Hell yeah||

merry galleon
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Got time for myself, gonna read the rest of Brisingr

white pond
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Katabasis 20 ||This chapter’s really just horrifyingly real commentary on women’s treatment in academia in the early 80s…||

long sorrel
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@somber timber my ex is also reading The Devils now, which means I get one more commentary 😈

somber timber
white pond
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I still need to finish that.

long sorrel
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but he comapred The Devils ||Vigga|| to Noi from doro (still spoiler for The Devils )||but with more tattoos||

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which, I think it's kinda accurate

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physically

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low hill
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Finished Alien Clay, and once again Adrian writes a good alien.

Now I have to decide what next, again...

long sorrel
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I've read one paragraph each night for the last 2 nights

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something's wrong with me ShallanOhNo

white pond
low hill
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I don't own it, so that will make it difficult to start this evening.

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ivory cypress
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finished Victoria Goddard's Greenwing & Dart series.... kicks a rock now what

long sorrel
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How was it? 👀

merry galleon
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I’m now at 620 pages of Brisingr.
Now I sleep.

ivory cypress
# long sorrel How was it? 👀

really really liked it - the first book was sort of alright, but each book picked up the stuff I liked best about it. Jemis Greenwing is my little guy wwhw

long sorrel
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I've been in the mood to read something that'd make me cry, and you know what is the last book that made me cry? That's right, At The Feet of the Sun

ivory cypress
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oooh

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these probably won't make you cry

long sorrel
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So hard for me to know what will 😩

ivory cypress
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true enough

long sorrel
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Maybe I should just reread At the Feet of the Sun

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what's 1000+ pages for a little cry

ivory cypress
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haha omg

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alright, get it 💪

long sorrel
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it probably wouldn't even work again? 🤔 unknown

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Imma add the series to my tbr for sure though

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I did very much like her writig minus the bits we talked about

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Oh Grey, you should take a look at Hemlock & Silver, I'm uncertain if you like Kingfishers retellings but it's kinda creepy with a little body horror

long sorrel
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I highly doubt Malazan could make me cry ngl

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this might be a famous last words moment but I don't usually cry with media, and when I do it's for very weird reasons.
(Except a few games)

lusty meteor
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it really depends on what hits you

long sorrel
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yep, and how

lusty meteor
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i think malazan is the most emotional story i have read and i did not cry while reading it

long sorrel
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right being emotional doesn't really mean anything in that regard

ivory cypress
ivory cypress
royal carbon
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Ugh, so many Libby books becoming available this week

ivory cypress
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I don't feel much emotion

long sorrel
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yeah, so far it feels very detached

grim veldt
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...you OK?

long sorrel
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which sometimes will still make something emotional for me but shrug so far kinda w/e

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I do have a tendency to cry when horses die though LUL so maybe DHG will do lmao

wraith lynx
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This is so funny because literally every series ive read this year threw me into a fit of sobs 💀

long sorrel
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Just different way of processing things

ivory cypress
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books don't really make me cry, but some are less emotional than others

long sorrel
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Yeah, what Grey said, really odd that a book makes me cry

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which doesn't mean it isn't making me feel

low hill
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I can't think of any off-hand that have made me cry, but that's broadly true of most media..

long sorrel
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I can think of a handful of games, that's about it

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you know the one scene in RoW, Vecna LUL

ivory cypress
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I tend to cry more when there's human voice involved, and sometimes music

long sorrel
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but games are far more involved for me than books

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Hmmm, I think for me is the interaction, games force me to be part of the story, books do not

ivory cypress
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something to really hook into the brain on multiple systems

wraith lynx
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MY DAD ORDERED LIGHTBRINGER BLESS 🤩

long sorrel
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starting Red Rising has been on the back of my mind but I should finish at least one of my current reading books shouldn't I?

warm leaf
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For example, maybe it's a sin, but I was reading Dune, I bought the silmarillion in between and now I have Dune to read pending lol

versed agate
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Usha does not need more books in progress LUL

long sorrel
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I have currently 5

warm leaf
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Damn

long sorrel
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I think I want to try to finish Wolf of Withervale first, that's what I've been attempting to do

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But I've not read more than one paragraph each of the last 2 days

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I also actually quite hate reading like this

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but my brain is being extremely uncooperative

warm leaf
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For example, I have yet to read the first ASOIAF book for a while... 6 years?

long sorrel
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That doesn't work for me in the way it works for you I believe

warm leaf
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long sorrel
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since I started both DHG and Withervale I have in fact read 14 other books in between

long sorrel
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the last one is Trollslayer if you're curious

long sorrel
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but Trollslayer is frmo the whole thing the only one I don't mind that I'm reading slowly on the side

versed agate
long sorrel
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right? I'm pissed off I left Children of Time at chapter 5 but whenever I think of going back to it I just don't want to, even though it was being so fun

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brain why wtf

versed agate
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brain why
many are asking

low hill
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I think, on reflection, that unless something else catches my eye before bedtime, I shall re-read Jade City and then move onto finally getting around to Jade War and Jade Legacy.
-# Place your bets on shiny distractions in 5... 4... 3...

long sorrel
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I am betting on something else catching your attention!

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Oh wait, I should have said the opposite

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but too late now

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my psychological warfare was too slow

warm leaf
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I just came across a fantasy discussion on BookTok!

Apparently, from what I understand, this BookToker doesn't understand why people think LOTR is the best fantasy book, as well as the most important

long sorrel
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Many people think that, which is fine shrug

warm leaf
long sorrel
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hmm

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admitedly if I wanted to hear a booktok discussion I'd go to it myself

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I don't much care about people's opinions I guess

warm leaf
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From what I see in the comments, it's like asking to explain why Isaac Newton is considered one or the most intelligent without mentioning his contribution to calculus or his new formulas and laws

lusty meteor
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There is a lot of fantasy not inspired by tolkien which i think gets often overlooked. Lotr’s individual quality is also a matter of taste

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I also dont think lotr’s influence is felt as much in something like romantasy, say, or even modern fantasy

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Less than you would expect of the popular fantasy series nowadays are lotr derivatives

warm leaf
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I think LOTR inspired fantasy, which is the first thing people read, but when The Silmarillion came out, I feel like it went into the high fantasy category,I feel that it is the area in which Middle Earth stands out

Does that mean all fantasy books are inspired by this? No, lol

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I think the anime falls into fantasy and has very little resemblance to Tolkien

long sorrel
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Cosmic, I'm feeling slightly observed rn

buoyant whale
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I dont think LOTR's impact on fantasy makes it the best fantasy book tbh

warm leaf
buoyant whale
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yes exactly, so if someone says they dont like then shrug

wraith lynx
long sorrel
wraith lynx
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I really dont 🤣 after lightbringer, I promise 😌✨️

long sorrel
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your promises hold no weight right now 😭

rugged tartan
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Oh wild, I forgot to ever join this one

long sorrel
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hello heat LUL

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welcome back

rugged tartan
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Anyways I got this ad on tumblr and I'm not normally one to make fun of this kinda stuff, but, "cozy horror" sounds... off

wraith lynx
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Oh hi heat!
-# save me from the actions of my consequences

long sorrel
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I do think it sounds stupid but I do see it

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What is that talking about?

rugged tartan
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The full ad, minus the video attached

long sorrel
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that book doesn't read like cozy at all truth be told

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I have seen some books where the cozy horror does fit a type of vibe

rugged tartan
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I'm still sorta caught up on "cozy horror", just doesn't make sense to me

long sorrel
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So cozy is how the book makes you feel, and not really the content and horror acuse it has horror elements (that don't turn the book into horror itself)

