Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

[rocky raptor]

I think my biggest qol gripe with the game atm is i can't sort my Pictos by whether i've mastered the Lumina or not

[dawn spindle]

Yes

[pulsar citrus]

I have the same gripe but I have a few different gripes that are a bit more for me but even those I can't complain a lot or I feel like a repeating parrot

[dawn spindle]

QoL gripe for me it's definetely the menus

even though they're better now than on release they still have a lot of room for improvement on like, what should be basic features (such as what Mori said)

[exotic ember]

What I wouldn’t give for a basic text search to search in names and descriptions

Or to favorite certain ones on a per-character level

There’s plenty of good stuff one could do

But of course having only one UI engineer makes things challenging undoubtedly

[errant wedge]

Props to the one UI engineer for getting Lumina Sets together, that was a big W.

[exotic ember]

Yeah definitely agree

Will make it much more pleasant to experiment with builds

I’m increasingly looking forward to doing a counters only run on ng+ with no revives at some point

But it will be a while before I can make time for that

[brisk orbit]

got em

[brisk orbit]

E33 End? ||Decide the fate of the Canvas.||

||So if I choose Maelle, she stays in the Canvas but dies in the real world. But if I choose Verso, she gets forced back to the real world?||

||I mean, like Alicia, Maelle should be able to decide her fate... Right?||

[nova temple]

That's the question

[brisk orbit]

E33 End ||I chose Maelle and the Canvas||

||The song Alicia playing at the end was so good!||

Amazing game. I think this beats BG3 for me! One of the best games I've ever played!

Whaat Why do I see Korean names in the credits

When I replay this game, I'm gonna be a parry master!

E33 End ||So the little boy.. That was part of Verso's soul? That's how I interpreted it.||

||Should I go online and search what would happen if I chose the other ending, or shall I replay this game later and experience it myself?||

[merry lance]

||There's a flag right before the last boss, it's pretty quick to experience it yourself||

[brisk orbit]

||I think this is one of the rare instances where the villain, Renoir, was truly right||

[exotic ember]

|| I personally looked it up even though I did beat the game a second time shortly after the first time on another platform. I had to know ||

[exotic ember]

You know all those wild enemy animations?

And how they went incredibly hard?

That was their work

[brisk orbit]

||It would be more fulfilling if I redid it though. I see this New Game+ option and it's very compelling!||

[brisk orbit]

cool!

[exotic ember]

Welcome to the party! 🎉 It’s definitely my all time favorite game, having ousted Doom Eternal from the #1 spot

[exotic ember]

|| Have you done all the act 3 content yet? If not, I do recommend. There’s a really fun fight, particularly if you enjoy parrying ||

[brisk orbit]

||Nope. There's a lot of bosses I skipped||

E33 End ||Dang.. I see a lot of people that chose the Verso ending.||

[errant wedge]

Indeed, here's one of them: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSMcERWibzU/

sylvan_kim

Yesterday, “Clair Obscur: Expedition 33” was named Game of the Year at The Game Awards. With a total of 9 awards, the game has achieved a truly historic milestone.

Having my name engraved in the credits of a GOTY title and knowing that my animations live and breathe within Expedition 33 makes this a deeply proud and meaningful moment in my ...

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Random Jenn / Ben / Kirsty Rider hilarity, no spoilers: https://www.instagram.com/p/DSfPGUDgPUy/

misskaira933

I've been struggling to find the words of how proud I am of the entire Expedition 33 team, so I channeled it into my first ever E33 animatic from @jenniferjenglish and @_alionabaranova Jingle Jam stream featuring @the_ben_starr and @kirsty__rider

I want to say congrats to all the nominees and to Jen for her performance and award. Your speech t...

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[pulsar citrus]

Act 3 New DLC || Verso's Drafts || || Can somebody tell me what I am supposed to do here, I just can't seem to make the jump to the blue platform ever ||

||This time I even got the climb animation and I still somehow fell down ||

[exotic ember]

Did you see this one from them? It goes so hard https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRAfL06Daq1/?igsh=MTh1bWhwdzVjYmh1aA==

kenseithomas

Expedition 33 X Avatar

I stumbled across Sylvans animation and instantly thought what if the Curator had Avatar the last airbender type powers. This gave birth to this animation, I feel like this is an homage to a bunch of inspirations I’ve consumed this year including demonslayer for that famous Tanjiro beheading Rui fight .

Had a lot of fu...

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[rocky raptor]

Act 2 ||Watching Jesse Cox fight the Dualliste and realizing I killed it so fast I didn't see almost any of its moveset xD||

[brisk orbit]

I'm going to try to find all the doors next time

Is there a shorter version of Une vie a t'aimer?

[errant wedge]

(yeah I actually ran this search and it actually hallucinates this)

[errant wedge]

Tho the actual search results are also hilarious. If you actually know nothing about the game and have made an assumption that there are 32 prior games then the internet will run with that.

[candid kindle]

Silly AI doesn’t know there are actually 67 previous games you have to play smh

[errant wedge]

Yeah only GameFAQs got this one right. 😔

[nova temple]

prequel

[rocky raptor]

im having a hell of a time
first the power cuts out when im about to start a fight
then when i relaunch the audio doesnt work
and now the game's bugged out just as i was about to win a fight and is stuck on an enemy's turn

...i restarted the fight and it happened again on the same enemy

[rocky raptor]

...won that fight
doing a different fight with same enemy type
stuck on their turn again

apparently this is just a known softlock they havent fixed

[nova temple]

huh after all this time?

[rocky raptor]

quick, rescind all their awards

[brisk orbit]

I miss this game already!

[rocky raptor]

Act 2 ||Visage|| ||That fight went by, so fast. I might have to watch someone else do it to see all the mechanics xD||

[nova temple]

^ ||Did you end up shooting the masks as they came out of the mirror?||

[rocky raptor]

||I defeated it within a single turn of the first mask appearing xD, didnt even get a chance for it to come back around to my designated shooter
and i defeated the second part...really quickly also||

Also
Act 2 ||Im about ready to grab Verso and shake him like a ragdoll. Tell me your secrets!!||

[nova temple]

||He's been nothing but honest and has neither lied nor concealed the truth not even once||

[sullen quartz]

Yes, there is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HEToPQ3Je4

It's on the bonus album. I say "shorter", but only in that it's 7 minutes long instead of 11. This arrangement removes some of the mellower parts of the song and some of the repeated segments.

[brisk orbit]

omg so good!

[brisk orbit]

I'm watching moistcritkal fight this one boss and I realize how hard I was on myself because I literally did not dodge for the back half of the game

I only parried

[brisk orbit]

https://youtu.be/v0eRJjBLJyw?si=O-GRhi_Ie_1iTnvR

[exotic ember]

This is the way

[exotic ember]

So YouTube has been throwing a lot of E33 content at me naturally and I’ve been checking some out here and there.

I don’t watch let’s plays really, but this guy got algorithmed twice now and both have been quite entertaining. This is someone who apparently has mainly played shooters his whole life and seems to be a content creator for Destiny 2. So this may be his first RPG? Which does show in some ways haha
https://youtu.be/R4AuE0fJdQs?si=iqQkhx0uFSO9m0xB

https://youtu.be/Xn2Jw4kUrAY?si=CsrWK_zuHfPdmJmd

[errant wedge]

https://fixvx.com/Dexerto/status/2003103589011726473

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Shroud says he likes Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 after playing the game on stream

“He [Asmongold] said when I play this game after it wins Game of the Year, I’m gonna enjoy it. Dare I say he was right?”

vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 22, 2025, 2:01 PM

The biggest hater has been converted. GG

[brisk orbit]

guys

How mamy times have you replayed this game?

I'm thinking of replaying because I rushed a lot

[fallow geode]

geeze, how many hours do you even have in this?

[brisk orbit]

45?

[fallow geode]

I won't be replaying, but I've been doing literally everything I can

[brisk orbit]

I have to check

[fallow geode]

coming up on 80 and I haven't even ended Act 3 yet

[brisk orbit]

[fallow geode]

Act 3 ||I've been avoiding returning to Lumiere and doing all of the side content instead||

I suspect I'm a worse player as you as well TBF

it sounds like you breezed through some fights I struggled with

[brisk orbit]

oh really?

[fallow geode]

I couldn't point to any specific examples though

[reef iron]

i haven't replayed

i have 60-some hours

[reef iron]

hmm, is there something confusing with my answer? 😅

[brisk orbit]

Nah I just like using that emoji

I'm getting recommended BG3 YT videos with E33 music in them and it's so odd!

[rocky raptor]

I'm currently at 59.3 hours and i'm still in Act 2 xD

[brisk orbit]

dang

[pulsar citrus]

8 stopped playing before the DLC on some 80 hours.

Although a good majority of those might have been on just one boss.

Now it is around 92 hours. But now having struggled with 2 of the newer bosses.

E33 DLC || Verso's Drafts || || Also because I couldn't find how to open the door despite getting the cake. ||

[rocky raptor]

Act 2 ||Beat Sirene. Only content left for me is "Dangerous". One I don't have a good strategy for, another is genuinely crazy hard, and the last I could probably do but has an enemy that sometimes softlocks the game so I don't wanna deal with it till I can almost 1 turn wipe every battle.||

[rocky raptor]

My current crazy speculation as of where I am in Act 2 ||Literally every person is actually a creation, and some of them are recreations of specific people from the group or family the Paintress was part of.||

[nova temple]

What level are you?

[rocky raptor]

Level? Uh...50 something?

[nova temple]

That sounds about right for where you are

There are some areas that are available to you that you are not meant to do in Act 2

[rocky raptor]

I feel like I"m almost at the point where i'll need to start like...redistributing my attribute points.
I just need more stronger pictos xD

[nova temple]

Nah, hoard those reset thingies until you are done with the game

commit to your bad/uninformed choices

I didn't reset my points until I was already a man

[rocky raptor]

I probably need to take a step back from the habit im in and actually reteach myself how to properly use some characters' gimicks

A gameplay question ||When a skill says "sets self-Health to 1" what does that mean? That it knocks my health all the way down to 1? Cause that seems crazy||

[candid kindle]

Gameplay || It does indeed knock your health all the way down to one ||

[rocky raptor]

||I'm gonna have to go back over those skills cause that's crazy for a character i'm pretty sure doesn't have that strong a healing capability||

[candid kindle]

Gameplay || No need to heal if the boss is the dead! Also the skill does not remove any shields so that can also keep you alive ||

[brisk orbit]

I might use Une vie a t'aimer as a new song that I play during epic moments in my books

I used "To Sail Forbidden Seas" before

[dawn spindle]

I haven't finished the game and I'm at 137h

I am however nearly almost fully done with everything but the ending and the DLC

But since I refuse to do the fight I'm currently doing in any other way, it's going to take a while

I don't remember what my ingame file says though

[exotic ember]

I’ve played the game twice so far. 10 hours on PC, then I went to my gf’s place and had to keep playing so I bought it again on PS5 and then continued on PS5 until I beat it, taking it back and forth between my place and hers, then I beat the game on PC after I finished it on PS5 so I could do all the post game on PC.

I do want to do a NG+ run at some point. Definitely get the urge to play it again

Steam says I have 108 hours. My in game save on there the other day said I have about 80 hours I believe

And the PS5 I had 30-40 hours in the in game save

[brisk orbit]

whaat

So you don't know the ending yet?

[dawn spindle]

Nope

[brisk orbit]

I don't think I'm happy with my build rn to do a NG+ so I'm thinking of redoing it normally

[brisk orbit]

Crazy. It'll shock you

[dawn spindle]

I doubt it, but hopefully you're right and I'll eat my words

[brisk orbit]

I hope so too

anyways

I've been singing Alicia, and pronouncing Verso in french is so much fun

[rocky raptor]

gahhhhh
Act 2 ||I got so close with Sprong but i missed two different parries that wiped both teams. oh well. come back when im stronger.||

[errant wedge]

There are very good buildcrafting reasons to do this but only in the Act 3 / lategame meta.

