Cosmere RPG

[stray sand]

I do think that the gap between BoM and TLM will be a good place to set campaigns

In the same way the gap between OB and RoW is

[solid breach]

Yes,

[tender citrus]

yeah those are the sweet spots for sure

[solid breach]

I remember Vin shooting the Lord Ruler with Vindication

peak fiction

aura farming

etc etc

[tender citrus]

good time skip with most important stuff alread established

[solid breach]

but the gap between BoM and TLM

is also when the setting goes from magic noir

to magic noir with magitech

[tender citrus]

a transitional period. Perfect

[solid breach]

yeah

as players that have read the books

but wouldnt it be better for new players to experience the Era 1 and ERa 2

before the lord ruler dies
and before the entire malwish intrduction

[stray sand]

Could you imagine the timeline annoyance of if there wasn't any timeskips in Stormlight

[tender citrus]

I mean if you have a bunch of non cosmere readers you might of course want to make an exception. But for most groups BoM-TLM is the best point

[tender citrus]

I kinda wish there was more. I like timeskips 😅

[stray sand]

"Sorry guys, your campaigns can only last a few in-world months"

[tender citrus]

just cram them into the spiritual and you dont even have to worry about canon timelines 😉

[solid breach]

because

....

the new and fancy stuff of the setting

is also the big question mark?!

[tender citrus]

Hopefully a bit less with the worldbook?

[solid breach]

how much did WAT reveal about the world of Roshar

and how much of that "past" is coveredi n the world guide?

Old Magic?

Ancient Spren?

Aimians?

[tender citrus]

I dont know, I dont have the worldbook

I also would say those things arent strictly necessary. And they existed in the world before WAT so I dont get what this has to do with the timeline

[stray sand]

The world guide doesn't contain any surprising new lore

A lot of it is review to lore experts

[solid breach]

oh sorry

[sharp tundra]

Yeah. There's a few interesting tidbits, like (Reshi isles) ||there being a pacifist Singer enclave in the northern ocean|| but for most of the time, it's mostly just a less-thorough Coppermind article.

[tender citrus]

you couldnt have known 😅

[sharp tundra]

A little disappointed tbh, since so much of Roshar has been ignored in the first half, and I can't really see Brandon doing deep explorations of all the other nations in the back half either.

[solid breach]

I feel like we know this alredy, it was just mentioned briefly and ignored
I remember stuff about non-conflic between singers and humans

[tender citrus]

That is why I really hope for like an Interlude collection. Just a bunch of slice of life stuff all over the planet

I would read a chapter about idk like a baker in Steen

[stray sand]

You mean Roshar isn't just the places ruled by Kholins?

[tender citrus]

Thats also a part I really loved about edgedancer and dawnshard

[solid breach]

I am probably just dead inside
it is cooler to play in a setting with medallions and allomantic grendaes than one without

[tender citrus]

now I am confused. Didnt you say you wanted to play in an earlier setting?

I might have misunderstood you

[hollow sphinx]

There's some new cultural stuff for a few previously-unexplored nations, though not all of them

But not really any big shocking twists

[stray sand]

That's them conceding the point

not clarifying

[hollow sphinx]

And not much new outside those sections

But what those sections do have is still neat

[tender citrus]

I dont need any twist. I need Worldbuilding 😁

[hollow sphinx]

Largely meant for people who do not obsess over the books quite as much as we do and need more refreshers, I think

[solid breach]

I just find it dumb

[stray sand]

Unfortunately yeah

[tender citrus]

yeah I am just confused because it seems like they are conceding to a point I dont think I made. 🤔

[solid breach]

that the "flashy " periods

[hollow sphinx]

cool art is also cool

[solid breach]

is also the ons that will have the least Gm guidance

[stray sand]

Although it really doesn't give enough lore information to run a game in unusual settings either

[tender citrus]

-# lets just pretend we a both agreed all along. On everything. I have no Idea what we were talking about anymore tbh 😅

[solid breach]

https://tenor.com/view/teamwahoo-don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-9353416952663371780

[tender citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/aeeee-woooo-valeu-gif-3151277789038717286

[red walrus]

The WoB saying Shallarin instead of Shalladin implies that some people were I guess shipping Shallan and Renarin

[midnight bramble]

Feather

[stray sand]

Feather would never 😤

[idle axle]

she did tho

back in pre-wor days

[red walrus]

Oh that's old old

Yeah I can see that back then

Especially cuz they are actually closer to age if I recall

Her reaction to him in WoR just close that bridge fully

[stray sand]

I guess Feather didn't know Renarin better than Brandon 😔

[idle axle]

pre-wor fandom was a lot of fun guessing and potential and meta

I was for kadolin even back then, and I'll tell ya I have been validated with every new book

[flat spoke]

Lil more "ro" than "bro" in that bromance, all I'm sayin

[tidal knot]

Valid doesn't cut it, you need a medal

[undone hull]

I have a question about Cremrials from the book. I've thought for a long while that one of the most obvious uses for diminisher fabrials would be a softening one, as opposed to half-shards with their reinforcing power.
Diminishers are oddly absent from the books besides painrials in general so it's cool to see them here, but it is weird that cremrials can only affect stone. Do diminishers have to be "keyed" to a material like attractors?

And I'm assuming that, if they are canon, they're a very recent invention because they would be fantastic siege weapons. We know the Alethi love a good siege.

[dark escarp]

Assuming they work off of at least vaguely similar principles to Cohesion, stone is just generally much easier to manipulate in that way. Might be specific to Roshar and Stone capital 'S'

[noble tulip]

Does anyone know if the minor adventures in the RPG are canon? I know "Stonewalkers" is canon , but are "Bridge Nine"? "Speak the words"? "First step"?

[umbral heath]

Stonewalkers is canon, but obviously the writes can’t account for everything your party does.

The other campaigns don’t really have anything important happen, so whether they’re canon or not is irrelevant.

[tender citrus]

damn, I was going to go on a murderspree and force Brandon to deal with the consequences 😭 /j

[noble tulip]

My question is Aeliran the honorspren from bridge nine or whatever canon?

[umbral heath]

Well I guess in Bridge 9 you find a Soulcaster and have the potential to bond a lightspren and have a diplomatic treaty with the listeners, so that’s probably noncanon.

[umbral heath]

Probably not. Syl being the only one to search for a bond and the rest following her was a big deal.

And like I said, same goes for the lightspren.

[noble tulip]

So Brightlady Eliah Matal (who I just had to look up) is not canon, how shall I live with this information😭

[umbral heath]

Write fanfic where she is?

[tender citrus]

I mean has fanfic ever remotely cared about canon?

[noble tulip]

But she is "favorite niece of Hashal and Avarak Matal"(I just looked them up too, I completely forgot their names from WoK) her existence is crucial to the stability of the Cosmere

[tender citrus]

she is the niece of Hashal????

Hashal is a canon character

[noble tulip]

"favorite niece" apparently

[noble tulip]

I know, So is Avarak

[tender citrus]

dont remember him

[vital bolt]

The setting and set dressing for an adventure can be canon, even if the events that play out cannot be.

[tender citrus]

wait yes I am dumb

[tender citrus]

He is just Hashals husband right?

[noble tulip]

Yup

[tender citrus]

yeah the name didnt click for some reason

[umbral heath]

Yeah, they’re the couple that made Bridge 4 do chasm duty every day.

[noble tulip]

I just want someone to ask Brandon if "Zvynda" the thaylen ward of the cousin of characters so irrelevant to the post WoK plot we don't actually know if they are dead- is canon, I think it is funny

[undone hull]

WaT ||In Szeth's flashbacks, at the end of his rebellion, does Pozen bring a whole army to fight Szeth via Oathgate? I seem to remember that happening. How did he manage that without a perpendicularity?||

[tender citrus]

||He has the elsecaller honorblade. He openend an Elsegate. Jasnah could learn to do that to but Pozen is just way more expirienced at it||

||it is different from a perp||

[undone hull]

||Yeah right. But there's no way to do that with the rules here||

beyond a simple 100ft teleport

[tender citrus]

guess Pozen is just built differently XD

The RPG abilities dont really accuratly reflect the actual abilities in lore for gameplay reasons

[undone hull]

Yeah, I get that. It's a little sad though, they could have had it as a super lategame talent that requires 5 transportation and other requirements

WaT ||They also mention that Dai-Gonarthis needs a lot of investiture at the Shattered plains to elsegate there||

[midnight bramble]

They had the Bondsmith Honorblade at that fight, it was probably involved

[undone hull]

True, I hadn't considered that. That would make a lot of sense actually, since Ishar defo used connection to get the elsegate to Roshar.

[sharp tundra]

That, plus WaT ||It seems to me like Jasnah has more of an affinity for Soulcasting than Transportation, like Shallan has an affinity for Lightweaving vs Soulcasting.||

[tender citrus]

||yeah and Pozen seems execeptionally good at Transportation. They basically just invested heavily in different skill trees||

[solid breach]

when is brandon planning

to write SA book 6 again?

[thick crystal]

After Misborn Era 3

[sharp tundra]

He'll probably start writing the book 4~5 or so years from now, with a tentative launch date of December 2031.

[solid breach]

yeah

so more Stormlight Rules

probably around 2033

[delicate moth]

I wouldn't make any assumptions

It's too far away, too uncertain

[solid breach]

yeah

[sharp tundra]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a small companion book in a few years dealing that gives us the info neded to run a campaign during the gap between 5 and 6. But I think a second volume of the Stormlight world-guide/handbook wouldn't come until the back half is finished.

And who knows, the Cosmere RPG might be dead by then for all we know.

Or something.

[prisma wharf]

I doubt they'd make a full new handbook/world guide tbh. If anything, I think we'd get a supplement with new relevant paths and world info thats changed

[sharp tundra]

Really it would depend on how different Roshar is at the end of the back half.

[prisma wharf]

I wouldn't buy a full new handbook / gm guide at least

[solid breach]

Well the problem is

Roshar pat

*Roshar past

Aimians
Lanceryn
Old magic

[gentle sedge]

Hey hey! I'm looking for one more player for Bridge 9 on Aug 9 at 09:00 UTC. We'll be playing for two hours, using Discord for voice, and Foundry VTT to run the game.

Create a character if you want, or use one of the very well made pregens. I ran this for the first time last night and it was a blast, looking forward to running it some more.

18+. No biggots, creeps, excessively sensitive types, or serial alliterators.

[red walrus]

I think they can at most do more dedicated detail book. Like one book for Azir and surrounding countries.
Other for Shinovar and related and so on.

It could also be much thinner than the current book to reduce price.

[prisma wharf]

Yeah, I mean I can imagine them doing a supplement. Just not new core books

[solid breach]

to double check

the world guide dont talk about highstorm frequency right

[noble tulip]

The section on highstorms does not say

[wild swan]

this is interesting I don't really know what they're going to do here

[tight pier]

afaik plotweaver is the noncosmere application of the system they designed (which is called plotweaver)

[delicate moth]

Plotweaver is just the underlying system

the game engine, if you will

[tight pier]

in terms of postMistborn cosmere rpg stuff, I imagine that Sel stuff won't be too far away given that Brandon is writing that stuff soon

I feel like there ought to be enough information from the Elantris books and Emperor's Soul to make up a full set of books

[flat spoke]

And lacking any IP related Specificities, so it can be used in other contexts without stepping on any legal toes

[delicate moth]

I expect that's the plan

[pastel bison]

personally, I'm wishing for a full proper Sel expansion, that can tell us how to approach working with the other magics and cultures too

not like, a full symbol dictionary like we got with AonDor

but just covers maybe the "Aon Aon" equivalent and has the full map and just a gist of other countries and cultures

[tight pier]

is "full proper sel expansion" the same as "full set of books"?

[pastel bison]

no, just a proper world guide, and not just, "we'll call it the Sel book we'll only talk about two and a half countries"

[tight pier]

so less than a full set of books?

