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west escarp
empty locust
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I chose D13 for my Avatar 3 Imax theater

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and yes, I am watching it alone

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if anyone wants to fly to korea to watch it with me, you are welcome!

topaz oyster
verbal lintel
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3!
Hours!
VoidChamp

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minor ledge
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yay

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i will share my thoughts

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i will have many

lucid haven
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Dammit scrolled up and this was a repost sorry

frank quail
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BWAAA
isn't that noise a full meme at this point?

cold sequoia
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I think it's been so long that it's no longer a meme

dusk hound
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(Realistically she wouldn’t need a dragon because she can fly but I don’t care)

empty locust
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Avatar 3 was okay

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Nothing new tbh

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It was a mix of 1 and 2 ngl

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1 is my personal favorite

distant birch
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Oh is that out?

dusk hound
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^^^

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I thought it wasn’t out yet

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Maybe some early screenings?

distant birch
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-# oh I just assumed it came out and I didn't notice xD

empty locust
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A lot of movies release in Korea first because of its strong market and audience

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Anyways, it released today and I watched it at 8:30 am which was the earliest

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so that makes me one of the first people to watch it!

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popcorn was my breakfast

cold sequoia
dusk hound
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Paramount REALLY wants WB holy crap

minor ledge
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i dont want netflix to win dear god i dont theyre horrible but i definetly dont want paramount

dusk hound
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Netflix is the lesser of two evils

minor ledge
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Or did the saudis drop out of the race

dusk hound
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Weren’t the Saudis WITH Paramount??

cold sequoia
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that's the paramount deal

minor ledge
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AH misremembering then

molten jetty
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Yep

cold sequoia
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the third option was Comcast

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but that was always a fringe offer

minor ledge
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but yeah paramounts just the wost option all around

lone canyon
minor ledge
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paramounts one good movie in the past like 5 years had the worse marketing ive ever seen

burnt shale
minor ledge
burnt shale
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i was gonna say at minimum you have that and the dnd movie also multiple sonics for what thats worth

minor ledge
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OH killers of the flower moon was paramount

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thought that was apple

minor ledge
silver oyster
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Fallout season 2 tomorrow!

empty locust
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I have a bad bad headache

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Watching 3D for 3 hours probably didn't help

cold sequoia
terse crystal
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I don’t really like 3D at all

winged mountain
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I watched the original in 2D, everyone told me I was missing out, so I tried the sequel in 3D, but yeah I don't particularly think it was worth it

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maybe it's better for people with perfect vision or something

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my vision isn't even bad but it just made the movie look worse

lone canyon
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Still mad they have Star Trek 😔

fair dirge
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I've been watching some videos about Avengers Doomsday and I think it's obvious that they're trying to skip almost all the content after 2019

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I guess targeting the casual audience that abandoned them in Endgame

winged mountain
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I don't know if that's how I would phrase it but sure, they want it to be accessible to anyone, certainly

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you can't make a billion dollars if your movie is made for people who watched all of their busts and bombs over their past 5 years

west escarp
fair dirge
dire moss
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its a smart business decision but a cowardly creative decision. I'm not sure exactly what changed in creative over the years but it bums me out

fair dirge
lone canyon
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Marvel was never one for the creatives tbh

winged mountain
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the reason it doesn't bother me, I think, is because from my perspective, those movies already failed. WIth only a couple exceptions they weren't building towards anything to begin with, and with those exceptions they already pivoted away from those goals

lone canyon
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Pre 2019 mcu had three unironically good movies and three more with hype moments and aura

winged mountain
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like the multiverse saga is a bust, I just accept it and roll with it

fair dirge
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I suppose all they had left was nostalgia.

winged mountain
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pretty much. I suppose the point I am making is that I don't think they could do some sort of Brandon Sanderson magic to connect all the dots that are there into a great climax, the pieces just don't fit

fair dirge
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That's why I think they also want to revisit some of Civil War, pitting Doom against Captain America, since they haven't had time to develop Reed Richards' rivalry

fair dirge
west escarp
winged mountain
lone canyon
winged mountain
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like that sort of high-continuity concept just sort of works until it doesn't, eventually people drop off and it's very hard to get people to hop on when the growth stops

west escarp
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I think I would’ve substituted Black Panther for Civil War

lone canyon
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It started strong but the ending was real bad

west escarp
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That’s the MCU movie I think is most likely to endure in pop culture long term

fair dirge
lone canyon
lone canyon
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The end of civil war was absolutely hype though

cold sequoia
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you have to tag spoilers

molten jetty
gritty sierra
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civil war ||lmao, as if "we should all register with the US government and consider ourselves an arm of this country's military in practice" is not even less appealing||

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||he picked the wrong people to decide they should all be accountable to||

molten jetty
gritty sierra
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||i'd pick steve's stance ANY DAY if my guy came up to me and said "hey i decided for all of us that we need to ask THE US GOVERNMENT for permission to do our thang now and forever, alright"||

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||as if steve's stance was "wow i just love being a vigilante so much" i just||

molten jetty
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It was good

lone canyon
lone canyon
gritty sierra
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i mean like, come on

lone canyon
lucid haven
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Can't wait for doomsday so I can see more of them

molten jetty
lucid haven
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What promo is everyone talking about

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I thought the captian america thing was a meme

cold sequoia
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Avatar 3 has exclusive Doomsday teasers

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different ones in different weeks

dusk hound
lucid haven
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Are they on YouTube yet?

cold sequoia
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rips are being posted and getting DMCAd

lucid haven
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Okay we'll ill probs be watching it in the week between Christmas and newyears

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So will see at least one of them

molten jetty
# lucid haven What promo is everyone talking about

Leaked trailer / leaked info ||the first trailer will focus on Cap. The next on Thor. The next is Doom. The next is a regular trailer.
RDJ is Doom. So there is already that indication they will ignore the last 5 years and focus on Steve Rogers vs. Iron Man lookalike ||

lucid haven
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Idk if we should assume anything like "they will ignore everything post endgame" with that information

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That seems a bit pessimistic

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And seems a bit of a leap

oak ivy
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well they cant ignore FF

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also arent the x men supposed to matter at some point

lone canyon
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Wonder how they’re gonna do magneto and professor x

oak ivy
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are they going to?

molten jetty
winged mountain
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it's been reported for some time now that (Doomsday) ||many classic FOX X-Men characters will appear in Doomsday, though I don't recall which is which.|| Beyond that, MCU ||Feige has said that they're planning a 'Mutant Saga' after the 'Multiverse Saga', so once Secret Wars is over, they'll probably start rebuilding with an X-Men series||

molten jetty
lone canyon
oak ivy
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alternate reality

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maybe

winged mountain
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Solid JJ style

molten jetty
lone canyon
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They’d have to either set it in the 60s, make him super old, or just do some slow aging shenanigans

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Or freeze him lmao

dusk hound
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They’re basically rebooting after Secret Wars

molten jetty
oak ivy
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do i want to see the mcu try to do a holocaust backstory

molten jetty
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Lots of options

oak ivy
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i think the answer is no

winged mountain
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I will not be surprised if they do some different, fictionalized genocide backstory that hits all the same beats

lone canyon
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They could also do the Yugoslav wars

oak ivy
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it never works when the mcu tries to do things like this. seeing islamaphobia in ms marvel was just not working

oak ivy
lone canyon
dusk hound
molten jetty
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I think honestly that changing it to anything but the holocaust it problematic, but I do agree that the MCU isn’t good at handling such topics with tact

