Sniper glint is just ridiculous.

[restive reef]

Have any of you tried playing as a sniper? It's impossible, you get get spotted right away, you have no incentive to provide recon to the rest of the team, and it's no fun.

Please remove the glint, or make it only effective within a certain range, this is insane.

[steel folio]

Use med range scopes. It’s for balance. Snipers can be frustrating as is and imagine not knowing where it’s coming from at all.

[thin herald]

Best you can do rn is spot with binos and then switch to sniper

Im not sure but I think in other games you can only see the glint if the sniper is aiming in your direction which doesnt seem to be the case here

[wanton flower]

Glints are the only reason I live half the time, and even then I still get capped because I'm too confident in myself to even ponder if the glint is staring right back at me.

This would be awesome for Snipers, but take a minute to think how playing against a team of snipers you cannot see would be.

Not very fun.

[restive reef]

They should just tone it down, it's retarded when you can get lasered at 100 meters by an m4 because they see this strobe light while you're concealed in a building, barely poking out your head. tbh, you're only getting killed if you're still for more than a second.

It's not fun to be taken out by every tard with a gun because they just light up a flood light for glint they see in a general direction.

[wanton flower]

There's not many ways to lower a glint besides making it smaller (which would be worse cause now the enemies get a perfect target for your head) or making it transparent, neither of which will do anything.

Also, (most) ARs cannot deal considerable damage beyond 200 meters, neither can they hit anything more than 75 meters away since the accuracy stat causes spread the longer they shoot.

The only instances you can get lasered by an AR is if they are close enough to deal good damage and kill you or if they take a long time tap firing, and tap fire range is most definitely a range you have the upper hand.

I would like to provide some help though, so I recommend trying to not stay scoped in for extended periods of time, which will naturally happen as you leave ADS to bolt or if you need to move.

The key is making your ADS' efficient, which is a nice skill ceiling for snipers as they would otherwise be one shot machines for people sitting 500+ meters away, which is not fun nor engaging for any party.

[chrome cloud]

providing recon (sniping random people 400m away)

[untold vale]

skill issue

[dawn orchid]

Skill issue.. literally just shoot them in the head it isnt hard

I play recon and do good

[rugged wigeon]

Glint is not that bad just don't stay in rifle range and use it like a true sniper

The moment they able to shoot back at you mean you too close already

And if you that close for a sniper rifle then it really easy to hs them

[restive reef]

Actually pound sand. No one asked you.

[dawn orchid]

dont ask for them to make a change just because youre bad at the game sorry

[restive reef]

Map design at the moment is not sniper friendly... at all, that kind of distance is just the standard. And to be honest, sniping beyond 150m requires someone to almost sit still to hit for a headshot.

There are exceptions of course.

[dawn orchid]

some maps you can get 1000+ m kills with the 40x scope

[restive reef]

If you get sniped from 400m, you just met either the best sniper in the game with a max range scope, or you were sitting still long enough for them to zero in and headshot you.

[dawn orchid]

https://medal.tv/games/battlebit-remastered/clips/1emXkYduZoZfvl/d1337Pm2Tbxe?invite=cr-MSw4SVAsNzA1NDI1NTks

starter sniper with starter scope

[restive reef]

*Touch grass.

[dawn orchid]

you when you cant admit you just suck at sniping and want the devs to make it easier for you

[restive reef]

Why can't you admit you have a gaming addiction problem?

[dawn orchid]

you got that out of me getting 3 sniper kills?\

[restive reef]

Clean your dirty chair, it's crusty.

[dawn orchid]

this is a huge cope

[restive reef]

Clean your mouse, it's got too much gamer gunk on it.

[dawn orchid]

biggest cope ive seen

[restive reef]

Throw away the collection of cans on your desk.

[dawn orchid]

i got one water bottle and some salty granola on it rn

[restive reef]

You flex your KD, but it'll never rival your BMI.

[dawn orchid]

wanna show where i flexed my kd

im in highschool bro i do highschool sports

do you think im fat and obese cuz i can hit 3 shots

https://tenor.com/view/k-keptax-fettsack-keptax-fat-peter-griffin-peter-griffin-gif-20203363

me after hitting 3 sniper shots in battlebit

[patent siren]

FATASS!!!!!

:3

[rose girder]

This discussion has gone off the rails it would seem

[dawn orchid]

they all do

ppl make post cuz they are bad at sum and then start getting mad

[restive reef]

Bro doesn't even have a degree? LOLZ

[dawn orchid]

no way youre bringing up having a degree

if youre a adult and acting like this thats just embarrassing man

[restive reef]

Says the child.

[dawn orchid]

says the one acting like a child...

[rose girder]

I don't really see how this is helping your case tbh

[dawn orchid]

bro brought up me having a degree or not

cant be real

.....

uh huh

youre professional

[patent siren]

duhh being professional doesn’t mean you gotta be smart lmaoo its all in the presentation

[dawn orchid]

true true

he isnt presenting it very well tho

[restive reef]

Can't be smart if you don't have a diploma.

[dawn orchid]

nice logic

[light herald]

Playing as sniper fine and playing against it is still fun, you're coping

[restive reef]

Just facts bro.

[dawn orchid]

sure bro

[patent siren]

bro you arguing with a high schooler and still manage to lose, just cut your losses bro

[dawn orchid]

so if you cant be smart without a diploma how do you get it in the first place

so funny when they try to act like a adult

im 17 btw

now what strange argument are you gonna say

[restive reef]

Kind of wondering how you're so underdeveloped mentally.

[dawn orchid]

uh huh

[patent siren]

why even entertain this kind of stupidity, he’ll tire himself out, try not to just clutter up the chat with a dumbass

[dawn orchid]

its fun to interact with ppl like this

[rose girder]

Eventually we're gonna circle back around into a conversation on sniper glint. I just know it.

[restive reef]

You're right.

[dawn orchid]

this entire thing is cuz i proved him how easy it was to just hit the shot

[patent siren]

sniper glint isn’t a problem imo

[dawn orchid]

fr

[patent siren]

no one gonna take the effort to try and shoot at them unless they’re counter sniping

[restive reef]

In my opinion, sniper glint could be adjusted. But some people are just incapable of acknowledging opinions without being a snarky cunt.

[rose girder]

Sniper glint is only a problem if you either

A) Sit on the most exposed position imaginable, or
B) Don't move from your spot after one or two shots.

[dawn orchid]

"you dont have a diploma nerd!"

[patent siren]

5 snipers or 122 people

they’re not doing much most the time

[patent siren]

solution

smoke nade

[dawn orchid]

it isnt hard to just move a few feet after each shot so someone cant easily line up a shot

[rose girder]

IMO sniper glint is one of the better mechanics game have included in a long while. I remember the old days when games largely didn't include it (or some other tell) and snipers were absolutely miserable to play against.

Bad Company 2 had some of the most obnoxious snipers in history.

[vocal needle]

I’d like to formally remind everyone here that feedback channels are for healthy discussions about the game, its development, and the Discord server. Toxic, rude, or completely out of pocket overly-disrespectful behavior toward other users will not be tolerated, and if the forum post is found to be getting misused, it will be closed and locked, subsequently causing further discussions about the topic to cease to take place. Off-topic discussions also do not belong in feedback posts.

[mellow root]

Toxic, rude, or completely out of pocket overly-disrespectful behavior toward other users will not be tolerated
...?

[rugged wigeon]

I don't think that map design is bad for sniper. It just you not find the right spots on each map yet. If you play sniper your job is to delay the enemy team by bleeding out their force.

Tbh near 100 hours in the game sniper glint never the problem when I use sniper

[sturdy storm]

bro really said "pound sand"

[scenic flame]

have you tried NOT hard scoping to look for targets, peeking/cover, or using range? The class does have binos for a reason too

[daring elm]

the only problem i have with the glint is that it shows trough trees and bushes miles away, i personally dont have to much of an issue with it bcs i dont hardscpe the whole time but i do agree that its quite poorly integrated into the game, i find myselve beaming snipers from 300 meters aways through a tree bcs i see the glint, almost feels like wallhack tbh its a bit odd and unfair to the casual sniper. although seeing a glint when you are in direct sight with the sniper is fine imo.

[restive reef]

I agree with this. It's just the glint is so bright too. I think it should be much dimmer.

[unreal shoal]

I agree you shouldn't be able to see it through tree. Otherwise its fine. If youre gonna be closeer than 200m to snipe you better be a movement player and hit those headies

[vague yacht]

maybe get a sniper degree

[austere vortex]

sniping is dumb af because i just get beamed at 200m+ by a dude with an AR just shooting at my glint.

Sniper glint shouldnt exist at all, period. Very rarely would a soldier actually be able to spot sniper glint. And since AR's are effective at realistic ranges, snipers should perform realistically as well. Sniper glint is dumb af.

[vernal charm]

You got beamed at 200+ by an AR ? Congrats to the guy using the AR.
If you don't like the glint use medium scope, that's the whole reason, you get "less range" visibility by medium scope but you don't have a glint.

[austere vortex]

Doesn't even matter because AR's perform better. They function quite literally as automatic sniper rifles. Not just once, I am regularily being beamed by people, at ranges of 200m+. They see glint. spray at glint, and im dead.

Unless there are massive maps and sniping is possible at 500m+ i dont see sniping being feasible in the least.

If you're using a medium scope you have to be closer right? because less zoom? Awesome. In that case i should just be using AR

[vernal charm]

I got sprayed at often but I may have died to it because I was like 10 HP left and got cocky. With an AR it take 4 body shots to kill you, beaming at you is the best way to secure a headshot as they are aiming down sight to hope dealing dome damage.