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I do think it's a bit of a dumb way to name it though shrug

low hill
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I think I've read some Susan Dennard.

long sorrel
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the synopsis of this book read like... generic school YA to me ngl

rugged tartan
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I've heard of, like, Someone to Build a Nest In, which (based on premise alone) sounds like it might be what that deacription is going for (the coziness of "Oh I'm a terrible monster that wants to escape my niche and live a human life and I kinda get to do that now" vs the horror of "I am inhabiting a human corpse and no one can find out or they'll kill me but I also still have to do some fairly monstrous stuff to survive after getting into this situation")

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But idk that that's a balance that has a ton of novel ways to nail it. You can't just reverse the human/monster dynamic because then that's just relatively normal paranormal dark romantasy

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Basically, when I imagine "cozy horror" the coziness sorta has to tie into the horror aspect

long sorrel
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I think that's just conditionals that you'd like in it and are not mandatory

rugged tartan
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I will cede that point

long sorrel
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fairly what you'r saying sounds interesting LUL

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I do think nowadays cozy as a genre is liberally applied to many things that make the reader feel cozy and not to the book having cozy beats to it... if that makes sense?

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So it's far easier to attach cozy with other sub genres/elements when you're applying the term like that

rugged tartan
# rugged tartan Basically, when I imagine "cozy horror" the coziness sorta has to *tie into* the...

One other way of doing it I just thought of is using the coziness as a sort of lotus eater machine, maybe a domestic horror about an abusive partner or parent who pushes the main character into a sort of gilded cage of shallow pleasantness that initially seems as a perfect escape. Like, "Oh wow, I get to live in this penthouse apartment with all these incredible conveniences? Cool!", and then they start to realize its a gilded cage, and then they realize their captor is also doing some really bad stuff on the side (I'm mostly thinking of Bluebeard at this point" and it becomes a sort of struggle between accepting the coziness and becoming complicit in the abuser's actions or rejecting them and doing the good thing at the cost of needing to go back to their old (presumably really crappy) life, probably with some moments of investigating their abuser's actions in secret to avoid the classic Bluebeard ending

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Which i think actually also would be fairly easy to turn into a relatively normal paranormal dark romantasy now that I think about (the abuser is dracula)

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But yeah, i think I'm just running on a different definition of cozy

buoyant whale
low hill
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When I see "cosy" in a genre description I mentally translate it to mean "low stakes".

buoyant whale
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like that is actually a story that would imo freak out a lot of people

rugged tartan
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Like I said, i think I'm just running on a different definition of cozy

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Why is my shift key sometimes note working...

long sorrel
low hill
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You mean a fire?

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leaves

long sorrel
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I wasn't going to use that term but then you entered the conversation LUL

rugged tartan
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In all fairness, this discussion is making me realize that We Have Always Lived in the Castle might fit both my definition of the term and the broader, marketing-based one (Three survivors of a large poisoning at a family dinner struggle to find a peaceful life in the aftermath, with younger sister Katherine happy at how the event has changed her life, older sister Constance traumatized and vilified after being put on trial for the murders and only barely managing to prove her innocence by lack of evidence, and uncle Julian suffering from brain damage and spending all his time nowadays mostly bedridden and trying to write a book about the event)

cloud socket
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Ooh we're reading that for my irl book club this month; the only Shirley Jackson I've read is The Lottery so I'm looking forward to it

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So, in #1322045090621034526 message my order of The Sun and the Star from thriftbooks ended up being an uncorrected proof sample, and customer service said they'd just send an actual copy free of charge. It's arrived and I am intrigued by the color change on pages

ripe tide
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Huhhhh

leaden coral
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Finally reading The Lies of Locke Lamora. 200 pages in and this is already incredibly fun.

spring turtle
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B&N preorder sale is up

long sorrel
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?

spring turtle
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Requires making an account but accounts are free

long sorrel
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Withervale 21 || 'I wish I could grow a beard', Lago thought, peeking sideways while he continued to paint his nails. He found Deon’s beard irresistibly exotic and sensual. Lago is such a mood here||

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||aaand he continues being a mood ||

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||I want to know what salacious thing the other guy told him 👀 ||

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Lupi, this book keeps throwing me off like wtf

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It does a shy fade to black then it gives a description of gestures

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I can't even put it on this channel

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I also absolutely do not care about this description 😭

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Withervale 22 ||I don't need the details of the cleaning themselves up bit! Not in this detail, wtffff||

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long sorrel
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||"I won't tell you how they had sex but here's exactly how they're cleaning up with extreme detail" is a weird take!||

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I'm not sure yet until I finish but you might like this book Atrus, I'm not recommending it till I'm done with it though cause it's long

tight kindle
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It's on my TBR already from Lupi recommending it MONTHS ago. Like before December of last year I think

long sorrel
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That's when i added it too

long sorrel
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Withervale 22 ||thaaat sounded like foreshadowing that she's going to die||

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||I had forgotten Withervale is just a massive underground drug factory smh LUL ||

long sorrel
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23 ||omg, the plot started||

spring turtle
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lmao

long sorrel
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||nvm the plot stopped for more loredumping...||

spring turtle
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welcome

long sorrel
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26 ||we put on the mask!||

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||am not sure i trust ockam...||

spring turtle
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||it's really about whether you trust Ockam or Bear more||

long sorrel
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That's enough for today

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||Ockam is hiding half of the mask powers willingly which tbf seems a smart thing to do. He's good at sidestepping those questions||

spring turtle
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||and Lago absolutely sucks at noticing him do it||

quaint tendon
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Oh fifth season was so good

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Dammit I gotta get better at reading times

brazen pilot
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Nemesis Games 17 + Expanse Show Full ||Knowing Duarte is behind things, his manipulation of Alex here is very clever.||

proven token
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I need to re-hone my character spotting skills for the hoidspotting in Era 3

half raven
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thinking about how liu cixin’s name is the opposite way of the names of all his characters on the front cover of his own book

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Great news today, and something I know a lot of you have been hoping for… ALL hardcover editions of “The Strength of the Few” will have a reversible jacket with both the new art, and a cover in the original style! Thrilled that @sagapressbooks were willing and able to make this happen.

Jacket illustration: @jaimejones.art
Alternate jacket design: @reachill_design
Series look: @mathmonahan

abstract elm
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Now the question is do I want my covers to match, or to show the nicer cover? 😅

long sorrel
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Yes

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Vecna, what ended up being? 👀

low hill
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I assume you mean what did I end up reading? In which case, Jade City.

long sorrel
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I was wrong, though I did expect so

quaint tendon
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Finished Jurassic park, onto HWFWM book 5

snow vessel
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Ascension 32 ||because this book is what it is, I worry something horrible will have happened when they get back from the Vermont trip||

merry galleon
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Brisingr ||Oromis’ death|| WHAAAT!

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Well. I finished Brisingr and the ending was so hopeful and sad

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I’m afraid to read Inheritance.

wraith lynx
tight kindle
merry galleon
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mine too

wraith lynx
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SAME!!

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Brisingr ||I dont think anything tops eragon making the sword tbh||

merry galleon
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I understand why. The story beats - chefs kiss! I was more shocked and in awe than ever before

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warm leaf
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Guys, I've got a dilemma with a book and headphones

idle trellis
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What Is the third book gonna be called

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The ambition of one ?