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The way the first fox movie did it was good

lucid haven
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I think ill hold reservations till I see them try

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What ever they do might work

dusk hound
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I do feel like the farther we move away from when the Holocaust was, its increasingly harder to do Magneto’s backstory that way, but I’m always in the boat of slow aging being a mutant power of his along with the magnetism

lone canyon
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The Xmen movies did professor x and magneto better than the comics

cold sequoia
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Eventually they will have to either stop using Magento, change his backstory, or make him immortal

lone canyon
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I’m kind of against magneto being immortal because I would prefer the Xmen be more grounded? As opposed to “yeah we’re just gods”

cold sequoia
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If they cast a young magneto, which I find likely, they'll need to think of something

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I think the backstory is just too important to completely leave out, maybe the child of survivors or something along those lines

oak ivy
winged mountain
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yeah, X-Men 2000 had a 60-ish Magneto, he was the right age at the time for a holocaust survivor. If you want your movies to take place in the present day, it's hard to do that organically anymore

lucid haven
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I do hope Ian and Patrick show up at some point tho

cold sequoia
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I think retro Xmen was also at one point the plan but idk if thats still gonna happen

oak ivy
lone canyon
cold sequoia
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There are definitely a lot of things they can do to keep the themes

molten jetty
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They can also have an incursion that merges two universes occur, the XMen universe being one from the 80s.

lone canyon
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I think the timey wimey stuff may be too complex for most audiences

oak ivy
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doomsday ||more or less confusing than bringing back rogers and tony lmao||

lucid haven
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I think they can do multiverse stuff very easily to get them to the right ages

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Mabey the holocaust happened in 1980 in some other universe

lone canyon
lucid haven
lucid haven
oak ivy
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i am positive that will be the case

dusk hound
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Saw a good question in a friends discord the other day and I’ll ask it here: Who would you guys rather have a better run in the next decade or so? And who do you guys think WILL have the better run? Marvel films or DC films?

molten jetty
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I do not think that can be the case

dusk hound
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My answer is obv DC and DC

molten jetty
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F4 ||Doom is from the F4 universe.||

oak ivy
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i think DC will clear marvel. the only way i see it going wrong is if the gunn isms get too much

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the batman also count

lucid haven
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Imo DC will have a better run in the 2030s

molten jetty
lone canyon
lucid haven
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But it does come down to how they do mutants

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I agree with that

oak ivy
lone canyon
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Please just give me Batman solving crimes, Dick is in uni and dating Babs, Damian is in juvenile reformatory, Cass is a ballerina, Jason is a crime lord and Tim is somewhere idk

molten jetty
oak ivy
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dick dating babs would be elite

lone canyon
oak ivy
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camille read ultimate x men

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it has nothing to do with the x men and you would love it

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you should also read power fantasy

lone canyon
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Okay my personal plan for Batman is:
movie 1: dick becomes nightwing, we introduce Jason as Robin, contrast between Dick and Jason’s backstories and personalities, Bruce bonds with both of them and solves crimes

Movie 2: introduce Cass, the story is about figuring out what to do with her and what her deal is

Movie 3: killing joke + death in the family together

Movie 4: introduce Damian, and have him be Robin after Jason

Movie 5: Utrh

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Sorry Tim Drake fans

dusk hound
oak ivy
lone canyon
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I think she had an actually good run as batgirl

oak ivy
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I will never forgive comics for introducing the hardest ideas ever and then never doing anything with them

lone canyon
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She was also really good with clay face in detective comics

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Oh wait ALSO

west escarp
lone canyon
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I want Helena Wayne to exist in the dcu and be Catwoman and Batman’s baby

lone canyon
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I think they’ve both died before and it didn’t even make them memorable

oak ivy
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Ngl

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Batman and catwoman has no aura

west escarp
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Tim faked his death. He doesn’t get it belong in the dead Robin club

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Steph wasn’t forgettable if you were a teen girl in 2010 and imprinted on her Batgirl run that got canceled for the New52

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But they haven’t used her much at all since 2011

oak ivy
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Teen girl comic fan is a special hell

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You get nothing! Nothing!!!

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Perusing ao3 for your fix

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Tragic

lone canyon
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Tim is just “competent techbro Robin” which is better than nothing but Steph’s personality is just “that girl”

winged mountain
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Tim is mostly memorable since he was the Robin in the 90s-00s animated franchise

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you've got the late-teens Nightwing, and you have the younger Tim, I don't know if Jason was depicted in any adaptation before Red Hood?

lone canyon
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Yeah interest in Jason is really more recent

cold sequoia
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most animated dc shows with a robin are no recognizably a single robin tbh

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generally it's some combination of the first three unless nightwing is also a character

dusk hound
lone canyon
minor ledge
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Hey, I finally watched the new Fantastic Four movie yesterday

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Looks life F4 actually finally got a pretty decent movie

molten jetty
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Yeah. It’s a really solid origin movie with good building of the characters and their status quo.

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FF FS ||Not to mention I found myself totally agreeing with Johnny's take on Silver Surfer. ShallanBlush ||

winged mountain
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is it really an origin movie when they've been established for a couple years or something?

molten jetty
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FF FS ||I really like what they did with Sue to make her a Future Foundation leader and stuff. Really gives her a lot to work with (while stuff being the “mother” of the family).||

molten jetty
dusk hound
west escarp
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Jason is really coasting off his one Under the Red Hood film appearance

lone canyon
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Okay Jason has one good story

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but it’s really good

dusk hound
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DC’s biggest mistake was bringing Jason back

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Should have let Jason stay dead and have him be a constant reminder of Bruce’s biggest failure

lone canyon
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It would reduce the apocalyptically high number of robins

oak ivy
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this isnt counting all the pseudo robins

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like the fox kid

lone canyon
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Duke?

oak ivy
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sure

winged mountain
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If anything I think this failure would bother him more

minor ledge
keen flax
# lone canyon Duke?

What does Duke even do 😭 i feel so bad because in my head hes just the black one 💀

winged mountain
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I think the reason I strongly disagree with that is just, resurrections are just kind of a comic book trope, and I kinda hate the idea that you're allowed to resurrect main characters but never supporting characters

oak ivy
oak ivy
winged mountain
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I sort of look at it as an all or nothing thing, and that 'Jason shouldn't have come back' is the same to me as "Superman should have been done for good in 1990"

oak ivy
west escarp
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Duke is a very active part of the Batman webtoon

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Him and Steph have probably made more appearances there than anywhere else in comics for over a decade

oak ivy
west escarp
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Correct

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Just wait though, in 15-20 years there will be young comic book writers whose idea of the Correct Comic Status Quo To Maintain is the webtoon

lone canyon
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He hasn’t gotten a lot of characterization

keen flax
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So... im not wrong 😭

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At least I get his place in batfam

lone canyon
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I feel like Duke exists because someone said “hey let’s include a black guy in the batfamily” and then uhhh

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Didn’t do anything else

keen flax
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That happens so ridiculously often all I can do is 😑

lone canyon
# oak ivy Real

Also Red Hood is a really interesting premise, they just don’t do anything meaningful with it because they insist on making him part of the Batfam

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When he shouldn’t be!

