Don't make TTK so much higher like Xdefiant

[arctic latch]

I dont even follow apex lore no more

Shit stopped making sense long ago

[split drum]

how was that off?

[royal marten]

never did

[lavish cloak]

that game has lore?

[royal marten]

viper was dead, outside his northstar, on top of a crashing ship on a planet

mf was not in his titan

[split drum]

remember how the planet blew the fuck up?

[royal marten]

mf was on the planet's surface

[split drum]

and like was shown to have pieces of it flying away from the rest of it?

[arctic latch]

Yeah

[royal marten]

it would be a stretch for him to fly into space

[royal marten]

yeah he still wasn't IN his fkn titan

apex lore is official fanfic and can suck my booty

not to mention a barely trained grunt taking out a cloak pilot

[arctic latch]

How about one legend literally being the trope of "touch radioactive shit and it gives you superpowers"

[split drum]

titan was still active, Protocol 3. that was before apex came out. don't think it was retconned

[royal marten]

how about one legend using a regen + speed stim that is getting damaged 💀

[royal marten]

we aren't talking a vanguard titan here

[split drum]

all titans have that protocol

[royal marten]

and the northstar would've very easily recognized that mf was dead

[lavish cloak]

didnt know a reload simulator had that much lore

[royal marten]

also still, timeline

[split drum]

doesn't actually matter

unless ownership is transfered

[royal marten]

i'm pretty sure last time i checked asspex and titanfall fell into the same universe but not timeline

it's some multiverse bs so respawn can get away with their cringy fanfic

[arctic latch]

Drugs bad for health = damage to body
Cant explain the regen best i can come up with is drugs have aftereffect that heals him or some shit

[split drum]

also, pretty sure the Valk blurb is wrong as everything else points to random rock where salvage teams found him

[split drum]

by timelime they just mean its much later, not alternate.

[royal marten]

no dates don't line up

for some characters the age doesn't either it's all really dumb

[split drum]

yeah ages are a bit off. but it still isn't an alternate timeline officially.

[royal marten]

yeah

officially

it's official fanfic

[split drum]

Not how that works lol

[royal marten]

star wars episode 7-9

same shit

it may be official to the canon but no one in the community who doesn't suck off disney or ea respects those things lol

[split drum]

yeah, until recently they were canon

fans don't decide whats canon or not.

[arctic latch]

You underestimate the power of imagination and a pen

[royal marten]

and corporate backing

[lilac lily]

TTK... No

[shadow warren]

Remove TTK completely.

[tiny light]

Tf

[tiny light]

Yeah 1 bullet die i agree with this

[shadow warren]

That’s a terrible idea

[tiny light]

Okay 1 bullet in head die and 2 bullet on except head die

[shadow warren]

No

[tiny light]

I think its more satisfying

Imo

[shadow warren]

You are wrong.

But anyway

Remove TTK

[arctic latch]

Remove TTK

[tiny light]

Remove TTK

[arctic latch]

Add homosexual relations

[shadow warren]

Now we’re getting somewhere

[final slate]

Add non-binary

[wheat wharf]

Gay
add binary i wanna program shit

[modest ibex]

Remove TTK

and legalize nuclear bombs

[royal marten]

add bisexual relations

[tall shadow]

let us cast spells

[frosty stream]

The.... The casuals... TTK.... Kill...

[royal marten]

TTK... guh... highest kills...

[supple owl]

y'all won't be happy till they make everything hitscan smh

[royal marten]

fuck hitscan all my homies hate hitscan

(kraber user here)

[ivory rivet]

were never getting hitscan anyway

[supple owl]

Sworce: Born too late for Quake

[lilac lily]

TTK... Save... Game

[arctic latch]

Shut up hams idc

[lilac lily]

Movement... TTK... One Frame... Reaction Time... Game... Saved

[tulip ivy]

✅ 122 save...game...okidoki...

[sharp gate]

add doors… game saved…

[lilac lily]

Add tactical... Sprint... Save game

[void lichen]

The longer range weapons (BRs and DMRs especially) will be absolutely useless if they get any longer on ttk.

