Inertia

[pallid pilot]

"not a priority"

[sly monolith]

no sex update

[pallid pilot]

everyone suffers

[sly monolith]

everyone suffers

[hearty iron]

it’s just fucked all around

[pallid pilot]

billions must edge

[sly crest]

Idunno what you mean by that but have fun whatever you are doing 👍

[sharp portal]

Game could’ve pushed out constant updates if they hired and trained people fr fr

[dry kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-21975375

[sly monolith]

real af

[pallid pilot]

it would've taken 6 months to train someone!!!
6 months later

[hearty iron]

brainless

[pallid pilot]

wow guys so glad we didn't train someone we got so much content instead

[hearty iron]

disappointing really

[dry kelp]

bro winchestor spit it out already 🤣

[hearty iron]

📈📈📈

[proper kindle]

This is the future liberals want for exo armor

[sharp portal]

Real

[sly crest]

Real

[lament dove]

The undeserved rise and fall of battlebit remastered.

[sharp portal]

😭😭😭

[vast glacier]

I could be second nedgi but getting banned is not worth

[sharp portal]

Bro went on vacation for half a month as well

[sly monolith]

Right after the update that broke the game too

[pallid pilot]

game could be so much more but it chooses not to be

[sharp portal]

Self inflicted fr

[unborn kiln]

speaking of which, Decimal how goes that video you are working on?

[pallid pilot]

instead it makes community servers for a dead community

[sharp portal]

Been telling them to get more developers but oh well 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[pallid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-enemies-dog-butterfly-gif-7312308025622510390

[dry kelp]

what did he do tho

[lament dove]

Decimal ain’t making a vid he busy screwing with sum white girls in college

[sly crest]

Surely. . . .

[dry kelp]

why only white ? is he racist ?

[sly monolith]

Oki could of just got extra devs to do the busy work while they learned the codebase so he wouldn't have to take time away training them

[sharp portal]

They embarrassed him in tournament

He had to go into hiding (trust me)

[sly crest]

Decimid for a reason

[vast glacier]

Stuff like that @dry kelp

[lament dove]

Just the typical college experience 🤷‍♀️

[sharp portal]

Well attackdev asked if they wanna hire him but oki declined

He’s got experience with deobfuscating and modding the game

So he’s got some grasp on the codebase

(The helicopter vr guy)

[zealous sinew]

Imagine realising how shit your suggestion is that you are defaulting to this lmao. Dogshit player holy fuck just waaaa waaaa waaa all the time

[vast glacier]

[pallid pilot]

I came back in here for a reason but I forgot

[sly monolith]

no inertia

[pallid pilot]

anyways I'm convinced you guys enjoy the fight

I've figured it out

we use roulette voting to add inertia

[unborn kiln]

#1170730270492721253 message

OP's post on middle ground options

I put a A & B emoji for easier voting/such

[dry kelp]

yes why didn't you figure it out sooner 🤣

[peak axle]

Actually sad that it took you this long

[pallid pilot]

Nah I meant the casual side

some of the people here keep butting heads instead of actually bringing in people to vote

just talking heads

I mean cmon, there's def more than 200 people in this server

I think

[dry kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-11204209

thats devs and mods reading this

[peak axle]

[peak axle]

Literally anyone reading this

[pallid pilot]

Yea I mean the convo is a joke but the votes are an actual story

game is violently split

[peak axle]

This gets me through my first 4 periods of the day

[dry kelp]

Hopefully hardcore mode resolves it

[vast glacier]

@dreamy copper can you pin this message? #1170730270492721253 message

[dreamy copper]

No

[pallid pilot]

I mean in a similar vibe I hope BBOCE becomes its own thing

[vast glacier]

Ok

[dreamy copper]

There can only be 50 pins, I personally, try to keep them to important info

[pallid pilot]

Either way it's kinda clear that we can't keep both groups on the same island

[dry kelp]

even for boosted server ?

[dreamy copper]

Yup

[dry kelp]

kinda cheap move for discord

[vast glacier]

50pins for entire server?

[dreamy copper]

Yeah, people have been asking for more for years.. in a big server, like this, you could easily hit that 50 limit..

[unborn kiln]

I posted the options in Battlebit english

should hopefully get some extra opinions

[pallid pilot]

some split is needed in some form and that's what I'm pushing for

I mean do we really want to keep coming back to this and lose a player or 4000 every time it happens

well

"we"

[buoyant wren]

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-pizza-gif-6074641

Wtf happened in here?

[ebon ether]

shit's not just on fire

[icy bridge]

Honestly hardcore mode will make it a lot worse

Splitting the player base even further is not a good idea

[sleek gull]

was reading trhu this clown ass post and also found this

be gratefull you guys don't face vault users

bf4 may have no airstrafing but man some movement tech in there would make you cry

[ebon ether]

spoiler: it won't

[pallid pilot]

I mean I think that kinda adds to the convo right, I don't see as many people abusing movement in BF4 why is that?

Less reward, higher req?

[buoyant wren]

Skill probably

I think in BF4 there's certain techniques you need to learn to get crazy movement, its not just handed to you

[celest perch]

movement should be like QWOP

[clear hinge]

You just let go of sprint before you land or something idfr

[austere sierra]

you shoulda seen the videos i sent earlier

[buoyant wren]

oh yea, I remember now. You just let go of your directional keys and you can somewhat air strafe

[clear hinge]

"Somewhat" this looks the same as bbr

Yeah no mans pulling 180s

[pallid pilot]

Bro doesn't go nearly as far tho

Nor are the turns as sharp

[clear hinge]

They are as sharp

[pallid pilot]

It looks more like a whole u turn

Like being on sticks

[clear hinge]

I think i uninstall bf4 so 💀

[pallid pilot]

Real

Shit looks even more jank than battlebit

Fuckin vouzou

[clear hinge]

[pallid pilot]

Still

Diff movement,diff issue. It takes more effort, but it also takes you a shorter distance with the bonus of desynced models

Ergo it's rarer and it does less in open spaces

And if we want to go further, there's the convo of newer vs older battlefield, with 1 being very successful despite getting rid of these movement techs and slowing the game down

[runic solar]

whats movement

[buoyant wren]

although you can do that in BF4 I don't think it was intended

[ebon ether]

the stuff you do to get to the lb on wakistan

[tepid furnace]

this thread

📜

[buoyant wren]

[ebon ether]

📚

[tepid furnace]

How much free time yall have

[ebon ether]

just leave out a couple hours of sleep, it's that easy

[raw violet]

Three thousand messages guys

Keep it up

[dry kelp]

it does

[low lake]

i believe the people have spoken

we want inertia!

[sleek gull]

Uh no

[peak quest]

let's make the game even easier so I can finally hit a 1kd for once cuz all these damn sweats ruin my games by turning left and right

[peak axle]

can you please teach me how to get 1kd?

i need help because these sweats are ruining my games and CHEATING

[proper kindle]

just gotta start cheating yourself, smh is it really this hard

[peak axle]

Yes

[topaz needle]

gotta go on the counter offensive yk

[clear hinge]

Just slur em out they'll never see it coming

[pallid pilot]

funny and original

[faint lotus]

is this..... nedgi thread 2.0?
real?