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The valor of one ?

warm leaf
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As it is my birthday, I am between buying a book, THE hobbit with Tolkien's illustrations, since I already have LOTR and the silmarillion with that beautiful edition and I only need that one

But then again I also need Bluetooth headphones because... The ones I already have walk 2 blocks at a fast pace and it is already at 20%

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quaint burrow
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Cosmere ||The Odium of One?||

wraith lynx
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Lightbringer is almost hereeeeee

quaint burrow
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Cuz if it's before September 2.....4th? I would start the series

wraith lynx
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Oh thats fine, im not a part of the silk song hive mind~

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But also its been our for a few years, I just finished dark age a few days ago anf my dad took his time to order this one for me 🥰

quaint burrow
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wait.... I thought Lightbringer is the name of the last upcoming books.... turns out that's Red God

wraith lynx
#

Yep!

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I wont be normal when that drops

#

SoTF comes out this year
Then red god next year
And then I PRAY for murtagh 2 2027

little dock
#

That scene and one of (Eldest or Brisingr?) ||Roran going to town with his hammer and being the last man standing atop a pile of corpses essentially or something along those lines|| are two that have really stuck with me

wraith lynx
#

LIGHT BRINGER IS HERE XD

somber timber
wraith lynx
#

I will!

wraith lynx
#

LB 1 ||its not even a page in and darrow is already fuming... I love living and I love him 🥰||

wraith lynx
#

beans! 😂

#

Actively praying on my downfall here 😔

somber timber
#

LB 1 || SMH we came to terms with him dying in DA remember||

analog geode
wraith lynx
#

LB prediction ||okay. I just realized. Eph is dead so that means we need a new pov to fill, unless we go back to 4. I swear to GOD if we get Cassius povs I am going to backfilp over the moon. Him or pax, both would make me equally happy||

analog geode
wraith lynx
#

LB 2 ||doing that thing again where darrow is telling me hes bald rn and im choosing to ignore him||

wraith lynx
#

I cannot wait to be done with this book and eat up the fan art

snow vessel
#

Light bringer time wha !?

wraith lynx
#

LIGHT BRINGER TIME, HAZE

#

LB 2 ||hes so depressed and angry, I need him, Haze||

quaint tendon
#

HWFWM book 5 chapter 3 || jfc. If nothing else i need to get through these normal earth books and back to magic universe to escape these American accents from the narrator Heath Miller lol…||

hollow hedge
#

is that Lightbringer the Weeks series or something else?

long sorrel
#

Red Rising series

hollow hedge
#

gotcha

minor sleet
#

Terra Ignota is so good

#

Why do more people not talk about Terra Ignota

lusty meteor
#

Sibling of Lingua Ignota

minor sleet
#

The main character speaks 8 languages

#

So not really

#

Anyway, the series quartet about a future utopia where humanity has done away with nations, but with a corrupt underbelly and everything is falling apart into war for the first time in centuries

#

It’s structured as a history, written by a criminal declared legally insane, who keeps gendering everyone in interesting ways. This society has no gender but the narrator assigned them as he sees fit, based on personality/cultural/rare personal preference but not always matching birth sex. There’s also some really interesting societal ideas on religion, since the last war humanity had was a Church War religion v religion

ripe tide
#

It’s on my TBR but my library on Libby doesnt have even the first book so I’m stuck for a while

minor sleet
#

Nooooo

analog geode
#

You cant get an intersystem loan?

minor sleet
#

I highly recommend the audiobooks btw, the narrator is excellent. He does voices for the characters & has excellent pronunciation of Latin, French, Spanish, and German when it comes up

analog geode
#

So the society has sex but no gender?

#

Thats super interesting

ripe tide
minor sleet
#

The idea is that everyone in the world is legally agender they/them

analog geode
#

fair

#

legally or socially?

minor sleet
#

A large part of the plot is influenced by that exact question

ripe tide
#

Maybe once I get to the UK the one there will have it.

quaint tendon
#

What is Terra ignota

minor sleet
#

A quartet by Ada Palmer. Book one is Too Like the Lightning

#

Terra Ignota is a quartet of science fiction and philosophical novels by the American author Ada Palmer. The series consists of Too Like the Lightning (2016), Seven Surrenders (2017), The Will to Battle (2017), and Perhaps the Stars (2021). After three centuries of a global near-utopia, a minor crime and a miracle child begin to unravel the soci...

analog geode
#

damn, thats Sanderson levels of speedwriting

minor sleet
#

I suspect Palmer probably wrote it mostly in advance

#

Unless she is Sanderson paced or on cocaine a la 1970s Stephen King

wraith lynx
#

Perhaps The Stars is such a good title sylheart

minor sleet
#

It’s the only one I have left. Going to start it tomorrow

wraith lynx
#

Hope its as good as it sounds!

royal carbon
#

Oh, I never did read that series

#

I should have some of those

#

Somewhere

royal carbon
#

The problem with reading before bed is that I inevitably read for an hour or two past bedtime.

snow vessel
#

Hopefully I'll finish katabasis today or tomorrow

snow vessel
#

...nevermind

#

Katabasis done

#

Not totally sure what I think of this one 🤔

#

I think... honestly, I think it was good and I did enjoy it, but it was... very different to what I was hoping for going into it? So it didn't totally hit the things I was looking for, but what it did do... was good?

violet marsh
#

Have you read other rf kuang? I've found the three I've read (poppy war series, yellowface, and babel) have all been quite different and am interested in where katabasis falls in terms of similarity

#

By concept, it sounds most similar to babel, but it could also be very different to the others again

snow vessel
#

Katabasis is my first kuang

#

Hopefully I'll get around to Bable sometime soon though

snow vessel
#

Not sure what I want to read next... I've got a few options

snow vessel
#

Yknow maybe ill start the will of the many

long sorrel
#

Huh 👀

#

What other options are you considering?

snow vessel
#

I've got a little list of some more gothic-y (mainly vampire) books I want to read/reread right now, and then WOTM I think is the main other one

#

Considering rereading iwtv/dracula/frankenstein/secret history or moving on to Bury Our Bones or this vampire romance book I got earlier this year or trying some more Edgar Allen Poe because I enjoyed the Telltale Heart

#

-# Dang why am I getting the craving for gothic novels right before october

hybrid kettle
#

Do governments that aren't evil exist

#

At this point, I can't remember the last book, tv show, anime etc where it wasn't the case

snow vessel
#

I mean I think generally the government is always going to be a bit more in the background if it's good than evil yknow?

#

An evil government just inherently draws more of the focus of the story than a good one, and so the good ones may drop into the background a little

hybrid kettle
#

The best operating system is the one you don't notice

#

My operating systems professor

hybrid kettle
long sorrel
#

Oh what a question, lmao

snow vessel
#

I think that may be pushing the no-politics rule LUL

hybrid kettle
#

Oh there's such a rule

snow vessel
#

I think it's mainly focused on current politics but yeah

long sorrel
#

I think it's the question of the ages

#

what should a government be focused on to be a good government is already an incredibly complex question

snow vessel
#

Really you could probably ask what a good government even looks like

long sorrel
#

and how that translates into practive an even more complex question

#

I think it's easier to defines the ones are bad

snow vessel
#

I think narratively though... if a government is a factor it's just often more interesting to explore as a conflict

long sorrel
#

for example a corrupt goverment is bad (which is most lmao)

snow vessel
#

Like if the government is good... they're probably either just dealing with stuff or actively helping, right? Whereas it probably usually adds more fun to have them in some way antagonistic, because then you've got a powerful new faction to explore and work with

long sorrel
#

I think when I read a government that is good my eyebrows rise to the ceiling and I'm left very very suspicious, in fiction that is

hybrid kettle
snow vessel
#

I mean, with that definition I think to some extent it is just... if they're not good and also not bad, there's much less of a reason for them to even appear

hybrid kettle
#

Didn't say they aren't good, just that they aren't evil

snow vessel
#

That is what I am saying

hybrid kettle
#

You did not as far as I can tell

snow vessel
#

If they're good, they might intervene or play a part to help. But if they're just not evil, what role do they serve in the story? There's less for them to add

#

Again, thinking about it narratively. If the protagonists are in a position to be involved in government stuff, it's often more interesting with conflict, which often leads to some level of corruption for the sake of antagonists. If the protagonist is interacting with the government but not really involved in them, that relationships tends to be more interesting with conflict, which again just tends to end up with at least some corruption for the sake of antagonists

#

Obviously this won't apply to every story but still

snow vessel
hybrid kettle
# snow vessel Again, thinking about it narratively. If the protagonists are in a position to b...