They only work if you can kill the enemy before he gets close. With a longer take for the enemy to react and shelter, they will always escape and the guns are worthless.

Situational awareness is a thing.

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for folks to learn to move slower, get better cover, and strategize more rather than dickrush into a hail of lead.

[arctic latch]

This is just wrong lmao

Unless oki is planning on some whacky ass nerfs on both of them besides the ones that are generally coming for all weapons, this wont be the case

[arctic latch]

Yes it is a thing, except that the game doesnt exactly clue you in with adequate sound cues half of the time

Which is at least fixed next update

[royal marten]

good players still steam rolling people after the update

[slate sigil]

not really on BRs if they still have much more shorter ttk than assault rifles cuz most of the BRs are strong not just because they have longer range was also because they are good in close range too, not saying FAL this braindead stuff that having the top close range capabilities, and not saying their recoil maybe would be change too

[void lichen]

If you go the route they indicate, they're effectively just reducing dmg per round.

If you take a gun that requires only 3 shots to kill and change that to 4 shots to kill, that's a minimum change of +50% longer TTK (first shot of any automatic/semiauto has no chamber time, so to calculate TTK you remove the first shot from the equation).

So a 34+ dmg semi/auto gun (all BRs and DMRs) dropped to 33dmg or less per shot effectively gets utterly screwed, while lower dmg guns like the F2000 are far more capable of being altered via damage per shot without totally axing the concept as a whole.

Even if you leave DMRs/BRs as-is, there are also weapons of other categories in the +34dmg range like the AK5C, Groza, UMP, MG36, and all the heavy pistols.

I'd say "well, just alter recoil/fire rate/etc. instead of damage on those guns to compensate" but then you run into the issue of severely altering how the gun performs in combat (even a 10% decrease to fire rate would drastically increase the miss rate unless players are also reduced in movement speed, which itself would mess with balance across ALL weapons).

So that's right out as well.

Effectively, a significant number of guns gonna have to get HEAVILY nerfed one way or another to make the changes as they've been described.

[arctic latch]

I think you skipped the part where I said that all weapons are being nerfed next update

Like they are changing ALL weapons because they intent to increase TTK from average 250 to average 400 ms

[void lichen]

Lowering damage without upping mag size will have serious issues as well.

On the whole, the idea is a pretty bad one this late in the game.

That's the sort of massive direction change that takes place before alpha testing.

It's like if they changed Apex into an Arma clone one day, with nothing but a few announcements.

[arctic latch]

Mag sizes and magazine attachments in genereal will reworked to be useful
While some guns should have been perhaps a bit better handled, the TTK itself is not a massive change

[ivory rivet]

should be not will be

[cosmic topaz]

No the mag attachment stats are reworked

[supple owl]

This is all academic, heat-death of the universe will occur before update is released

[arctic latch]

I dont see a feasable way of making them worse

[supple owl]

Except quick-mag which is a straight upgrade with no dowbsides

[arctic latch]

Maybe they will give them some downside

Idk about those specifically

But extendos will be

They should be getting more ammo (notably for drums) and their stats will be much better

[supple owl]

Hopefully not a 15-20% move speed penalty like currently

[arctic latch]

Shouldnt be the case

Alledgedly, mags shouldnt be affecting recoil anymore in any way

Emphasis on alledgedly

And their penalties will be reduced

[ivory rivet]

looks at the last attachment rework

[dull cedar]

shut up

[ivory rivet]

did i mention

[frosty stream]

Its not "issues" its ✨ design ✨

[frosty stream]

No more free stats for you, time to min max

[tulip ivy]

bad design

[ivory rivet]

(theyre still free)

[frosty stream]

There is your M4 TTK, cry abuut it
https://youtu.be/-uYbx8Vw93E?si=42MH-Fj70v8d0bwc&t=276

[arctic latch]

Splendid job ox1

[royal marten]

dafuq is that pfp ox1

[frosty stream]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-fuck-friday-nerissa-ravencroft-nerissa-ravencroft-jailbird-gif-5160810781109030793

[royal marten]

yippie

[shadow warren]

This is a really helpful visualization. 400ms is still pretty damn fast.

