#Upcoming Treasure Hunter Changes - January 12th

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wild trellis
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even then, it's rarely more than the actual participants in the race

harsh plank
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I prefer the HD Graphics over OSRS ngl

wild trellis
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I speak as someone who held a rank 1 last year 😂 promise you nobody gives a fuck#

spiral dirge
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open-source the texture/model pipeline so HDOS can be backported to RS

thick beacon
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I have no idea what my rank is

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It is probably moved up since I got 200m necro

harsh plank
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Bring back mobilising armies

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As compensation

thick beacon
balmy summit
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Yw

thick beacon
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As compensation punishment

tepid bison
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5k games of mobilising armies for trim

harsh plank
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Hahaha

frank umbra
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I mean Conquest quickchats still are available

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sometimes I just drop them in world 84 or at a WFE and see how people react

harsh plank
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No, but I would love the old Castle Wars Decorative Armour, I wish they bring that back, as cosmetic overrides without requirements, that would be my wish this year

hexed nymph
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we're almost at 8 years without a quickchat option for the orlando smith hat

flint copper
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I don’t care what gets removed, I care about being informed what will get removed in the future BEFORE I buy premiere, not after I buy it

spiral dirge
hexed nymph
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top 1k when

thick beacon
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gotta wait for another 171 fellers to become inactive

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crazy how far my rank has crept though

frank umbra
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petition the Jmods to ban everyone above you

spiral dirge
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my overall is 3,333

hexed nymph
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im only a few inactives from 2222 :myman:

thick beacon
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i am almost recovered from doing that 200m

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i will be ready for the next skill

hexed nymph
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im using amascut to pump up my gp reserves for the next skill

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release racing is expensive

cyan harness
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They are still going to sell bxp for money, no? So why would 1 hour of 10% exp by a problem?

hearty yew
bold moth
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isn't removing the artifact after charging for new memberships going to get them sued or at least MASS chargebacked because they legit lied about what would be gotten with the premier membership?

frank umbra
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You did get the artifact, just not for very long. I’m not a lawyer so I couldn’t tell you exactly what was going on but the TOS probably covers it.

quartz trellis
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Jagex did mention other "longer-term" premier changes so whether it's additional perks to compensate what's being taken away remains to be seen, but it's a wait & see for now

frank juniper
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As far as suing Jagex, all I can say is talk to a lawyer. I honestly don't know.
What I find ironic is https://rs.runescape.com/membership still shows the vault and artefact without any mention of losing them. But mentions extra daily key is going away.

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Of course, I'm the USA and Jagex is in the UK, so that just makes the legal stuff harder. I mean we drive on the Right Side of the Road and they drive on the Left Side of the Road, so things are backwards and strange, but once you realize the US is always strange it makes sense.

spiral dirge
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boss instance one is somewhat misleading too

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and the the VIP world one still says "worlds" even though there's only one IIRC

plush escarp
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Definitely a big scam to suddenly remove the artefact that was a major reason to buy premier

queen estuary
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And also the most problematic part of premier existing

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Frankly even with none of the benefits, premier is good enough as an offer for the discount it provides if you're playing regularly

frank juniper
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Well... Premier costs more then my regular membership...

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But I'm grandfathered in at $5 per month

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I also found out one of my classmates is a grandmother... So I feel old...

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Grandmother at 45... Sigh...

carmine canopy
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After they had a big jump in the premier cost a couple of years ago, I stuck with it because there was still value to be had with what we were getting. Now they've kept the price as it is and removing nearly every additional benefit, I've decided to cancel.

I'm not against the removal of the keys btw, I think it will be interesting to see how it changes things, I just expected something to replace them as part of the premier membership. Some bonus xp stuff maybe? Not entirely sure what I had hoped for... It's almost like they've left premier as an after thought with all the hype they wanted to achieve on the key removal.

spiral dirge
timber wyvern
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I'm completely a-ok if premier has literally no benefits whatsoever

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that's unlikely to be the case though

glacial fog
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Did they say when the extra keys are being awarded for premier?

spiral dirge
latent plinth
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So TH will be removed the 19th, but you're already starting on the 12th. That doesn't make sense. 19th = 19th.