You've returned to the question about presence of just or evil governments in fiction, however this comment by Usha referred to how hard it is to find good governments in real life since what is good is up for debate

what should a government be focused on to be a good government is already an incredibly complex question
I'm not wondering why governments that are neither good nor bad don't appear in fiction

snow vessel
#

Well if you're wondering about irl that's... probably beyond the channel scope?

snow vessel
low hill
#

Stories are generally driven by conflict, and conflict with a greater power in the form of those who have governance over the charactes is easy enough to add in. If the government is helpful, then the conflict needs to exist somewhere else and be sufficient that that government cannot deal with it themselves (unless the main characters are part of the government, of course).

hybrid kettle
#

Since I keep reading and watching stories where they are evil

snow vessel
#

I think that may be beyond the channel scope

snow vessel
#

Ascension 33 ||oh no what could go wrong||

long sorrel
#

idk which part you're at but yes

snow vessel
#

||magic-showing-off competition||

#

||while Rhys's demons are getting mad at him for going away||

#

||and just generally between this group||

#

Same ||what is up with Max 👀 ?||

#

||wait could max actually be the villain?!?!||

#

||NO RHYS YOU FOOL DONT PLAY||

long sorrel
#

||I thought he was pretty hot, David-ass mentality I have 😔 ||

snow vessel
#

Same ||ok crack theory but part of me wonders if its possible rhys did the spooky ritual from the start? And max is baiting him into doing it again? But maybe im just paranoid||

snow vessel
#

||hes cool. Cant say I totally trust him||

long sorrel
#

||Rhys like: what's up with this guy||
||David and me: hmm sexy||

snow vessel
#

||god usha this book is so stressful||

long sorrel
#

it is!

#

It's so good though

snow vessel
#

||WHAT DID HE DO??!||

long sorrel
#

it had been a while since a book kept me on my toes like that

#

Where you feel like you're holding your breath every other sequence because what kind of thing

snow vessel
#

I think part of it is the fact that... every single chapter makes things worse somehow?

#

And every time something good happens boom it gets worse again

#

Nothing is allowed to go right in this book

long sorrel
#

Ascension gen ||it is way worse than Evocation||

snow vessel
#

In fact, all of the best moments have had me the most stressed because what's going to go wrong here

long sorrel
snow vessel
#

Same ||Oh 100%, so much more stressful||

#

||I think evocation was much more of a time bomb situation while this is like... ||

#

||disaster after disaster but so much is related to the actions of the characters||

long sorrel
#

||I think seeing Rhys like this does also put a loooot more perspective into why he couldn't deal with David as David was in Evocation||

snow vessel
#

Ascension 33 ||am i going crazy or were there dogs on the cover||

long sorrel
#

||And also Moira is a freaking saint, I can't wait for her to explode, the world isn't ready||

snow vessel
#

||this book is making me so excited for 3&4||

merry galleon
#

whats ascension

snow vessel
#

Usha's pitch was better than mine last time 😔

#

33 ||oh god rhys what did you doooo||

long sorrel
long sorrel
long sorrel
snow vessel
#

I think you actually pitched the plot while I just gave vibes LUL

snow vessel
long sorrel
#

the vibes are "aaaaaah" and "aaaaaaah" and "hmmm that's hot" and then "whhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyy"

snow vessel
#

Do I have another 12 minutes I can spend on this book right now...

snow vessel
#

||goddd i hate this book /pos||

#

34 ||oh my god||

#

||oh my goddd nooooo||

#

||this feels like a sanderlanche but for like... relationship disasters||

#

||I want to strangle them all||

#

||WHAT?!||

#

||MAX WHAT DID YOU DO!?!?!?!?!||

#

||STOPPPPP||

#

||HE RELEASED THE LETTER?!||

#

||GOD RHYS WAS RIGHT?!||

#

||usha your guy is getting cancelled||

#

||two thoughts in my brain right now.

  1. Wow max sucks
  2. Wow max is hot||
#

||what now 😭 ||

#

34 end ||goddd its so good||

#

That... certainly was a chapter

long sorrel
#

||Max could be hotter though? He could do more bad deeds 😈 ||

long sorrel
#

||I am joking btw I liked Max from the beginning but that was too funny||

#

||And the letter thing is ... like, kinda sucky but not evil||

#

It's so very entertaining to watch you read this btw 😌

snow vessel
#

||I love me a slightly evil man||

long sorrel
#

||moderately asshole-ish 😍 ||

snow vessel
#

||if they dont suck a bit, where's the fun?||

snow vessel
#

Ok yeah tomorrow I think I'll start will of the many

#

And at this rate I'll probably finish Ascension soon as well 👀

long sorrel
#

I need to know what you thikn of the ||[redacted]|| scene 👀

fair seal
#

Managed to finish the chronicles of Narnia and man, the ending was really just wow.

Also the stories were really different from the movies i watched as a kid

merry galleon
#

Well. Two books I ordered were meant to come yesterday. But they failed to deliver at 6pm! WHY! Where is their common sense at!

#

Now I have to wait until next week to get them (if they enough common sense to go into a building and deliver it!)

#

(Sorry, I’m frustrated at them and I need to rant)

fair seal
#

Oof

wraith lynx
#

LB 4 ||No darrow sweetie.... please dont risk it all for a man who 100% got himself into the mess he did 😭||

somber timber
wraith lynx
#

||true!! Pookie still needs to go home 😭||

somber timber
#

|| no man left behind. No don’t ask about where his niece is ||

wraith lynx
#

LB 4 ||Cas: darrow, this is a nuke.

