RSAhead & Treasure Hunter Winding Down - This Week In RuneScape

[faint spear]

Check it out here - https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/rsahead--treasure-hunter-winding-down---this-week-in-runescape

[white summit]

Exciting times ahead 🙂 Glad we have the clan noticeboard working again as well!

[hexed gate]

Just used up my last free daily key. Definitely feels a bit bittersweet.

[mint crown]

Sad that earlier Premier Keys are capped at 365. I feel a little scammed

[peak turtle]

Give us access to heartments store with oddments

And all other limited time currency stores

[mint crown]

Aaaand I only got 200 keys. For 1.25 Years of premier

[white summit]

I see minimum spec requirements were also updated. Although I don't use MacOS much, would be nice to see an RS3 client optimized for the new M-chip Macs 🙂

[spring moss]

Seems they forgot to give me my keys 🙁

[dusk pulsar]

Do you automatically get the keys?

[dusk pulsar]

That's what I'm feeling too.

[haughty briar]

Same here

[pliant junco]

when do i get the keys? got 0😂

[proper cypress]

If you renewed after November 12 you dnt get any

Scam

[spring moss]

Mine is from August

and I still got none

[dusk pulsar]

I renewed in June

[haughty briar]

I did renewed before nov and no keys

[pliant junco]

mine is renewed in july

[native heron]

Mine is from Oktober i didnt get the keys

[polar turret]

The applegaming wiki lists runescape 3 and oldschool runescape with ratings of Perfect on the Rosetta 2 compatibility list

[rough frigate]

Got no keys? Huh?

[spring moss]

I am guessing they didn't do it yet, nobody seems to have got them

[hollow prism]

People are getting them

[rough frigate]

5th comment seems to have them

[white summit]

Oh that's good to know! I've never tested it myself, but I'm sure it would be even speedier if it were translated directly to Metal (though that may be difficult to do).

[hollow prism]

It is just rolling out

[mint crown]

I got 200. Should be 365

[spring moss]

Did you reknew on the exact day of the announcement?

[vocal sparrow]

renemed in october, only got 200

[spring moss]

Almost nobody should get 365, would be really rare to have it reknew on the exact date

[wraith surge]

Didnt get a single key

My premier was in july

[hollow prism]

Be patient. They are rolling out

It will take time

[vocal sparrow]

is it in batches of 200 tho? i shouldve gotten around 270 but only got 200

[mint crown]

My premier goes to April 1 2027. That should be before the annoucement

[hollow prism]

It is going through their payment processing so it is slowly making sure fellers are getting the correct amount of keys.

[umbral sand]

Note: The update has only just dropped, but as there's only a week - I figure there's some urgency in this request (not a complaint) and I'm not after a discussion here.

Please could you further expand the options in the new oddments cosmetics store to include Yak track cosmetics. I'd rather spend all the oddments I've accumulated after 5.8 on cosmetics I've missed over the years than introduce additional GP into the game.

Thanks in advance!

[peak turtle]

Too late for this now

[polar turret]

I really doubt they can get that done in time

[peak turtle]

I was hoping the heartments store stock too

It too many people have already cashed in their oddments

[spring moss]

Did they decide not to remove the Prem Artifact or is that a next week removal? I still have mine

[polar turret]

yes that is on the 19th

[umbral sand]

I thought prem artefact was sticking around for now as part of the 'undecided' list. Shall double check the list.

[spring moss]

It was mentioned separately last week that they are removing it, much to the communities outrage

[hazy oxide]

no keys for those owed issued yet?

[faint spear]

seasonal Heartments/H'oddments will likely be addressed around their events

[hollow prism]

Read up in the chat. They are rolling out slowly

[umbral sand]

Now you mention I remember the premier portal being part of that discussion. Thanks for the reminder.

[wild trench]

i see im curious what about those who bought primieer after november 12th? but before january 12?

also when game be back up? 😃

[dusk pulsar]

im playing now

[wild trench]

Ouhhh YAY 😃

[livid mesa]

those people won't get any bonus TH keys, since the website & shop mentioned the removal of keys then

[cursive sphinx]

havent gotten any keys and they took the ones i had today as well, i bought premiers way before they announced the removal

[jade vessel]

thats a bummer, will be ther any compensation? bought prem few days ago and now half the stuff in it is removed

[unique bough]

They are going to talk about longer term premier changes in coming weeks

[hot sedge]

why only 200 keys seems weird when over 1 year premier left

[cursive sphinx]

any news on why existing keys were removed today with the update?

[wild trench]

it did but did not mentin that you would get bonus keys as people before november 12 get 80 / 90$ in value but those who bought after word dont is very morally injust give those who after after november 12 something worth 80 to 90$ in value

[cursive sphinx]

and why some premier members werent given any keys even though they had purchased premiers before the announcement of removal of treasurehunter

[wild trench]

so i assumed i would get all of the keys one they are no longer daily

every one who bought before januaryt 12 should get them

[livid mesa]

it's not injust; the people getting bonus keys are getting them because, when they got premier club, they were not told you'd miss out on keys because of the TH removal
everyone who bought it after the announcement is made aware and not missing out on anything they didn't know about

[wild trench]

as it feels slimy and corpo

[wild trench]

i was not told i'd miss out on a bonus

[cursive sphinx]

problem is people who have premiers before the announcement have zero keys too

[dusk pulsar]

Which has, multiple times, been explained to be a rolling out sort of thing.

[livid mesa]

that's because of a slow rollout; th keys tie into systems that have a lot of checks so it takes a bit

[faint spear]

If you purchase after the annoucement of the removal of TH you would not be entitled to the additional keys.

[cursive sphinx]

as in rollout by account?

[wild trench]

i was like ogg no more keys after the 12th atleast i will get them as i paided full price for primer and it was not half off or anytthing as that is a lot of money in keyts 365 keys is like 90$ usd

[livid mesa]

the payment page listed the removal of TH keys, as did the membership page

the "bonus" is simply people getting what they're owed because they bought premier before the removal was announced

[faint spear]

There is an ongoing manual process to send out keys to players, everyone should have their keys by the end of today

[jade vessel]

ok but now is kinda hard to justify the prem price if theres nothing with it

[wild trench]

i i was like oh it's full price so i atleast get the keys after i am owe or else i it would be like 50$ for primer since they are gutting 80 to 90$ in value

but it wsa the same price

so i was like ohh i will get those keys

[cursive sphinx]

right, that makes sense, can you also confirm if existing keys were removed, would they also be returned?

[livid mesa]

it's still cheaper membership, there is no reason the price would go down

[whole plover]

Bless whoever is doing those manual credits.

[wild trench]

that dose not change the cutting of 80/90$ in keys that some people get and other dont

[cursive sphinx]

because I had keys this morning which I didn't use, I logged in earlier to find that I now have zero keys

[wild trench]

that dose not change the inherit issue

[whole plover]

One of my least favourite things to deal with in accounts. XD

[livid mesa]

As I told you multiple times, anyone buying premier club after the announcement knew what they were getting into; the shop listed the removal of keys when you added it to your cart

it's not on Jagex if you didn't read that and now regret the purchase

[hazy oxide]

you decided to purchase when you were told the keys wont be there, its on you. there was plenty of communications about it. move on.

[wild trench]

as it's the right thing to do give every one keys who bought from 12th janury and even up untill 19th

[wild trench]

again still dose not change the fact of missing 90$ in value that still exists and the expcaztion was off no more keys but primer is the same i must be gettingh all of them dumped to me on the 12th as that is 80 to 90% the cost of primer

in keys

[faint spear]

I will check with the team but that sounds like an oddity

[wild trench]

so im guessing for people after the 12th will get what ever replaces the keys?

say 80 to 90$ in the new bonus XP system?

[livid mesa]

no, the intention is to move away from MTX-based progression, not reinforce it

[hazy oxide]

noone said you would get keys after 12th Nov. you may have guess or assumed, but you were wrong

[wild trench]

so will the people who are getting unfairly cut out of 80 to 90$ in value will we get something?

[mint crown]

You bought it well knowing you dont get keys and now you are whining?

[wild trench]

actally no i did not

i assume no more keys as in i will get them asi paid for them

but i only learned when i read the full FAQ

that only people who bought before november 12 get the full value of what they paid for

[hazy oxide]

"assume" there is your mistake, why assume anything?, read the news, they posted about it multiple times

[mint crown]

No more keys means keys for you?

[livid mesa]

again - the shop listed the removal of TH keys
the membership page listed the removal of TH keys
you did not pay for them

this is 100% on you, blackwing

[polar turret]

You aren't losing anything because the keys were just extra, the cost of premier was the membership subscription, which you got a discount on.

[wild trench]

i do not care about keys

i care about the value

[faint spear]

I am sorry but unfortunately it was stated in our communications that players who purchased premier after the annoucement would not be eligible, if you would like to request a refund you can contact our support team for assistance

[wild trench]

again shifting the responablity

[wild trench]

this is no it was not

[livid mesa]

it is uo to the person making a purchase to read what they're buying, the responsibility is and always has been yours as a customer in that case

if I order chicken wings I won't assume I get 3 extra just cause someone else did 2 days ago

[hazy oxide]

your the only one whining about it, everyone else read the news and understood, you could have also asked Jagex before purchasing instead of 'assuming' like you admit.

[mint crown]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-forest-gump-are-you-stupid-or-something-gif-12176502

[unique bough]

I already stared they are going to look into the longer term premier stuff and talk about it in coming weeks. But thats now drowned well back message wise now when it was originally closely shown.

