#Fort Forinthry

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lusty crow
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If his family sword was being kept there

undone geode
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It’s tempered in swamp tar

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Sorry I mean oiled

bold quest
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They conscript civilians prior to EGWD

hazy river
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one day soon we will find out what happened to vallance

bold quest
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So it’s definitely a mix

hazy river
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inshallah

lusty crow
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Because no npcs ever imply otherwise, they only say the White Knights are taking advantage of him

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Denulth, the Museum

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Like, there doesn't need to be something more going on

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Old weak puppet king resulting in a de facto coup is plenty intriguing

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And actually believable

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But then we got Veilinius suggesting something more

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And having a crown on his table

bold quest
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It was always pretty obvious there was more involved

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Not necessarily because of in-game

bold quest
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But the mods have teased storylines etc. around that very question

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It’s been clear they’ve been thinking there’s more involved with Vallance for a bit now

lusty crow
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That random quest pitch on the survey

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About King Vallance "returning" to Falador and you helping Tiffy investigate what the king was up to

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Was plenty intriguing

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Almost suggested Vallance might be an antagonist??

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In this random quest pitch, at least

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And returning would mean he wasn't sick after all, he was actually off somewhere else - doing what?

undone geode
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I’d be very surprised if that Vallance didn’t end up being a fake

bold quest
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I always took that as Veilinius would return as him

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Well, not always

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But given what we know now

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I assume that’s what they’d do

lusty crow
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Hmm

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That fits, I guess

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A couple people in the Discord here have pointed out

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That "Vallance" sounds oddly similar to "Veilinius"

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What if there never was a Vallance

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Veilinius says "the less said about King Vallance, the better"

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Which can be interpreted in several ways

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And he does have a crown on his table

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Vallance -> Vey Lance -> Veilinius

night stag
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Im prettttttttty sure that the next update is that Moia has sent out a declaration that anyone that can hold land in the Wilderness will be given a Duke title

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Under her

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And then Evil Dave builds a fort next door

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That seems pretty obvious

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How could the story go any other way

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See Dave waving from atop his Keep “HIYA NEIGHBOR!”

lusty crow
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We must consider

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Who is Dave's elusive Uncle Nigel?

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According to the Evil Dave court case

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Nigel wants Dave to follow in his trade

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But it isn't stated what this trade is

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Oziach also notes he has not actually met Uncle Nigel so can't be certain he exists

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But let us assume that he does

night stag
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Butter churning

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It was in the subtext

bold quest
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Unless Veilinius has been every king of falador

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Since it’s inception

lusty crow
bold quest
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Surely people would realize this random guy came in and isn’t actually the heir?

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He had to have been born from the prior king right?

night stag
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Depends

lusty crow
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He devoured the prince and stole his form

lusty crow
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He has been every king of Falador.

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What's Warbreaker?

night stag
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Realized thats a spoiler

bold quest
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I wonder how that would actually effect Asgarnia

night stag
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A Sanderson book

bold quest
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Asgarnia from its inception was one giant Zarosian deception

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If that was the case

lusty crow
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Yes

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Veilinius does say that he rebuilt human civilization and that he is the power behind the throne

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And Tiffy in Recruitment Drive mentions that the higher-ranking members of the Temple Knights have "almost complete control over this kingdom, plus a few others, so I hear"

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So it might be that this entire time the three kingdoms have been a sham puppeted by Veilinius

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Asgarnia more so than the others

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@bold quest Thoughts?

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In fact

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This could even explain some of the stuff Solmestix has pointed out here

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Why King Roald is so incompetent

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Or why King Ulthas seemed to be for no apparent reason doing things to sabotage and weaken his own kingdom

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Solmestix thought Ulthas was insane

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But what if Ulthas was deliberately trying to destroy Kandarin

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Because he knew the awful truth

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But then Ulthas dies from an "accidental arrow fired during a hunting trip"

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Who fired that arrow, Denn

bold quest
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Avernic?

lusty crow
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No

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Veilinius' agent

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Seriously though

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Thoughts?

bold quest
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It could work

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I don’t necessarily know about Kandarin

lusty crow
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But everyone knows about Kandarin; it's the largest human kingdom

bold quest
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But it would be interesting if Raddallin was also Veilinius

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It would be weird that he brought the Zamorakians in though

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Given how much he hates the Zamorakians

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Well I’m not sure if he does

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I assume he does

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Since Zarosian

lusty crow
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Maybe he used the Zamorakians as tools then discarded them when they no longer served a purpose

bold quest
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It seems like he tried to do the opposite of discard them

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Unless this was all a psyop

lusty crow
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The emissary of Zamorak who appears in Kara's dream claims that the Knights of Falador could have destroyed the Kinshra at any time but that they keep them around so the people will need them

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What a strange claim to make

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UNLESS

bold quest
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Unless?

lusty crow
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Vei

sleek oracle
night stag
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Yo the art is comin out

dire stratus
bold quest
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im honestly surprised they let you customize the chapel

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considering how much they wanted to move away from player god alignments

sleek oracle
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Environmental designers gone rogue

lusty crow
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Some of the production work that went into a smaller update for a new Fort.

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"a smaller update"

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Did no one tell him

ocean storm
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I suppose if there is to be future updates to the fort then this might be considered a smaller update?

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I liked the no seren comment

sleek oracle
acoustic trout
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I was just thinking last night how the random chunks of rubble in that area were definitely placed there because a building is going there and they don’t want people walking through.

lusty crow
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Steps onto the walls... Some kind of watchtower, perhaps?

dire stratus
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They wanted us to be able to climb onto the walls but it wasn't mechanical so couldn't be added, it was just an idea for a cosmetic thing

ocean storm
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Future content perhaps?

tight cape
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You know one thing I really appreciate here is that the buildings actually have visible rooves?

lusty crow
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By Jiminy, I haven't had them on while inside

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I'll have to remedy that

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@hazy river Look at this

hazy river
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crookedy windows

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but looks nice

sleek oracle
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Love it

tight cape
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I believe the windows are level, it's the timbers around them that are causing them to look uneven

night stag
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Theo so smug

lusty crow
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Castle Kassel

acoustic trout
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Also I know it’s just concept art but that lighting sketch shows buildings in the places we assumed new buildings would be added. Food for thought I suppose?

flint solstice
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if there's arbitrary no-walk areas or debris, presumably there will be something new there so it would stand to reason

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since "we need something there" was part of the "how to let people not be instanced but not look weird" solution

weary rose
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What sort of jobs would a Marcher Lord's fort require that we don't have currently filled?