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He should be an antagonist

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He should not be eating turkey with them on thanksgiving

oak ivy
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"it is a really interesting premise" is basically all most comic stories get to

burnt shale
lone canyon
oak ivy
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i agree! we have one story where this happens

west escarp
lone canyon
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Also HUSH was also apparently pretty good

keen flax
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Ahh I haven't seen that one (the animated movie)

oak ivy
lone canyon
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That counts

oak ivy
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no its doesnt?

lone canyon
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Half marks

oak ivy
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i know jason fans are starving but have standards

lone canyon
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😭

winged mountain
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and to be honest I don't read enough comics to weigh in on whether that applies here

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all I can say is that the movie version was great and I'm glad they made it

west escarp
keen flax
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So ive heard!

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I had a phase where I just watched DCAU movies all the time

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My favorite was judas contract though because of course it was

west escarp
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You’ve seen the Judas Contract dcau movie but you haven’t seen the only one I’d consider mainstream?

keen flax
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I reallly like teen titans 🤣

dusk hound
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Some cute art by Jason Badower

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dusk hound
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Saw the leaked Avengers: Doomsday trailer

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cold sequoia
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Is this the trailer or one of the teasers?

winged mountain
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AFAIK the only 'leak' was the teaser

dusk hound
vernal stirrup
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this question has been bothering meall day

burnt shale
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All time. No. A very good actor with plenty of great roles absolutely.

oak ivy
cold sequoia
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the (first) teaser from Avatar 3 has been posted by many people

winged mountain
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I don’t think there is such a thing as greatest actor of all time, it’s far too subjective, and he doesn’t need to have lived any longer to have been some people’s favorite

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He already is

velvet oriole
burnt shale
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Yep

west escarp
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List that hasn’t aged well

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lucid haven
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Oof

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When was that list written

west escarp
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1970

lucid haven
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That makes sense then

west escarp
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It’s a list of men that male college students at Made Up College most want to be

lucid haven
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There's a couple names on the list tho that I dont know

west escarp
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There’s also a list for the female college

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west escarp
cold sequoia
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also a famous fan of 1930s germany

burnt shale
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he flew across the atlantic

west escarp
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Yes, he was also a Nazi sympathizer. And his child’s kidnapping was the first thing to be called “the crime of the century”

cold sequoia
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yeah I guess he was also a fan of early 1940s germany

lucid haven
cold sequoia
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Coretta King was a civil rights icon

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wife of Martin Luther King Jr

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other two are actors

west escarp
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Sophia Loren and Greta Garbo areactress from the golden age of Hollywood

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Kinda an odd pull for a 1970s comic, since it had been several decades. Sort of like saying that the most popular actress of today is someone who was most active in the 1970s

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I dunno, every woman wants to be Nichel Nichols, who played Uhura on Star Trek

cold sequoia
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I imagine the author/artist grew up when they were popular

west escarp
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Probably, yes

cold sequoia
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they also have Mickey Mantle on the list and he definitely wouldn't be a top choice in the 1970s

minor ledge
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no

lucid haven
minor ledge
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watched whats out of fallout s2

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one of the tv shows

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that has existed

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(it was bad)

ivory night
ivory night
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Why on earth is the F1 movie 2:41 long

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SMH guess I’ll find something else to watch to it that won’t have me up until 2 am

keen flax
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ITS ALMOST 3 HRS??? 😭

minor isle
minor isle
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or Coherence

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or Primer

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or Robocop

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all < 1:30 min

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and vvvv good

distant birch
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I swear every big movie seems to be 2.40+ these days 😭

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-# yes, that is probably an exaggeration

minor isle
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2 hr 30 min -ish

distant birch
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Wasn't each ST 4 episode like... >1hour

minor isle
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yes

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coherence is a movie thats much shorter

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and soooo good

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watch it endnight

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go in blind

distant birch
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I don't think I have time right now but I'll maybe try it later on 😅

placid river
minor isle
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I really don't respect that

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I watch TV episode cuz I don't have time for movie

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and I watch anime episode cuz I don't have time for 45min-hour long western tv episode

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if it was consistent, then it would be a different thing

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if the previous seasons have at max hour long episode, and the next season's shortest episode is longer than the previous season's longest ep

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and 3 eps in total is like 6 hours

distant birch
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I definitely prefer shorter episodes but I trust some shows to do long ones

ivory night
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I just think that if you’re gonna do anything over 47 min you gotta have pacing nailed and uh often streamers don’t

minor isle
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for me, even if the pacing was nailed, i would rather them break it into different episodes

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netflix doesn't have restriction of weekly wait like tv

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and don't really need the "episodic cliffhanger"

dusk hound
minor isle
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only seasonal one

silver oyster
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Season 2 of Fallout is HERE! hehehe

minor ledge
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yep

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it sure is here

silver oyster
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fallout s2 e1 ||big iron on his hip! me want to replay new vegas again||

buoyant scroll
civic trellis
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his sons are also professional VAs, funnily enough

buoyant scroll
wise epoch
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Back to watching Stranger Things S5

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ST S5E2 ||Demogorgon looks so god damn good||

wise epoch
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Stranger Things S5E2 ||I'll take obvious plot twists for 5, ALex. Wow, Mr Whatsit was Vecna? I never could have seen it coming. It's not like that was my literal first thought||

placid river
wise epoch
acoustic pewter
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Stranger Things 5 episode 3 end ||I called that it was Max just a few seconds before the reveal. Of course her mind is still in the Upside Down. Well, really cool that Vecna's got a spanner in his works that no one knew about.||

vernal stirrup
# vernal stirrup
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If Heath Ledger had lived, would he have become the greatest actor of all time?

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14

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18

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2

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No

minor ledge
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but yeah ||vecan was obvious||

lucid haven
dusk hound
dusk hound
wraith sand
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Just out of curiosity, did anyone else think that Batman Begins was actually a better movie than The Dark Knight? Or if not ‘better’ then at least more enjoyable? Or is it just me?

dusk hound
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I am very much in the minority here but I think Batman Begins is the best movie out of the Nolan trilogy

verbal lintel
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There’s no need to fight. They are all:

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agile drift
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Maybe I need to watch them again since I haven't since I was like 16, but honestly I was never all that impressed by the Nolan trilogy. None of the characters are super compelling to me, and the conflicts never really stood out to me that much

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I'm a battinson ride or die instead lol

verbal lintel
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I’d say it’s worth the rewatch. Nolan hides double (sometimes even triple) meanings in every scene you miss on your first watch

keen flax
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-# me who hasnt seen any of them: 🫣

dusk hound
verbal lintel
keen flax
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🫣

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Ive already told him im watching speed racer with him so ill add this to the list 😂

minor ledge
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lol

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lol

dusk hound
minor ledge
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rises is probably nolans worst film tbh its so bad

verbal lintel
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Couldn’t physically have a more wrong take lol.