I mean uh dead game the devs are going to kill it by making the ttk slower than apex legends we already have a game like that it’s called halo and nobody ever played it.

[modest ibex]

add friendly fire

gg

[arctic latch]

Omw to execute teammate (he walked out in front of my gun i swear)

[modest ibex]

he he he

we do a little trolling

[ember turret]

wtf

[ember turret]

the video lags

[ember turret]

actually fast time to kill will make it better for noobies to play - you die faster, but you kill faster (and noobies miss a lot, but eventually hit people)

[royal marten]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-pikachu-pokemon-shocked-gif-16985133

no one ever before fr fr

[shadow warren]

No wonder rainbow six and counterstrike are such easy to play beginner friendly games

[devout heart]

The average newbie is dying more than they're killing. Higher TTK doesn't change that per se but I would anticipate that it would lower the deaths per match. Fewer deaths per match is less frustration per match and now having "time to react" to being shot means they feel helpless less often. The portion of people who have purchased the game that fall into this category is significantly higher than the people who enjoy the current gunplay as is. Hence, the developers are making a business decision as to which customers they want.

Still, I think the changes are ass and so much of "operation overhaul" has zero appeal to me and I have very little hope that beyond this update they will make the kind of changes to mechanics that will keep me engaged.

[tulip ivy]

Actually I think so too. angles and knowledges are very important in those games, but when it comes to shooting, even newbie have a good chance of defeating advanced players

[lavish cloak]

rainbow six is 99,99% map knowledge ofc new players suck there

[tulip ivy]

Still, I think it's an easy game to play once you have the knowledge

imao games that required your aim are difficult to play

aim power is not something that can be learned quickly

[arctic latch]

Aim trainers:

[void lichen]

19 times out of 20, you'll NEVER get all shots on target when the target is anywhere near combat.

This means you need to at LEAST double (more realistically triple) the TTK to get an accurate depiction of what players will experience when they're moving around and playing normally.

Yes, every once in a while you'll be rounding a corner slowly ADS and some guy will pop up to your left or right and gun you.
You're not supposed to be able to twitch and gun him down when that happens, he got the initiative while you were locked into a slow movement, he EARNED the kill and deserves to get it virtually uncontested from you.

Just like if you looked away from him to run down a long hallway and didn't realize he was headed up behind you.

It's not fun, but it's fair.

What we're going to see (like with many games that do this sort of thing) is shit like a guy running past, you shoot him, he pops around while ADAD spamming, and he mows you down with a lower-aim-requirement weapon (IE, you're using an AK-15, he's using the Vector).

[frosty stream]

Yeah buddy, Sounds like a skill issue to me

[void lichen]

Average player's accuracy rating is 20% in a given shooter game, average top 1% players (pretty much the guys getting grandmaster in competitive matches) hang around 40-45% lifetime accuracy (excluding players who only use snipers, as there's a different data set for that, IIRC it's more like 35% avg and 80% top percentile players).

[frosty stream]

Yeah 20% because everyone shoots at any distance

If you see, you shoot

[void lichen]

Hey, I'm just telling you the info compiled by MUCH more intelligent people than either of us.

[frosty stream]

No. You are just spewing numbers with interpretation that fits your narrative

[void lichen]

"Average human reaction time is 250ms" -literally Oki doing what im doing

Call it what you will, but the facts don't lie

I'd say you're just ignoring the numbers that don't fit YOUR narrative.

[shadow warren]

Actually neither of your points are valid. You need to look at MY numbers and opinions.

Remove ttk

[frosty stream]

Like you say TTK should be assumed to be 2-3x higher based on LIFETIME accuracy. That doesn't make sense because lifetime accuracy includes ALL SHOTS regardless of distance or targets shot at.