We have an architect/builder (Bill), a banker (Copperpot), a gardener (Zoe?), a steward (Aster), and a logistics expert (Sivi). Oh and a priest.

round juniper
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i dont think approval rating thing is working right

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i boosted on Monday and my approval rating is 68% even though I boosted for 7 days

flint solstice
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were you at 100 already

round juniper
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it's also giving me the option to boost it again

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even though I should have a current operating boost

flint solstice
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isn't it up to a cap of days? So if you boosted it for 7 days, 2 days later you could still keep boosting up to a cap?

round juniper
flint solstice
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Interesting on the second part. I think it prevents degrading rather than reboosting to 100 though

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ofc the way it's phrased sounds like "free 100%, period"

tight cape
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And they say RS3 isn't pay to win pensiveclown

flint solstice
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yeah, I'm still 100% and capped out on days (besides the 1 day since I last checked)

neon rock
round juniper
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Idk this is sus

native vale
lusty crow
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But is it bigger than a breadbox?

round juniper
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Has it ever come up I wonder like why exactly the adventurer would just stroll into Varrock to see the King to end up in possession of this fort

tight cape
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That's sort of just what we do

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We just wander into peoples' houses conveniently when they are having problems

round juniper
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That is sort of classic storytelling but in a lot of recent storytelling it seems like it's preceded by some kind of invite or the story is written such that you might stumble upon something and become curious/invested

gaunt oar
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Maybe we were on our way to raid the White Tree for fruit again?

round juniper
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Rather in this story thread we just traipse into Varrock and are like "wuh wait the king wants something"

tight cape
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We were stopping in to use the public restroom

gaunt oar
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...What's a restroom?

lusty crow
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Considering how many quests we start by randomly approaching people

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It actually seems more organic to be passing by the throne room and happen to overhear stuff going on

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Why were we in the palace to begin with? I don't know, why were we there to randomly begin any number of other quests?

dire stratus
gaunt oar
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That or we are walking around and see someone who is clearly in distress so we go ask them what is wrong.

neon rock
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BUT

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We are like link

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breaking into people's places

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minus pot breaking

flint solstice
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we misclick and literally kill them

gaunt oar
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I love Minish Cap...forget pot breaking, I just run all around digging up every patch of ground I can for mysterious shells.

neon rock
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Actually speaking of Town Criers

flint solstice
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I remember the april fools where we could kill generic men and women to get child jmod drops to raise on POF

neon rock
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if you went to teh fort first

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there is a flyer there and a tele tap to varrock

lusty crow
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Where he asks what you're doing in his house

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And you say you're exploring

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And he's like "But... Why are you exploring in my house?"

neon rock
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I knowthat one

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I remember!

lusty crow
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The 2006 Falador update added so much character to the place

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But at least two of those unique men/women have since been consigned to the void

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The snobby rich woman who had the Party Room dropped on her mansion

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And the paranoid man in an upstairs house that was obliterated by the Artisans' Workshop

neon rock
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Oof

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poor man

lusty crow
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He's free now

neon rock
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incinicrated with the updated

lusty crow
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It's as though he never existed

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And that means he never suffered

gaunt oar
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I like to think they just have a secret room full of "dead" NPCs like Skyrim.

neon rock
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But when you cease to exist, you suffer in a way

hazy river
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having the king send us an invite or something to start the fort wouldve probably gone against the clean break idea

neon rock
hazy river
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oh is there?

neon rock
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meaning someone had the idea to do what the king ask

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but fled

hazy river
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thats cool

neon rock
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yup

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it gave you a teletab

hazy river
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see they think theyre being smart but i would take the teletab walk to varrock and boom

lusty crow
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So here's a question

hazy river
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free teletab

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economy in shambles

lusty crow
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Will we ever know what the Wilderness wall actually is in-lore

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Who built it, when, and for what purpose?

neon rock
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I mean they forced me to teleport when I said yes

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but yes you are correct

lusty crow
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Where the WOM gives you teletabs to modify

hazy river
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in a weird and meta logic i hope they never explain the wilderness wall so that they can one day remove it

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oh yeah he gives you a bunch right

neon rock
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yup

lusty crow
hazy river
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not really?

lusty crow
hazy river
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not any more safer than it is right now

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although they are removing the threat system so i guess it will be

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but i do think its purpose is largely not needed any more when you have to try fairly hard to enter a pvp state

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and it just doesnt look very pretty

lusty crow
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Still a perilous land of monsters and such

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But considering its existence is never acknowledged in lore

hazy river
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oh this is more of like a gameplay/game world consideration

lusty crow
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Maybe deleting it would make sense

hazy river
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lorewise its basically made out of used tinfoil

lusty crow
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Still kind of dangerous for a noob to stumble into

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Although

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If they removed it

hazy river
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eh not even the lower levels really

lusty crow
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Bob could be free once more

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Gradually, slowly but surely, he has been fenced in

hazy river
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free bob

lusty crow
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He can no longer enter Kandarin because of the way WWM works now

hazy river
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also i would assume just the visuals of the wilderness would let people know that its a dangerous area

lusty crow
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Hmm, perhaps

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Bob must be allowed to wander

hazy river
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and i mean worst case with current death costs

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a new player dies to a greater demon and has to drop like

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maybe genuinely single digit gp

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in death costs

lusty crow
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Very well, I'm with you

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Tear down the wall

hazy river
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back in my day if you wanted to go to varrock you had to brave the dark wizards gauntlet

lusty crow
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Ah yes

hazy river
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fond memories of when osrs came out on mobile and high level players bought the ring of coins

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which made you look like a big pile of money

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and stood next to the dark wizards

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many new players fell that day

lusty crow
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That sounds cruel

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I don't like that

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But unrelated

cunning briar
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I feel like some sort of alien anthropologist

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yes hello excuse me, what is the social function of this "chapel"

bold quest
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Kek

round juniper
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dude you know what i just noticed about the fort

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the light refracts off the water in the well onto the rope

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and the well itself

ocean storm
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That's been a thing for water for some time hasn't it?

tight cape
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It has but it looks really really beautiful every time

ocean storm
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I do like sitting at menaphos VIP area and looking at the reflections on the water

lusty crow
# cunning briar yes hello excuse me, what is the social function of this "chapel"

Father Aereck:
Welcome back to the church of holy Saradomin, my friend! What can I do for you today?