[errant wedge]

Act 2 ||Monoco on a Shield-spamming build using Cruler Barrier helps with this a lot.||

Speaking of Act 3 mechanics, E33 <mechanics> ALL ||People have gotten Lune with her new strongest weapon post-DLC up into the billions of damage with Elemental Genesis, on a short setup. I think it's still lower than Maelle's peak on a single target but having 2+ targets increases both the total damage output (obviously) and also the amount that each target takes.||

[rocky raptor]

Act 2 ||Monolith|| ||Inside Monolith|| ||What do you mean Expedition 70 made it here?? xDD||

oh no
||something about the battle arena in this zone is tanking my framerate||

[rocky raptor]

Act 2 ||I think i've hit the point of no return for this act and now i'm stressing over whether i need to do more xD||

[nova temple]

||You are not going to get locked out of anything!||

[rocky raptor]

||Good to know, thanks. Sitting right at lvl 61 with my main squad and as pictod and luminad up as i think i can get||

[rocky raptor]

...I don't know how to tag this

[nova temple]

That's promising

[rocky raptor]

Uh
Act 2 ||Post Final Boss of Act 2|| ||Epilogue|| ||Just started. WHAT WAS THAT. HOW, HOW GAME KEEP HAPPEN WHAT||

[errant wedge]

🍿

[rocky raptor]

I can already tell i'm going to desperately need a sequel

[errant wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-sciel-okay-okge-gif-11326968317664794319

[rocky raptor]

oh god the game broke really bad

I literally could not see a cutscene cause every object in it broke

had to hard quit to make sure i didn't miss the cutscene

[nova temple]

There's a lot going on here

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||I don't know how I feel about still controlling Verso at camp during the act named after Maelle. I get there's probably reasons, it just feels...structurally weird||

[nova temple]

That surprised me too

[brisk orbit]

||Probably because of the relationship points||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Esquie saved Sciel 😭 ||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||I am, so very confused||

||I finally looked it up. ...I guess I forgot to buy Gustave's stuff from them???||

[nova temple]

Yeah, maybe

[brisk orbit]

https://youtu.be/0s0xbeDbz7c?si=wrIC0p478M-obR0q

I might learn this!

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Flew around to uncover the map, but after 3 failed attempts at new overworld enemies, i and my headache are calling it for the night xD
I'll expedition later||

||Now to go watch Jesse react to the madness xD
Can't wait for him to feel simultaneously vindicated and flabbergasted like I was.
Was cool that I was right about everyone not being real. Did not expect the whole...inside a Canvas bit.||

[rocky raptor]

Act 2 ||Watching Jesse fight Renoir is making me think I was definitely overpowered for that fight xD||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Oh, I totally missed the dogs in the Epilogue, that's so cute||

[rocky raptor]

I think I have a single bit of annoyance regarding something with the narrative and gameplay (very general) ||Pictos as a game mechanic don't at all match how the characters talk about pictos.||

[pulsar citrus]

Yes but that is because E33 gen || when they talk about Pictod they are talking about their magic in general.

Remember that some people imbue Pictos on their body, which is just a roundabout way of saying that they have magic (Lune's and Sciel's different powers.)

Even the weapon abilities are considered Pictos narrative wise. This is what Maelle means when she says that Curator upgraded her Pictos.

Gameplay wise they decided to not call literally everything in the game Pictos and gave a specific thing to be called Pictos. ||

[brisk orbit]

ok I'm doing it

E33 replay!

E33 Prolouge ||I wonder how Gustave lost his arm||

||There's an Expedition Academy?||

The nevrons are going to be so shocked when they see me fight!

Prolouge ||So I think Gustave is 31 years old? He's going on the Expedition a year before his Gommage||

Prolouge ||Ohh. There was a statue of Esquie in the prolouge!||

[brisk orbit]

Prolouge ||Ohhh. It was Lune that was playing the guitar at the beginning||

Would you have children in this world?

[brisk orbit]

Act 1 music is so good

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||It seems that Verso was the one who left the message on the tree?||

||If he was going to help E33 find Maelle in the first place, why didn't he join them earlier? Why join them in Act 2?||

[merry lance]

E33 All ||He didn't want to have to share with Gustave||

E33 All ||More seriously, he felt he needed some sort of grand gesture to convince the Expedition he was on their side, and the gesture he settled on was protecting them from Renoir.||

E33 All ||Fun fact: If you pay attention during the landing cutscene, you can spot Verso grabbing Maelle and running away with her. Presumably he's also responsible for Gustave surviving the blast that ends that cutscene.||

[brisk orbit]

cool!

[brisk orbit]

Ugh, maybe I should dodge

that would make my life so much easier

[dawn spindle]

But parry 👉 👈

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||How do we see the Curator if he's trapped under the monolith?||

[rocky raptor]

that resolves, none of my issue

it actually actively created confusion at the gameplay mechanics

[pulsar citrus]

I am not saying that what they implemented were perfect.

But I do think this comes from them overhauling both the story and the gameplay mechanics of the early design of the game.

E 33

Act 3 + DLC || Endless Tower || || Just when I thought that Duoliste was an actually doable boss. They pull out the second hidden phase. I had to find a different build with Verso around Simoso and I still lost because the one single grace I had before of them attacking the party singly so I can by luck parry and easy attack to survive, survive if they attack Verso then revive with Tints, revive with Line's ability.

And Blast them with some 12 million damage whenever Gommage is ready with Esquim and sacrificing 5 APs then Last Chance to give it the oomph it needs.

Other than that I was struggling with that fight, but now that it targets the whole expedition I don't know if I could do much against it.

This guy is just as bad as Chromatic Lamp master||

[pulsar citrus]

Same || the problem with Lampmaster is that sometimes it is showing that my turn would come first so I plan according to that only for Lampmaster to go first and then target the very member that was going to go next. ||

|| is there some mechanic that makes it cut turns sometimes? It happened with Revive Paradox based turn too. But I let that slide because perhaps it is because of some of party members died so it gaines some speed (that was my hypothesis for the hidden mechanic at least)

But sometimes it cuts turns when it was going to go after all my party members. For example, I had just come from a turn of both Lune and Verso and the turn wheel had shown the normal Lume, Verso, Maelle and then Lampmaster in the Turn order and so was finally Maelle's turn but Lampmaster just suddenly cuts the line and gets in to attack Maelle. I was not ready for that. I had planned the actions of all my party members by Maelle being able to use Gommage. ||

[candid kindle]

dlc || It definitely has some weird mechanic that gives it extra turns that don't show in the turn order. So does Duolliste, I'm pretty sure. From what I could figure out for Lampmaster, the color of the extra lives lamps indicate when it will get an extra turn ||

[pulsar citrus]

|| it definitely hurts much because unlike Duolliste where I could parry some of the moves but takes damage here and there so I could try to make them tankier.

But Lampmaster's attacks are too erratic and I have never been able to defend myself against them much. Even the self heal is somehow able to remove burns (and all these extra turn it gets) makes even a burn based builds near impossible to work with. ||

[errant wedge]

DLC ||Endless Tower superbosses|| ||Duolliste has two special mechanics: it does not take Break damage at all, and its second phase will get a turn after each player character gets a turn.|| ||Chroma Lampmaster can interrupt even Cheater turns to initiate its Plunge Into Darkness. Usually it 'leaping up' the turn order is because of a Slow effect wearing off and/or player characters' Rush wearing off, iirc.||

[pulsar citrus]

|| I think at this point I should just leave, If I am having this much problem with these two I don't think I could do Clea and Simon ( I haven't even visited them) Plus my B team is pathetically weak.||

[pulsar citrus]

I use neither mostly

From what I recall at least

But maybe I do and don't realise

I would take better notice next time.

[candid kindle]

dlc || I found Clea and Simon to be a lot easier than Lampmaster (since they are more vulnerable to overwhelming damage) ||

[errant wedge]

DLC ||Lampmaster was pretty easy for me. It neither has that much health overall, just 6 different small bars, and it doesn't do that much damage.||

[pulsar citrus]

|| yeah I guess I'll give them a go too sometime. But if new Simon even has half of the gimmicks he already had and then some more of the gimmicks like these guys here (even the exact someone of these might just be trouble)

I remember that I only defeated him with the Immortal Verso build by keeping Verso in the A team and then Maelle one shotting his rest of HP in B team. ||

[pulsar citrus]

||Even one of his attacks were one shotting my members.

Especially the explosive attack which targets all of them.

I was going fine, but by the 2nd broken and lamp and the last quarter of his 3rd life. All my Revive tints I used on Lune were finished so I had to do something else. Otherwise I was in a pretty good flow, although the fight was just a bit too tedious for me||

[errant wedge]

||That works for Divergent Star as well except you need to do more damage with both teams and his attack patterns are more dynamic.||

[errant wedge]

||Well you might want to try more survivable builds then.||

[pulsar citrus]

||How much HP does it have left for when the B team get called? ||

[errant wedge]

Lemme check.

||I think Expelled happens after he takes like 80 million damage.||

||And Phase 2 has only 116 million HP.||

[pulsar citrus]

|| Okay 36 million so I can't even rely on the Gommage for this. Gotcha.||

[rocky raptor]

...game crashed
fun

[errant wedge]

||No as in the second phase has 116 million HP after you do the 80something to get there.||

[errant wedge]

Act 3 DLC ||Endless Tower|| ||And Gommage can definitely oneshot it. Case in point:||

[pulsar citrus]

I guess I have far less lumina points that I should have to do it.

Myax was maybe 15 percent of that

[errant wedge]

Yeah you basically need to fit that list there. That being said the actual target is 1/4th the number you see here so you do have space to leave stuff off (albeit less than you might imagine, because this is multiplicative stacking).

[brisk orbit]

How is the DLC? I know nothing of it

I'm thinking of playing it after my second playthrough when I have a good build

How do you even access it?

[fallow geode]

it's a new zone in Act 3 (location) ||near lumiere||

[brisk orbit]

Act 1 ||"First hit dealt and taken deals 50% more damage"||

||Hmm. I don't think I'll use this||

[brisk orbit]

Act 1 ||"Re... Cle... What were their names?"||

||hmm||

[fallow geode]

hey, could you add "replay" to your tags? especially if you're commenting on foreshadowing

other approaches could be like "act 1 + all"

[brisk orbit]

I have been using them when appropriate

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Reaches Boss|| ||Yo Alicia got hands||

||I feel bad for every Nevron i've ever fought||

[rocky raptor]

Now this, this is just evil
Act 3 ||Maelle Final Relationship Conversation||

[nova temple]

Good conversation to have

[brisk orbit]

I'm having so much fun with the combat

I understand more of each character's abilities this time around

https://youtu.be/guI38UOa1fg?si=h-rr3OFYeEmetxs-

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||Omg is it even possible to beat Glgra when we first meet her?||

[brisk orbit]

I've been practicing the song Alicia and I'm getting pretty good at it!

Such a shame my voice isn't how it was before

[brisk orbit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/IkG4mhC-w-I?si=DJGwKYF5hNNUamOt

[brisk orbit]

How do stains work when Lune uses her Aim?

I can't believe I missed this whole area in my first run!

[nova temple]

What do you mean how do they work?

[brisk orbit]

I shot the enemy a few times and I noticed that I generated a different stain each time

Wondering how that worked

hmm

I looked it up and I think it's a weapon skill?

[nova temple]

Yep, there's a weapon that has a chance to generate a random stain on free aim

[errant wedge]

Christmas, I guess spoilers ||https://fixvx.com/expedition33/status/2004195873832714587||

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (@expedition33)

Wishing you all the happiest of holidays, from our painted family to yours ❤️❤️

- The Expedition 33 Team!!
Artwork made by Nicholas Maxson-Francombe, Art Director.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 25, 2025, 2:21 PM

[opal junco]

peak videogame

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||The whole plot reminded me of the movie Inception a bit||

[rocky raptor]

...
Act 3 ||Dark Arena|| ||Only getting a single shot at Golgra here is insane. I, do not like this.||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Weapons All|| ||Decided to look up a list of weapons has i had a cool idea for my squad and wanted to see if it was supported, and yall, why in the world dont Verso or Monoco get Void element weapons? Maelle gets two gosh dangit.||

[sullen quartz]

||Is Esqiue riding on top of François? 😆||

[nova temple]

Man, I just can't shake the rust off for this DLC

I'll just put the health on normal and steamroll everything

[brisk orbit]

Act 1 ||I wonder if the Play First Picto works on bosses too||

[errant wedge]

It does for most of them.

[brisk orbit]

||I meant First Strike Picto, sorry||

[brisk orbit]

Act 1 End ||NO! GUSTAVE!!||

||WTF||

E33 All ||So here I think Painted Renoir tried to make Maelle go out of the Canvas? But we hear the real Renoir and Aline talk here, and it seems that Renoir made her stay in the Canvas||

Tomorrow comes!

[errant wedge]

Everyone I've recommended this game to has been gobsmacked by just the end of the Prologue. Goddamn does this game have a strong start.