[wild trench]

it said additional keys will be provided untill the 12th

as in all you additional keys

so i assumed on the 12th i would get all of the other keys

[dusk pulsar]

the 1 additional per day you get for premier, you get that one each day

[hazy oxide]

he's the 1 whining when everyone else understands lol

see again, you 'assume"

[wild trench]

not assume

[livid mesa]

no, this is on you making the assumption about "all"

it does not say "all", do not claim it does

[wild trench]

how i understood the wording to the best of my rational neurdovergant mind

[plain egret]

Additional “DAILY” key

[wild trench]

alkso why art people fighting so hard aginst what would be morally right thing to do?

[hazy oxide]

who cares, you could have asked, long before now. instead of 'assuming' anything

[wild trench]

the morally righ tthingto do would be even what ever the sub text says

[livid mesa]

because you're claiming Jagex is bad for an assumption you wrongfully made

[mint crown]

You cant read I assume

[unique bough]

Because you're arguing as a fact, not as a moral

[wild trench]

give the person the value they are missing out on

[livid mesa]

again, you agreed you'd miss out on this

[plain egret]

Because the warning is right there and you decided to still purchase it

[wild trench]

as i said im neurodivergant

i interptid the world differntlyt

[hazy oxide]

and jagex has answered you here and yet you still whine.

[livid mesa]

that doesn't put the blame on Jagex

[mint crown]

You get keys till the 12th. Thats whats stated there. Nothing else

[cursive sphinx]

Thanks, please let me know, it is odd but I'm pretty certain that those keys disappeared as I didn't use TH at all today

[polar turret]

this is trolling

[wild trench]

you whining about being giving fair tratment

[hazy oxide]

and? so what, adapt

[wild trench]

that dose not justify inmoral unfair treatment

[livid mesa]

I'm neurodivergent too, it's not a blanket excuse you can apply to everything. Personal responsibility is still a thing

[hazy oxide]

thinking your special doesnt mean you get special treatment lol

[wild trench]

it's a spectrum you should know this

[mint crown]

Its not immoral if you cant read...

[livid mesa]

doesn't change what I said

[wild trench]

i have extreamly bad communication disability i dont understand text the way even others do

[hazy oxide]

well several people including a Jmod have explained it multiple times and you still go on

[wild trench]

yes it dose as part of my thing is how i understand that and i read that as you get all the keys at 12th ifyou buy

[whole plover]

Perhaps, before making a considerable purchase in future, you may consider seeking clarification from a responsible and trusted party.

[wild trench]

but dont get them daily

[polar turret]

Do you understand "apply for a refund"?

[wild trench]

i did i read it carefully considered it for around 2 hours

[whole plover]

Or you may approach Jagex's team with a refund request.

[wild trench]

and i understood it as you dont get daily keys after the 12th but get all ofthose keys you would of got daily in one big lump sum

[hazy oxide]

he's just trolling now, hes been told multiple times but still says the same thing like a broken record.

[wild trench]

that is literally how i understood it as i said im neurodivergant

not trolling that is how i understood that text

[unique bough]

As this is looping into off topic territory lets go ahead and drop this as all sides have been properly answered

[livid mesa]

This keeps going around in circles. You said what you needed to say, please drop it as Sudo asked

[wild trench]

but yes who do i talk to to get my keys? as i wish to have some help resolving this potato 😃

the mod person cvan i pm them? 😃

who was it mod azanna? 😃

[livid mesa]

No, you will not get your keys as we told you, drop it

The best we can do is direct you to the refund page: https://support.runescape.com/hc/en-gb/articles/205981571-Refunds

[wild trench]

ium curioous why so? i only wish for a partial refund of 50% to cover the lost value in my keys 😃

how i do that?

[livid mesa]

Follow the instructions on the page I linked

[plain egret]

I hope all of the oddment store cosmetics become available by other means 💔

[hazy oxide]

i thought we had another week of the oddments shop, oh well, cash is king it is then!

[livid mesa]

I won't ask again, drop it.

[wild trench]

in pure conecpt and morallty this is not fair

[livid mesa]

If you continue it you will be timed out

[wild trench]

ohh im confused what did i do wrong i truely dont understand im confused i dont understand

[unique bough]

They will more than likely look into alternatives in the future as with anything they've released at least

[polar turret]

I expect all the current oddment stuff to be up on the marketplace on the 19th

[livid mesa]

^

[mint crown]

You didnt lose anything. You got what you paid for.

[wild trench]

oh it is i did not even realize to me it was all unique forgive that is one aspect of my disability i dont have the ability to tell apart that stuff to me (perfect analogy) (for conversation the number 2 and 2 is a topic to me number 2 and 2 will look like number 4 and 10 so to me it ws not going in circles please forgive my potato communication disability etc 😃

forgive did not mean for that 😃

[rough frigate]

Hey, what's the status about people who renewed premier before the announcement and haven't gotten their lump sum keys yet?

[hazy oxide]

they are being rolled out today

[whole plover]

Manual credit, so it'll take a little.

[rough frigate]

Oh so it's a step by step thing, not all at once got it - thanks a lot!

[livid mesa]

thank you Azanna ❤️

[viscid cradle]

where is my option to exchange oddments to stars?!?!?

I was saving them to exchange to bxp

[livid mesa]

gone

[viscid cradle]

well, that's needs to be reverted

oddment removal is scheduled in a week, not a week early

[hollow prism]

it isn't going to be reverted

[viscid cradle]

no-no, I am not asking if it should reverted, I am saying it must be reverted

[mint crown]

Sure, thats easy. Buy Jagex

[hollow prism]

it isn't

[viscid cradle]

there wasn't any advanced announcement

[hazy oxide]

lol

[mint crown]

except... there was

[hollow prism]

last week

[livid mesa]

there was
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a=13/upcoming-treasure-hunter-changes---january-12th

[viscid cradle]

Pure and utter nonsense 🤦

[crisp depot]

I was also under the assumption I would be getting prem keys (I renewed on the 31st of Dec) - Had I been aware of not getting the lump sum keys I wouldn't have bought premier and instead bought a lesser time (6mo/3mo vs 1y of prem) and also some extra keys. I was staying up to recieve them so I could just be done with it and was chatting with a friend when they pointed out I shouldn't be getting any.

Good riddance with TH, but man the Oddement shop is really disappointing. I didn't buy any of them during the weekly rotation bc none of them are my fancy, but now that's all that's being offered. Seems a slap in the face to the people stocking up 100k+ oddements

Past that, Don't get me wrong, the capes are nice and appreciated for Jan. I'll take the good updates where I can get them. But it would have been such an easy, good PR move to take the survey results about cosmetics the other month and open the oddement shop with some of the more desirable cosmetics. But instead it's the same garbage that's been there for years

[mint crown]

And nothing else was stated... All cosmetics from the rotations

[viscid cradle]

funny thing that GP is listed under "consumables", while no consumables are supposed to be available

[polar turret]

said cosmetic shop will be open on the 19th, but obviously not for the currency that you accumulated in spades for free

[oblique minnow]

Hopefully we will learn what changes are coming to premier this week (besides what is being removed)

All hype is towards next Monday it seems. Let us hope it is a good one

[timber maple]

Why was the option to filter boss buffs removed? Now you've got one catrgory that arbitrarily cant be filtered.

Rather odd change just like removing goblin raids notifications.

[hasty haven]

Well there goes like 40% of my bank of purchased items with irl money even dragon trinkets despite being my fav item for fashionscape... I get the changes and I understand this isn't for everyone, but we are speaking about 1000's of euro's being spend and I get nothing re-imbursed for all that is being removed? - just a year to use it all up this is a joke.

Also being a loyal Premier Member as I supported this game for 10+ years.

Honestly, I do expect some kind of payback, this is rediculous, key removal sure, but there was no info on item removal, now half my bank will be cleaned almost from cosmetics, to lucky items, to protean items, dummies, etc like what...

[tall anvil]

I renewed my Premier membership on November 3rd

I was NOT TOLD this would happen when I renewed!!!

I DID NOT vote for this!!!

This is being done TOTALLY AGAINST my will!!!

Jagex has had 61 DAYS to prepare for this day, there is NO EXCUSE for not being ready!!!

Now I'm being told that they are GOING TO REMOVE ALL MY OTHER PREMIER BENEFITS WITHOUT WARNING!!!

... and I feel I'm not receiving JUST COMPENSATION for my 20 years of LOYALITY!!!

AND YOU WANT ME TO BE PATIENT????

[hollow prism]

@tall anvilchill

[tall anvil]

Chill WHAT???? Nothing I typed is wrong. THERE IS NO EXCUSE for any of this.

[hollow prism]

i didn't say what you wrote was problematic, but you need to calm down

[mental lotus]

Why is new wilderness boss teleport not patched with the update?

[polar turret]

This is info on item removal posted on november 3rd 2025
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/initial-faq-treasure-hunter-mtx-reductions--integrity-roadmap

[honest urchin]

Didnt realize that lamps and stars were being removed form the oddments store. I would've just used my oddments on those yesterday 🙄 I dont need cash and I already have mosto f these cosmetics

[hasty haven]

Yes, I read that aswell, but the list feels wrong... Not re-imbursing people would be theft...

[polar turret]

You were given over a year of prior notice

[hasty haven]

A year? Not really.

[honest urchin]

He's right, though. Many of us had our voices count for nothing in this.

Side note, I think he's being hyperbolic and sarcastic. But the point remains.

[polar turret]

Items will be removed January 2027, notice was given november 2025

[tall anvil]

YES!!! and they call it INTEGRITY????

