#PTRD to engineer
loud vigil
loud vigil
from the features before rpg is faster projectile flight and longer range, but if you hold it in your hands you move slower, as well as increased scatter and shake in the scope if you are standing or sitting.
analog totem
14.5MM AT gun. would be fun as hell, one of those gimmick guns that you cant use unless prone or braced on something, but outputting a lot of HP and Light damage for a 4 bullet clip.
actually I got that wrong a PTRD is a 14.5 single shot AT gun, not the clip fed PTRS.
rapid hull
interesting facts I read when reading the wiki-page initially trying to figure out what this post was about.
PTRDs were used as recent of 2014
PTRS-41 rifles are still in use by Donbas militiamen in Ukraine, during the Russo-Ukrainian War, due to their ability to penetrate APC armor; The ammunition used is actual World War II vintage.
twilit meadow
I feel like people are just gonna use it as a one shot sniper
analog totem
over a dmr?
just give it irons and at most a 2x and that would limit it enough, especially since it would be a 1 shot only weapon.
sick tendon
since it's an anti vehicle gun it'd only need irons
nimble schooner
Give it to recon instead of engi.
Have a limit of like 20 shots with a really high resupply cost.
Have it as an alternative to c4 or claymores on a recon. If it’s on engi it needs to be an alternative to the rpgs
To reduce usage on infantry it should do the same damage as m200. It should not be a ohk on bodies.
analog totem
why would you give an AT rifle to recon?
make it a heavy gadget, at most you get 6+1 shots with it
nimble schooner
Sure I’d be fine with lest shots.
analog totem
I think a PTRS would be better, 4 round clips + 6 at the most? total of 10 which would make more sense with a direct use weapon with no AOE.
nimble schooner
Do +8 so you have 2 additional clips and not some odd amount.
analog totem
the problem with that
is that a gadget has a set "reserve" amount and 6 is the max
for heavy gadgets anyway, I think light might be 7?
rigid imp
This looks like a nice addition, but hear me out
Think about helicopters, and how easy it would be to destroy them with this
analog totem
other than the tail rotor, which at best would be a Direct impact since no AOE, this would do jack
especailly if its limited to 10 or less shots only from prone
where you gonna get an angle on a chopper while supported?
rigid imp
where you gonna get an angle on a chopper while supported?
That's not a problem:high elevation.
Players are very creative
rigid imp
other than the tail rotor, which at best would be a Direct impact since no AOE, ...
Depending on damage, it could be obnoxious to BH and deadly to LB, and if you want this to compete with HEAT, it needs a significant damage
analog totem
high elevation, but you can't aim up, or lean, or have more than 10 ammo.
at that point everything is just as deadly with "high elevation" being a "problem"
rigid imp
at that point everything is just as deadly with "high elevation" being a "proble...
I do see aboundance of verticality in this game as a problem, yes
analog totem
to be annoying but useless?
high elevation hardly means anything.
except making youself a target.
stray perch
i really dont know why you have not enough rpg projectile speed. you need bigger sniper rifle for engineer that penetrates armor? just take m200 as a sniper. or you want mega rifle that gives you insta kill or something.
analog totem
also, this is a massive fucking rifle, you will not be able to aim down at all, and only maybe 5 degrees up at best on a slow where you are angled up.
analog totem
i really dont know why you have not enough rpg projectile speed. you need bigger...
At-rifle =/= sniper
stray perch
guess he wants to kill the driver or something
analog totem
its literally just something different.
when we get US/NATO AT, most of them are just gonna be RPG but US/NATO
stray perch
yes, its gauss gun that penetrates and does almost no damage for the armor
stray perch
am from country who designed ptrd
analog totem
cool, means nothing.
stray perch
14.5 mm gun like standalone cord today
stray perch
and in ww2 it was double-personed standalone heavy tube where one person reloads, second person fires
oops dshk
analog totem
also 12.7
stray perch
nope
analog totem
12.7x108
analog totem
its use is modern, so why not. limited ammo as a gadget would mean limited use, and as an ALT for RPG
yes but this be video game, where things that are not quite so good/new/easy to use can be fun to use
would it replace RPG as a meta for Engy? likely not
but would be fun to have regardless, especially with the downsides we were thinking of.
stray perch
no, just dont favor similar weapons added. better to add 3 tubes with different params
like nlaw, carl gustav and single-use rocket
analog totem
you do realise that other similar shit is already going to be added right?
NLAW guided missle though? fat chance
stray perch
for me that 4 is different. one is less weight, second is could be reloaded with teamplay, and third one uses guided missiles
big sniper rifle that just a big sniper rifle for me like a mistake
old damn javalin too
analog totem
yeah sure, guided missles. totally gonna happen
single use rockets? totally going to happen
if rockets were secondary, maybe, but as a gadget with reserve ammo that would just be stupid
weight on gadgets is also not currently a thing
stray perch
in heroes and generals AT rockets is well balanced as - you personally can take heavy ATGM at the control point in the crate
analog totem
nobody is going to use something that requires teamplay in this game
hearoes and generals? you mean that game that became pay to win and killed its playerbase basically overnight?
totally a good example of good balancing and weapon additions.
stray perch
yes that game that present some ideas then failed
there was same problem with HE spam from rpg and every guy with RPG disabled tanks at all, same as in BB
analog totem
there was alot more problems than just that
stray perch
and they decide - you cannot spawn with rpg. you have to take one on the main base
analog totem
must have been new to it.
analog totem
and they decide - you cannot spawn with rpg. you have to take one on the main ba...
which did nothing, because that was the most used spawn anyway lol
you really must have joined really late in its life
stray perch
btw HH has tonns of tanks in each game, and less players. and the problem with rpg was a primary. there's every random guy could kill the tank if he wants
analog totem
that was more because of their shitty armor system
and deciding to use an HP system for tanks
and deciding that the AT items did a fuckton of HP damage.
which armor did nothign to fix, despite many games having fixed that
and they never changed the actual problem
so it never dissappeared.
stray perch
strange. i remember that you could hit tank from one missile or three, depends on the point of your hit
where's the hp in that idea - you could imagine
analog totem
tanks in HG had HP
that's why they died so quickly, because nothing was directional
or locational
you penned the lower front plate? dead tank. despite that really only being for transmissions, and not ammo/fuel/crew.
it sucked, and never got fixed
stray perch
if you say so. my thought about the armor is directional, and limitation of rpg shells, that solves in first rpg spam vs infantry and second - gives tanks more ttl. wanna extra effective weapon vs tanks - get control point and take ONE and now you have ONE chance. You could success. COULD.
analog totem
anyway, having alternates things that could be more fun to use is really a problem with you? if you want to be a meta hugger RPG ain't going anywhere.
rigid imp
also, this is a massive fucking rifle, you will not be able to aim down at all, ...
Assuming devs implement it properly. I can totally see it working just like every other sniper