[celest perch]

real

[pallid pilot]

it's a reckoning

[frigid shale]

Good evening

[vast glacier]

Nope

[sharp portal]

How was this obtained💀

Thought it was from patreon channel

[frigid shale]

Good spoke it to me in a dream

[worldly phoenix]

sounds like skill issue

[vast glacier]

Oki has skill issue

[worldly phoenix]

gonna be really funny when dead game because tryhards are actually a tiny fraction of any game's playerbsae

[frigid shale]

dawg

@proper kindle sorry but this is an incredible post

gotta give credit where due

thats a masterpice

[vast glacier]

That's funny

[proper kindle]

Im actually for inertia but I thought it`d be funny

[frigid shale]

l take but can be converted

what do you think ineria will add to this game that it needs rn

[proper kindle]

Just a lil bit of inertia

[sly crest]

Thank you good sir

[proper kindle]

The era of Bush posting has begun

[frigid shale]

Bro

these edits

are fucking incredible

good work gentlemen

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472407264700006420/970663764468842526/bossup.gif

[proper kindle]

I think the air 180s are a bit much, the 0 commitment to the direction your moving is a bit silly.

[worldly phoenix]

why do you hate skill!!1! this will literally kill game!21!2

(the skill: moving my mouse sideways)

[celest perch]

really annoys me when I'm trying to hit my 2km headshot when all the zoomers medics are jumping around in the air

[icy bridge]

If you wanna replace it with some other more skillful tech that would be fine. The only disagreement you would get from people is probably those who think it wont be implemented well

[worldly phoenix]

no I hate skill

8 year olds should be able to play BBR without a problem Oki said so

[icy bridge]

huh?

[worldly phoenix]

Facts only
#bbr-news message

anyway if I wanted to train a skill I would go learn an instrument or get another degree not spend my time "getting better" at off-brand roblox

[dry kelp]

well I don't think people will still be satisfied

[frigid shale]

I mean tbh I have the best stats in the game and work a full time job so what’s your excuse

[worldly phoenix]

I don't give enough of a shit

Also too lazy to move the router so I don't have to play on wifi XD

[icy bridge]

Why would you cite that message as a reason to add inertia?

Read the rest of it, the entire message is about how battlebit is supposed to be an arcady shooter

Also, just because its aimed at 8-25 year olds being able to play it does not mean that 8 year olds are supposed to be able to beable to reach the skill ceiling, they are just supposed to be able to play the game and have fun

That seems pretty consistent with the overall design philosophy that the game is fun and rewarding for as many play styles as possible (including people who want to be high skill)

[worldly phoenix]

You spawn, kill, die in 2-3 minute and spawn again.
That's like 10 orders of magnitude overestimating current average lifespans

[icy bridge]

Are you sure about that?

What are you basing that on?

[celest perch]

I think 8 year olds would be way better than some of the people I'll see in my games

[worldly phoenix]

Just take a look at the scoreboard and look at the number of deaths divided by game time

Most conq games don't go the full 30 minutes and anybody dying more than 10 times already has <3 min average lifespan

[icy bridge]

Which sections of the scoreboard do you look at when doing that calculation?

Exactly

It may be that the best players only live like 30 seconds on average and the majority live like 2-3 minutes, but thats fine. The whole point of the game is to cater to as many play styles as possible

[worldly phoenix]

Trying to please everyone is How to Fail at Pleasing Anyone At All 101

[icy bridge]

They did a pretty excellent job at launch. That was the biggest piece of positive feedback I have heard about the game, that it rewards so many different play styles.

[zealous sinew]

@sly crest @vast glacier never knew you played OW as well going 0-11 till last 5 seconds!! seems like your skill level

[sly crest]

Did you seriously get this pissed over people wanting basics of modern video game movement?

[zealous sinew]

its more cause u just complain and cry 24/7 instead of actually getting better. u sit in shooting range with L86 to make an incorrect spreadsheet

[sly crest]

Nah, you are just mad that people don't want instant 180 turns with 0 momentum loss

[zealous sinew]

so just shoot them!!! its a crazy concept

just shoot the person!

with your gun and bullets!!

[sly crest]

If 180 instant turns truly don't do shit, then you won't mind them loosing you speed

Cuz you know

Just aim

[zealous sinew]

they dont, cause i can actually aim lmao

[tame oriole]

they only work against bad players

[sly crest]

Which happens to be majority of the player base in general

[celest perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124759130683486258/1175150816039030814/gtbruh.mov?ex=656a2f7b&is=6557ba7b&hm=26aacd91c48037d4729d7fecaa623fe96af7d53e0c5ede982df6b5e8298d672e&

[zealous sinew]

if someone tries to movement in front of me i hit then 4-5 times and GG they are dead

[celest perch]

this is why we need inertia

[zealous sinew]

u gotta get on the aimlabs lmfaooo

[pallid pilot]

snakeman gear 4

[zealous sinew]

ur hip fire leaning and missing ur shots lmfao what xDDD

[oblique star]

misses every shot gg

[pallid pilot]

hipfiring is actually worth it idk man

[wooden pagoda]

I'm gonna lie the aim was insane on that clip 🗣️ 🔥 💯

[sly crest]

That sure required a lot of skill to pull off

[sly crest]

You do know that majority of players are casuals that just want to have fun instead of doing hours of aimlabs a day just to hit some dude having a seizure mid run

[pallid pilot]

real image of average battlebit players

[sly crest]

Like yall were laughing the game is loosing players like the ones leaving weren't the casuals that were just looking for fun, but instead were met with some dude doing instant turns at mach 5

[oblique star]

you are delusional

[meager vine]

lets go back to 1996 where we have doom aim

[zealous sinew]

so what do you do instead of accepting some people are better? you cry and complain for it to be changed to fit your playstyle!!!

[terse brook]

fairly sure the people doing movement like that are 1-3 people in a 254 ppl lobby

[oblique star]

surely

skilled people in game 🤯

[meager vine]

just give people aimbot at this point

[terse brook]

if those 1-3 people ruin the experiece for the rest of the 251 then i dont know

[meager vine]

[pallid pilot]

or you leave, which is a problem with the game like

[tame oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1119965283235405835.webp?size=48&name=Gromp1&quality=lossless gate

[oblique star]

cant have people with skill in my blocky game 😡

[pallid pilot]

insert pic of green line

[sly crest]

Skill? You mean having a seizure while running?

[glass roost]

MAKE ROBLOX GAME HAVE BUS SIZED HITBOXES ON CHARACTERS SINCE U KNOW THEY ARE ROBLOX XD

[acoustic plover]

So we change the movement just because people are somewhat good at dodging bullets 👍

[glass roost]

UMM ROBLOX BLOCKY GAME FOR KIDS NO ADULTS

[sly crest]

Sure you can have better aim, but your movement is on par with a guy having a seizure

[glass roost]

[lunar parcel]

Yeah, accurate strafes that allow you to escape dangerous situations is skill

[zealous sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOzscEyJ1y8&t=52s&ab_channel=MiaIsAFK here you go, maybe you can learn some from a vod review of gameplay!!!

[sly crest]

We add the basic inertia literally 99.99% of modern video games have.