[hasty haven]

Yes, but then again, most of these items were available to obtain with the "believes" of having them at your disposal whenever you want to use it.

[grand stag]

Anyone know what's going to happen to H'ordments and Heartments? I remember Jagex saying these shops would be reopened, but I must've missed any further details on when

[honest urchin]

Valentines and Halloween mostl iekly

likely*

[polar turret]

For the record there is a talk of a sort of reimbursement:

I have more items than I could reasonably use up in the grace period. What will you do for me?

We’re working through plans on how we could convert these items and we’ll have firmer updates to share next year. Based on player requests, we’re also considering a way to sink these items early – think a “Well of Integrity” – which may also help.

[grand stag]

Ah, you're thinking these will be retained until next seasons? Fair enough

[hasty haven]

^ that would deff help @polar turret but I do expect a 1:1 ratio of exp and being able to instant dump it myself then atleast...

Without gatekeeping of a timer etc

[honest urchin]

Y a know what Jagex really needs to do? Release a report next January that shows player gains and retention since this change. See if new players came and stayed and if the number of new memberships post-TH is enough to offset the loss from ending TH key sales.

[polar turret]

It would undoubtedly not be so

And they have implied that they don't expect it to be.

[hasty haven]

Most of these changes will often see a decrease, and rebuild in the course of years if anything.

Not within a year

[honest urchin]

Gonna be interesting to see how whicever company owns Jagex by that point eill react to the losses. Can't convince me that purposely losing money because the loudest mouths in the community voted to get rid of a source of cash is gonna fly in the long run

Also curious to see how many of those who voted even played RS3 at the time

[polar turret]

It seems you've not been keeping up with any of the communication regarding this. They expect a loss and expect to not make up for it for years, it's been pretty clearly communicated as a long-term investment into the game

[livid mesa]

it's not just the loudest mouths, it's the majority of the playerbase
there have been plenty of surveys about this with overwhelming amounts of responses

[hasty haven]

Removing keys and such will deff be healthier in the long term

However I do hope I can chuck the items as eiki stated with the QA reply from jagex

[delicate tangle]

thank goodness people have to work for their xp now it feels better already

[faint spear]

Current planning would be closer to their individual events, so Heartments around Valentines etc

[mint crown]

While I do believe getting rid of th is the best way... Using the term work for playing a game... Thats just wrong.

[hasty haven]

Can we please keep Dragon Trinkets as cosmetic items only without any use but wear option? 🙏🏼

[livid mesa]

huh, TIL dragon trinkets have a worn visual

[chrome shale]

It's a healthy and much needed change.

And yes, they do.

[grand stag]

Thank you! 🙂

[hasty haven]

Yes but they are on the list of being removed probably

[unique bough]

if anything removed had a visual, there's a chance they may look at what could be done about that in the future.

e.g. Lucky items. if feedback was given, for stuff like dragon trinket types as a cosmetic, then they'll more than likely have that noted to look into in the future

[delicate tangle]

do i only get a year of keys? I have member ship until Oct 2027

[honest urchin]

Well we know it wont bring many OSRS players to RS3. They have more reasons than TH to not play, as they have frequently and boisterously explained like a crossfitter in a bar. Can't imagine it would affect the number of brand new players very much. How many people came to the game and then just left because they saw TH? Probably not many. The change will probably be good for player retention to a point, but nothing life-changing.

[honest urchin]

That's for premier membership

[mint crown]

Keys are coming in waves. I already am at 400

[delicate tangle]

Yes it is

[hasty haven]

I for sure hope so hahaha

[honest urchin]

Premier members essentially got 365 extra keys as part of the package. What did you do, buy it twice?

[mint crown]

Yoiu could buy a 6 month and a 1 year

[honest urchin]

Ah

[delicate tangle]

Yes, I buy memebrship before it is up usually and hace accumulated it until 2027 I do not buy monthly time or anything

I only buy premier

[grave knot]

at least shouldve picked a good th theme, the current one is bad 😄

[unique bough]

the 365 stuff is mostly a clarification addition, it shouldn't normally ever exceed that amount. membership and premier benefit days can be separate

[mint crown]

Yeah, the promo is garbage

[delicate tangle]

so does anyone know if we only get 1 year worth of keys? I have bought premier multiple times in the year to keep my membership topped

[honest urchin]

I've only ever bought the year package or paid monthly. Which sucks because I should have that fancy 10 loyalty crown by now, but I forgot to change my pament card after switching banks :C

[honest urchin]

That's something you should send a support messaage for

[hasty haven]

Aww bummer, it sure is fancy I can tell you

[mint crown]

I already got a little more than a year.

[faint spear]

You are unlikely to go higher then this, the cap of 365 is intended but due to how the system is awarding keys in predetermined packs we are erring on the side of generours to keep the system flowing at the moment.

[delicate tangle]

yeah i recieved 400 as of now

[honest urchin]

Yeaaa, it's very sad. I've had membership since 2005 (i think), mostly uninterrupted

[hasty haven]

Yeah I recieved 10th year this year, I did broke membership few times back then as I needed a Wallie card and well I was depending on my parents for those hahaha

[honest urchin]

I convinced my dad to use his credit card to buy it and said he could just not give me $5 of my allowance 😂

[viscid cradle]

Please bring back oddments-to-consumables for this last week

[hasty haven]

Just a quick question, where can I convert my 100m double exp? Is Vic removed? I probably missed that part 😅

[leaden elk]

(Portable) Vic has been gone for quite some time.

[hasty haven]

Ah oh 😅

Well lets hope I can soon convert that too 😂

[earnest drum]

honestly im more confused why they basically lied about the oddements store. from everything i was reading it was supposed to be gold not oddements cost for the cosmetics

[fickle cedar]

Can a jmod include the full list of default changes in the patch notes? Unsure why it only included a few?

[unique bough]

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/upcoming-treasure-hunter-changes---january-12th

• Unspent oddments will be removed on the 19th, converted to 1 gold:oddment for non-irons. (Nothing for irons)
• Gold conversion method will be introduced (1:250 normal, 1:100 irons) for your oddments.
• All items in the current rotation schemes will be in it all at once
• Consumables (Stars/Lamps/etc removed)
• No New cosmetics added.

[viscid cradle]

That's a very odd of removing/disabling items. What's next disabling/removing proteans in a weird way or a reason months before their advertised scheduled removal?

and then just point to some obscure "update" ?

[unique bough]

each case will more than likely be a case-by-case ordeal. like how we can use proteans to get DXP tokens, they'll probably just remove them or give it as an alternative redemption use. just depends what

but you can't apply every focus for one case, to all others. so they have a catered focus for each of these things

they're listening to feedback, even if they may not do exactly as X group demands over Y. so they're doing rather well i'd personally say handling as many middle-grounds as they can

[viscid cradle]

Look. The changes were announced in advance with clear dates. You like it or not, but it was a clear and well defined message that TH and oddments will be removed on 19th. Expectation was that this functionality won't change until that very last date. Yes, you may add some other options (like removing limits) to make everyone happy, but this sneaky update just disregarded the advertised date.

[unique bough]

they're not adding comsumables back.

they stated very early on they had intentions to remove consumables where possible, from these things.

[viscid cradle]

waiting another week was too much to wait?

[unique bough]

they may not expliciutly list each and every source, but, they did state they're intending to remove them globally from sources

and you'll just have to accept that at this point.

[viscid cradle]

yes, and the date was Jan 19th, not 12

this just makes loose trust in Jagex in anything they state

[mental lotus]

Sudo here take this 🌻

[bold ermine]

What exactly was the sneaky part? Because i've known about everything that happened this update for months

As far as i'm aware atleast.

[viscid cradle]

Sneaky part is removing oddment's functionality/convertion as it always was - ability to swap it to stars, lamps, cores and etc. You could have just removed oddments today entirely and it would have same effect.

[unique bough]

lets not continue this loops, please

[umbral sand]

mod azanna said near the start of this page that they will likely address these currencies at the relevant time i.e. the corresponding date/period.

[hot sedge]

yeh and this is stupid btw they removed it without saying shit

[bold ermine]

I see. didn't know they did anything besides adding the cosmetics / gold conversion for the oddment shop

[storm basin]

Didnt get any keys, premier renewed in July

[unique bough]

they're going out in batches, through the day. in increments as well if needed. so you should have them all by end of day

worst case if it prolongs, it'll be some tomorrow to. but it's manually being triggered in batches

looks like it should be all today at least so far

[umbral sand]

TH has been in Runescape for years, the sheer scale of the operation for its removal and various items connected to it is insane.

They posted on the website on the 8th that this was the case and in order to make the transition easier - the major part of the update would happen on the 12th (this update) and 19th (full TH removal).
So they did forewarn us and the communication has all been there - clearly laid out - albeit there's a lot of information to share.
Is 4 days enough with the daily limits on consumables for some players - probably not. But it isn't a sneaky update.

I wasn't around when they announced the 12th of Nov cut-off, but when I go back and see that it was announced in a clear manner. I'm rational about it and accept it's just misfortune. I could easily have gone back and read up on what I had missed. They've done their part and can't be held accountable for our lack of effort to read carefully.

[storm basin]

Thankyou for your reply, i didnt know it was send out in waves. Spoke a few clanmembers which all got theirs so that confused me. Ill be more patient 😅

[indigo mesa]

The first posts about dates for removal (12th for disabling, 19th for outright removal) was outright posted back on November 12th, even.