Darrow, Not Sane™️: yes! :3||

warm leaf
#

This is my birthday! The edition of this book is brutal

wraith lynx
#

LB 5 ||lyse dont nobody wanna hear you whine and bemoan 😔||

tight kindle
somber timber
wraith lynx
somber timber
wraith lynx
#

The team up?? GENIUS! 🤩

tight kindle
#

I was gonna start but I made like zero progress and now Silksong is out so

merry galleon
#

Wish me luck I’m about to start Inheritance

viral fractal
alpine drum
#

Trey the explainer mentioned

tight kindle
#

Has anyone here read House of Leaves?
It's being talked about in a video about Manifold Garden (the game) and I just immediately want to read it

cloud socket
#

yessssss it's perfect for spooky season

#

also would be difficult if not impossible to make as an audiobook

#

House of Leaves plays with the format of being a book in really cool and weird ways

cloud socket
#

I learned recently that Danielewski's sister put out a full length companion album to go with it

tight kindle
#

Seeing a book that messes with the format of a book like that sounds so interesting to read

low hill
#

It is certainly a book that I have read.

ivory cypress
#

oh hey, my Libby hold for Swordcrossed just came in! yay!

small bloom
#

Oh I plan to read it soon

#

Next week probably

long sorrel
#

Hopeful anticipation

ivory cypress
#

.... INSTANT psychic damage as the first word of the book is "Matti"

long sorrel
#

That was me with Evgeni in Evocation

ivory cypress
#

like hold on I need to back out and prepare

long sorrel
#

I had told you! You might have forgotten

ivory cypress
#

yeah

#

it came back to me

#

I had forgotten

astral atlas
#

"Cala" in.... Think it was the goblin emperor?

long sorrel
#

Ah yeah

wraith lynx
#

LB 6 ||So if I was any Color, id probably be a green if I chose and yes im imagining this green as myself shut up let me be delusional||

wraith lynx
#

Also (RR general) ||lowkey, after Golds, Greens have been mostly pretty awful from like a personality perspective, its sad to see 😔||

analog geode
#

||Idk, what about Silvers||

#

||Greens just want to do their job||

wraith lynx
#

||mr pierce probably knows that no matter how far in the future you are, tech people will never learn how to talk to people 😔||

wraith lynx
#

LB 6 ||Darrow and Cas actually cannot go through one mission without bickering like a married couple, I missed this||

analog geode
wraith lynx
#

||i am too down bad for him to give an objective opinion on the matter||

analog geode
#

||Blinded by the war crimes 😔 ||

wraith lynx
#

LB 7 ||Is Lysander going to think that every important person wants to talk to him just because he accidentally saved mercury? Oh brother||

wraith lynx
#

Its been a day and storygraphs days im 10% done

wraith lynx
#

LB 9 ||the chapter title, im dying 😂||

#

LB 9 ||wait, that was one of Sevro's quotes for a part in Morning Star(?) Or somethinh to that effect. Either way I didnt think he was dead for a second||

snow vessel
#

WOTM 1 ||hmmm I wonder what's up with Vis||

astral atlas
wraith lynx
#

FINALLY HAZE!!! XD

snow vessel
#

xD

#

How is WOTM only about 90 pages longer than katabasis but looks double the size

ivory cypress
#

swordcrossed 10% ||a lot is depending on provoking a sense of anxiety, which is not my favourite 😩 but we'll see||

#

||why does it even say low stakes on the cover line? 💀 ||

snow vessel
#

Ascension 36 ||oughhh David and moira not being in the vision||

#

Ascension 36 ||godddd it's so good||

#

37||awh it's a Christmas book now||

#

||oh!!||

astral atlas
#

Three parts dead 3 ||"Ripped clothes, ripped chest" lmao||

quaint burrow
#

The Will of the Many, here I come!

#

(I technically read ...three? Four? Chapters before but gotta try again!)

merry galleon
#

the will of the many

#

is good?

quaint burrow
#

I guess I shall find out!

merry galleon
#

aight bet

long sorrel
wraith lynx
snow vessel
#

Many people have said it's good so I expect it will be

snow vessel
quaint burrow
#

Wait End is reading with me! Wohoo

long sorrel
#

Wait, End, did you stop Ascension at 37???

snow vessel
#

Maybe...

#

I'm gonna finish it later today

#

If you mean stopped to start wotm, ascension is my current audiobook read and wotm is my new physical read so, doing them concurrently

long sorrel
#

I know it's just such a bad spot since I want you to read the next chapters!

#

No other reason but me being selfish LUL

low hill
#

I'm not reading it next, but...

#

-# @long sorrel

long sorrel
#

Yeeees

#

I do hope you enjoy it when you do and if not I hope the bits that I think will be useful actually are 😌

quaint burrow
#

I beg thy pardon?

wraith lynx
#

Oh my, thats a lot of pages 😂

wraith lynx
#

Also YIPEE so many WoTM reactions XD

merry galleon
#

yes, your favorite book

#

i will read it also god damn

wraith lynx
#

Just in time, book 2 drops in November!

merry galleon
#

ww

untold leaf
#

My hold on Will of the Many is approaching soon. It was actually available for me last week, but I had to delay it because I already had two books checked out. 😩

wraith lynx
#

rusty 😔💔 good on you for being responsible though!

untold leaf
#

I will get to it! James Islington never let me down before!

Which is how I sneak in a plug for the Licanius series: everybody read Licanius, okay?

wraith lynx
#

I want to 👀👀

wraith lynx
#

LB 11 ||"You have a new baby to meet" oh......||

#

LB 11 ||oh beans man, this holo dad message is so sweet and sad, this is the earliest ive cried in the series 😭||

#

LB 12 ||LYRIA MY GOAT!! 🗣🗣||

#

||waiting 36 chapters in dark age fot her was misery. Glad that was remedied||

somber timber
minor sleet
#

I have finished the Jungle and I have to agree with Upton Sinclair’s retrospective opinion that the way it ends is bad and hamfisted

#

It devolves into long speeches about socialism. Four full pages of the main character listening to a political speech about socialism.

#

Sinclair could’ve found a better way to get his point across about the oppression of the worker class and how to improve their lot and also a better way to end the book

#

He’d been doing it for 28 chapters, but stumbled in chapters 29-21

#

Anyway bringing this back which I made last fall

wraith lynx
#

LB 14 ||Lyria into Virgina pov??? We are so SO back||

#

LB 14 ||Virgina is all like "I miss my man" and im like "yeah me too queen" 😔||

wraith lynx
#

LB 14 ||"no, if i had, you wouldnt be you, and I think youre perfect" STOP wwhw||

#

LB 15 ||Atlas is so unbothered by Ajax's mommy issues, it would be sad if it wasn't so funny||

quaint tendon
#

I should read the jungle

#

I wish I hadn’t grabbed black skin white masks and wretched of the earth on like audible specials

#

I want them to reread but now I have to rebuy them basically

#

I’ve been needing a Fanon fix

minor sleet
#

Fanon is a very good author

quaint tendon
#

BSWM was a great experience

#

Eye opening. To use some probably trite language

#

He has a frankness to his prose that I found especially refreshing tbh

minor sleet
#

Yes, he’s very blunt

#

He has a long series of grudges and you are going to hear about them all

#

The fact that they are a) highly justified and b) eloquently described has kept him in print forever

quaint tendon
#

I get it, I’ve had axes I’ve been grinding since the age of 8

#

Not remotely comparable in terms of justification and stuff…obviously

#

There was a section in, I think BSWM where he describes the like. Quagmire of respectability politics that black academia has to wade through

#

And like. Sometimes there’s things you’ve always noticed and agreed with that until it’s laid bare by an author you can’t put into words

#

That was a mind blown moment for me for sure

#

There was this other book. Left of Karl Marx

#

It was a biography of Claudia Jones by Carole Boyce Davies

#

Great stuff

minor sleet
#

He’s also a far more accessible read then Gayatri Spivak: I had to read part of Can the Subaltern Speak? for a class and I could feel my eyes glazing over

quaint tendon
#

I think I’ve been recommended spivak but I got lost in a winter time bummer mood

#

So my like. Radical left reading list dwindled in my ability to get through it

minor sleet
#

Can the Subaltern Speak? is a foundational work in post colonial literature. It’s just really really technical and dense

quaint tendon
#

Washington bullets and black shirts and reds were part of it

minor sleet
#

But if you’re going to read any stuff on post colonialism since the 60s, you must read this because everyone else has and it’s influenced everything since

ripe tide
quaint tendon
#

Sadly Davies biography ended up being my only venture in black women philosophical/political lit