[pastel bison]

what would you consider a full set of books?

[tight pier]

what we got for Stormlight

[pastel bison]

oh, I see, like a handbook, and world guide and bestiary and such

hmm

I'm not too tied to that breakdown personally, I'm okay however Brotherwise feels it works best

[oblique edge]

I don't think it makes much since to do an Elantris campaign setting now given the elantris sequels coming out in 2029 and 2030

IMO focus should be on stuff not getting more books soon. Like Nalthis or Lumar

[wooden narwhal]

I see us getting it in a couple of sets. Elantris plus a few minor systems and maybe forging in the initial one.

Then we then could get separate one for Fjordish stuff and other cultures in depth. If only because they might have something in say 3-4 years and that would rely on just Elantris framing until the sequels are out.

Sel is a very large world compared to Roshar with a similar or larger number of cultures. Scadrial is pretty big size wise but is much more limited in cultures and probably population. This can be covered in a single book even for two eras I think.

[prisma wharf]

Yeah, that would make sense for multiple stuff with sel. A single world guide wasnt really even enough for roshar tbh

[oblique edge]

I'm going off there being very little reveals in the Stormlight World Guide. I'm assuming Bradon wouldn't reveal much in an "Elantrian World Guide", and I don't think we have enough information to release one as is. We don't even have a map for the Rose Empire.

[wooden narwhal]

Sel also has many different magic systems so I imagine we might get each system as a class. Then again looking at radiant orders and mistings/ferrings it may be structured as parallel paths instead where each has a very similar tree set up with different focuses.

[tight pier]

I have been idly thinking about putting together a list of how the paths will get modified for each planet

[oblique edge]

Aon Dor and Soulfogery are too diferent to be seperate branches of a single path. And realistically speaking we know next to nothing of Dahkor.

[tight pier]

like, I think that forgers could work as a replacement for the artifabrian

of course Sel has the additional complication of location

[oblique edge]

I don't think so? Artifabrians aren't invested themselves, while Forgers require investiture. Forgers would be a radiant equivalent, not a "Heroic Path" equivalent. A good alternative for Artifabrian would be an "Aether Spore Engineer" from Lumar

[tight pier]

artifabrians also require investiture to do stuff

[oblique edge]

The Fabrials are invested the Artifabrians are not.

[midnight bramble]

Forgers aren't Invested either

[tight pier]

and the bone monks could probably be in the warrior path to replace shardbearer

[midnight bramble]

Forgery as its own path though i do think makes more sense

[oblique edge]

My recollection was that Forgers have a "Key" to access investiture from the ||cognitive realm|| . In other words it is "limited access". While Artifabrians are "Open access".

[midnight bramble]

Forgery is a little weirder with the regional thing, but far as we know only people from MaiPon become Forgers, but not everyone from MaiPon can Forge
But Shai iirc says anyone can learn to Forge

I suspect the training to be a Forger might be what makes you able to Forge

[tight pier]

just Forge yourself to be from MaiPon so that you can Forge yourself to be from MaiPon

[oblique edge]

Also, I'm assuming Brotherwise is keeping Invested Arts outside of Heroic Paths

But sciency stuff or warrior stuff involving invested objects (Artifabrian and Sharbearer) is allowed in heroic paths

[tight pier]

they very well might, but it's a question of what the line is for "Invested Art"
in the past Brandon has referred to fabrials as a magic system

[midnight bramble]

Forgery is weird cause there's like, multiple variations on the same form of magic but from different countries in the Rose Empire
So depending on how exactly all that works, I could see it being modeled in the game system as different specialties in Forgery are different branches of one path

[tight pier]

(source: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/4/#e5153)
he's clearly change his mind on this since then but I think that Forging is closer to Fabrials than it is to Surgebinding

[wooden narwhal]

Yeah forging requires a very specific set of skills to produce a stamp which has a very specific use. You aren't carving a new stamp in a short period of time but once you have it then it gets added to your kit. It's very much like fabrial design.

I could see getting a new stamp class, getting more complex, at each tier given the time required to do research and carve.

[trim sand]

Essence marks letting you temporarily replace all your stats and talents on the fly 👀

[tight pier]

it'd be fun if you level as a Forger determine the total number of states you can allocate to the persona that the stamp has

[wild swan]

the thing I find interesting is him saying all 3 are grouped under “worldhopper” and are interconnected in design, that’s not what I would have expected

[umbral heath]

I think they’re interconnected in the sense that all of these systems are interconnected.

At some point, when there’s more worldhopper stuff, there’s going to be more stories where all of these systems are working together.

[solid breach]

Wait anyone can do that ?

[mental canyon]

Call me when we get the magic chicken breeder expansion.

[tender citrus]

No you still need to be from a specific region on Sel

Being Invested is not the same thing as having a Power

For example Ferruchemist arent Invested either

[vital bolt]

I'm not sure I agree with that.

[tender citrus]

why?

ok there is like a tiny amount of more investiture in their spiritweb but I dont think that counts as invested

but the same would be true for forgers

and allomancers

[vital bolt]

Allomancers are Invested, yes. Just not highly.

[tender citrus]

I wouldnt call them Invested when they are not burning anything

atleast not significantly more than any other scadrian is

[vital bolt]

We're getting out of scope for here, but the books can and do consider them more Invested than the average the Scadrian.

[tender citrus]

we can take this somewhere else. I am not sure I fully disagree but not sure I fully agree either. Maybe we just disagree on what we mean with "Invested"

I also kinda want to know what this:"but the books can and do consider them more Invested than the average the Scadrian." exactly is based on

[wild swan]

details aren't super clear but presumably anyone from the Rose Empire

Shai says anyone can just learn it, and that all of the various magics from different parts of the empire are types of Forgery

[tender citrus]

yeah after thinking a bit I will actually take part of this back. In so far as all humans are Invested allomancers are as well and I can agree they are significantly more than the average scadrian but not by a large amount

But that Investiture is not what actually powers their powers.

This holds still very much true: Being Invested is not the same thing as having a Power

[solid breach]

any ideas why Altered One with less Strength, would have more HP than a Heavenly One?

[tender citrus]

npcs dont usually follow the same rules as pcs

their stats arent derived the same way atleast

but in that specific example I have no idea. Maybe the logic is that because Shannay Im can kite they get less health to balance that or something?

[solid breach]

well it is more

without the rules to turn a rival into a boss or vice versa

my brain told me the second best thing is to reverse enginner the entire design process

[solid breach]

current theory

is that there is some secret roles that affect adversaries

[tender citrus]

I still think they just tweaked stuff on a case by case basis

[prisma wharf]

yeah, in general, rpg monsters have separate rules than pcs

so that they can be fun and interesting challenges

[solid breach]

no no

i know that

but there is still some rules for npc design

right?

[prisma wharf]

I'd assume it's something along the lines of "these health ranges are appropriate for this tier"

Same with damage

[tender citrus]

-# that is what they tell you. They LIED! /hj

[prisma wharf]

-# they actually just had chat gpt design all of them and didn't test them \j

[solid breach]

like for example

socialiate and brightlord have the exact same HP and Str
but socialit have 17 attribues total while brightlord have 16

[vital bolt]

Wait. Did they not include rules for stating NPCs?

[solid breach]

why would they?

that is for the advanced adverasry pdf?

[vital bolt]

Because the base game should include rules for making NPCs, not locking them behind additional paid content.

[stray sand]

Imagine if creating an essence mark involves creating a second character sheet

[gilded maple]

I seem to be in the minority on these on the RPG Discord, but I wouldn’t mind a freeform magic system built using Aons

[midnight bramble]

Id love it, but im not sure it's possible

[vital bolt]

Eh. I think it's probably easier than trying to come up with mechanics for all the modifier flicks on the Aons.
I can sort of see the outline of how it would work, in a sort of mashup of Mage the Awakening, Ars Magica, and Invisible Sun's Weaving...

[midnight bramble]

I assume we're interpreting the phrase "freeform" in different ways

[vital bolt]

Perhaps.

[gilded maple]

I meant it how Vecna did, in terms of Mage or AM or Invisible Sun

[tight pier]

They apparently have said that they expect to use the action economy to balance aons

So more powerful Aons will take more actions. This implies to me you should be able to combine effects by taking more actions (over multiple turns perhaps) to craft an aon

[gilded maple]

That’s roughly what balances Mage (Awakening, not Ascension), beyond simply having the requisite ranks to do the thing

Like let’s say you just copied Mage’s system. You have Aon Rao (that’s the first Aon, right?) as your key. Your ranks in that plus any relevant Talents determine how much Investiture you can pull. Then you have five or ten subordinate Aons with different broad capabilities under them. Your ranks in those limit what you can feasibly do.

Then it’s can you do the thing -> what do you want to do + Investiture it takes to do it = number of actions

[midnight bramble]

Aon Aon is the base

(assuming that's what you meant by "first")

[gilded maple]

Yep, that's the one I meant

[prime cloak]

I know we joke about everyone being mentally ill in the Cosmere/stormlight, but please do tread carefully. This is from the safety tools section of the handbook:

[clever egret]

a little bit of gamification. as a treat. if its funny

[fervent reef]

but this has nothing to do with mental illness itself

[mental canyon]

Someone go back in time and show this to Brando in relation to Shallan.

[hollow sphinx]

I mean she wasn't written with any one particular real diagnosis originally, but she was still written with empathy for the character's individual experience

[umbral heath]

Looking at the world guide, it’s surprising how little there is dedicated to the listeners. Like you get their history, how they preserved information in song and how they were destroyed by the War of Reckoning/Everstorm and that’s about it.

[stone wraith]

I’ve run into a dilemma. I bought the player guide but not the world guide as I don’t plan of doing our campaign on Roshar. Unfortunately it doesn’t have any monster stats.
Would someone be able to tell me the health, armor, and damage large and small enemies have? Once I know that I think I can homebrew the rest.

[prime cloak]

I know the Beta rules had some adversary stats at the bottom, but most of those are just tier 1 enemies. But it might be a good place to start.

[stone wraith]

Good idea, just screenshotted all those. Is “tier” equivalent to player levels?

[tender citrus]

nope, not at all

I think there are only 3 tiers

But the player levels are also categorized into tiers I believe

[stone wraith]

What is the health, deflect, defense stat, focus, and attack damage of a great shell? I think if I have that I can fill in the gaps for everything else.

[finite epoch]

which greatshell?

[stone wraith]

Just something big. I don’t have the book

[finite epoch]

greatshell is an umbrella term

[tender citrus]

Chasmfiend should do it

should be one of the biggest(are there even stats for Tain-Na?)

a fight against a Tai-Na seems kinda more like digging a tunnel during a giant earthquake

[finite epoch]

if there were a character sheet for a Tai-na it would just say "you die" and "it can't be killed"

[tender citrus]

I think it isnt that impossible. If you are a knight and can get on her back you could just try and dig down to the spine

which would take forever but still

[finite epoch]

I don't know what the Staff stance on posting rules screenshots for people who didn't buy the books
-# though we do use screenshots to discuss rules frequently here so
but this one was posted publicly on reddit a while ago (shortly before the RPG release)

[stone wraith]

Thanks. I figured since I bought the other one I should get some leeway. Thanks for saving me $30z

[tender citrus]

It is so cute 💚

[finite epoch]

-# I should probably include the source link
https://old.reddit.com/r/cosmererpg/comments/1lldgdd/stormlight_world_guide_excerpt_yunerig/

[flat spoke]

5; levels 1-5 are tier 1, 6-10 are 2, etc; 5 is level 21+

[tender citrus]

thanks. Dont have the book so I didnt know for sure

[finite epoch]

it's every 5 levels, yeah

[flat spoke]

I was looking at it like 15 minutes ago, still present in my brain lol

[prime cloak]

Enemies are typically categorized by tier and type. Tier aligning with player tier, which is every 5 levels for the PCs. The Types are divided into Minion, Rival, and Boss. Typically you can have 2 minions per 1 player. 1 rival for 1 player. And multiple players for 1 boss.