[pallid pilot]

good music choice

[oblique star]

inertia will barely change shit

[meager vine]

the 99% of people that hate the inertia and are desperate for actual good shooter game

[sly crest]

Shift + W + Seizure is not skill lmao

[oblique star]

yall act like it will be a huge deal breaker

[acoustic plover]

Depends on how they implement it waa

[glass roost]

sure is, on cs u can dodge alot of bullets like that

[zealous sinew]

if you need more help with gameplay @sly crest i can help!!!

[glass roost]

thats skill bucko

[acoustic plover]

like it couldbe huge or it could barely be anything

[sly crest]

Have you played battlefield?

[acoustic plover]

Yes

[lunar parcel]

You sure you wanna claim that whilst being a complete null in this topic

[tame oriole]

add bhopping 🙏

[glass roost]

REAL

[zealous sinew]

yes, and i used the same movement i do in battlebit and still killed people doing the same lmao

[sly crest]

Then I think you have the basic concept of the inertia we are looking for

[oblique star]

fr

[meager vine]

nice so we gonna have battlefield with shit mechanics

[sly crest]

"Basic inertia"= Battlefield

[meager vine]

once again

[oblique star]

once a copy of a game always a copy of a game

game is game

[meager vine]

ur proving that u have zero knowledge of a concept of the games

once fucking again

[oblique star]

he made the attachment rework

he has no idea what he is doing we know

[meager vine]

people asked for one thing only

ONE

[sly crest]

Expand on what you mean?

[acoustic plover]

I just think it's stupid because right now we have the freedom with movement and people are starting to use it in a way to outplay people that are obv not that good in dealing with it and now we instantly limit it just because other games have it like what is that

[meager vine]

and ur turning around from the idea

[zealous sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTzh2F4gtsw&ab_channel=Jun0_0 i agree lets make gameplay look like this

[meager vine]

its like ur ignoring community and 180'd from it

[acoustic plover]

He could've easily killed him if he didn't q/e spam jump etc and just aim straight at him

[zealous sinew]

so shit plauers will still be shit

[lunar parcel]

The thing is, no inertia is why this game is unique, the fact that you can express yourself with movement is fairly fresh

[zealous sinew]

crazy how bf4 added this basic inertia and the shit players were still shit and could not aim still xD

[sly crest]

What community?

[glass roost]

REAL

[glass roost]

shit bait go next irl

[meager vine]

the dead one

[zealous sinew]

cause next u will be complaining about people breaking momentum and hitting a handbrake and u dying and complain and cry more

[meager vine]

that u killed

[sly crest]

Uh huh

[zealous sinew]

we can all agree ox1gen was useless in all the comp shit

[sly crest]

Your entire discord uses my sheets

[zealous sinew]

and its crazy how he didn't play for any teams i wonder why

[wooden pagoda]

no but guys the attachment rework was amazing!

[sly crest]

You even have a fucking !TTK in there

That links to my sheet

[zealous sinew]

you think any of us use it or the random blueberries who join to ask?

[meager vine]

sure

there was 1800 people that was chatting there

and people used it when they wanted to join the game

[zealous sinew]

yea but we used it religiously right

[meager vine]

i never used it because doing maths is the pointless thing

[buoyant wren]

nah, you guys were using it for your comp matches bro

[meager vine]

i never used it

[zealous sinew]

you mean you used it every second of the day!!!

[sly crest]

!ttk on Ethereal discord server

[pallid pilot]

remove light armor and light backpack 👍 game fixed and it'd be funny as fuck

[oblique star]

dude had an entire spreadsheet he made and still made attachments dogshit

[zealous sinew]

wtf leaking strats!!!!

[buoyant wren]

real

[meager vine]

i have better knowledge of balancing and actual ttk than math

[glass roost]

and make support fast asap

[pallid pilot]

we are all equal in the eyes of default kit

[wooden pagoda]

stroking your own dick for a command decimal made ages ago is wild

[zealous sinew]

dam no way ur blurring a vc thinking ur that important xD

[tame oriole]

lol

[oblique star]

scary shit

[radiant talon]

[buoyant wren]

damn, Mia really has it out for you bro

[sly crest]

I'm just saying yall literally have a command for my sheet

[pallid pilot]

Fuck it remove armor altogether game would be better for it

[buoyant wren]

[tame oriole]

🙏

[oblique star]

he talks about himself in the 3rd perspective ofc he would

[pallid pilot]

no exo, no light

just normal armor speed

[zealous sinew]

guys please dont leak what discord im in

[pallid pilot]

dumbass system

[meager vine]

because ur the only one that cared about doing something like that

im not a freak to spend my time on ttk sheet for someone

[exotic torrent]

just click on enemy and kill them

[sly crest]

OK and? Yall still have the command FOR MY SHEET

[hearty iron]

get a job

[wooden pagoda]

saying y'all as if it isn't one person that put the link

[boreal bough]

guys what's up

[hearty iron]

is what everyone is trying to say

[oblique star]

the sky

[boreal bough]

can we be more civil around here?

[lunar parcel]

I double decimal

[boreal bough]

facts

[zealous sinew]

no

[wooden pagoda]

I triple decimal

[hearty iron]

livingflore

[sly crest]

Lmao

[buoyant wren]

they be witch hunting my mans

[oblique star]

this is the inertia thread it is not civil

we have ALL the brainrot here

[meager vine]

if u want me to be civil than u can ban me ahead

[pallid pilot]

music so good I hit two clips thanks b

[boreal bough]

guys listen

[meager vine]

im done with this dogshit takes

[sly crest]

Yall really can't behave just because mfs want you to not do instant 180s

[zealous sinew]

not listening im reading

[boreal bough]

it's either you calm down or... dunno, i'm going to force calmness i guess

[pallid pilot]

I'm DONE with Battlebit Remastered

[zealous sinew]

this is the inertia thread

[pallid pilot]

and here's why

[jaunty ibex]

erm u cant do that

[pallid pilot]

#1: not enough men

[glass roost]

9 to 5 enjoyers cant handle people having skills

[meager vine]

guys calm down

[acoustic plover]

supress us 🙏

[zealous sinew]

silencing people who disagree with his dogshit takes??

[sly crest]

Shift + W + Seizure isn't skill

[wooden pagoda]

Guys let's calm down, we were really saying bad things : (

[glass roost]

dodging bullets is a skill wym

[zealous sinew]

inertia is gonna save the game!!! lets go guys!!!!

[glass roost]

its a video game not real life

[oblique star]

will defo save game trust

[lunar parcel]

Again, you don't know enough to claim that

[jaunty ibex]

@boreal bough how much u played battlebit if u dont mind me asking

[zealous sinew]

tournaments coming back to the game ran by ox1gen!!! on an excel spreadsheet

[glass roost]

and the favorite u guys like to point out "ITS A ROBLOX BLOCKY BLOCK LEGO GAME XDD"

[boreal bough]

something about 80 hours

[sly crest]

What

[pallid pilot]

Nah I'm tellin you just remove armor, put everyone at normal helmet/normal backpack/normal body speed

game saved

[boreal bough]

i usually play only when my friends up

[stable karma]

I don't know why this was locked but it's unlocked now. Be civil, we're all friends here :D
I won't be lenient if you make me come down here again

[oblique star]

gg

[hollow stirrup]

[glass roost]

i can breathe again

[tame oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/929544179930005514.webp?size=48&name=troll~1&quality=lossless

[glass roost]

thanks daddy

[pallid pilot]

Gg

[hollow stirrup]

[oblique star]

gg

[glass roost]

do we have a problem here

[hearty iron]

trial mods

[fickle badge]

[buoyant wren]

oh no

it's back

[zealous sinew]

lets go!!!!!!