Who's Saradomin?
Father Aereck:
Surely you have heard of our god, Saradomin? He who created the forces of goodness and purity in this world? I cannot believe your ignorance! This is the god with more followers than any other...at least in this part of the world. He defeated the evil Zamorak in the battle of Lumbridge nearby, and he defends us from evil!

Oh, sorry, I'm not from this world.
Father Aereck:
... That's...strange. I thought things not from this world were all, you know, slime and tentacles.

I am! Do you like my disguise?
Father Aereck:
Argh! Avaunt, foul creature from another dimension! Avaunt! Begone in the name of Saradomin!
Player:
Okay, okay, I was only joking!

acoustic trout
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Or were we….the player is a Chthonian demon theory deepens.

neon rock
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new fort, new fit, who dis?

lusty crow
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For now I'm yak tracking, but there is a good chance I'll buy task skips eventually

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But not yet.

neon rock
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It looks real nice

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with the right cape also

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Same with the robes

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both outfit, if added cape, can be real Dutchy like.

gaunt oar
bold quest
lusty crow
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I have completed 24 tasks thus far

bold quest
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I have done 14, I believe

acoustic trout
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25 here

night stag
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23 here

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nice chill crafting task

lusty crow
acoustic trout
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Well my whole day is stacked with work and meetings so it won’t be hard for you.

lusty crow
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I see, I see

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Then I'll need to ensure Avernic doesn't gain a big lead over me

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Which will probably happen

night stag
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its not a race ;-;

acoustic trout
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It is now

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Winner, Who isn’t Darth, gets bragging rights and a burned piece of meat.

lusty crow
sleek oracle
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What did I do

neon rock
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What didn't you do?

acoustic trout
lusty crow
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Wait, it isn't fair for me to compete against Avernic, considering he gave me information earlier to help me complete my tasks more quickly

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Or one task, at least

spark anvil
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But he's a demon

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You must

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For saradomin!

bold quest
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i lied

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i logged in to check

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im at task 18

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but for real, i am quite impressed with the armor set

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probably my favorite set in the game

hazy river
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yeah i think i'll use it when i get it

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although i'm gonna be skill and killing a lot of these tasks ngl

lusty crow
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This is the first yak track to motivate me in this way

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And it's for the armor

lusty crow
bold quest
lusty crow
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Indeed

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That's my way of pinging you after the fact

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The last two lines before it were directed at you

hazy river
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i like the shoulder capes as well

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although i still wish they were overrides and not just physical items

lusty crow
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Same

sleek oracle
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I think on average this track is a little lower for me on the armor

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But I absolutely love the pets

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And am a fan of the weapons

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The book override especially

bold quest
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Yes I agree

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The art team in general for RS is fantastic

lusty crow
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We're lucky to have them

lusty crow
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I wish there was an option to override our old pet cats with these cats

sleek oracle
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I did not like the pictures of the cat

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But ingame with the animations it's fantastic

bold quest
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How can Moia stop us now?

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She’ll be too busy admiring the fashionscape of our fort

night stag
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@lusty crow another hot tip i hope you know

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stone spirits

weary rose
lusty crow
night stag
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🙂

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afk and doubles rate of task completion

gaunt oar
weary rose
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My services are for hire.

bold quest
night stag
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everything

gaunt oar
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stone spirits double the ore you recieve.

night stag
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just finished task 27

sleek oracle
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Stuck on 21

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Hate woodcutting tasks

night stag
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agreed

hazy river
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i'm still at like 15 or so but i'm just letting most of my tasks get skill and killed while i pvm

sleek oracle
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I love when they randomly do a woodcutting or divination one

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Complicately unrelated skills

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One of the slowest paired with one of the fastest

hazy river
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divination is gods chosen task

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super quick

sleek oracle
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If they were all divination there could be 100 tasks for all I care

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Especially with the relic

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Dwarves axe doesn't help with woodcutting unfortunately

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Does with mining

lusty crow
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It's slow going

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Any pearls of wisdom to share?

sleek oracle
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Skip summoning

night stag
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27 was an arch task

lusty crow
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Yes

night stag
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i have a couple hundred unrestored artifacts in the bank

lusty crow
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I'm doing Arch but am probably doing it wrong

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Ah

night stag
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those take me a minute

sleek oracle
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Oof I don't have any stored afaik

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Need them to add arch dummies to the crates

night stag
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155m arch xp and still no spear tip 🙃

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so i have a lot of kalikra shit

sleek oracle
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I usually just grind away at the staff locations

gaunt oar
night stag
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same difference

sleek oracle
gaunt oar
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RuneScape Wiki

A dwarven chainaxe is an item obtained from dwarven toolboxes, which were available on Treasure Hunter from 17 April 2015 to 20 April 2015. Inactive versions of the chainaxe are available after 13 July 2016.
It can be used in Resource mode to gain double the amount of logs cut with no experience gained, or it can be used in XP mode to double the...

sleek oracle
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Yeah that one

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The mining one doubles your progress so it counts towards your track

gaunt oar
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Okay, that makes sense. I was thinking the other dwarven axe

neon rock
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Chainsaw

flint solstice
neon rock
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Look how happy he is

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that's a face of a future serial killer

sleek oracle
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Tbf if he's in priff isn't he already a serial killer

neon rock
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No no

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it's the start

undone geode
flint solstice
night stag
sleek oracle
hazy river
dire stratus
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IT'S THE GUY FROM FORTNITE

hazy river
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it's John Wick Fortnite

night stag
sleek oracle
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So close

acoustic trout
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Avernic wins

lusty crow
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Mostly done, too

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But I forced myself to take a break to avoid burnout

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I could have beaten him

acoustic trout
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I mean in the end Avernic won, he completed the task, the burned meat is his.