I mean it has a strong middle and strong end yes but I love how I never have to say "oh well you just hafta get past the first 5 hours and then it gets good". It's just good.

[nova temple]

Patch 1.5 ||oh no, everyone is edgy. I cannot run this, by they kinda look good actually 😅 ||

[pulsar citrus]

|| I am just glad there are some actually Good hair variety for Monoco now||

[sullen quartz]

||This general getup looks weird as heck but I'll give it a pass because Lune looks gorgeous 🥵||

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||"I'm really sorry I didn't arrive sooner" says Verso.||

[pulsar citrus]

|| I think it looks the most good on Maelle. Especially that half black half red thing they have going on. Looks straight out of Metal band member. ||

[brisk orbit]

Act 2 ||So many dead Expeditioners.. Why are there so many?||

||I guess they did mention that the numbers lessened as the years went by. And it seems likely that they sent great numbers of them at the beginning when there was still hope and memories of before the Fracture.||

Omg I have Energizing Start I, III, and IV, but don't have II! That's so annoying!

[brisk orbit]

Act 2 ||The bosses are so much easier this time around!||

||Goodbye Gustave! 😭 😭 ||

[pulsar citrus]

The same as me

[brisk orbit]

Yes we seem to have a lot in common when gaming

Act 2 ||The best thing we can do for these white nevrons is to.. help them and kill them afterwards.. right? For the Exp?||

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||I'm kinda glad I started this game later than others. I literally had no idea there was an Act 3, and I was so shocked!||

[errant wedge]

Actual answer tho it's revealed in Act 3 ||Help them and don't kill them unless they ask.||

[errant wedge]

DLC ||Worth it for the amazing run animations.||

[pulsar citrus]

That one is actually just harder to find than the rest. They are at least in natural path if progression.

[nova temple]

They sure are something

[nova temple]

Patch 1.5 ||So what is in this patch? I've beaten Osq, opened the birthday party gate, got the new mime and a couple of chromatics... I need to get the gestral kid to move off the diving platform, but I forgot what it wants. I think new Endless Tower levels? What else?||

[errant wedge]

||Yeet the child.||

[nova temple]

||Child: yeeted||

Those new Endless Tower battles, huh

[errant wedge]

gl hf

[nova temple]

full game ||I don't want this life...||

Maybe... I don't do this...

||I feel pretty good about being able to do Duolistes eventually. Maybe Clea. Chromatic Lampmaster felt so chaotic. And I am not putting myself through another Simon||

[errant wedge]

Welcome to the Chad Corridor, where all the bosses are gigachads

[nova temple]

photo mode wtf, hide that UI when I am pressing the "take screenshot" button!

I'll go retake these

[reef iron]

honestly i think i'm going to do new game+ before i touch the new stuff

if i'm going through the effort of re-teaching myself the game, might as well do it from the beginning

[exotic ember]

|| Tbh for me lampmaster was harder than new Simon phase 1. I just don’t have my team built to be able to deal damage to phase 2 currently ||

[nova temple]

Yeah, I think it's just been too long for me to relearn buildcrafting for these

[exotic ember]

Yeahhh I was feeling that way too initially. I ended up still rebuilding my main team. Have yet to do the backup team

I need more color of lumina

[brisk orbit]

Is the DLC good? What is it about?

[fallow geode]

it's not a full DLC, it's a patch they dropped the night of the Game Awards

it adds a new End Game area (||Verso's Drafts||), and several new pictos, weapons, and skins

and all the QOL I'm sure you've already been enjoying

[nova temple]

I would say it's definitely more on the whimsical side of things

it's not Big Serious Lore

[exotic ember]

It’s very fun imo

[nova temple]

I do love these

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Flying Manor|| ||Beat Clea...annoyingly Lune got nommed by one of her ghost Bourgeons so Lune didnt get the xp :/||

||Also absolutely hilarious for it to give only like...maybe 10k chroma for such a hard fight when every pictos and weapon now costs mininum 80k :/||

[nova temple]

Yeah, the economy gets a little weird late in the game

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||This lighthouse snake can [censored for broadcast].||

[pulsar citrus]

||Yup its timing is just very weird and even the movement is a bit janky as the visuals crowd being able to see it.

These are the worse parts and not the lamp trials mostly because I can just be done with them (but they are hella annoying and if I misremember them by even a little then my whole run is ruined.

There were many times when I failed a trial 1/5th of the way to the fight I just abandon the battle. ||

[rocky raptor]

Redistributed points, upgraded weapons, ate that sucker for lunch

I feel weird about the difficulty of this game cause every boss i see people talk about being super crazy hard i just kinda...like it's hard, but not "took me 10+ attempts" hard

maybe like...4 at most?

[nova temple]

Helps when you clear the map and get ahead of the level curve

[errant wedge]

Well that's if you're playing to win and using all the tools at your disposal, which a lot of people don't.

Lot of folks live the "im gonna parry or im gonna DIE" life, and die a lot.

Which is how I expect Brandon to play when (not if, when) he eventually plays this game.

[rocky raptor]

im sorta playing like that xD
Act 3 ||I have Verso using a sword that prevents him from healing but starts him at S. If I just don't get hit then I'm always using his strongest moves xD||

[errant wedge]

||If your Verso has more than 1 HP he's playing it safe😛.||

[rocky raptor]

ive been tempted...

[exotic ember]

I mean if you’re not playing with all characters always at 1 HP and never dodging, only parrying, are you even playing E33?

-# Yes. The answer is yes. No gatekeeping here

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||I think I have...the Fountain, Chosen Paths, Renoir's Drafts, another place I can't remember the name of, dlc area, Endless Tower, and...3 overworld bosses plus one or two overworld spots left||

||Oh, and Flying Cemetary||

[nova temple]

Would you like some direction on priorities?

[rocky raptor]

I've been hitting zones based on when it no longer says danger and hitting the overworld bosses every so often if they don't beat me silly in the first round

so i'm good, i'll get through it. most of the time consumption comes from just...the getting places

Speaking of priorities in an amusing sense
Act 3 ||Watching Jesse Cox's LP, his chat told him to do Flying Manor before the final boss. He got to Clea, got wiped super crazy hard, just gave up on even trying to do it, was complaining a lot about not having enough health or speed recently.
The man's still running lvl 13 pictos XD
Brilliant troll on the chat's part to send him after Clea when he's bad at parrying.||

[pulsar citrus]

E33 all + DLC || I have to say that while Verso's Drafts seems like an area to be done at the end game. I think it is balanced in the way to do it before some of the Endgame fights and area like.

It is better to visit the place before Renoir's Drafts for sure and some of the 10th Stage of Endless Tower.||

[rocky raptor]

Does anyone know if having a crit rate above 100% does anything? i cant find people that agree nor can i find someone whose done comprehensive testing

[candid kindle]

Never tried messing with crit rate over 100 specifically but from other damage testing I’ve done damage is consistent once you have at least 100% crit rate and I never noticed any changes when changing pictos around.

And I’ve never seen anybody with the really big damage numbers talk about it

so I’m like 99% sure it doesn’t do anything

[rocky raptor]

alright

[errant wedge]

Above 100% is the same as having 100%, it just means you always crit. There's no Warframe-ass multilayer crit system in this game.

[dawn spindle]

that'd be broken

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Got to Stage 10 Trial 2 of the gauntlet in one go before hitting a snag||

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||I would love to be a Painter. I would create the most beautiful worlds!||

[inner valve]

Started playing last night and thankfully I've had almost nothing spoiled for me (I think). I knew the basic premise of the Expeditions going in.

What I was not prepared for:
[Prologue] ||"The Paintress will soon awaken." I didn't realize she was asleep or that we'd see her wake up and change the Monolith countdown. I knew what was coming with Sophie, but the preamble to it made it all the more gutwrenching. This society built around having a deadline on your life is SO interesting. It's such an intriguing play on a "if you knew you had a week to live, what would you do" sorta thought experiment. ||

[Act 1] ||The team being immediately massacred on the beach was such a striking moment. Along with the older guy who has somehow loved through Gommage (and who, to me at least, bears a striking resemblance to Gustave(!??). The absolute devastation and immediate demoralizing what phenomenal. They had such hopes going in but not actually knowing what's on the continent and they get wiped out like nothing. I literally told my wife that I wouldn't even have been disapppinted if the story had ended there lol.

I have just got Maelle in the party. The Curator seems like someone who is stuck partway through Gommage, given it's kinda constantly dissipating into flowers like the others did.

Really enjoying the game so far :3||

[brisk orbit]

Nice! I am excited for you

[brisk orbit]

E33 Act 2 ||I'm going back to act 1 spots to use the R1 ability, paint break was it called? Hopefully it's worth it||

||Oooo. This unlocks a whole new spot in Ancient Sanctuary||

[brisk orbit]

Found Energizing Start II!

||Hmm. I swear I saw one of these paint spikes in Flying Waters ||

[brisk orbit]

hmm

I wish the favorite mechanic wasn't separate for Pictos and Luminas

I just got this status effect called Bound which prevents the character from dodging, and I'm like: good thing I don't dodge!

[brisk orbit]

Act 2 ||Chromatic Gault is really testing my parrying skills!||

[brisk orbit]

Is Elemental Genesis good?

I have 26 skill points left for Lune and honestly Idk whether to use other abilites or not cause I'm happy with my build rn

[rocky raptor]

It's real good if you can use it

[pulsar citrus]

It is really reliable good damage if you have good AP generation and gave her some good crits. Preferably maxed out.

[candid kindle]

Elemental genesis is great for multiple enemies but with high crit rate lightning dance is more damage on single targets

[errant wedge]

Extremely good.

The strongest non-Gradient AoE skill in the game.

(yes, with a proper build it beats Hell)

[nova temple]

I ran EG for like a third of the game, once I could use it reliably

[pulsar citrus]

Another good thing is that it has great AP costs and with Elemental trick. It has some great set up reliability.

[inner valve]

Could I get some tips for attributes spending on the first three characters?
Act 1 ||Gustave maybe vitality and defense, Lune same with some speed and then Maelle luck and speed with some attack?||

[merry lance]

Act 1 ||IIRC, some people swear by agility maxing in the early game to get more turns. IIRC, I went deep into Might, but it doesn't scale well towards the end, so if you do that you'll be respeccing eventually.||

Act 1 ||The other main strat is to just dump points into whatever your weapon scales off of so you get a blend of raw damage and other stats, but your scaling will change from weapon to weapon, so...||

[nova temple]

^ ||When I was starting off, someone said Luck, and I leaned pretty heavily into that, and it worked. I think it doesn't super matter||

[brisk orbit]

Some kind member in this chat suggested that I should focus on Vitality and Agility early game!

[inner valve]

I think I'm kinda okay throwing stuff at the wall as long as it's not unreasonable to respec multiple times later on. I know I have some items for it now, but I am an item hoarder 😅

[rocky raptor]

My recommendation for most of the early through mid, maybe even late is: ||About 20 vit, 15 luck, 47 agility, dump the rest in might. for every character.
those are like, rough places where the benefits from putting points in started to slow down.||

||When you hit the lategame super hard stuff, then you gotta actually like, care more about scaling and stuff||

||Though if you find yourself getting hit a lot, you might want more vit||

[rocky raptor]

Oh im near end game and I have like...almost 50 of them still hoarded after respeccing everyone xD

[inner valve]

This is great to hear! Thank you :)

Also nice knowing about those soft caps. Gives me something to aim for!

[nova temple]

diminishing returns would be more accurate

[rocky raptor]

luck probably has the steepest drop off of all of them it's wild

[brisk orbit]

goodness am I a fake gamer not knowing what respec means?

(I searched it)

[rocky raptor]

Changing where you've spent your poi-

nvm

[pulsar citrus]

True but it does reap them off by giving you benefits for speed or defense with each extra attribute point.

[errant wedge]

My final builds at level 99 ended with everyone having 99 in 2 stats, and 33 in the other 3 stats.

The 2 stats were whichever ones their selected weapon scaled with, and the weapons were selected for their abilities.

