Famas - Feedback

[polar hornet]

Put your feedback on the Famas.

Please keep it on topic, and civil, we want serious feedback

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[supple warren]

Leave the Famas as is or make it worst, the only reason I use this gun is because it's hard.

🐴

[molten nacelle]

famas seems underpowered, its like a weaker MP7

mp7:

• 5 more rounds in magazine
• 50 RPM faster
• much lower vertical recoil
• 25 damage vs 24 damage start
• faster running speed

within 50 meters, the MP7 completely outclassses the famas

[fading hollow]

i dont like it way to weak...

[primal summit]

gun stats is fine i guess similar to an hk419 and g36c. feels like it needs a damage buff atleast 25 and probably a mag size of 30 instead of 25. feels like a weaker mp5.

[compact ibex]

agree as well, 30 rounds and 25 damage would make this a very lethal AR

[polar tree]

I think this would be ideal, or leave it as is but crank up the fire rate slightly to lean even more into its niche role.

[rough crag]

great gun, only thing I would suggest is make the heavy barrel available way earlier, 75-100 kills, with the long barrel(the better option of the two) remaining where it is.

Issue is famas is pretty junk without that extra damage, but great with it, however, almost 300 kills to get the gun at a point where it feels good to use is a bit much IMO

[dusty anvil]

The long barrel is what makes this gun so lethal. I have gotten melted on multiple games from a famas user up close and it almost feels as if I was just dead upon arrival. Seen plenty of people using the extended mag just to help in close combat. Other than CC I don't ever see this ever being used. The weapon itself is outclassed by many other strongers options both within the AR and SMG department.

[floral plover]

I think where they added PDW and a carbine to assault it kinda removed this weopons purpose as a kinda smg/assault rifle. It needs to just be redone to make it more of an assault rifle now.
like:
+a slight damage
+more ammo in the mag
+slight run speed decrease
+add damage against vehicles

[dense condor]

Gun is fine once you kit it with a extend mag. Probably needs a slight damage increase

[teal comet]

slight damage increase to 25/26, i feel like once the entire smg class gets its accuracy nerf, this gun will become more prominent

[long totem]

Increase mag to 30 and damage to 25, and decrease all SMG damage dropoff to 25-30m. There's no reason to use this gun when the MP7 exist.

[dense condor]

Exten mag is like 35 or something

[solemn kettle]

*famass 👍

[full plover]

On paper, gun sucks donkey dick. Especially when the MP7 exists. Small mag, low TTK, sometimes against armored targets, it feels like I am using a glock18 instead.
The gun requires LB to be competitive. Only saving grace is the handling of the gun which is pretty good for a 900 RPM weapon. However, needs a rework for sure.

[civic halo]

I think that the gun would be more interesting as a min-maxed weapon. Rising the ROF into the 1000+ category would be way more interesting like how they did in some FPS like BF3. Right now I don't really see the point of playing it (and I unlocked all attachments on it including the long barrel). The MP7 is just better in its niche with all fast reloading attachments equipped for me.

Maybe changing the damage range profile to match the SG550 while keeping current stats would be interesting too. So you have some sort of longer range capability but it's Imo less interesting than a min-maxed close range AR high DPS output gun I think

[rich stirrup]

Mid, wonder if bf4 ptsd was at play while balancing this 8)

[dense condor]

cries in AS VAL

[civic halo]

In BF4 it had some crazy long reload time tho

[rich stirrup]

Yea sure but nothing too mad

It still had the fastest ttk out of any medic gun

[civic halo]

It was a big drawback for me compared to the Bulldog honestly. The 25 rounds mag with a long reload time was just too much for me

[dense condor]

Oh god the bulldog...

[inner merlin]

This needs a nerf. It is like Vector in early days.

[haughty moat]

Why does everyone meme on the damn french!? The poor famas cant get a break in any damn game ever. T-T

[teal comet]

bro is tweaking

[haughty moat]

While the famas is a bullet hose. Its a bad one and needs to have its Stats looked over with a very fine micro scope. first shot recoil can be shit but that can stay, it however needs to get better weapon control threw its mag instead of worse. bullpup weapon control puts the recoil in your center of mass instead of out over your arms. It gets easier to blow the whole mag on a target not harder.

[inner merlin]

I feel like you give feedback based on the stats but did you actually invest the 200+ kills for the appropriate attachments and try it out? You melt people CQC.

[primal summit]

i think out of everyone who suggested stuff your the only one who thinks this gun needs a nerf.