lusty crow
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Darn

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However

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It's not over yet

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31 gets you the armor

acoustic trout
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You could see if you could convince avernic to do double or nothing yeah

lusty crow
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58 gets you the robes

acoustic trout
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We can even let Darth participate in this one.

lusty crow
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Very well

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However, I have an inkling that I may reach my limit before this point and end up buying task skips

acoustic trout
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Avernic has to agree to it though otherwise it’s not a competition

night stag
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Pfft

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Ill take my winnings now

acoustic trout
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I mean you’ll take them when I get off work and critical roll starts :p

night stag
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Or

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You can drop them on the ground

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And watch them disappear

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In my honor

acoustic trout
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That…feels like it’s just a flex on Kitty

night stag
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🙂

gaunt oar
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still need task 70 for the cape.

acoustic trout
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As the officially appointed judge of this contest, I deem that we are now on a point system. The first point to goes to avernic but 2 points remain, the second outfit at 58 and the final reward at 70. Winner is whoever gets the most points sound good?

That would mean Avernic already needs just 1 more point to win, Kitty and Darth can still catch up.

lusty crow
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Very well, though I must state again there is a good chance I will drop out before 58 and just buy task skips

lusty crow
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Premier pass obtained, and now I at last have the knight gear and shield. Hopefully this will motivate me to continue

night stag
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Dress to impress

lusty crow
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Indeed

weary rose
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I'm at task 20 now. You guys are going too fast

night stag
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ill take 100m to slow down

lusty crow
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Now that I have the knight armor my motivation has decreased significantly

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I'll do a combination of task skips and relaxed skilling before March 20

weary rose
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I'm completely guessing here but will the new building be a guard outpost or something?

lusty crow
sleek oracle
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My guess is something along the lines of barracks / armory

lusty crow
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Having not eaten all day, I ordered a footlong sandwich from Subway and found myself unable to finish it

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It may be that twelve inches of sandwich is too much for most mortals

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This is entirely off topic but I felt the need to share this

weary rose
lusty crow
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I heard someone in here say (mind you, I don't know the source) that apparently Jagex didn't want to use the knight armor for fort guards because it looks too knightly

weary rose
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Hmm we just have to start our own knightly order then

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Call them Fort Knights

night stag
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i think that a barracks is likely.....

weary rose
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I mean there will be a murder at Glielinors own TexMex restaurant

lusty crow
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I'm going to flex on Duke Horacio; all he has is part-time volunteer farmers

lusty crow
sleek oracle
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Maybe a jail lol

lusty crow
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What would that do for us?

sleek oracle
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Something to hold our murderer

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Or a morgue

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Somewhere to store our victim

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For now

lusty crow
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A morgue could tie in to necromancy

sleek oracle
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I assume the necromancy building will come with necromancy

lusty crow
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Yes

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That seems a reasonable assumption

sleek oracle
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For a fort to defend Misthalin from the Zamorakians it has a distinct lack of any ability to do that

night stag
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tbh

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we kinda could use a restaurant.... or a pub....

sleek oracle
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Our true job of course is to be attacked instead of Varrock

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Pub imo is unlikely

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With jolly boar so close

night stag
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irrelevant

sleek oracle
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And yeah yeah scale theory or whatever

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But game wise

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It's right there

night stag
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thats 2 days journey by scale theory

lusty crow
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Not really

night stag
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2 months journey

lusty crow
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In the novels the Salve River is one day from Varrock

sleek oracle
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Also just a general lack of utility

night stag
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morale

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morale is 1/3 of how we make a ship sail

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ports says so

sleek oracle
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Though idk what reward space is really missing

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I'd say a bonfire

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Maybe a mess hall type thing

lusty crow
#

It's a psychological tactic

weary rose
gaunt oar
gaunt oar
lusty crow
#

The area east of Varrock has a number of small noble fiefs

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Our fort is actually perfectly placed

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Now we are the northernmost of these little holdings

bold quest
#

“I want you to build a fort to defend Misthalin”

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“Okay defend it with what army”

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“Idk make one”

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“Roald, what?”

flint solstice
#

"alright then"
"NOT LIKE THAT"

acoustic trout
#

He gets no room to complain, his "reward" is doing the manual labor of building my own fort for the specific puprose of acting as a sacrificial lamb to draw attention away from Varrock. I will not miss him if he is the one murdered...

tight cape
#

You guys are cruel, hot damn

lusty crow
#

I have succumbed

lusty crow
#

Questions about my new unlocked cosmetics (which all look fantastic)

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  1. Why is the spear called that when it's clearly a lance? We have at least one lance ingame, so it's not like the term is unheard of in RS
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  1. What on Guthix's green Gielinor is a "chakram"
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They can't just make up words

flint solstice
#

Chakram isn't made up

#

They're real weapons and we have crystal ones in game already

lusty crow
#

I do vaguely remember the crystal one being a thing now that you mention it

flint solstice
#

Thrown circular blades

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If rs went that route they'd probably be melee range hybrid

lusty crow
#

Well

#

It still seems out of place among the rest of the stuff

flint solstice
#

Like Greg's weapons

#

Finishing up my thought, not saying his weapons are out of place

lusty crow
#

I can see why the Forinthry royal knight set wouldn't be a good fit for random guards

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It feels like something a nobleman would wear into battle

hazy river
#

a chakram as a misthalin thing is a bit weird

lusty crow
neon rock
#

Give it time

#

soon we can behead them all

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I mean

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prove them wrong.

lusty crow
#

Robin Take 2, now with golden cane

sleek oracle
#

That second outfit is growing on me

#

I just wish it didn't have the fleur's

neon rock
#

yeah I removed the hat

#

I am going hatless duke

sleek oracle
#

Yeah I'm not a fan of most RuneScape hats

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Or head items period

lusty crow
#

You know, it occurred to me

#

There's room now for some interesting character moments with Ellamaria

#

We can like, bond

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Over the struggles of being of common background

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And now being elevated to such positions

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Where we are no doubt mercilessly judged by our new "peers"

gaunt oar
lusty crow
#

Ninja stars?

sleek oracle
#

Ellamaria strikes me less as woman of the people and more disdain for the place she came from

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Not that she couldn't become a more sympathetic character

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But I like her as the more ruthless side of Roald personally

neon rock
#

We can now discuss with Roald about how nuts his wife his and how terrifying she can be

sleek oracle
#

An entire quest where the nobility cower in mutual fear of Roalds wife

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I really don't think we should completely rule out Roald dying

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He's not my first guess

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But I think Roald or Horacio are very good narrative choices

lusty crow
#

He needs to sign the papers to make me a duke first

gaunt oar
# lusty crow Ninja stars?