[peak axle]

LETS GOOOOO

[zealous sinew]

i love you julgers

[peak axle]

Julgers best mod

[tame oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1158994117842456576.png?size=160&name=gromping

[jaunty ibex]

https://medal.tv/games/battlebit-remastered/clips/1n1mQIXnCZ5nuh/d1337UVbDl5E?invite=cr-MSxsbHUsMTg2NTg1NTMs

need intertia

@frank wren W clip btw

[zealous sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/nunu-and-willump-nunu-e-willump-nunu-willump-league-of-legends-gif-26480922

[hearty iron]

can we add intertia to the game ?

[peak axle]

Such good players against you😭

[oblique star]

can we add inertia to the game guys

[hearty iron]

RSN 🤣

[jaunty ibex]

@frank wren

[hollow stirrup]

Fortnite Battle Royale -16 remaining

[zealous sinew]

couldn’t even edge to this, I exploded immediately!!! Clean up on aisle MY PANTS 😂😂😂😂

[peak axle]

Will you go 6-18 in comp instead of 3-18?

[fickle badge]

can we add freddy fazbear skin maybe also

[hearty iron]

errm

[peak axle]

Mb 3-17

Didn’t mean to insult your skill

[glass roost]

pls

we need

[peak axle]

No we need suicide c4 skins

[zealous sinew]

9 remaining bro clutch up!!!

another win for the OG's

[fickle badge]

or give boomer aimassist to ppl that prove they are over 40

[sleek gull]

this is still going holy moly

[glass roost]

send these grandpas to arma 3 or insurgency or rising storm vietnam

[stable karma]

go shitpost somewhere else

#battlebit-eng

[glass roost]

let me and my chungus battlebit stay

[sleek gull]

wait this isn't a shitpost?

[oblique star]

inertia thread is a shitpost wdym

[tame oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-monkey-gif-21881306

[austere sierra]

it sadly isnt
but is at the same time

have no idea what goes on in jakubix's head

[worldly phoenix]

Because the games were full of noobs who were each trying to do their own thing and weren't kitted out with cringe stuff like flying C4, tandems, M200, etc. Then the SMG Medic meta got figured out and everything started going downhill from there.

[austere sierra]

cough
asval meta

[vast glacier]

Hello

I can show you

[sly crest]

SMG medic meta since playtests

[austere sierra]

please dont...

[vast glacier]

https://youtu.be/GnvPHkJT0Q4?si=bfL4gWcdTgwIFgT8

[vast glacier]

Now you know

@sly crest hello

[sly crest]

We are back

[peak axle]

Tandems cringe😭

[low lake]

making community server

only rule is no medic SMG meta

[peak axle]

Ok

I have something worse than medic smg

[grave brook]

||medic smg meta

[raw violet]

Are we still going?

[low lake]

I mean whats there left to say? It seems the community is split on inertia but the devs have stated that milsim mode will have some more hardcore vibes to movement.

[worldly phoenix]

dafuc is hardcore vibes

at what point did we lose the ability to speak without buzzwords

[worldly phoenix]

Imagine playing games just to chill your buddies 😱

[vast glacier]

It is vilaskis opinion

And he was saying about maps

[worldly phoenix]

He thinks all milsim is, is putting less trees tho 💀

[austere sierra]

boom thats all that needs to be done
keep casual as it is
and only add inertia in hardcore

you can find videos of hardcore on oki's channel

[lament dove]

LOOKIN LONELY HERE

[hazy estuary]

Vibes are feelings. They are inherently abstract and fuzzy. Sorry!

[peak axle]

Who let you in here

[misty sail]

Wiggling takes talent, im sure.

[oblique star]

aiming is hard i know

but you aint gotta announce the skill issue

[misty sail]

When they clip in and out of me, yeah

[oblique star]

thats a different issue entirely lol

inertia isnt going to fix people running into you

[misty sail]

Not entirely, the fact they can go so fast and just wiggle around me its impossible to track two frames of a person

[oblique star]

inertia only 'fixes' air movement

[austere sierra]

not even lol

[oblique star]

half of this so called problem i keep hearing

[austere sierra]

thats removing air strafing

different completely

[misty sail]

Yeah people walking towards me isn't the issue, its people flying around in circles

[oblique star]

thats what i said no?

[oblique star]

you would continue to bitch even if inertia was in the game

what you going to do, nerf movement speed?

[austere sierra]

well inertia doesnt 'fix" air movement

[misty sail]

You fail to provide a good argument.

[oblique star]

inertia isnt going to fix what you are looking for

people move on ground the same speed as in air 🤯

[austere sierra]

no inertia isnt even an issue
why fix something that isnt broken

[oblique star]

but they jump once oh boo hoo thats the issue

[misty sail]

It does though, the problem is the quick change in momentum, not the speed. Even on ground.

[oblique star]

people cant aim ig then feel the need to go on a rant

[misty sail]

Your arguing about jumping. I dont care about jumping.

[oblique star]

this thread is coming from the guy that reworked attachments btw so you know its golden

[oblique star]

.

you are arguing about jumping

[austere sierra]

just transition into a hipfire when they go in front of you (bullets out barrel)
if they go inside you ADS since bullets come outta your eyes at that point

[oblique star]

flying is the act of moving while midair

[oblique star]

no way are people complaining about that

[misty sail]

No, its the quick change in momentum. Doing that in the air is a problem, but it would be fixed in the ground too.

[austere sierra]

no im just saying
thats how you easily kill people bunnying around

[oblique star]

ah mb

heared people complaining that bullets come out of the scope earlier

[misty sail]

Wtf why

Thats just how games work

[austere sierra]

ah yeah i have too for headglitching
but overall non issue imo

[oblique star]

you are in the inertia thread

we like delusion here

[oblique star]

bullet go where i aim it

[misty sail]

Of course, of course.

[oblique star]

never had an issue

(aside from hitreg)

oki moment

[misty sail]

Anyways games like onward vr have bad problems with "jiggle peaking" which is frame fast corner peaking, similar problem here, just not with peaking.
Its solved with inertia, not speed reductions

[austere sierra]

btw
blow up a buildings walls
keep one layer of bricks at the bottom of the wall
then run and jump on that brick outside the building
180
and boom your on the 2nd floor

[oblique star]

i love spawning on a player and get tp'd to the top of the building

[misty sail]

Oh yeah thats hype

[oblique star]

quick change in momentum?

i dont see how that has relevance to inertia

[worn nebula]

If they add inertia can they also remove snipers please

And support

[oblique star]

and add fal to support

[worn nebula]

And assault

[oblique star]

nvm

[austere sierra]

and the maps!

[worn nebula]

Make medic the only class

Only firing range

[pallid pilot]

Why don't we have enemy collision anyways?

seems kinda

[oblique star]

thought there would be tbh

[austere sierra]

idk
i always thought we should have it

[worn nebula]

facts

[oblique star]

coming from tf2 yeah

[austere sierra]

community servers have it

[pallid pilot]

Hold on I'm gonna juuuuust

[misty sail]

Inertia is dirrectly effects momentum

[oblique star]

you are talking about the change in momentum

[austere sierra]

maybe thats the fix weve been needing all along xD

[misty sail]

Interia is just a momentum factor pretty much.