Medium scope has a "Lesser" zoom, on the first snipe, the second medium scope is basically a 6X, same as the your normal scope.

You may not have the ability to retain your breath for accurate shot, but you don't get a glint for it

[jagged imp]

the cope cuz of skill issues on feedback threads is just enormous

[vernal charm]

True

Ïmagine a world without glint, man the game would have been already dead

[past pollen]

i mean honestly ppl are saying the M4 can't deal with ranged but i keep throwing ACOG's and whatnot and going into semi and getting good engagements with snipers but without the glint it's like
Really super high damage weapon that would just let you dominate power positions on the map no problem
But also honestly super fucking easy to spot them and deal with them

[lunar totem]

Yea need a slight reduction but beside some the wack like trees it’s fine

[rugged wigeon]

AR at 200+ need like 6 or 7 shots to kill you. That full 1 or 2s if they tap and you stand still. You have all the time you need to hs them. Or just reposition.

[past pollen]

depends on where you're aiming but yeah it's not good but you can do it

[vernal charm]

Oh yeah i forgot that there is a damage reduction at 100 m~

[rugged wigeon]

Not to mention at that range all rifles take a lot of bullets to hit cause all rifles except Aug have terrible accuracy

If full auto at best like 4 or 5 bullets will hit with full 30 mag

That guys literally have all the time he needs to kill and yet still failed

[uneven mist]

You can see the sniper glint trough bushes and trees, should not be like that.

[slow spruce]

I don't think it should be removed but it really stands out even moreso than any other game that has glint.

[rugged wigeon]

Then that a noob sniper

He standing still too much

For me if I want to snipe I build a nest first

That leave you with really small open window to get shoted at and wiggle peak

If you get shot at but do nothing then that your fault

[austere vortex]

nah sniper is ass.

complete ass

i havent died to sniper yet while playing with an AR. Just join the 15 other dudes shooting at the glint. I figure most people give up on sniping before they unlock medium scopes.

[old bay]

Solution: stop playing sniper. Nobody wants you to anyway :D

[rugged wigeon]

I rarely die as a sniper. When I use sniper my death is like 10 for the whole game. I only die when get counter snipe or someone sneaks up my ass. Never die in a long range fight again AR

[bronze cradle]

none of this game has realism accounted for. sniper glint is used to balance snipers

[past pollen]

i mean honestly if anything the real fix to this would be to lower the amount of snipers allowed in a match

[bronze cradle]

that also wont happen

[past pollen]

I can only hope
Sick of seeing squads with like, 7/8 being snipers but hey, it's a Battlefield-esque game

[austere vortex]

we already have no shotguns. game is pretty boring if only ar, smg, and lmg. snipers not using medium scope get completely blasted

[visual escarp]

the gadget that makes fake sniper glint put it down in a cheeky spot to bait snipers then shoot said sniper its amazing at confusing people

[untold vale]

or cover you self in it and find a close spot to it cuz u can trick people lmao

[untold vale]

damn you really hate snipers

[rugged wigeon]

He just bad at it but refuse to admit it. There ton of old clips show people sniping just fine on youtube. And sniper literally got 0 change.

[sand lodge]

Either there isn't enough of you. Or you guys aren't doing your volunteering job well enough to be fair. You kind of let it happen. Each time there's a feedback or suggestion you let it happen. Because Git Gud or Skill issue is technically non-toxic in your vocabulary. Yet it's unneeded and unwanted when people are just discussing topics about whether things need to stay the same or get nerfed. That's my grain of truth. just scroll down the list of threads and take a look it always start by someone trying to be smart and then spirals out. Get a bot that filters out certain words. It ain't difficult :/

[restive reef]

Scope glint is just ridiculous right now. it should be a lot more dim. I can understand if you're looking out for it... but at the moment, when you're looking into a scope, you might as well be shooting a flare into the air.

That shit is a floodlight.

[scarlet hull]

Ngl I be seeing it cross map making me blind

[restive reef]

Yeeep.

[past roost]

The glint can stay, but make it fade out the farther away you are. Just like Devil said, even if its across the map, it still blinds you quite alot.

[dawn orchid]

You can use the long scope and be fine. If someone is shooting at you from 100+ meters with a AR then reposition yourself or headshot before they get a chance to put how ever many bullets it takes from that distance into you. I never had a issue with my glint. All it does it make ppl shoot at you and then you know where they are so youre able to one hit their head

[tawny sigil]

i've yet to have an issue getting kills with a long rifle tbh

[steel folio]

I’d say glint is fine. Without it would be broken. Could be toned down a bit but I’d say the big issue it is showing through trees. I can counter snipe with the mid range by shooting through them it’s a bit jank. Love the sniper with mid range scopes. Can be so much fun,

[tawny sigil]

i will agree with that

i've killed plenty of snipers cause of the glint through the trees

[dawn orchid]

Yeah fix the glint going through trees and it’s perfect

No need to make it even easier for snipers to one hit your head at 500 meters before you can see the glint

[tawny sigil]

just take the ss69 into the buildings

[unkempt bluff]

You just gotta hit those 1000m shots man, they can't hit you with their little assault rifles from way over there lol

[unkempt bluff]

??? Dude I've hit multiple 800+ meters shots easily, my farthest was 1300m, it's not that hard lol

Without zeroing btw, didn't know that was a thing lol

[snow yarrow]

During the Beta I sniped a lot with the M200 and could get devastating kill streaks at 1km away. It's achievable in desert map. Record is 1.648km (granted other snipers aren't as good at this range)

What you can do is equip an Acog. Try it and get used to it, it's good and won't get you spotted as quickly.

[rugged wigeon]

Funny thing is acog have x6 zoom just like long range scope

[restive reef]

Sure dude.

[dawn orchid]

Yeah i just dont mess with it

[restive reef]

I mean the m200 is pretty fast when I tried it on the firing range. I don't doubt it could hit at longer ranges. However. a lot of the maps will not allow for that.

[dawn orchid]

People hit 1600m shots what makes you think 800 is impossible

[restive reef]

Though, all of your guy's 'records' I don't really care to hear about, when I know they're on stationary goobers who are busy adjusting settings.

[snow yarrow]

Well my 1.6 was an exchange of "who can figure out the curvature of the planet first" type of deal lol

But you're right, not all maps are good for sniper at long range. Most are tho

[night kestrel]

Sniper glint is fine as is, use binoculars to find your targets ping it, zero the scope aim and shoot. Easiest kills without giving yourself away

[ivory dome]

How are you so bad? People are getting 1,500m+ kills yet you can't hit something 10% that distance

[restive reef]

I think part of it is that the sg69 is just garbage and punishing.

[restive reef]

You're right, I know my place now./s

[snow yarrow]

The first sniper is really bad, and not everyone is used to long range in fps

[restive reef]

He's baiting/being disingenuous.

[uneven mist]

Id like to ask, do you need to lead in this game? I mean if someone is running to the left do i need to account for that or what?

[night kestrel]

Use the first DMR you can zero out to 1000m

[restive reef]

Yes.

[ivory dome]

yes but not by much

[restive reef]

Ignore this clown.

He's not being disingenuous/trolling as I thought, he's actually just that inept.

[snow yarrow]

Dang I didn't give it a shot, I'll try it next time I hop on

[restive reef]

DMR that takes 3 shots to kill? yikes, that is pretty crazy.

[snow yarrow]

It can't take 3 shots in the head

[restive reef]

Well true, unless you're playing against a support, which will eat two.

[snow yarrow]

as a Support, I confirm

[restive reef]

And then beam you with that L86 which is better than I thought.

[night kestrel]

I've knocked out snipers with headshots 650m+ out before. Compared to the ARs the Damage drop off is way better while still being usable close range

[snow yarrow]

I actual take out glints with the M249 with single fire shots xD

[restive reef]

I mean, same. I've done that with the starter sniper, just took a lot of fiddling and trying to figure out how much drop to account for.

Oh sorry, you meant with the dmr, nice.

I hate the dmr just beacuse it has insane recoil.

While the m110 is just... better.

[night kestrel]

The angled grip makes it better in that department

[night kestrel]

I've also noticed to just keep every weapon zeroed in to 100m. The damage drop starts there so no point in shooting past it

[snow yarrow]

But to answer good maps for sniping long range, since I can't find the names; The one with the big boat, the nuclear power plant & windmills, the one with bunkers and bridges with a train bridge in the middle, the rainy one with the bunker in the middle, the desert one.
Other maps are fun to snipe on but usually you're at mid range.

[rugged wigeon]

You do need to lead the target. The lead amount depends on your gun bullet velocity.

The reason m200 is the meta sniper rifle because it have the highest bullet veloc

because of that there a point where everyone said nerf sniper

but good thing is Oki dont change anything

[dawn orchid]

Only if m200 wasnt so far up

[rugged wigeon]

one you use m200 all other sniper is trash

and glint not even a problem because you can peak shot really fast and still hit target

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGPWDy1Z9g

like this guys peak and take shot easy

[restive reef]

WTF IS THAT MUZZLE VELOCITY?

That's BS.

[rugged wigeon]

like i said if you said glint is the problem then you dead wrong about how op sniper can be

they need that glint to be balance

even glint through tree

[uneven mist]

Yea i mean seeing a glint that big 400m away is kinda shit

[rugged wigeon]

if you 400m away then only sniper counter you the rest kinda meh

[sand lodge]

What is that velocity....

[rugged wigeon]

that m200 velocity

[restive reef]

Welp, I'm not grinding to that for then next month...

