#Right Click Re-Examine: 110 Crafting

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austere linden
prisma vector
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i accept your starbloom robes breezy thumpup thank you for not opening the grandmaster can of worms

lofty geode
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Yeah, looks great 👍

haughty vale
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This is cool but if it doesn't act as elite outfit gloves then it's DoA

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prisma vector
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having read the whole thing, the only thing that made me raise an eyebrow is the spirit conservation bracelet conflicting with elite skilling outfits

brittle lava
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Do platinum jewellery degrade to dust, or to an uncharged state?
Will the anklet be compactable?

haughty vale
austere linden
prisma vector
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ring of retribution sounds metal as hell but if we were open to swapping the effects around, that's where i would want the spirit conservation, grace of the elves would be even worse to lose and the anklet has the same issue as the bracelet

haughty vale
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Sounds like a great switch for Nakatra obliteration and AG frost cannon

prisma vector
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also also, conservation? you're spending more spirits, not conserving them

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spirit devouring bracelet pls

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i think that's all i have to say

haughty vale
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Is the anklet going to be passage of the abyssable?

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Also love that the urns are going to use gems. Gems have been useless ever since bak bolts were left in the dust by dino arrows

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Even in bak bolts' hay day, there was much more supply than demand

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Wonder what is going to be the new porter tier wk_think Wonder if it's still going to be dragonstone just in a platnium necklace now

dawn echo
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The fact players are already going "let me throw this in passage of the abyss" just shows the new anklet isn't hitting the mark? It's the first new skilling item for said slot and it's already having its use put in another item as teleport fodder.

I do like the other slots uses for skilling however.

haughty vale
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cluing is a thing

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Cluing has VERY VERY limited inventory space. Hence the desire for passage of the abyss

austere linden
prisma vector
haughty vale
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Lapel pin

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Earrings!

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Nose ring!

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Nose stud!

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ADORN ME!

austere linden
haughty vale
dawn echo
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This is fair. Just hoped for a little more variation but I guess some more convenience would be nice.

This is from a player that did 15k hards before realising ardougne cloak teleport was a thing so what do I know 🤣

slow gorge
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A bit disappointed to see the new jewelry clashing with the elite outfits. Really difficult to justify using them. Curious to see how the armor crafting process feels since it’s a lot more limited to access materials than Mining+Smithing, Fletching, and Runecrafting thus far due to the Farming timegate.

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Not upset with the robes either but I am a tad disappointed y’all didn’t go with the route of the Anachronia plant seeds. They’re just so useless😭

lofty geode
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Seems like tradeoffs and decision-making friction was the idea

haughty vale
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Bad tradeoff

slow gorge
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Eager to see how the Masterwork set feels and very excited by the Crafting Guild rework as well

haughty vale
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The tradeoff is that the bracelet is consumable

slow gorge
haughty vale
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that should be the only tradeoff

frozen pendant
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I think this all looks cool, and really appreciate the non-combat related stuff being added. Gives me more reason to be excited to do this on my Iron, they aren't high enough combat to use the weapons & armor these 110s have been adding but the urns and jewllery look sick.

slow gorge
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The urns are a big point of excitement, I agree 🙂

haughty vale
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Kinda want the urns now tho... need to make more but don't want to until we get the update

frozen pendant
haughty vale
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Would also like the artificer's measure to be updated to allow for faster glass blowing

slow gorge
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Porcelain seems great and I’m eager to see what the benefits for the mining process are with the water flow

haughty vale
slow gorge
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The issue is the bracelet that interacts with spirits

frozen pendant
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ah am stoop, the 10% xp on the bracelets is still more than the raw xp bonus the elites give tho right?

naive ferry
haughty vale
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Nakatra gives you all this molten glass then it takes decades to process it all into bomb vials making shop runs outright faster and cheaper

slow gorge
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+3% xp at the cost of doubling your wood spirit usage and losing the extra chopping effects and such

naive ferry
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so it should be more than 3%

frozen pendant
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yeah im not sure how much %xp the other benefits are worth, could be interesting for the mainscape economy if it is better xp if you have the gold to burn on spirits, could make them worth more as drops?