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minor ledge
oak ivy
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Rises is not a good movie imo

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Also the reason people call batman fascist lmao

placid river
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TDKR is definitely the weakest of the trilogy but I wouldn’t call it a bad movie outright

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||the stock market heist was dumb though||

agile drift
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Corner gas fans wya

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We're watching the Christmas episode rn, lowkey one of my favorite episodes of tv ever

west escarp
wise epoch
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There's some odd changes to S2 of Percy Jackson so far. I wonder why they decided to change what they did

wise epoch
steep bramble
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I haven’t watched it yet, but Rick talked about some changes on the interview with The Newest Olympian. Mostly the general philosophy of them

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distant birch
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I've also been meaning to watch those...

molten jetty
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And now she’s addicted to Evangelion LUL

empty locust
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is percy jackson season 2 good?

feral flower
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Watched Pluribus episode 8
Probably my favorite episode, lotta thoughts
||The way Zosia initially had trouble saying “I” instead of “We” or “She” when talking about Zosia but as she got into that story from Zosia’s childhood she started using I naturally is… interesting. It could be that the Hive is getting better at acting, or maybe telling that personal story did actually pull Zosia’s real personality out of the Hivemind soup a bit.||
||I do like the idea of teaching the Hive Mind individuality, kinda opens the door for more interesting possibilities than just that either we save humanity from the Hivemind or they win. Something where the joining is still in play but is more like… a baseline telepathic empathy rather than something that effectively enslaved you might be nice.||
||Also when Zosia says “We are so excited to have something new to read” that made me realize… they can’t have new books. Even if they were to have Sanderson just churning out new Cosmere books, everyone in the Hive already knows everything Sanderson had planned for the Cosmere and what Sanderson is currently writing, so it’s not really a “new” book. The remaining unjoined humans are literally the only people who can give them new experiences. Which might actually create an interesting dilemma for them, they do enjoy having unjoined humans around but are also driven to convert them all. Maybe the Hive wants to convert Carol but Zosia has gained enough agency to disagree with the Hive and helps Carol out in some way by telling her about the Hive using her eggs to “fix” her and convert her or whatever.||
||And I think Carol’s attitude of “I know you’re are manipulating me and I hate that I’m so lonely and horny that I can’t resist it” is really compelling. It’s not at all rational but no sane person would behave rationally in this situation.||
||Might make it kinda awkward when Manousos arrives to help save the world only to find Carol literally in bed with the enemy.||

hushed moss
hushed moss
dusk hound
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This guy man

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I think he gets a sick kick out of edging us

wise epoch
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I did like rhat

dusk hound
civic trellis
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...i'm sorry, is the audience supposed to cheer and clap at a trailer? LUL

inland jetty
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Clapping and cheering at a movie theater at all feels weird to me, clapping and cheering at a trailer feels absurd

verbal lintel
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Unless the actual actors themselves are in the theater with you, clapping is exceptionally dumb

civic trellis
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also, "we need to remind the audience how to feel again" feels like the sort of self-important line than an exec convinced he was saving cinema would say

verbal lintel
lone canyon
placid river
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This is a satire post

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Did you guys actually think this was real? Are you all okay?

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(Also people actually are cheering at the trailer apparently, so make of that what you will)

civic trellis
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look, have you seen the state of corporate executives recently

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this is not outside of the realm of plausibility

placid river
civic trellis
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again, this sounds like the sort of idea that would be born in an executives' meeting and pushed to implementation by someonen out of touch with reality

molten jetty
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It sounds like the kind of cringe thing that would actually happen lmao

placid river
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Idk, I’m just concerned about how many people here believed an obvious lie because one tweet said it was true

ionic lily
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I would have believed this over RDJ as Doom. Weirder things have happened

oak ivy
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Im also not on twitter anymore so i dont have the meme account memorized

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Luckily i just dont read any tweets shared here

civic trellis
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it was presented without comment, so i assumed it was genuine 🤷

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and as we've just discussed, the lie was not as obvious as you made it out to be

lone canyon
placid river
west escarp
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My dad: we watched the new knife show on Netflix
Me: ?
My dad: With Daniel Craig
Me: oh! You mean the new Knives Out movie

topaz oyster
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And at quasi-live shows like late-night they literally do have big ol APPLAUSE signs for the live audience

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Does not strike me as remotely implausible, just Not The Done Thing right now

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Honestly? This strikes me as the kind of post that would make its way across some corpo's desk and they'd treat it as a sincere and good idea

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Wholly blind to the irony or satire of it all

forest wigeon
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I could actually see a company doing this for a full movie

topaz oyster
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I can't, but only because I see it playing very badly in showings with <20 people and that is a question that would get asked

minor ledge
muted solar
topaz oyster
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They still exist

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They're a lot less normalized than they used to be though

ionic lily
muted solar
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Oh nice

topaz oyster
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In large part because sitcoms are getting phased out

dusk hound
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This is not real

oak ivy
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Or sharing clips on social

minor ledge
wet quest
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Avatar Fire and Ash review:
Good

winged mountain
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I'm not entirely certain if I want to go or not, just because I don't honestly remember the first two, like, at all

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like the most basic of vibes or a couple set pieces

wet quest
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As a regular champion of the idea that people can figure out what's going on halfway into a series, I think you'd be ok. But the first two are definitely helpful and worth watching

dusk hound
#

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

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WE HAVE

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OUR BRAINIAC

lucid haven
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And sometimes i like casting lesser known actors in roles like this

minor isle
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Wake Up Dead Man was really good

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best Knives Out So far

dusk hound
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Best answer

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lucid haven
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So many industries are becoming devoid of poeple being able to be bad or new at a thing for a while and learn

lucid haven
minor ledge
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I wish there was an app to talk about this

gritty sierra
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rian johnson mentions it in a youtube video doing a scene break down

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what's he going to do, refuse to hire renner

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ArZ8w5K9s

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Vanity Fair
Rian Johnson Breaks Down a Scene From 'Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives O...

'Knives Out' director Rian Johnson takes us through the investigation scene where Father Jud is being brought along by Detective Benoit Blanc, accompanied by the local chief of police Geraldine. Johnson explains all of the different quirks Daniel Craig, Josh O'Connor, and the rest of the cast brought to their performances and how this scene set ...

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ionic lily
ivory night
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I think it’s funny and matches the tone of the knives out world. glass onion || I mean they burned the Mona Lisa last film ||

placid river
gritty sierra
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i said it like that because it was obviously ridiculous

gritty breach
topaz oyster
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My only WUDM complaint re: Renner is ||Renner is genuinely very funny and he just didn't get to be that in this movie||

ivory night
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WUDM || Idk if it’s a complaint for me because I think the movie is different than the others structurally but it felt like a lot of the supporting cast was just there. Like Kerry Washington… smoked for most of her part ||

topaz oyster
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I do mean "complaint" in the absolutely mildest sense of the term

ivory night
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Oh I was saying my hang up on the movie with complaint

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There

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My bad

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Was agreeing with you

agile drift
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I really liked WUDM but personally enjoyed the more lighthearted tone in knives out and glass onion

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Glass onion is my favorite in part because of the comedy

ivory night
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All knives out || yeah I think 3 was like a good movie. But the amount of like “Daniel Craig just vibing and being hilarious” was lower||

gritty sierra
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i think WUDM is currently my favourite, i like what it did more

minor ledge
agile drift
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That was definitely really obvious at the beginning but I feel like it kinda faded away after the first 20 min or so and I forgot about it honestly

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Dated for sure though

acoustic pewter
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Glass Onion general ||The fact that it takes place during the COVID-19 pandemic just makes it feel more real to me. More... personalized, I guess? Idk, it's just interesting to me to see fictional media represent an event so significant but also so recent.||

hushed moss
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I really like all three of them for different reasons. Knives out for the mystery, Glass Onion for the comedy, and Wake up Dead Man for the themes.

dusk hound
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It is going to be very interesting in like 5-10 years to look back on media that was made during COVID

dusk hound
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Do wonder what version of Brainiac they’ll go for

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I’d like a mix of his Colu origin from the comics and the AI origin from the animated series tbh

west escarp
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Supergirl cw tv show: features brainiac as a prominent character for several seasons
Supergirl movies: features brainiac as the main antagonist

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I see what you’re about, James…

dusk hound
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Brainiac won’t be the antagonist of Supergirl tho

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He’s not even gonna be in the movie

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Maybe a tease at the end but I doubt that

oak ivy
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We all know gunn is making braniac an ai allegory

west escarp
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He wont???