[sand lodge]

I still stnad by the statement that glint is not okay. I think people saying it's fine are in the camp that they can deal with snipers very easily and giving the "use medium scope" is not a good answer

[rugged wigeon]

the problem is on beta m200 is like level 40 or something

[sand lodge]

lemme find a screenshot of me seing three glints through the forest without eyesight

[rugged wigeon]

here it way to high to get m200

[sand lodge]

Not the three one but just the first one I found straight away

[rugged wigeon]

the problem is they still can peak and poke if they good and you cant do anything about that sniper

[sand lodge]

Like how are people telling me

GlINt iS fInE

[rugged wigeon]

yes glint is still fine

[sand lodge]

I'm not scoped in and I already know where this guy is without line of sight.

[restive reef]

*80

[rugged wigeon]

yes but how that a problem

[sand lodge]

What do you mean how is that a problem ?

[unkempt bluff]

I mean I can show you clips if you don't believe me lol It's with the SSG 69 too

[restive reef]

Even more* Sure dude

[sand lodge]

My assumption is you only find it acceptable because you capitalise of it

There's absolutly no one "This is okay"

no one? no way*

[rugged wigeon]

again noob sniper then it hard for them but when again pro even if you know their location you cant do anything because the peak time is too short for you gun to hit

[sand lodge]

There's no way you're this dense.

[rugged wigeon]

pretty sure i have m200 for a while and when beta end i only lvl 60

[restive reef]

*100

[rugged wigeon]

you mean now?

[sand lodge]

You shouldn't be able to see it if you have no line of sight AT the VERY LEAST. Minimum requirement

[rugged wigeon]

the glint in beta just for you to avoid getting snipe not to counter snipe

same here

just because how good sniper can be

[sand lodge]

There's also the problem that advanced binoculars don't give you range finder but that's another topic all together

[restive reef]

what?

[sand lodge]

Yeah you're better off using normal binocs because the advanced ones are worse. you can't zoom with them or have the range find on it

[rugged wigeon]

idk if some hack or not but i meet some that the movement you shot at the glint you get hs back

[sand lodge]

So they are null and void

[rugged wigeon]

yes advanced bino is like that and no one use it

[restive reef]

What do advanced binos even do?

[rugged wigeon]

just like normal binos

[sand lodge]

Nothing that bino's can do

[restive reef]

Wtf?

[sand lodge]

Normal Bino's you can zoom in and out at the very least

[restive reef]

That is another level of stupid.

[rugged wigeon]

yep

atleast give it thermal

[restive reef]

I was thinking a range finder.

[sand lodge]

Or range finder so that i don't have to scope to give my position away

[restive reef]

At least.

But nah 'advanced' bino is just a telescope? XD

[rugged wigeon]

you dont need to scope to use range finder

just point the place to middle of you screen and look on the attackment

it display your distance

[sand lodge]

That barely works

half the time if clashes with the hill or defence in front of you

[restive reef]

Wow night maps suck

[sand lodge]

I tried that trick before but more often than not it'll give me a reading of 5

[tacit vigil]

Just use a medium scope, you don't need an actual scope to hit shots unless your have the aim of a spaz and need to see the pixels of someone's face before missing

[sand lodge]

Yeah I insta leave night maps

Please stop saying use medium scope

[rugged wigeon]

you can have error of 200m and still hit pretty easy

[sand lodge]

This "solution" is not a fix

[restive reef]

As a whole, I'm thinking this game is actually terrible.

[sand lodge]

I understand the concept of using a medium scope. But if that's the case long range scopes should just be removed.

It's a temporary fix that solves no real problems

[tacit vigil]

It attaches to a sniper doesn't it? It doesn't glint, and it's better than long range scopes. There is no need to fix stupidity if you can't use your brain to realize they're giving you a choice

[sand lodge]

AH here's the insult

Was wondering when we'd come to that

[tacit vigil]

That all?

[sand lodge]

lmao unless you have any other input that is relevant to this conversation no you can just disapear

In fact let me do it for you

[restive reef]

Oh yep, another drone to block.

[tacit vigil]

The 82 clowns says a lot about your arguments, and the fact that you suck at debating so much you can do nothing but block people that tell you to stop dying on a hill and telling them to fix something that's not an issue

[unkempt bluff]

I accidentally took my clown off and I can't do it again 😦

[sand lodge]

Your what ?

[unkempt bluff]

The reactions to the post lol

The clown

[restive reef]

81* I can argue just fine. But why waste the effort when people aren't worth arguing with? They fundamentally can't understand a problem I've observed and refuse to accept any explanation given.

[sand lodge]

It's just quicker to block them than wait for mods to deal with I tend to find

[restive reef]

Instead they just devolve to "Skill issue"

Which is just dumb.

And immature.

I don't argue with kids.

[rugged wigeon]

btw that skill issue meme also get use by oki

[restive reef]

Yet it caters to a lower skill-base....

Ah, no matter.

[sand lodge]

Guess I'll be blocking him then ? xD

[tacit vigil]

82* You're the child in these arguments who can't accept they're in the wrong, all you can do is block people and waste a feedback slot on feedback that doesn't reflect the communities beliefs

[keen whale]

Only change that glint needs is that it passes trough softcover, for the rest its perfectly fine as is

[restive reef]

Because i'm not wrong. I'm never wrong.

[unkempt bluff]

True

[rugged wigeon]

that can be good as well

[sand lodge]

That and as long as advanced binocs gives me range finder and I think it's a happy middle I'd comprimise

[restive reef]

Glint in this game is more pronounced than I've ever seen.

[unkempt bluff]

Welp

[rugged wigeon]

btw this guys not even using range finder and zeroing and still rock

https://youtu.be/6S0Ba8J6HnE?t=191

[keen whale]

Its not about what it gives you, its whats best for the game

[rugged wigeon]

m200 again lol

[keen whale]

Just making that clear

[tacit vigil]

This I can agree with, glints through trees are annoying

[sand lodge]

It's not whats best for the game when advanced binocs give you lesser than normal binoculars though

Like I said earlier. Normal ones can actually let you zoom in, the advanced do nothing

Also I understand that sniping might be good for the m200 but it's the whole concept of

[unkempt bluff]

Then it's probably not intended and a bug/overlook, it'll change eventually and it's not that big of a deal anyway, I never even used binoculars

[restive reef]

https://tenor.com/view/blinding-lights-chewie-gif-20120262

When I look through my scope....

[sand lodge]

If a game is good at "end game" , then it's not a good game

Like you really have to grind like f to get that m200

Sure I'm happy to hear that the M200 is cracked but it's going to take hours to reach :/

[restive reef]

Grindy games are bad games.

[rugged wigeon]

yeah currently it too grindy

[sand lodge]

I think JoshStrifeHayes said it best

[unkempt bluff]

Depends. In this case yeah, it's too grindy rn

I've heard they're going to rework progression tho

[restive reef]

Yep, not playing until it releases.

Watch them pull a 'f u' and just multiply the grind.

[keen whale]

Nah thier not like that

[restive reef]

The scope glint and anti-sniper map design tell me otherwise.

[unkempt bluff]

I was about to say that lol

[restive reef]

It's clear that the devs HATE snipers.

[keen whale]

The map design isnt anti sniper

[restive reef]

Oh really?

[keen whale]

Yes.

If it where anti sniper i wouldnt see rows of sniperglints sometimes lmao

[unkempt bluff]

The fact that the scope glint and map design are not of YOUR liking doesn't mean the devs are stupid. Almost everyone is complaining about the game being grindy, they're not gonna make it more grindy

[rugged wigeon]

map is ok not really anti sniper at all

[keen whale]

If you think the map is antisniper maybe find a better position first

[rugged wigeon]

you still have spot to snipe each map

[restive reef]

hoh boy... one map has fog that blocks sight beyond 150 meters, other maps are intentionally full of hills to make it so you can't shoot at enemies because they are never exposed, some maps have no elevation, others have features that are just blatantly there to prevent sniping.

[tacit vigil]

Wow, it's almost like, it's balanced?

[sand lodge]

I don't think they hate snipers

[unkempt bluff]

If the maps were anti snipers they wouldn't have sightlines of more than 1km lol At least to me almost every map has some good sniping spots, you just have to get good finding them

[sand lodge]

It's definatly aimed for running and gunning

[keen whale]

On the map with fog theres still snipers playing lmao

[restive reef]

Maybe not hate... but certainly are 'prejudiced'.

[keen whale]

Im on A site and theres just 4 snipers behind A on the treeline, ye but it antisniper?😭

[sand lodge]

Mhmm yeah I definatly think they made it heavily biased against sniping.

[restive reef]

I can count the number of those maps on one hand with a couple fingers cut off.

[sand lodge]

But I think it's because too many people complained about getting sniped

[restive reef]

Yep.

Can't have people dying to a headshot... oh dear.

[keen whale]

Skilissue

[sand lodge]

Playing massive conquest or frontline is good for sniping outside of it, I'd rather pick up a rifle and run

Alright you got nothing better to say so I'm going to block you too

[keen whale]

Ive gotten headshot by a sniper like twice today, just move like your on crack and they cant predict shit

[rugged wigeon]

i think dev just use high standard skill level to make sniper cause sniper is really good in good hand

[tulip grove]

retard alert

[rugged wigeon]

if you cant use sniper then maybe it not the gun for you

[unkempt bluff]

Good point

[sand lodge]

But that's biaseness right there

[tacit vigil]

There's not one map you can't snipe on, unless you're trying to run hunter or 20x or any of the higher magnifications scopes thinking you're gonna do anything at those ranges with the starter snipers.

[sand lodge]

If you have to have high skill for sniping

But no skill to have a Mp7 to run and gun and easily kill a sniper

It's counter intuative no ?

[keen whale]

Ye snipers are free farm in the right hands, but most people just camp and keep getting ak74 sprayed across the field because they dont reposition and just hardscope

[restive reef]

I said that so many times, and people just run over that point and just ignore it completely.