[oblique star]

acceleration is too fast?

[pallid pilot]

Go vote for enemy collision you little rascals

[misty sail]

The ability to cancel out motion super easily, yeah.

[sly crest]

You mean CHANGING air strafing?

[austere sierra]

stick to your guns and excel

[worn nebula]

[sly crest]

Play please present an argument, like none of the times you actually present anything

[worn nebula]

@austere sierra you better drop a disstrack on his ass

[sly crest]

You just try to argue by being louder yet you fail to actually say anything

[misty sail]

If someone gives up arguing me then i won and am right!!!!!

[austere sierra]

i mean ive already said my arguments before
at this point this suggestion is just a shitpost to me

[sly crest]

"Basic inertia found in majority of popular video games will kill this game in particular"

[austere sierra]

its like yeah why not remove part of battlebits messy identity
make it feel like every other bland shooter

[worn nebula]

im not up to date to all this shit

Why should they add inertia

[austere sierra]

its honestly just skill issue on people who cant shoot
thats all

[sly crest]

To not have dog shit movement which has no skill involved whatso ever

[austere sierra]

give everyone a gold star
type mentality

[worn nebula]

so uuuhhhh when they add inertia

[sly crest]

Is extremely useful compared to what it offers as downsides

[worn nebula]

Is it going to take skill to use movement?

[austere sierra]

oh yes why not ruin the fluent movement that everyone enjoys just cuz a few people who suck cry about it

[oblique star]

moment

thread coming from a guy with less than 100 hours ingame btw

[sly crest]

Its not going to be as brain dead AND effective

[worn nebula]

so we should all just play like a rock?

[oblique star]

mhm

gotta camp

[sly crest]

Nah

[oblique star]

embrace support playstyle

moving is banned

[austere sierra]

funny thing

[sly crest]

All im asking for is the standard inertia majority of video games have

[worn nebula]

They should add more movement penalty to support

Make them suffer

[oblique star]

slower ads speed also

[sly crest]

Like all you need to use the dog shit movement is running and having a stroke

[oblique star]

says the guy that cant aim 😔

[worn nebula]

why is it “dog shit movement “

[oblique star]

its dogshit because he says so

he isnt known for his good decisions

[worn nebula]

c4 them

they never see it coming

[misty sail]

Skill issue is not an arguement

[oblique star]

it absolutely is

[pallid pilot]

why the fuck is C4 so good anyways like yes more tools to aim less thank you oki I can now move with even less thought

[misty sail]

A bad one, maybe. But claiming 90 percent of people have skill issues is wrong

[oblique star]

isnt 90%

[misty sail]

Whatever you want to believe

[oblique star]

compare the upvotes to downvotes on this thread

is not 90%

[austere sierra]

we had inertia threads before
this is like the 4th to 5th one
alot of the people who voted in those old ones quit BBR got banned from the discord like sho
or just dont give 2 shits about the game anymore
all of those threads always had overwhelmingly negative reviews

hell one player even came back to shit on this thread

and now were gunna choose a thread made by someone who knew this was gunna turn into a shitpost

so the only people who really use this discord now
casuals/very few hardcore people

which would you rather appease
the casual who'll swap to another game next month
or the hardcore player who if they like the game will spend hours upon hours into the game

[oblique star]

preach it king

[misty sail]

Vocal minority vs quiet majority. Votes mean very little in the grand scheme of things.

[worn nebula]

idfk

[oblique star]

all explosives are strong in this game

lets nerf them also!

[worn nebula]

they should buff the sledgehammer

make it oneshot

head

[misty sail]

Only c4 buddy.

[pallid pilot]

haha but unironically tho

[austere sierra]

then again
i also grew up during socom PS2 era
where games actually had a sense of identity
this itself would remove BBR's identity the slight bit it has

[oblique star]

heat rpg

frag nades

you are delusional

[misty sail]

Not op.
Not op.

[austere sierra]

you dont make games to appeal to casuals

you make games to appeal to your fans

[oblique star]

by those means c4 isnt op

[misty sail]

Your the one using a slippery slop falacy as an argument

Its stupid

[austere sierra]

if you appeal to casuals
you get dogshit like COD or the recent BF

[oblique star]

you are the one with the terminal skill issue not being able to aim

[austere sierra]

which no one likes but people buy them cuz hey theyre friend has it

[oblique star]

then blaming inertia on acceleration?

inertia will not fix your issues

take it

accept it already

[misty sail]

More like apealing to expanding your fanbase, it doesn't work. Halo, cod, etc. I dont think it exactly correlates

[austere sierra]

but hey
battlebit isnt like that
not everyones friend has the game
nor likes the graphics
so its harder for people to give in and be like ahh fuck it ill buy it to play a few rounds with a friend

[misty sail]

You say that yet haven't explained the difference.

[austere sierra]

yeah

exactly

[pallid pilot]

C4 does more damage than those to both vehicles and players in the files

[oblique star]

excuse me

[worn nebula]

Ngl inertia will not stop good players from throwing explosive brick in to your face

[oblique star]

do you want to nerf movement speed on the ground next?

[austere sierra]

i should probably take a break since this is also stressing my lungs
which i should be healing right now xD

[misty sail]

And then same arguement which is stupid in the first place. You have nothing of substance to add

[oblique star]

people can turn too fast

[pallid pilot]

you also carry more for no penalty and they don't get grenade trophied

[oblique star]

limit dpi

[austere sierra]

yay collapsed lungs!

[unborn kiln]

slippery slope is not a fallacy by default, depends on facts & such brought up to support

[oblique star]

whenever i want daily brainrot i come to the inertia thread

[pallid pilot]

As far as things go, C4 is definitely the best primary gadget by miles, and best item in the game by an OK margin

[oblique star]

never disappoints

[oblique star]

yup

but am i outlandish for calling explosives strong in this game?

[pallid pilot]

and before you say it

oh nah

[worn nebula]

How do you guys not try to kil yourself while in this thread

[oblique star]

why was a grenade trophy added

[austere sierra]

dude that shit is so broken xD

[oblique star]

moment

[worn nebula]

Wakistan

[pallid pilot]

Grenades are strong af but you can make the utility nades like smoke or flash equally worth

[austere sierra]

only frags from what ik
doesnt do c4 or other nades

[pallid pilot]

RPG is RPG, very on the line

C4 thought

[misty sail]

But in this case, claiming nerfing one thing leads to wanting to nerf something else is definiton slippery slope

[oblique star]

waiting for molotovs

[pallid pilot]

you can NOT make a gadget that compares to C4

[oblique star]

buff impacts tbh that shit sucks ass

rollers are just better by miles

[pallid pilot]

without some absolutely whack oneshot infinite range bullshit

[misty sail]

Your excused?

