#Veteran capes

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haughty zealot
bronze oxide
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The thing about adding more teleports at this point in time is it only really benefits cluers, and then you'd have to decide how optimal the cape teleports are supposed to be for completing a clue step nearby to the teleport destination, personally i don't think its healthy to make them the best option for any clue step given their timegated nature, but as long as that's being kept in mind when deciding where the teleports might go to, i wouldn't mind this suggestion

haughty zealot
# bronze oxide The thing about adding more teleports at this point in time is it only really be...

i think at least a quick port to Hans would be beneficial I'm unaware of another way to view your play time in-game, with the beach event i found myself running over there and talking to him a few times for fun is all and it occurred to me. I suppose I was thinking the teleports could be more whimsical rather then specifically helpful in any certain way ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks for commenting ๐Ÿ™‚

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oh yaknow it could be like a contact thing instead where you can contact HANS and talk to him with the cape. Just thought of that aswell @bronze oxide

bronze oxide
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tp to hans is totally fine

haughty zealot
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Thanks for letting me share ๐Ÿ™‚

ancient dock
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Taking to Hans through the cape would be excellent

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An option to quick check your hours spent ingame would also be fun

haughty zealot
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hans โค๏ธ

haughty zealot
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@round halo ditto

round halo
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Support gnomechildblush

haughty zealot
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๐Ÿ˜Š

haughty zealot
jade fog
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I agree vet capes should have some benefit be it a teleport or something

haughty zealot
weak rose
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I don't think it's good for veteran capes to have any non-cosmetic benefits

haughty zealot
weak rose
haughty zealot
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Why so

weak rose
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to my mind timegating anything is inherently bad

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I'm not the biggest fan of the vet capes' existence in the first place

haughty zealot
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Time gates on a over 20 year old game? Hmmm not following that logic but sure !

weak rose
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if functionality is appealing to people there's no good reason to lock it behind 5 years and there's no pretence that having created one's account a long time ago is inherently worthy of anything

haughty zealot
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Right, then a all new item would work.

weak rose
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ideally, the age of your account would give absolutely nothing, so provided this item is accessible to everyone, that's fine imo

weak rose
haughty zealot
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Most likely long time players

weak rose
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probably but I don't think that matters

haughty zealot
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Lol

weak rose
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if it would be at all useful to anyone it has no business being timegated

haughty zealot
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Would be better to just put it in the settings interface and just have a tab for it. But this was more fun party pooper

weak rose
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but I think we fundamentally disagree as a matter of principle - you're trying to create something useful to reward vets, I think something useful being locked to older accounts should never happen

haughty zealot
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Nope

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Just want to check game time

weak rose
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is hans on npc contact?

haughty zealot
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What?

weak rose
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if the goal is to remotely check playtime with hans

weak rose
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could just stick him on the npc contact spell if he's not already

haughty zealot
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Sounds good !

haughty zealot
haughty zealot
weak rose
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the only part I personally object to is the veteran-locking but tbh I wouldn't remake it for just me

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there will be others who prefer it as-is

haughty zealot
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I only care about HANS

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That's the focus here

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Having to chase him down in and also not having a super close teleport is the issue here

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If you really think the majority of people checking play time would not be those with at least a 5 year cape I understand.

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I don't see the logic in it but sure !

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Most new players don't even know about the NPC contact LIST or lunar SPELLS to begin with. JS

weak rose
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I see most people checking playtime being those with challenge accounts

haughty zealot
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You literally see them? Orr

weak rose
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like, on my most-played account I know I have a shade over 2 years of playtime - and that makes there no real point in checking playtime for ages

haughty zealot
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Play time? You know you get the capes on the time your account was created not play time..

haughty zealot
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...what?

weak rose
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I think everyone has a rough idea of creation dates from the loyalty crowns, nobody's going to Hans for that

haughty zealot
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Some could have 3 days play time and a 10 year old account

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That's a 10 year cape

weak rose
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the main use case for Hans IME is e.g. someone has created a new account and has just got a major milestone

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they want to check how many in-game hours that took

haughty zealot
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The achievement tracker already dose this no?

weak rose
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total in-game hours?

haughty zealot
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No mile stones

weak rose
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right exactly

haughty zealot
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Okay then what's your point?

weak rose
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like, if you know that you created your account 10 years ago and you know you have about a year of playtime

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you're not going to Hans for the next 2-3 years

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because he's not providing you any useful info

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whereas someone looking to check on how long new account milestones took might realistically go to Hans several times a year

haughty zealot
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I disagree

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That's 100% your opinion. Show me evidence

weak rose
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how on earth am I supposed to provide evidence for that

haughty zealot
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Exactly lol

weak rose
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either way, I've displayed the use case for non-vets which is sufficient to show (IMO) that it would be a bad idea to lock any additional functionality to vets

haughty zealot
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Lock haha okay bud ๐Ÿ‘Œ have a good one thanks for participating.

teal grove
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These capes should be cosmetics focused. Adding functionalities means it will have timegated features by default, and 5 years minimum is not a healthy timegate.

haughty zealot
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Already addressed that above.

haughty zealot
haughty zealot
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Have it be locked behind quest points instead yeaa much better

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Lol

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It's still gonna be locked

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How many years it take to get to lunar diplomacy for you? Cause I had my 10 year cape long before i reached that.

teal grove
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Currently running for 18 for Lunar Diplomacy.

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Simply because I'm F2P ๐Ÿ™‚

haughty zealot
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18 years?

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Then yea what I'm saying is vaild then.