Hmm, it worked more like a kunai (throwing knife) but looks more like a shuriken (i.e. spinning blade). While mostly used as a throwing weapon, Chakrams (and the smaller version, Chakri) could be used to fight hand-to-hand as well.

sleek oracle
#

Plus if it's Horacio we can get a necromancy quest and make Horacio a funeral cake

lusty crow
#

Everyone forgets the cake was a lie

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As revealed in the first subquest of RFD

sleek oracle
#

No dialogue because we can't risk her hearing us

spark anvil
sleek oracle
#

I think to me it's more that they're both notable while also not being particularly key to anything unresolved

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While also creating some semi interesting succession stories for the future

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Like if Roald does Ellamaria taking over I think has some very interesting potential

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Obviously if Horacio dies it goes to Meg and Lumbridge becomes Megtown

lusty crow
#

Meg is Horacio's long lost daughter

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We weren't told how Duchess Oriana died, were we?

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Maybe she died in childbirth

spark anvil
#

Just being key characters for existing storylines makes them excluded since the fort storyline is something you can do first, it makes having to replace those characters (or explain why they're randomly alive) a pain

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More likely are the unknown rulers of some towns, probably ones scaltheory'd away even

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The edge lord or whoever took over from count draynor are likelier choices for relating to ingame places

lusty crow
#

The baronet of Fort Blibberwock, a fort consisting of one house and a wooden barricade guarding the strategically important north Lumbridge cowfield

hazy river
#

on the other hand it would make it feel a bit cheap if it was just some random guy

sleek oracle
#

Yeah

hazy river
#

aka a Certified Brother Samwell Moment

sleek oracle
#

Maybe the thief's wife's dad

lusty crow
#

Unless we spend the first part of the quest getting to know the guy

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Like V

hazy river
#

V's death was cheap

sleek oracle
#

Isn't one of the thieves parents nobility?

hazy river
#

yeah

lusty crow
#

Yes

hazy river
#

the blonde one

lusty crow
#

Noble ran away with the thief breaking into her family's vault

sleek oracle
#

If their parent dies and they became a noble that'd be potentially interesting

lusty crow
#

Rather than enter an arranged marriage with a very boring nobleman

lusty crow
lusty crow
#

It would put a bit of a damper on the whole thievery thing

sleek oracle
#

Maybe someone from Family Crest

lusty crow
#

Ah, the Fitzharmons

hazy river
#

it could be the guy who gives you chaos gauntlents since theyre beyond dead content now

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🙂

sleek oracle
#

Could stick Sir Prysin in the new yak track armor

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And kill him

lusty crow
#

The new yak track armor has our crest on it

sleek oracle
#

Notable enough to go "oh yeah that guy" but not feel and about it

sleek oracle
#

Or ignorable

#

Maybe Roald tried to push him off on us

#

I really hope the knight outfit is the one they give us an umbral version of

lusty crow
#

This man is technically not wrong

night stag
#

@lusty crow u skipped!

lusty crow
#

I succumbed to temptation

#

But I always said it was going to happen

night stag
#

Twas inevitable

lusty crow
#

Indeed

night stag
#

17 days to qwest

lusty crow
#

I look forward to it

sleek oracle
#

I think I can get away with going to 68 and stopping

#

I do want the pet outfit there

#

But I can just buy the shoulder cape

lusty crow
#

I just bought the cape off the GE on Day 1

#

Before the prices rose

sleek oracle
#

Oof

#

Don't buy day 1 things

lusty crow
#

Oh, really?

#

Has it actually fallen?

night stag
lusty crow
#

There's no more unique cosmetics and pets

#

Only a tradable cape

#

I guess there's yak coins

night stag
#

thats 3 coins off of the golden detonate animation

lusty crow
#

How often do you use detonate?

#

16 Yakcoins for that is a ripoff

night stag
#

more often than i switch my outfit

hazy river
#

its pretty good with blast boots but yeah

#

i'd rather get one of the capes maybe

lusty crow
#

I used my Yakcoins to get all the pets, plus Hearty Rest from a previous yak track

#

Fight the Fatigue seemed conceptually tempting (is it supposed to be a sleeping bag?), but it looked like it might clip badly

sleek oracle
#

Yeah 68 is the last cosmetic

hazy river
#

well tbf if you like

sleek oracle
#

I usually use skips on the last 4 or so tasks anyway

hazy river
#

train any skill in the next 2 months you'll get that stuff + a bunch more yak coins

sleek oracle
#

I really don't play enough to hit that

#

Those last skill and kills are 100 a piece

night stag
#

100????

sleek oracle
#

Although the XP side of both are not bad

spark anvil
night stag
#

theyre 0

sleek oracle
#

575k hunter and 450k construction for 69/70

night stag
#

60

sleek oracle
#

Wiki is showing 100

#

Starting at task 66

night stag
#

wiki is showing 60 >.>

sleek oracle
#

Oh I meant the tasks

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Not the repeatable one

night stag
#

o

sleek oracle
#

I'll use my coins from the track for the 4 pet outfits

#

Then I'll buy the shoulder capes off the GE

#

Ability overide doesn't interest me

#

One thing they could do for me to improve the repeatable tasks is to have it be S&K or a randomly generated other task

#

I just don't enjoy S&K

spark anvil
# lusty crow

Actually, this asshole could be the one murdered, since I don't think he is in any quest despite being a noble

night stag
#

what if

#

ehh ive sorta suggested it before

#

but itll be clutterbuck or anette's father that is killed

#

and we have to prove that it wasnt annette or caelyn

lusty crow
#

And after he learns who you are he's quite excited to meet you and becomes very pleasant

#

He's only dismissive before he learns that you are a famous adventurer

lusty crow
spark anvil
#

So he only cares if we're famous? Still worthy of being offed

lusty crow
#

And how it's a pleasure to meet us

#

It doesn't feel like it's a fame thing

#

More genuine appreciation

spark anvil
#

Outside of him looking outdated being as a member of roalds court I think he'd be included at a function

spark anvil
tight cape
lusty crow
#

So I guess kind of

lusty crow
#

A lance is a spear designed to be used by a mounted warrior or cavalry soldier (lancer). In ancient and medieval warfare, it evolved into the leading weapon in cavalry charges, and was unsuited for throwing or for repeated thrusting, unlike similar weapons of the javelin and pike family typically used by infantry.