slow gorge
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The set effect for the elites is with all 5 on

severe tree
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give us a better anklet, like a ironman silverhawk anklet 😛

slow gorge
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So yes you can wear just 4 1% boost pieces but you’re losing the actual set bonuses which are very good

haughty vale
severe tree
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i vote for a sock slot

haughty vale
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underwear slot while we're at it

slow gorge
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Yeah I do wanna know why a small anklet stops me wearing shoes😂

lofty geode
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Turn auras into meals/brews and then turn the slot into an anklet slot. Problem solved 🙂

haughty vale
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Tho why don't we have an earrings slot? wk_think

alpine wind
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Ooh.
Well, looks like there will be soemthing new tp put in my 2nd pota; the anklet teleports seem useful

haughty vale
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If it can be put into the PotA

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Not yet confirmed

alpine wind
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True

haughty vale
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I can imagine the devs frantically scrambling reading this chat "SHIT! WE FORGOT PotA!!"

alpine wind
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🤣 🤣 🤣

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I mean, it fits everything else that goes in there.
Charged, equippable teleport item

lofty geode
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Looks like Breezy did mention it in the Clue Chasers discord

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haughty vale
alpine wind
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The teleports are so clearly a gift to clueers, them forgetting to pota it would be something for sure

haughty vale
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I mean... wouldn't be the first time they forgot about something cough reworking vorkath before nerfing blood reaver cough

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cough 110 firemaking cough

umbral helm
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Keeping track of charges everywhere is tiring, please add options to overcharge 1000's of charges, no matter the cost 😄

rapid falcon
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Not sure if already mentioned but in a similiar vein that smithing has superheat item, could we potentially look at a new spell for the new crafting that uses time runes?

Was thinking: Reverse Stitch
Reverse 1 mistake on a progressed item
Costs: 3 Time runes and 5-10 of an elemental rune?

crude plover
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Some numbers on the platinum Spirit Conservation Bracelet, before factoring in losses of outfit (frequently larger than 10%), annoyance of constantly equipping/needing more bracelets, and economic changes due to this:

306 GP at banite for ~5 XP/use - 61 GP/XP
13,692 GP at primal for ~9 XP/use - 1521 GP/XP
1018 GP at time altar for 6 XP/use - 170 GP/XP.
If it doesn't stack with abyss, time becomes 1.7 XP and 600 GP/XP.
7920 at Eternal Magic for 64 XP/use - 124 GP/XP.

These are all disastrously bad tradeoffs on the face of it, even before considering the drawbacks. With current numbers, this will see less play than the upgraded* amulets of offerings, already an underwhelming and forgotten item with a similar design. When something is going to have a huge cost and further drawbacks attached, the benefit has to be comparably better than just 10% XP.

pale axle
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Amulet of Offerings is bis for Fletching and Crafting. I use mine all the time.

wanton hemlock
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I would like to request a change, make sunburst thingy quite literally any other slot on the character, or let us charge elves necklace with it.
Otherwise it will be incredibly irritating to use, and when an item is irritating, it is rarely used

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another request would be enabling us to stack charges, lets say up to 500. I wouldn't care at all about cost, but having to keep an eye on the upkeep when farming presets are already as busy as they are? yeah its not getting used likely ever

pale axle
earnest sky
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Will the new urns add urns for other skills?

Is there a place to vote for the tank or power masterwork magic armour?

halcyon mirage
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While I like that they're trying to add more relevant crafting for my main combat style, how about making farming room options in the player owned homes for it & other farming skill boosting, like a garden or greenhouse with the growing spots you can build in your house? Or a way for the character to track where those are in an easy-to-access menu for both pc & mobile versions, like an automated map marker or menu? Otherwise those with medically induced memory issues like myself are gatekept out of it via accessibility issues. I am also unclear on what slot the anklet will take on the equipment menu, & if versions for other stone types will be added. Is there going to be a new equipment slot for anklets? Will anklets otherwise take up a different slot, like the boots slot? If anklets get their own slot, then what other varieties of anklets could be come up with?

haughty vale
mystic ledge
prisma vector
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that's great feelsgood

mystic ledge
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gg they got one guy'd

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xdd

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jk but fr that was a good catch I didnt even realize it reading the blog

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IDK about anyone else, but I don't know of any use case for the Sunburst Necklace. For me personally, I do a single farm run every 24 hours, usually right when I log in for my session and that's it. So 90% of my seeds are fully grown. I guess this is specifically for people pushing 120/200m farming planting trees on Cooldown??

prisma vector
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there's alot of people who do herb runs as often as possible

mystic ledge
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so its for psychopaths? got it

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jk but fr? I didnt think anyone would actually drop what they are doing to do an herb run every 90minutes

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or however long herbs normally take to grow

prisma vector
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4 stages of 20 minutes i think

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if the necklace read "get 33% more herbs" everybody would think it was op

mystic ledge
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makes sense. but then also people are doing that on repeat 1 time on aura then like 4 times off aura??

prisma vector
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but that is kinda what it says

mystic ledge
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thats only if you do it on cd yeah

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also its 25% but still

empty jacinth
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so now it would be 2?