#

Not auto stupid thorn

ripe tide
#

Edward Said too. Foundational.

quaint tendon
#

I had Davis on my list but. As previously mentioned

#

The seasonal depression got to me and I lost my determination for non fiction reading

minor sleet
#

I haven’t read any Said, but I really should

quaint tendon
#

Heck. There was another book I saw online

#

I should get to that some time

snow vessel
#

Don't have many thoughts but I'm enjoying wotm so far

long sorrel
#

We know but do you have any thoughts about WotM? rysnsmirk /j

wraith lynx
#

LB 15 ||Anytime Lysander is in misreable situations like these, I do feel bad but then I immediately remember that its his entire fault hes in the position he's in. Atalantia is a disgusting pig and deserves to get a razor through her face, but... Lyse chose this side and thats exactly what thus side comes with.||

snow vessel
#

Lb 15 ||poor lysander... I can't believe he's ending up in horrible situations completely out of his control... it's so unfair that the world made this happen to him...||

wraith lynx
somber timber
wraith lynx
#

-# I didnt even tell you about the fanfic idea I had 🫣

snow vessel
somber timber
wraith lynx
#

LB fanfic idea ||so what if there was a green or blue on Ajax's ship who got to know him and help him learn to love himself because deep down hes kind, he just has mommy and daddy issues wwhw||

somber timber
wraith lynx
#

I CANT HELP MYSELF DX

#

-# but like its a great idea right guys

#

-# I can fix him

snow vessel
#

Ok I'm going to say something... maybe upsetting for cosmic

#

LB gen ||...remind me who Ajax is again ShallanOhNo ||

wraith lynx
snow vessel
somber timber
snow vessel
#

||ahh yep I remember now||

#

||question is who on earth is the guy I was confusing him with||

wraith lynx
#

LB general ||haze gets to like apple no problem but I want to write a self insert fanfic about fixing ajax and suddenly I need help, everyone's a critic 🙄||

somber timber
#

|| it’s the self insert fix his mommy issues as mid color — which lol you’re going to have horrific things happen to you because even if he liked you he’d be so insecure that he’d kill you or worse the second somebody said anything — and then obviously you want to be more than just pseudo mom. Straight up Lilith behavior ||

snow vessel
#

||lilith behaviour is CRAZY||

somber timber
#

|| it’s not my fault @wraith lynx is doing a self insert like that ||

merry galleon
#

I miss reading!

#

sounds fun!

snow vessel
#

Welll I think there's a solution to that 👀

somber timber
wraith lynx
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Why wont you let me be delusional for my war criminals 😒

somber timber
wraith lynx
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TRUE! 🥰

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-# so ill start the draft 😈

somber timber
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No you have to catch up

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I stopped at a very awkward point lol

versed agate
snow vessel
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Ascension 38 ||goddd I'm so stressed||

long sorrel
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Yesssss, go on ~

snow vessel
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38 ||Rhys please tell them that Moira is ok with this arrangement||

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||you haven't done that yet and I think it's important xD||

long sorrel
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Kinda, relevant ain't it

light drum
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I bought all system red from audible and they removed it from my library . F audible

snow vessel
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😒

somber timber
# light drum

It was in their subscription for a bit until like July. Did you get it for a credit or money? Or just add to library?

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Because that’s what it looks like for me when the subscription library stuff ends

merry galleon
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I hope that the two books I bought actually comes in tomorrow

snow vessel
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Ascension 40 ||oh ShallanBlush ||

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41 ||I love how the book ends all wholesome as if book 3 won't come in and destroy everything again||

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41 ||bahahahaha Rhys is such a mood||

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41 end ||wwhw ||

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42 ||godddd its so peak 😭 ||

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Noooo its over 😭 😭

long sorrel
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||sorry 3 entire chapters of threesome rewired my brain||

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Also

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Also

snow vessel
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When is book 3 😭

long sorrel
#

also

snow vessel
long sorrel
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||that they can share the uh climax by touch is so freaking hot?||

snow vessel
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NOO BOOK 3 IS 2027 😭 😭 😭

long sorrel
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||David got literally neuron fried||

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Also the ending ||was really cool||

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||time for Moira to go off, my queen||

snow vessel
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||Usha its 2027 release 😭 ||

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||this wait is gonna be worse than the stormlight hiatus 😭 /hj||

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||im so storming excited for moira's book||

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🔮 DIVINATION MOODBOARD 🔮

Here’s a Moira Book teaser to make your summer all the sweeter. I can’t say much about DIVINATION, Book 3 in the Summoner’s Circle Series, but I can tell you it’s all about Moira dealing with three big problems.

  1. Ghosts
  2. Her people-pleasing tendencies
  3. A new love interest spoiled enough to put Davi...
Likes

613

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I'm honestly so sad that the series is only gonna be 4 books

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SC general ||give me a max book. give me an antony book. give me more pleasee||

warm leaf
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Finally, I have Tolkien's 3 books 😭

long sorrel
snow vessel
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Also usha I'm so annoyed that ascension was as good as it was

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I was so doubtful that it'd top evocation

small bloom
long sorrel
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Evocation is just a little taste of what Ascension is

snow vessel
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Ascension was so good

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So so good

royal carbon
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Busy weekend so I probably won't finish the last print book of Dungeon Crawler Carl. Time to see when the next book comes out.

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Mmm, this month

main wren
#

Katabasis ||I'm almost done with the book and like it for the most part, but one thing that gets to me is her backstory in Colorado (At first I was like that's neat I'm also from Colorado), how she used to go climbing in Colorado, with her friends from Colorado, and her family back in Colorado ... No towns or cities, not even like the Rockies or anything. Just, Colorado. She never names a single location in Colorado. Supposedly this place the MC is super familiar with, her old home. But then expecting me to know which cities and countries all these institutions are from lol.||

main wren
# violet marsh Have you read other rf kuang? I've found the three I've read (poppy war series, ...

(late so idk if a ping is really worth it)
It reads closeest to Babel as far as content (dark academia, nerding out over niche stuff), though the way she has a lot of fun with narrative and perspective makes the actual reading experience feel different from her other books. It's probably the easiest of her books to get into and to recommend to others, though this is still RF Kuang going heavy places.

proven token
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Finished Babylon's Ashes

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BA all
||The entire fight scene at the midpoint of the book between Marcos' three ships and the Rocinante was so peak, up to and including Fred's death from the stroke||

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||I am somewhat concerned about how everyone was like "Ah yes the space magic is killing people and we have no idea how or why ANYWAY time to create a guild based on the idea"||

regal dawn
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Just finished The Saint of Bright Doors. I feel like I took acid. 10/10 would recommend

minor sleet
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It was so good!

cloud socket
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After years of dragging my feet on it, I finally finished The Illustrated Man. I'm reminded how much I like short stories in how impactful they can be in a quick amount of time. I think The Rocket might be my favorite ||though I was dreading a bad outcome through most of the story based on how grim some of the others are.||

wraith lynx
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Guess who bought all of the broken earth triolgy

analog geode
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me

somber timber
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OMG OMG OMG

minor sleet
analog geode
minor sleet
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She should’ve let ||Genly Ai hook up with Estravan||

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Even Le Guin mentioned that later on

analog geode
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She should have

wraith lynx
swift flint
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Katabasis 9 ||Ok but the book sniffing guy in Desire is so real for that||

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||sounds more like heaven for that guy||