[oblique star]

i mean yeah c4 best in slot absolutely

[oblique star]

took you a while to respond and you come up with that

gg

[misty sail]

I just got around to responding, but whatever

[oblique star]

anyways

stay on topic

[runic solar]

whats inertia and how do i install it

[pallid pilot]

Iunno I've got my personal nerf wishlist >:)

[misty sail]

Nerf waa

[unborn kiln]

being honest, I am up for seeing a little airborne inertia

[misty sail]

Me too

[unborn kiln]

I am also curious on the people who when no, what type of inertia they were thinking was suggested?

[oblique star]

lack of clarity speaks volumes as per usual

[misty sail]

Yeah ideas suck. Hate ideas.

[vast glacier]

@sly crest anything new?

[sly crest]

It requires no skill to use, yet the counter against it is skill dependent.

Zero inertia also has instant turns which majority of games dont have so the movement doesnt feel like shit to play against. (Modern COD has little inertia to prevent Running + Mouse spasm, but slides and other shit make the movement cancerous to play against)

[sly crest]

Not really

[worn nebula]

ok

[misty sail]

Good description of it

[worn nebula]

why if its no skill

Why not everyone use it

[misty sail]

Its not fun.

[unborn kiln]

suppose the question is why do people not always use the meta stuff

matters of taste,fun & other things

[misty sail]

Wiggling hurts my hand, more casuak gameplay is fun

I love zooming, just not Wiggling, Wiggling =/ flow

Flow is hype

[hazy estuary]

Adding inertia will also add all sorts of movement tech and (probably) destroy the current game's mobility.

To specifically kneecap wiggling:
It'd be better to add a "if you turn too often too fast, your turning speed gets a cap for a moment." It's the lean spam nerf + the limited turn rate of vehicles.

[unborn kiln]

destroy in which way is a question

Because destroy is a very, general word

[sly crest]

Instant turns at no cost shouldnt be a thing

[unborn kiln]

destroy the meta?

destroy a part of movement?

[hazy estuary]

I want the easy breakneck flow parkour. Inertia would likely destroy specifically that.

[worn nebula]

Idk about u but im having alot of fun running circles around support players

[unborn kiln]

etc

[old crag]

why not
roblox game anyway

[worn nebula]

Wrong tag

[old crag]

let people have their fun with the spinny spins

[worn nebula]

fuck

[sly crest]

Phantom forces has inertia to prevent Running + Mouse spasm

[hazy estuary]

And this. Fighting in CQC with wiggles vs wiggles is fun too.

[unborn kiln]

Again speed is a different question to inertia

[sly crest]

Though thats the only positive about its movement

[unborn kiln]

Not really a roblox game

[worn nebula]

phantom forces playerbase are 10 - 14 year olds

[old crag]

phantom forces has emp sliding and dolphin diving, would you want those instead?

[worn nebula]

Superjumping

[sly crest]

Refer to this message: #1170730270492721253 message

[oblique star]

cant wait for even more prone spam :D

[unborn kiln]

I'll be blunt, I feel a movement tech should be fun to both do & fight against as a average player

[sly crest]

Im just pointing out that a literal roblox game has inertia

[old crag]

my point is that bb movement makes it unique and fun, plus barely has any learning curve. in a game with low ttk i enjoy having a method to increase survivability.

[unborn kiln]

also krunker has inertia

the discord fps gacha

[austere sierra]

which makes it easier for casuals to get into

[unborn kiln]

Being honest I don't view BB movement as unique

I also don't see it as a large part of the game after a certain point

[austere sierra]

i mean look at COD
id say most would quit due to the broken movement there if it wasnt for having friends to play that game

/huge community

[sly crest]

I literally stated that modern COD is cancer because of the speed at which people turn

[austere sierra]

not even turning

[old crag]

inertia would be fine if it applied after a certain amount of turning. mostly i just want to do 180 degree building jumps

[sly crest]

Turning + Speed

[austere sierra]

the main issue is the amount of movement glitches you can do to fuck up your hitbox

which turning doesnt do and speed
but fucking around with a slide cancel prone jump will

and do you think any casual wants to learn that shit

no they want to hop into the game

if they can learn the movement in 15mins
who cares better for them

people will find ways to circumvent it
still dom lobbies
nothing will change besides making the game more bland

so better to have movement to where a casual can easily learn it and do what the pros can already do

[unborn kiln]

unsure on more bland

[sly crest]

0 Skill movement is countered by skill

[worn nebula]

whats the problem with that?

[austere sierra]

no just aiming lol

[unborn kiln]

Reason I am saying airborne inertia

[austere sierra]

which is honestly better than needing to learn strange asf movement tech like COD

[unborn kiln]

I feel the best middle ground here is enough to make doing a on the dime 360 spin not possible while not enough to prevent a basic building corner jump

[austere sierra]

do your X X YY A B LB 360 Y Y noscope to fucking turn a corner and hit someone

with your broken animation

[unborn kiln]

@old crag this sound good?

[austere sierra]

remember when i sent BF4 movement tech and you had no idea the game was so broken
yeah i remember
pepperidge farm remembers

[sly crest]

The problem is that, the movement requires no skill to abuse, but the answer against that no skill movement is a skill.

So a casual that plays videogames for fun, gets dunked on by a player that abuses movement. Yet if a casual tries to use that movement against a player that can aim, then that movement is worthless.

It only works against casuals

[unborn kiln]

interesting point

[sly crest]

You see the dynamic im trying to point out right?

[worn nebula]

buff casuals

[sly crest]

Its a one-way street

[hazy estuary]

Less skill required to evade death than skill to inflict death, means that the game's TTK is necessarily slower.
Better defensive options means more prolonged and variable engagements in this context.
Hurting the movement too much will result in a slower game, with less variable engagements and more fights depending purely on aim or positioning.

[old crag]

yeah well you can still spin the player, just not curve your movement any further than 360
i would be fine with that because you could still do spin jumps but not as fast

[unborn kiln]

also utility use and some others

[worn nebula]

So less skilled players lose from skilled players

Weird

[hazy estuary]

I want to wiggle in CQC. Let me dance with my opponent.
Just turn speed limit after wiggling too much would be fine pls.

[austere sierra]

not like that would still happen if inertia was added

[sly crest]

It would balance the dynamic

[austere sierra]

tryhards will always dom
atleast giving movement a low to no skill ceiling gives new players a chance to actually survive

[sly crest]

Didnt i just tell you that its a one-way street?

[hazy estuary]

Hey man, 1. it goes both ways 2. that's game design.
Do you think it'd be good if every game was Smash 64 with its frightening focus on offense? Can we have Brood War here with longer engagements and bigger defender's advantage?

[austere sierra]

they should already know how to aim/hit the guy in that circumstance in atleast 50 levels

and if you cant
clearly FPS games arent for you

hell your basically catering to the guys who go 5-40

[hazy estuary]

Whether offense or defense is easier can be a good thing. Not everything has to take the most skill or be mechanically deep or difficult.

[sly crest]

There have been multiple people here including yourself that say to "just get good" meaning that the movement only works against casuals

[austere sierra]

sometimes
thats just how it is

i mean if you play mario and you suck at a level

is the game gunna get easier for you?

no

[worn nebula]

why dont we give aimbot to casuals

[austere sierra]

you learn to ADAPT

fr

[sly crest]

There are people in many video games that are high or even max level, yet suck at the game

[austere sierra]

and hitscan snipers

[austere sierra]

and theres plenty in battlebit

example
you xD

[sly crest]

I have posted my stats here, i would say that im relatively above average by a mile

[old crag]

why is this whole movement thing such a big deal anyway

[sly crest]

Not to the level of ethereal, but good enough to go 100 kills with getting back to the game

[old crag]

i rarely see people do it

[hazy estuary]

There are multiple Mario games that do have an easy mode if you suck at a level tho LMAO. Nabbit and golden leaves and shit.