Then you bring up "average top 1% players (pretty much the guys getting grandmaster in competitive matches) " which is a pathetic attempt to compare apples to oranges and call correlation

Oki brings up Reaction time because it is an essential component of an FPS game, not because it's just a cool number

Fucking idiot

[shadow warren]

It is also a cool number though

[frosty stream]

🔥 It does go increadibly hard thats true

@void lichen Don't go limp on me like that, come on with your expert numbers that prove your entire argument

[arctic latch]

This is the shittiest argument ive read in my life

My guy, players adapt to the bullshit that is thrown at them

Not only that half of the arguments here are literally boiling down to "B-but the new players will be mowed down by the good ones"

No shit that happens in every game

Like i said people adapt to the bullshit thrown at them, whether its TTK or something else entirely

People also, shockingly, dont encounter top 1% every fucking match

[sharp gate]

[arctic latch]

Honestly i wont prolong this much longer, point is that half of the people here use the argument of "players will have a worse time because ttk is longer" and act like its genuently going from cod like ttk to apex ttk or some shit (in reality its more akin to bf4 ttk) and for some reason think that your average joe cannot conciveably have a good time with the planned ttk

[lilac lily]

The game is DEAD because of these upcoming changes

[spare coral]

they will still complain because one guy is in their 24/7 conq lobby with 60 kills at the end

[sharp gate]

positive mindset James!!!

[slate sigil]

i think he even never ever try blind shot to any position that you only see where the bullets come from

or like shooting through smoke and try to get some hit

or shooting through bushes that you saw something move or heard something

and not talking the shots you make from heli miniguns

[slate sigil]

average human reaction time is needed to be considered in such massive multiplayer fps game as you are not just facing 5 or 6 enemies as in COD and Rainbow Six

and you need to considering different hitbox, weapons dmg, weapons gun handling, dmg drop off, accuracy etc

I'm not mention it once that bbr has bigger character hitbox, much more longer dmg drop off and higher weapon accuracy than battlefield(no obvious gun dispersion) , it would make no sense that it shares totally same or even lower ttk than battlefield

remember

you are not facing only 5 to 6 enemies, you are facing at least 32 enemies in a game

that means even with such map size(not saying the biggest map in bbr was still smaller than bf), you have higher chance to engage enemy than any fps game

that also mean there will be more camper you need to deal with

don't say newbie can camp pro so low ttk is good

newbie could camp

pro will camp better

because pro will always know the major route and firing position better than newbie

it just like those people crying they can't place claymore as much anymore

and saying this will just make pro better

but they didn't think about the situation that, you could place many claymore, pro could too, and could place it better and have higher chance to work

not giving any chance to you to counter fire when you get camp
or
you have any single possible to successful counter fire when you get camp

choose one

longer ttk give much more reaction time means new player could give react when they get shot and acknowledge what is actually happen

not quickly get killed and then: what? from where?

especially the death cam of this game sucks

[void lichen]

Have to agree on that, the death cam could easily be made better by just hovering it over the player's body at standing height.

This would also prevent two other issues:

1. Motion sickness some players experience (a friend refuses to play ever since beta just because of this making him physically ill when the body is regularly shot by enemies long after death).

2. The glitch where your camera is just below terrain allowing you to ping all the enemies now exposed due to being able to see them through the ground from below.
   (I'm guilty of using this last one on the occasions that it happens. One moment you can't see the enemies around the corner, the next you can ping all of them in the floor you died on and the floor below you.)

[lilac lily]

Omggggg the gaaaaame THE GAME IS FRICKIN DEAD AND THE UPDATE LOOKS ASS OMMGGGGG

[tulip ivy]

this game will be dying even if update are released

I'd be happier if BattleBit was absolutely dead

I discussed the changes to TTK a few weeks ago with players with an average of KD2-3 or more, and they were all concerned about the widening skill gap

[slate sigil]

we are not saying the skill gap will not be widening

Never ever say once

We only say widening skill gap along with longer reaction time would not be a bad idea

Especially on such massive multiplayer fps game and lots of maps are too wide open

[lilac lily]

Ask me about the changes to TTK I average 4 KD

Go ahead and ask

[ivory rivet]

when you playing fortnite

[final slate]