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||Also taking a bath in the Lethe doesn’t seem like a wise choice||

devout grove
#

Blood over bright haven so good

proper silo
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Erha 243/244 ||I understand having to bring down the tension a little, but the whiplash from Chu Wanning and Mo Ran having the worst time of their lives directly to Xue Meng getting drunk with Mei Hanxue of all people (bro, you're bad at this whole shonen rivalry thing) may be a bit too much for me LUL ||

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||But also, what the hell is that cliffhanger? You can't just go from Chu Wanning finding out the whole truth to Xue Meng's Adventures in Alcohol Consumption! ShallanOhNo ||

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||Oh god the evil Mo Ran is out and about ShallanOhNo ShallanOhNo ShallanOhNo ||

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This book took a turn for the worse (for the protagonists, I am having a ball. A very nervous ball, but a ball nonetheless)

wraith lynx
#

LB 17 ||Mars Must Fall.... 😰||

wraith lynx
#

LB 20 ||Mustang: oh I hope my husband isnt doing anything stupid with his stupid friends

I will bet so much money the next chapter is about darrow doing something stupid with his stupid friends||

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||where is he wwhw I better not miss his training montage 😒||

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Okay its late but the LB journey continues later!! XD

proper silo
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Erha 245 ||*incoherent screaming* ||

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||So... We now have futurepast and current Shi Mei Hua Binan working together, because... Shi Mei Hua Biban is in love with Chu Wanning? But also Hua Binan manipulated Mo Ran into becoming Taxian-jun and torturing Chu Wanning? Sir, don't leave, please keep monologuing, I do not understand your motivations||

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||But also, we now have two versions of Hua Binan, Mo Ran and Chu Wanning so like... Alternate timeline Xue Meng when? Team current Mo Ran/Chu Wanning could really use someone in their corner...||

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||Oh, and I think Taxian-jun is framing Mo Ran for crimes right now, so this is about as bad as it gets, probably||

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...nah, it could totally get worse still ShallanOhNo

merry galleon
#

FINALLY! The books have arrived

merry galleon
#

Exhibit A: the books

merry galleon
#

thats fire dawg

proper silo
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Erha 246 ||Chu Wanning keeps pulling all the baddies, except "baddies" here means actual bad people||

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||like even Shi Mei Hua Binan saw that guy and went completely cuckoo-crazy-yandere for him||

minor sleet
proper silo
minor sleet
#

That too yeah

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This is why ||He and Mo Ran in any form are a great match, guy with no self esteem x egotist obsessed with him who thinks he’s gorgeous ||

wraith lynx
#

LB 22 ||Pleaseeeeee let Virgina humble Lysander in his own pov, that would be so hilarious and peak||

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||"im not apple" bro just say you dont have aura its okay||

somber timber
#

I did click on it out of habit lol

wraith lynx
#

Oh oops 😭

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LB 22 ||I was just about to say how sick lyse's battle fit was and then he goes "hey here are my red slaves im using that Cassius's mom gave me + others from Mercury" like WHAT?? 😭||

somber timber
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I wanna click the button

wraith lynx
#

No 😔

alpine drum
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The Devils Broken Binding [nudity, spoilers] cool art

long sorrel
#

yeah, in the signing I attended someone had this and he let us look through it

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really cool

buoyant whale
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What's it with having designs on the edges

long sorrel
#

this one's really cool imo

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it looked really good in person too

buoyant whale
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I feel like it was a niche thing I saw once a year but now suddenly everyone is doing it

alpine drum
buoyant whale
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Like at most you would see black or gold ones

long sorrel
#

I do like the ones that are a flat colour

buoyant whale
long sorrel
#

but a lot of the designs don't work for me (this one does)

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specifically The Devils ||that scene looks really good looking at it in depth down towards the earth||

low hill
alpine drum
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or arbitrarily cropped

long sorrel
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Or it's trying to show somtehing and it just doesn't work in that format/space

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then stuff with like leaves or flowers is just too cheesy for me (in general)

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I can't get a good perspective on this one

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but I saw this in person and I found the edge very ugly

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like a squished bird and then randomly cropped and it's just a copy of a crop of the cover

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like... okay?

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then there's stuff like this

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Which isn't ugly?

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it's fine?

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but i don't see the appeal on making it look like the spine

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if it didn't have the title I'd like it more, like it continues the cover gilding I guess

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stuff like this I really don't like
but I think it's personal taste

alpine drum
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I feel like sometimes the edge art is treated like it's a strict upgrade over just gilding it or even a plain color when in reality it can definitely make the book uglier

long sorrel
#

I like a flat colour

cloud socket
#

yeah, I think booktok (and also the response to brandon's secret projects) indicates there's an interest in paying for nice editions of things

wet belfry
#

There is, but historically they do fairly poorly

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Not sure if it is a marketing issue or what, but there's a reason TOR gave Brandon those rights as freely as they did

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I know offhand the Expanse had trouble getting its line of special editions off the ground

long sorrel
#

they're so gorgeous thoooo

alpine drum
#

are their special editions still in print for the Expanse?

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or were they limited run

long sorrel
#

they are afaik

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I bought them normally when I was in NY in february

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they had them listed in some stores too

hollow forum
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The signed limited edition of @nkjemisin.bsky.social's THE CITY WE BECAME is in stock and shipping now. Snag your copy: subterraneanpress.com/newsnk-jemis...

-# N.K. Jemisin's THE CITY WE BECAME in Stock and Shipping
We’re pleased to announce that the signed limited edition of N. K. Jemisin’s The City We Became is in stock and shipping..
All of the art is already done for the follow-up to City, The Wor...

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oh there's going to be a sequel? neat

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city we became was a good book

spring turtle
#

The sequel was...not great

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It was originally planned as a trilogy but Jemisin wanted it over because COVID blues

somber timber
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I can see the challenges of writing book very connected to a city when you cannot in fact actually connect to the city

spring turtle
#

I believe the end note said something like "I wanted this over because then I would feel like I accomplished something"

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At least that's how I read it

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(The World We Make) ||the other Boroughs basically say to Aislyn, "alright seriously join us and fight," and she just pauses and says, "okay!" The end.||

somber timber
#

Yeah there are a few books that read that were written during 2020-21 that were notably a bit rougher than their standard and I just chalk that up to the pandemic

spring turtle
somber timber
spring turtle
#

(The World We Make) ||I also feel like I remember something about the worldbuilding changing to make the ending work but I can't remember what it was||

wet belfry
#

I did not like The City We Became, but mostly from an aversion to the starry eyed fixation New Yorkers commonly have with New York

spring turtle
#

tbh I just treated it as a fantasy city

wet belfry
#

I couldn't do that, because it seemed to rely pretty heavily on evoking feelings and ideas common to New York and media about New York

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Or rather, I think even if I had the New Yorkness of it was so clear that I would have felt "oh this is Fantasy New York"

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Even if it had had a different name

alpine drum
#

Fantasy New York?

"eh, I'm walkin 'ere"

wet belfry
#

I believe Brennan made a variation of that exact joke in Unsleeping City

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(Which I also do not love for similar reasons)

ivory cypress
#

I don't know that I could summon this amount of feeling about New York to be put off these

wet belfry
#

I can't imagine most people do, and among those who do it probably works more for the stories in question for far more people than it does against those stories

somber timber
white pond
#

I would compare it to TBB katabasis but royal mail just says my book’s in limbo

wraith lynx
#

The IC TBB are so pretty... I wish I coild get them wwhw

white pond
#

the IC TBB..?