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a-new-era-for-runescape-begins-january-19-2026

[viscid cradle]

No issues about not giving any more oddments. That's fine, this is part of the change and accept that. The issue is that it was stated in a sneaky I would no longer be able to consume/convert oddments the usual way from 12th. I want to use them before 19th, but unable to do so - stars, lamps, cores and other stuff has been removed today.

[unique bough]

again, lets not start that loop again.

you have been answered, so lets drop it.

[last olive]

Completely removed: Automatically trigger Regenerate
What the heck?! This is absolutely the most powerful option for new players to heal. It should 100% be in the game and on by default.

I know new players can still manually activate Regenerate but they will never realize it's a thing

[unkempt dust]

I think this is a mistake. It should be 'disabled by default', as it's still very much an existing setting. (Gameplay > Combat & Action Bar > Action Bar > Automatically trigger regenerate)

[livid mesa]

on by default unfortunately caused way more confusion than it's worth; the moment you get the adren-preserving infernal puzzle box people get confused about why Regenerate is no longer triggering

so by making it a conscious effort to turn on the auto-regen, they're at least made aware that that is how they're healing

[mint crown]

Not just the Puzzle box, with the Relic Power Persistent Rage it doesnt automatical go off either

[ripe gale]

my Premium accounts were auto renewed, but both after November 12th. Accept it is my own fault for not realising they would not valid for bulk keys and this is still not really clear. BUT now want to stop auto renewal next time.

[solemn canopy]

Free keys but zero th promo to use them cheers 🍻

[indigo mesa]

It is a promotion, its the promotion that was the very first one

Its just not very strong since TH has gotten powercrept

[storm gull]

Whats happening to credits people have in the portable trader store that cant be accessed?

[honest urchin]

I used all of mine before the last dxp live ended. I doubt they'l be re-opening the store

[rocky lava]

Really frustrating that I've been on auto-renewal since Premier began, and it renews every year in December, and that means I don't get any extra keys lol.

[drowsy hound]

My premier is set to auto renew and it is after the mid November cut off so I get none. Scummy Jagex. Scummy.

May just be my last renew. We will see. This plus the cape limit… Great way for them to treat the loyal players who have kept this rs3 version of the game alive.

[rocky lava]

I've sent in a request form to support. The news post, despite it reading like that's the case, is slightly vague, because I didn't have a lapsed membership between November 12 and January 12. So I am going off of that, and making a complaint.

[indigo mesa]

The cutoff announcement was on november 12th

Its not something they're saying now

[lucid yarrow]

hello idk but it seems something isnt right here if i bouth premier 6th november and got only 150 key ,i been only member 68days ,your webside says 365 Keys-68 is 297 keys so i dont know how you guys counted to give me only 150 key

[indigo mesa]

Its something that was broadcast everywhere they could back as the cutoff date was announced

[indigo mesa]

Read this message I forwarded

[rocky lava]

I don't think they're talking about the November 12 date for buying, they're in the same boat I am.

We were Premier members, and we had auto-renewals that fell inside that November 12 > January 12 timeframe.

Our Premier never lapsed, we should still be eligible.

[indigo mesa]

I'll go fetch the announcement back on november 12th

[rocky lava]

I read it, and read all of the announcements up to today's.

[indigo mesa]

If you purchase or renew Premier Membership on or after November 12th 2025, you only will receive Bonus Daily Keys as usual until January 12th. You will not receive an additional grant of keys for your remaining Premier Membership tenure.

• from announcement on November 12th

[rocky lava]

Yes, I can read

My husbands renews May 31, 2026. So he gets all those months of keys. Mine renewed December 7, I get nothing.

Good stuff

[indigo mesa]

Yes. His renewal is what the terms of the premier package was then, before any announcement of changes

Yours was after premier package was changed

[rocky lava]

Just because Jagex writes something in a newspost, doesn't make it correct, or fair, or right. We are allowed to challenge the fairness of what they are telling us we will receive for our money.

Terms of Premier package, that's actually pretty rich, given that they still haven't taken down the pages and notifications of Premier changes.. nor did they tell us about Artifact or vault changes until the other day.

[uneven mantle]

didnt they announce this would happen a decent bit ago?

[indigo mesa]

We are allowed to challenge the fairness of what they are telling us we will receive for our money.

You are. But on the key front, you were told you would not receive this.

They've changed the package year to year. They're not identical every time. New auras, new cosmetics etc

You get the premier club package as it is at the time of renewal

[rocky lava]

I am aware, I've paid for Premier since 2013.

I don't need schooling

[indigo mesa]

How is it not correct or fair or right then to get the keys the package said then

Premier club artefact or vault is a different convo but here it was in fact actually advertised and said

[rocky lava]

The package did not. Jagex's news post did.

[indigo mesa]

Actually the package did. Do you want internet archive?

[rocky lava]

The package pages have NEVER changed, until recently when they added a 'by the way keys are being removed on January 19'

[indigo mesa]

https://web.archive.org/web/20251118184709/https://rs.runescape.com/en-GB/membership

Here is archive from 18th of november, 6 days after announcement.

Oldest archive I can find

This is the text

This is what is advertised

[livid mesa]

^this was also reflected on the Store page when adding premier club to your cart, which listed the same warning

[uneven mantle]

thats actually neat. ty kobra

[indigo mesa]

Unless you have some counter evidence to this archived changed

[rocky lava]

I am on auto-renewal, so I'm not sure how I would see a cart.

[uneven mantle]

auto is on you

[unique bough]

the webpages were all changed around the time the announcement were made, pending some ISP caches. but was all within a 15-min span (including the support pages banners)

[uneven mantle]

ive had prem on release and ive always unsubscribed every single time

[indigo mesa]

Does this mean that premier package can never be changed then?

They announced this on every social media page, their own home page, hell there was even a popup ingame for this (and the vote)

[rocky lava]

I have no idea how you get that from what I said, I wasn't even responding to you. I was responding to Sudo, who mentioned seeing changes when adding to cart. [edited for correct name]

[uneven mantle]

HUH

not this hawk

[rocky lava]

Sorry, it was Sudo.

[indigo mesa]

Auto-renewal means that you're subbed to get next premier package at a certain date

They announce it everywhere and update all text

[unique bough]

this comment? was just a clarification to the 6 days timeframe, to specify when the removal messages were added to the various webpages, including the support articles.

[indigo mesa]

That gives room for cancelling that if you don't want the new premier package by december

By december this has been known for weeks

What more steps should jagex has done to inform here

[rocky lava]

I know what auto-renewal means, and I have never stated they can't update the terms of the premier package, or the items they give you, or anything of the sort.

I can't seem to follow this chat, it was Spooky Oranges. I'm on mobile and the chat is going by too fast.

[rocky lava]

Apologies, not you. 🥴 Spooky.

[indigo mesa]

I don't really think its much different between oh why don't they give keys to people who auto renewed in december. And those that auto renewed in january. Or in february, after TH is fully gone from the game.

All of these people would have people that last purchased this package before TH was going, and that would auto-renew into a new package if they don't cancel

And all those auto renewals would be after Jagex having changed packages and given time for people to cancel said auto-renewals

While publically stating on many platforms that yes this is how it will work and it you purchase or have renewal after this date (12th of november) there will be no bulk keys

I get being miffed at missing this

But its the same feeling I get if I miss a sale in a store for something I wanted to purchase. Oh well.

[rocky lava]

I'm not asking for any more 'informing', I was very aware of what changes were coming because I keep up with their news posts, and voted on TH removal and all of the things that came with that. I wasn't aware my renewal was in early December. Is that one on me? Absolutely, because I never cared to cancel Premier, so I just let it auto-renew every year and didn't pay attention to when it renewed.

Do I get your points? Sure. Do I understand terms can change and packages can change? Of course, I'm an adult who has a lot of contracts and pays a lot of bills.

I didn't miss anything - I was aware of the language. I read the exact post you shared above when it came out. I voted on TH, I was around for all of it.

I am still allowed to be upset at how this has been handled, and the Artifact and Vault is a wholly separate conversation. I do think, and whether you agree or not is fine with me, they could have been much more specific and call out auto-renewals. For that you'd have to manually cancel and then pay again at an earlier date to meet the criteria here.

What is frustrating is that the only reason they used the November 12 date, is because they didn't want to give out tons of free daily keys to people who panic-bought Premier after the announcement. I do think concessions for those who would have had automatic renewal already set up on November 12 should have been made. That is easy for them to identify. This is what I am frustrated about.

[indigo mesa]

Thats fair

[rocky lava]

People like me and others, weren't trying to get in at the last second to get a whole year of keys or anything. We just were doing our normal thing.

[indigo mesa]

Its just been a lot of messages today from people insisting they paid for said extra keys, some that werent even auto-renewal

If I came of as hostile I didn't mean to

well a lot and a lot

[rocky lava]

I can understand that, since Christmas break ended I think Jagex have put their foot in it a bit, and there's a lot of these kinds of conversations happening.

[indigo mesa]

some

[rocky lava]

Same, apologies if I came across as hostile. Wasn't intended.

[indigo mesa]

Personally while I'm glad that artifact/vault goes, I was surprised at how it was handled. I thought if they were doing it that would have been part of 12th of nov announcement

I do wonder if its because of aura part of integrity roadmap being way sooner than we think

[quiet moat]

    Automatically trigger Regenerate```
WHY
i loved that option :(

[rocky lava]

It does feel kind of shady they didn't mention it before the vote. I am not saying that would have changed people's minds but... eh it's shady.