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Then why is everyone so hyped for his casting announcement

distant birch
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He's the antagonist for the Superman sort of sequel, that might have supergirl in it

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The supergirl movie is adapting a comic he's not in

oak ivy
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How does casting factor into that

dusk hound
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He’s gonna be in Man of Tomorrow, the Superman sequel but not really sequel

west escarp
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Oh

dusk hound
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The basic premise is that Lex and Supes are gonna have to team up against Brainiac

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It is like genuinely crazy that Brainiac is going to be on the big screen for the first time ever

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Can’t believe I’m actually gonna see that in my lifetime

ionic lily
dusk hound
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They should have casted me as Brainiac smh

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Not this random German guy

small quarry
placid river
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Personally I’d like them to go with the STAS version where he’s from Krypton

minor ledge
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lego batman 3 version

dusk hound
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And I love him being tied to Krypton’s destruction

keen flax
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In the mood to watch Daria from start to finish ngl

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Watched it in middle school and latched on to her hard (because of course I did) and it was a big comfort show back in the day sylheart

gritty breach
# minor ledge glass onion is so so 2022 tbh

Glass Onion is the most specifically set of them, being set in May 2020. Knives Out has to be set post-2016 based on how Meg and Jaden act and pre-2020 because there’s no pandemic, but is kind of flexible within that range. I see WUDM as again trying to be a little more flexible, perhaps even implying with Blanc’s career trajectory and changed attitude that it takes place after its own release. It could be 2022-2025 or even a few years beyond.

cold sequoia
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Yeah Glass Onions pandemic setting is very clear, not 2022 or even really 2021

west escarp
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Absolutely meant to be summer or fall 2020. No vaccine yet, but not spring (March-May) because the rich people are too relaxed about the risks of getting COVID

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Everyone was super freaked out those first few months, even people who later demanded an end to pandemic restrictions

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It cant be winter because of the way everyone is dressed for warm weather boarding the boat to the island. So it has to be summer or early fall of 2020

gritty breach
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wikipedia clearly states May which leads me to believe there’s some specific identification i’ve forgotten

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i’ve always read the characters’ flippantness as characterization

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||like, even among the rich people. these guys are stupid and careless||

lucid haven
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Or even recent weeks

oak ivy
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Fallout s2 ep 1 was good

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A really quality show with some really strange writing moments

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Fallout s1 ||drop the bombs to make money makes so little sense to me i am sure there is a twist||

gritty breach
lucid haven
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|| okay I just miss read you that makes more sense||

dusk hound
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I love Troyoboyo

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One of my favorite comic YouTubers

minor ledge
west escarp
wise epoch
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deep breath
Okay
I'm gonna watch Terrifier 3
Merry Christmas to me

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i already dont like how this movie is startiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

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||Please do not hurt or traumatize this little girl I do not want that||

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Instantly deeply upsetting movie

wise epoch
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I love Art the Clown so god damn much, this scene is so god damn funny

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Terrifier 3 ||"My mother was the sweetest person"
NO SHE WASN'T?! She was a TERRIBLE person lmao||

wise epoch
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||Art giving a kid a giftwrapped bomb in the middle of a shopping mall|| is probably one of the most deeply upsetting deaths in this series despite being comparatively less brutal

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It comes and goes incredibly fast compared to a lot of the other deaths in this series, but the simple and quick brutality of it is what sticks out

cold sequoia
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Wake Up Dead Man ||if she says it to Jud then I think shes trying to throw off the scent by alluding to him killing a man. I don't think she meant the capital O Original Sin||

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Really liked it, Josh O'Connor was great

wise epoch
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Terrifier 3 ||I do think I like this movie more than 2 so far, because 2's entire goal was to push the envelope, and it did that, but I think it took too long
In this movie, there's a lot more downtime between kills, and the kills so far have taken a lot less time
So you're not jumping from one excessively stretched out kill to another every four minutes
There's enough time between them, and he takes a long time to start killing||

cold sequoia
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WUDM ||and visually it was very fun as well, I appreciated how unsubtle the lighting was in various scenes. The standout example of course being Juds phone call with Louise. I think the movie had a really good balance of character work and mystery||

wise epoch
wise epoch
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Finished Terrifier 3. Good movie, best of the three for sure

frail mulch
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Just watched WUDM with my fam (minus Mom, because she isn't really into murder things), that was...really good

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I did miss more of Blanc being silly. Dad hasn't seen either of the other films

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||we all had the, "wait is this Chimney Rock, North Carolina? No, somewhere in New York I guess" thought||

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WUDM, Agatha Christie ||I also wondered if it was going to be like an And Then There Were None situation where the suspects drop one by one||

topaz oyster
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It does occur to me that WUDM is a liiiiiiiiiiiitle unusual for a Benoit Blanc movie but also I think a lot closer to what I expected going into Knives Out from Rian Johnson

frail mulch
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WUDM, Benoit Blanc films ||yeah, I feel like in the other two the Woobie falsely accused is more of a passenger along for the ride with BB, but here it very much was around Father Jud and what church should/should not be||

thin ridge
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Just started Our Flag Means Death with my bsf and it's a good thing we got four episodes in because otherwise I don't know that I would have kept going 😅
I'm invested now though

frail mulch
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||like Benoit was really in the backseat, and even for the confession he gestures for Jud to do his job||

topaz oyster
# frail mulch WUDM, Benoit Blanc films ||yeah, I feel like in the other two the Woobie falsely...

||I think the Woobie in Glass Onion is one of the weak points of that movie, we never really get to know Andi and the film is ostensibly about her. Knives Out relies on Marta being a good nurse, and that's not a terribly hard sell. WUDM relies on Jud being a good priest and in 2025 being a good Catholic priest in particular is a hard sell, we need to see him good priesting throughout the film to really believe it I think||

placid river
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I also just watched WUDM! Liked it a lot!

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WUDM ||definitely a lot more serious than the first two, but I think it worked. I enjoyed these characters and liked getting a little more in-depth with Benoit himself as a character. I feel like the lawyer woman had a little less going on than the rest but the rest of the cast was good. The mystery was pretty solid imo, even if it was not the most unpredictable.||

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||we did all think Martha would be the killer from the moment she stepped on-screen but then we ran through like 10 other theories before the film ended.||

minor ledge
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my only problem with WUDM was ||the alrger cast beyond benoit and jud and whatshisface grifter that was the head of the church||

placid river
minor ledge
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unironically i think jeremy renners the actor i can take the least seriously somehow

gritty sierra
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WUMD ||i had a feeling it was martha - she was just TOO over the top... i knew she was putting it on. i didn't guess HOW involved, only that she was. that was satisfying||

placid river
minor isle
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My main issue is || They didn't name drop the movie. They had done that in both entries... ||

distant birch
west escarp
wet quest
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For me personally, I think having all of the demon stuff be completely hidden from everyone other than the three girls was a slight flaw in the movie. Bobby at the very least could have known what was going on

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I just don't think anything was added by having it be a secret

cold sequoia
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KDH ||it wasn't hidden, in the first 10 minutes there's a demon sitting in the crowd and someone compliments it's costume||

wet quest
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||That's what I mean though. I don't understand what is added to the story by everyone thinking the demons are just people in costumes or special effects||

gritty sierra
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KDH ||it does change the vibe of the story a LOT if the world around them knows they're fighting demons instead of knowing them primarily as pop stars. stories about fighting evil In Secret are a trope for a reason||