[snow torrent]

is anyone planning on uploading their games or campaigns to youtube or the like? The best way I learn how to DM a game is by watching others do it, and the rules in book-chapter format aren't the easiest for me to conceptualize and I would love quick online look up tools for information but nothing like that has been developed (as far as I can tell). Also I would very much enjoy to watch people play it haha

[fervent reef]

#fanworks message

[signal cloak]

Sorry for the delay here’s some guidelines

Rule of thumb re. image sharing: treat the RPG books like novels, quotes or specific sections relevant to the conversation -those can be shared but multiple pages and illustrations which are not posted officially cannot be. We're not going to be hard-asses if a single page crops up from time to time, but will start deleting things if screenshots or full-pages start coming up regularly or if we notice specific users are always asking for images. Images aren't necessary for most conversations but if there's one once in a blue moon it's not going to cause issue.

[trim sand]

My d&d group is planning to try out cosmere rpg this weekend 👀

[zenith shuttle]

I have a question
My Stormlight RPG group and I were talking about what to do about spoilers for the Cosmere (reading) books. We have decided to make a document with a big table where everyone can indicate the status of each Cosmere book, with the following options to colour the cells: Not Read (red) , Reading (orange), Read (green), Not Read but Spoilers Allowed (blue). Any additional information about a specific book can be typed in that corresponding cell.

How is your group handling Cosmere (reading) books spoilers?

Btw: Let me know if you want the (word) document with the table to use yourself.

[violet lark]

it's really annoying to me that on demiplane before the official release there was content that you could use that now is locked behind the handbook until I can afford to buy the handbook I actually have less to work with than before lol

[zenith shuttle]

Yes, I wished they let us keep the beta stuff

[violet lark]

it is what it is I plan on buying the book I just wanted to look through the cultural expertises section because I'm trying to think of a character for a stonewalkers campaign I'm going to be in and we lost access to the Iriali and Shin sections and I'm like dang those were 2 I was thinking about

[stone wraith]

I have some cousins who have only read Mistborn and not Stormlight and I was wondering if anyone has added their own mistborn rules. I have done so but I wanted to compare with someone else to make sure by balancing looks right. No worries if no one has

[oblique edge]

There are some previews for the mistborn rules that can be found online

If you want I can DM you what I have saved, I don't want to spam images on this server

[delicate moth]

Found online how?

[midnight bramble]

They shared some incredibly early looks at some of what they were doing in Kickstarter posts and the launch stream iirc

[oblique edge]

There was also some stuff in the Dragonsteel Nexus 2024 recap video

Alpha stats for guns, and a couple talent trees

Nothing final, but it something workable if you want to add in Mistborn elements as MousePotato mentioned

[delicate moth]

Sounds like it's all above board

[severe iron]

New episode!
https://youtu.be/SjDBFJboIH4?si=D8tj79h8YIfqCQ6k

[delicate moth]

I was not informed there was new art to be had! https://www.reddit.com/r/cosmererpg/comments/1mrd7zu/cosmere_rpg_gen_con_panel_recap/

[dark escarp]

US & Canada fulfillment of physical Stormlight product set to start fulfillment next week 😮 🥳

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brotherwise/the-stormlight-archive-rpg/posts/4459137

[last comet]

Yes! So excited!

[trim sand]

Oh no they erased the "Jo" out of him

[wild swan]

all these pages are by a Scadrian Worldhopper named DuLac
kandra?

the era 1 art is really cool

[delicate moth]

I thought kandra too!

I am not sure if kandra can have spren bonds, so let's not read into that too much just yet though 😅

[lofty thicket]

Yeah

Wonder if this could be the kandra worldhopper mentioned in the wobs though

[delicate moth]

No

DuLac is an RPG original

[lofty thicket]

So no retrofitting?

[delicate moth]

I would find it extremely unlikely

[lofty thicket]

Fair enough

But yeah I did find the capitalization in the post interesting. The l is uncapitalized in the Chasmfiend magazine

[delicate moth]

It could be a mistake - or it could be a reveal, since the Mistborn setting would be more appropriate for something like that

[lofty thicket]

True

[hollow sphinx]

Last we heard, there are some difficulties but it should be possible: !wob #e1832

[wild swan]

I don't remember if there are any kandra that were born after the Catacendre

[inland peak]

Warsaw signing (March 18, 2017)

Questioner

If someone out of Roshar knows the Immortal Words, and he's, for example, a kandra, can he become a Knight?

Brandon Sanderson

So, becoming a Knight Radiant is up to the spren, right? Saying the Ideals, swearing the oaths, these sorts of things, you have to convince a piece of sapient Investiture that you deserve it, and that's the main thing.

Questioner

And the kandra?

Brandon Sanderson

So, the kandra would have to lots of fast talking, and there are a few more difficulties involved, but this is theoretically possible. For instance, taking some pieces of Investiture offworld are difficult.

[hollow sphinx]

MeLaan says they can't reproduce, iirc

[wild swan]

yeah but that's not strictly the same thing

it's been a few centuries

[hollow sphinx]

though she continues "Our numbers are set.", so it's not clear to me if she means they can't make kids at all or just "we'll have to wait centuries for people to start dying and then replace them"

[midnight bramble]

My understanding is they refuse to make new spikes

So they can't make new kandra

[lofty thicket]

Which would imply this character is not actually a kandra as the way they talk makes it seem like they were not alive during the Final Empire (unless they are obfuscating)

[delicate moth]

Or they were young enough that they wouldn't have left the Homeland much

I wouldn't read much into it

[pastel bison]

I'm just sitting here thinking, "those gargoyles look like dragons"

[slow crown]

I’m curious which Stormlight rpg book shows the monsters HP and stats?

[elfin wren]

That would be the world guide.

[slow crown]

Thanks!

I found it. It’s in chapter 8 of that book.

[gilded maple]

I don't think they should have a kandra Knight Radiant in the RPG book

Not because it's impossible, but if it's as rare as is implied, that's a prime PC space to play around in

[proper tangle]

https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/cosmererpg/character-builder

have you guys seen this

[thick crystal]

Yeah, it was there during the beta preview

[proper tangle]

cool

[prisma wharf]

Yeah, its the reason I got the enhanced phb

Its very nice

[stray sand]

Someone 3D printed the plot die STL for me and I colored in the symbols

[trim sand]

Played through first step and ch1 of stonewalkers today, it was fun trying out the new system. I think we're planning to kind of switch between stonewalkers and our d&d campaign for the next bit going forward

I'm playing an artifabrian character, who I could see going dustbringer, but out of character I wanna play with artifabrian mechanics/talents lol. Sorry, no radiance for you (yet)

[dark escarp]

Heh one of my players is in the same boat. Radiance is obviously cool, but they want to tinker with fabrials and play with the fauna more right now 😋

[trim sand]

Yeah, and like, if we continue with like a custom story past stonewalkers I might start on dustbringer. But I want to play with my shiny fabrial toys first 😛 One of our other players is going lightweaver, and the third player is the only one in the group who hasn't read the cosmere, it'd be cool to see if he goes radiant as well

[lofty thicket]

Can I ask you about the pregenerated character options it has?

[prisma wharf]

I havent really checked those out

[lofty thicket]

I know they have the ones for Bridge Nine on there but also more behind a paywall. I was just curious if those like the Bridge Nine ones had specific character names and backstories?

[tight pier]

It doesn't iirc

[violet lark]

Question for people who’ve read the books that are out now I’m slowly buying them all as I have extra money to spend if I want to run stonewalkers is buying the world guide a necessity or can that be the last book in my to buy list?

[dark escarp]

You don't need the World Guide to run Stonewalkers!

[clever egret]

depends how much you want to homebrew or stick to the campaign. the worldbook would be very useful for providing location information and statblock information for things outside of the strict bounds of the campaign, but if you keep the players within stonewalkers then yeah its not needeed

[violet lark]

Understood

I’m planning to buy the stormlight handbook today and next time I’m able to buy a book I’m planning on buying stonewalkers although I’m going to be a player in stonewalkers before I run it I am planning sometime in the next few weeks to run bridge 9 for my normal dnd group

[stray sand]

Pregens are stonewalkers (and speak the words) only

[lofty thicket]

STW and B9 pregens I have because they came with the digital stuff but not the SW ones which seem to have only been included on virtual tabletop platforms but if they don't have character names or backstories I'm not that interested in their contents

[stray sand]

I don't think Stonewalkers has any

The idea is that for a longer campaign you should have a character you care about

[lofty thicket]

RIP not being able to care about characters you didn't create the backstory for

[vital bolt]

Fancy caring about characters...
looks about shiftily in GM

[stray sand]

Well, there's nothing stopping you from using the Bridge Nine pregens for Stonewalkers

[lofty thicket]

I already have my own created character. I wasn't asking for a character to use.

[violet lark]

I'm curious which surges people are most looking forward to playing around with in the rpg I have an idea of my character for Stonewalkers becoming an elsecaller and transformation just seems super fun to play around with I'm actually surprised how much I like the rules for it with the set dcs based on how different you are making the thing you are transforming something into

[pastel bison]

Division

gimme bombs

[solid breach]

magic feel like you have to multiclass

so playing non-mgic seem a lot less cmplicated to build around

[lofty thicket]

Cohesion because I think the memory of stone skill is really cool. This is due to my ever abiding love of the opening monologue to Jak and Daxter even though those stones were stupid.

[umbral heath]

From what people I’ve played with say, Division seems to be an easy surge to break, which I suppose is fitting.

Personally I think Tension sounds really cool, after spending years thinking it was kinda lame. I dunno if I’d ever play a Stoneward though, but if I did, that’d be why.

[dark escarp]

Yesssss, same thoughts for Tension. This one paragraph made my mind light up with fun ideas about what to do with it

For example, you might shape a
tarp into a box, then infuse it to use as a stepping
stool. You could shove a handkerchief into a keyhole,
then infuse it to make a key that can open the lock.
A piece of rope could even serve as a sturdy staff or
similar weapon.

[mint blade]

Do we know exactly when the physical stuff will start being shipped out?
I know September but I was hoping for something more specific

[pastel bison]

Tension is also one of the cooler surges, for sure

[solid breach]

Advanced adversaries

Will not contain the rules for modifying adversary outside of giving them surges 😔

[prime cloak]

Nothing more specific has been said to my understanding unfortunately. However I do know that Dragonsteel were going to handle the US portion of shipments after they finished Emberdark fulfillment, and they finished that fairly recently (according to their Instagram story), so they should be good to get on shipping their end of fulfilments here pretty quick. But nothing more specific has been said otherwise from Brotherwise or Dragonsteel

[mint blade]

Thank you for the thorough explanation!

[dark escarp]

According to the latest update US and Canada fulfillment was set to begin this week! To be advised though, it will take ~10 weeks to ship to everybody, so it may still be a while to wait for any given individual

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brotherwise/the-stormlight-archive-rpg/posts/4459137

[primal urchin]

I know it's early in the lifespan of the game, but anyone play enough to find any Talents you really love so far? Playing a Stoneward and am fishing around for neat things

[prime cloak]

Ive been GMing but I think the Warrior-duelist talents are all really cool. I think just the way the game handles stances is fun

I think Customary Garb is also really nice for those bonuses to defenses without needing armor. If you are playing a stoneward who can use tension to like stiffen fabric, it might be fun to think about a character that wears looser clothing

[dark escarp]

I really like mediationform making Aid reaction free. Makes for some really cool Envoy builds

Elsecaller's Perspicacity is also really cool, I designed a whole duelist/mentor build around just maximizing the amount of reactions you are using

[solid breach]

what are some ttrpg with great zone rules?
that could be ued for comere rpg pbp

[lapis yoke]

What do you mean?