[brisk orbit]

Act 2 ||He Who Guards Truth With Lies||

E33 All ||I wonder why Renoir created the Axons||

[brisk orbit]

hmm

E33 All ||I did hear that each Axon represents one from the family||

[nova temple]

All ||There is a moment during Reacher when Maelle talks about it briefly, about how Renoir paints to... I forget what she says, but it's a bit like he paints to tell stories, to convey meaning, to reveal, to inspire. Each axon represents both how he sees his family, and also what he wants for them. Alicia is afraid of heights, so Reacher is massively tall, but Renoir also sees his younger daughter as someone who excels, who reaches for the sky||

[rocky raptor]

||As Verso sums it up nicely, "He just wants you to fly."||

[brisk orbit]

Act 2 ||How did E70 even get inside the Monolith?||

[nova temple]

[rocky raptor]

All ||im trying to remember if there's anything special about that year and the best i have is it's when Maelle's parents died||

[nova temple]

I've shared a few video essays and lore videos, if you want to go trawling through the channel's history

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||I had literally no idea what Renoir was saying here. Now I finally understand||

||Paintress time!||

[brisk orbit]

got em

first try

[brisk orbit]

E33 All ||I want to do all of the Act 3 stuff before the ending, but I am very curious to know the other ending||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Stage 11 Trial 1 can kiss my whole entire ass. They've applied this stupid pink haze over all 3 enemies that's the same color as the background so I can't bloody see them||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Every so often I poke at the Duolliste fight and I'm just...god this requires perfect parrying||

[nova temple]

||That one came with the 1.5 patch, along with all the other secondary canvases, and they are all the pinnacle challenges of the game. It's where parry gods go to live - or die 😛 ||

[candid kindle]

Act 3 || Unlike most other 1.5 bosses Duolliste can actually be beat with 0 dodging and 0 parrying! (there’s a joke here about the French and cheese but I’m not funny enough to come up with it) ||

[rocky raptor]

||Does it involve Auto-Death explosion? xD||

[candid kindle]

|| Auto-death was involved in my strat! ||

[errant wedge]

DLC superbosses ||Duolliste was the first of the new bosses that I cleared. I did it before getting any of the new gear from the actual DLC zone, or updating my builds for the patch. Basically I got to phase 2, then while learning the moveset everyone died and I ran out of Revive tints... but I really, really learned the rhythms to the point where I was just sitting there in an untouchable parrying trance with only Sciel alive (that too on a support build with none of the soloing-related luminas) and decided eff it, we'll just keep going, with a damage strategy of just building up Sun Charges until Gradient 3 was available then entering Twilight and firing off End Slice.||

Overall the fight took over an hour and 1063 parries but the boss died on that attempt. Not how I normally play, lol.

The other superbosses of course I did after going to the actual DLC zone and coming back with a bunch of new gear and updated builds so I never had to do anything like that again.

[inner valve]

So... Act 1 ||So far for me there have been two seemingly friendly Nervons that have little quests attached to them. I went ahead and did the quests... then murdered them. Should I not be murdering them? 😅||

[errant wedge]

If you want that answered ||It is not the optimal outcome for their little questline but it's not that consequential.||

[inner valve]

Ohhh ||Oops! Is the outcome mainly "feel good" or is it mechanical or result in a unique reward? Depending, I coukd see myself quickly starting over since I'm only a few hours in at this point 😅||

[errant wedge]

It is primarily a mechanical reward.

It is ||100 color of lumina that you receive in Act 3||.

[inner valve]

Hmm. ||So not terribly unique? Like a thing I can get another way?||

[errant wedge]

It is farmable but farming just takes a while. If you're already a ways into the game then the time cost of restarting makes it already not worth it.

It's also only really relevant if you want to go fight strong optional bosses in Act 3.

[nova temple]

||You can still get it. There are more of these white nevrons, and what mattes at the end is whether you kill or spare more than half. I don't remember how many there are, but you can get away with a couple of murders||

[inner valve]

I will want to do that, but if it's farmable another way then that would be my preference to restarting. Thank you for the info :)

[inner valve]

Even better - thank you!!

[rocky raptor]

...
Act 3 ||Simon|| ||Is it possible to avoid his move where he sends you to 1hp??||

[rocky raptor]

||Is it more than half? Wild, I kept seeing it was more than one.||

[errant wedge]

Nope.

[rocky raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/wipe-off-sweat-bradley-hall-clear-the-perspiration-wash-away-sweat-gif-5666657092934823161

[nova temple]

I could be wrong

[dawn spindle]

||Me who starts the fight at 1hp anyway: ||

[rancid dagger]

I am arrived

is this a controller or mk game? 🤔

nvm

[nova temple]

I MKB'd it!

I don't touch controllers!

-# and I pay the price

Though in this case I don't think it matters much

[rancid dagger]

Ill roll with controller for nostalgia sake

Helps that the last 3 games I played were controller games xD

also...I see...so this is the music I heard for 30% of TGA

it is indeed a strong intro (Im still in the menu!)

[nova temple]

It's a very hangoutable menu

[rancid dagger]

well... time to hit that new game button. Always exciting!

[dawn spindle]

Welcome

Also I just went in into my fight and did a few tries and I've noticed my save says 85h

but steam says 138h

[nova temple]

Yeah, it do be like that

the 1.5 patch notes said they fixed it, but not retroactively

Mine is also off by like 20 hours

[dawn spindle]

60h is off by a lot

[nova temple]

True, I don't know what causes it

I feel like 138 is a lot

[merry lance]

IIRC it was almost definitely caused by wipes

because a wipe just loads your last autosave, so the playtime counter wouldn't tick up

[rocky raptor]

huh

[merry lance]

(The introduction of the "Retry fight?" prompt probably changed things a little, but there'd probably still be a desync if you quit between attempts)

[rancid dagger]

Prologue || I was gonna remark on how very jrpg of them to put that trash can right at the beginning and when you interact with it, game says it's just a trash can. Then near the harbor I ran into another interactable trash can, and this one is glowing suspiciously...lo and behold, there's a dude in there and he gives me an item! Now I wanna go back to the start to see if there's anything in that other one (I won't) ||

[fallow geode]

very jrpg
So about that

[brisk orbit]

WHAT

[rancid dagger]

Oh yeah, I had heard plenty it had jrpg in its dna, but that was oddly specific, and very funny!

also Prologue || Just got humbled by a mime 😌 ||

[rancid dagger]

Yep! || There's a trash can a bit before the lady playing guitar, if you interact with it a bunch (each interaction the dialogue gets suspiciously more insistent that it's just a trash can) a dude will start talking to you ||

[rocky raptor]

||It's not a missable item at least||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Simon|| ||Making some more attempts and this is making me feel like I just don't understand how to play the game xD Like, it's not just getting the parries (which let me tell ya, those light speed attacks are faster than i can press the button), I feel like i'm not building character damage right||

[nova temple]

||Simon is, by far, the hardest boss in the game until you get to those 1.5 uberhosses||

[rocky raptor]

||Is it possible to go beat the main story then come back here without doing NG+?||

[rancid dagger]

Ok, I know I said I'd play till 4 AM, but my sense of self preservation is speaking louder, I'll cut it off at the beginning of Act 1 😬 . I want to keep playing, I'm certainly intrigued, but I'm not 15 anymore. I can't just sleep for 8+h from whichever time I go to bed, I know I'll be wake by at least 8 AM and feeling like crap if I sleep only 4h xD

also, weirdly enough, what seems like it's going to be a limiting factor to how much I no-life this on my days off will be my freaking headset? Wearing it for long stretches of time just starts feeling uncomfortable :/

[nova temple]

Yep, you get a save just before the end

[rocky raptor]

||Then bye bye simon xD
I, cannot, parry that speed of light attack and i don't feel like bashing my skull open trying to learn it when there's more game I could be playing||

[nova temple]

That's 100% fine as far as I am concerned, I did the same

||And even then I couldn't be bothered to fully learn the fight, and just looked up a one-shot build||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 dlc ||Running around Verso's Drafts is putting such a huge smile on my face. I really needed this.||

alrrighty. think imma wrap up the story now

[pulsar citrus]

I was also MKB'ding (as I couldn't get a Nintendo Controller I did have to work to on my Laptop) my way through the Act 1 of the game but had to stop because I was starting to feel the response in my 'W' button of Keyboard starts to lack response as much.

Thus I had to figure out a way to quickly get it to work or else I might be ruining one of my Keys. (This game makes you walk forward a lot. Especially since you are changing the camera with mouse/right analog. )

[pulsar citrus]

Yup Act 3 || Main Story fights in Lumiere are balanced in the way to be fought directly after end of Act 2. You are supposed to be at least lvl 55 to 60 there.

Meanwhile Renoir's Drafts makes you level up to 88 or near that. ||

[pulsar citrus]

|| yeah weirdly despite Verso's Drafts being DLC content it is balanced in a way to be fought at level 68 to 77. Definitely earlier than Renoir's Drafts a content that was always in the game.||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Lumiere|| ||Final Fight|| ||Why is it making me choose ;_;||
||Does the backup save the game makes mean i can come back here and see the other choice if i want?||

[nova temple]

yes

[rocky raptor]

E33 All ||That ending choice is, it's so weird i guess.
The entire emotional crux of it is solely about the grief of the Dessendre and Maelle's life...
They never once bring up during that whole sequence whether every other thing in the Canvas deserves to live.||

[nova temple]

||Yeah, that's a common critique||

[rocky raptor]

||Like, it's definitely very important, and feels intentional, but it's...weird how sidelined everyone else is when our inciting incident is the grief of the people that live here.
Beautiful game still, just...
Like Id like just a bit more from the others. If i understand the metaphysics of the world right then i think there's an interesting conversation to be had about like, how itd be a sacrifice from Maelle/Verso's soul to keep painting new life||

[rocky raptor]

||Yeah...I feel the balance and scaling is...borked for it to work like that. I just one-shotted my way through everything including the final fights||

[nova temple]

||In a way, I think the story is about the Dessandre family, and how they deal with grief; the people of the Canvas are... an important background detail that informs Maelle's and Verso's worldviews, but the game is still about Maelle's and Verso's worldviews, it's not about all the rest||

[rocky raptor]

||It feels weird then for the story to focus so heavily on the people of the Canvas as being the emotional hook that gets you invested if...ultimately the story doesn't care about them||

[nova temple]

|| Common critique; I try not to think about that too hard||

[rocky raptor]

xD

||Like the game sits at a comfortable 9/10 for me. It's just an odd choice, one that i've been feeling coming since i noticed the rest of the cast spending a heck of a lot of the cutscenes just...standing there, staring xD||

||I do feel like the story may have hit me more if I'd gone to Lumiere immediately...but there's like, so many other bits of story you just don't get if you do that that I feel is important for the emotional weight also||

[nova temple]

||Perhaps. I found that for myself a lot of those other things were separate conflicts. I am endlessly fascinated and charmed by Clea, but her stuff doesn't intersect with that final choice in any way beyond showing you someone who absolutely would've torched this canvas ages ago (and kind of has been trying to, honestly)||

[rocky raptor]

||It was mainly the painted Clea and Alicia stuff, like...I felt that was important for Verso and Maelle||

||In retrospect, working to get everyone's relationship score maxed out is hilarious considering how little those relationships or characters mattered to the decision making at the end||

||I guess where I sit, is I find it very intentional that every member of the Dessandre, including the painted ones, are almost horrifically selfish. I guess I mainly just wish the rest of the cast got one last chance to argue for the sake of themselves, even if the point is Maelle, Verso, and Renoir ultimately don't truly care about them for their own sake.||

...
Act 3 ||Lumiere|| ||I just learned you get a perfect catalyst from the trash can man if you talked to him in the prologue, now that's just mean xD||

[nova temple]

||brother got recycled||

[rocky raptor]

...wait, huh
Act 3 ||Lumiere|| ||Renoir fight|| ||Im watching Jesse play and his chat mentioned he somehow missed a cutscene during that fight, which, what?? Cause like, if he missed it then I also definitely missed it xD||

...omg
Act 3 ||Final Fight|| ||Verso and Maelle have a conversation as the fight goes on? Geeze...being able to miss all this on accident cause you leveled up too much i think is a legitimate problem||

[brisk orbit]

||Did you see Aline join in?||

[rocky raptor]

||I saw that one and so did Jesse. he's gonna do that fight again to see what he missed and get the other ending so ill see||

[rocky raptor]

🤣
E33 All
||https://twitter.com/versophd/status/2006234678097756452?t=EPmhFUHqblOtwGu-WJ04XA&s=19 ||

painted kat , goty edition . (@versophd)

sciel: do you ever want to talk about your emotions, lune?
lune: no.
verso: i do.
sciel: i know, verso.
verso: i’m sad.
sciel: i know, verso.

