New Potion Flask (the jug)

[blazing lagoon]

Can you add a new type of flask.

This flask will need 12 doses of a potion into it. This will then let you "Guzzle" or "Chug" the potion for a 1 hour effect (whatever potion was added).

The current state of flasks is garbage. Just let us guzzle them for an hour long effect. There are too many types of potions we need to carry for content, its getting tedious.

[shell iris]

Just allow all potions to stack duration up to the same duration as perfect plus

[left vale]

this would pretty much makes potion reservoirs useless

[blazing lagoon]

potion reservoirs are already useless and suck

@shell iris trust me, i wish we could. But we have people like gatekeep downvoting, it's insane how many RS3 players downvote content that has literally no impact on them and is purely QOL

[left vale]

yes its gatekeep downvoting not at all downvoting because we just don't like the suggestion

2 potion reservoirs literally solves the whole issue you have but apparently they're "useless and suck"

you want a 1h potion? use 2 5 dose potions on 2 reservoirs and you have your hour

[blazing lagoon]

you didn't give a reason why the suggestion is bad, you gave a reason of "we have some other content no one uses

it's not even remotely the same

[left vale]

my reason on it being bad is that there are already items in the game that give similar effects

and a lot of people do use potion reservoirs, not sure where you're getting your stats from

[blazing lagoon]

Can i put a searing overload in a potion reservoir?

[left vale]

yes

[blazing lagoon]

does it last 1 hour?

[left vale]

it will last 6 minutes per dose you put in

so use 2 potion reservoirs and you have your 1h

[blazing lagoon]

you can't even use 2 reservoirs at once last i checked

[left vale]

im sure you can handle having to input one more action every 30 minutes rather than have the game devs create whole new items just to satisfy your afk laziness

[blazing lagoon]

and you couldn't put mixed flasks in them

so your wrong, now its a "satisfy your afk laziness"

there is room in the game for similar content that has a different usecases, we have more then 1 t70 stab weapon

[left vale]

yeah im totally lying

[blazing lagoon]

You are missing the point

also never called you a liar, gonna just end this here

[left vale]

Not really, you want the devs to create a whole new item because you think that the item that already exists in the game is useless and used by nobody when in fact a lot of the playerbase quite literally do use it for afkable content

Most of the PVME afk guides all use it, showing that it is useful, does get used, and is a very legitimate item for afking for extended periods of time. It just doesn't have the extra 24 minutes of potion that you so desperately desire

[blazing lagoon]

Brother your arguing against a point I didn't make

[left vale]

you literally said they're useless and suck

[left vale]

and that they're content "no one uses"

potion reservoirs literally fix the whole issue you're having

[blazing lagoon]

useless and suck does not mean no one uses, and you aren't really understanding my argument when i said that. I was exaggerating your point

hence the quotes, which i forgot to close

[left vale]

"we have some other content no one uses"

useless and suck doesnt mean it

but you literally stated that

[blazing lagoon]

"you gave a reason of "we have some other content no one uses""

YOU

you really don't read and make some great strawman arguments mate.

[left vale]

don't really see how you can interpret my statement saying that nobody else uses it when I know that people do in fact use them

dw though im definitely just gatekeep downvoting your idea, the item doesn't already pretty much exist in the game

[blazing lagoon]

I was exaggerating your reasoning of downvoting, you downvoted because potion reservoirs exist.

Thats like someone coming in and suggesting, hey lets have a new T70 weapon, and I say, no we have plenty of t70 weapons. You didn't downvote because you disliked the idea, you downvoted because you have some weird complex about how the game should run and in your head the potion reservoir is the only long lasting potion flask that is needed.

[left vale]

Yes, I dislike the idea because the item you're suggesting pretty much already exists in the game, just not to the full capacity that you desire

And yes, I'm sure if someone suggested a new t95 mage weapon a lot of people would disagree because of the existence of the FSOA

[blazing lagoon]

Thats fine

and that's a problem

Since you use reservoirs, can you use more then 1 at a time?

[left vale]

No, hence why I said you'd need to input one more action every 36 minutes

[blazing lagoon]

If I want to go do a trip do I have to fill up the reservoir in the middle of the boss?

[blazing lagoon]

Also this is not the only problem with that.

[late cipher]

nah, u just take another reservoir with u

[blazing lagoon]

Cool, lets be constructive here, I can stop attacking and explain the problems i see with that

I can think of a different problem.

Jagex is planning to increase the lobby timer, so afking not just PVM, will likely become even better for long periods. But wait. if we want to use a searing overload and another potion, lets say a prayer renewal, we still need to click that every 5 mins. (1 in the reservoir, 1 doesn't fit)

[left vale]

So you use an overload salve instead

[late cipher]

so for the combination potions (such as elder ovl salve) it would be a bit too op i guess

[left vale]

which provides the prayer regen and the antifire

[blazing lagoon]

Well those aren't the only potions, what about spirit attraction

[late cipher]

wiat? does that go in the reservoir?