#

A javelin is a light spear designed primarily to be thrown, historically as a ranged weapon, but today predominantly for sport.

spark anvil
lusty crow
#

A pike is a very long thrusting spear formerly used in European warfare from the Late Middle Ages[1] and most of the early modern period, and were wielded by foot soldiers deployed in pike square formation, until it was largely replaced by bayonet-equipped muskets.

spark anvil
#

Then they're probably not involved

night stag
#

i dont see the correlation

spark anvil
#

We'd have no reason to trust them without that quest

night stag
#

#doubt

lusty crow
night stag
#

they trust us before that quest

spark anvil
#

Yeah because that quest wasn't part of a fresh start

tight cape
# lusty crow Hmm, but they have separate pages on Wikipedia

Well yeah there are different kinds of spear. The one from this yak track looks like it's inspired by a tournament lance, used for jousting. In real life you probably wouldn't see anything quite like that on an actual battlefield, they were designed to shatter and explode on impact. They were very much form over function since they were being used for a very showy sort of event

spark anvil
#

This quest is the equivalent of missing presumed death so we're gonna get everyone introduced again

lusty crow
spark anvil
#

Of azzanadra*

lusty crow
#

Ah yes

#

Disappointed that our chapel was not aligned to Azzanadra

weary rose
#

I plan to use my skips for the repeatable tasks at the end

lusty crow
#

I feel like I probably did a bad thing wasting my money on so many skips

bold quest
#

guys

#

i just bodied avernic in a debate

night stag
bold quest
#

look at my glorious star

spark anvil
#

Denn is the only debate you can win really the one where you call the demon a demon?

night stag
#

shit im at the point where the minimum ore for mining tasks is banite

flint solstice
#

that's still easy and afk

#

and usually sub 1 hour

#

afk in the jatizo boots 4 mine with the guy who one-click notes ore, or use porters with your juju + stone spirits, easy

night stag
#

still not as fast as orikalchite >.>

flint solstice
#

21% more health, but also less chance of wasted damage

#

and the noting guy is pretty sweet to save porters

spark anvil
#

not having 5k porters banked

night stag
#

okay so

#

CHALLENGES

#

do we think that the update Sponge is working on that involves Fort Guards is CHALLENGES

#

what even are CHALLENGES

round juniper
#

Wot

night stag
#

CHALLENGES

sleek oracle
#

I guess that's next on the list?

#

Maybe they're tied to the mystery building the quest gives

night stag
sleek oracle
#

I've expanded my guess to barracks / armory / mess hall type thing

#

Though you could do most of what I'd considered mess hall in barracks

night stag
#

maybe the building gives us like

#

+1/2/3 to the daily challenge system

sleek oracle
#

Idk

night stag
#

that would be kinda boring

sleek oracle
#

3 more free keys seems weird

hazy river
#

i honestly have a feeling that challenges is just a generic word they put in there

#

to cover for something that wasnt really finished in development yet

sleek oracle
#

I do hope though one of the buildings brings content with it vs improving access to existing content

flint solstice
#

the CHALLENGES of building the fort

#

THE CHALLENGE of finding rocks

#

The CHALLENGES of turning to bricks and walls!

lusty crow
#

Yeah challenges seems super generic

round juniper
#

reasoning:

#

it's coming with a murder mystery quest

#

the murderer will probably be poisoned by something and they'll call in an apothecary to identify the potion

#

and he'll huff and puff about needing a shop

weary rose
lusty crow
#

We get the Varrock apothecary and he gives everyone hair loss potion

undone geode
#

Inb4 it’s Sister Anna dressed as a Ripper Demon who is dressed as Duke Horacio

cunning briar
#

or is she?

lusty crow
#

Maybe the flights of Icyene really did carry her away

bold quest
night stag
#

Yeah in like April

lusty crow
#

Examine Guard: "Guards the fort."

gaunt oar
#

Terrible Take: The Guards are actually bodyguards for one of the nobles attending our dinner party: Once we solve the murder and everyone is allowed to leave, the guards leave along with their employer.

weary rose
#

yooo the pets on this trak can perform emotes

lusty crow
#

So

#

I have armor and robes

#

Both befitting a duke

#

Which do I want to make my regular Fashionscape as I go around the lands of Gielinor?

#

I could either go the route of

#
  1. Robes are standard, and the armor only comes out for battle
#
  1. Armor is standard, and the robes only come out when at home in the fort or at some noble function (like a banquet)
#

Any opinions?

dire stratus
#

Is the armour the FF armour? That's for guards, you're meant to be a Duke.

lusty crow
#

I don't think it's actually meant for the guards

#

This is second-hand hearsay, but someone in here said that apparently Jagex didn't want to give it to the fort guards because it's too knightly?

#

And it's after I obtained it that I realized it's kind of fancy

#

Feels like something a nobleman would wear into battle

gaunt oar
#

So it's mostly cloth-based for running around and skilling, but then it's got a bit of sturdy armor for protection up-top if I want to do combat, as well.

lusty crow
#

Oh, I was actually asking about the yak track sets specifically

#

I had made my own duke outfit before the yak track came out

#

But I've replaced it now

gaunt oar
#

For the current Yak Track, I would mix-match like this:

sleek oracle
#

I like that a lot

#

The first one*

#

Don't dislike that one either

#

I was playing around with some legs for the top

#

2 on the bottom right I think I prefer

lusty crow
#

Hmm

sleek oracle
#

The Zamorak anima core legs are surprisingly versatile

still edge
#

Well, some of them

#

I’m slightly surprised the Fort colour is red

#

It’s not an issue, like at all

#

Just given the enemies are Zamorakian I thought they might’ve used a dif colour

sleek oracle
#

I'm just so impressed that the waists line up

still edge
#

Yeah

acoustic trout
#

The best helmet for it is crunchy’s helmet unfortunately they never fixed the horrifying facial glitches in the text boxes that occur while wearing it.