[restive reef]

I don't think ARs should be able to deal more than 10 damage beyond 200 meters.

[rugged wigeon]

the fact that sniper is the only can 1 shot you mean alot

[keen whale]

Yep

[sand lodge]

if you want to put skill into play then sure but then make it so other guns take skill like a recoil control that you have to learn

Then understandibly would be fair for all.

[keen whale]

Its not like sniping needs recoil control either

[tacit vigil]

Sniping isn't even high skill if you're competent, sitting in one spot, with a glint not moving is not a competent move

[keen whale]

^

[restive reef]

'lining up headshots at decent range doesn't take skill'-not someone worth taking input from.

[keen whale]

Unless headshot multiplier or on high damage weapons like the FAL, ye i can see that

[restive reef]

Just tired of getting beamed by ARs.

[rugged wigeon]

you can use mp7 run around but can you out kill speed the gun that 1 shot you

[keen whale]

Im sorry but theres almost 0 bulletdrop for snipers, compared to other games sniping in this game is super easy

So i get what he means

[restive reef]

What are you talking about?

[sand lodge]

You aren't taking into account the running speed of said Mp7. You can move really fast should you change armor type and all

Like just like you want to clearly argue against it by bringing it facts

it can easily be turned around as well

[rugged wigeon]

then you still get 1 shot by pro sniper and cant even put a 2nd bullet to him

[keen whale]

Whats the confusion?

[rugged wigeon]

you will death by the time 1st bullet hit him

the game meta is decide by how fast ttk is

[restive reef]

There is definitely bullet drop in the game my guy, and leading shots is certainly a task. Though not the hardest thing and is comparable to a lot of other games. But it definitely takes skill to line up shots.

[keen whale]

I said almost 0, not completely 0

The amount of skill required to hit sniper shots at range in this game is minimal at best

[restive reef]

Again, drastically incorrect.

Alright, you're baiting.

[tacit vigil]

Sniping snipers is the simplest thing, sniping infantry is super simple, you just have to wait and assume the bullet drop that'll half the time be literally less than a body length and shoot. The velocity of the starter sniper makes it easy unless you messed up the accuracy stat with a muzzle break otherwise you'll hit dead on with minimal effort

[keen whale]

Mate, compared to other games. The drop in this game is nothing

Thats what im saying

In comparison, to those ye? Its almost no drop

[rugged wigeon]

battlefield have ridiculous bullet drop

[sand lodge]

We don't disagree with that

But scoping in take a lot longer with a SR than an SMG.

[tacit vigil]

Even if you miss your first shot most people don't even notice or freak on and then peak the same exact spot they just got shot at from

[rugged wigeon]

you dont need to fully scope up to take the shot

[sand lodge]

You are just grasping at anything at this point.

We can just agree to disagree

[tacit vigil]

You don't have to account for recoil, your don't have to worry about them running you down if you're at distance. It is 100 times easier to snipe than it is to be a Frontline infantry

[fervent galleon]

remove sniper glint, make snipers hitscan, make them oneshot to the chest, there, balance achieved

[rugged wigeon]

you can quick scope shot even before the scope going up and still hit 100% accuracy

[sand lodge]

That's a little bit one sided on sniper part there maseast lmao

[sand lodge]

So you want the game to be Call of Duty basically ... ?

[rugged wigeon]

this game the moment you click the scope you get full accuracy already

yes quick scope is able in this game

[keen whale]

And idk how smg ads is relevant, if you are in a position an smg player can kill you your snipers ads speed isnt gonna do much

Your gonna get aimpunched anyway

[rugged wigeon]

just it different is you need HS to kill compare to COD only need body shot

[tacit vigil]

Mmm, aimpunch, my favorite

[sand lodge]

lmao if that's the case there is really no point in sniping

When the gameplay is clearly aimed for ZzZz run and gun

[rugged wigeon]

on pro they are just crack with it

[sand lodge]

I don't udnerstand how you aren't seing this

[keen whale]

So maybe arma is a better game for you?

[tacit vigil]

It is empty? Or does information just go in and out and stick when it feels like? Or do both of your share it?

[keen whale]

Lookat this game, it looks like roblox and plays like a faster paced battlefield

[sand lodge]

You have offered no feedback

[keen whale]

What do you expect here

[sand lodge]

Only pushback

Like I said, we clearly don't agree but you are insistant that this is ALL okay

[tacit vigil]

It is, aside from soft cover glints

[sand lodge]

Even though every "facts" you have made can be countered

[rugged wigeon]

why you want the game go your way instead of how dev want it to be

[sand lodge]

Likewise it goes both ways

[keen whale]

What your currently doing is the equivelant of going to a cod form and complaining it isnt more like arma

[sand lodge]

Alright Han. You clearly are grasping now.

[keen whale]

Forum*

[rugged wigeon]

player role is play on rule set by creator

[sand lodge]

What's the point of a feedback or suggestion if the players won't be listened to because the devs want it this way then ?

[tacit vigil]

If anything it is like a super simplified Arma, sniping in Arma isn't even hard if anything it's simpler than battlebit because bipods actually work

[sand lodge]

I don't know who's talking

But I got you blocked

[rugged wigeon]

dev can choose what feedback they need and what not. not 100% of feedback get chosen

[sand lodge]

So you've been talking pointlesly for the past 15 mins ish

#sorrynotsorry

[keen whale]

This one aint kek

[rugged wigeon]

and glint been like that since forever mean they fine with it

[sand lodge]

That's fine it's their game but you aren't the one to decide that ?

[tacit vigil]

No, Shorra, you've literally responded to me multiple times now for someone who has me blocked

[sand lodge]

Clearly enough people aren't happy with it .

[rugged wigeon]

that why i said the glint is fine

[sand lodge]

Again. Clearly there's enough people that don't agree

Just because you're opinion and others say its fine doesn't always mean it's fine

Judging from the amount of threads about this. It clearly needs to be brought up

[tacit vigil]

There is no checkmarks on this post at all, that should say enough

Not even from the two people arguing for it

[sand lodge]

It's also a case of a lot of people saying it's fine will never pick up a sniper

And are clearly okay with because they can capitalise on it

Which w/e it's fine

But that doesn't mean it's actually okay

But I'm sure you won't hear that part either

[tacit vigil]

I have both the sv98 and the crappy starter sniper fully unlocked, there is no issues. You said you weren't even playing until full release

[rugged wigeon]

if it ok or not is only matter of opinion since it depend of how you view it there no right or wrong

[sand lodge]

I agree but you saying it's fine, clearly isn't an opinion

[rugged wigeon]

my opinion is it fine cause i dont have a problem using sniper with glint

you just dismiss my opinion

[sand lodge]

I didn't dismiss your opinion

I already told you that we agree to disagree

[rugged wigeon]

ok then

[sand lodge]

This was sent many messages ago before you started grasping at anything you could find to argue your case

Which w/e your entitled to it but I fired back with counters that you chose to dismiss

[rugged wigeon]

my argue point still stand that glint is fine

[sand lodge]

I don't know why it's so difficult xD

[rugged wigeon]

i even mention that glint through tree is for player to avoid getting snipe

not to counter shot

[sand lodge]

I sent you two pictures with the glint and you told me it was fine!

[rugged wigeon]

yes it was fine cause with that infor in can take a route where there no sniper incase of there a pro player that would wreck me

like i said i already meet the one where i just try to shot at the glint through tree i get hs back

[sand lodge]

And I'm telling you that alone is not fine

The sniper can't see you through the trees

[rugged wigeon]

they still can see your bullet

[sand lodge]

THAT ALONE. Should not be okay

[tall shoal]

Sniper glint is fine.

[rugged wigeon]

and guess where you from experience

[sand lodge]

If a sniper cannot see you through a thick forest

You should not see them back

[rugged wigeon]

it still my view point

[sand lodge]

It should be difficult to comprehend

[shell shale]

Do all ranged scopes have glint?

[rugged wigeon]

nope only long range one

[sand lodge]

No that's why we're being told to use medium scope

[shell shale]

ahh, ive always felt like they have. Everytime i use it, its like a heatseeker to people.

[sand lodge]

Yeah that's why we're debating about it here

Because some people think it's too much

And some people think it's fine

But everytime this argument comes up people want to pipe up and just troll around.

Han's probably the only one which as kept civil

[rugged wigeon]

lol

well that all for my case

[sand lodge]

Ah I've just gone up , I haven't set up yet

I already know where that guy is

Without a single effort from my part I already know where to look, and I can sure as hell tell you the guy isn't aiming in my direction lmao

[rugged wigeon]

so free kill for ya and a lesson for him not to hardscope

[sand lodge]

Poor choice of words

My direction exactly > Not general direction

He wasn't hardscoping

But yeah

This conversation will not get anywhere sadly

It's just a massive tug-o-war

[rugged wigeon]

i dont even see a cover at that place

that not really a good place to snipe for him

[sand lodge]

There's a rock in front of him

Its just from my angle he has no cover

[rugged wigeon]

his place is too open

[sand lodge]

I used the zipline to climb inside the wind turbine

[rugged wigeon]

if it was me will build sand bag around it

the 4 one with hole to peak

[sand lodge]

I did just that

I took the screenshot as I finally got up

[rugged wigeon]

then it should sever as a good lesson for him to snipe in the open

[snow yarrow]

I mean tbf the glint through opaque leaves makes no sense and is questionable. While it's funny to one tap someone that couldn't see you no matter what, it's unfair and there's really no counter play to it outside of not using a long scope in these areas/maps. I don't have much against glint, but seeing it through trees is a bit wacky.