And also removing the Premier Vault? There's no TH involved in that. You're removing all sorts of Premier perks and benefits without a direct replacement, so why would I buy another Premier membership?

compact atlas
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The Artefact and the Vault are still on there as of right now. They also have the keys but it includes a date for the end of TH. Guess they need to change it before someone thinks they are going to get the whole 12 months with them

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karmic rover
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I think the problem with the spelling is that British English is slightly inconsistent with the use of Artefact (compare to Artifice and Artificial), and with the US spelling Artifact both being highly prevalent in scientific and fictional media sourced from the US, and the greater consistency with the spelling of related words, it's very easy for correct spelling in the UK to get confused.

feral totem
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Definitely going to chime in with my opinion on this but what y'all doing by taking away the premier artefact is ridiculous and way too much. If you're already going to be keeping some form of way to directly purchase BXP without the gacha mechanic of TH, then there's no reason to do anything to the artefact. It fits in with the current ethos even. This feels almost petty. It was never discussed or proposed to the community in the way of a VOTE like OSRS does with all of it's votes requiring a certain threshold to pass. It's understandable that TH would leave the game by a landslide, but if you're going to take away premier benefits like the aura reset, there seems like little reason to me to continue to purchase premier membership. You can argue that it's cheaper, sure, but if you already don't play consistently then it's not really cheaper so much as it is convenient in that you don't have to worry about a membership lapse.

I understand as well to an extent that the idea is ultimately to remove auras and hopefully shift their buffs into their associated skills as either items or level benefits, but if that isn't happening immediately with the removal of everything on the 19th, then why do it? It feels highly irresponsible, in light of how player centric your approach to removing TH was. This feels tactless by comparison and done without any extra thought or regard for the player base.

I can't say that OSRS is definitively better than RS3 because I believe both games are similar but ultimately different, but at the very least, the mods for OSRS seem to have more tact when making major game changes by polling everything first. Yes, TH removal passed by a landslide, but if this were OSRS there would have been a more thorough and well thought out poll to allow the changes to more accurately reflect the concerns of the players. I guarantee this will cause some people at least to discontinue premium or even quit altogether. Time will tell how well this is ultimately handled, but I, as well as many others in this thread seem to have out doubts on those abilities.

wild trellis
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not convinced OSRS would poll this given their policy of not polling integrity changes

warm lake
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I support it as a premier member, though I do understand why people are annoyed.

rough marlin
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filed a refund request, prob won't lead to anything but always worth a shot

toxic parrot
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its cheaper then buying for the full year already.

queen estuary
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To be precise, based on UK pricing at the moment...
You pay £77.88 for 12 months via Premier
or £119.88 for 12 months via monthly sub

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Which is slightly over 4 months free

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(Obviously regional pricing may vary on that)

ionic niche
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assuming no grandfathered rates, which is not considered into the discounted statement jagex makes.

queen estuary
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yeah, based on a "fresh" sub.

copper haven
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So what does happen to all the cosmetics and such from these stores when they're gone? If you have them you have them, otherwise poof?

Im surprised, unless Ive just missed it, theres been no ideas to repurpose it all through other means given the amount of stuff there is.

haughty patio
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Reasonable we'll get info then

copper haven
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Gotcha. I suppose keeping future plans under wraps encourages people to spend their remainders more as well.

lapis mural
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what happens to special oddmentd

slender temple
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no one knows freddy

lapis mural
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rhey said there would peolly be a promo to spend em

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Ol

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Ok

slender temple
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I wouldnt be surprised if they just yeeted them when jan 19 comes along

ionic niche
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The oddment store details are shared on the news post and what will happen to oddments after

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But for special ones like seasonal, they didn't say BUT that may come with the change. Its not set in stone

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The early idea was to bring it back as a store with multiple tabs, like they did with the currency tokens for outfits.

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But until the oddment store changes happen, its hard to say just right now

hearty laurel
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so heres the thing, u cant repeatably sell the premier artifact

compact atlas
pliant pivot
chilly ledge
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They still haven't said anything about the time limited players yet? Or are they waiting for January 19th?

haughty patio
pulsar shell
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Purchase something where the use of it is already paywalled.

next shell
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any removal of purchaseable advantage sounds good to me, obviously the ideal would be absolutely nothing (not even the buyable bxp or bombs that will be remaining) but we take the wins we're given and keep pushing for the rest

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i don't see a contradiction, i just see stepping stones

stable meteor
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If xp bundles were getting nukes as well I would have a better understanding of the prem artifact and vault going. But as xp bundles are going to be available in store I'm just left puzzled where the line is drawn. What membership you choose is a choice. I was against TH for its gambling and p2w. As much as I hate TH I regret my vote. It was clearly a blank cheque for Jx to do whatever they want. Minimal consultation, minimal communication and total upheaval. Why did I ever believe things would change for the good.

queen estuary
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I suspect premier change is more targeted at the integrity stuff rather than TH itself being removed tbh.