[prime cloak]

There is a #tabletop-games-archive channel if you want to ask specifically about other ttrpgs

[mint blade]

I just realized that one of the example character sheets they show in the character creation section has the player name as Shallan and character name as Veil

[prisma wharf]

Yep! I think its a pretty great way to show it

[prime kayak]

Whats your resale price for items?

Like what %

I'm saying something like this
When selling items, you can Trade in Items (as give a seller objects that they would reasonably sell, and buy something from them) for 75% of the ticket price. If you want spheres in return, you get 50% back.

[ivory crow]

Question about the roll20 character sheet not from demiplane

has anyone found a way to upgrade the max health for level ups?

[vital bolt]

Really need to remember I've got a game of this to play in next weekend, and should write a character...

[clever egret]

if in doubt just play a legally distinct character from stormlight. instead of kaladin, play a guy named paladin!

[vital bolt]

Oh no, I know what I'm playing. I just need to actually do the character gen steps.

[tender citrus]

You all also got that thing where you need 10% of the time for the first 90% of the character and then 90% of the time for the final 10%?

[delicate moth]

I haven't watched this, but level 15 characters sounds different
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Bluesky · Aug 29, 2025, 7:36 PM

[dark escarp]

Yeah Meric was talking about this on Bluesky a few weeks back. Really excited to check this out

[prime cloak]

Ran a oneshot for my friends. A bunch of second ideal Radiants versus a Shardbearer. They used cohesion to bury him in rock lol

[sturdy shale]

yeah cohesion is a very powerful surge lmao

[atomic lava]

Finally finished reading the books. Best part for me was just reading all the oaths, it was so good and helped with my understanding of the orders a lot and their philosophies. Now I wonder If you could predict character arcs for the back five given we know what ideals they will need to hit but that is just me musing for now

[umbral heath]

For a lot of them, they’ve already made it through several of their ideals, so it’s kind of just speculating on the ideals they already swore.

Or theorizing what their fourth will be, in the case of Lift and Renarin.

[pastel bison]

I am curious where Lift goes from here

[atomic lava]

I can vaguely guess Renarin's third was, given he got his shardblade after getting to the tower I assume was him wanting to share his visions with people? I wonder if his flashbacks will cover it and his second oath

[pastel bison]

yeah, him writing the dates to the everstorm feels like it would qualify as acting towards his third

[umbral heath]

I was just about to say that!

But I kinda think that was his second. He didn’t understand what was going on with the Shardblade when it was screaming which implies to me that he only got his around the time he gave it away.

[pastel bison]

I think it also kind of applies to him just generally becoming more open with sharing his visions

like when he goes to Taravangian and shows him what he sees in his future, and such

[umbral heath]

I think it could have been him sharing that he was a Truthwatcher at the end of WoR.

Which could lead in to what you were saying.

[pastel bison]

ummm not entirely sure

the truthwatcher third seems like it has to be a practical truth

[clever egret]

what if kaladin did the 5 ideals again. he saw how szeth speedran it, now he knows the time he has to beat

[pastel bison]

it's like, you have to have something to share that would help or make a difference, and then you have to share it and make sure it actually helps or makes that difference

"I'm a Truthwatcher" openly doesn't really do that

we know he has his sword by OB so he definitely is swearing his third around the ending to WoR and by mid-OB

I'd expect his fourth would be about actually using his visions to not just "help", but to start to use them to actually play the "game"

sharing truths even when it leads to people dying, because it leads to desirable outcomes

[clever egret]

actually i wonder which order is the easiest to feasibly canonically speedrun in a game. like within the bounds of how much a character could grow. like skybreaker has a fast early game but the crusade is a massive timewall. a lot of them are reliant upon messing up and then learning from that mess up, which is an rng element. altho kaladin did demonstrate how you can manipulate the rng by befriending people on opposing sides during the kholinar siege

[umbral heath]

The third ideal is to reveal truth that has been withheld to those who would benefit from it. He withheld the fact that he was a Truthwatcher, and now reveals it to his father who is trying to reassemble the Knights Radiant, so I think it works.

[pastel bison]

in a very roundabout way, imo

I can see it but it doesn't really feel like it fulfills the soul of the oath

not in the same way as sharing truth about the upcoming everstorm does

[umbral heath]

It will probably seem more significant when we see the internal struggle that he went through to get to that point.

[pastel bison]

or even when he helps direct people to the gem archive, or guide them to Re-Shephir

[umbral heath]

I think they’re interlinked, since he found out about the Everstorm because of his Truthwatcher abilities.

[pastel bison]

those feel like he's begun using and sharing truth to actually help

actually, hmm

I can see it now

[atomic lava]

To me he sounded like he would struggle with the Fourth, given his reluctance to search for Mishram.

The Fourth is about understanding the consequences of truth and sharing them anyway after all

[umbral heath]

Well, he’s got a decade to work on it.

[pastel bison]

it feels like it'd be the oath that would grow Renarin from a hesitant helper to actually being Jasnah's chessmaster against Taravangian

someone confidently going into the visions and mapping details out and then using that understanding and knowledge to lead to specific outcomes, even at the cost of the pieces

like maybe he knows if he has a conversation with Rlain, it will lead to Rlain going on a mission where he dies, but what he accomplishes is still relevant in the greater war, so he will still convince Rlain to go

that kind of stuff

[atomic lava]

Mhm yeah I could see that being a potential dilemma.

[pastel bison]

what would be really interesting is if Renarin dies in book 8

like, he's already spent a decade mapping out the future and all the potential outcomes, he's already set everything up, and then he makes a move where he knows he's going to die, and it's relevant, but it's also okay because all the pieces are already in place and he's no longer necessary

[umbral heath]

I’d kinda hate that, but I could see it.

[atomic lava]

Other then Renarin, we have Lift. Who Oath will mean for her to take a more leadership role which she would naturally be adversed to.

For Jasnah, having sworn to the 4th Ideal, I think we will mainly just have to see her Aspirations in flashbacks. We know she got one at least in the time between the boat incident and her first show of Shardplate in Thaylen Field. The only thing curious is if she could backtrack on her oaths given her personal failure in WaT but that is just me speculating.

As for Ash and Taln, still to early to say if they will get spren or not. They should but there is so much stuff that will be needed to go into it

[umbral heath]

Edgedancers aren’t necessarily leaders so much as advocates. She could just be someone who speaks up for the unheard, which she’s pretty well equipped to do, since she always shows up where she’s not wanted.

[pastel bison]

I think Ash is kind of the easiest to predict

or maybe Taln

[umbral heath]

But yeah, as for other Radiants who are progressing, the Bondsmith fourth is kind of interesting to me in that I feel like Dalinar’s revelations during the contest could have directly lead him to reaching that ideal.

Also Venli still has all of her ideals to go, though I’m not sure how much we’ll see of them.

I did actually write a whole thing about what they could be though.

[pastel bison]

Venli's path also feels relatively straightforward to me

[umbral heath]

I think it could go in a few different ways.

[pastel bison]

she could hit her ideal beats just by sticking with the Listeners and working towards establishing their nation

[umbral heath]

I don’t necessarily think this would be what Brandon would write, but I think it would be interesting if her third is about overcoming guilt in order to accept that she deserves freedom in the first place.

It could also line up with the listeners as a whole too, since they were so afraid of touching anything to do with Odium that they ended up restricting themselves in a lot of ways.

[atomic lava]

It could have but personally I see Navani fitting more to that Ideal then Dalinar

Given her interactions with Raboniel

[umbral heath]

I mean they’re both Bondsmiths.

[atomic lava]

Thing is though why would Ash care about power is the thing. Would her arc mean actually accepting her responsibility as a Herald again? Thats all I can think of.

Taln is a shoe in for the two Stoneward oaths but I have two conundrums, why? This time he should still have his honorblade, why swear more oaths? The second one is more on the oaths themselves. Taln should very easily swear the 2nd and 3rd oaths but I can see the fourth being trouble for him, given his character.

[atomic lava]

Ye but the Fourth is acknowledging you must try to unite all even your enemies, and go for peace. I see Dalinar could have had trouble with that

[umbral heath]

Potentially, but I think he could have reached that point. He tries to negotiate for peace with Venli back in Oathbringer, and we see him start to understand the whole “all life is precious” part when he questions if there would be a difference between Gavinor or some random singer being the champion as in each case it’s “sacrifice one to save many”.

[atomic lava]

true true

[pastel bison]

she's one of the best suited to asking the question, "what does being a Herald even mean? what exactly is our role, given all that we've done?"

especially as somebody who has insight into the relationship between the Heralds and the rest of the populace of Roshar, and who has opinions on how people should see them and such

[atomic lava]

Mhm, I'd say that a fitting character arc for her if that is the case

[dire flame]

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Bluesky · Sep 2, 2025, 11:45 PM

[atomic lava]

Oh yeah something that was brought up in the official discord but its confirmed which metals won't get talent trees for the base game. Allomantic Aluminum and Feruchemical Nicrosil. You'll still get the powers but no talents to buy into.

Out of all the powers it makes sense why its those two. In the Scadrial setting A-Aluminum does almost nothing to be grown from and F-Nicrosil sounds like one of those Brandon wants to hold close to his chest for now.

[stray sand]

F-Nicrosil might also just give you access to other talent trees

[atomic lava]

F-Nicrosil is weird because I think you need to be a full Feruchemist to make use of it

But even then I don't get much on how it works

[clever egret]

do we have any news on when physical stuff is getting shipped?

[thick crystal]

It is being shipped out now!

[vital bolt]

The UK has not yet arrived at it's distribution point.

There was an update in the last Kickstarter update.

UK/EU

We are still waiting for a significant amount of stock to arrive in the UK/EU zones. Like AUS/NZ, shipping in the UK/EU is likely to take several weeks and ship in two phases, with our partner shipping stock as it arrives.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brotherwise/the-stormlight-archive-rpg/posts/4474580

[clever egret]

hmmm... hope it arrives before i head off to uni...

[vital bolt]

I wouldn't hold my breath, I'm assuming it'll be at least a month based on that.

[paper eagle]

I did find out that the Cosmere RPG will be available to the general public by November-ish. Found that out at my local RPG store

[atomic lava]

Mhm

It will release with the starter box they announced at gen con

There is also a sponsored actual play that should release in the same time frame

[clever egret]

ugh. oh well. id need time to settle in to uni anywa

[dark escarp]

I believe the official street date is October 22

[signal cloak]

Oooo that's exciting, I've been procrastinating reading the e-books because I much prefer physical books, so that's great news

[stray sand]

"October" at least has been on the website for a while

[elfin wren]

October 29th for retail release is what I've been hearing.

[dark escarp]

Yeah actually I believe that's correct, just double checked

[zinc kayak]

Anyone have suggestions for places to find character art that fits roshar?

[gentle sedge]

Hello! I'm looking for more players for a 3-4 session adventure, "The Recruit"- an extension of a one shot from the Chasmfiend magazine. Foundry for VTT, Discord for voice. Level 6 characters, RAW is LAW.

I'm making two groups, times are still being worked out. Group one will be on either Mondays or Wednesdays starting between 06:00 and 09:00 CDT (UTC -05:00). Group B will be on Saturdays or Sundays starting betwen 10:00 and 15:00 CDT. 2-ish hours per session.

Premise: Your group functions as auxiliary (heh) operatives for the Coalition of Monarchs. Odium's forces are currently taking control of Alethkar, and the city of Varikev is soon to be attacked. Your job is to ensure the city fights back, and help them do so. There is an agitator that is encouraging the people to surrender, in order to avoid bloodshed- a Truthwatcher who has not yet aligned herself with the Coalition. As a secondary objective, they want you to recruit her into Dalinar's forces at Urithiru.