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unless they don't stack

mystic ledge
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well the amulet alone is still 25%

empty jacinth
mystic ledge
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assuming stacking its 25% plus 25%

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skipping 40min of growth on an 80min growth plant

empty jacinth
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and if you're trying to get the most out of trees you're probably using supreme growths

mystic ledge
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yeah

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4k beans isnt that hard to get

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If you're someone actively trying to grow trees liek that, beans are no longer a currnecy thats relevant to you

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id imagine

naive ferry
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but no more seren spirits from herb runs 👹

dull crag
naive ferry
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are we necklace swapping for herb runs now

austere linden
cinder grotto
mystic ledge
haughty vale
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So I made a simulation for mining (Still need to do woodcutting) and you end up getting more ore and exp when using the bracelet over the golem outfit. Obviously at the cost of using more spirits. For lower level ores, the outfit has more of a benefit though since it doubles ores more often the lower the level the ore is

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This is for animica ore and 1 hour's worth of "mining ticks"

fluid quiver
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i don't see how that's remotely possible

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nothing about the bracelet affects the rate at which you gather ores. only the amount of xp when you get one. you should never wind up with more ores/hr than golem outfit

haughty vale
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Oh, I misunderstood the description. I thought that extra spirit that was consumed also awarded another ore

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god damn this bracelet is dog doo doo

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holy shit it's useless

fluid quiver
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there it is :v)

haughty vale
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Doesn't the sentinal outfit increase success by 7% which is essentially a 7% exp buff... so for 3% more exp you can have:

  • Less logs
  • EVEN LESS LOGS (cause your spirits don't go as far)
  • More upkeep (Cause the jewelry is consumable)
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this is even a worse offer for woodcutting

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my god

fluid quiver
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not quite a 7% xp buff

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cuz i think it's additive, not multiplicative

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so if your success rate is normally 7% (lol), it becomes 14% which is quite a bit better than 7.49%

haughty vale
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oh

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poopy

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still... absolutely horrendous tradeoff

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DoA for sure

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I wouldn't even use this if the outfit wasn't a thing

fluid quiver
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well yeah. in just about every scenario, the 7% success chance is much stronger than a 7% xp buff

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i think there's probably a massive oversupply of many types of stone spirits that jagex wants to try and drain but that oversupply doesn't exist for wc or rc so it's pretty useless for those skills

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and the tradeoff for yeeting an extra spirit is not strong enough on its own atm

haughty vale
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I made a suggestion that the core hammer could be upgraded so that you could set how many spirits to use per ore acquisition and it would function like the seeds. 1 spirit = 1 ore. 2 spirits = 1.5 ore (an extra ore 50% of the time). 3 spirits = 2.2, etc

fluid quiver
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if there was a glove slot or w/e down the road that did something each time a spirit was consumed, and/or a helmet that had a chance to save spirits from being consumed, it could be a good alternative option to the elite outfit. just don't have all the parts yet

mystic ledge
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Oh I just saw that it was misunderstood what the braclet does for that rip

craggy vortex
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The platinum jewelry just doesn't hit the mark for me. In my mind it is high-level jewelry yet it has charge mechanics like low-level jewelry. It wants to potentially have decent effects but the drawbacks seem to outweigh the benefits.

empty jacinth
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It seems to be designed as a sink for dragonstone (and platinum) but def could use a look at the balancing (eg. spirits consumption ends up very expensive in gp per xp)

naive ferry
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what if each of these jewellery pieces was a different anklet and we just had a separate anklet slot? you could also make them function like compacted jewellery and let them store an absolute ton of charges

dawn cedar
dawn cedar
lean roost
mystic ledge
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i dont think a 2nd ring slot would be healthy for the game as there are a lot of good ring options for combat, so having an additional slot would definitely cause problems with pvm.

rapid falcon
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Could just be a skilling jewelry slot tbh