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What membersihip you choose isn't a choice if you don't have the ability (or want) to pay for a massive lump at a time

spiral dirge
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Bundles suck but just there to be a singular form of buyable XP

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just like marketplace to be singular place for all other MTX (hopefully only cosmetics and bonds)

haughty patio
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yeah makes sense to be tied to what we know of integrity roadmap

queen estuary
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Plus artefact was just always bad as a p2w thing in the first place

hearty yew
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Primary reason to get premier is the discounted membership. Everything else is just a free bonus.
Can't really complain about not getting something for free.

stable meteor
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If it was clear when I bought my membership that it wasn't a part of it for this year, fine. Changes happen. Adding it to the TH removal is what has me cross, frustrated and just disheartened as to where this is leading us to. It is still advertised as part of the premier membership perks. It's false advertising and 100% misleading.

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Promising a year, to give 2-3 weeks is a bit rough

hearty yew
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They openly said they would be taking steps to improve game integrity such as removing most purchasable advantages.
Announced or not. It needed to happen.

stable meteor
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How is promising something and then taking it away = integrity? It = to false advertising and mistrust. I get the steps to improve, the integrity road map. But that includes open communication, clear concise information well ahead of the implementation. What has already been planned and communicated, tho not very clearly. It is enough. This new step should have been left to the next stage.

queen estuary
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Perhaps, but removing other P2W and leaving this in at the same time would be a pretty stinky move

hearty yew
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Exactly.
Its either leave it and get people complaining.
Or remove it and get people complaining. And improve the game.

wild trellis
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this is more ppl talking at cross-purposes

stable meteor
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We will just have to agree to disagree.
False advertising is false advertising what ever take you want on it.

wild trellis
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'the game is better without this system' 'I paid to benefit from this system and I am annoyed that my purchase is being taken away' are not contradictory positions

frank cove
haughty patio
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I think the integrity roadmap is going to be a bit important for how to judge this

queen estuary
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True, it could be getting replaced with something entirely better

haughty patio
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if auras completely change as a system not needing refreshes this year (which is a very reasonable guess given what Jagex has said)

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that instantly mean the most valued part of the premier artefact would do nothing anyways

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They've explicitly stated that auras are part of integrity roadmap

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we just don't know how

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They've also said that aura refreshes is designated for deletion list and part of that is due to the plans they have for auras

stable meteor
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And that would be the time to implement it ...

flint copper
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they can take w.e the heck they want from premiere I just want to be INFORMED about it BEFORE i bought premiere not AFTER i bought it

chilly ledge
# haughty patio Wouldn't this be the purchaseable BXP?

if this is the only thing they are going with, that pushes me out of most of the higher end content they have planned out. i thought i saw them post more details for this playstyle but until i see that, i won't ever be able to catch up

next shell
feral totem
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I think it's fair to critique the false advertising quite harshly. Dropping the ball is something I'd say if they came out on the 19th of November saying "oh hey my bad, we're also looking at getting rid of these benefits to premier." Premier is a really expensive lump sum to purchase especially in todays economy, whether that be with real world money or in game currency. I can't speak for anywhere outside the US, but a tremendous amount of people have had to cut back on all of their spending and are forced to visit the food banks weekly to get by. $100 is a lot that could go toward other things, likewise the 3B cost of it in game isn't too kind on the wallet either. If you consider the jump that it takes to go from bonding weekly to buying premier, it's a tremendous ask. Everywhere around the world is feeling the squeeze though, especially with regard to any extraneous entertainment purchases or luxuries like gaming. It's incredibly disingenuous in my opinion to have continued to advertise it, even up to this day, after the announcement of it's removal. Even more so egregious if it was a last minute decision that happened.

These are the actions that cause consumers to lose faith in the company as a whole. I won't dispute that removing auras is a wonderful thing, and that with it the premier artefact should go. I won't heavily dispute the removal of the vault either, even though it's dubious how well that will play out for integrity changes as you're still going to be able to purchase bonus exp. It's silly, but at the end of the day it's a once a month activity that for the most part, I never even took part in despite my eligibility to do so.