[prisma wharf]

https://discord.com/channels/304777819936784385/1391821174945611928 is the better place to ask

[atomic lava]

So speculating on mechanics for future expansions. My current theory on Awakening is that it will be a mix between the Tension tree and Artifabrian tree. Allow you to do all the fun stuff of getting stuff alive to fight for you while giving you the tools to truly create things of your own with the crafting system.

Unsure how they will handle Heightenings. The only way they can work is goal basis right like with Ideals but then would they just make a line of ten talents deep? Not sure how you could structure it

[abstract stream]

It has ARRIVED! (it arrived yesterday but I was lazy)

[mint blade]

I'm ||im||patiently awaiting an email telling me mine ships

[prisma wharf]

Same here, making it awkward that I only have it digitally as jn the group im running, theres only 2 of us with the book . Luckily the other guy with it is getting his physical copy soon

[dusty cedar]

Mine came in today and the books are sooo pretty! Loving the dice bag

[prisma wharf]

Oh man, forgot I ordered a dice bag

Going to be so nice for my shiny math rocks

My dice goblin hoard is getting too big for one bag

[dusty cedar]

Everything looks incredible, just gorgeous

[grim saffron]

🤝

[gentle jolt]

I just got mine too. It’s all gorgeous

[dusty cedar]

The books and the sleeve all match so well

[thick crystal]

Mine has been delivered! But it is at my house and I am not :/

[signal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-kitten-cute-waiting-gif-23792171

[idle axle]

... oh right I need to call FedEx and pay my customs fees

[cedar temple]

😂 felt

[idle axle]

blahhhh

[cedar temple]

customs fees are the worst part of being an international ds fan

[trim sand]

Impatiently awaiting my emails about shipping...

Cool to see people are actually starting to get it

I'm excited

[sacred valley]

AHH MY BOX ARRIVED TODAY

https://tenor.com/view/hyper-sugar-rush-excited-gif-14231914

[still aspen]

i haven't even gotten a shipping email, have been refreshing all week

[sacred valley]

So, does anyone know if there are online character creators/sheets for the cosmere RPG?

Or do we have to keep track the old fashioned way with pen and paper

[thick crystal]

Demiplane is going to be the main one

[sacred valley]

📝 🙂‍↕️ I see, ill look into that, thanks!

Forthose of you who have played the game, have you found it more beneficial to move forst or hold for the extra action?

[vital bolt]

All I did with my actions in the one shot combat I played was drag a resisting prisoner by their leg... >_>

[dusty cedar]

I preferred moving first for the module we ran- going first seemed more helpful than going later for the extra. I imagine there's scenarios where its better to wait though

[prime cloak]

I think with the "gain advantage" action, waiting to do more risky plays works well. So a turn is >movement>Gain advantage>strike or use surge or whatever.
There of course is always different strategies for either slow or fast turns. In most games I've run, I tend to get a good mix of both options. But personally I feel like if I were playing, I'll go fast if I'm not planning on moving my character and will go slow if I do plan to move.

When Im running enemies I'll often pick fast or slow based on how I feel like the enemy is feeling narratively in combat. So anxious or eager enemies go fast while more focused or disciplined enemies go later. This does sometimes mean I have an enemy with more actions than I know what to do with, but I think between gain advantage, brace, grapple, recover, shove, etc. I can typically figure out something to try. Plus using many different kinds of actions is a good way to show your players other options rather than move>strike

[cedar temple]

The sheets are also available digitally for free

but that’s barely an improvement over pen and paper

[lean talon]

First few games going well. Ended up with 6 players at the table so sadly I'm forever DMing instead of also playing. As an aside, Silksong OST is GOATed for ambient music.

[lean talon]

https://youtu.be/MJSin7r5GSc?si=Dix6XXj-Jze1hhGE For first arrival to Urithiru is just 👌

[little portal]

I just got my books today! So excited. Now I gotta figure out how to get people to play this since I've not DMed and have very limited experience playing at all but am super excited

[elfin mirage]

I'm planning on running the Bridge 9 campaign (new to D&D and D&D adjacent TTRPGs) - It's referred to as a one-shot, but I'm also seeing people saying it should be spread across 2-3 3 hour sessions. After reading through the material I feel like it's somewhere in the middle. Anymore with more experience have any insight?

[umbral heath]

I think you can run it as a one shot, but you have to stick to the script as much as possible and keep moving with little room for players to explore or improvise.

[elfin mirage]

Thanks @umbral heath - Everyone in our group is new to the format so I'm worried it will go long regardless - perhaps we'll start with the level zero adventure.

I just watched a group play the first arc of Bridge 9 while trying to following along in the campaign guide and had a hard time tracking - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQFXAmhBvuo&t=2582s

[severe iron]

I've played it twice and I think both times it was a 4-6 hour thing?? (Two sessions both times)

With groups of 4 or 5 plus GM.

[trail atlas]

Is there a way to check physical delivery status of the game? I'm hoping to get the game soon (and I know it's only at 20% fullfillment) but I'd love to see shipping status!

[flat spoke]

If you backed it, you'll get an email regarding your order and should be able to track it. Otherwise...just a waiting game 😔

[prime cloak]

I think you can get tracking information after they have created a lable for your shipment specifically. They will email you when that happens. I'm currently in the waiting game as well

[trail atlas]

ah okay. I haven't gotten the tracking label email yet. Thanks!

[prime cloak]

Hopefully we both get our emails soon

[still aspen]

Us to people who have already gotten it delivered

[elfin mirage]

Is there a difinitive "best' newbie guide for the Cosmere RPG - as in someone with no TTRPG experience? I'm probably just going to try to join a local D&D campaign to learn the basics but I'm starting with very little mechanical knowledge of gameplay basics.

[lapis yoke]

You don't need any prior experience with ttrpgs. The handbook provides a pretty good primer and explains how the game works very well, and I don't think you need anything extra

Generally: you roll a die and add a number to it, and that's the main gameplay loop. There are also story-based goals that can earn you various rewards. Everything is explained in the book, and a good GM will guide you to learn the system through gameplay

[stray sand]

The Stormlight Handbook

[mint blade]

I ran Bridge nine with my friends who have not read Stormlight
Before even starting the game the first thing everyone did as I explained bits of the setting was to check everyone's eye color to see who would be a peasant in Alethkar

[prime cloak]

I feel like "The First Step" was actually fairly decent at being a game introduction. It is more focused on being an adventure to build a character, but it does in a way teach you how the character sheet works thus preparing you to play.

[stray sand]

The First Step, Bridge Nine, and the first chapter of Stonewalkers are all designed with the knowledge that they could be someone's first experience with Stormlight, RPGs, or the Stormlight RPG

[viral kelp]

Oh man.... I am so afraid to open the box

[mint blade]

I'm sure it's not too bad

[viral kelp]

That is what I am hoping.

During the Year of Sanderson, one of my books showed up damaged and they were really good about getting me a replacement.

[stray sand]

I'm sure it's fine

[viral kelp]

I need to check the actual minis when I get a chance.

[stray sand]

oof

[trim sand]

Got my shipping email for the rpg stuff 👀

Now to obsessively track it during the work day for the next couple weeks

[signal cloak]

Mine arrived right as I have to go out of state to a wedding. 😭

[mint blade]

Sadly still awaiting an email saying it's being shipped

But in the meantime I finally got to run Bridge 9 with my friends and they're interested in playing Stonewalkers

[elfin wren]

I'm just here patiently waiting them to even start shipping in my region.

[prime cloak]

Seeing people get their books got me like

[stray sand]

I didn't order anything physical because I couldn't afford all 6 books. I wish I ordered the dice and cards though (but I should still be able to get them in October)

[prisma wharf]

Yeah, I didnt get the minis at the time, but ive been debating getting into painting so might get them once it releases

[umbral heath]

I just got the dice because they were neat, and enhanced digital versions of the books.

I also bought the First Step and I really wish I knew it was going to be given out for free before I did that…

[ocean tiger]

Just received my Cosmere RPG Backerkit. Loving the liquid core dice set!

[noble tulip]

A few days ago in the latest update Brotherwise mentioned that the Asia+ROTW deliveries are tracked on this webesite: https://vfi.asia/hubs/ . But I cant find anything there, does anybody know?

[flat fulcrum]

I recommend you ask on the Brotherwise server or speak to their support.

[noble tulip]

Is there a link?

[fervent reef]

This is the cosmere RPG https://discord.gg/cosmererpg
And this is the brother wise server (smaller, so may be easier to get an employee's attention)
https://discord.gg/dFF7DnQv

[noble tulip]

Thank you

[slow crown]

I just ran my first TTRPG game as a GM recently. Which was Daggerheart. Now I want to run one of the short campaigns for the Stormlight RPG. I’m really loving the Cosmere RPG and I enjoy reading the handbooks and world guides. I especially love the Stormlight books, but now I think I’m ready to run the Stormlight rpg. But I really want the physical editions to pull this off. 😁

[frosty matrix]

Quick question for backers in the UK: have you received emails from Dragonsteel saying your products are on the way?

[elfin wren]

You wouldn't get the message from Dragonsteel, but GamesQuest, right?

[frosty matrix]

I suppose?
Haven't heard anything either way, though

[vital bolt]

I know one person in the UK who's received their package, but mine doesn't seem to have been shipped yet.

And yes, it'll be Games Quest

[trim sand]

My package was supposed to arrive when I got back home but it actually came while I'm out of town :/

Sooo hope nothing happens to it 😬

[signal cloak]

Somehow the box my mini's are in is damaged when everythinig else (including the outer box) is totally fine 😔 It's not the biggest deal but is a bit of a bummer

[thick crystal]

My mini box was also a tad squished

[mint blade]

Getting my rpg stuff tomorrow!!!

[mint blade]

It all looks amazing!!!

[last comet]

My stuff is shipping soon!

[last comet]

Okay gang, I had a half-baked thought that I want people's opinions on. I really like multiple dice systems, rather than 1d20. And so I was thinking, could you just replace the d20 in the Cosmere RPG with 2d10s? And then each 1 is a complication, and each 10 is an opportunity. It would make them more common, but otherwise I can't think of any big mechanical changes. Someone who knows the rules better than I do should let me know if there are other unintended consequences of this

[prisma wharf]

How would you handle things that change your opportunity or complication range? As those would become much more powerful

[last comet]

Oh true

I hadn't considered those

[vital bolt]

I am also contemplating ways to replace the d20, and have yet to settle on a definitive answer. Keep me informed of your progress, though.

[severe iron]

You could designate one of the two d10s as the one that matters for that?

Would still be twice as common, but better than either-or.

[fervent reef]

If the first is 1 or 10, and the other is even?

[severe iron]

Or work out the probabilities and work out unique ranges? (Normal complication range is total of 2 to 3... +1 range means complication on 2-5, etc?)

[lapis yoke]

Another issue: 2d10 would have a very different distribution of results. You don't have an equal chance of getting every result, and honestly complications and opportunities really affect how you play. I wouldn't do it until you've played the system enough to really understand it.

[dark escarp]

Worth noting that the probability curve changes pretty drastically with a change like that

[fervent reef]

I think that's kinda the point of a 2D10 setup over a 1D20. It's more of a curve than before

[dire flame]

It's better to have doubles be opportunities or complications. If the roll succeeds with doubles? Opportunity. Failure with doubles means a complication

[clever egret]

could keep it dynamic. do a session as intended, do the next session with 2d10's, see how you and players feel about how differently it played out

like ive got big personal preference around this stuff. in a current ttrpg im playing, theres a mechanic where you can spend a mana bar esque resource to boost your rolls to increase probability of success. and honestly i never engage with this mechanic because i dont mind if my rolls fail. but other players at table prefer success, so they use it. and my character has ended up becoming a canonically miserable failure while they survive events miraculously unscathed. its created great resentment between our characters, i love it

[lofty thicket]

Replacing d20 with 2d10s? We are thinking too small. 5d4s or bust.