[livid mesa]

fwiw, likely just put in the wrong category in the newspost ^^

it's still there, just no longer auto-active for new chars

[quiet moat]

oh thank goodness

[rocky lava]

Hopefully.

[hollow prism]

it is also buggy if you have the puzzle box

[quiet moat]

now if they'd just make the adren-preserving part of puzzle box toggleable

so i can finally add it to toolbelt

[indigo mesa]

Dailyscape is too and both vault + artefact is very much on the daily/weekly/monthlyscape spectrum

So I get why I just am surprised the way it was done

[rocky lava]

But we just got annualscape 😄

[indigo mesa]

Yeah to unpopularity 😆

wym 4 capes

[rocky lava]

8 years lol... and we will get more skills in that time

[livid mesa]

yep, artefact further ties into aurascape which we know Jagex isn't a big fan of

[indigo mesa]

Seem like they're reconsidering it based on recent faq

[livid mesa]

I may've quoted the wrong post by Mod Ryan but the gist is there

[indigo mesa]

I'm decently sure that whatever ends up happening to auras

[rocky lava]

I think a lot of people fear Jagex's track record with removing things before they have a proper replacement, and that this will be removed with no replacement in sight for years. Character rework anyone?

[indigo mesa]

the prem artefact effect would be completely useless

since they've put aura refreshes on will be deleted list

not may be, will be

[unique bough]

the avatar rework is literally still in development. 🙃

[indigo mesa]

Whatever is the future of aura it doesn't seem to have refreshes

[indigo mesa]

It got off shelved

[unique bough]

they were tackling the technical issues with them, while it was shelved

[rocky lava]

It is now, but has been talked about for eons

[unique bough]

if anything, i was one of the reasons it got shelved.

there was a few things on the tech side that needed to be fixed, which ended up actually being a problem with it, which had to be resolved first.

but it was on the shelf as a "this isn't out #1 priority, so we can't guarentee a timeline" ordeal, not that it was was scrapped.

bank bidders vs avatar rework was a good example of scrapped content, vs on-hold.

[dusky granite]

anyone know any way to get oddments right now?

[livid mesa]

no way to get any anymore

besides converting your th key prizes

[dusky granite]

dammit there has to be a way

[unique bough]

you were already told this
#general message

[dusky granite]

sure. however i asked again as someone could have found a method you dont know.

[spice thorn]

Any news on the keys? They took 3 daily keys and still haven't received the remaining ones. auto renewal in may.

[thick swallow]

oddment shop should be left in game (only for cosmetics), so people who has 100's of thousands of them could spend them over the year.. i'm a player that never used oddment for any consumables, and lately all they offered me on cosmetics tab - were things that i already have.. with only reset once per week 🙁

[indigo mesa]

Not beyond

Though who knows how many are still over at Jagex HQ at this hour

[spice thorn]

Thanks, day is not over yet. I can live with receiving them tommorow

[dusky parcel]

Are the Premier keys meant to only go to Premier members who used real money on their membership before the cutoff date, or those who paid with bonds as well?

[tepid jewel]

both

[unique bough]

just before nov 12th, 2026 before the announcement,

[dusky parcel]

Okay, I did read about it being a slow rollout so I guess I just have to be more patient. Thanks!

[shrewd matrix]

No relief for people who had their premier on auto renewal and their renewal date fell after the cutoff? Seems like we fall in a gray zone.

[indigo mesa]

Autorenewals fall into the "purchases or renewal after cutoff" from the original november announcement

[shrewd matrix]

Yeah, but my point is that I'm not making a purchase afterward the announcement to try to exploit the up front key award, I'm leaving my auto renewal the way it has been for years, and I'm getting hosed because it happens to fall after the date.

[indigo mesa]

What point would be the time renewals should count as a pre-time purchase?

What about those that have renewal date on january 20th?

[shrewd matrix]

The initial date of the premier subscription

[indigo mesa]

So you're saying TH should remain around as a system until november 12th 2026?

or well, anyone that has renewal date until november 12th 2026

should get keys

[shrewd matrix]

No, I'm saying that people who fall into the gray zone I outlined should get the up front keys.

[indigo mesa]

Where does the gray zone end

[shrewd matrix]

new purchases after Nov 12, 2025.

[indigo mesa]

How far after the announcement of said keys, should we go "no you count as a purchase after the announced cutoff date" for renewals

How far in the future after the cutoff date should an auto-renewal count as not being a new purchase

Auto-renewals in november? Auto-renewals in december? Auto-renewals in january?

[shrewd matrix]

The end of TH.

This is not at all a slippery slope

[indigo mesa]

So why does auto-renewal at 20th vs 19th matter january matter

Everyone in november, december and january that had auto-renewal resub for premier did so after it was announced they would not get bulk keys

If you had auto-renewal in december, that would be a month after this has been informed on every platform by Jagex and whats in the premier package has been updated

What matters is that Jagex gives a date after which there is no bulk keys and informs people about it. That doesn't have to align with the date TH ceases to exist

This they did. There isn't really a grey zone here for those who had auto-renewals after nov 12th

[shrewd matrix]

And yet the price on the premier remained the same. I wanted to keep playing the game, and there was no information provided on what alternative compensation Jagex would provide (either a partial refund for the value of keys not received in the premier price, or some other future addition), or adjustments to premier membership to make up for the change. I was stuck in this gray zone where it was wait and see

[indigo mesa]

The price of premier averages out to 40% cheaper compared to paying monthly membership

[unique bough]

they stated that they will talk about longer term changes for premier membership in the coming weeks, on the post
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/upcoming-treasure-hunter-changes---january-12th

[indigo mesa]

Its strange to me to go "alternative compensation". Why would you get refund for keys in a package you've bought that didn't have said keys.

[shrewd matrix]

I have seen the promises for adjustment info. I'd have liked to see that info sooner at the same time as the TH key stuff. That would make that easier to accept.

[unique bough]

then that's not "no information" it's just a "wait for more info"

so for now, things have been answered from what it looks like, so lets not loop this over

[indigo mesa]

I mean I for sure hope we don't add any more gameplay benefit to premier

[unique bough]

for now anything will be speculation until jagex says otherwise, just that people will need to wait and have patience for that info

[shrewd matrix]

My "no information" statement was meant for the time of the original announcement

Not today/recently

[unique bough]

at this point, it still counts. there's been plenty of notice for everything, and this discussion has looped enough and was going nowhere,

[storm gull]

But then they shouldn’t have removed the bond version one without warning

[honest urchin]

Oh, right, I forgot that you could use a bond for that. I agree

[cursive sphinx]

Any news on when those of us who actually are owed keys can expect to have the full number allocated to us？I've still only been reimbursed for 28 keys when my membership ends in July - which doesn't seem to be the correct number.

[dusk pulsar]

Wondering the same thing.

[indigo mesa]

Given the hour, might be that it will be picked up tomorrow instead

[crisp anchor]

The only annoyance I have is the fact that many brought premier in December when it was a december only promo, and autorenew has been in december since. However, im also of the mind I often forget TH is there and daily keys go forgotten at times so probably for the best or id forget i have extras and not use them within the week 😂

[cursive peak]

Question, about 2 going on 3 days tmo I used the sofi offer in earn keys section. support said expect keys in three days. So tmo will be day three. Will I get my 850 th keys from the earn keys offer tmo?

[drowsy hound]

Never said it was just said now. Just said it is crummy

[drowsy hound]

Like leagues wait for more info to see what the rewards looked like and it took waaaaay too long for that to be released visually….

[drowsy hound]

Sorry reply meant for this

[fervent ridge]

Combat Mode Icon still listed in the Advanced Options for Edit Layout Mode, and the location still exists in ui presets. Still can't make it visible, but the ghost remains

[jade prawn]

Not sure if I missed something or not- is there plans to open the oddoments store for halloween and valentines day? I have heartments and hoddoments left from previous years as well!

[indigo mesa]

#1460229135598354463 message

[jade prawn]

Greatly appreciate that, thanks Kobra!

[oblique minnow]

Do I agree with how they did the roll out of the extra keys? No. Am I missing out on getting them? Heck no... The promo for this last week sucks and for once I am glad I don't need to worry about it.

[thick swallow]

please add more yak or other event items to cosmetics.. (never spent a single oddment on consumables).. nothing to spent on with poor rotations..

[polar turret]

Really doubts that's going to happen, even if they did have the time, since they're going to update the marketplace with a bunch of cosmetics for direct purchase on the 19th

[sage epoch]

why arbitrarily a November 12th cutoff, wont that just make people between then and 19th of January angry?

my premier just happened to line up Dec 1st but its no big deal to me, but I don't think we will hear the end of it from others

[sterile carbon]

Mine was renewed like the 15th Nov. I just laugh tbh but maybe if I wasn't 200m all I'd be less amused.

[hasty palm]

this was when the initial announcement was made and people were also informed that purchases afterwards would be subject to different terms

[sage epoch]

wouldn't the average person expect a price change if that were the case?

[hasty palm]

maybe, but premier is the cheapest membership deal regardless

it could come with nothing extra and still be the best option

at current prices

[sage epoch]

I think the issue is that it would seem more like a scummy business practice to them

like on one hand jagex keeps 2 months of keys from going out? Versus charging the same and suddenly changing terms for something that many might not even be aware of since it is an annual purchase

I think the term is "Buyer beware"

[hasty palm]

yeah i think there is some duty on the part of the player to stay informed regarding changes like this

can't just bury your head in the ground

[sage epoch]

never underestimate the ability for people to bury their heads in the ground xD

[sterile carbon]

I think re keys there was enough notice TH was going. So yup shouldn't be such a shock.
The premier token and the vault is another issue. That came out of left field. I think ppl have a right to be pissed. Now maybe, and that's a big maybe, all will be clear in a week. However that's 2 weeks too late.

