#Hermod should count as Armoured Phantom On Slayer Task

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midnight ibex
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Hermod summons armoured phantoms, and looks like an armoured phantom. He is the spirit of war who leads all other armoured phantoms, but neither he nor his summons count towards armoured phantom kill count on a slayer task. Feels like this might have just been missed, and could be easily fixed by our resident ninjas!

cosmic kayak
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I'd rather they came up with some lore handwave as to why he's not

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I think getting an armoured phantom task and feeling obliged to go and get 100 hermod kc or whatever would be pretty awful

midnight ibex
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Its more so to give another option. Osseus was introduced and counts as both undead and dinosaur on task. But doesnt mean I am going to go kill Osseus every dinosaur and undead task. Its just nice to have a boss option that counts on a slayer task every once in awhile. Like Dag kings for daggonoth task.

untold needle
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Why would a boss that doesn't require slayer level count as a level 113 slayer mob?

craggy tundra
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Spirit of war, not phantom of war

fading galleon
cosmic kayak
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maybe if you call it an armoured phantom but disable the effect of a slayer helm

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that could work

midnight ibex
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I actually dont even know if that would be accurate, Hermod's overall drop table is rather poor. So if you are farming him on a slayer task, armoured phantom tasks are 50-60 youd get better loot drops most likely from the phantoms, and probably even a faster kill count. Hermod would mostly just offer an alternative monster to kill which is granted by many other beasts in game. phantoms are just so new they dont have other options like lots of slayer monsters.

cosmic kayak
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the efficiency is about the pet

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armoured phantoms are currently a skip task for efficient/completionist players

midnight ibex
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Just stealing from PVME for the numbers:
Armoured Phantoms - ⬥ Optimal kills per hour: ~690 (~630 AFK necromancy & :melee:)
⬥ Optimal slayer XP per hour: ~1.725M (~1.575M AFK)

They dont have the data for hermod, but lets assume you can average ~40 second kill for Hermy.

Optimal kills per hour - ~90

So your actual argument is you do not wish to engage with Hermod post log completion. Which is all you, but not necessarily everyone. I was just stating it would be nice for players to have alternatives. And yes, armoured phantoms are a blocked task because they are slow. This would give players a reason to not block the task and then kill hermy for log. Honestly your 200m Slayer, this change wouldnt even effect you, your the wrong demo for this change. Maybe would effect an Alt? Who knows. Im 200m necro myself maybe I am not even the right demo for this content lol.

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The thought mostly came to me while farming hermod for pet after doing an armoured phantom task and realizing they are practically the same monster just different mechanics.

cosmic kayak
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yeah this is why I specified completionist (b/c 200m slayer happens a long time before log completion)

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realistically hermod is afk at its target level already

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I don't think it needs a further buff in the form of slayer helm bonuses

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and there is precedent for granting task KC but not slayer helm bonuses (QBD)