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||it's a VERY different type of story||

oak ivy
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||i think it plays into the idea of hiding your true self, and avoids a lot of the complicated questions around how people feel about demons||

cold sequoia
wet quest
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||But why wasn't Bobby allowed to know?||

oak ivy
thin ridge
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Our Flag Means Death 5 ||this show is gayyyyyyyyyyy.
Seriously though the mix of lightheartedness and really heavy topics is a super interesting choice and I think they've got a pretty good balance going.||

wet quest
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I keep forgetting that I want to watch that show

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Every time I finish a show I just forget that I want to watch that one next

hushed moss
dusk hound
#

Where’s the singing

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0/10 smh

wet quest
#

What's the over/under on Nolan shadow dropping The Illiad two weeks before?

dusk hound
#

Post credits scene where Achilles comes out of the shadows and talks to Odysseus about forming a team

wet quest
#

The guy who played Leonidas from 300 is with him as well

verbal lintel
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Can’t wait for Red Circle Red Arrow thumbnails saying ,”Aeneid sequel confirmed???”

west escarp
wet quest
lucid haven
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oh dam spidermans in this

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nice

wet quest
#

So is Punisher

west escarp
#

In the Christopher Nolan odyssey movie??? Wow!

acoustic pewter
cobalt onyx
wet quest
steep bramble
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uhhh this could also go in #academia but Mania For Subjugation Part 3 just released and I am soooo excited

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(Hardcore History on Alexander the Great btw)

steep bramble
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And we got some PJO casting! I need to find the Twitter post so it actually embeds properly.

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THIS IS SO GOOD

oak ivy
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Do they all have to touch their faces for their parts or

steep bramble
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hahaha

wet quest
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Yeah, that's related to The Mist iirc

keen flax
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I loved him in The Flash and I liked him a lot in Law and Order

distant birch
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I'm more interested in the movie now

placid river
distant birch
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Did you not read the damoeid? /j

cold sequoia
keen flax
#

Watched The Amazing Digital Circus today! I liked it!

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TADC 1 ||My favorite is Bubble, and I was kinda like "hm it's nice but where's the vibe?" And then the theme played while they had dinner zooming in on pomni and it was SO GOOD||

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||also I hope there's more bubble i love bubble||

buoyant scroll
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||Bubble is definitely top tier||

tight dove
#

im excited for you to see more of the show :)

keen flax
#

Me too! I've heard good things and it's just the right amount of Turn Your Brain Off and Pay Attention, just what I need to do my hair 🥰

keen flax
#

Man the episode endings are so good holy moly

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Also ep 2 is waaaay better paced than 1

muted solar
#

Damn y’all my gf and I are watching Bluevatar: Book 1 Air and it’s wild both discovering this came out 16 years ago and that the CGI is really showing its age quite a bit at times. We’ve come a fair bit further than I had thought since then

lucid haven
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It was right when 3d was getting super popular and forced

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There's some very cringe effects that exist just for 3d

dusk hound
#

Me when someone makes an off handed comment about the “missing Kryptonian city of Kandor” in Supergirl:

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thin ridge
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Our Flag Means Death 9 ||omg they de-bearded my blackbeard.
Also they are really taking their time with this romance.||

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||I say that and then they kiss LUL ||

thin ridge
#

10 ||WHY DID HE GO BACK?!?
I WANNA SLAP HIM SO BAD||

terse crystal
cold sequoia
muted solar
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My gf and I were talking about going to see the third movie tonight but I didn’t realize she hadn’t seen the first. And neither of us have seen the second.

Sooo… we’ll see about that. That’s like 7 hours of movie watching

keen flax
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Started watching Wakfu s4 and I do not remember a THING about this show omg

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I held off because I thought it was gonna be in French but it's not??? Everyone sounds the same and suddenly I was 16 again 😭

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I might have to rewatch s3 again but eh, I never do that 😂

buoyant scroll
keen flax
#

The 5 people who have paramount+ are popping off

topaz oyster
#

Classic

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Another straight to streaming L for Avatar

cobalt onyx
keen flax
#

This is the "the gaang are grown ups now" thing, right?

oak ivy
#

Avatar as a franchise is in such a weird spot

keen flax
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I don't blame you for not remembering because they're doing like 8 things at once 😭

oak ivy
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If i was in charge i would have on the board in big sharpie NO AANG STORIES

keen flax
#

The LA show, the seven havens thing, the adult gaang movie.... anything else??

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I do agree we need to move on from aang

topaz oyster
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Kiyoshi books are still popping off

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I think comics are still happening too

keen flax
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Mhm, I forgot about both of them 😭

topaz oyster
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(I am so Cyberpunk-pilled that I had to make sure I wasn't mixing up Kiyoshi and Kiroshi)

paper hull
#

Kyoshi?

topaz oyster
#

Is that how its spelled?

paper hull
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Yea

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Huh TIL she was voiced by Jennifer Hale

topaz oyster
#

I did know that

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Favorite cabbage merchant in Ba Sing Se etc etc etc

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She also voices Jun the bounty hunter

keen flax
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Does she?? Thats cool!

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I'd make a joke about rewarching it but.... no

topaz oyster
#

It holds up!

keen flax
#

Oh I know it does! Maybe I could be a good person and rewatch korra too... its been like 10 years since I've touched it

oak ivy
#

Isnt there a sequel series coming out at some point

keen flax
#

Yeah, seven havens!

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I am VERY hyped about it!

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If anything just to see how they're gonna deal with (korra) ||korra being the ONLY avatar 😂||

acoustic pewter
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My sister has rewatched all of AtLA and TLoK in the past month or so, and right after finishing TLoK, she immediately went back to start AtLA from the start again.

keen flax
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She's so real for that

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It was on repeat in my house as a kid

lone canyon
ivory night
#

No no you all are underestimating the amount of 50+ year olds who love their various NCIS

keen flax
#

-# im more of a csi Miami girl myself

ivory night
burnt shale
burnt shale
keen flax
#

Gneiss you are once again proving you have taste

vocal sandal
dusk hound
#

YOU will return in Avengers: Doomsday

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verbal lintel
forest wigeon
fair dirge
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I can't believe it's been 5 hours and I've only just found out about the trailer

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At least having it in HD is epic

dusk hound
#

“No where are you guys going?? Why’s your interest in the MCU dropping?? WAIT, HERES THE KEYS JINGLING, YOU MEMBER THIS CHARACTER?? JINGLE JANGLE, KEEP LOOKING AT THE KEYS”

turbid narwhal
#

it's still going to make ridiculous numbers

fair dirge
#

I must say I'm really interested in why RDJ and Chris Evans are coming back (besides the obvious reason of money).

oak ivy
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The mcu is best as a hype slop fest and im half they are returning to that

crystal brook
fair dirge
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The reputation of the Russo brothers gives me that hope

placid river
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Russos have a good track record with Steve specifically so I think his role could actually work

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RDJ as Doom though? Even if the movie turns out amazing I still won’t be on board with that

turbid narwhal
#

it's just mega regression when the main points of your movie are going to be Chris evans and RDJ yet again, it's a waste of other characters

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should've leaned into the bit and cast Chris Evans as a completely new character

dusk hound
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Sometimes I hate being a DC fan

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But atleast the future is looking good

muted solar
#

I wonder if they’re intentionally doing this so they can shut down avatar studios?