To speak more frankly on the matter of losing faith, even the recent update putting the COSMETIC cape inversions behind a total of 8 years play time to get them all. And to hear that Yuey basically let it slip that this is essentially all to force engagement and incentivize premier purchasing. Now, my understanding is that isn't their exact wording on it, but this whole move is even more nonsensical.

Also, to be fair, I've always had little faith in RS3. The pollution of MTX over the last 15+ years has done tremendous harm. The removal of TH sounded like a lovely thing when it was first being talked about in the middle of last year, and it definitely instilled some measure of faith that things could move forward positively. I've never bothered voicing my opinion before on matters because I never thought it to be worth my time, but this honestly is a pretty horrible look for the RS3 mods. As long as purchasable BXP is included within the "integrity roadmap" being talked about, it'll be clear to me and every other player how little game integrity actually matters.

If integrity is the focus of this update, then rather than keeping quiet about things until the last minute, speak up. Does it show integrity to continue to allow MTX, just not in the gacha form it was painted with before? Lastly, if you want your player base to believe in the integrity of your company, is attempting to force engagement by locking cosmetics behind 8 years of progress really the best way to do it? Even after you released them several years ago during the FSW opportunity? I may be one of the more vocal people about this, but I assure you that these thoughts are mimicked by other people in this thread, my clan, and the other social discords that I'm apart of.

If I had to describe the behavior of Jagex right now with regard to everything I've mentioned in a single word, the word I'd choose is "duplicitous"

frank juniper
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^

queen estuary
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Premier is a really expensive lump sum to purchase
Frankly, this is the reason why the removal of the artefact is a good thing. It's an unfair P2W advantage for those who can/are willing to spend that large amount upfront.

Not to say I don't agree regards it should have had further warning, but from an integrity standpoint it's a great change, and frankly outside of all the other benefits of premier I've always viewed the artefact as the smallest one to care about (Altho that is IM perspective)

Lastly, if you want your player base to believe in the integrity of your company, is attempting to force engagement by locking cosmetics behind 8 years of progress
The cosmetics are locked behind getting 99/120 in a skill in the first place, which is already a lot of progress (And the time taken to get the shards is irrelevant in comparison tbh), and it's arguably less forced engagement due to not having them all available. IF they were available year round, then yes having them all available at once would be fine, but with them limited to a monthly event it would cause an awful issue with people feeling like they had to grind them all out of get them all (Despite them having no actual true value and most people not going to use most of them)

I don't like the fact that the capes are "free" to get in general with no real requirements behind them, but I'd much rather this version than just "Yeah have all the capes enjoy".

formal schooner
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WTH i dont remember them saying anything about removing the premier artifact thats some serious bs

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nor do i recall them ever saying they were removing the vault wth

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when we voted there was nothing written about them taking away our premier membership rewards with the vault and artifact they better reconsider that move otherwise premier membership is no longer worth getting

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the only way i can see them getting away with taking away the vault and artifact is if they replace them with some seriously better things like if you have premier membership it gives membership to every account tied to your jagex account that has the premier membership account on it

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thats the only way i can see them being able to get away with removing the two things people get premier for

balmy summit
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otherwise premier membership is no longer worth getting
tbf it's already the cheapest membership option for most people, that's worth it for many people

formal schooner
queen estuary
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It's worth getting with literal 0 benefits, it's 33% off for the year of subscription.
Given integrity changes, I suspect there's near 0 chance they won't go through with removal of premier artefact, at most it might get pushed back

formal schooner
balmy summit
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membership for all characters is very unlikely to happen since you can have 20 characters on one JAcc
That'd be a big shooting-themselves-in-the-feet

frank umbra
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I just wish premier wasn't such an absurd lump sum. I've been playing via bonds for about 2 years and I have never been able to save up anywhere near 3B, that's almost full BiS for one style.

formal schooner
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right now in my eyes sure its a cheaper option but the benifits it gave are why i personally bought it. the only way i see them getting away with removing those two things is adding in what i just said otherwise they are gonna have some seriously disappointed players

formal schooner
queen estuary
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At most I guess it could drop to 18 or 19 bonds (But ew non-round number)

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Wait no, my maths is the wrong way round today

formal schooner
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10 is a good number especially if they are removing benifits from it

queen estuary
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Wait no my maths is fine