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Cheers going back to work ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ™‚

ancient dock
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Lol people that would get mad about a teleport to Lumbridge and A quickchat option for an irrelevant NPC being locked out for a 5 year vet cape frankly should be focusing their energy on more creative things.

I support a quick tele option to Lumby Castle and a Remote chat option for Hans.

Neither of those suggestions are bad additions to the Cape at all.

haughty zealot
glossy wing
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Would also be cool to make them not hideous also. It's crazy that your reward for years of playing is the ugliest capes in game.

haughty zealot
haughty zealot
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I would confidently say that the majority of players even if they did make a new account hold an existing account with at least the 5 year cape. Going to keep researching. @weak rose

weak rose
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(leaving original word there but it's not what I mean)

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it deserves recognition but it doesn't deserve exclusive functionality

haughty zealot
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I will find the data that is going to challenge that. Give me time.

weak rose
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I don't think there is any data which can challenge that

haughty zealot
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That's just dismissing and a bad attitude

weak rose
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if there is a single account without the 5 year cape which would want this functionality, to my mind putting it on the 5 year cape is bad

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calm down

haughty zealot
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Same to you

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I'm being positive

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Your being negative

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Could not be me

weak rose
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let's liken this to another system

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loyalty points

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what you're proposing has exactly the same problems as the current aura system

haughty zealot
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How so

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I don't see the comparison at all

weak rose
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because it's locking in-game rewards/functionality behind an arbitrary period of time with no way for the player to speed it up

haughty zealot
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Puting it on NPC contact list is also locking it

weak rose
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yes, and players can go and complete lunar diplomacy very easily

haughty zealot
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Thats just biased then it's no different. So say that

haughty zealot
weak rose
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you think something that a player can make positive steps towards and unlock whenever they want is no different to a 'go and wait 5 years' instruction?

weak rose
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like, start by excluding f2pers here

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since I will accept the vast vast majority of accounts qualify for a 5 year cape

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that much is obvious

haughty zealot
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Old news yes this applies to our conversation

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F2p players have 5 year cape enough to complain!

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Your logic has no reason

weak rose
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at the end of the day, f2pers don't matter

haughty zealot
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LMFAOOOO

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That's just untrue

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I'm not sure you even know what I'm trying to accomplish!

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HANS !

weak rose
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I think you're trying to accomplish two things

haughty zealot
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Not anything else

haughty zealot
weak rose
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  1. is make it quicker/easier to access Hans info
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I don't object to that at all

haughty zealot
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Your gas lighting me

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Wild

weak rose
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  1. is putting a reward on the veteran cape
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and it's exclusively that I have an issue with

haughty zealot
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Ffs man

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You won't listen

weak rose
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so you'd be entirely happy to remove all reference to the veteran cape from the proposal and make no changes to it

haughty zealot
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Yes

weak rose
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ok then I support your suggestion

haughty zealot
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I just want HANS !

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Mann dude you a tough NUT!

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I have an idea

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Wait

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So

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How about

weak rose
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I would suggest you change your OP though if the important bit is the Hans bit - as written, it focuses entirely on the cape with Hans as a suggestion of how it's done #1255977650925863073 message

haughty zealot
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...yes it was a whimsical idea and I already suggested redoing my post !

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Still gas lighting?

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Okay...now listen

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Whole new idea

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So for hans

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How about when you first enter the game and talk to him for the first time, you are given a CAPE of CONTACT from him so for clicking and talking to him. That way you can always get ahold of HANS. have it be the most generic cape you ever seen. That way new players can wear it and be identified by it and also old players can stash it in the bank to use to check game time ! @weak rose

haughty zealot
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๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜‘

haughty zealot
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Have fun farming brah...gotta say this was not a pleasant conversation....

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Dial back the gas lighting a smidgen

dusky flint
# weak rose and it's exclusively that I have an issue with

im curious to hear your reasoning for this in particular, I think a player playing the game should be rewarded minorly however I do agree, shouldn't be too overpowering to where it becomes 'mandatory'
but things like qol teleporters I think is fine honestly, or a veterans guild that is just a convenient location to teleport to and have a micro max guild with additional teleporters (similar teleport like max guild maybe?)

onyx bluff
dusky flint
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I feel the Classic Cape shouldn't have benefits as its an exclusive cape for participating in Classic (even after rs2 release)
and no this isn't mentioned because I don't have it, as I do own one, but just feel it wouldn't apply with the Veteran Capes.
but essentially anyone with a Classic Cape would also own a Veteran cape gaurenteed.

dusky flint
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the benefit to the PvM hub and Max guild would be respectively different from the Veterans Guild if possible though;
Different Teleport Locations could be unlocked and earned through in game achievement completions.

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could even make it accessible to 5 Year+ Players making it accessible

haughty zealot
haughty zealot
onyx bluff
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I did my best to read the entire thread so sorry if I missed it, but just as a heads-up, you can also check your playtime by logging in to Runemetrics on the RS website ^^

Not saying it's a solution to your problem, just throwing it out there that it's a thing that exists

haughty zealot
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Fair point!

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This come about from spending time at the beach!

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I found myself going to see HANS and thought hey why do I have to run over here every time if I forget to take a screen grab of my play time when I looked the first time. And had to run over there again. @onyx bluff

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I think this is good, when you first enter the game and talk to him for the first time, you are given a CAPE of CONTACT from him so for clicking and talking to him. That way you can always get ahold of HANS. have it be the most generic cape you ever seen. That way new players can wear it and be identified by it and also old players can stash it in the bank to use to check game time !

dusky flint
haughty zealot
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For sure

haughty zealot