X · Dec 31, 2025, 5:23 AM

[pulsar citrus]

E33 all || What is weird is that we have 4 dialogues with Sciel and Lune that is just about Verso not talking. ||

[rancid dagger]

just hang out in the menu for a bit as I start todays sessions and you know what else is funny? I was watching TGA at like 2x speed, so the music sounded like this crazy ballad, not the sombre-ish music it's supposed to be xD

[dawn spindle]

I am stuck in this same thing, everything else I can parry, but unlike you I am stubborn as hell, so I keep trying.

I will get it, I know I will

probably doing more than 2 attempts per week would help but y'know

details

[nova temple]

Probably

[dawn spindle]

It's maintenance workout

[brisk orbit]

watch me do it first try

bet

[nova temple]

uh-huh

[dawn spindle]

sure thing

[dawn spindle]

Act 3, lmao

Act 3 ||Post Renoir's Draft || ||Abyss|| ||I almost got the full speed light attack!||

[dawn spindle]

I guess that was a fluke 😭

nvm i almost managed again

I feel I'm close to a break through

[rocky raptor]

||I am desperate to figure out how to get numbers like those
If it requires grinding out more lumina i'm probably gonna take an extended break. i really wish the game had a mechanic like Metaphor or others where if an enemy is a lot weaker than you you can just poof it without starting a battle||

[dawn spindle]

||That was Maelle's 3* gradient attack, and the reason it's so high is just because the enemy has so much health, and I assume it's % based||

||I have done 5 mill counter just now though||

none of that was enough

[nova temple]

||Nope, it's flat damage. You must've had some stacked multipliers||

[dawn spindle]

oooh

[rocky raptor]

||What? Everything i've read about it says it's percentage?||

[dawn spindle]

||I sure did have a bunch of them, but i thought it was % since it's so high||

[nova temple]

Oh, well, I am full of it then

[dawn spindle]

Ah, I should specify ||That was a "kills weak enemies", and not the "otherwise it does extreme damage". I assume if the %hp left isn't low enough then it does a flat amount of damage, however in my case that was a kill number||

[candid kindle]

|| kills weak enemies means it one shots non bosses, it does the same the amount of damage to bosses regardless of how much health they have, current or max, it’s 50x your basic damage I’m pretty sure ||

[dawn spindle]

I see

[dawn spindle]

||okay, I've noticed I keep dying now to the same specific attack about 6 or 7 parries in, that's good, at least, that I am consistently parrying 2/3 of it||

[errant wedge]

Correct, it's a 50x base mult (base is your Attack Power from your weapon and stats), then x3 from Virtuose, and the rest is Luminas.

That's basically how every skill in the game works.

Attack power * skill mult * character's core mechanic effects * luminas * luminas * luminas... everything doing multiplicative stacking.

[rocky raptor]

Luminas are apparently split into two types based on wording

Ones that are a percentage of base, and ones that are a percentage of a total

[candid kindle]

Yeah and there’s also weapon effects. The || 4.2 billion || number is with the dlc weapon which || gives Maelle another 3.5x multiplier which was not needed lmao ||

[errant wedge]

Yeah the weapon mechanics are all core character effects since they're all tied to the same character. ||That number will technically have Verso' weapon effects too from the one that gives the Rank bonus to teammates instead of himself.||

[rocky raptor]

||Which one?||

[errant wedge]

||Esquium||

[rocky raptor]

||How's that one give a 3.5x modifier? It gives a max of 200% doesnt it?||

[candid kindle]

|| I didn’t use that Verso weapon (the number is from my own gameplay) since I’m somewhat sure it’s currently bugged and doesn’t give the buff ||

[errant wedge]

||It gives +50% for each AP consumes, so +250%, so 3.5x||

[rocky raptor]

||...i swear i can math||

[rancid dagger]

Early Act 1 || Why are mimes so damn powerful? (I know why, there's a good skit about it). The game seems to make me want to believe that the final boss (whether that's the Paintress or not, if I had to guess based on my jrpg lore it should not be, there should be a 'hidden' eldritch final boss, but I digress) is just going to be a mime. I think I answered my own question, the Paintress is obviously being controlled / coerced by a mime god. ||

[nova temple]

Obviously

[brisk orbit]

we so back

[dawn spindle]

How'd you figure that one out?

[rancid dagger]

massive brain

[rancid dagger]

its 2 am, ... lets start 2026 in style

[pulsar citrus]

DLC weapon || wouldn't it be 2.5? As there are only 5 APs consumed. ||

[pulsar citrus]

Oh

[rocky raptor]

||I believe it's additive? (Base * 2.5)+Base = Base * 3.5||

[rocky raptor]

Oh heck, I was just reminded Jacob Geller did a video on E33 I can watch now

[brisk orbit]

🖐️ 😐 🖐️
🔨 🔨 🔨
🧱🧱🧱

https://youtu.be/WiOULeEyZdA?si=La-fZXDrMauh4VrY

[rancid dagger]

Time to Clair, and to Obscure

[rancid dagger]

Act 1 post Flying Waters || Aw man, I didn't realize you could shoot in exploration mode, so I moved past the first locked treasure thinking I'd eventually loop around to get to the lock on the high ground ... I only realized you can shoot those when I found the 2nd locked thing... and that was at the entrance of Flying Waters... anyone care to tell me what I'm missing and if it's worth the trouble of tracking all the way back through FW and... back out again? ||

[errant wedge]

Nothing too important.

Probs just some weapon upgrade material.

[rancid dagger]

uh, according to google its a Chroma Elixir Shard

seems pretty good

ah, running back wasn't that bad, and I ran back from a farther flag than I could've

[nova temple]

Right, I forgot how tight this prologue was https://youtu.be/J3AUxMzgFiE

[quaint gale]

(Her playthrough was very good, she picked up a lot of stuff before it gets explained properly.)

[inner valve]

End of Act 1 / Beginning of Act 2 ||Wow lots went down! We have names of a particular antagonist, Renoir. I have some apprehension towards a particular advancement.

But before that, a... cultural question? Are the Gestrals and Esquie supposed to be funny? Or just whimsical? Because I find both to be quite grating and unfunny. Gestrals are like minions and Esquie is weird for weirdness sake, it seems to me. Unsure if there's just a cultueral difference in humor and it's not "for me" or if I'm missing something lol.

Okay. So at the end of Act 1, Gustave is killed by Renoir and Maelle is saved by Verso (who Esquie had mentioned was his old friend). I had dread going through this whole section because of Maelle nightmares that she was going to be killed, but I didn't fathom that Gustave would be! Which is an amazing, gutsy move to kill off your main character!
...
If it weren't immediately dampened by replacing him with what is essentially a mirror... both visually and mechanically (insofar as I see the Pictos, Lumina, and equipment transfers to him, though I can see he does have some different abilities). I thought it'd be so cool to switch the "main" focus to one of the girls, Maelle probably. But we have to have a male de facto leader it seems? It feels kind of cowardly. And maybe I'm misreading this because I haven't actually played in Act 2 yet and it plays out in a way that is more satisfying than that.

AND why are the three most prominent male characters all basically identical? Lol. On the beach I literally thought Renoir was an older version of Gustave given how similar they look. And then they had the audacity to introduce a THIRD character who looks almost the exact same! It's so funny!

All that said. I like Maelle, I LOVE Luna. I haven't had enough time with Sciel yet, but she seems sweet. The Curator is spooky and interesting in how he and some other background characters we've met seem to be "stuck" in the middle of thr Gommage or something.
||

[rocky raptor]

||I definitely find gestrals and Esquie to be both funny and whimsical||

[inner valve]

||I also love learning about the previous Expeditions! The world and set up of the whole conflict is SO cool.

The fights are also fantastic and I love how you're given just the right number of fights to learn and areas enemies, their mechanics, prep for the boss, and then execute. Not too many, not too few. It feels super well balanced in that way. LOVE finding throughlines in characters abilities. Sciel in particular I'm vibing with right now. But that's me every time a new character is inteoduced :)||

[rocky raptor]

||Also ill be honest, i do not understand anyone ive seen that thinks Gustave, Renoir, and Verso look identical xD||

[pulsar citrus]

|| I personally find them funny. Though tbf, I would say some of the other great moments with Esquie are still yet to come.

Though the moments we had with him in his Cave and Francois were very funny.

I definitely agree that being shoved with Verso who got everything Gustave had to be a slap at the beginning of the Act 2.

That is all I'll say for now. ||

[pulsar citrus]

Oh I've met enough people that thinks so. Myself included

[rocky raptor]

yall make no sense to me xD

[quaint gale]

||The detail on the characters models is pretty good thanks to UE5, the variety is not. That's one of the aspects of the limited team size and budget.||

[rocky raptor]

||All three mentioned characters have very different face shapes, nose shapes, hair styles, etc||

[inner valve]

||I think they have pretty similar face shapes (at least Gustave and Renoir, I'll admit Verso has a thinner face and looks a bit different). But they're all three white men with dark hair and facial hair with similar builds and similar enough faces. At least to me! ||

[quaint gale]

||Different people notice/rely on different aspects more or less, and I think the actual body shapes in particular are limited. But I'm not really the best person to discuss it in detail as it's all not something I'm usually very observant about to begin with.||

[rocky raptor]

||Gustave has a triangle face, Verso a diamond face, and Renoir a square face
like im genuinely having a hard time seeing how they could be seen as identical||

[pulsar citrus]

|| I would have said Gustave had square-ish face too. While Verso I could believe to be just a thinner Gustave.

Before the exposition about Expedition 0 by Verso at the end of Act 1.

I was sure that Renoir was^ just Gustave from an alt timeline and so was Alicia the Maelle.

While Verso was from a 3rd timeline where there is no Maelle.

And Renoir's talk about killing Gustave being a mercy being related to something worse happening in future if he is kept alive and Maelle is the one to do something bad in the future which is why Alicia is the one to point to her and Renoir says that it is her fault and she doesn't even know it yet.

||

[rocky raptor]

maybe im just delusional idk i feel like it all the time

[brisk orbit]

Act 2 ||I thought Renoir was a older Gustave when I first saw him in the beach where he massacred E33. For a split second I thought that was why everyone was so confused.||

[nova temple]

I've seen quite a few people jump to that conclusion in the moment, so there must be something to it; I don't see it though

[quaint gale]

Or perhaps it's that you're actually more observant, and struggle less with differentiating faces/people than many of us do 🤷

[pulsar citrus]

Yeah I struggle with faces a lot

[errant wedge]

E33 ALL ||https://fixvx.com/expedition33/status/2007020638360494545||

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (@expedition33)

33 Décembre.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 2, 2026, 9:26 AM

[coral trout]

Happy Décembre 33rd to you all.

[nova temple]

https://www.tumblr.com/yyymmmrrr/804200445002334208?source=share

YMR

-# #artists on tumblr #digital art #fanart #clair obscur: expedition 33 #expedition 33 #expedition 33 fanart

Tumblr · Dec 28, 2025, 6:08 PM

[rancid dagger]

I was gonna comment on this yesterday and forgot... Act 1 Flying Waters || I killed the optional troubador boss and uh... I still have no idea how their attacks work . I just retried the fight a bunch of times. Could almost never get the dodges/parries right but eventually lucked into a kill 🙈 ||

[brisk orbit]

🤔

Same goes for the women, I guess

Act 3 ||I've seen some talks about the similarities between Sciel and Clea too||

[brisk orbit]

hmm

A lot harder than expected. I haven't learned a new piece in years

[rocky raptor]

Oh this is good stuff

E33 All
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou49qDJGYTo ||

[brisk orbit]

Merde!

[nova temple]

Hmm, yeah, good vid

[errant wedge]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/rpg/clair-obscur-expedition-33-devs-next-game-will-simply-focus-on-what-we-think-is-cool-ive-seen-too-many-tv-shows-and-books-be-swayed-trying-to-please-a-lot-of-people/

On to the next one.

[exotic ember]

So hype

Whatever they do next is an instabuy on multiple platforms for me

They’ve earned my trust completely

[coral trout]

New update stuff ||I finally decided to play all of new stuff. I did verso's drafts. Is the Simon in the tower new?||

[errant wedge]

Yeah

[coral trout]

Oh no

[rancid dagger]

im so bad at this game

[dawn spindle]

That's what you said for Silksong at first too

[rancid dagger]

Indeed it is

And I got gud

I'm only about 8h in so I got time to git gud

[brisk orbit]

Chroma is flowing!

[rancid dagger]

Act 1 || Oh, the Lorien and Alice gestrals are so cute ||

[brisk orbit]

Yes!