[woeful peak]

I'm just jumping in here trying to make sense of all this cooperate greed masked by mass confusion and obvious non-transparency of Jagex from the beginning of the mock survey they had no intention of honoring the fake results from which was obviously rigged for their own profit margins. anyways so much has been stripped from premiere with little to no concession a bunh of keys ok so 200 but what are you offering might as well be squeal of fortune again nothing but medium lamps low stars really jagex? can we show any less integrity ???

[woeful peak]

the tokens are being snatched as well Bad form Jagex !!!

[woeful peak]

with all due respect that's bullocks. Jagex has been well know to talk out of both sides of their mouths many times whenever it increasses profit ! they don't care about us just their own greed -the nonsense they are trying to have some integrity is a crock of crap as well the only way one would havetheir heads buried in the ground is if one actually believed their lies IMO !

[hasty palm]

I just don't personally think its very fair to complain at this point in time on the grounds of having not heard anything about the changes coming next week over the past two months

[woeful peak]

ok I have tbf been up in arms about this whole fiasco since the start for one , two they just keep adding on to add insult to injury keeping lik tidbits of stuff from us till the very end ! they need to be stopped !

[hasty palm]

if you're referring to the artefact removal, i do agree that should have been properly announced on nov 12th just like everything else, one could probably have suspected it would be removed but that's not the same

[woeful peak]

what about the preire tokens sinced they are cosmetic and not p2win as ppl are preaching ? to take these or even death touch darts as it was suggested i think is crap as well since dtd already have mass restrictions that have been placed on them and can only be "bought" with in game money and is coded into D&d merchant stock -imo thia is ingame content .removing tha would be a violation of integrity they preach the are trying to produce . also if ur going to remove it atleast grant it till the end of the premire contract for that year -we dont get cheated that way and they can figure out twhat to do with it next year if they still want to remove it -or replace it

[hasty palm]

i'm not aware of premier tokens being removed, and DTDs were included in the nov 12th announcement

[leaden elk]

I don't recall premier tokens being removed as well.

[sterile carbon]

Premier artefact and premier vault as far as I know.

But on a separate note ... are we still to get the basic keys leading up to Jan 19th? My alt got none today, haven't been on main to check. So confused

[bold ermine]

Nope. as mentioned in the newspost

[woeful peak]

how's DTD a MXT transaction when they are only able to be received through the merchant ???😠

[hasty palm]

its not just mtx items being removed, although i personally see DTDs as one, but even if you don't its pretty obvious that a free boss instakill item no matter what restrictions are put upon it is not something that really feels like it brings alot of integrity to the game

[glass ivy]

Premier Members with an active tenure beyond January 12th - and who had purchased Premier before November 12th - will be awarded Bonus Keys from Premier (excluding Daily Keys earned at login) for each day of their remaining Premier Membership tenure up to a cap of 365 Keys.

Just a question for this, why is it only people before November 12th? is this for November 12th up until December 31st 2025? (might sound dumb but I wasn't 100% sure lol)

[hasty palm]

@glass ivy

[bold ermine]

The main way to obtain them may not be through MTX anymore ( even though they've been in atleast a few TH promos in the past ) but just insta killing a boss isn't that great for game health/integrity or whatever in the first place.

[sterile carbon]

Ok, ty

[glass ivy]

Ahh sorry thank you, I tried searching in case it had been asked but I must have missed that one lol 🙂

[cyan parcel]

they couldnt give these keys lets say last week when they were more usefull. now they give em with nothing special on th

[polar turret]

why would they want to give th a good sendoff

[leaden elk]

I thought getting 150M in gp from oddments was a good sendoff already, lol.

[cursive peak]

Still waiting on my rev earn keys offer to come in…. I did the sofi deal under earn keys on like saterday. Was supposed to get 850 keys and still nothing 🙁

[polar turret]

the offers were always spotty on actually rewarding keys in the first place

[cursive peak]

For sure. The chewy deal got me rich lol about 6b for 27bucks lmao. Won 5 festive Santa hats Christmas Day and lots more

So I’m hoping they come in I want to top off a few hated stats

Chewy earn keys offer came in instantly

I’m hoping this grace period 12-19 is exactly for this. Like to give time for offers to come in and also premium members to get there keys

[wispy violet]

is there any update on this, its a bit shitty that theres no update and people are getting mroe keys than they should and others have literally still got none.

[drowsy hound]

This tbh

Premier artifact was insanely good for the 1hr Porter daily. And the cosmetic tokens? Bah… poor choices to take those away. For me it’s not the xp, it’s the other stuff

[indigo mesa]

Cosmetic tokens aren't being taken away from premier

[livid mesa]

people keep referring to the cosmetic tokens, where did that even come from?

[indigo mesa]

I have no idea Jagex hasn't stated that once

[bold ermine]

People have a hard time letting us know about their sources when asked 🙁

[indigo mesa]

I think some things have become a game of telephone in the conversation

[bold ermine]

Probably yea

[leaden elk]

Just wait a couple days and premier itself is gone.

[drowsy hound]

I stand corrected. Jumped on a comment and ran with it.

Either way the artifact being gone just for the 1hr porter is 🙁

[uneven mantle]

Ive seen the prem token ask in other places too. No idea why its being asked

[polar turret]

my source of runescape news is a random guy in a discord server

[uneven mantle]

LOL

[drowsy hound]

lol! Yours too eh?

[cursive peak]

Give me my 850 keys from rev offer pl0x

[fresh aspen]

I cant wait to see roadmap for 2026

Daily challenges system will that stop giving out free items n stuff from 19 jan? Anyone know?

[thick halo]

This is the only thing I could find referencing continuing Daily Challenges as they are today:

Are systems like Daily Challenges being reworked?

Other than the removal of Treasure Hunter keys, Daily Challenges with XP benefits will continue to be available when these changes take place.

We will be looking at Daily Challenges as part of our Dailyscape Integrity Roadmap work, and as we mentioned above, you will play a part in shaping our future direction for their role in the game - if any.

(from https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/initial-faq-treasure-hunter-mtx-reductions--integrity-roadmap)

[fresh aspen]

Many thanks!

[wispy violet]

laughable, keep my keys at this point. incompetence yet again

4 accounts im owed premier shit on

[open harbor]

I've been bond retaining myself so I didn't have premier but I'm seeing a pattern with people with premier on auto renew losing keys even though it was November. It just happened ti be after the 12th. Since as far as I've seen the disclaimer was only on the website. (Could be wrong on that) So there was no way for them to know.

Don't incredibly care however. TH is gone soon and I couldn't be happier. I spent my "unfair complaints" on getting a free internet upgrade.

[azure shale]

https://i.imgur.com/KnsOv5M.mp4

[bold ermine]

the barrel never dissapoints

[leaden elk]

If it rotates some more, it no longer clips through the fence, so that problem is finally solved.

[azure shale]

Unlisted Setting Changes

• New “XP” subcategory added to “Skills & XP”
  • Moved “Gain XP from lamp warning” to this subcategory (previously "Interfaces->Inventory").
• Removed “Precise adrenaline value” setting. (Now always enabled)
• Removed “Targeting mode” setting.
• Removed "Slayer counter (legacy mode)" setting.
• The "Familiar combat mode" “Default” option was removed.
  • The default option is now "Attack Same Target".
• "Guidance system hints" removed a reference to the Burthorpe tutorial.

The following settings were renamed:

• "Guthix Cache" to "Guthixian Cache"
• "Sinkholes" to "Daemonheim Sinkholes"
• "Skip boat cutscenes" to "Skip travel cutscenes"
• "Flash Events" to "Timed Events"

[sudden current]

and when are we getting vic to use up any bxp? he was removed from bonds store a few weeks back.. whats the go then

[bold ermine]

Vic retired and is never coming back

[alpine zodiac]

for this!

[tawdry path]

So... Still don't have my keys and tomorrow is the last day before the weekend.

[indigo mesa]

Was your purchase/refresh of your current premiership from before november 12th or after

If before, you should get bulk keys.

If after, premier club was changed on nov 12th and every package sold after do not come with bulk keys.

[finite yacht]

Just kinda feels rude for those of us on auto-renewal who had no meaningful control of our refresh date to be shorted 300+ keys (if we care at all)

[rocky trench]

My auto renewal was on the 16th of November, so for 4 days missed out. Oh well, that is life!! What pains me more is the premier artifact, but again, oh well!! Both my premier accounts will be taking a rest from RS3, having more fun these days in Dragonwilds LOL.

[sterile carbon]

I sorta get this view but at what date do they stop at.
The cynic in me goes I'm sure they did the maths and worked out the best date. I'm sure the majority or premiers members would be in the mid Nov, Dec, Jan.

Would be interesting to know actually, hmm

[finite yacht]

I think they basically decided the vote had passed and went 'aight, guess we should stop advertising that as a feature of Premier ASAP'

Which is fine...

but frankly anyone who buys premier before Jan 19th should get the keys (calculated as if they had bought PM on November 12th), as anyone who bought before November 12th is getting them... what's the difference, except for the date?

Lets imagine most people didn't know or care... until they find out that the date mattered.

for instance, I can estimate that I'm missing out on 1.8 mil direct exp by not getting 300+ keys.

Which is 'fine' cuz I'm already maxed and hate TH (despite many of my 120s being acquired through its spam exp rewards).