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10 is a ridiculous number

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10 bonds gives you 140 days of sub, premier is 356 days

formal schooner
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on a side note was i reading correctly that all the oddment stuff is gonna cost gold now?

queen estuary
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which is 25.5 bonds worth of playtime

balmy summit
queen estuary
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so yeah, knock 1/3 off that in line with the standard price and 18ish is about right

formal schooner
balmy summit
formal schooner
balmy summit
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easier to make money -> easier to buy bonds with ingame gp -> bonds go up as supply stays relatively the same but demand goes up

frank umbra
formal schooner
queen estuary
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And then your best way to ever buy premier is from buying bonds, not premier directly.

ionic niche
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Fwiw: they also stated in the last blog they're going to talk about long term changes to premier in upcoming weeks too

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So they may have unannounced plans for it, which could be anything from changed benefits (additions/revamps), changed pricing, or alternate usage what it does

balmy summit
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Mate let's not

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Let's leave legal matters to legal experts, not wannabe discord lawyers

formal schooner
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there was no reason to delete those at all its a legit question and concern

balmy summit
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I'm sure Jagex's actual lawyers know this situation better than folks on reddit, let them handle it

formal schooner
balmy summit
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if you disagree with my decision, you're free to request a review by DMing @agile parcel

placid rune
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The oddments-to-gold solution seems a bit too dull for ironmen. The ratio right now is too generous for early game irons and somewhat meaningless for the late game.

I already have all of the items from the cosmetics rotation and I currently have 1258k oddments from the almost 10 year journey my account has been through. Too just turn them into 126m feels a bit anti-climatic, especially when I could just get that gold from PvM/Thieving in a couple days (also, there's not much to buy).

I would really like to have seen additions to the store that we previously have never had a chance of obtaining as ironmen, not even for gold, like the emerald/ruby/diamond cane, cape and top hat (suits are already obtainable from a token we can buy from G.E.) or similar promos. Gnomechildcry

pulsar shell
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Just de-iron and get 2.5x the amount 😏

feral totem
queen estuary
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> preceeding a message gives the semi-embedded thing

ionic niche
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> message contents here on its own line

queen estuary
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The tasks list for Hans is year long, but the capes are only for this month (with a yearly reset) as per the FAQ iirc

ionic niche
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this
> this

feral totem
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Appreciate the tip. I'll have to take another look through things on here but my impression was the opposite and that the task list was this month with capes being year long because of the time it takes to get 99s/120s

rose carbon
coarse lava
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Can we see a list of the last oddment special shop? What does all items in the current rotation mean? Any items will be left behind?

umbral sand
frank juniper
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I thought the point of Ironmen getting the various oddment variants was to collect cosmetic items. Stuff that doesn't impact the game, so they aren't getting a free handout / shortcut. Just a bit of "fashionscape" so they look nice while grinding away.

queen estuary
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realistically the amount of gp they're giving to anyone is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I think I'm getting like 20m worth? After ~5 years

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The accounts that would actually be impacted by it majorly are new accounts which won't have many oddments to convert

frank juniper
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^

wild trellis
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some long-term irons are getting p much a bond for free

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but agree I don't see the need for us to get anything

queen estuary
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I'd rather see a bunch of cosmetics available for oddments than the gp from them tbh

umbral sand
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Oh, i was responding directly to someone complaining as an iron, they werent getting enough cash from it

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But yeah, its mostly irrelevant

frank umbra
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Okay, one bond for free after 15 years of event grinding for oddments isn’t really a big benefit.

placid rune
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So I am not complaining about Jagex being cheap, I am simply stating that gold was a poor solution altogether to begin with

placid rune
frank juniper
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The hard part is Jagex appears to be reacting to an issue they created.

wild trellis
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yeah should have given irons nothing at every previous stage where irons have received oddments tbh

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ironmen deserve less

haughty patio
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The fun thing is that people that write those statements sound like they hate ironmen but its always ironmen themselves writing them

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Iron mode enjoyers want the mode preserved

wild trellis
stable meteor
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Uhm am I missing something, the oddment store only has a few outfits. Is that it?

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Seriously hoping it will change after midday :/

umbral sand
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its supposed to change on the 12th sometime

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not before

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12th-19th is the time availabel

placid rune
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Yeah, giving us nothing in the first place to not set any expectations of ever obtaining TH only cosmetics in the first place would have better

ionic niche
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More than likely relies on the system update to go live so people will have to wait anyways