One of them is named after the music composer

[rancid dagger]

yes, that is Lorien 😅

it's what I meant

and Alice does the vocals for a bunch of songs

[rocky raptor]

E33 All ||Thought id go look up fun conversation about the story online...my god the Verso v Maelle discourse is mindnumbingly stupid.
Think imma stick to here and video essays xD||

[errant wedge]

E33 All ||It's still really funny to me that they possibly had no analytics on the ending choice and Jen Sved-Yen decided to just poll her Instagram followers instead. ||

[errant wedge]

Act 1 ||The Alice gestral is new too, she was just added in the Thank You Update.||

[rancid dagger]

oh 😮

[errant wedge]

||Lorieniso is also Lorien Testard's Spotify header.||

[inner valve]

Act 2 ||Just made it to Monocos Station and am getting my ass handed to me. I just messed with my Pictos to unlock more passives, but something I've done has made myself a LOT less survivable. All my characters die to a single of his hits 😅||

[fallow geode]

||You probably lost some bonus stat points||

[rancid dagger]

General mechanics || What's the logic for weapons upgrading in combat? 🤔 . Doesn't seem to matter which weapon you have equiped, is it random, or do they all just get xp or something? Considering that there doesn't seem to be any reason to not just upgrade your preferred weapon at the Curator. Saving up materials I guess is pointless? ||

[fallow geode]

||It's dropping duplicate loot at a higher level than you own||

[patent forge]

||certain enemies have a loot table or static encounters drop specific weapons, when you get a dupe, it levels to the level of the new drop||

[fallow geode]

||Equipment loot drops are fixed FYI, no RNG involved||

[patent forge]

||this is also true for buying the weapon a second time from a vendor||

[patent forge]

Ah, fair

[rancid dagger]

ah

ok, then || dumping all my materials before I potentially find a weapon I like more is not necessarily the play, though the power gains are massive, I'll do it anyway xD ||

[patent forge]

||You wouldn't happen to have equipped perilous parry have you?, also your equipped pictos make up over half your hp generally||

[rancid dagger]

Ill keep 3 for a rainy day

[fallow geode]

||IIRC weapon upgrade materials can be farmed, at least up to a certain grade||

[patent forge]

||No joke I didn't upgrade my weapons with materials until post game||

[fallow geode]

||basically, if you've played a Dark Souls, weapon upgrading works much the same way, (with the addition of the dupes as mentioned)||

[patent forge]

||or until I had a weapon effect I wanted||

[fallow geode]

||the economy of weapon upgrading, that is||

[rancid dagger]

I haven't, but I won't stress too much about it

[errant wedge]

Every tier of upgrade material except the very highest one is farmable iirc, it is very much a Dark Souls type situation.

[exotic ember]

HYPE

[rancid dagger]

I'm either on point with the parries and do a fight hitless, or I'm complete garbage and miss every parry. There is no in between

[errant wedge]

That just means you got gud at reading certain kind of movesets and not on others.

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 dlc ||Verso's Drafts|| ||Osquio's got hands. im too tired to try and understand how to play to beat him right now xD||

[nova temple]

||He did feel a bit difficult to read. Fortunately my entire party is in their high 90s, so I just tanked most of it 😅 ||

[rocky raptor]

||My party is also in their high 90s and die in two hits ;_;||

Unrelated
E33 All 😭
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewt7lycOavU ||

[errant wedge]

Interesting article about the structure of Act 3 ||https://www.gamesradar.com/games/rpg/clair-obscur-expedition-33-lead-underestimated-how-many-players-would-do-all-the-side-content-regrets-disappointing-people-that-wanted-a-challenging-end-boss/||

||"We weren't sure if our game was going to be that good," Guillermin says. "And if it's not, people may just want to see the story, and go directly to the end of the story. So it was a surprise for us [that] people were doing every single thing there is to do in the game before going to the final dungeon. We're happy about that, but we didn't see it coming."||

They did not expect Usha behavior lol.

[nova temple]

I mean, I feel like just finishing the game is wild

[errant wedge]

My opinion is that they should've made the Act 3 ||character quests part of the main sequence||. There's some important context in there ||and the Reacher in particular is a big fully fleshed-out level||.

[rocky raptor]

||I was genuinely surprised when all the Expedition collecting was done in a montage||

[dawn spindle]

which is funny because most completionism people do it this way, vs the "only do the main story", not everyone obviously but it isn't uncommon behaviour.

[rancid dagger]

Somewhere in act 1 || Why do they keep referring to this guy as 'white-haired man' if his hair is black??? ||

[errant wedge]

Act 1 ||It's kinda greyed, probably more so than anyone they've seen in a long time.||

[brisk orbit]

he so fine

[rancid dagger]

That's not what I see in game

is there a problem with my lighting settings?

[nova temple]

No, you are right, the visual doesn't quite match

[rancid dagger]

Act 2 || Whats this bs, I get discount Gustave now?? ||

[nova temple]

Heh

[rancid dagger]

Act 2 || Also in hindsight its pretty funny. When I sent that message asking about the white haired man I said "somewhere in act 1" while I was literally in the 1v1 fight against him, i.e. the exact end of act 1 xD ||

further rethorical observations || why do all these men have the exact same hair? I have seen they are capable of giving men other haircuts, so they are either trying really hard to red herring me or these dudes are all related?
-# they all also have the same weapon which idk if these weapon summonings are genetic or what XD ||

[nova temple]

||Everyone summons their weapons, it's just a part of the magic.||

[rancid dagger]

|| I mean the weapon type being summoned ||

|| Tbh, unclear what black haired man is summoning exactly, but it looked quite sword-like ||

[rocky raptor]

wild, cause that is what i see in-game

[rancid dagger]

|| To clarify what I meant by "weapon summonings being genetic", I meant what kind of weapon you get when you summon a weapon being determined by your bloodline. Which makes no sense, sure, but who knows, this game is very whimsical! ||

[brisk orbit]

hmm

Act 3 ||Was Renoir inspired by the artist, Pierre-Auguste Renoir? His wife's name is literally Aline Charigot.||

[nova temple]

I think since Soia is early in Act 2, maybe tag this differently

So he knows you are ahead

[nova temple]

But maybe! I've seen people speculate on that

[brisk orbit]

😭 😭

[brisk orbit]

It's been forever since I saw Kon here

E33 End ||Verso's ending|| ||I didn't think I was going to play games for a while, so I searched up the other ending instead of finishing all of act 3 like I was planning to do.||

E33 end, Rhythm of War?||Very very sad. It does make me wonder how differently I would react to deaths in stories after actually experiencing the pain of loss Irl which I haven't so far. I had the same thoughts after reading Rhythm of War because I didn't react as strongly as other people did.||

[patent forge]

E33 ending spoilers ||god I'm just thinking about how painful Verso's ending is, particularly Lune sitting in the portal accepting oblivion. After thinking it over I got struck by her speech to help Gustav all the way at the beginning.

"As long as even one of us stands, our fight is not over"

And so, as the very last living person in all of 33, and Lumiere, she sits down||

[dawn spindle]

Act 2 early ||Renoir looks quite dark haired while Verso looks very grey-white haired to me which also did make me go, wtf?||

[patent forge]

||idk if it's my own computer, but everyone's hair color is kinda weirdly shifting in cutscenes||

[dawn spindle]

no I think the models is probably one of the places where it is most obvious it is in fact an AA game leaning into indie, that and the UI

idk why we're spoiling this lmao

I spoiled mine just because character names

[patent forge]

I spoiled b/c you spoiled

[dawn spindle]

yeah haha

[brisk orbit]

E33 Act 3 ||Hmm. I was wondering why I didn't see the Verso magic cutscene during my 2nd playthrough. Turns out
you have to go to camp immediately after recruiting Monoco at Monoco's Station before you head into Old Lumiere.||

||Verso and Torso is the cutscene||

[rancid dagger]

Same! || When budget Gustave comes in to save the day I was like "now there is a dude with (a strip of) white hair! "||
And yeah, same as Aviox there is some weird hair movement/lighting going on in the in-game cut scenes (but not the pre-rendered).

That said || black-haired man is still black haired in the pre renders, so ||

[sullen quartz]

Same tags ||You just summed up how I felt about Verso from the start, hehe. I was like "Excuse me, my favorite character just died, how dare you just replace him like that."||

[dawn spindle]

||I actually think the fact that he was swiftly replaced made the death much more emotional for me, because like, that's life, not replaced in the hearts of people who loved him but otherwise yes, just replaced, irrelevant||

[sullen quartz]

E33 all (Act 3 stuff not safe for Soia and Usha) ||There's also the fact that this is exactly what Verso intended. The whole point was to force himself into the party as a Gustave replacement after letting him die. So he's a "replacement goldfish" if you will from both a Watsonian and Doylist perspective.||

[dawn spindle]

not safe for me either

[sullen quartz]

Oh, sorry I didn't know how far you were.

You didn't click, did you? I'm sorry.

[dawn spindle]

nope

[sullen quartz]

Phew

[dawn spindle]

i havent finished Act 3

you did put "all"

so you're good

[sullen quartz]

I suppose it's not "all" because it wasn't about the ending, but better safe than sorry, just in case.

(I should play this game one of these days)

You know what, if the Steam Machine ends up being reasonably priced, I'll get one and the first order of business will be to get E33 on it.

[rancid dagger]

Early act 2 || You know what the worst part about discount Gustave is to me? On the first night at camp you get teased with Rapture (Rupture?) lore if you talk to Lune, but we never get it! Wth, if you're going to give me an E0 dude, give me the lore dumps that come with it! ||

[nova temple]

Fracture

[rancid dagger]

damn I gave it 2 options and got it wrong anyway 😩

at least it ends in 'ture' 😂

[sullen quartz]

Reading that made my mind go to "trouble rature". I got that "Lumière" brainrot in me. 😛

[pulsar citrus]

Act 3 + DLC || Does Draining Cleanse not remove Barbappa of Feint? I mean I guess it makes sense for balance purpose after all but I read somewhere that it does do that. But it doesn't for me ||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 Final Battle ||https://twitter.com/versophd/status/2009454282123432403?t=jM_oDNEkxYi5C8c93ypUsw&s=19 ||

painted kat , goty edition . (@versophd)

this game hurts my feelings a lot by the way

X · Jan 9, 2026, 2:36 AM

[nova temple]

^ ||someone once pointed out that he is vulnerable to burning damage too, and that's even funnier||

[sullen quartz]

||...Funnier?||

||I suppose in a black comedy way, but I think it's kinda sad.||

[rancid dagger]

this music really is good, I almost always sit in the menu for a bit when Im starting a session

[brisk orbit]

yeah I love Alicia too

[exotic ember]

Game is mad tight

[rancid dagger]

Act 2 + Silksong || Wow, they managed to provide a mini game worse than flea dodge ||

[dawn spindle]

Which which?

[rancid dagger]

|| The gestral raft game ||

[dawn spindle]

Yes, everyone's favourite

Kon suggested to me that I put the FPS at 30 for that specific thing and it worked (for me)

But this was pretty soon after the game release

[rancid dagger]

What's the reward for the 3rd one? If it's not something giga good I just won't do it, it's miserably unfun

[reef iron]

e33 + silksong ||generally does not land minigames at all, i'd take every flea game over the gestral games||

[reef iron]

rewards in these tend to be ||bathing suits||

[rancid dagger]

big lmao

[errant wedge]

Skip it, you don't need to beat that guy for the Achievement.

[rancid dagger]

I did get a || catalyst for the 1st one though, but yes, a cosmetic for the 2nd ||

[errant wedge]

2nd is all you need.