[dawn orchid]

i agree

[snow yarrow]

It'd also feel a lot more stressful if the glint flickered more in intensity generally, and was more constant if the sniper is aimed at you

So like you see a faint glint in the hills for half a sec, use your binocular and see someone aiming down toward the city. That would make more sense than seeing a constant big glint while the scope is not oriented toward you. But if it was, it'd be just as visible as it is now

[jaunty pier]

I forget what it's called but you can also use that spinning thing to mimmick a sniper scope and distract people from the actual sniper (you)

[snow yarrow]

Yep, but the glint emitted is easily recognizable since it doesn't vary in speed. Still works fine, but I prefer droning for intel at that point

[jaunty pier]

Personally what I think it should be is the glint is a little less recognizable at least as you get closer and maybe as you get closer it starts to fade but from far away (so other snipers/intel roles can see and report your position)

I would love to see more tactical kinds of things here

(In this game I mean)

[sullen halo]

i think the glint is fine. just get better positions where is cover.

[steel folio]

Why is everyone shitting on the starter sniper. I mean it’s velocity isn’t the best but it’s still solid.

[dawn orchid]

Yeah

I feel like its fine

[upper plank]

the scope glint IS fucking ridiculous. HOW am I seeing scope glint through heavy rain and fog?! where is the glint coming from - the sun is behind heavy clouds!!!! Lots of matches are just snipers shooting at glint, and it defeats the purpose of being a sniper.

glint should only be visible to you when they are looking AT you, with a clear line of sight, in weather where such glint could even be possible. I havent played at night yet, but im guessing they have scope glint in the dead of night too?

[bronze cradle]

this mechanic is not based off realism, it is for balance

[upper plank]

well I just played a night map and there was no glint.
why no glint at night then? I was sniping just fine at night time myself.

If it was for balance, it would be at night too, because I was just shooting at the red glow from enemy uniform lights, and was dropping people 200+meters away. surely I was ruining the match by killing people who didnt know where I was??

[bronze cradle]

how do you know there isnt glint at night? most of night ive noticed is people dont even run the 6x cause you cant equip NV

[upper plank]

I didnt see any the whole match. if there is scope glint AT NIGHT, im just not playing the game

[snow yarrow]

I think I've seen glint at night time on Lenovo, but it was coming from the glint gadget for recon

I can't imagine someone running a long range scope on that map, I can't even see properly with my NVGs half the time...

[bronze cradle]

im confused, just because of glint it makes you that annoyed? maybe use a medium scope? is it that glint is getting you killed very often?

[upper plank]

No, its not getting me killed very often. But I dont want the sniper class to be filled with snipers shooting snipers because of glint, which I see lots of

Its not getting me killed because I dont stay in the scope to find people, because of glint. If I did stay in the scope most of the time, it probably would get me killed way more, which kind of defeats the purpose of being recon

[snow yarrow]

I mean by experience with playing sniper (with Acog) I have more fun tracking other sniper's location from the bullet trace than seeing a white dot where they're at. but as a medic, I take imediate cover whenever I see a glint that could be aimed toward me.

[upper plank]

that is fair, but should that glint be visible if the sniper cant even see you through fog or bushes?

[snow yarrow]

I just think there should be an adjustment at the angle at which the glint is visible, also not make it visible through folliage

[upper plank]

im 100% on board with that

im not hyper against it, but if you cant even physically see the person, glint shouldnt be seen

[snow yarrow]

Fog is like nightmaps, It's already hard to see your targets, so why have your location be pin point

[upper plank]

Like I was seeing people across the map on a day-time map that was storming and foggy, and the whole time I was just thinking "why do I even need to see that there is a sniper there if he cant see me?"

[snow yarrow]

I've seen people get demolished by tanks because they scoped in with their x8 a few meters away from me lol

[upper plank]

but then you get snipers on your team just shooting at glint across the map

[bronze cradle]

i hate btrs and tanks sniping across the map at snipers it is so annoying

[upper plank]

wanna know how the tank knows the sniper is there?

[bronze cradle]

i mean i dont even have a 6x

i dont have glint

[snow yarrow]

I mean my longest shot is literally that, two guys shooting at each other's glint across spawn point...

[upper plank]

yeah, that shouldnt be a thing

[snow yarrow]

Through a tree, if I may

I mean, I'm fine for the glint while we're both looking directly at each others

It's a dual of judging distances

[upper plank]

but if LOS is obstructed by trees or fog

[snow yarrow]

Yeah no..

[upper plank]

right. we're on the same page

[snow yarrow]

He was running down the hill and when he laid down behind the leaves I was like "Oh, it still glints, let's take the shot"

[loud raptor]

skill issue

[snow yarrow]

But to me it's not that bad. The worst I've had is me one shot headshot with a m249 through multiple trees without knowing what the sniper was on, what distance and etc... he just got dom for existing.

That's why I only run mid range scope. I don't want to deal with glint and I prefer using drone to recon. I also don't always like having to build structures to avoid being seen from an other sniper that is at my far right

As is, I'm fine with it. It's the game's sniping mechanic, you can play around it or just get used to it.. But there's defo place for improvement to make it more satisfying and less "free kill"

Saying "get good" or "skill issue" makes no sense, cuz we're saying we shouldn't be able to kill or spot snipers without an actual line of sight.

[loud raptor]

but sniper glint is a real thing...

its not some made up thing

[upper plank]

not in stormy weather, through fog, through bushes, etc

we arent saying get rid of glint

[loud raptor]

"we're saying we shouldn't be able to kill or spot snipers without an actual line of sight"

[upper plank]

exactly

[loud raptor]

which is saying to get rid of it

[upper plank]

??? how ???
if it is possible to scope in and lay eyes on the sniper, then glint is reasonable

[loud raptor]

"we shouldn't be able to spot or kill snipers without an actual line of sight"

[upper plank]

yes, an unobstructed straight line from me to the sniper

you do know what line of sight is, right?

[loud raptor]

yes

[upper plank]

if there is dense fog, you do not have a long line of sight.

if the sniper is behind a tree, you do not have line of sight

[loud raptor]

you cant see the glint if they're behind a tree though

[upper plank]

I literally have seen glint through trees in game

[loud raptor]

i haven't

[upper plank]

and through bushes

[loud raptor]

you can see em through bushes irl

[upper plank]

if there is a bush between the scope and you, you wont see it IRL. if they are in a bush peaking out, you MIGHT see it IRL, but snipers IRL have sunshades, so even though its physically possible, you arent going to see it IRL

its a simple ask. If you cant see them and they cant see you, no scope glint

[rugged wigeon]

Tank have spotter with thermal and zoom really far. I doubt it have anything to do with glint where tank kill sniper.

[snow yarrow]

The issue is Glint is visible through any one sided geometry. So fences, leaves, bushes, etc... Anything that is effectively flat will let glints pass through. You could in fact see reflections through leaves if the right circumstances allow it

[outer cairn]

hello, if you can't snipe at 700+ meters without a high mag scope you deserve to become the sun

Thank you,
Medium Scope gang

[snow yarrow]

What was OP's original argument again lol?

Ah, I see the issue

[upper plank]

just make this an attachment to remove glint

[outer cairn]

sniper glint too stronk bc it goes through certain materials

[outer cairn]

0.10 run speed, 5 second ads speed

[snow yarrow]

lmao

[upper plank]

yo dawg, we heard you like sunshades

[snow yarrow]

OP was originally stating the glint should be removed or reduced distance. I say just make it not visible through opaque objects and reduce the angle at which it's visible

job done

[upper plank]

agreed

[rugged wigeon]

Those who complain about glint never see or use m200 before. That gun deathly on right hand. Only glint help to reduce that.

[snow yarrow]

not the point tho

[rugged wigeon]

For me it a sign to stay away from that area

[upper plank]

we are saying you shouldnt be able to see glint if you cant see the player, and they cant even see you

[snow yarrow]

Exactly, the moment you see a glint, you nope into cover. It'd be a lot more effective and intimidating if you could see it when the sniper is aimed at your general direction

But if the sniper is gunning your guys 4 streets away...

[rugged wigeon]

The shipwreck map there few spot in the mountains where you can snipe through few pixels between bush

It make you virtually invisible if not for the glint

[snow yarrow]

In those cases it's fine. Your scope would be visible through the folliage. I'm talking visible glint through a literal forest, or even a single dense tree

If you're laying down in a bush, the ones you're aiming at could still see your glint, but people around you, on the hill across the map should only see a bush

As the other sniper, you'll eventually see bullet traces coming out of the bush anyway

[rugged wigeon]

I think the glint for those who see through the forest is to alert enemy team and force that sniper not to camp because there will be someone risk back stab you

[snow yarrow]

So what's the point of pings, drones, communication, map positioning, changing location between each kill...

I think the sniper positionned on the other side of the map, through the forest or fog is none of your business. Unless you're operating a drone and seeking for potential snipers you'd like to alert your squad about.

Why would you see the glare of a scope 500m deep into the forest but not the 20 guys running up on you 100m ahead

[rugged wigeon]

Most map are open enough to have back route that the sniper won't able to see

Backstab is always on the menu so you have to get in good position and move around not camping

[snow yarrow]

And that is not what I'm saying should be changed

[rugged wigeon]

If they can only see the glint where you aim at then only those know where you are. But if others see the glint through bush then you can get more people hunting you forcing you to move more

[snow yarrow]

But the glint makes it so people start shooting at you through opaque folliage. I've literally out sniped snipers with LMGs and assault riffle because of it.