[frosty stream]

oh no, my instant TTK is now near instant, muh fucken skill gap

You are focussing your worry to the wrong thing, Fall-off is the real worrying topic

[hoary pine]

“Noted, we will turn the m4 into the peashooter from plants versus zombies in any mid-range engagement”

[ivory rivet]

always has been

[hoary pine]

Can’t disagree with that

[royal marten]

in a world were gun stats make sense (nearly every gun in bbr before "april" updoot)

[ivory rivet]

660rpm 416

[royal marten]

it's 825rpm though

[ivory rivet]

it used to be 660

[royal marten]

yes but it is 825, so very close to rl

[ivory rivet]

only took how long (i forgot when it got updated)

[royal marten]

i wasn't talking about ea launch or smth but this current bbr version we have

[royal marten]

half a year into ea?

[ivory rivet]

damn

[frosty stream]

16.9.2023

[hot cairn]

How come ~500ms is near instant lmao

Literally this game went from one of the fastest ttks to one of the slowest in fps games even at 0 meters, I'm not even gonna mention how tragic the falloff is gonna be

BF(1,4,V,2042), COD, XDefiant, Delta Force and many more will have faster ttks at this point

[frosty stream]

"one of the slowest" mf has not paladin or apex

New Baseline is 400ms

[hot cairn]

where battlebit has 254 players and this ttk will force you to die after 2 kills if you encounter more than 2 enemies

[hot cairn]

both are nowhere near to what battlebit is?

[frosty stream]

BBR is not "one of the slowest", there are significantly slower TTK games

[hot cairn]

idk, if m4 is 480ms then what can be faster than it? SMGs which after 5 meters will falloff to 600ms?

[frosty stream]

M4 is 400

Where are you getting your stuff from?

Somebody forgot BTK-1 from their calculations

[hot cairn]

dont remember i just saw someone calculating it

[hot cairn]

you gave a tps scaling hero shooter and battle royal with also tanky armour

[ivory rivet]

16.(2/3) damage moment

[hot cairn]

like nowhere near what battlebit is, and im talking fps shooters which play like battlebit, or at least close to it

[frosty stream]

That somebody can't TTK math or doesn't understand the difference between 16 and 16.67

[hot cairn]

you also add support's new hp to the mix and yeah

[hot cairn]

400ms for AR is still pretty bad

and im guessing it will falloff faster than you can imagine lol

[slate sigil]

ermm

actually

the dmg drop off was far more better than current

even over 200m the dmg is still more than third half

you can compare to current

just check this

[hot cairn]

and you do realise it will also do half the damage it does right now point blank?

[ivory rivet]

(severe lack of y axis notation)

[slate sigil]

of course, but it still only add 1 btk even over 150m

[hot cairn]

doesnt fix the closer range btk tho

[slate sigil]

why need to fix the closer range btk as other was increasing too

[hot cairn]

add spread to it and yeah good look poking someone with 8 damage

[slate sigil]

and don't forget

the scope visual recoil will be better

[frosty stream]

[hot cairn]

because every gun outside DMRs and sniper rifles is close to medium range?

[hot cairn]

also LMAOOO

[slate sigil]

And you need to consider characters factor

[hot cairn]

Spread, screen shake, mega shaky sight while shooting, vape barrel, deattaching bullets from centre of the screen to the reticle while ADS. Yeah, better

[slate sigil]

bbr characters has much more bigger hitbox than other fps game

[ivory rivet]

why isnt the curve linear smhsmhsmh

[frosty stream]

Just a moment

Have to boot up unity for this shit

[ivory rivet]

L

[frosty stream]

Blue OLD M4, Orange New M4

[ivory rivet]

i sleep

[arctic latch]

So it just takes like 6 bullets to kill at like 80ish meters

[frosty stream]

7 at 140m

[arctic latch]

Seems generally ok

[frosty stream]

M4 is fine

But the vector

[arctic latch]

Show me the vector

[slate sigil]

really to said, this is just normal AR combat range in game

[frosty stream]

[arctic latch]

Dear fucking christ

Damage falloff at merely 10 meters

[frosty stream]

+100m is impossible to kill with one mag if hitting all body shots

[wheat wharf]

40 BULLETS

[frosty stream]

At 100m

[wheat wharf]

Any skevo info?