#

Demon hunter stuff like the quiver and gloves go really nicely with it to.

still edge
#

There’s an unused Icyene reskin of that helm iirc

sleek oracle
#

Demon hunter matches a lot of stuff well

#

The helmet at least

#

They still haven't updated the GE /vault npc

still edge
#

I hope they use demon Hunter partly as a base to rework hide armour

acoustic trout
#

Ehhh it’s not scaly enough I think

sleek oracle
#

Yeah I'd agree it's not hide enough

#

I'm excited to see what remastered god/gilded armor looks like

acoustic trout
#

I’m not but only because I’m salty that it won over the neizot helm and crystal bow.

spark anvil
#

Those polls remind me how annoying the rs community can be, like I still don't get the anger over the new nezzy helm when it barely changed, like so many items were completely changed and yet the one looking mostly the same is the one people complain about...

lusty crow
weary rose
#

These pets from the Yak Trak are so cute

sleek oracle
#

If you buy the upgrade for 4 runecoins does it give you the base pet?

#

I assume it wouldn't?

#

I bought the upgrade for the cat I already took

weary rose
#

just the upgrade. still got to unlock the base

sleek oracle
#

Wonder who that is

ocean storm
#

No idea, but but I am excite for who it could be.

night stag
#

Do people really not think its roald?

sleek oracle
#

Roald was my first thought

#

But he's also wearing our sigil / knight armor

#

And also who else would be wearing a crown

gaunt oar
#

Anlaf or any of the other kings in game

hazy river
#

yeah him wearing armour with our sigil is weird

#

but maybe thats a mistake with the art

#

if he had that armour with like

#

yellow cloth with the varrock crossed swords

#

itd be fine

sleek oracle
#

Yeah

#

Honestly even if he has our crest it's not the end of the world

#

Just visually confusing

acoustic trout
#

Maybe it’s just a stand in for us?

lusty crow
#

It may well be

dire stratus
#

Do Dux wear crowns?

lusty crow
#

Dukes?

night stag
#

where is this crest

#

i must be blind

#

im not seeing it

lusty crow
# dire stratus Do Dux wear crowns?

In the United Kingdom, a peer wears the coronet on one occasion only: for a royal coronation, when it is worn along with coronation robes, equally standardised as a luxurious uniform.

In the peerages of the United Kingdom, the design of a coronet shows the rank of its owner, as in German, French and various other heraldic traditions. Dukes were the first individuals authorised to wear coronets. Marquesses acquired coronets in the 15th century, earls in the 16th and viscounts and barons in the 17th.

gaunt oar
night stag
#

this?????

#

discord is blocking other angles of the sleeve for being explicit

#

thanks discord

gaunt oar
#

Yeah, iirc that's where the crest on the new outfit is.

acoustic trout
#

Maybe it’s Rolad wearing our sigil as like…solidarity? Like the king wears our sigil as sign of recognizing the legitimacy of the duchy?

still edge
lusty crow
#

Wait for this to just be promotional art and Roald isn't even updated for the quest

night stag
#

we could always just.....

#

@white girder

acoustic trout
#

Tbh I think it’s most likely that this is just a stand in for us.

#

But it’s fun to imagine Roald get an update

#

And would have such a handsome bulb of a nose

sleek oracle
#

It feels like it might be proxy art for us?

night stag
#

i think ur all insane

lusty crow
lusty crow
night stag
#

that is so obviously roald to me

#

just as obvious as EGWD being in Camdozaal was

lusty crow
#

But you do agree that even if it is meant to be him, it's not an indication he'll actually be updated, right?

acoustic trout
#

Maybe avernic said we’re crazy cause I expressed a desire to just reach in and honk that nose. A desire to grab a big nose has been a thing I’ve dealt with since I was a kid, my father had one of the most massive noses in the world just begging to be honked. As a young boy I’d sometimes climb onto the bed with him in the weekend and wake him up to make me breakfast by honking his nose, it became a running joke.

ocean storm
#

Maybe it's a player stand in, or a fort forinthry usurper.

hazy river
#

its 100000000% roald

#

well

#

its 1000000000% not the player

#

its 100000000% roald and maybe like 5% its just some unknown guy

sleek oracle
#

It makes way more sense to be Roald yeah

#

Though that guy looksn much younger than I imagine Roald to be

lusty crow
sleek oracle
#

Don't have a specific age

#

But older than that

#

Probably 50s/60s

ocean storm
#

Wouldn't they have to revamp roald entirely though?

lusty crow
#

It's just art

#

Doesn't mean anything

lusty crow
sleek oracle
#

🤷‍♂️

hazy river
#

i would say just at a guess that he'd be

#

late 30s early 40s in 169?

sleek oracle
#

Whatever age he has a little bit more grey hair

hazy river
#

this is more or less speculation

sleek oracle
lusty crow
#

I want to say 34 as of 169

hazy river
#

we know he was king in 160

#

and i think if he had been like

sleek oracle
#

He just should be greying 😂

hazy river
#

a child king

#

we'd have heard about that

acoustic trout
#

Is it time for them to introduce a prince to Varrock?

sleek oracle
#

Between BOL/EGWD / His Wife

lusty crow
hazy river
#

that would've probably come up

lusty crow
#

His father was actually King Roald II

#

And the census doesn't clarify which Roald it means

hazy river
#

oh yeah true

acoustic trout
#

Roald doesn’t have any heirs right now right?

lusty crow
#

As far as we know

#

Unless he had one offscreen

hazy river
#

the closest known heir is a canoe guy who is roalds fourth cousin once removed

acoustic trout
#

Plot twist Roald is the murder victim and his next in line cousin is the top suspect.

hazy river
#

presumably somebody is slightly closer

lusty crow
#

I have come to this hypothesis after thought and conjecture derived from interpretation of sources

#

I have no proof of this

#

But it's not wholly arbitrary

white girder
# night stag we could always just.....

scrolls up
fails to spot the question

Is the question "Is King Roald updated in the Murder on the Border quest?"