People will hunt down for recons if they see bullet trace coming from a certain location or hear a sniper shooting

[rugged wigeon]

And this game even sniper can builds sand bag that basically leave you with a small enough hole that even a rifle have hard time getting bullet in

[snow yarrow]

then that's skill issue for the person trying to shoot the guy behind sand bags

[rugged wigeon]

Only those newbie play sniper without cover be sandbag

[wraith flare]

just dont get shot forehead 😛

[snow yarrow]

I don't usually build structure because I move around

[wraith flare]

nah but the glint is a bit too much, i dont even play sniper

[snow yarrow]

I do now, if I find a really good spot to get multiple kills without changing location

[wraith flare]

is there a faster way to build besides holding mmb

[rugged wigeon]

I always set up a nest when I snipe

Change keybind from o to mouse 4

[snow yarrow]

But that's beside the point. We shouldn't be able to see other people that are miles away through opaque folliage or fog

Cover is cover, nothing changes about that

Glint or no glint cover is always a good idea

[rugged wigeon]

Then let that be a lesson for those newbie to learn to get cover when snipe

[upper plank]

THAT ISNT THE POINT

[snow yarrow]

my point is different from OP's tho, I do like the glare mechanic of long scope

[upper plank]

the point is there shouldnt be glint when its physically impossible for it to be seen

[snow yarrow]

Are you avoiding acknowledging my point makes sense?

[rugged wigeon]

If you get shot but not moving or build cover then you deserve getting killed even though the forest

[snow yarrow]

I totally agree with you that building structure to avoid being flanked or reduce the chances of being hit is a good thing to do

But pin point location to someone you don't even have a line of sight on is ridiculous and makes no sense even on a balancing point of view

Especially if the person isn't even looking near your location

[rugged wigeon]

And that I mean though thick layer of tree leaves but bullet still can reach you mean LOS is still there

You still get shot mean you need to get better

[snow yarrow]

Yes you can still shoot through folliage that's fine, if you use your drone, ping the location and get him with a headshot. That's on him for staying still that long

I guess I just prefer reconning for my kills rather than have them highlighted

I like the game, just sniping feels unrewarding when it comes to sniper vs sniper

A standoff like the clip I sent, I don't mind. But sniping a fellow sniper through multiple trees is ridiculous

[rugged wigeon]

Sniper vs sniper this game is more like who better at peak shot not like those mil-sims

[snow yarrow]

It reminds me of Planetside 2 most of the time, peeking and trying to avoid the trace coming at you. There's not justifying the scope glare through opaque png

[upper plank]

its line of SIGHT, not line of bullet

@snow yarrow I think he (or she or they or xzhee, or abc) is intentionally being dense at this point and purposefully "not understanding" our stance on the matter

[snow yarrow]

It has to be. I don't see how someone couldn't understand our point unless they like getting free kills or haven't experience what we've seen

[rugged wigeon]

My point let them get kill so they know to pick better spot next time

[snow yarrow]

Bro

[upper plank]

bruh

[snow yarrow]

It's not like the guy was standing up in the middle of an empty field

[upper plank]

we are saying that if you CANNOT PHYSICALLY SEE THE PERSON, you should not be able to see the glint

[snow yarrow]

That I could understand, but the guy is literally fighting an other war across the map with a forest seperating the two of you

[rugged wigeon]

If they know that spot can get kill but still use it or not building anything then it their fault

[upper plank]

...........

if you cant see the person, you shouldnt be able to see glint

this isnt a matter of choosing a bad or good spot

its a matter of how light shouldnt be able to travel through objects

[rugged wigeon]

If you let other see glint mean there no cover for you

[upper plank]

not true

the game lets glint go through trees, bushes, and dense fog

which it should not

because physics

[snow yarrow]

Dude ok lemme show an example

[rugged wigeon]

This is a game why you need to follow the rule of physics

[upper plank]

so glint through a fucking forest is acceptable to you?!

[rugged wigeon]

Yea

[upper plank]

aight, im not arguing this any more then

[rugged wigeon]

It will teach them to get better cover

[upper plank]

cant reason with someone refusing to accept logic

better cover... like in a bush like snipers do irl

[snow yarrow]

If you see this

[rugged wigeon]

That fine

[snow yarrow]

I'd imagine the guy is aiming DIRECTLY at me

or the guy next to me

[upper plank]

basically, a very tight cone of direction

[snow yarrow]

Yes

It'd be stressing me out and I'd go behind cover

If I was a recon, I'd send a drone out to see what's there

Instead of peeking and getting headshot

Or just leave my location altogether

[rugged wigeon]

Even if he not looking at you it still serves as a warning sign that there a potential sniper that can kill you

And if he covered in sand bag then you option is to runaways not fighting back

[snow yarrow]

But I'm already expecting for there to be a sniper. I shouldn't be given is exact cohordinates

I'm assuming you've never gotten kills by just randomly shooting at a glint?

It's not a warning, it's a deathmark. A warning would be a red ping

Why would you be warned about a potential treat if literally NOBODY in your team saw, heard or assumes the location of someone

[upper plank]

no no you are a sniper, you are supposed to bring a wagon full of sandbags with you everywhere

[snow yarrow]

At this point you're just saying you like having the game give you enemy location for free and that if they die for stupid reason they're "newbs"... while you're the one being given THEIR location

[upper plank]

your scope glint was seen through a rainstorm, 18 trees, and a smoke grenade. you got killed because of it, NOOb

clearly people not using sandbags is the issue

[snow yarrow]

Again, I don't mind the scope glare. Nor that it's visible at 1km+. I just don't think it should be visible through opaque entities

[upper plank]

I should not be able to see this glint

[tiny elbow]

i have used the sniper, the glint is ridiculous, but i think it's alright to make it like that because otherwise, ppl are gonna be camping one or two spot and you're gonna be more frustrated coz you're getting assassinated from god-knows-where. maybe if u remove the glint, might as well limit the number of sniper slots like in HLL

[upper plank]

nah dont remove it

but you should be able to see it through dense trees

because that guy cant even see me

so its unfair for me to see him with a bright beacon on his head

[untold vale]

if u kill him skill issue

have used the sniper multiple times hiding and that and u just snipe back

best sniper wins

[tiny elbow]

ah, that make sense. it's just weird you're like the brightest star in the sky in a thick and lush forest hahaha

[upper plank]

THROUGH A TREE?!

that is literally a 1 way fight. he cant see me through tree

I can see his glint

through a tree

[sand lodge]

At this point @crisp heron and his unproffesionalism as allowed trolls to run amock. Every suggestion or feedback now always has trolls. What's the point of your rules when you don't follow them yourself ?

I'll take the warning for pinging him but it's rule for one and rule for another if so.

[untold vale]

what

[sand lodge]

This whole agrument doesn't really matter by the way there's 9 to 10 topics about this issue and people do nothing but act like kids giving no good counter points and just resolve to insulting you because you don't agree. And they are very aggresive about it.

[upper plank]

I dont foresee a single one of these suggestion threads making a single difference to the game tbh

[sand lodge]

Nor me to be fair, I've seen mods clap back with

It's the dev's game they do what they want

So you're probably right and with the amount of sheeps that follow. You'll likely find that you're just talking to a brick wall.

This is as good as you're going to get until battlefield actually gets their gear on and does good on their part by making a decent game again

Until then, your mum says you have battlefield at home - This. Don't use long scopes - use medium scopes. Who knows, maybe they'll remove long scopes all together because of it. Counter Intuitive to have them at this point imo

And remember

The dev can be toxic so everyone will be towards you.

You'll most likely block half the server at some point.

[untold vale]

if you can see them they can see you

[upper plank]

not true for glint

[unique locust]

And its not fun to get fucked by snipers every single time either

[restive reef]

Keep moving, snipe for 10 minutes and you will see what I mean.

[ivory timber]

Skill issue honestly just fire from one spot get a good 3 or 4 kills then reposition that’s what I’ve been doing and go into the shooting range if you can’t figure out the drop I can hit moving targets from a couple 100 meters away because I know the drop on the starter bolt action (I literally have 0 attachments other than the default)

[restive reef]

No one asked.

[ivory timber]

Look at you making a thread then responding to every single comment giving advice or a suggestion on how to get better with childish stuff

You’re so cool omg look at you

[restive reef]

Bro, flexing on something basic, isn't 'advice'. Are you 12? go to school, it's good for you.

[ivory timber]

I wasn’t really flexing tbh but okay?

All I was doing was suggesting a way for you to stay alive longer since you suck so bad at playing sniper you felt the need to whine to the devs to remove glint

Also my bad I didn’t know I was talking to a genius forgive me Einstein

[untold vale]

says the guy with pronouns in his bio

[restive reef]

What a child! XD

[ivory timber]

This is probably the best moment of his life dude is peaking rn arguing with a bunch of people in a losing battle thinking he is right 💀

[untold vale]

imagine your only comeback is calling others children lmao

[restive reef]

Arguing with legally, literal, children*

[ivory timber]

Last time I checked I’m 22 years old but sure I guess I’m 12 whatever you wanna say buddy

[restive reef]

Imagine insulting something you think directly links to an entire political spectrum and is something minor. 💀

[restive reef]

Damn... kinda sad you haven't matured since then. but okay buddy.

[ivory timber]

I haven’t matured? All I did was suggest a way for you to potentially get better or stay alive and you started coming at me with your inflated ego wtf are you smoking bro

You’ve literally been fighting with everyone who disagrees with you instead of having a genuine discussion

What was the point of making a thread if all you are going to do is whine and complain then insult anybody who doesn’t agree with you?

[restive reef]

Starting off with skill issue, and 'explain' how you have no problems lining up shots at all within a certain range. But yeah, if you disagree with me, it's fair to assume you're just not worth talking to. As it's a pretty plain issue.

[ivory timber]

Bro even a dev said you have a skill issue 💀

[untold vale]

this is starting to sound all talk and no bite lmao how about a 1v1 lmao

[restive reef]

Where?