[frosty stream]

[wheat wharf]

Sad

[arctic latch]

Clearly they have a balance fraud

[arctic latch]

Idk why "roblok" cracked me up

[worn ember]

what exact distance does the m4 become 7 btk?

thats like around 70m?

[frosty stream]

75m

[worn ember]

cool

[frosty stream]

8btk 151

[hot cairn]

And they even lowered it's RPM

Makes sense

[arctic latch]

Cant defend that

[worn ember]

thats pretty alr i guess

[frosty stream]

I know

I hate the Vector fall off

[worn ember]

vector on the other hand 💀

[ivory rivet]

why we still here no one reading this shit

[arctic latch]

We should ask truedevil to close this ngl

[lavish cloak]

just to suffer

[ivory rivet]

get on gravedigger fr

[frosty stream]

Why?

Oh wait this is the TTK one

Yeah do it

Make fall off one

[arctic latch]

You do it

You are the expert here

[frosty stream]

Prob should

[lilac lily]

Facts, shit looks ass

[final slate]

[arctic latch]

I agree that the vape barrel does look ass

But at least i'll be able to actually use the mid range scopes without vomiting

[ivory rivet]

Are you sure about that

[arctic latch]

No

[tulip ivy]

I don't understand why you're worried about the falloff when you're trying to slow down TTK

[shadow warren]

What?

Those two things are not intrinsically related

[tulip ivy]

In the first place, it is clear that when you try to lower the damage, the drop off damage is much more lower

[arctic latch]

Falloff is part of TTK

Even if the TTK is good, it can get fucked if my gun starts becoming a peashooter after it reaches 10 meters (new vector falloff)

Just look at the falloff chart for it

[tulip ivy]

And no one has ever calculated the TTK of the support. It is true that the HP is unknown, so it should not be possible to calculate, but assuming 135 HP, TTK is 0.5

[shadow warren]

What on earth are you talking about

[tulip ivy]

support or recon meta soon?

[lavish cloak]

recon

[arctic latch]

@frosty stream prove him wrong

When you arent sleeping

There is a chart for everything

[tall shadow]

so weird, back in the day seeing FPS games with ARs killing in more than 4 bullets was considered bad and spongy, now it seems ppl want to larp in games rather than feeling like actually shotting a gun lol, OG MW2 (2009) had ~100ms ttk, every gun was balanced pretty much cuz everything was op and yet it still wasnt a slow game, no tactical bullshit, just fun game with satisfying ttk 🤷‍♂️ hell, even melee was viable

[arctic latch]

Can we not compare BBR to COD

[split drum]

cod 2009 had a ttk of 250-300.

of course, much of the complaints was of ttk being too fast.

[hot cairn]

Well what can I say, people right now will find excuses to nerf anything if something annoys them

[split drum]

Ghosts had a ttk of 150- about iirc, and people hated it

[arctic latch]

Ghosts did have the fastest ttk

Out of like every cod game really

[split drum]

it wasn't all to different from cod 4

[split drum]

as I said. didn't know it was on par with mw3 and BO1 though.

[arctic latch]

Well i wasnt entirely wrong

Ghost did have fastest min TTK

[lilac lily]

What the frick?

But what about human reaction time?

Why didn't the COD Devs think about human reaction time

Reaction time of humans

[split drum]

notice how it gets higher and higher the newer the games are?