But I can't imagine anyone in a similar situation thinks that's fair and some may be more than lightly miffed.

I'm more annoyed at myself for not using up the keys I had hoarded on the last week of the christmas promotion, for a chance at the latest aura hat.... figured there was a strong likelihood of a repeat of the 'choose your promotion' thing hitting the scene again, so we could burn em up 'in style'.

No matter, just bad-taste gambling.

[unique bough]

I mean, similar is said elsewhere like when windows 7 was given an end of life support for updates, but people who still buy devices with it and install it then gripe they no longer get updates or are supported.

Players were given that notice they will not get it in full, and regardless of auto renewals, it would be agreed back then if they did so, they understand it changed. They still got stuff to that point.

Its not like they waited until jan12 to drop the news on how the key distribution changes worked, and players had plenty notice to get refund requests of that change if they didn't like it and got a renewal done if not cancelled.

[sterile carbon]

I agree, If it helps I burned through my oddments for Christmas promotion .... no luck on TH or with paper so you prob didn't miss out on anything but Christmas food and recycled Xmas tokens.

[sterile carbon]

Above reply to Rakushael

[finite yacht]

Respectfully, newsposts are not an adequate means of letting players know that the terms of their auto-renewing subscription are changing. Not everyone reads them. They are optional material; not a binding part of the membership equation.

I assumed I was 'in before the cutoff' as despite reading every news post, either I never saw the Nov 12th cutoff date, or I assumed my renewal was before then.

In either case, my membership does not hinge on these keys (frankly I don't play enough to retain my membership anyway, but Heists has been a large enough positive to keep my interest).

But I can't fathom how an arbitrary hard-and-fast cutoff date was applied with the original premier club system being introduced December 20th of 2012.

They've basically burned All of their most long-term premier members, if they signed up after that date, and constantly renewed.

And while I think we can all agree TH has to go, the sad truth is that anyone who has survived through this period of RS3 has grudgingly used TH for daily keys and all the exp/bxp that entails

[unique bough]

It was updated on every instance of the subscription within minutes of it being public.

Every page, every support article, every transcript.

Similar to ToS updates, just because you don't frequently visit them, doesn't make changes invalid.

Legality-wise, they can change anything but the price without notice. So they give players more notice than required.

As thats whats agreed upon

[finite yacht]

Right. But they have the ability to send messages to our email. To our inbox. To our accounts upon login.

This didn't have to be a surprise.

[unique bough]

They did send emails on the 12th, had login banners, and an ingame message broadcast.

There was also ads done, various social posts, and more

• Ads that change is happening (Banners and Videos)
• Videos on video-based socials (Youtube/tiktoks/etc)
• Articles on news (External and Official websites)
• Banners in-game (Lobby banners)
• Popups in-game (Like when you earn double keys and news)
• Various Social media posts (Discord/Twitter/Reddit/Facebook/Instagram/etc)
• Word of mouth (Players talking on socials)
• In-game login broadcasts (The text that changes were happening)
• Emails

and more

[finite yacht]

Right, but sending out messages on the day the things were cutoff is not synonymous with informed consent

also their phrasing is not in accordance with what has happened:

"reasure Hunter Keys will no longer be sold as of January 12 2026.

One this day, Premier Members with an active tenure beyond this date - and who purchased before November 12th - will be awarded any Bonus Keys from Premier (excluding Daily Keys earned at login) for each day of their remaining Membership tenure. All Keys will need to be used by January 19 2026, before the full removal of Treasure Hunter."

[sterile carbon]

Honestly think Jx review of TH went extremely well with surveys. The decision to remove TH excellent.
The Yes vote was a farce. Clear Communication since has been less than ideal.
One step forward and several back imo but I'm still in hope that the 19th will make it all cleared, however no way am I holding my breath!

[finite yacht]

I have purchased premier before november 12th.

[unique bough]

It is, they were informed. If they choose to not read it at that point, that's user opt out of the information.

You can only go so far to stay uninformed on it

[finite yacht]

It rolls over again a week later. That is not a fresh purchase; that is a renewal.

According to their newspost, I and others like me should be receiving these keys.

[unique bough]

Renewals are new purchases, always has been. You just don't always keep the same agreements.

[bold ermine]

Nothing about the yes vote was a farce 🤷‍♂️

[finite yacht]

That does not invalidate my existing tenure as being purchased before november 12th.

This news post leaves a perfectly valid expectation of existing premier members "with an active tenure predating November 12th" would be receiving these keys.

[unique bough]

A 1 year renewable tenure repeats the 1 year duration purchase at the same increments.

So if your current tenure renewed at say, november 20th. That years tenture starts on the 20th.

[finite yacht]

That's a nice way of interpretting that, but that's not how tenure is typically defined.

'tenure' doesn't flicker between semester cycles for a teacher of 20+ years; you don't 'lose tenure' over summer holidays.

[unique bough]

Tenures are a set timeframe and condition you agree upon.

In this case, a 1 year timeframe, with auto renewal capabilities.

[finite yacht]

“tenure” normally refers to continuous membership status, not a single prepaid billing period."

The newspost is ambiguous, at best, and they've not clarified in an adequate fashion.

[sterile carbon]

It was a farce, now dont get me wrong, I am not a TH fan. I agreed and voted Yes. However on reflection ... If it was a yes vote to remove TH, that would have been okay. But it wasn't, it's been taken as an integrity vote. It's become a how long is a piece of string vote. It is open ended to whatever Jx wants it to encompass into it.

[finite yacht]

Agreed. TH needed to go, but the 'vote' was a bit of showmanship, not a democratic system.

[hexed gate]

It was more of an official petition than a poll. The fact that Jagex said 100k votes would guarantee removal suggests the number of no's did not matter.

[sterile carbon]

Agree poll, showmanship same same.

Ment nothing, conclusion already made.

[unique bough]

They did more than enough surveys to confirm they're going to remove it, the 100k thing reverifies it, and gave more chance to view more later.

An abstain with high enough people who thought no, would never pass the 100k threshold.

So realistically it was going to pass with those who wanted it gone enough

[livid mesa]

Exactly. Players indicated their support for the removal of TH through the surveys & experiments done beforehand:

65% of players felt positive or neutral about TH removal, with 35% feeling negative.
54% of players expressed a desire to retain some form of progression-supporting MTX options
If Treasure Hunter was removed, 54% of players were more likely to recommend RuneScape, 20% had no change in likelihood to recommend it, and 25% were less likely to recommend

(...)
76% felt the changes show RuneScape is headed in a positive direction
79% did not feel that the MTX Experiment changes made the game more of a grind
Only 26% of players felt the game was less fair without access to Treasure Hunter

[unique bough]

As if the 100k didn't pass, they'd have to relook at player expectations and desires.

So if players didn't want it to be gone, abstain and no had the same goal. Don't vote yes

There's not much need to grab an explicit no counter in a reconfirmation poll, as players wanted it gone by previous surveys. Now confirm that.

[finite yacht]

**Would like official Jagex clarification on the following: **

"Treasure Hunter Keys will no longer be sold as of January 12 2026."

"One this day, Premier Members with an active tenure beyond this date - and who purchased before November 12th - will be awarded any Bonus Keys from Premier (excluding Daily Keys earned at login) for each day of their remaining Membership tenure. All Keys will need to be used by January 19 2026, before the full removal of Treasure Hunter."

**“Tenure” normally refers to continuous membership status, not a single prepaid billing period. **

It was my interpretation of the original newspost that because I was already a premier member by November 12th, and because I would still be a premier member at the time of January 19th, that these remaining keys would be credited.

That my renewal date happens to be after November 12th is, to my mind, immaterial. Most of your Premier club members will have an auto-renewal date after November 12th, as Jagex released Premier membership December of 2012.

At best, the post is harmfully ambigious. At worst, Jagex is not fulfilling the assurances made in the above newspost (and similar).

**I would ask that members with premier membership before November 12th 2025 who have since renewed receive keys for the time remaining up to the date of November 12th 2026. **

[leaden elk]

The way I see it is that:

• You had an active premier bought before November 12th that lapsed after November 12th, but ended before January 12th.
  • Your premier renewed at that end date.
• Because your active premier ended before 12 January, you would've gotten all keys from it.
• Because your new premier started after 12 november, you are not eligible for the keys from that premier.

[finite yacht]

But that is not the language the original newspost used. They used the word 'Tenure', which does not 'lapse' between semesters for school teachers. It is used to describe the net length from the commencement of a membership/position/otherwise until its end. "He has a ten-year tenure" is appropriate. Never 'He has renewed his tenure 10 times'.

You can restyle it however you like, the language of the original news-post stands at odds with how this was handled.

[leaden elk]

If it's auto-renewal with no end, wouldn't a tenure be indefinite?

[finite yacht]

until your bank-account declines the renewal, yes?

Until a teacher retires, yes? The end is undefined until it is over; a tenure is typically formatted as an ongoing thing.

[leaden elk]

I mean, we can go all technical on it, but that would imply you have an indefinite amount of days for your tenure, so you would expect an indefinite amount of keys?

[finite yacht]

I can see where you're coming from; with the appreciation that tenure was used twice in this news post, let's attempt to take the fairest interpretation of it, and suppose that unless a person has prepaid 5 years in advance, their auto-renewal for 2027 is not yet ensured, ergo keys would not be provided for future renewals. (Whereas renewals already in place as of today's date are now reliably maintaining tenure, regardless of whether they were paid for on November 11th or November 13th).