No. Character artists were occupied with other parallel projects during this project's development. We're swapping in a newer outfit for Roald's incarnation in the quest, but his body remains consistent. (And as noted elsewhere, he had a bit of a touch up in River of Blood.)

Roald definitely hasn't been updated to look like that promotional art ingame. (Was a bit uncertain whether it was meant to be King Roald when it came from Creative Services, to be honest - they had a lot of detail to fill in, I guess.)

sleek oracle
#

So it is meant to be Roald?

white girder
#

I believe so.

lusty crow
#

A new outfit is something, at least

#

But only during the quest? Not his version in the palace?

white girder
#

Correct. We're not doing graphical updates elsewhere with this quest.

lusty crow
#

I see; that's a slight shame, but good to know

night stag
#

yeah question was "is that roald?" because i was saying it was roald and other people were like no thats not roald

acoustic trout
native vale
#

no

acoustic trout
#

Kay

native vale
#

that's "no we can't share" not "no definitely none are happening"

hazy river
#

that's what you WOULD say if nothing was happening

acoustic trout
#

I figured as much, your no’s tend to have a kind of…shut down feeling aura to them, stern maybe is the word. That’s not an insult or anything btw, I understand just you never know unless you ask.

native vale
#

yeah np, it was partly for stu's benefit

spark anvil
sleek oracle
#

@night stag

night stag
#

@sleek oracle

sleek oracle
night stag
#

yes.

#

it keeps getting better

acoustic trout
#

losing the Bilrach placemat feels like a net loss for me

#

Also we should have this king contrasted with the Burger King

bold quest
#

Wait

#

Am I missing something

#

Where is our sigil?

#

I don’t see it

#

I don’t see the king dude wearing it

round juniper
acoustic trout
#

You know thinking about it that artwork almost ALMOST make Mod Jack's "the armor was to fancy for guards" seem right, ALMOST but not quite.

bold quest
#

Oh

hazy river
#

to be honest in that rendition the fur looks a lot nicer

#

looks like its fur from the hands of an adorable otter or something rather than the travel worn raggedy polar bear lining the armour in game

night stag
#

50 tasks done

night stag
#

woah woah

#

i didnt realize after task 50 every other task gives a coin

#

this is great!

hazy river
#

i think by the time you get 70 you'll get enough yak coins to get another shoulder cape

night stag
#

its 21 coins 1-70

weary rose
#

I'm almost at 30 tasks myself

#

Using the agility ones to make some money

lusty crow
#

Crusader Kings 3's next DLC was revealed today

#

Reading the blog post

#

And

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Grand Tours see you assemble your entire court and set out to visit vassals in your realm - an activity commonly undertaken by medieval rulers. This is a way to assert your overlordship, while also enjoying the hospitality your vassals have to offer. There are various paths to take: Intimidation, Majesty, or Taxation, all affecting the rewards and opinions of your vassals. At its core, Tours are a tool for realm stability - and something a newly-ascended ruler should undertake quite early to avoid factions and revolts. You also get to choose between ways of approaching your vassals individually; you might want to tour the grounds, observe a cultural festival, or simply have a private dinner hosted for you.

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I can't believe Paradox ripped off of Jagex, smh

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As some of you managed to cleverly figure out, there’s also a brand-new regency system where we’ve made sure that it’s both interesting to have and to be a regent. Loyal regents help you by dutifully fulfilling their Mandates, and being the regent of your liege gives you opportunities to (with varying degrees of bloodshed) seize the throne for yourself, should you be doing a “good” job.

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ocean storm
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I'm loving all the fur lined stuff in the yak track btw.

weary rose
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Cosmetically the last few tracks have really hit what I like

night stag
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task 60 done

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idk why but this track is really workin for me

ocean storm
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I just want it to be over tbh. I'm pretty mentally done with it.

night stag
hazy river
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i hit 31 yesterday for the cool outfit so i'm just gonna let skill and kill do the rest while i do my normal stuff

night stag
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hey we're on the same task!

ocean storm
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Considering putting one of my banite ore div things from daily spins to work and seeing if that'll make it go any faster.

dire stratus
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I think my fav tasks are divination and mining

ocean storm
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div tasks are so free

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It's super nice.

dire stratus
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Mining I just buy half the task worth of stone spirits then hop over to banite

ocean storm
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I'm just happy to have an excuse to use them

flint solstice
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divine ore rocks use too much daily value to be useful

ocean storm
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loot from 1200 arch glacor kills

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I'm not going to use them otherwise.

hazy river
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yeah div is hyper free

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clues are but theres only like 1 clue task right

ocean storm
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I never do the daily div skilling loc thing.

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Clues are fun, because I tend to keep doing clues for a bit after the task as well

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Instead of dropping what I'm doing to move onto the next.

flint solstice
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you could also do most of the steps of a clue then stop and wait for a task to finish it

ocean storm
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Eh, I guess? But the fortunate comps are too nice to pass up on getting asap.

flint solstice
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I just do that kind of stuff for tasks that are S&K tier

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like if I'm not doing a task I do things that can prep for later

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like the digging portion of arch, or recharging my pitch can for FM tasks later

ocean storm
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Reminds me I pulled all my skilling dummies out their boxes for the slayer task at 61 and now I'm just filled with regret looking at the agility and thieving tasks coming up.

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I absentmindedly clicked take out all

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I guess I'm going back to pyramid plunder to hope for a sceptre of the gods/priff elves to hope for the last clan symbol I need for that amulet.

night stag
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crux eqal knights

ocean storm
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Or maybe I just kill and skill those?

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Ohh, I could do that too

night stag
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semi afk, 800k xp/hr

ocean storm
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Okay, wow, that div rock was really not worth it.

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Didn't use up any stone spirits, and only got about 7 ores out of it before it died.

weary rose
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Woodcutting tasks are my least favorite.

night stag
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Couple hours in the uncharted isles no biggie

flint solstice
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ones that support yew can be powered through AFK in the elven resource dungeon with a divine spot

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otherwise it's bamboo time

spark anvil
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Yeah they're really badly balanced, the time you spend making and using it is better used just regularly mining

cunning briar
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it's kind of hard to tell which blueprints I've already made

night stag
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yes

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but also

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why you not build them all already

weary rose
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quest means new building lets go

cunning briar
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I forgot