[dawn spindle]

you don't need to, but know that I did beat it 😈

[rocky raptor]

it sucks, but there is a trick to that makes it so much smoother

[nova temple]

Act 3 ||I wonder if the similarities between Visages and the Scavenger - giant creatures who have and use masks - means anything...||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||Idr what the Fading Boy says about the Scavenger. It's a Clea creation, so maybe she was inspired by Visages? The echo of her in the resin lady mentions she makes her Nevrons to kill Aline's creations to honor Verso's own, so maybe the Scavenger is meant to be her also making an homage to Verso?||

[nova temple]

||Yeah, maybe something like that||

[rancid dagger]

Act 2 || oh no, there's another parry? ||

[pulsar citrus]

Act 3 all || After playing the whole game, I gotta say a hot take that there should be actually even more types of parries. (and yes I know I was just in the place Soia was where just the introduction of gradient parry/counter messed up all my senses but I still think the game could have been really had some dynamic ness to it in the enemy turn that wasn't just normal parry. Jumps and Gradient do fill that role but now I feel like there could have been 2 different sorts of reactions too (dodge not counting as it just feels like it is just a safer form of parry that you use if you can't master normal parry yet)||

[brisk orbit]

ohh I get it now

[dawn spindle]

time to do a little expeditioning I guess

I failed the first parry, inexcusable

Act 3 ||post renoir draft||||abyss|| ||Why does We Lost go soooooo hard||

||I ALMOST got the sword of lumiere attack down||

[nova temple]

The harder the boss, the harder the music

[dawn spindle]

||whoop I only missed the last attack now, I'm so close to breakthrough, then I'll only have to finish learning the light attack speed and I'll be set... for phase 2... and then idk what hell awaits in 3||

my controller freaking died like this... (same spoilers as above) At least it was during my own attack

[errant wedge]

Late Act 2 ||I have no memory of this scene: https://fixvx.com/Leonsdrafts/status/2010095129349239202||

Leon (@Leonsdrafts)

Funniest scene in the whole game. The way Verso and Monoco were just egging Lune on to try it😭 You can tell they thought they were hilarious in this moment.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 10, 2026, 9:03 PM

||Does this only happen if you try to beeline to the Monolith without getting the Barrier Breaker first?||

[nova temple]

yes

[errant wedge]

Makes sense.

||I also missed the Verso getting cut in half scene in my playthrough.||

Things saved for an eventual NG+ I suppose.

[rancid dagger]

time to itade nai

[rancid dagger]

the world map music is also real good

[rocky raptor]

||Yeah you get it if you go to the barrier at any point before getting the Barrier Breaker||

...discord why you do this to me

[sullen quartz]

Same tags ||It's seriously one of my favorite tracks in the OST. Might even be third place.||

[dawn spindle]

same

[dawn spindle]

I've a mechanical question I had not considered til now, what counts as a turn?
Act 3 gen ||I'm here looking at Sciel's Fortune Fury and it isn't working how I thought it would? 🤔 ||

On other note, Act 3 ||post renoir's draft|| ||abyss|| ||I'm now consistently parrying the sword of lumière! And I'm almost having a breakthrough through the light speed attack, almost||

[nova temple]

Elaborate

[dawn spindle]

To expand on this ||it says an ally does double damage during one turn, I've used it on Maelle, it works normally, (or as intended), she does a crapton of dmg, okay. But then if I use gradient attacks with Maelle it no longer affects her skills after even though that should be the same turn?||

[dawn spindle]

was on it

[dawn spindle]

I've changed my strategy to count on this but 🤔 I don't get it

or rather, it hadn't even occured to me that's not the same turn

[fallow geode]

||gradient attacks trigger a bonus turn||

[dawn spindle]

Why does that not show?

[nova temple]

||There's some unintuitive stuff around how "play again" works, and I think gradient attacks hook into that - so the gradient attack takes one turn, and it just gives you a free one immediately. I suspect you'll find that if you use your free turn to do a "play again" move, it won't work, because you only ever get one freebie||

[dawn spindle]

||anything else that triggers a second turn you can see on the left||

[dawn spindle]

You are correct in your suspicion

[nova temple]

It just do be like that

[dawn spindle]

||i think the unintuitive part here for me is that when you do play again you can see the character icon being inserted on the turns on the left, which, along with the descriptions, makes it very clear it is a separate turn||

[dawn spindle]

Pain

[nova temple]

Probably just a little bit of technical jank

We've got this tech to make this thing happen, let's repurpose it for this other thing

[errant wedge]

It is two consecutive turns.

Clearly you are not a ||Cheater|| user. 😔

[dawn spindle]

Nope

[nova temple]

Act 3 ||Oh, dang, I never noticed that the ceiling of Renoir's atelier is also painted - seems like with Axons||

[rocky raptor]

Act 3 ||The Manor|| ||That Canvas in the duplicate atelier taunts me. Feels like it should be dlc or something||

[patent forge]

||I love cheating||

[dawn spindle]

I just parried a full combo while looking down at the cat 😭
But I still can't manage to parry that one other attack

[errant wedge]

Bella is a pro gamer fr.

[sullen quartz]

||There's also the fact that Lorien Testard deliberately left all the Manor tracks out of the soundtrack album, because he says he's saving them for something else. Hmm...||

[brisk orbit]

I love this game so much

I have daydreams about it

[exotic ember]

Omg my monolith is shipping soon apparently

I need to figure out where I’m going to put that

[rancid dagger]

itade nai time

[dawn spindle]

E33 Act 3 ||I was doing some like 25 mill with Maelle's stendhal a few days ago and now I'm not passing the 11m, and I'm not sure what's the difference, obviously something in my build stacked up consistently every time and now it is not? 🤔 but what, I'm doing just about the same. I guess I'll have to go and check 😩 ||

||post Renoir's draft|| ||I think a whole lot of my enjoyment from this fight is having to start phase 2 every time and We Lost hits in and I'm in pure bliss while i get annihilated ||

[merry lance]

||Are you remembering to Gambler?||

[dawn spindle]

||I have empowering parry, I have immaculate but I'm not receiving any hits so that should still be there, and I do have warming up but this does generally happen in turn 2 so that is also consistent 🤔 I don't think I have anything else that could vary... she has greater powerful and Fortune Fury on her...||

||oh i also have at death's door since her health is usually 1 anyway||

[dawn spindle]

I don't have it on

[candid kindle]

|| Maybe it's the Marked debuff? ||

[dawn spindle]

shouldn't be 🤔

[errant wedge]

If you can take screenshots easily you might want to just snap a screen when you hit the counter to see the list of all the luminas that are triggering.

[dawn spindle]

the counter is working normally

well I'm sure everything's working normally

the attack that's doing less is ||stendhal|| but because ||stendhal is just killing phase 1 in one hit I don't really get to see the lumina's pop up lol||

||and in phase 2 I don't get to stack up all the crap because I die to the light speed attack ||

[dawn spindle]

okay, this is the furthest I've ever gone 😩

I'm in that "just one more try dammit" mode now

I should go be responsible

I closed the game 😌

[pulsar citrus]

Act 3 || Renoir's Drafts boss || ||Simon all || ||Nsf Usha || || Boy Usha has yet to experience the biggest plot twist (gameplay wise) that would ever be hit.||

[exotic ember]

You’ll get this Usha! Eventually!

[dawn spindle]

I got the one attack parried! (Once)

[nova temple]

Parry it!

[dawn spindle]

I have a guess at what this says but won't click 😔

[dawn spindle]

just did this 3 times in a row, now imagine i can do this with my main team instead

[dawn spindle]

aaaaaaaaaah

Act 3 ||post renoir draft|| ||I got him to be red||

||the triple sword has the same cadence as the double so pretty easy, now, my team being gone is pain 😭 ||

||Do I actually have to build Monoco 😭 ||

[nova temple]

||This is as far as I got with honest tries||

[dawn spindle]

||It is only bothering me because I wanted the XP on my main team so I can get to level 99 without grinding tbh ||

||I think I can sorta control the damage to the most output before being removed but its tricky when my parries do increasingly more damage ||

[dawn spindle]

second time in a row btw, I think tht's a good indicative

I am giddy

One more try 😌

GOOOOT IIT

||I gommaged the guy to death, I didn't think he was gonna die, I got too excited and didn't look at the number but I did over 40% of it's health with it lmao||

Also, it was a no dmg fight 😌

come again?

[dawn spindle]

so... what was this?

[dawn spindle]

Is this worth or just in case you feel like (which I totally get)

I have go get ready since I'm being social today but now I wanna keep playing

I'm so close to the end, I feel I've been stuck down here forever (I kinda have)

[nova temple]

That's just a QOL feature they added to some bosses

[nova temple]

||So has he 😏 ||

[merry lance]

||After release people wanted to fight Simon again (perhaps without a one-shot build), so they patched that in along with the difficulty modifiers||

[dawn spindle]

that's cool

I'm not going to... PROBABLY

I can't believe I'm free of that fight

it IS possible I will actually finish this game!?

[exotic ember]

And then after you finish the game’s story, you do the tower

[nova temple]

She can do most of the tower now

[dawn spindle]

I'm almost done with the tower

that said imma go do the dlc first anyway

I'm also missing a couple of things

[rancid dagger]

Act 2 || Well, I was right on at least one account so far ||

[brisk orbit]

nice

[pulsar citrus]

|| Simon removes the party from the Canvas.

That is one of the most famous "what in the world?" moment in the game while playing for everyone.

That was also a big shock for me. But it was just as much a bottleneck because my backup team was not doing as much damage my primary and the lumina difference was staggering (before the DLC, there wasn't much ways I had left to get color of lumina that wasn't a glitch. So I had to fight a Gestral Merchant near the Draft again and again and get 1.4 CoL per fight ( 1 CoL guaranteed with chances of dropping 2))

Not only that, unlike you who had a hitless run with his attacks (congratulations) I was still struggling with never being able to do the Long Combo even when at just 2nd Phase. I had done a lot of mental imaging of that move by jacking defense and health to get more chances to fight and survive.

And even watching the attack on YouTube and I still don't know if I could not do it just because I sucked at parrying or if the R1 button was just not responding fast enough against the attack to parry on time.

I then decided to wait until holidays to give it another go in January but by then the Thank You update had come around and I was just too much done with this guy so I finally made an Immortal Verso build with a guide and killed him with that

In the end, I had to give up my plan of doing it the hard way but the fights in the Update were still cool (after jacking the life)

||

[pulsar citrus]

Hehe yeah

Act 3 DLC || Endless Towers || || this does not include the Ultra Bosses. Those were quite a nightmare. They once again made me go and open wiki to find every single lumina that I am missing and get it

At least this time the buildcrafting was done by myself. I had jobbed Lampmaster by myself before finding all the Luminas. (I was actually lacking some really good ones)

It also made my fight with Duolliste easier as I was struggling to even do the 1st phase for 2 days before and even doing it would take me half hour each time only to die immediately to 2nd Phase and not getting to practice but now I could clean 1st Phase quick and move to next.

I also wasted my time on Clea for more than 3 hours like a buffoon and only having made a dent in her health to quarter way through when she introduced even newer attacks. I tried learning those too with all those shields I had stockpiled with Monoco until I decided to just make a stunlock build. Which is absolutely why I think they gave Simon an anti Stun build.

Though I think they should have made him stunnable at least once. And then he could have had some kind of immunity. He is faster than Verso anyway to do any Stunlock shenanigans. ||

[exotic ember]

Act 3 || Endless tower || || Superbosses ||

|| Yeah I eventually will need to see what luminas I’m missing, grind a bit of CoL for the backup team, and get everyone leveled up a bit for TDS.

Still need to do Duollistes and Clea 2 as well though, which I should be able to do with the main team today as is afaik ||

[dawn spindle]

Act 3 ||Verso's Draft||

[nova temple]

Good stuff

[dawn spindle]

||I think I just punched a kid into oblivion||

[nova temple]

Yes

[exotic ember]

Justifiably

[patent forge]

Ending spoilers ||you know, I would be more sympathetic to almost picking Mellels ending if her painting life wasn't 13 years of being a lonely sad orphan rather than her real world life being the child of one of the most wealthy and influential people of not France||

||but also I don't think they could of made her story work if she had a good life...because then she probably would have lost someone close||

[pulsar citrus]

All || there would also be a lot less reason for her to go to the Expedition. As she would not feel the otherness that she does in the canon version. ||

[rocky raptor]

All ||Saw a twitter thread where someone found a newspaper with a picture of Gustave in the Manor and it spawned all sorts of theorizing...then someone slid in with the news it's just a reused asset from Lumiere xD||

[dawn spindle]

Guys, I'm not digging the DLC 😔

I reckon ill be done by Tuesday since I'm trying to not play today

[exotic ember]

Rip

[dawn spindle]

well i went in a little...

Act 3, DLC ||Verso's Draft|| ||I found a guy that mde me shoot balloons, now I dislike this even more 😩 ||

I really don't like the aesthetic, the vibe and some of the idle music

I also ||haven't fought any boss yet but the regular enemies are not something I like, and the status effect is just annoying||

[errant wedge]

E33 ALL

[nova temple]

It didn't super jive with me either

[dawn spindle]

I do have this I guess

[nova temple]

there's a better one, but I don't know where it comes from...

maybe uberbosses

[dawn spindle]

Yeah... idk it's just a type of aesthetic that I think is funny for 5 minutes before I'm just completely done with it. ||and the happy merry music just makes me go 🙄 ||

[dawn spindle]

We'll see, I will finish the DLC, I'm incapable of not doing so

||I fought the merchant but I don't have anywhere near enough chroma... am currently circling to ensure I got all the upper areas done||

[pulsar citrus]

I was raging at it for 2 and a half hours.