Not the best example you chose, but

[sly crest]

It is not good for the longevity of the game, casuals are either forced to adapt or move on, which require significant effort on their part compared to just playing another game

[hazy estuary]

idk man wiggling isn't so hard. Aiming and or patience are pretty simple things to learn

mfw inertia gets added and just increases the skill gap

[austere sierra]

thats all itll do xD

push casuals away

push the old players who quit away due to the game not feeling as fluent as it used it

itd only be for the brand new player

[sly crest]

Effort to reward ratio is too one sided and the movement only works against casuals, who are the majority of the video gaming community

[austere sierra]

which hey
battlebit already had its first impression on people months ago
so not that many new people to get

[sly crest]

Doesnt mean they wont come back and maybe check the game out.

If its just the same cancer they previously stopped playing, then they wont play it

[austere sierra]

and most people quit due to content
not movement lol

[hazy estuary]

TRUE.

[austere sierra]

fix something that doesnt need to be fixed
give EVERYONE A GOLD STAR

basically what this thread is

[hazy estuary]

If we want to hone in on THE MOST ABSURD CASE that does have regular complaint, it's wiggling out in the open reviving everyone and matrix dodging bullets.
And the solution is NOT adding inertia, which will have a host of knock-on effects and change the (tasty) flavor of BBR's smooth movement.
The solution is, "If you turn too often too fast, your turning speed gets a ramping cap." It's the lean spam nerf + the limited turn rate of vehicles. Surgical.

[sly crest]

That is also true, but that doesnt mean the movement has to be kept as a tool against casuals

[austere sierra]

the turn cap then also ruins alot of parkour spots where you could 180

[celest perch]

that would be so awful

[austere sierra]

casuals can easily learn it xD

its for casuals if anything
not against

[sly crest]

Yet it only works against them

[austere sierra]

what COD does is against

[hazy estuary]

Nah I'm talking about like if you go 720 within 3 seconds bro. Which is wiggling specifically.

[austere sierra]

making people circumvent it into a worse movement pushes casuals away

[sly crest]

Your previous arguments were "skill issue learn to aim". . . . .

[austere sierra]

thats legit what it is

[hazy estuary]

Two 360s (720) within 3-5 seconds will not limit any parkour.

[austere sierra]

but what about those COD style trickshots i wanna hit xD

[austere sierra]

crossmap YY double no scope xD

[proper kindle]

Im expecting royalties for my shitposts good sir

[hazy estuary]

Well, shit, good luck. If you need more that 2 360s to make an impressive shot you must be a good gamer.

[worn nebula]

Please save me from this hell hole

[sly crest]

Casuals play games to have fun, not to spend hours just to be able to hit brain dead movement that requires no skill nor has realistic costs to offset the reward to effort ratio

[austere sierra]

haha
im just remembering when i used to play COD as a kid

[austere sierra]

any casual can learn this movement within 15mins or a single youtube video

the only thing is aiming
which isnt that hard to figure out

specially if you snap

[hazy estuary]

Not many casuals can easily learn the spatial awareness to go 1v1 wiggling in CQC...!!!
Get disorientated, nerd.

[austere sierra]

now if this game was on CONSOLE
i could see the argument maybe
MAYBE

but due to controller

[sly crest]

Any casual can learn to up their DPI to counter other casuals, but they will still be stomped by that very same movement they can do by having a stroke

Everyone can do it, but not everyone can counter it

[austere sierra]

you can counter it tho xD

[sly crest]

Specifically the people who all can't counter it effectively are the casuals.

[austere sierra]

ive given examples millions of times

hipfire

comes out barrel

ADS

comes out eyes

you dont even need to use a single braincell to kill someone bunnying around

[austere sierra]

ok you know what he coulda done instead of the ADS there

hipfire

[austere sierra]

specially when using a fucking p90

[sly crest]

.

[austere sierra]

higher ground
harder to see/shoot
specially if they go into prone

[hazy estuary]

Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.

Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).

Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.

Shot 12: Likely didn't actually hit because the gamer was already dead.

[sly crest]

The problem is that, the movement requires no skill to abuse, but the answer against that no skill movement is a skill.

So a casual that plays video games for fun, gets dunked on by a player that abuses movement. Yet if a casual tries to use that movement against a player that can aim, then that movement is worthless.

It only works against casuals

[frank wren]

So you're wanting to nerf movement for skill reasons? Because it's difficult to shoot someone shuffling and it's easy to shuffle? Is this the entire arguement?

[austere sierra]

YES

[sly crest]

I fucking love that copy paste

[austere sierra]

ITS A FUCKING SKILL ISSUE ARGUMENT FROM THE START AHAHAH

reasons he should stick to excel and his guns

[sly crest]

Adding reasonable barriers to movement, which only works against the casual player base. (Inertia can be found in all major video games currently on the market)

[frank wren]

I really don't care about the skill issue part, if you can't hit someone shuffling it's a skill issue and if you don't realize that you should shuffle then it's also skill issue.

On the other hand, is the movement we have now appropriate for the game? Does it fit the vision? Heck if I know. Waste of time to debate it and let okis vision go to work *or at least lets see okis vision..

[austere sierra]

thank you!

[frank wren]

also mods you're welcome to ban me for saying skill issue, it's ok!!

[worn nebula]

you are the mod

[sly crest]

You see snoman, current movement is not a 2 way street, it specifically works ONLY against casuals

[worn nebula]

Uhhh the clip you showed isnt from a casual lol

[austere sierra]

explain how

when someone can easily learn it in 15mins or a youtube video

[frank wren]

I get what you're saying, but if we're only caring about skill expression then there's lots more that's fucked with the game than movement imo.

[sly crest]

The problem is that, the movement requires no skill to abuse, but the answer against that no skill movement is a skill.

So a casual that plays video games for fun, gets dunked on by a player that abuses movement. Yet if a casual tries to use that movement against a player that can aim, then that movement is worthless.

It only works against casuals

[hazy estuary]

"Because people with good aim aren't casuals."

[austere sierra]

unlike COD or BF where you need to fuck around with alot of binds to even get it right

casuals would spend more time on getting the right settings on COD than fucking battlebit

[frank wren]

you're average player = casual here, not always true though

[sly crest]

Which one specifically are you referring to?

[austere sierra]

ok vs me in COD when i know all the movement tech
and you dont

[frigid shale]

Why don’t you spend the same amount of time on every game?

[austere sierra]

they try learning the tech in one day
and vs me again

see how hard it is compared to BBR

anyone can learn this current movement system

[hazy estuary]

Gotta be the guy running over the rock in Basra. That guy seemed genuinely good at aiming but couldn't hit the wiggler who ran away.

[austere sierra]

each time you move the goal posts
its fucking annoying

[worn nebula]

This one

[frigid shale]

Clip? Tag???

[sly crest]

Wdym move the goal post?

[frank wren]

I've been enjoying apex lately, want to get slapped around in 1v1?