[inner merlin]

this is no argument, especially with such a small sample size.

[haughty moat]

I think out of everyone who suggested stuff your the only one whos based.

[haughty moat]

I got 428 kills with the famas before EA I used it to sat my thurst for pain. It wasn't a great weapon not bad but not great. It needs some love its not supposed to be a CQC weapon its the french main assault rifle of its time.

[inner merlin]

you understand the latest patch makes it kind of broken right?

[haughty moat]

No. because the last time i used the famas unironically was after a squad of vector tards dominated a conquest game by litterally being as toxic as humanly possible, from that point on i grabbed the Scar H and told them to fuking die. -_- Famas is broken now? i doubt it.

[supple warren]

I only am agreeing with you because I want the gun to get harder to use. 🐴

[haughty moat]

another man hating on the damn french

[supple warren]

I don't hate the french! I just need a gun in the game that's harder to use than the rest I need my "Haha this gun is a shitter, lets get all the skins for it"

[inner merlin]

Well maybe play it instead of talking about some old memory of yours.

[haughty moat]

Mans making a meme gun out of the famas. Im ok with it. Lets start killing with a meme gun and spouting french slears at people.

[inner merlin]

I am not kidding it is insanely strong right now. I am playing FAL and I tell you in CQC the FAMAS is even stronger. Only Vector beats it I think

[haughty moat]

bruh im old as fuk I could have memorys of BF4 famas and missplace them in BBR. wait.. It was just as trash as it was in BF4 as it is in BBR now! 😱

[inner merlin]

I played CS 1.5 when it came out so I am not as young as you might think.

I learned FPS with Duke Nukem

[haughty moat]

Oh hmmm. the bots kinda snippy.

What every your right. older then wiser then I.

[floral plover]

use the starting DMR if you want that or go pistol only like the RSH12

[supple warren]

I think each catagory of weapon should have a shitter gun, and the famas should be the assualt rifle's shitter, because it's the FamASS

[sacred cargo]

24 damage and 25 round mag is really bad combo

[floral plover]

no they should.... but there needs to be some kinda positive trade off to use it

like this gun its kinda a smg/assault rifle baby while most other bad guns have no real reason to use them besides just being BAD

[haughty moat]

bullying the damn french again.

[teal comet]

feelsbad for the french when we are dumping on them in this thread 🤣

[haughty moat]

I pity the fools who made the Famas :[

[primal summit]

french people replaced the famas with hk416 as service rifles

[haughty moat]

Still was the French rifle. "Was"

[primal summit]

i mean if the gun cant have a buff irl why not give it a buff in game

[civic halo]

It still is

[proven karma]

I adore this gun, one of my favorite ARs in general. I have a couple of routes to provide for buffing the FAMAS.

• Buff damage + give Light Armor damage value.
• Lower recoil.
• Buff Run speed.
• Let it have more "spawn" mags.
• Buff Reload speed (yes, even faster).

DAMAGE + LIGHT ARMOR DAMAGE:
[ This would be the best route imo. Gun feels lacking in damage and also lacks light armor damage. I think light armor damage should be provided since FAMAS is an AR. I'd say around 3-5.

Damage should be buffed to 25. This would allow players to focus their builds on maximum recoil reduction, which would emphasize the FAMAS' better-than-average range stats in comparison to other "bullet-hoses". Higher damage would help a lot cause recoil is a big issue with competitive FAMAS builds, but I can see this becoming a horrid laser no one wants to fight. Take at your own discretion. ]

RECOIL:
[ If we don't like more damage, then I'd lower the horizontal recoil to either 0.80 or 0.90. Maybe reduce vertical recoil too. Not much more to say tbh. ]

RUN SPEED:
[ This definitely feels like the SMG AR hybrid, so this gun having lower-than-average running speed is weird. Buff it to 1.05 and now we're talking some good FAMAS business. ]

"SPAWN" MAGS:
[ Not sure what to call this, but there is a hidden stat that gives you more "default" mags on spawn. For example, an M4A1 will give you 4 mags on spawn with light armor, while Aug A3 gives you way more on spawn with light armor, something like 6-7 mags.

Since the FAMAS is super mag dumpy, giving it more "spawn" mags would be a big help and a stress reliever. ]

RELOAD SPEED:
[ I mainly want this cause it'd be really funny and enjoyable. Since this gun is meant to be the one-and-done gun, let's really sell that and give it a Godly reload time. I'd say buff it to 2.85 or 2.90. Reload faster than no one has reloaded before. ]

[hollow wyvern]

Got 700 kills with the famas, the gun feels strong and still controlable once you unlock long/heavy barrel. Bumping the damage to 25dmg would make other barrel options viable.