[devout heart]

The increase in TTK correlates with my lack of interest in the games. MW2019 was a return to form and it was great. Realistically though TTK was not the reason I stopped playing CODs after MW2

[ivory rivet]

Cry about it

[frosty stream]

135 hp seems rather much considering Oki stated support would take 1-2 more bullets to kill and with new damages I'd slap that HP at around 120-125 instead

[ivory rivet]

It should be 125

Anything else is unsurprising brain damage

[frosty stream]

100HP chart

120HP chart

125HP chart

[ivory rivet]

Hp bar was 25hp segments iirc so

Should bribe oki to copy grave/diggers hp system that'll be funny

[slate sigil]

I already say cod is the worst example used to compare BBR ttk

[slate sigil]

When you just about 6v6 why you need that much reaction time

You are not fighting against more than 50 or even more than 100 player in a large map

That's why reaction time doesn't that matter

If you want saying rising storm Vietnam ttk

Sure

If most of the player using iron sight yeah 1-2 bullet to kill are reasonable

And im not even saying character hitbox of bbr is much more bigger than those fps game

I'm repeat those thing so many times, never only look at weapon ttk stats, you need to combine mostly anything in game, including map design, character hitbox & overall mobility gun dmg drop off, gun handling, game mechanics (including healing method)

[stark flare]

and many of 1-2 shot kill game character are not moving fast(and do air strafe) like BBR

[final slate]

I bet unexperienced players will still suffer after the update, is not like they will have an increase in aim accuracy

Less bullets to kill would actually help them, since less bullets to guide

Who has more accuracy will still land shots, who has less accuracy will need more bullets to hit the target

[devout heart]

it will be a different kind of suffering, one that most players find less psychologically damaging.

[lilac lily]

Omggggg 400ms average holy 😭

[shadow warren]

I can’t even hold my breath for 400 milliseconds

That’s way too long

[sonic marlin]

dead chat like the game after the ttk change 🙂

[lavish cloak]

[royal marten]

^ what a sniper sees while trying to take a shot at someone

[tiny light]

"can yll just stay still"

[proper iris]

Can't unsee that shit

[arctic latch]

The TTK thread has truly lost sanity after this

[lilac lily]

Erm maybe we should talk about the REAL problem you guys... Velocity

[tulip ivy]

Don’t change topic please
I don’t want to lock this thread

[arctic latch]

Yeah we should talk about velocity

Thats the real issue

[lavish cloak]

we should talk about our lord and savior jesus crist

[arctic latch]

J. H. Christ is my man

[lilac lily]

This is you

That's me

[modest ibex]

i think they should do it

[tall shadow]

Jesus he knows me and he knows im right

🎵

[final slate]

[shadow warren]

Erm maybe we should talk about the REAL problem you guys... wild speculation about an unreleased update we have little to no information about.

[ivory rivet]

Erm

[spare coral]

i agree with the removal of the medic class because we all can self heal anyway

[modest ibex]

i agree with the removal of smgs, bc i'm suck

m110 my beloved

[sharp gate]

buff the m110

[modest ibex]

m110 oneshot kill 🔥

[sharp gate]

these sweats are killing me with their smgs from 30+ meters

absurd

nerf smgs!!

[modest ibex]

argh, i hate these sweaty smg medics movement abusers

remove medics and smgs

[final slate]

[slate sigil]

ermm.......medic can provide more bandage and healing is infinite, and revive faster

they already had the specific role

[spare coral]

in the update they are removing this class, thank god

i hate seeing those crackhead teens with no lives playing this game like trackmania zooming around with infinite hp

[slate sigil]

you better hate those that was inaction just sniping at behind but didn't kill much enemy

the real toxic play

[ivory rivet]

Seriously?

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknights-theresa-absolute-cinema-absolute-sinema-arknights-absolute-cinema-gif-5725006416369647831

[calm scaffold]

Next update assault have 70hp, so how about combine this role and medic ? With medic box rework as suggestion before, can heal allies and revive faster but self normal. A bit fall damege reduction is great

[ivory rivet]

[lilac lily]

Let's maybe hop on Kovaaks

[final slate]

[tropic escarp]

Me when I see medic mains...

[tiny light]

Any1 know how to get back to the top of the post?

[lavish cloak]

#1254463897851920445 message

[ivory rivet]

theres a jump to top button now 😭

on pc anyway

[arctic latch]

Mobile still sucks