[austere sierra]

sure i wouldnt mind playing apex

[worn nebula]

Apex is a different type of cancer

[austere sierra]

give me a week to train and learn the movement

[hazy estuary]

This one @frigid shale

[frigid shale]

Damn whoever shooting you sucks 💀

[austere sierra]

unlike BBR where i can learn it within the time i play a single match

[hazy estuary]

^ oops

[worn nebula]

It will take your sanity

[austere sierra]

i used to play apex at release
i didnt mind it
just never got back to it when i moved to PC since i didnt have any of my data transfered over

i swapped around PC to console alot back then

[sly crest]

There are multiple shoooters and it is not my clip yet I have had similar experiences of getting away with nothing but current movement being ridiculous

[worn nebula]

it has changed a little

[austere sierra]

oh ive seen videos on movement tech there
alot different than when i was playing

[frank wren]

Also ox1, it's not like I'm pretty certain the movement we have now doesn't fit the game, there's definitely room to improve it. But at the same time I don't really trust them to make the movement good, and what we have now would end up being a hell of a lot better than what we'll end up with.

[frigid shale]

You got away with nothing, you revived your teammates and had the good fortune of your enemies being storm troopers

[austere sierra]

if anything
inertia/movement should only be touched in hardcore mode
not casual

i mean ffs
nerf reviving through walls at this point tho

[hazy estuary]

Wrong clip I'm pretty sure

[sly crest]

Getting away with my life and being able to continue fighting is quite a lot

[vast glacier]

Nah he had monkey movement thats why

[austere sierra]

since hey its against the casuals

[frigid shale]

Bro they just can’t fucking aim

This is the goofy shit

[hazy estuary]

I mean, I've gotten away in silly situations like this too, but I've ALSO stepped out and gotten fucked for trying to be cheeky with my movement.

[frigid shale]

You didn’t do anything

[austere sierra]

all he needed to do was hipfire

specially when the dude went proned
and using a p90

[sly crest]

So not rely on the aiming skill he has built so far ok

[austere sierra]

aiming is something that easily comes with time

movement people can learn it in a single match

[sly crest]

Yet the guy clearly wasn't able to kill him

[austere sierra]

cuz his aim was SHIT

[sly crest]

Even though he doesn't seem to be a casual

[frank wren]

If you could point to a movement system in another game that you would like to replicate, that would be helpful in understanding what you want ox1.

[hazy estuary]

The real issue is that he has wide FoV.
Wide FoV decreases aiming unless you pay 2 win and have a 1440p monitor.

[sly crest]

Basically what battlefield has

[vast glacier]

Bf and csgo tbh

[sly crest]

I have seen the tarkov shit, and don't feel like that garbage fits the game in any degree

[austere sierra]

your telling me someone with floaty ass mouse movement who probably has mouse accel on isnt a casual

[hazy estuary]

GOD, I do NOT want this game to be CSGO in its movement pace.

[austere sierra]

until you found out about broken BF4 tech lol

[sly crest]

I want it to be like battlefield without the buggy tech (thanks for requiring me to clarify that)

[hazy estuary]

BBR SHOULD have the arcadey speed of modern CoDs or this Unreal Tournament silliness we have now.

[worn nebula]

[vast glacier]

But It is not Scifi UT arena shooter

[austere sierra]

yeah people will still find ways to circumvent it
people will still dominate lobbies
changing movement changes nothing for the core game besides lowering the playerbase and being the final nail in the coffin

again

[hazy estuary]

wooooow

[frigid shale]

LFG

[austere sierra]

gold star for everyone type attitude

[vast glacier]

Better than doing nothing

[worn nebula]

Huh

[austere sierra]

why fix something that isnt broken

[hazy estuary]

Yeah but this isn't Terrorists vs Counterterrorists.
Man I'm sure we could find a bunch of examples of silly cool fast movement in a modern setting.

[austere sierra]

thats how you cause MORE issues

holy fuck

common sense 101

right out the door

[sly crest]

If people do find bugs in the movement, depending on the severity they optimistically would be patched.

Yes there will be people dominating games, but at least they aren't using movement that specifically works against most players.

[hazy estuary]

Yeah, adding inertia will have a LOT of knock-on effects.

[frank wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wtn36nyGrk I've watched this so many times. I'd be down for this shit in battlebit. Casuals come at me!

[vast glacier]

What issues for example

[austere sierra]

buT itS AgAiNsT CaSuAlS

[austere sierra]

fucking up movement to where the game gets review bombed to shit
look at fucking squad with the combat update ffs

again

this is common sense

why fix something thats not broken

you either end up breaking it

[sly crest]

That movement hasn't been patched because DICE doesn't care about older titles

[austere sierra]

or makinmg it worse

[austere sierra]

ok and we can say the same about COD?

that movements been there since the start of BF4

[sly crest]

Using extreme edge cases as an example against something found in every popular game

[austere sierra]

it was part of its identity tho very few know how to do it right

ffs play BF4 now

[sly crest]

COD is just cancer, COD is not an argument

[austere sierra]

any locker server

[austere sierra]

youll find those people

[hazy estuary]

Look, right, this JUST looks like inertia. He's just swoocing with inertia on the jumps.
If you keep the current speed of BBR and simply add inertia, it would be like this.

Please don't simply add inertia.

[austere sierra]

hell any BF4 server
youll find those people

locker is just full of them

[vast glacier]

Can you give real issues

[hazy estuary]

Hey man, to each their own. CoD is fine. CSGO is fine. I just want BBR to be BBR.

[sly crest]

Amount of casuals in those games?

[austere sierra]

all you do is invalidate no matter what
your honestly a joke in the community

[sly crest]

They moved on to newer titles

[frigid shale]

@frank wren

[vast glacier]

Because you have not answered my question.

[sly crest]

Uh huh, so attack against the person instead of the argument

[austere sierra]

you really dont use your eyes do ya...

[frank wren]

man don't do me like that

[austere sierra]

i mean thats what youve been doing the entire time
oh its skill issue invalidate it

[vast glacier]

You were talking about issues. So say them

[clear hinge]

L

[frank wren]

man heck this

[hazy estuary]

Ok but can you just attack CoD instead?
Muh CSGO and Muh Other Shooters All Have Inertia is an invalid argument.

[sly crest]

Movement that only exists to be used against casuals, which doesn't require skill, which doesn't cost you realistically anything etc etc is not healthy for a games longevity and only breeds more non-casuals that then get tired

[vast glacier]

@frank wren you look cute

[austere sierra]

you see the issues when they happen
i mean its common sense what may happen
but not 100%
holy shit

ok lets say inertia gets added
people cry about movement being fucking janky asf
game gets review bombed
RIP BBR

[austere sierra]

thats moreless the bigscreen way it could happen

but tons of other issues could happen which wed need to see live

[austere sierra]

holy fuck
people who dont know dont fix what isnt broken
absolutely break all their shit

[sly crest]

Modern COD movement abuse involves a lot of sliding into different directions somewhat mimicking the problem BBR has with 0 inertia.

Incredibly fast turns at incredibly high speeds at increadibly high volume

[austere sierra]

a player can learn that in 15mins

[frank wren]

I would also be much more inclined to encourage movement changes if they'd be playtested

*thoroughly