[patent peak]

I think I can support Team FAM ASS. It's not a bad gun once you get used to it. It's one of the more fun ARs in this game.

[worthy tinsel]

needs more damage it's pretty garbage rn

[patent peak]

up the base damage to at least 25 and reduce the reload time

[fiery aurora]

gun feels alright. maybe take damage to 25 and keep mag capacity low. and personally id like a model without the carry handle. FELIN FAMAS

[lime sapphire]

this gun takes 3 businessdays to kill someone

[patent peak]

now it's going to kill with same day shipping

[fiery aurora]

FAMASon prime

[patent peak]

hmm, I think I will use tactical barrel with b urk attachment and extended mag

more bullets and a decent reload time

[patent peak]

whats the ttk with 25/26 damage bullets?

same as 27 I am guessing?

[worthy tinsel]

gun is good now

[blissful gull]

3 round burst when

[lime sapphire]

the sight convergency doesnt match until 100meters

[raven vine]

Why is famas the only ar without light armor dmg?
Pls fix

[old fox]

Make a gun with a burst fire mode give it a mag that isn't divisible by 3. Peak French weapon design

[rustic kestrel]

i get that it's funny to shit on french people (because it is)

but it's actually really smart

it lets you know when you're out of ammo, because you won't shoot a full 3 round burst

[old fox]

Ik I was making I joke

Tbh it’s a cool design

[civic halo]

I mean the burst at least does reset unlike the M16 burst because the M16 might have a divisible by 3 mag but what if you do shoot some semi between bursts lol

[blissful gull]

It was added, but wasn't mentioned? Oo

Im confused

[proven karma]

I like this gun a lot, think it's way better than people give credit. Could use small buffs though.

FAMAS

• Light Vehicle damage increased from 0 to 2.
• Running speed increased from 1 to 1.025.
• Starting mag count increased by 1 mag.

[spiral dust]

I fucking love this weapon. That's all

[thorn galleon]

Famas h recoil buff was nice. It should get a slight movement buff or extra mag

[peak spindle]

My long-term feedback about FAMAS. This is my main weapon with over 9K kills. I survived all the buffs of famas but it's not enough. Seeing someone with famas in public is like seeing an unicorn.

FAMAS needs to be made more user-friendly:

• Increase the number of rounds to 30 - to confidently kill two people from one magazine.
• At least +2 magazines.
• remove the carry handle - it increases the distance between the barrel and the optics, which makes it impossible to fire from sharp angles or close to any objects. Almost in any combat, you are completely open compared to your opponent. Sometimes you aim for the head, being 5 meters away from the box, and still hit the box - it's annoying. A simple solution is to use the Felin(famas) model - like in BF4

• make the animation of the bolt charging during full reloading faster and more understandable, as there are often situations when you seem to be cocked but are not, and you face the opponent with a reload animation

• and last but not least -0.1 horizontal recoil, which will make this gun more solid at long distances

[worthy tinsel]

the carry handle is kinda the signature part of the gun

[peak spindle]

I agree with you that if you remove the carrying handle, this weapon will lose its unique look and charm. Then I propose to make the ADS faster, to overcome the limitations in the use of the environment to at least be faster in the first shot. I also reconsidered the size of the additional ammo. The final and minimum required buffs:

• 30 rounds
• +1 mag
• -0.1 horizontal recoil
• -0.03 ADS time

[thorn galleon]

For mag, just wear ranger vest. It gets rid of the penalties

[peak spindle]

and for extra ammos just use bigger mag - suggestion like this shows that you don`t have a clue about famas. I'm trying to fix it so that it can at least be used from the start.

[thorn galleon]

Got famas to bronze 🤷‍♂️. Only bad thing about it is the iron sight.

[worthy tinsel]

extended mag sucks bro

[thorn galleon]

To his comment, no one said to use extended mag. With 900 RoF, yes it's easy to overkill, but trigger control can net 3 kills still. The reload is so fast, you just need to duck out for a second and get back to shooting. Giving 30 rounds to make it newb friendly is just lowering skill cap.

It's like saying AsVal should get more ammo, which I would appreciate and make it easier to use, but I do fine with 20 and still top the board on occasions.