[blazing lagoon]

don't think of the "use x instead" just think of the problem.... The problem is, we can only use 1 reservoir at a time

[left vale]

well if you're using a spirit attraction potion then the odds are that you're interacting with the game more than once every 6 minutes anyway

[blazing lagoon]

why?

and no?

if your using a spirit attraction its because you want to interact less and not click any sprites?

but don't think about the specifics, just think of any non existing combination of potions

What about venom? does that go in a salve?

[late cipher]

yup

[left vale]

yes

[late cipher]

basicly it's everything u need in a pot

[blazing lagoon]

is spirit attraction in it?

[late cipher]

[[ovl salve]]

[mint wyvern]

Links detected:
https://runescape.wiki/w/Overload_salve

[left vale]

no because spirit attraction isnt a combat potion

[blazing lagoon]

ok well then the issue still exists

[late cipher]

ur waaay overthinking this m8

[blazing lagoon]

how?

[late cipher]

u want EVERYTHING in just 1 pot

[blazing lagoon]

no

[late cipher]

that isnt gonna happen

[blazing lagoon]

I want everything in a pot that can last 1 hour, at the cost of doses

also not 1 pot

[late cipher]

so that makes basicly every pot

[blazing lagoon]

Imagine you get all your pots lined up, chug them all, perfect you have a 1 hour effect for the stuff you want. Pop aura. Take out more food or whatever other resources you need. Then go boss uninterrupted

[left vale]

which you can already literally do with reservoirs, except its every 36 mins instead of 1h

[late cipher]

so that's basicly drinking an elder ovl salve?

[blazing lagoon]

jesus

[late cipher]

this

well, that is if u can store elder ovl salve in them

im not quite sure it can

[left vale]

you can

[late cipher]

problem solved

[late cipher]

yikes, white?

how come no dark?

[left vale]

had it dark mode before

wiki never remembers preference for me so i cba changing it

[late cipher]

xD

fair point

[blazing lagoon]

look tbh, i don't think I can change your minds on this. I think I already explained the problems

[late cipher]

there is no problem tbh, just use the reservoirs if u wanna pvm, if u wanna skill use the reservoirs for the spirit attraction

[blazing lagoon]

Problem 1 : Refilling Potion reservoirs are clunky to use, especially during bosses
Problem 2 : If you want to use any other potion not on a salve, its clunky
Problem 3: If you want to afk when jagex eventually increases lobby timer, then you will always be restricted by whatever isn't on your reservoir.

[late cipher]

what other potion do u need if ur pvming other then everything inside the salve?

[left vale]

how are potion reservoirs clunky to use as well lmao

[late cipher]

i think because u cant use 2 lmao

[blazing lagoon]

i am just going to leave now, i already explained all these things

[left vale]

you really haven't

[blazing lagoon]

I have

[left vale]

so why are they clunky

they're not hard to use in bosses

[blazing lagoon]

Dude are you joking

[left vale]

dont bring up any interfaces

no

[blazing lagoon]

It's clunky not because its hard to use

[left vale]

thats why we both dont know why you think they're clunky

[blazing lagoon]

So tell me ok, how many inv slots do you need to take 60 minutes of salves to a boss

[left vale]

3

one more than without a reservoir

[blazing lagoon]

exactly

you figure out why its clunky now

im logging off before i see more messages

[late cipher]

lel

[left vale]

that doesn't make it "clunky" at all

it makes it less inventory space efficient

[late cipher]

u only need 2 right?

since they last 33,5 min each

[blazing lagoon]

no u need 3

thats why its clunky

obelix can explain it

[late cipher]

since he drinks it at 30 sec left

[left vale]

well you need 1 reservoir filled with a potion, one extra reservoir and one extra potion

but again

that isnt "clunky"

quite literally by definition

[blazing lagoon]

clunky adjective (AWKWARD)

awkward or badly done

[left vale]

yes it isn't awkward at all it just isn't efficient for inventory space

[blazing lagoon]

You don't think needing 50% more inv space is not clunky implementation.

[late cipher]

so? lemme ask this

[blazing lagoon]

Yes jero

ask away

[left vale]

No, because most content you'd be afking doesn't require literally every inventory space freed

[late cipher]

at what boss do u need 2 be like a whole hr?