[untold vale]

probs true

if u die u die

if i die i die

[restive reef]

Nah, you're trash, I can tell from your lack of punctuation and demeanor.

[ivory timber]

Wait okay I’m actually Dumb

Nvm

See I’ll admit when I’m wrong

I had a stupid moment now I look stupid go on call me dumb

[restive reef]

Nice.

[untold vale]

Dear Not vandice
Your comments on me typing is important to us. Sadly due to system errors I don't care. I honestly don't give a sh!t about my punctuation.
Kind regards
Danlur

[ivory timber]

Bro is really getting upset people aren’t using proper punctuation on discord of all places

[untold vale]

also this is discord not a job application

also aint this thread about sniping and were arguing about punctuation and other crap

lmao

[restive reef]

I mean, for you. That kind of thing would be a waste of time. Still learning how to use periods, how do you expect to work as anything more than a cashier.

Bruh's potential taps out at being able to make biased comments about political affiliations. 💀

[untold vale]

bro im still in school im not focusing on that shit im focusing on getting my marks for uni lmao also this sh!it is discord im not gonna waste my time on grammar

[ivory timber]

Meanwhile all you can come up with is calling people children and flexing your age like it means anything when in reality it doesn’t

[restive reef]

Explains a lot. 💀

Keep learning my guy, you'll get to 'average' at some point... hopefully.

[untold vale]

bro is being abelist now

thats against rules

[ivory timber]

Lmao it’s kinda sad to watch him grasp for straws and repeat the same insults over and over

[restive reef]

I'm not flexing anything, just calling a spade a spade. Children in my eyes should need a permit to be on the internet. Give them the ole 'UK' treatment.

[ivory timber]

It’s like the “I know you are but what am I kid” everyone knew in 2nd grade

[untold vale]

Bro is discrimnating against someone who has had a learning disablity for nearly his whole life and only got it fixed half a year ago

[restive reef]

*Ageist actually. but atleast you can self-identify.

[untold vale]

bro...

[ivory timber]

Okay and how do you have proof that any of these people are children unless they have told you

[restive reef]

Just circumstantial evidence provided by confirmation bias.

That's 3 syllable speak for: I'm pulling it out of my ass.

[ivory timber]

🤓 “Just circumstantial evidence provided by confirmation bias.” You tried so hard to sound smart right there

You strike me as a redditor

[restive reef]

Man thank you, I like to think I can do baseline assumptions and immediately know what a person is all about.

[untold vale]

ayo anyone know how to report people here can find the channel

[ivory timber]

Greasy fat old mf sitting in his chair angrily smashing away at his keyboard

[restive reef]

Bro is mad <3

[restive reef]

Active military actually, you can project though, that's fine.

[untold vale]

na your discrimanting against people with a mental disability

[ivory timber]

You are in the military and you whine this much?

[restive reef]

How? Have I said a slur?

[restive reef]

That's pretty on par actually. Proof you don't know anything about what you assume to know about.

[untold vale]

no but you made fun of my grammar and stuff when i have had a mental disability

which is against the rules

[restive reef]

Yeah, I pointed out that you can't use periods. I'm assuming that you just have a busted keyboard from raging one too many times.

[untold vale]

bro is trying to cover up

[restive reef]

But hey, if that is because you're just 'special needs'. Then I can understand even better!

[ivory timber]

God I’ve never seen someone this sad in my life

[restive reef]

Bro tryna make fun of pronouns and play victim. 💀

Bro is baskin robins of political agendas and social engineering.

[untold vale]

what?

[ivory timber]

Baskin-Robins*

[restive reef]

Ah my bad, I've been there a couple of times. Still don't know why anyone would, they're pretty trash.

[ivory timber]

Don’t even have one where I live

[restive reef]

Cold stone is 10x better easy.

[untold vale]

Did i make multiple comments in it?

[ivory timber]

Finally one thing I can agree with you on

[restive reef]

What did I do?

called you a child and said 'stay in school'? Man, that is all it takes to offend you? Man, ageism goes hard.

Bro is definitely from either the UK or Cali.

[ivory timber]

I mean you keep getting offended by someone skill issue

[untold vale]

im african lmao

[restive reef]

Oh I mean, I do. Cause people are too stupid to realize that complaining about a game doesn't mean someone is bad. They just use that to flex about themselve's and it is kind of a braindead response tbh.

[ivory timber]

I mean to be fair it’s really not that hard to snipe just don’t stay in one spot for too long because then people will 100% figure out where you are at and they will fast

[untold vale]

ye

[ivory timber]

Use the equipment to make fake glints or something to throw people off

I like to snipe from one spot then throw down a fake glint and move so people think I’m still scoped in at my old location for a minute

[untold vale]

i do that

[restive reef]

I get that, I do, it's not that I do that, nor have I said I do really anywhere. However, even if someone did, it does not take long to realize that a sniper is shooting from a specific area, all people have to do is just not be braindead and they can process that information.

Which is why I say, glint is not necessary.

[untold vale]

glint makes it realistic

i suggested on one of these posts before

[ivory timber]

Not really

[restive reef]

And the glint gadget is super gimmicky, if you actually fall for it, you're just stupid.

[untold vale]

they add something that when its in the fun there is a glint

and so on

[untold vale]

na na snipers give off a glint

[restive reef]

Stay in school...

[untold vale]

💀 bro

[ivory timber]

It’ll buy you some time because people will have to look at it to see if it’s you or not especially if you were just shooting from that spot

It buys you like 5 seconds or more but it’s worked for me

[untold vale]

there is a gadet in the game for anti glint lmao

so it is realstic hahaha

[restive reef]

If you say that is realistic, you're just stupid and need to do actual research. It's just proof you're uneducated, that simple.

[ivory timber]

The problem with removing glint though is that if you did that I guarantee half the match would think they are Chris Kyle

Everyone and their mother would be sniping

[untold vale]

ive done research before lmao

[restive reef]

No, you clearly have not.

[ivory timber]

No glint works in games like dayz, arma, hll, squad, and insurgency to name a few but in this game it’s just too fast paced for that

[tough zenith]

Nothing feels better peronsally than as a sniper flanking getting good positioning to provide crossfire then being rewarded by everyone knowing where i am at a minimum glint should only be visible if the sniper is looking in your direction rather than scoped at all

im also somewhat curious as to why people are fine getting shot at 500 meters with a medium scope and not knowing where they are

[ivory timber]

As much as I dislike cod I think the new modern warfare does a good job at handling glint if you are super close there’s no glint if you’re at a medium range there’s a small barely noticeable glint and depending on what scope you use it also changes the intensity of the glint if we had something like that I think it could work but I feel like removing it entirely would cause each team to get flooded with people who think they are good at sniping just because no one can see where they are

[tough zenith]

has anyone ever been killed by a sniper without having seen the glint and not know whey they got shot from though? the directonal indicator gives a direction any skilled player should be able to figure out a general direction to look without glint

[sand lodge]

Since we're all being civil here I'll bite

[tough zenith]

ive done it literally hundreds of times

[sand lodge]

I agree with Kelpy there needs to be somewhat of a X range that makes it allowable

[restive reef]

There is not a lot of mental gymnastics to figuring out where a directional marker is pointing or seeing where tracers are coming from.

[ivory timber]

In this game it’s easy to find out where shots are coming from because of the fact everyone is shooting tracers for some reason but in other games it’s not so easy

But seeing as how we are talking about battlebit I’ll stay on topic (I hate autocorrect)

[tough zenith]

i mean even without tracers

[restive reef]

Even in other games, it's still pretty easy. Though, you have no time to react to some of these 'totally not hacker' AR users that beam you from 200m.

[tough zenith]

id even accept a ramping glint the longer you stay scoped the more intense it becomes

[sand lodge]

Whilst people will always just say "skill issue" , there's a massive issue that withint 500 meters you can get beamed by AR / SMG's relitevely easy. As I said prior, I've killed someone I've shot people through tree's purely because their glint shows through a dense forest

[tough zenith]

to reward the more skilled option of bino usage

[sand lodge]

But for some reason people will always just give you a clown emoji

[restive reef]

THIS

[ivory timber]

You ever play arma and have a sniper team hiding half way across map in bushes picking off your whole convoy I have

[tough zenith]

since using binos to mark then scoping kind of just is pointless right now

[ivory timber]

It’s not fun

[sand lodge]

I'd also be more acceptable of the glint if advanced binoculars actually gave you the range

[tough zenith]

yeah

[sand lodge]

So that you wouldn't have to scope to set your zeroing distance

[tough zenith]

or even just having a rangefinder used it on your binos too

[ivory timber]

I still think it should be relative to distance, if you are aiming at someone, or depending on the scope

[restive reef]

I have a few hours doing that. But that's meant to be realistic... in reality, it doesn't take long for them to start moving in on you or open up their higher caliber guns on you, because after 1-2 shots, they know the exact bearing, even without thermals.

[sand lodge]

I'd be happy to have long scopes be like medium scope that at close / medium range there is no glint

But anyone seing it 500+ can see your position that would be fair

[ivory timber]

Hell even all of those would work

[tough zenith]

i do think people who say glint in its current form right now just arent sniper players however :x

[sand lodge]

My other idea is that since glint is such a problem and that we should use medium scope

[tough zenith]

the fact that most snipers the first time they get a medium range they use it over a 6x should be a clear indicator that thers an issssue

[sand lodge]

I'll play devils advocate right now

Then give me a way that i can change my scopes easily like BF2042 did

I don't want to have to die to swap my scope constantly

Because my situation will never be perfect , I'm not always going to be 1000m away in one life

[tough zenith]

im still curious to the other question i posted up here if sniping was indeed an issue and glint was required for it why is there 0 outcry about medium scopes used at 500+ meters

[sand lodge]

I don't actually know

I think it's because of the scope itself

Using them myself my scope is horrible at long distances

[ivory timber]

Most of the time when I play 127 v 127 (depending on the map) I see a wall of glints in the distance

[sand lodge]

It's very blurry

[ivory timber]

It’s ridiculous

[restive reef]

Another excellent point. I don't see people complaining about being sniped without glint on medium scopes at all.