[elfin wren]

20d1 or bust

[dire flame]

just flip all the herald coins

10d2

[fervent reef]

Nah 20D2 (but a head is 1 and a tail is 0), proper binomial distribution

[clever egret]

hmm ur onto something there. what if we use these 1's and 0's to create a binary sequence, you could then use this to encode data and create a visual medium for a game! a videographical game

[severe iron]

Oh there we go

(Average(2d10) - 1) * 19/9 +1

Nailed it.

Just keep a calculator handy

[vital bolt]

Ahh, just like when playing Anima.

[severe iron]

Oh, whoops, it's impossible to roll a 10

[abstract stream]

Got my minis, this time for the canon characters! I actually got them last week, I just didn't have time.

[tawdry junco]

If I don't want to play the rpg but want all of the worldbuilding/actual plot info what do I need to get?

[lapis yoke]

World Guide

[prisma wharf]

The stonewalkers adventure guide also explains what happens in it

(If the adventure is what you care about)

[tawdry junco]

Is that not just Stonewalkers?

and do I need any of the other adventures or the handbook?

[prisma wharf]

Well, what are you trying to learn from it? Worldbuilding info, or what happens in the adventures?

[tawdry junco]

Everything cannon to the books

(found out it was important from things like stonewalkers filling a plot hole and the handbook having extra oaths)

[prisma wharf]

Pretty much everything in the rpg is canon

[dire flame]

story is, mechanics are not

[tawdry junco]

does anything in the supplementary adventures matter?

[prisma wharf]

Not sure tbh, havent looked at them. Also note that for the adventures, watching people go through them on yt is a free option to get the gist of what happens, which is all thats Canon anyway

[tawdry junco]

alright. So Stonewalkers, Handbook, and World guide?

[lapis yoke]

That is everything with canon information. It is also everything you would need to play

[stray sand]

well, you really only need the handbook to play, and you need the world guide or stonewalkers or another prewritten adventure to run it

[umbral heath]

The core book also has information about the different Radiants though.

You could just learn about that through the coppermind.

[tawdry junco]

exactly

[tawdry junco]

I could

[vital bolt]

Games...
-# Including the Mistborn Deckbuilding Game, so more than just the RPG technically.

[fervent reef]

I think it's more that it's an order (single) from "Brotherwise Games", rather than multiple games being sent

[vital bolt]

Given it includes two different games, no. :P

It's both the RPG and the deckbuilder.

[fervent reef]

Then why "has" instead of "have"?

[vital bolt]

One order. Two games.

[fervent reef]

A push and a pull?

[vital bolt]

glares at Evri
Don't you give me "We're sorry we haven't been able to deliver today"...

[frosty matrix]

I read "Evi" and was thinking "What does Dalinar's wife have to do with this..."

[vital bolt]

I knew someone would.

[fervent reef]

I'd rather my parcel was delivered by a fictional character than EVRi

[finite epoch]

On the bright side, you're likely to receive your order this semester!

-# I assume

[vital bolt]

Similar likelihood it'll turn up.

[rigid jewel]

I'd like to start an actual play with some people, using Cosmere RPG. Would anyone be interested in joining for a weekday, around noonish PST (can be adjusted), once a week game session? DM if in interested please. 🙂

[vital bolt]

It arrived!
-# Only two days late.

[primal wyvern]

Yall we just got our box but its just the figurines??

Im pretty sure we got the books in our kickstarter package…

Any chance it comes in two shipments?

We backed “The Collector”

[prisma wharf]

that might be worth contacting support over tbh

[primal wyvern]

Okay thanks!

[dark escarp]

I've seen multiple cases, in the US at least (including my own), where Dragonsteel split it into two packages when there were multiple add-ons on top of a big pledge order

[wanton void]

you know the only problem that I have with the stormlight RPG books, they use a format that looks like it should be for two-page view. But you need to have it display the first page alone for it to work. And none of the default pdf viewers do that

[hollow sphinx]

Firefox's has an option for that (select "Even Spreads" in the menu)

If you're on Mac, the default Preview app also does this if you enable two-page view

Doesn't look like Chrome does that I can see though, and not familiar with whatever the default app(s) on Windows are

I see a feature request for Chrome which mentions that Edge supports it? But I can't verify

[wanton void]

I eventually found something like that, but chrome doesn't do that by default

[hollow sphinx]

Found a screenshot

So it's mostly just Chrome lacking it

(And Safari, but a) why would anyone be using Safari for this and b) it has a button to open the current PDF directly in Preview anyway)

[wanton void]

huh, I guess I just tried opening on the two programs that don't do that

[vital bolt]

There are good free PDF readers that aren't browsers. Programs designed to do that thing, and therefore have more options.

[glossy hare]

Hey people, I have a quick question regarding human ancestry: The handbook says that humans can choose a bonus talent at every tier. What can you choose as a bonus talent? Does it need to be at the top of the skill tree or can it be any talent my character meets the requirements for?

[mint blade]

I'm pretty sure it's any talent they qualify for, definitely doesn't have to be top one on a skill tree as all of the pregen human characters have their second talent as one in the same skill tree as their first one

Unless I'm misunderstanding the question

[trim sand]

I feel like the section is pretty clear, unless I'm misunderstanding your question as well 😅 What part of this are you unsure about?

[glossy hare]

This answers my question, thanks. I was unsure because this means I could take something like Keen Insight from the Strategist path, even though usually, you would need to unlock the previous talents first. Is that how it works? Feels a bit wonky to me.
I'm very new to the RPG, so it is very possible I've misunderstood something here 🤷

[stray sand]

You need to meet all prerequisites

[glossy hare]

So "Prerequisite" does mean I need to unlock the skills further up the tree as well?

[stray sand]

Yes

If you look at the descriptions for each talent, they explicitly say that

For example:

[glossy hare]

Ohh I see. I didn't even think about the possibility that the tree would not show all the necessary requirements
Thanks for explaining and sorry for wasting your time

[stray sand]

It does

that's what the lines are for

[mint blade]

Oh, so you wouldn't be able to use this for a radiant talent at higher levels, just something from a heroic path

Honestly hadn't read the rules on that close enough to know that

[last comet]

This does remind me of another question I had. It feels like Singer Ancestry is exactly like Human Ancestry, just better. Since it's all the same features, plus Singers get their additional talent tree. The only other thing that Humans get is an additional Heroic Path at level 1, but that doesn't really feel like it offsets the bonuses that Singers get. Is there something I'm missing, or is Singer just human but better?

[umbral heath]

Humans get as many talents as singers, singers just get the different talent tree.

[stray sand]

The main difference is just that singers always get the singer key talent at lvl 1

[last comet]

Yeah, and those starting talents give extra abilities that feel like they outweigh the benefit of another starting talent

Maybe I'm wrong, it just feels like Singer is pretty objectively better than human

[umbral heath]

The key talent is the only extra one, you still need to spend another talent to actually get access to forms. And you only get access to a couple of those.

[stray sand]

Yeah, the main reason to play a human is just lore

[umbral heath]

Forms also make you a more specialized character, and you can’t switch them at will.

Plus, being a singer kind of limits the sorts of characters you can play in the game.

[lapis yoke]

The starting talents are really good, honestly, and I can very reasonably see myself picking a human over a singer because of them. Also, if you want to change forms a lot, there is a talent tax for it

I'd love to play a singer, but I feel like there's more build flexibility as a human

[last comet]

That's fair

[vital bolt]

And not being the hated enemy of basically everyone else.

[fervent reef]

Including other singers

[stray sand]

So, lore

[mint blade]

yeah, at level one a singer is stuck with dullform and mateform, you have to level up at least once to gain access to a useful form. So at level two a human can have a key heroic talent and two talents in a specialization, whereas a singer might have two useful forms and a single key talent in a heroic path with no specialization yet.

[prisma wharf]

No, at level one you get a form talent

it's just instead of a path talent so you're behind there

[mint blade]

Ah, I misread that at first

alright, say you're a level 1 warrior
A singer chooses warform and gets +1 strength and deflect
A human instead might get expertise in a weapon, an armor, and the ability to graze once per round without using focus.
That doesn't seem like a horrible tradeoff

[stray sand]

You do technically start with three talents though

[mint blade]

the forms are good, but the basic forms aren't overpowered compared to heroic talents

[prisma wharf]

Yeah, agreed

[mint blade]

it's not until you take a number of talents in the tree that you get good stuff, and those have a downside unless you're already a radiant

plus, heroic talents aren't exclusive like singer ones are. You can only be using one of your singer talents at a time since you can only be in one form at a time. If you're in Direform, that's pretty strong, but you're making no use out of the two or more other talents you have in that tree when you could have had three heroic talents that you have available to use at any moment

[stark garden]

Mine arrived! Though my painted figurines and a few other add-ons are missing; is this expected? I didn't see any word of it in the communications / FAQs.
The art in the books is so good. Some of Marie's art especially, my goodness. Makes me want to get more prints from her...

[eternal vortex]

Apparently they split some large shipments #1391790178435207290 message

[stark garden]

Yes, they just made a new kickstarter announcement where they specify that they are doing this lol. If they also mentioned it in a previous announcement I did not see it.

[primal wyvern]

Just got all my stuff and I have looked through a tiny bit of the PDFs, but I honestly have no idea how to start, especially since I have played basically no ttrpgs. Any tips??

[umbral heath]

Do you have friends to play with?

[severe iron]

Zero experience? I'd skim the introduction plus chapters 9-12. And then start from the beginning and read the whole book, more or less, at least to ch12.

And then find a group you can play with.

[primal wyvern]

A few yep!

[umbral heath]

One thing that might help is to listen to an actual play podcast. It can help you get a feel of how the flow of the game goes.

[primal wyvern]

Any you can suggest?

[umbral heath]

My First Dungeon is a podcast, they haven’t done the Stormlight RPG but they run short campaigns (like 6-8 episodes) and have talks before and after focusing on the experience of trying out a new game and what went well and areas they can improve.

Just find any season that looks interesting and check it out, and it’ll give you an idea of how people run and play these games.

[stark garden]

Campaign 4 of Critical Role just started, and they are the most popular actual play group. Campaign 4 is completely disconnected story-wise from the previous 3, so it's a great entry point. Keep in mind that these are professional entertainers and their fourth campaign specifically has an element non-standard in TTRPG campaigns for its first few episodes - having a large number of players and rotating between them. That said, Campaign 4 is a genuine inspiration as a player and game master. I would also strongly recommend Campaign 2, which you do not need any context from Campaign 1 for, even though it's in the same setting - and it's a little more grounded, especially at the beginning.

[primal wyvern]

Thanks guys!! Ill check the suggested ones out :))

[finite epoch]

might be a good time to drop this here (in case it doesn't embed, it's a one-shot played by some members the Cosmere RPG design team):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMfxobTrox8

[stiff hollow]

hey you stole my name!

(jk)

[stray sand]

thatonetransfem?

[safe dawn]

Is there any established method to roll stats (and not use point buy)?

(I just got my physical copy of the Handbook.)

[vital bolt]

I'm not sure how that'd even work, given that you don't have many stat points to start with and therefore they're all in the 0-3 range, and mostly 1 or 2.
rounddown(d4/2)-1?

[safe dawn]

Statistically, you’d have to average two in every category while the range is 0–3. And it should spread enough so you have some very low and some very high while not running too much risk of landing below a sum of twelve.

[vital bolt]

I'm not personally sold on what it'd add to the game, but I've never liked rolling stats anyway.

[stray sand]

Maybe if you want to roleplay a high-mortality Bridge Crew

[vital bolt]

For that I'd just come up with a set of standard arrays, and apply them instead.

