rework obtaining surgeons ring

[wicked oasis]

this is something they need to heavily rework to make it less annoying and painful to obtain. not only is it unnecessarily difficult to obtain but the fact its needed for master clues while being difficult to obtain is something they need to go back and fix. they need to change how its obtained or make it so you can ignore the purple effect entirely during the speed run challenge. if ive already completed the quest there is no reason the purple effect should effect me anymore.

[sharp bear]

To be realistic about the quest, i don't think anybody could memorize every step, and tabbing between the quick guide and the game window loses you a lot of time, i don't feel that good about how much power a second monitor has in getting the ring but i also don't really wanna compromise the integrity of the speedrun, assuming you think that distinction between having a second monitor or not hasn't already done so

just keep practicing at it and you'll get the ring for sure.

[wicked oasis]

either way the issue is the purple shouldnt damage us after quest completion during the speed run not to mention they need to let us use rage relic in there again. its dumb that they removed it in the first place

either way point still stands it needs to be heavily reworked

they shouldnt have removed rage relic either. it makes no sense to have done that

[heavy lodge]

as someone who hasn't done it, skill issue

[prime yacht]

Complaining below:
||This was such an absolutely rude change seemingly done out of pure spite. My buddy went to get his ring, got the power specifically for it then had to pay more chronotes just to disable it then reenable it after. Jagex didn’t even have the decency to just shut it off for the quest… no, they just punish the players who have it. I liked and defended the quest until they pulled that change.

If they really wanted the challenge to mean something then they also needed to disable everyone’s ring that did it after archeology came out. But no, just screw over the new players.||

A viable rework imo would be after your first completion to enable lines on the ground showing where to go to account for those lacking second monitors/phones.

[wicked oasis]

id be down for the line rework ❤️

[golden badge]

people completed it before persistent rage existed and it was balanced around that not existing

[hexed oak]

You can even complete it without healing.

Git Gud.

[wicked oasis]

saying git gud doesnt contribute to the conversation it just shows your toxicity. please kindly refrain from being toxic if you cant say anything nice and helpful to the convo dont comment at all

[wicked oasis]

yeah but the problem i have is that it practically requires two monitors to complete it. not everyone has two monitors. it would be nice to see them add what the other person said and add arrows to those that have already completed the quest and id like to see them make us immune to the purple damage as well if we have already completed the quest. not to mention they need to remove the cutscenes or figure out a way that they dont interfere with the speed run

[hexed oak]

Sure, have it that way.

It's a challenge to prove you've mastered the quest and routes to take to minimize time, damage and errors such that you earn the rewards you want. You don't need a second monitor, you just need to memorize the paths to take and how to solve each puzzle quickly. And if you're unable to memorize it, draw some quick guidelines you can tab between.

Practice makes perfect. It might take a few attempts to learn, but you'll be able to do it eventually.

Or as the apparently toxic people like to summarize, git gud.

[golden badge]

worst case, you can resize the game to half your screen and have the guide next to it