[blazing lagoon]

This is part of the problem

go up to start of conv

read i t all

[late cipher]

i mean, sure, it's a nice qol

[blazing lagoon]

I am telling you a problem, why its clunky, you retort "well what specific bla bla, tell me exact use case, tell me exact this"

[late cipher]

but it's not needed in any way

[blazing lagoon]

I am telling you exactly the problem

You don't need an exact situation. Just imagine, and think through it logically

step by step my peeps

[late cipher]

if ur bossing, then u clearly look at ur screen

so?

[blazing lagoon]

omg

[late cipher]

i dont get it

[blazing lagoon]

stop plz

maybe obelix can explain, he started to get it after a while

he doesn't agree with me

[left vale]

No your idea is just bad

[blazing lagoon]

but I think he understands the problems now

i believe in him, he can do the step by step thinking

[left vale]

yeah but clearly you can't

[blazing lagoon]

why are you so aggressive? I am saying it nicely

I didn't say my idea is best idea. Its an attempt at something that is a problem. There is clearly room for something better

They have already added things in as well because reservoirs aren't 100% filling the need

Look at blessed flask or whatever its called

[left vale]

blessed flasks are for like 0.1% of the playerbase and aren't efficient for most players to use

also takes like 30h to make it

[blazing lagoon]

ok

[late cipher]

so what's the correlation between that and this "problem" cause u still need 2 click the blessed flask to use the extreme pray potion

[blazing lagoon]

I don't know what problem you refer to

[late cipher]

i mean sure it's 50 pots in 1 thing, so it's more inv management i can see that, but then again? at wich boss do u go through that much pray points

[blazing lagoon]

blessed flask is basically brought out by the problem of 1 trip needing to many pots (in my opinion, i don't know jagex logic)

So you have salves ok, but you then need prayer. Lots of prayer, because to run high level curses is draining. Imagine you need 4 inv spaces of just prayer potions.
This is basically 1 slot for the 4 .

Nothing automatic or anything like that, but just a inv save.

[late cipher]

this suggestion

nah, dude

[blazing lagoon]

oh well if you pop 1 hour of pots at start, you save 2 spots of inv

[late cipher]

or u can drink a 1 dose pot at at the beginning of every fight

and u have the same principle

[blazing lagoon]

you can, if you want to bank every fight?

[left vale]

why would you need to bank every fight

[blazing lagoon]

just going for jero logic

[late cipher]

reset cooldowns

[blazing lagoon]

yeh its fair, some people play like that

It's a fair point, thats one way of doing it. There is also the people who want to go for 1 hour and full aura, never move and click for 1 hour

i am just saying if you have options it will be nice. maybe someone can come up with a better suggestion for longer potion buffs

[late cipher]

so i do like the idea of having the golems perm @ wars, and u need 2 fill them with any kind of potions (so only cb pots) when u hitt them, u will have an hourly buff

[blazing lagoon]

golems? is that a different thread?

[late cipher]

nah

so the ovl golems they had on cb weeks

[blazing lagoon]

oh, never saw them i only came back kind of recent

[late cipher]

just put them there perm, but u have to fill them up

[blazing lagoon]

yeh see, thats pretty good

i think rare resources for expensive potion flasks is also good for other reasons that aren't as important

like thematically we already do the same for crystal flasks and red sandstone

both are capped and give great flasks for use in herblore/potion enhancing

idk. I think there is room for this, but my suggestion isn't the best.

I just posted for fun before i fall asleep

[late cipher]

xD

[blazing lagoon]

yeh xD i was typing a lot. get upset when people just say "no" without explaining why, but i guess i did a bad job explaining what we are still missing as well

so can i delete this? obviously need some more thought

[late cipher]

i mean, u can leave it open and come back to it any given time

when u think of something

[blazing lagoon]

too easy, gnight

[late cipher]

night night

[sudden plover]

To be fair you can't have multiple reservoirs with potions in them

[left vale]

yes but you never really need multiple reservoirs active at once

[sudden plover]

You do if you want potion effects from potions that can't be combined

Like if I want dragonfire protection and poison protection but don't want the rest of a salve

[left vale]

then you have to make the choice between using a salve or manually clicking once every 12 minutes for an antipoison

[sudden plover]

I know, I end up using a salve but that is a use case that this suggestion would give which isn't covered by reservoirs.

This suggestion would also lead to more wasted doses when people decide they're done with the activity before the 1 hour timer runs out which would have an effect of its own on the potion prices etc.

[left vale]

Yes but the only real reason to not use a salve over using the potions individually would be the cost of creating it, and since you waste 2 doses an hour with the suggestion then you're losing money unnecessarily either way

[short glade]

This sounds like a problem that can be solved by 1) making an upgraded potion reservoir with a boosted capacity (not something I'm necessarily against, we got a lot of things that go on hour timers anyway) and 2) allowing multiple reservoirs to go (don't know how/if this will affect balance).