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Those are two different presses. 😅

alpine drum
#

IC TBB, tbh idk

white pond
#

Illumincrate and TBB, I just kinda assume the Katabasis editions?

alpine drum
#

Cosmic meant Inheritance Cycle (Eragon)

white pond
#

O.

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OHH.

wraith lynx
#

Thank you aaks, sorry 😭

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Something somwthing typing and reading light bringer is hard

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Speaking of peak

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LB 27 ||Darrow giving mustang a detailed description of how he killed people in the rat war over dinner is killing me, he really only knows how to do the one thing 😭||

white pond
#

||”i would have lived in peace, but my enemies brought me war” brother you started so many bloody civil wars.||

wraith lynx
#

I DIDNT MEAN TO GET THIS FAR wwhw

somber timber
#

I UNDERSTAND

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I CAN LITERALLY RELATE

white pond
cloud socket
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I got my husband the broken binding edition of Hyperion; it's very pretty. whenever I get around to it i'll probably read that copy

white pond
wraith lynx
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LB 30 ||Oh rip ajax... you were terrible and a tyrant and a facist but welp... you could have been better wwhw I knew he was dead the moment they sent him to victra tbh, girly stands in buisness||

quaint tendon
#

HWFWM book 5 chapter 26 || oh boy. A gold rank and a silver rank space on top of each other||

merry galleon
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I read the first chapter of the will of the many and its good so far

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And, yes, I stopped reading malazan

merry galleon
#

no no NO!

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I was reading the free sample!

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I was gonna save the whole thing until after my tests, but I accidentally bought it thinking that I didn't have enough money for it to get through

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oh well

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guess I'm reading the whole thing

proper silo
#

Erha 248 ||So in his original life, Mo Ran was suffering from like... Reverse affection spell? Hate spell? Hm. That would explain why current Mo Ran is so confused about his past self's action, if the spell is no longer able to affect him after his death.||

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||OTOH, I'm not sure if this isn't an attempt to whitewash Mo Ran's past actions, like a "he can't be blamed cause it wasn't his choice". Mo Ran dealing with his guit and self-loathing over his past is one of the best parts of his character, I don't wait it waved off. I suppose we'll have to wait and see how the book handles it.||

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||Also, a spell that makes you forget all the happy memories of your past is horrific ShallanOhNo ||

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Erha general, up to 248 ||If Shi Mei Hua Binan is the one who cursed Mo Ran wih the hatred spell, then I don't get his logic. He loves Chu Wanning, but let him be abused and tortured for almost a decade? There has to be something I'm missing||

hollow forum
long sorrel
#

today I passed by the bookstore

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and I bought something...

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that's right

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I bought a fan

minor sleet
white pond
# long sorrel

You bought a fan at a bookstore? Such restraint, I can’t walk into bookstores without my wallet imploding.

long sorrel
#

well i pass by it almost daily so I already have bought anything I want frmo it, it's very very tiny

minor sleet
#

Apparently not because you wanted the fan

low hill
#

Nice fan. Bad bookmark...

white pond
#

Speaking of books,,, katabasis tbb has finally appeared in canada 🎉

long sorrel
#

I have so many bookmarks

#

I don't want any more

proper silo
wraith lynx
#

LB 34 ||"you should give me my orders, My Sovereign" YES SIR!! 🤭💕||

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||it took 2 books but hes finally got it, thats my pookie 🥰||

ivory cypress
#

oh, just finished Swordcrossed - ||it's really cute! gay love wins all around!||

winter timber
#

@slim perch I didn't enjoy Martin's Game of Thrones because it feels like the story is just the author going wherever he wants with it instead of making things connect. But the writing is great and I loved Tyrion as a character. As for the shining, ||the prophetic nature of the story made the story good because the early elements were actually pertinent to the later parts of the story...something King never does after The Shining (according to the other books of his I've tried to read)||

main wren
#

Yeah King just discovery writes all the way through so his stuff has solid character work but you don't really read him for endings lol

slim perch
# winter timber <@408132112395403264> I didn't enjoy Martin's Game of Thrones because it feels l...

Gotcha. I’m going to second everything people have said about Mistborn already (depending on how far you’ve gotten, past the 50% mark if you don’t like it then I don’t think you will). Stormlight is better, but I think you have to trust the author a lot and you might have similar concerns. If you want an alternate (since you liked Twilight and The Hunger Games) - Yumi and the Nightmare Paper and Tress of the Emerald Sea are great and I think fit a lot of what you are looking for

buoyant whale
winter timber
slim perch
#

Let us know what you think!

winter timber
#

Will do

cloud socket
#

A lot of early Brandon puts the pedal to the metal plotwise very late, thus the Sanderlanche

alpine drum
cloud socket
#

Finished Ship of Magic and wowowow I am hooked in- I think I like it more than Farseer because there's multiple viewpoint plots that do inevitably tangle

main wren
#

Yep I liked that side of the realm of elderlings a lot more than the fitz side

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not just multiple points of view, but those different ones go hard and the contrast in how they perceive things gets really crunchy

untold leaf
#

I gave up my loan on Six of Crows once I realized I was 4% through it with only 9 days left. Unfortunately, this means I'll have to wait months to get access to it again. Now, it seems I'll be starting The House of Many Ways because that loan became available. It's a sequel to Howl's Moving Castle.

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However, it seems to be the third book in a series, and I still have book two on hold, so here's hoping the reading order isn't too important. 😅

idle trellis
wraith lynx
#

LB 36 ||Me watching Lysander be poisoned: lol look at this dude||

#

||also yeah this whole obsidian uprising is going to get really bad really fast, and they will give the Rim a run for its money||

merry galleon
#

Will of the many chapter 4 ||An octavus beating a sextus? I wonder how he did it||

snow vessel
#

Wotm 18(?) ||mm I'm starting to worry about this whole mess. Aequa being here, Ulciscor maybe being crazy...||

wraith lynx
snow vessel
#

Oh you've reminded me of something cosmic

wraith lynx
#

👀👀

snow vessel
#

Wotm 18 ||I like how much... thought? Vis puts into all the conversations and politics||

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||like talking about which emotions he's trying to display and why||

wraith lynx
#

||yeahh hes a very VERY smart boy sylheart||

minor sleet
#

TERRA IGNOTA SO GOOD

#

EVERYONE SHOULD READ IT

#

THEN EVERYONE SHOULD TALK TO ME ABOUT IT

royal carbon
#

Libby only has first two in my libraries

merry galleon
#

wotm 7 ||hmmm. hmmm?||

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||I wonder why the eyes get black. Maybe because the eyes overlap?||

snow vessel
#

Wotm 19 || 👀 👀 ||

minor sleet
#

Kit kit kittycat! Catwings!

minor sleet
merry galleon
#

I finally got a complete set of the series ‘school for good and evil’. Only read the first three though and I intend to read the rest

marble sinew
#

I can't wait for Catwings and Robin

wraith lynx
#

LB 37 ||Pookie has his hair back + the beard + filling himself out = very VERY happy me 🥴💖||

somber timber
minor sleet
#

Into The Wild 🌱

this took me like, seven hours lol but I think it was worth it ! I may do more for maybe the next two arcs, we shall see 🫶

-# #warrior cats #waca #waca art #warrior cats fanart #fanart #character design #rusty #firepaw #fireheart #firestar #greypaw #greystripe #ravenpaw #bluestar #tigerstar #tigerclaw #thunderclan #windclan #shadowclan #riverclan #starclan #the prophecies begin