[sand lodge]

By the way if you look at the end of a wall / corner , you'll find that you can see the glint through the wall 😛

[tough zenith]

and again people have no issue tracking down people 500m out using medium scopes and killing them up close so long as the map allows it so why is glint in the game

following that logical train

[ivory timber]

Personally I feel like no matter what they did with the glint people would still be upset

[tough zenith]

i mean such is unavoidable there are a lot of things that would that would probably be better for the over all health of the game that people just wouldnt be happy with

[ivory timber]

You remove it people will complain that snipers are “overpowered”, you tone the glint down people will get mad about that, you keep the glint the non glint enjoyers™ will also be pissed

[tough zenith]

another thing how many people are dying long range to snipers anyway just move

ive gotten into 1000m sniper duels and the only way anyone is getting hit if we both just sit still and only shoot

[ivory timber]

I’ve got a few lucky shots on people who are moving at 850+ but not many

[restive reef]

See, now within the next ten minutes, some random dude is gonna pop by and disagree by saying "Oh nah, it's so easy to hit moving headshots at 10000000 meters. Like, it's just so easy, it's the easiest thing ever."

[tough zenith]

i mean good if you are hitting the long shots consistently why are you being PUNISHED for your skill

sniper is the only class that gets actively PUNISHED for doing what its supposed to

[ivory timber]

I can consistently hit most people at like 300-700 something but anything over that is a little luck based for me tbh

[tough zenith]

i see no complaints about the running selfheal of medics the crawl games get brought to when everyone is playing medic with 20 bandies

[sand lodge]

I concur, any players I hit within 1000+m we are both standing still. the issue as well with beginner rifle is that we both tend to see the bullet coming and just side step

Which is funny to see both of us do that but sucks xD

If you both know you're there you're just playing the game of who fires first

But the thing with that kind of gameplay is that you're really not focused on anything else but that fight alone. I know I'll probably get trashed talked saying I'm tunnel visioning but I prefer the long range sniping.

[restive reef]

I hate the 'sweat' snipers. They piss me off beyond belief.

[tough zenith]

anyway thank you for coming to my ted talk hopefully the devs do literally anything about it that we've discussed above or even read it

[restive reef]

Headglitching, peek spamming, adad spam... oh fuck I wish I could boot them offline sometimes.

[sand lodge]

Unfortunatly we are a from what I've seen a minority

Just take a look at the emoji's alone. people think it's hilarious that this is topic and lets not forget the sticker that's is always posted

[untold vale]

why did u buy patron then?

genuine question

[sand lodge]

You know a game changes over time right ? ( English isn't my day today )

You think the game was like this from the get-go ?

[ivory timber]

I’m glad to see that we were able to reach an agreement/common ground the scope glint could use some changes I wouldn’t say an outright removal is necessary but some improvements and changes need to be made

[tough zenith]

i think through working some of the prehipreal features of sniping you could outright remove it

though a rework of the bullets whizzing past so you dont get ghost bullets in a tunnel, increasing the dust of a missed sniper shot bigger muzzle flashes louder sounds etc

only difference being it would take a player of greater skill to deduce rather than just saying "here"

[ivory timber]

I still just want a banger soundtrack

But that’s a different topic altogether

[sacred hinge]

Hire battlefields soundtrack composer and bam

[sacred hinge]

The peeking ones?

[magic yarrow]

Sniping is OP. Enemy literally cant do anything about it. I know because i am sniper.

[snow wadi]

Imagine being a bot that uses anything higher than 4x.

Stop playing on a phone screen.

[snow yarrow]

Imagine using tools given to you. Having a choice in playstyle and variety. Someone using a x8 standing a km away from the battlefield is just different then an Acog or red dot at mid to close range. They aren't "skill issued" or "newbie" for wanting to snipe a different way then what's meta or what you claim to be so great

[snow wadi]

They use the tools but complain about their drawbacks.

There's no glint with x4. If they want more, they gotta take the glint.

[snow yarrow]

Because the drawback makes no sense? I could use a x20 and still wouldn't have a glint pass through hard surface

[snow wadi]

It doesn't matter. It's a balance thing.

[snow yarrow]

Then so be it, but don't say "skill issue" while you're the one taking literal free kills given to you

I'm in the same boat, I shoot back at random glints across the map. But I don't say they're bad, it's just unfortunate

[snow wadi]

They're literally painting a target on their face and complain.

They are bad.

[tacit vigil]

Watch out, you're gonna get blocked for making sense

[snow yarrow]

Bro what

He's not standing up in an empty field

[snow wadi]

What are you not getting now?

[snow yarrow]

You, I don't get you

[snow wadi]

They're literally glowing across the map. 💀

[snow yarrow]

yep, through opaque entities

[snow wadi]

To some degree. Leaves are odd.

[snow yarrow]

and fences?

I can throw nades behind opaque fences because it somehow glints

[snow wadi]

Shouldn't go through solid ones. but that's probably a calculation thing.

[snow yarrow]

It's not juste leaves, it's any face that is one sided

So png with alpha

[snow wadi]

The price we pay for the low CPU load.

[snow yarrow]

It can be fixed tho

without tanking any sort of performance

[tacit vigil]

Fix it then

[snow wadi]

This

[snow yarrow]

I wish

[snow wadi]

Just saying "it can be done" won't make it true.

[snow yarrow]

But people keep saying "skill issue" instead of trying to understand what we're complaining about. It's not the glint itself, it's seeing it through objects

[snow wadi]

As if that's the actual issue.

They'd still complain even if that wasn't an issue.

[snow yarrow]

I mean it is one cuz I can consistantly kill people I don't even see

[snow wadi]

Just use 4x and there's no issue in the first place.

[snow yarrow]

People will complain about everything, I just give my opinion on things that don't really make sense generally

[snow wadi]

If you need anything higher, you're too far away anyway.

[snow yarrow]

I don't mind strong tanks, strong helicopters, one shot headshots, etc... I like that

[tacit vigil]

Tell op to rename the post if you're not blocked by him, two people on this suggestion have been arguing for days for no reason. The only issue with sniper glint is going through soft cover. That's it, not glints as a whole

[snow yarrow]

But there aren't many games we can play sniper like this

and I like this, we were both in our own "safe zone" lol

[snow wadi]

So?

So the worse player dies. Big deal

I don't see what scope vs scope is trying to prove here.

[snow yarrow]

We're both at very long range, there shouldn't be a "you're too far away anyway"

[snow wadi]

He sees you all the same.

[snow yarrow]

We both looking down each other's barrel, ofc we gonna see each other's glint

That's normal

[tacit vigil]

Cause if the issue of sniper glint going through soft cover is fixed the clipping through hard cover will be fixed. A simple line of sight check is probably what they're using and it only accounts for "physical" objects not soft objects with not actual hitbox like leaves. That's my only gripe with scope glint

[snow yarrow]

exactly

[snow wadi]

Assuming it is that simple.

[snow yarrow]

It is

[snow wadi]

But we don't actually know.

[snow yarrow]

It literally is that

[snow wadi]

Because you know the source code? 🗿

[snow yarrow]

No, but we can judge the issue based on how it behaves in game?

[snow wadi]

I honestly don't care either way. I just meme around with x4.

[snow yarrow]

Do you need the recipe to tell if your cake is chocolate?

[tacit vigil]

I doubt they're doing anything more intensive than drawing a line to each player and if it hits cover it doesn't glint, if it doesn't it glints. Hence why sometimes you can be moving quickly and see sniper glints through a wall for a split second, atleast that's happened to me loads even through hard cover

[upper plank]

but preventing glint is a real thing. sun shades achieve this on real scopes

you really think this is gonna glint?

[restive reef]

Oh I'm aware, but that isn't the purpose of sun shades actually. It's to prevent light pollution into the scope which ruin's the clarity of the glass. However other options like killflashes, anti-glint coatings, etc. The image you shared is comedic. However, glint is unlikely even in those instances because you have to be 'above' someone, the time has to be in the evening, or in the general direction that the shooter is not looking.

If you do say it's realistic to see glint wherever the scope is pointing, you're just not very aware of how reflections work.

[upper plank]

I know, that is why I said they achieve this. I shoot long range as a hobby and hand load my ammo. I'm well aware of why I want my sunshade

[restive reef]

Neato, 6.5, .308, .300wm?

[upper plank]

but I think we are actually on the same page and I misunderstood your original message

6.5

[restive reef]

That's a good caliber, haven't gotten to try it yet, but after doing some reading, I might pick up a rifle for it at some point.

[upper plank]

didnt even realize you were OP actually. lol yes we are completely on the same page and I misunderstood the message I replied to as you saying sunshades removing glint was unrealistic. my bad haha

[visual vessel]

brand new to the fps genre huh

[restive reef]

No, just played games when sweats abusing the limits of a game engine and mechanics wasn't the norm.

[visual vessel]

didnt know walking left and right was abusing the game limits

game breaking

[restive reef]

Shit, I mean even in bf3, where bunnyhopping made you immune to damage, it wasn't abused all that often. ADAD spam is aids, if you use it, you should just lose any kind of accuracy for a number of seconds.

[visual vessel]

sounds like a skill issue