Probably take longer to roll 12*rounddown(1d4/2)-1 dice than to spend 12 points. :P

[stark garden]

it's not about time but about using what fate gives you. Some people like to roll stats in-order then make a character which suits those stats

[vital bolt]

I am aware of the reasonings.

[stray sand]

I think the best way to get this is (2d4-1)/2

which is kinda cursed

[fluid storm]

Probably late to pick up on this, but I just realised that the ribbon page divider in my copy of the handbook came pre-set to the Division page. Nice

[grand tide]

Hi, does anyone know where the library big map is supposed to be set in?

[thick crystal]

It is a location in the Stonewalkers adventure

Stonewalkers ||its in Rall Elorim||

[grand tide]

Thanks! I just got the RPG today, was just browsing it and couldn't place it.

[mint blade]

most of the maps are for Stonewalkers or Bridge 9

of course many are pretty versatile for other adventures

[stiff hollow]

#1 wayne fan

[stray sand]

I know

I was joking

that's why the strikethrough is there

[stiff hollow]

sry lol

[honest prism]

kharbranthi surgeon: "don't take this the wrong way, but... what is the assistant's eye colour?"
rest of the party: losing our minds

surgeon's player is not familiar with Stormlight canon. got a list of names for surgeons to ask about and picked Lirin

is now en route to speak to kaladin

the rest of us are still losing our minds

[rare narwhal]

this is an AU where he went to Kharbranth?

[honest prism]

no, we're doing the stonewalkers campaign so this is freshly-made-Captain kaladin

we have a kharbranthi surgeon, herdazian-alethi ardent, lighteyed alethi soldier, wrongly imprisoned thaylen merchant, shin-raised iriali, and a horneater artifabrian

and 2/3 of the party are burgeoning radiants

very fun campaign so far

[rare narwhal]

I don't understand the significance of the first part then and why minds are being lost 😅

[honest prism]

Because the player's only knowledge of lighteyes and darkeyes is from the party, and the character is from Kharbranth, where that division isn’t as much of a thing

So for her to react to NPC stupidity with in-universe racism/classism had the whole table cracking up bc it was so unexpected

[umbral heath]

Was it not that big a deal in Kharbrath? Like even if their society is less stratified, that division is still part of Vorinism so it's not that odd for it to still be important to at least some people in Kharbranth.

[honest prism]

It was extremely unexpected from that specific player, who right up til that moment had not played their character as any kind of bigoted

[stark garden]

How did asking about Lirin lead to finding Lirin's son?

[honest prism]

genuinely, I am not sure. I think the DM provided a list so the character could, like, speak with another surgeon at the warcamps? but Lirin isn't there, so instead she's been redirected towards Kal

[stark garden]

Someone at the warcamps heard them ask after Lirin due to a list of surgeons happening to have his name at it, and somehow knew that Kal is this Lirin guy's son? 🤔

[lofty thicket]

Saw this in a local bookstore

[stray sand]

I thought retail sales hadn't started yet

[stark garden]

Usually stores slowly get stuff shipped to them over time and they're not supposed to put any out until a given date. But some don't care and do so anyways, or do so by accident.

Same goes for other kinds of books. It happened with WaT

[prime cloak]

Man Im still waiting for my stuff to ship 😭😭😭

[dark escarp]

These are most likely a retail backer to the KS, who are allowed to sell their product as soon as they receive it (they're backers too!)

[elfin wren]

I don't think The Stormlight Starter sets were part of the retail pledge.

[dark escarp]

Fair point, hard to say. There was something about an event kit that may have morphed into this, might not have

[prime cloak]

https://youtu.be/oM6Tox9x9OA?si=irDP4CScVxJH0YWE

This looks really good! What an all-star cast as well!

[fervent reef]

Oh no, they got animators

And I swear I heard a Wilhelm screem

[prime cloak]

Yeah I heard it too haha!

But I really like the set they made and the effects are way cool

[tender citrus]

PURELAKE!

[lofty thicket]

I'm still hoping we get some form of playable supplement for this

[umbral heath]

I got the impression that there was a one shot and this was sort of an advertisement for it.

[safe dawn]

When reading the Short Rest rule, it appears like it drastically looses in usefulness on higher levels. Recovering a single digit amount of health when your PC has like 50 does not seem like that much especially since long rest recover you to full anyways.

[lapis yoke]

You can recover focus, though, which is very strong

[safe dawn]

Well, but the argument can't be that you always go with one option because the other one is drastically underpowered. Like, the balance is still off then.

[lapis yoke]

I personally don't see this as a problem, tough I do see your point

[safe dawn]

For me it's like: If a feature has no real use, it should not exist. I do think Short Rests should exist, but they seem a bit lacking at the moment for my taste making them feel a bit useless. Though yeah, for focus Short Rests are great.

[lapis yoke]

My group has barely used them after several sessions, and we're still in Tier 1. The one time we did, it was helpful, but again mostly for focus. I imagine the feature is there primarily for non-Radiant groups who need a way to recover something between encounters

I'm not passing final judgment until I see what the Mistborn rules are like, because we don't have a full idea of the scope of the system while it's limited to Roshar

[safe dawn]

True, I think I personally am more exited for Mistborn than for Stormlight Rules. The Surges are like really powerful, Allomancy still is but it feels a lot less flashy and doesn't have insane healing. Plus, I know more people who read Mistborn than people who read the Stormlight Archive and you can't exactly give someone the Stormlight Handbook and expect them to not find major spoilers ||especially regarding the Singers|| (Major Spoilers for Oathbringer).

[lapis yoke]

Mhm. I've run into that as well.

[prisma wharf]

Tbh, I think the mistborn handbook will have major spoilers too

[safe dawn]

Yes, but I know more people who read Mistborn. Which isn’t that unusual, there are good reasons why every reading order for the Cosmere puts Stormlight later than Mistborn.

[dawn isle]

YEAH OK THAT EXPLAINS A LOT

Well that's nice at least

I was seriously starting to wonder where it went

[prime cloak]

Im in the same boat, just got that email as well

Considering the retail launch is tomorrow I was like "uh, where is my stuff 🥺👉👈"

[flat fulcrum]

For me, that's a good trade-off.

[prime cloak]

I do appreciate the transparency. Ultimately I do just want my stuff

[potent epoch]

Same, though my rpg groups haven't been able to meet in forever so I'm in no rush. Nice to know we'll be first fulfilled next year though

[elfin wren]

Didn't get such email in the EU. I'm going to guess I'll be the last one next year too. 🙂

[finite epoch]

good news is my order is already in customs
bad news is my order is in Brazilian customs

[vital bolt]

Yayboo.

[dawn isle]

Yay I got my shipping email finally!

[lofty thicket]

Same

[potent epoch]

Mine arrived today! Very pretty slipcover

[slow crown]

I got the physical versions of the books! And the Dice is so gorgeous! 😁

[finite epoch]

man, I hope they sell the liquid core dice after the Kickstarter
I couldn't justify adding them to my pledge but they look so cool

[slow crown]

Same here, I hope everybody can get this someday. They’re just so gorgeous! 😁

[dark escarp]

They will definitely be selling them at Nexus this year, and I would expect them to be sold online not long after that

[paper eagle]

I’m excited too. Didn’t back the kickstarter, but getting them from my local games store, I managed to order some and they told me yesterday that they came in, and I’m picking them up on the weekend. They were confused as to why I wasn’t informed though.

[slow crown]

I’m curious where I can read about character creation? That’s in the Handbook, correct?

[finite epoch]

yeah

it's, uh, chapter 1

[slow crown]

Thanks. 😁

[slow crown]

It’s been awhile since I read the rulebook, so I’m getting back into it, since I finally got the physical versions. And there are chapters that help you with your skill tree for your character sheet? Because I’m starting to memorize what to put in my attributes, but still trying to remember where to find the 12 points that you can put into your attributes for a level 1 character. The skills modifiers in the middle of the sheet is also kinda confusing, but I’m getting there.

It’s great that this game is popular enough to get so many YouTube videos explaining how to make a character on your character sheet, and other things.

[slow crown]

Speaking of YouTube, Brotherwise Games just dropped multiple videos explaining the Cosmere RPG! Nice! 😁

[finite epoch]

but still trying to remember where to find the 12 points that you can put into your attributes for a level 1 character.
page 18

starting at page 15 there's a step by step process

[slow crown]

Thanks!

[prime cloak]

FINALLY got my stuff!

[slow crown]

Awesome!

[delicate moth]

whoops, I forgot to open #1438633216369229874

[finite epoch]

...and customs rejected it
because of course they did
s i g h
now to wait another 3 months or so

[flat fulcrum]

Oh, I'm from Brazil too. 🤝🏼

[flat fulcrum]

What? Why did they reject it?

[finite epoch]

"insufficiently detailed information", apparently

I've already filed a complaint and notified QM Logistics
now I just have to see if I can actually get my stuff any time soon

[flat fulcrum]

Would you have preferred to get Tria's version if you had known they were going to publish it?

[finite epoch]

this is the first time I'm hearing of this

[flat fulcrum]

Oh, you didn't know? It's going to be released in Portuguese here.

[finite epoch]

well, if this falls through I know where to get it now, lol

-# and how to maybe get my friends to play it, though I'm not exactly holding my Breath for that

[flat fulcrum]

https://triaeditora.com.br/cosmererpg/

[finite epoch]

yeah, I found it

pretty cool

didn't expect it this fast

[flat fulcrum]

It's been on sale since June.

But we'll only receive the PDFs maybe at the end of the month.

And the physical shipments should wait until December.

[flat fulcrum]

I recommend following this Brazilian fan page; whenever there's something about Brandon here in Brazil, you can see it there.

https://www.instagram.com/cosmerecentral

[finite epoch]

I don't use instagram, but thanks for the suggestion

I haven't really been keeping in touch with the Brazilian fandom, I mostly interact here

[delicate moth]

they are in other places too, if you care https://linktr.ee/cosmerecentral

-# but this is all you need

[finite epoch]

yeah, just found their Twitter

and now their bsky, thanks Argent

[delicate moth]

the b stands for 'best'

[flat fulcrum]

Bsky isn't updated as frequently because most Brazilians don't use this social network.

[flat fulcrum]

Returning to the subject of the RPG, it's interesting to note that it will be released before Rhythm of War, so some names may be different between the two.

But there was nothing they could do; the publisher that publishes the books here in Brazil needs to comply with copyright laws and couldn't release them before the launch (which will be in December).

But only a few names will be different, such as the types of Brands of Fused or items that only appear after the fourth book.

[finite epoch]

will be interesting to contrast and compare the translations

I like to see how they handle the untranslatable words

"crenguejo" remains a highlight of Trama's translation for me
the name just clicks

[flat fulcrum]

We hope that next year, when they release the Mistborn setting, they won't need to resort to that.

[flat fulcrum]

We expect Brandon to announce it at the State of the Sanderson, but it's almost certain that Mistborn Era 2 will be published here in 2026, so all the Mistborn books should be translated and released before the Mistborn RPG setting arrives in Brazil.

[flat fulcrum]

Yes, I particularly like Trama's translations quite a lot.

[flat fulcrum]

Let's wait and see.

[signal cloak]

Was looking around for local D&D/RPG groups the other day and ended up in a Discord server where the most recent messages were someone looking for Cosmere RPG players, now I have myself a group to play with. I'm looking forward to it. 😁

[paper eagle]

I GOT THEM! I GOT THEM! The Stormlight world guide and handbook! AAAAHHHH! They look amazing!

[dawn isle]

Mine are here now too!!!

I'm running Bridge 9 for my board game group on Monday for them to see whether they like it

[rare narwhal]

my stuff just arrived today too 🎉

[pallid plinth]

I GOT IT FINALLY!!!! Trans people being cannon brings me so much joy (i think a wob canonized it a while back but i just am glad now we have text that confirms it)

[elfin wren]

Trans people are in the books as well. Notably the Reshi King.