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That or they think this is the only way anyone will pay for paramount+

distant birch
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I'm glad dune 3 is coming out on the same day as doomsday so I have an excuse not to see doomsday

dusk hound
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Billions must watch Dune 3 instead of Doomsday

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Billions must watch Supergirl instead of Doomsday

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Let the executives know what real cinema looks like

distant birch
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Honestly I've been a defender of mcu phase 4&5 but everything we know about doomsday so far has really soured the mcu for me

dusk hound
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Casually ignoring the past 5 years of MCU content to just nostalgia bait is certainly a choice

distant birch
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I don't even mind some people returning but I wish they were focusing more of the marketing on, yknow, the characters this saga is supposedly about and less on nostalgia

civic trellis
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who is this saga supposed to be about, at this point?

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i will say, inasmuch as we rag on the way they're nostalgiabaiting with the old MCU stuff, at least with the old MCU, it was clear who the main characters were

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i feel like i've completely lost track of who the focus is now

distant birch
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I mean, that's why I'm disappointed that they aren't using the new characters here

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It's not 100% clear who the "main" new cast is, but I feel like this movie is a chance for them to tie it together and make it all a bit more coherent

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But it feels like, rather than trying to make it all work, they've just given up and gone back to the old stuff

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And we do have ~three important superteams set up by the recent movies, I do think you could easily center the movie/promo on them

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MCU ||the new avengers, the fantastic 4, and Sam's avengers that he was talking about forming||

thin ridge
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And don't forget [MCU] ||The Young Avengers that Ms. Marvel wanted to make.
I want more of them.||

acoustic pewter
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So, just screw phases 4 and 5 and pick up right after the end of Endgame? This is definitely a very odd choice for a first trailer.

topaz oyster
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Is it?

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Phases 4 and 5 haven't exactly been hits

crystal brook
distant birch
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I mean sure but thats not my problem

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It got leaked because it was marketing they were doing, it just wasnt up officially online

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Its not like someone leaked the Sam Wilson trailer and so they pivoted the marketing

topaz oyster
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Its been horrendous, top to bottom

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I get that some has been the whole Majors pivot, but that isn't a great excuse especially when you have Disney/Marvel money to throw at solving that problem

oak ivy
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The issue with 4 and 5 is that they dont really build into anything

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There is no obvious character to bring into the next avengers as an iconic piece

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Esp with spiderman getting reset

keen flax
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Meanwhile me, just happy that i liked BP 2: 🥴

topaz oyster
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I think a good part of the reality of this is they really lucked out with RDJ as Iron Man in particular and seem pretty clueless on how to replicate that success

dusk hound
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Meanwhile, me just excited for the future of the DCU:

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topaz oyster
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I think even with the issues they've had, they could have run with Strange or Shang Chi and they just... didn't do that

keen flax
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Shang chi would have been cool :/

oak ivy
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Strange 2 was (apparently) bad and shang chi does nothing to put him at the forefront of the mcu

topaz oyster
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Unfathomable to me that Shang Chi never got so much as a sequel

topaz oyster
oak ivy
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Shang chi is a story that happened. It has like one of the three good fight scenes in the mcu tho so ill give it that

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Good actor, good excuse for baller scenes. Not sure why they botched that

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Was the Marvels even watchable

keen flax
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No idea, I just assumed it was ass because everyone said it was 😭

topaz oyster
frail mulch
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There is a ||CATS musical sequence that I adore||, and Imani Vellani is so charming

topaz oyster
frail mulch
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It did feel like a bunch of plot elements taped together, though, Marvels

topaz oyster
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It directly conflicts with WandaVision in some important ways, which is part of why it was so bad, and Elizabeth Olson says she tried to raise the alarm but the movie people couldn't be bothered to read the WandaVision script and the WandaVision people weren't allowed to read the Strange 2 script

turbid narwhal
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Love and thunder and the ant man movie coming out within like 6 months of each other was a good warning sign of the quality to expect

novel bear
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it's weird because i feel like every time strange shows up in someone else's movie he generally steals the scene and is fun to watch

oak ivy
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Its been really rough ever since the movies got to the comic characters the comics cant do right

oak ivy
topaz oyster
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Wanda upstages Strange in his own movie in a way that has no upside

oak ivy
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His character really stagnated at benevolent asshat

topaz oyster
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A second character stealing the spotlight isn't something Marvel's exactly a stranger to, and sometimes it works, it was just such a disaster here

frail mulch
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I wish Raimi could've gotten weirder

topaz oyster
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By all accounts it was the movie Raimi wanted to make

dusk hound
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It hasn’t recovered since then

oak ivy
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Love and thunder is unwatchable

topaz oyster
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I was shocked by how bad Love and Thunder was after I liked Ragnarok so much

oak ivy
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Matt damon acting bad was acting better than the main cast

topaz oyster
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Its like it hit the worst possible combination of still being a Taika Waititi film while being different in every possible way from Ragnarok given that constraint

novel bear
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I feel like Taika Waititi got a bunch of hype after Ragnarok for being a genuinely creative director doing an MCU movie

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But I feel like at this point I'm not actually sure I like him as a director

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Wait why did I react same to kon-tiki

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I haven't seen love and thunder 💀

topaz oyster
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I have no strong feelings on him as a director except that I think he was absolutely the right man for Ragnarok and probably shouldn't have come back for a second bite at the apple

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That, and Marvel took absolutely the worst lessons from Ragnarok's success (to include making Thor comic relief and only comic relief)

molten jetty
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I am a bit worried for Doomsday but I don’t think the new trailer confirms definitively Cap is the MC, which would be bad.
So I’m cautiously optimistic. I’m excited, but… yeah.

novel bear
crystal brook
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I think the only taika waititi film ive seen is jojo rabbit

novel bear
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They nailed superhero action in a way I'm not sure I've seen done in any of the other movied

crystal brook
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Which i liked a lot

cobalt onyx
topaz oyster
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Well, you're right about that

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Love and Thunder decidedly did not have a punch line

topaz oyster
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Which itself was such an odd choice because they were already pretty cemented in a reputation for a kind of quippy humor even when it was out of place, and these movies made it work but doubling down on that franchise-wide should have been an obviously bad idea

cold sequoia
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I do think they picked Watiti because his style was similar to Gunn but they also kept the Russos doing their own thing which I think is the closest to an MCU house style after they dropped Whedon

placid river
distant birch
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People were leaking that teaser from the cinemas

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So marvel officially released it outside of the Avatar sessions

cold sequoia
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As is traditional

placid river
cold sequoia
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The evidence is they released it?

winged mountain
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When was the last time a teaser or trailer wasn’t put on YouTube?

distant birch
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I mean, they did officially release it. Whether it's because of the leaks or because they planned doing it now shrug

placid river
cold sequoia
distant birch
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It supposedly was going to show for a week before avatar, i don't think that week is over, so it seems like an early release, but it's possible this was always the plan

cold sequoia
winged mountain
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it was always going to be seen and discussed the instant it dropped

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It was discussed a day or two earlier, true, but I can’t imagine that shocked them to the foundation

cold sequoia
placid river
cold sequoia
winged mountain
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Officially releasing it once opening weekend is over was not surprising

placid river
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Also regarding the claim that they’re ignoring everything post-Endgame

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The majority of the confirmed cast are people who had major roles after Endgame, with several who are new to the MCU entirely

topaz oyster
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I do think the closest you get here to "Marvel's hand was forced" is maybe they wanted to release these trailers in a different order that made Cap feel more like icing on a better-established cake than the core of the movie