DLC || Post balloon game || || I didn't rage at it when I played it the first time. But the next time I was actually finishing my Picto collecting and that made this worse. I was just stuck there for 2 and a half hours doing the activity where the task itself is of 15 seconds to finish.

I tried with mouse, with analog, changing both's sensitivity at many different levels.

Seeking hints from YouTube.

Tried sticking to a lane, good general advice but still not enough. When I finally did it, it was for pure luck and I was just gald to be out of that he'll.

At least the Beach diving game is purely cosmetic.||

[exotic ember]

I think I missed this

[pulsar citrus]

DLC gen || other than that, I think I actually like this area. A place that actually explores Verso's hopes and dreams to unadulterated amount really sells. I almost cried when the merry go round scene happened with Verso and then again with Monoco.

The Enemies are interesting lore wise. Have good attacks and the status effects is something that actually made me be a bit wary of it instead of just power through it like I did with other Status effects.

Of course due to the enemies being scaled to be fought before doing last of the Endless Tower and Renoir's Drafts. I have to jack their HP up by 5 times until I could struggle but even there taking the Immortal Verso build is just mistake (even with the nerf) as it trivialises it so I even removed that. It actually felt better to have some variety in playstyle now that I was free from the Hell of fighting against Simon. (Then I was shot 52 times in my back)

Of course once I felt I had fought at least each kind of enemy once or twice, I returned them to normal HP and plowed through them.

I do wish they dropped feet for Monoco (I know they are not Nevrons but Monoco seriously needs some new skills. Currently Creation Void is the only one that can match up with the damage scaling with some of the other's skill and even that by not much.

Even his support skills are not great other than very few, he might not have been as useful if it wasn't for his gradient being useful. ||

[errant wedge]

I'm assuming they're talking about the ||Half-Baked Gestral who gives you the Trigger-Happy Pictos||? ||I think I beat that guy very quickly by just shooting the balloons with mouse aim.||

If it's something else then yeah Idk.

[exotic ember]

Ohhh yeah I remember now. I did do that game. Forgot about that lol

[errant wedge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6bFELoiqLBiGdopMsXnvso?si=11e8e894d0a64048

Obscur track from the... uh, Act 3 ||Painting Workshop?|| is stuck in my head.

[dawn spindle]

Yesterday I was doing workout to Act 1 ||Lampmaster||

Ive made a selection of various OSTs for the gym

[errant wedge]

That's a good one.

At the big Paris show of Painted Symphony they even did Act 1 ||the whole turning on lamps ominously one by one|| intro for that song.

[dawn spindle]

I'm buying my London flight tickets today. I'm pretty excited

https://tenor.com/view/aliphobe-bunny-rabbit-running-running-in-circles-gif-21893441

[brisk orbit]

[fallow geode]

flights to see https://apaintedsymphony.expedition33.com/#dates

[rocky raptor]

E33 All ||https://twitter.com/_Lunerim_/status/2013253050392314345?t=lhzizp6FfRj2mcLc1wVYng&s=19 ||

Ace✨Lune's Wife (@_Lunerim_)

my favorite Expedition 33 duo

X · Jan 19, 2026, 2:11 PM

[nova temple]

full game ||Some interesting observations in this video https://youtu.be/EFUdlm7VpLk but I feel like it's inconsistent in whether it claims that people gommage into the color of their own chroma, or the color of the chroma of the Painter doing the gommageing||

[rocky raptor]

||Yeah i saw either this video or a different one on it and there's a degree of inconistency that my guess would be either artistic handwave, or their behind the scenes rule is just looser||

[dawn spindle]

I'm stuck in the dumbest crap

Dlc ||Verso's Draft|| ||There's a minigame on a seesaw and I don't know what am i supposed to do? Like what's the correct timing? I'm baffled||

[nova temple]

That was a little tricky to get right

it's weird timing

[dawn spindle]

||hi edgy-not-esquie that Verso painted at some point||

blinks

Ok, the DLC has now massively improved

But also I'm not doing this tonight

This song slaps tho

||is it possible to parry this fast? Sheesh||

[exotic ember]

|| It is indeed ||

[dawn spindle]

Yes yes it is

I can't parry cause I'm dancing tho

[exotic ember]

Yeah they cooked yet again

[dawn spindle]

Yes, this is really fun

[exotic ember]

Also y’all my E33 monolith arrived in the mail today apparently!!! Gotta wait until Thursday morning to open it though

[dawn spindle]

i need this song in my life

one more try, just for the song

Oh crap is this song in the free extras?

Oh hell yes

me: coffee doesn't get on my way of sleeping
me with this song:

https://tenor.com/view/dance-kid-club-gif-9152583

(at 2am)

[nova temple]

Mine also arrives in a couple of days

[errant wedge]

There's people claiming that with 436 GoTYs, E33 has now surpassed Elden Ring with its 429 GoTYs to become the most GoTY'd game of all time. The GoTY GOAT. The question I ask is: where the hell are they getting this many GoTY's from anyway
How are there even 436 gaming publications giving awards? Are they counting random content creators? Does the Coxxie win count?

The only one I care about is the one on the big stage with the medley, and I'm a shallow mf who cares about it because it's on a big stage and has a goddamn medley.

[errant wedge]

DLC ||Osquio theme|| storming slaps.

Gonna be honest tho it sounds like it belongs in Cyberpunk 2077.

[dawn spindle]

I can see that, but it does have an E33 cadence

[sullen quartz]

DLC OST ||When I listened to the new tracks, I immediately loved "The End In Me". But Osquio's theme certainly grew on me after a few listens.||

[dawn spindle]

I really disliked that one 😅

[merry lance]

Gimme 20 minutes and 20 buck and I'll spin up a game review website with a small handful of reviews and a GOTY award for E33 to push it to 437

[dawn spindle]

Ah wait no

I do love that one

It's another one I disliked heavily

[errant wedge]

||Whee Whoo Days||?

[dawn spindle]

I dont recall the name, I'll check tomorrow

[sullen quartz]

I just love how I keep finding E33 tracks during album relistens that I didn't pay attention to the first time but love once I hear them again. It's like every time I think I've finished my E33 favorites playlist, I'm adding more.

[sullen quartz]

Okay good, haha, I don't know how you could have disliked that one 😅

[errant wedge]

It's the ambient happy sounding track.

[dawn spindle]

Yeah, I don't like any song except the 2 we mentioned

But there's one I specially disliked

[sullen quartz]

My most recent addition was "Tout Ce Que Je Suis, Por Toi". I don't know its in-game context in the slightest, but the string-piano combo and odd time signature are just lovely.

[dawn spindle]

Morning this is still me

https://tenor.com/view/shake-your-tail-feather-gif-10548281538294691794

[dawn spindle]

Ah, the attacks turned invisible, lovely

I love a good buggy fight

[nova temple]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-gestral-jive-dance-gif-3157077815673465938

[errant wedge]

New show & tell item acquired.

[nova temple]

Hmm

[dawn spindle]

...

[nova temple]

Monolith music box is tight though

[dawn spindle]

Very nice

[exotic ember]

Hell yeah! So hyped to open mine tomorrow morning!

[nova temple]

Ah, I guess that's intended - the product page lists this as a steelbook

that's fine, it's not like I could've used a disk anyway

[dawn spindle]

It could have a place holder though

Its just weird that it's empty

[nova temple]

Yeah, they could've thrown an empty disk or something

[exotic ember]

I mean I’d be happy if my set came with a surprise steelbook, empty or not

[dawn spindle]

Or it could have - not a cd thing at all and just be a box

[nova temple]

It is just a box though - it's just meant for your disk

[exotic ember]

Physical media. Could you imagine

[nova temple]

probably a consequence of Laced Records thinking about music products

[errant wedge]

I had to look up whether a disc could actually hold the game, and with E33 being only 44 GB it looks like a Blu-ray actually can.

A hefty chungus game like BG3 at 145 GB would be a nay.

[fallow geode]

a fake paper/card disk with more art would also be a good option

[coral trout]

My sister suggested I play Exp 33. 😂

[pulsar citrus]

Oh my god, I did not know that BG3 was 145 GB

I know some modern shooter games reach those levels. But that is an insane number for a game this popular.

[exotic ember]

Dang, this stuff is really nice! Need to decide where it’ll live ultimately.

Music box monument is heftier than I expected. Never owned a steelcase before but it is very pretty. I can see the appeal

-# Also yes glass desk bad. I want to replace it but also kinda hope I can hold out until next year when I will almost assuredly be moving

-# I live in perpetual fear of it shattering, disintegrating into countless little shards

I love how even the box it came in looks nice/is a good display piece

[brisk orbit]

I miss game dearly

[brisk orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAoqkDuTA-4&list=RDBAoqkDuTA-4&start_radio=1

[brisk orbit]

I wonder if Soia finished the game

[rancid dagger]

Soia was travelling

I wonder if Soia remembers anything about the game

I'm somewhere in act 2

[dawn spindle]

I have not yet

[brisk orbit]

What is your favorite moment in the game?

Mine is

E33 All ||When Maelle meets Alicia in the manor while the song "Alicia" plays during Act 2.||

And also

E33 All ||The Painted Renoir boss fight at the end of Act 2||

I love game so much

[brisk orbit]

E33 Act 2 ||ohhh Andy Serkis is the guy that played Caesar and the guy in age of ultron||

[sullen quartz]

||Don't forget Gollum in The Lord of the Rings! He's one of the best actors out there and he kills it as Renoir.||

[pulsar citrus]

|| he also had a role in Planet of the Apes if I remember||

[sullen quartz]

||That's what w0dp meant by Caesar, I think||

[pulsar citrus]

Ahhh

[inner valve]

I hit a mental block in Act 2 when ||the world opens up a bit and Esquie can go througb coral, and I'm intended to go fight two Axons.||
Kinda just wondering about general missable content: ||am I in danger of missing out on stuff if I just rush the story at this point? I had been trying to go back to get feet for Monoco but got a bit overwhelmed with some of the tougher enemies out in the world and amount of exploration suddenly open to me. Was in love with the game but kinda hit this block and haven't played in two weeks. If I go for story am I gonna hit a point of no return where I can no longer access some equipment, abilities, content etc?||

[nova temple]

There is no missable content once you are out of the prologue

[brisk orbit]

I rushed on my first playthrough and it was better in a way because I didn't cheese my way through the bosses

[inner valve]

Very good to know, thank you :)
I'm such a terrible completionist, but I kind of just want to enjoy the story and see it to its completion (for both me and my wifes sakes, she's invested as an observer :3)

[dawn spindle]

Imagine trying to get everything done in e33
/s

[dawn spindle]

Am back 😌

All my muscle memory for this fight is gone 😩

[reef iron]

what is your controller?

[dawn spindle]

Nyxi

Its... mid

It has hall effect, which is the reason I got it

because all my controllers get drift after like 8-12 months

but the buttons are so clicky

and the triggers are binary

[pulsar citrus]

What does binary here means?

[dawn spindle]

it acts like a button, no path

[dawn spindle]

Can someone confirm for me E33 ALL/achievements ||the 2 hidden achievements I'm missing are ending related?||

[nova temple]

Hmm, I don't know what you are missing

[dawn spindle]

||well, are there 2 hidden achievements related to the end?||

[nova temple]

||I don't know which ones are hidden, and which ones are not. There is one to beat Simon. There's a "get to the end of the game." You might be missing those?||

[dawn spindle]

I certainly have the first one of those

Ah well

I guess I'll find out

[nova temple]

||Top of the Endless Tower?||

[dawn spindle]

Oh, might be that one, okay

Okay that one I'm intentionally leaving

[nova temple]

I would say that's better

[dawn spindle]

I have decided to ditch the DLC

no point doing something I'm not having fun with

so I've been finishing up collectibles

and am currently at E33 all ||Lumière||

[nova temple]

Excellent

[dawn spindle]

Yeah yeah, Im going to finish the game, what do you know

(This is where I close the game and forget to get back to it for a month)

[nova temple]

I believe in you

[dawn spindle]

||I have put enemy health at 5x, idk if that'll be enough||

[nova temple]

Maybe not, but you'll have some time to adjust

[dawn spindle]

yeah that's what I thought

[fallow geode]

That's Brand theft

[dawn spindle]

Maybe it's Brand theft when you do it

I fought an enemy just to see and seems about right 🤔

[nova temple]

Maybe 5x is good