[delicate moth]

Still a good thing to hammer in

make it so it's no one-offs

[dawn isle]

I like that the Shin people seem to recognize non-binary people already

[delicate moth]

the -child- infix was nice, yeah

[stray sand]

Vorinism also """recognises""" ardents as nonbinary

idk if they should get credit for that though

[mint blade]

I don't think that should count. They don't count as male or female for certain restrictions but it's very clear they're still seen as either genders aside from one or two specific ardents who actually are nonbinary

[fervent reef]

I remember debating this fairly recently as it happens
#cosmere message

[tender citrus]

I mean Ironically this isnt a binary

[umbral heath]

Also, Rushu actually being nonbinary is treated like an unusual thing, and something they relate more to the Sibling than other ardents.

[river heron]

Hey everyone! I’m working on building a one shot in Rall Elorim. I’m trying to remember, do we know anything about the motivations of the Fused who rule there during the Desolation besides the two sentences the world guide says?

[tender citrus]

uhhhhhhhhhh, yes but I think it is spoilers for ||Stonewalkers||

[river heron]

Oh! Thank you! That is helpful.

I will check my copy of that again.

[tender citrus]

disclaimer: I havent actually read it myself but I know it appears there so I assume there is something

-# so dont sue me

[river heron]

Found it! Very helpful! Thank you!

[latent wraith]

Hey everyone! My older brother just got me the Cosmere RPG stuff and I’m so excited to play with him but i need to ask if something is balanced for a tier two character

i wanna design a unique fabrial that uses conjoined fabrials to make one conjoined fabrial move more than the other

but mechanically i want it incorporate it into “3/4 shard”

which would give +2 speed +1 strength and also have deflect two that can be raised to 7 by activating a charge (3 total charges)

would this be a balanced tier 2 fabrial?

sorry for the lengthy message XD i’m just very excited lol

[dark escarp]

Seems very strong to me. There are very few effects that increase Attributes or deflect. For comparison, an existing Tier 2 fabrial effect is to just increase deflect by 2.

[latent wraith]

oh wow

yeah

might be quite strong

tier 3 maybe?

or possibly tier 2 but with a 1 deflect boost and 2 charges that raise it to 3

and 1 str 1 speed

And enhance only applies while it has charges

is that more balanced or nah?

[latent wraith]

is this not +2 deflect to existing armor tho?

this fabrial would count as armor

[dark escarp]

Yes, with the option to bump by +5 is more what I was referring to

I think it will generally be more at home at Tier 3, and even then it should probably still be weaker than, or at least substantively different to, Shardplate

[latent wraith]

the point is that it’s weaker plate so yeah lol

[slow crown]

I was wondering why Bondsmiths are not a Path to use in the game? Is it because there are only 3 Bondsmiths at a time, and those 3 are spoken for during the events of the books?

[fervent reef]

Two are, and BS are too OP

[flat spoke]

Mechanically, they're nigh impossible to balance, its just not worth it. They're too strong and their powers too nebulous to gamify in a way that doesn't give them an inherent advantage over other PCs, radiant or no

[burnt topaz]

My coworker bought me everything for the rpg for Christmas. It came into work, we popped the boxes open to put the books on shelves and he just started handing me stuff

[prime cloak]

The rules allow you to be a Bondsmith squire technically. You would just level into the surges and wouldn't have any options for spren bond talents

I think it would be very cool to play a bondsmith squire, but thats a very specific build that I imagine you have to really work with your GM to have

[slow crown]

Really? Why is that?

[loud ingot]

Bondsmithing is honestly basically a soft magic system

Imo

Stormlight? (Do I need to tag?) ||like, the connection hacks can basically be justified to do anything you want. Or at least a crazy level of things. I can't imagine how difficult that would be to make work on the same playing field as windrunners or edgedancers||

[stark garden]

Also I mean, the ability to at-will break the resource limit of the game for all of characters using Investiture is pretty crazy

"Don't worry guys, we have infinite Investiture this combat when I open the perpendicularity"

A perpendicularity which also lets you immediately go between realms, just snagging what elsecallers can do

Bondsmithing could be its own entire magic system, and I hope/suspect we see systems much more focused on manipulation of Connection and slowly working up different ways to utilize it within different limitations

[vital bolt]

We might, especially if we get useful rules for F-Duraluminium next year.

[lofty thicket]

All my homies say f duralumin

[stray sand]

For what it's worth, you can be a Bondsmith squire

[rare narwhal]

you don't need to tag Stormlight here! full cosmere spoilers allowed

[loud ingot]

Couldnt find the spoiler level so figured I'd play it safe 😅

[stray sand]

Always check in pins

[loud ingot]

Ahh forgot pins

Was looking for channel description

[rare narwhal]

yeah unfortunately forum posts don't have those

[signal cloak]

Played for the first time last night and it was a blast! Turns out a level 2 medic with a +7 in medicine is insanely powerful. Which is good because it’s literally the only thing I have going for me, I’m trash in a fight otherwise. 😅

[delicate moth]

A good (Cosmere) RPG campaign isn't meant to be huge on combat!

Admittedly, medicine becomes a little less useful if people are not punching or stabbing each other around you, but we can always hope for work accidents!

[signal cloak]

We have four out of six budding Radiants (including myself) in the group as well which will start making it less useful 😭

[vital bolt]

Plus 7...?

[signal cloak]

Erudition is one hell of a talent. It lets you gain extra skill points and bypass the skill point maximum. There's talents that add on top of Erudition that do effectively the same thing but in the different categories (Erudition you can only put into cognitive skills, the other one I have lets me put into spiritual skills as well now). It also gives you an extra cultural or utility expertises.

Oh you can also just... reassign these specific skill points and expertise if you're in a library? A later talent lets you just do it at will? Anywhere? I've been calling it the Coppermind talent in my head seeing as you can have virtually any expertise whenever you want, wherever you want...

[fervent reef]

A library? Don't you mean the book-quatermaster depot-place?

[signal cloak]

Writing that one down to use on my DM

[delicate moth]

banned for bringing up past trauma

[vital bolt]

Yeah, I have Erudition and whatever hte next one is called on my level 8 character, and I don't think I have +7 to anything...

[trim sand]

You can have +3 intellect, +2 medicine, +1 erudition, at least. Not sure where the extra +1 is coming from on lady's character. But at level 3/6/etc you can increase intellect further, and the sp cap increases too

I have +7 crafting on my level 3 artifabrian

[vital bolt]

Mmm, I had slightly misremembered. I have one +7 at level 8 (including Erudition).

[signal cloak]

+3 intellect, +2 medicine, +1 erudition, +1 emotional intelligence

[latent wraith]

Are artifabrians viable in combat? the standard fabrials are pretty underwhelming, and the unique ones are reward or that one talent only

can an artifabrian work in stonewalkers with a three person party?

[prisma wharf]

I'm playing an artifabrian who is also specced into strength and I do fairly well in combat. You're much better off trying to be a support person in general as well with one, using the fabrials to make it easier for the rest of the party

[trim sand]

I thought emotional intelligence gets you an additional erudition skill, not more ranks in an existing erudition skill?

[signal cloak]

I'm not really seeing the distinction and Demiplane accepted it without trouble.

[trim sand]

Like with just erudition you can't +2 medicine, it's gotta be 2 different skills. All the other talents that modify erudition say the same thing

[signal cloak]

Erudition explicitly says different skills, emotional intelligence doesn't.

[trim sand]

Emotional intelligence says "your Erudition talent grants you an additional skill" and erudition says "you count as having one
additional rank of each of the chosen skills". Wouldn't make sense to choose one skill twice, and erudition says you only have 1 additional rank in it

[signal cloak]

Euridition doesn't say you only have one additional rank, it specifically says "choose two different skills". Those aren't the same thing. Also Demiplane shouldn't allow it if that's the case but it does

[trim sand]

Yeah probably a demiplane bug

"An additional skill" from emotional intelligence really doesn't make sense to choose one you already have

And EI is not like purely a standalone talent, it is modifying erudition so it has to play by the same rules as base erudition

[signal cloak]

.... by that logic you could claim anything is a bug

[trim sand]

I don't think I am making a baseless claim, I am trying to explain my reading of what the literal rules text says

Idk I enjoy discussing the intricacies of game mechanics. I can drop the topic though if you'd like

[signal cloak]

And I'm disagreeing with you and giving evidence why. If the answer to 'the system that makes character sheets works like this' is 'well it must be a bug because it doesn't fit what I'm saying' then what's the point in trusting the system at all?

[trim sand]

Personally I place more trust in the source text itself as opposed to an external implementation of the rules. Even if the implementation was built in partnership, I wouldn't treat it as the primary source of truth. Valid to disagree with that perspective though

[signal cloak]

I mean I also genuinely read the source text differently to you

[trim sand]

Fair! Just don't see it myself

[vital bolt]

My read of Emotional Intelligence was the same as Cala's, so I didn't even consider that as an option for where the other +1 would be coming from. :)

[gentle jolt]

Emotional Intelligence and Mind and Body are just modifications of Erudition that give you additional skills and open up Spiritual and Physical skills as options, right?

(Don’t have the book in front of me)

[prisma wharf]

Yep

[dark escarp]

Yeah just for additional clarity on the wording here, it specifically says it is modifying the original Erudition talent, which means all the original rules (that aren’t explicitly overwritten, like being able to use physical/spiritual skills) still apply

So any skills you choose are still chosen with Erudition, which requires you to choose different skills

Also fun fact, there is yet another talent that modifies Erudition, and it’s not even in the Scholar talent tree: Forms of Wisdom! Grants scholarform to singers, and lets them pick not just another skill, but another expertise too!

[vital bolt]

Ahh, Mind and Body is the one I took so I had some combat ability...

[dawn isle]

Just ran Bridge 9 for my family and it actually went REALLY well. I'm getting more confident in the ruleset.
Also we actually finished in a single session lmao

The problem is they want to keep going so now I'm going to have to make stuff up as I go

[prisma wharf]

Thats just how I gm anyway for most systems unless I have a prewritten adventure

Qell, I plot out a general idea, but dont get into the details for more than a session in advance

So that im not tempted to railroad

[dawn isle]

I probably need the practice lol. That's the part of GMing i kinda suck at

I'm actually really excited about it though

[prime cloak]

Yeah, Cosmere rpg is like the one system that gets me excited about GMing. No idea why though. But i definitely felt the same excitement when I ran the beta rules with bridge 9

[slow crown]

Yeah, I’m actually excited to GM Stormlight, because there’s so much to do as a GM. And so much to memorize. 😁

[dire flame]

think that might be the first time I've seen someone actively support increased cognitive load

[slow crown]

Well I’ve been somewhat practicing with Pathfinder, which can be a crunchy game. I’m not GMing, but I’m assisting and helping out with some of the mechanics. So I’m preparing myself on how to deal with the Crunchiness of the Cosmere RPG. Because there is a lot of mechanics to memorize for the GM. Like not just the Dice and the character builds, but the stats for monsters and classes as well. Like wow! 😂

[lapis yoke]

I will say, I've found the Cosmere RPG easier to GM than d&d

That's just me, but it's a lot more fun!

[prime cloak]

I think a big thing that helps is using the phy/cog/spir defense scores as DCs. I always had a hard time coming up DCs in dnd but I love being able to just look at a stat block to have a baseline for a DC

[dire flame]

Arbitrary DCs are bleh, true

[gentle jolt]

Less math is always a +

In my book at least

[slow crown]

I had a great experience DMing DnD, but initiative during combat was super slow. So I went the Shadowdark route during the next combat sessions and just go in a circle with players turns. I’m gonna figure out to make the traditional initiative work for DnD 5e for me next time. But I really like how combat and initiative order functions with the Stormlight RPG.

[lapis yoke]

Yeah, that's the biggest difference for me as well. I really like CRPG combat and initiative