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And the order of operations does matter. But I think in this case its pretty small potatoes

distant birch
cold sequoia
topaz oyster
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Well then never mind even that

distant birch
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I wouldn't be as irked by the Cap trailer if a f4 or Thunderbolts or young avengers trailer was coming sometime

placid river
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The rumor I’m hearing now is that ||after Thor is X-Men, then F4 and Wakandans||

distant birch
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But really the promo is cap, Thor, RDJ

distant birch
placid river
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||but I guess if the F4 are getting a trailer that doesn’t make sense? Idk||

distant birch
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I suspect the Thunderbolts just aren't important enough to doomsday

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Honestly

topaz oyster
distant birch
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It was generally viewed as a good movie afaik but I'm not sure if it was a total box office success

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Similar to F4FS iirc

dusk hound
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Realistically, how much money do you guys think the DCU’s first JL movie will make, especially in this economy with superhero fatigue?

cold sequoia
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Its too far out to guess

distant birch
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I think that depends on a lot of stuff we can't know

topaz oyster
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I don't think superhero fatigue or market conditions have anything to do with it, tbh

distant birch
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Like, how far in is it? How established are the characters? How has the dcu been doing? Is it a big event?

topaz oyster
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I think WB's ownership will be a much more strongly governing factor

cold sequoia
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Meaning?

topaz oyster
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Otherwise, Gunn is going to do what he wants to / is allowed to do, and I don't think he's gonna look to The Market to make that decision

placid river
topaz oyster
cold sequoia
placid river
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Also Thunderbolts ||the PCS directly set up their role in Doomsday||

topaz oyster
dusk hound
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I don’t know if it’s dumb for me to say this but I have much more faith in DC’s future then Marvel’s future, really the only thing I’m looking forward to in the MCU is the Spider-Man stuff

cold sequoia
distant birch
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I am invested in what the dcu has going in a way I never was with marvel, but I am interested in seeing where the Thunderbolts and spider man go

topaz oyster
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I read "make" as "take" lmao

placid river
distant birch
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I'm also interested in the supernatural marvel stuff but it doesn't seem like we're touching that for ages

dusk hound
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I’m not a big X-Men fan but I’m interested to see what they do with them

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Especially with the Thunderbolts director doing them

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I have faith in that

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My wifey Rogue better be in that movie

distant birch
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I think watching Superman made me realise im maybe just not as much of a marvel fan as I thought I was... 😅

topaz oyster
oak ivy
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So, uh, what is doomsday going to be about?

distant birch
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Doom, presumably

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And crossovers

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Maybe the multiverse

placid river
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Likely also ||destruction of the multiverse via incursions||

stoic falcon
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Honestly, not sure if I'm going to bother with it tbh

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there have been some good marvel movies like thunderbolts

minor ledge
stoic falcon
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and more decent ones like shang chi and ff

distant birch
topaz oyster
minor ledge
stoic falcon
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but I feel like there's not enough of an ongoing arc for me to care enough

distant birch
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If I watch doomsday it'll probably be out of... wanting to see if they can pull anything coherent together. Im not super interested in it

topaz oyster
oak ivy
minor ledge
stoic falcon
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I'm just content to mostly be done with marvel unless something is particular good

minor ledge
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that arent nostalgai bait

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i should clarify

distant birch
stoic falcon
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endgame wrapped things up in a way that's satisfactory for me

placid river
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Sam is the obvious choice to lead the MCU

minor ledge
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Shang chi would be cool though but he isnt white so disney wont go with that

oak ivy
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Shang chi and thunderbolts are individual movies tbh

topaz oyster
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The only thing in Marvel's future I care remotely about is Daredevil season 2

oak ivy
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Season 5?

distant birch
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Ok genuine question: have any phase 4/5 projects actually gotten sequels?

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I can't think of any but I'm probably forgetting a lot

placid river
distant birch
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I suppose wandavision and TFAWS did

oak ivy
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Have any been good enough to get a sequel

stoic falcon
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I mean, technically loki got a second season if you want to count that

winged mountain
stoic falcon
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(assuming phase 3 ended with endgame, idr the exact cutoff)

minor ledge
distant birch
distant birch
minor ledge
topaz oyster
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BNW is also a sequel to a pre-phase 4 project

distant birch
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Fair

oak ivy
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I wonder how much deadpool 3 making a morbillion dollars motivated the returns

topaz oyster
minor ledge
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Wasnt far from home phase 4

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and so was no way home

distant birch
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Was FFH? I thought that was 3

oak ivy
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Cap 4?

placid river
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FFH was technically Phase 3

dusk hound
oak ivy
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Totally forgot Harrison ford was in the MCU

minor ledge
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wasnt far from home after endgame

winged mountain
placid river
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It was but in terms of production timelines and the like it’s still Phase 3

minor ledge
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idk dont really remember i really dont like the MCU spiderman other than homecoming

winged mountain
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Funny, I never watched homecoming but I saw 2 and 3

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I also never watched the Garfield Spider-Man movies

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Or Tobey 3 for that matter

oak ivy
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Spiderman 2 is really bad

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Maybe that is my mcu hot take

minor ledge
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NWH is so bad once you remove the nostalgia

minor ledge
oak ivy
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NWH does have an actual theme which is rare for a marvel movie

oak ivy
minor ledge
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Raimi spiderman 2 is so so good i love it

winged mountain
placid river
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I have a couple of problems with NWH but overall I think it did a good job of making the cameos actually fit the plot

minor ledge
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i really enjoyed NWH in theaters but when i rewatched it when i got home i didnt like it

oak ivy
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NWH is probably a good movie, i am never rewatching it to find out

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My guess is the pacing is terrible

minor ledge
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top 10 theater experience though

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movie was bad thougj

dusk hound
stoic falcon
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I personally thought NWH was extremely good myself

dusk hound
distant birch
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I remember liking the ways they connected some of the returning characters to the plot/themes/arcs

minor ledge
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NWH + Morbius ||them using it to send michael keaton to hell (Sonyverse) was very funny though||

placid river
minor ledge
distant birch
minor ledge
distant birch
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Who was the wrestler guy they wanted to make a movie of?

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El meurto maybe?

dusk hound
topaz oyster
minor ledge
distant birch
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Hey tbf to sony seeing kraven in an empty cinema was one of the best theatre experiences I've had

minor ledge
distant birch
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Yes

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It sure did exist and had actors in it

placid river
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The extent to which it even qualifies as a “Kraven movie” is debatable

distant birch
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I hate that I've forgotten some of the lines

minor ledge
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i didnt know lmao i thought madame web flopped so hard they didnt do any other sonyverse stuff

distant birch
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Kraven ||I was out of the cinema at this point but apparently "I prefer kraven. With a K" is an actual line||

placid river
dusk hound
placid river
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El Muerto though, that was the peak of cinema

distant birch
topaz oyster
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"Good" sure is a word

distant birch
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Kraven feels like the superhero Minecraft movie

minor ledge
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i havent actually watched any of the sony verse tbh

small quarry
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Kraven is white black panther

minor ledge
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not even venom because i absolutely despise venom as a character

dusk hound
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Morbius is a movie

stoic falcon
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My favorite sonyverse scene is this one

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such peak

novel bear
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madam web was a great watch

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would highly recommend

distant birch
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Venom 3 had a lot of... scenes

topaz oyster
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I have a very hard time calling unintentionally comedic "good" regardless of circumstances

minor ledge
distant birch
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Unfortunately the rest of the cinema was taking venom 3 kind of seriously

small quarry
minor ledge
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oh

distant birch
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How is kraven at all like black panther aside from maybe the fighting style?