Meanwhile, if someone had pre-paid for several years of membership (not I), then yes, it would stand to reason that when they paid, they expected keys as part of the terms of their payment, and at some form of substitute, as stylized in the newspost, would be appropriate.

I believe Jagex does not have their membership payment system set up in a way whereby that early payment is even possible, so that branch of inquiry is likely moot.

[ruby turret]

I voted to remove treasure hunter but am here to complain about not receiving my treasure hunter keys 🧠 🔑

[polar turret]

Odd to me that people actually try to argue that Jagex not giving you advance notice of, and thus opportunity to take advantage of, getting hundreds of keys in one go, is somehow a violation or unfair

[dusky zenith]

I hate to be the guy who moans about this. but I've still not gotten my keys, and as far as I can tell I should be getting them (my Premier renews in July), are they still working the queue?

[livid mesa]

Go ahead and try to contact the live chats, and tell them when your last renewal was, with other info they ask and they'll see what they can do.

[dusky zenith]

TIL Jagex has live chat 🤣 I'll give it a go thanks

[hexed gate]

I thought it was AI though?

[hollow prism]

live chat rolled out

[hexed gate]

That's good to know. I imagine it will be very useful.

[hollow prism]

i have heard good things so far

[sage epoch]

This is what I was worried about with jagex switching up to buyer beware

whole thing can be said to be done for insider trading purposes even if they had no such intent

[polar turret]

lmfao

[hexed ermine]

they let oddments get spent but what about the event ones?

[atomic bolt]

THey said they’d approach those closer to those respective holidays

[empty prairie]

Is there a real list of what is actually going to happen on Monday the 19th? also, WHY remove the premier artifact? it is part of my subscription, not a micro transaction.

[polar turret]

• Removal of all treasure hunter keys
• Removal of all oddments
• Removal of premier artifact
• Removal of premier vault
• Update and revamp to the marketplace to have a new pricing structure and many new entries

The premier artifact was removed because it gave you advantages for purchasing a certain package of membership.

[bold ermine]

The whole list is in the the news posts from this week 🤷‍♂️

[vague laurel]

So... I am curious...

I get that JAGEX wants to change things, but so far, they've gutted the perks for the premier subscribers like myself. Is anything going to be introduced as an alternative? Or, is JAGEX just going to rip out everything and expect players to pay more for their membership as of 2026?

[uneven mantle]

A roadmap is monday if I recall correctly. Im hoping there is info on that when it happens

[vague laurel]

You and me both... if they're going to ignore those who fund their dev ops, I will cancel and switch to another game.

[bold ermine]

Beyond any normal price increases like inflation thigns i doubt you'll end up paying more for your membership

[unique bough]

They already mentioned previously as well that longer term changes for premier membership will be announced in coming weeks

What this entails, nobody knows, and it all speculation. So players are free to cancel if they desire, but they're not being left in the dark, and are being communicated with

[rugged mortar]

Once they started this whole shit show last year I quit the game. 21 years in the game, but I'm done. Spent over $15k over the years just for them to tell me I don't matter.

[hasty palm]

hopefully you can find new ways to enjoy the game that doesn't involve dumping thousands of dollars into it

if a game necessitates that to be enjoyable it probably isn't a good game

[cursive sphinx]

I thankfully renewed my premier membership BEFORE the announcement and wasn't on a rolling membership. However I can understand the frustration communicated by numerous members of the community within this thread.

In my opinion the crux of the issue isn't just about whether notice was given or whether the contents of that notice was clear, whether the language was open to misinterpretation. I think as players who devote a lot of time and in some cases money to a game that has grown with them over many years, it is important that they feel they are heard and valued.

Implementation of the wind down of TH and associated benefits could have been improved upon, such as extra care & consideration for players who were on a rolling premier subscription - an inbox message making them aware their next subscription payment would not make them eligible for keys and other premier perks that are being discontinued would have made sense.

I think also some of the arbitrary decisions involving what would and wouldn't be removed as part of the push for removing pay-to-win elements within the game could have been put to a player poll, rather than being forced upon the community. However hindsight is 20/20 and I can only hope that Jagex have taken a more considered approach this time around, and that we don’t get a repeat of history.

The attraction of the game for me has always been its open nature – that you could play however you wanted. I think it is important that we keep this in mind and are respectful of other player’s decisions regarding their playstyle and that we are conscious of this wherever possible when implementing sweeping changes to the game.

[hasty palm]

there has certainly been a few stumblings in terms of communication during this whole ordeal, i suspect not all the details were finalised on nov 12th and that's why this late announcement of the artefact happened, obviously not ideal, but when you're working fast to get the players what they've said in many surveys that they want, sometimes you end up being in a situation where you're laying the tracks directly infront of the train

[vague laurel]

I hope they follow through on that. Although my existing account is more recent, I have played since RS was created, but right now, it feels that JAGEX doesn't care at all about those who pay the Premier subscription fee.

Also... the "poll" to remove Treasure Hunter was actually a petition. It was pitched as a way for the community to have their say, but it was in fact, a one-side data collection that came across as dressed up PR nonsense.

Right now, as a Premier subscriber, perks and advantages have been ripped out and there is nothing in the pipeline it seems. So why bother paying for it?

JAGEX really dropped the ball here, as it is Premier subscribers like myself who help to maintain cashflow for the business which then funds your dev ops, but hey... I clearly don't matter it seems.

[vague laurel]

Same! I started playing RS when it was first launched and returned to the game again in 2020, but now.. I just feel like I am not valued at all so I'll see if I can stop the rolling renewal. So far... there isn't an option, which er... is kinda illegal!

[polar turret]

just contact customer support for a refund

I've cancelled membership countless times so I'm sure you've figured it out in the last 2 hours

[steel charm]

Dunno why we're karen'ing out here + premier players aren't the only people paying jagex's bills 💀 it's literally in the manage subscriptions section of your account management where it should be (to unsubscribe)

[wispy oxide]

When I first started playing this game, it had a single founding principle that set it apart from others: Play some content free for ever, pay for membership and everything is open to you. All content is yours if you can earn it.

That degraded in 2012 with of Squeal of Fortune (now Treasure Hunter), worsened with the introduction of Solomon's General Store later that year (at first only cosmetic, but functional boosts such as auras started creeping in the next year) and Premier Club in 2013, offering several in-game benefits.

In my opinion, Treasure Hunter was the single most toxic thing to the game's founding principles that it had. I'm glad it's gone, in fact it's the only reason I'm back. Solomon and Premier need addressing as well, though, to put the game back on a reputable level. I think Premier Membership can justify the a discount on the price (as with any company who gives better rates for being paid well in advance). Premier cosmetics don't affect the core function of the game. Once Solomon's Store is sorted out, the extra loyalty points won't either. A lot of the remaining stuff though (Premier Artefact, Premier Vault, VIP worlds, free boss instances, monthly drops, extra bank space) arguably give in-game advantages, and frankly I think it's generous that only the Artefact and Vault are going.

[polar turret]

Not to mention they're getting a discount lol

[steel charm]

Yep, which is the primary point of premier, not the other things

On top of that, we get the roadmap revealed tomorrow. Nobody is going to keel over from having to wait one more day

[last olive]

To be fair a free boss instance a day is at most a million if you’re doing Vorago or something which is 6+ million per kill. Not a huge deal.

[bold ermine]

Off all the things i really don't see how the vip world gives an advantage to anyone. It's just as bad as all the other worlds

[wispy oxide]

Nowadays, it doesn't really help too much. Often most worlds have barely triple-digit players. But back in the day when VIP worlds were introduced before OSRS existed and before RuneScape had started haemorrhaging players, most servers were well-populated and VIP worlds were a convenient way to get less competition for resources. Additionally, this was long before quality of life improvements like the smithing rework, where you had to fight for Runite rock spawns and wait ages for each to refresh. It let Premier Club members slightly out-pace competition with access to only non-Premier worlds.

[rugged mortar]

I have excess money, not time. I didn't see it as a necessity, just an option that fit my lifestyle. I also felt liek you and the other mods didn't give 2 shits about mine or anyone else opinion that supported MTX.

[acoustic basin]

Thats because most people are openly against mtx and everything it has done to the game.
The game was never meant to have ways to skip playing it.
And now that those ways of skipping the game are being removed, the people that got lazy and complacent are complaining that they cant be lazy and complacent anymore.
If the game no longer meets your time constraints, you dont have to play it.
Simple as that.

[steel charm]

It's also not other peoples' problem people don't manage their time better. OSRS players say the same shit about not having a lot of time, yet they still manage do their grinds without lamps/stars/proteans/dummies

Which makes it even less of an argument for rs3, given hourly exp rates on here aren't in the stone age. You also don't NEED to be maxed/comp'd etc to play and/or enjoy the game, let alone do those in a day/week/month

[acoustic basin]

If you dont have enough time to enjoy the game. Then maby the game isint for you. There are other games that dont take nearly as long to get to the "fun" part.
RS is an Mmorpg. A type of game known for being grindy. Thats part of the apeal. Working for that power.
Yes. I know, people nowadays need to work more. I get it. But damaging the game for a quick boost at the cost of its integrity isnt the way to solve the issue.

[quiet moat]

so it goes 😔

[sleek dove]

Bye treasure hunter!!!!! (You won't be missed)

[last olive]

ooooh shoooot free runemetrics let's gooooo

[leaden elk]

Free in general or free for members? If it’s the latter, it would still be a paid feature.

[last olive]

free for members sadly

[indigo mesa]

Holy shit what a day

[last olive]

time to place a buy order for 200000 clockwork