#speedruns
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can somebody explain to me how you can get below 2,30?
is recon faster then all???
(i have the aim) but the reload is effery time on wrong places
just watch one of the record speedruns and you'll see where you can improve
i know now xDD
sub 2 min by tonight!!!
ooooh
its night now
why do you run with a pistol?
what are the req for the run?
and what are the categories?
any%?, kill all any%?, and pistol runs any%/kill all pistol any%?
current records and such?
recon, clock on singlefire, and watch clips
#speedruns message is record i guess (on clip)
there is a time 1,42,1000 but i cant find clips of it so there is a chance its faked
whit a pistol you have fastest run time 1,10 and whit the clock you have 16 shots
But you can use the primary right?
So why not get a high mag primary and switch to a gadget while running?
lose time on weapon swapping
reloading is free since you can reload while sprinting and there's no part of the course where you have to shoot more than 16 targets without a chance to reload "off the clock"
@fallen apex because hipfire, if you have to ADS with a smg every time you have to shoot targets, you will not finish the course that fast
@neat birch 1:42 isn't even possible on legit%, i simply dont believe it is
yeah for people getting 1:42 they're skipping some part of the map, 1:42 is not possible
on legit%
there is a run whit 1,05 using grapling hook
firing the grapple mid run or firing the grapple before the run?
pretty sure, its not prematch set up
i m not home today so i cant try 😦
@neat birch that 1,05 run is mine .. 😄
That is any%
Legit% is no shortcuts, no grapling hooks, that's why im saying legit%, 1:42 is NOT possible
1:42 in any% is ofc possible
It's not legit% if you shoot grapling hook before or midrun
im gonna tryhard practice 100% accuracy legit%
good luck
i never liked 100% accuracy though, its speedrunning, that means fastest time
there's no category for 100% accuracy anyway
the optimum time will be 100% accuracy because it takes time to miss :^)
MAYBE full auto on the 4 stack will be optimum, but im not sure how that would affect reload timing for the rest of the run
it takes time to miss yes, but also takes time to aim 😉
comes down to luck, i can have 80% accuracy and be faster than somebody with 100%, the guy with 100% accuracy can be faster than me if he uses the same time to aim
vice versa
Bro how
you know that pistols give you 1.1 movement speed and are therfore faster than a gadget
and yeah as someone else said you want to be moving while shooting and therefore using a primary weapon doesn't work
I still have a primary setup just in case I can somehow continue the run after messing up a reload or missing too much
but I haven't used it in like 2 months
when do we see that 1:48 run from you sand? 
How you get accuacy out of hipfire
when I can be bothered to run
I seem to put way too much stress on my wrist while running
and also it's very time consuming
I won't be running today at least
cause I am busy
oh ok thx
yeah true, sometimes 1 hour goes by too fast
i find it personally could be faster.
it was easier for me to follow routes easier, with how reloading goes.
- i never aim down, i usually just go hill fire with lazer.
was legit 4-5 times close to getting 1:47 but i just choke the same shit over and over again
nice! i juts cant get over 2,0
has anyone recently done any 100% accuracy runs? just wondering how I did in mine
man
if that exist there gonna be 2 categories for the run
any% and 100% accuracy
This is not a category, but there are people here that can do 100% accuracy legit runs sub 2:00 without warm up. So you can compare to that
yeah not making that a category
cause then you'll have the same run be world record in two different categories
Lol I was just wondering about personal bests I don’t need a whole category
sorry
it's just some people really wanted a 100% category
so I like to be very clear that I think it's not nessacary
I'm terrible at this
first run?
Yes
This is the first run where I didn't miss a target
I suck at the parkour at the end
Pretty good for a first run
Yeah but I'm terrible at the parkour
I finally broke 2 mins and kinda just havent tried much anymore
1.57 is my pb
i started at 2.45 somewhere around there
same
How tf can you shot so fast
If you shot so fast, you just basically shot in the air
Not aiming in
?
And if it's too quick it shoots in the air
its much faster, Why the fastest speed runs use it
@marble owl
using an acr
where am i missing targets 💀
nvm ik
first runthrough 💀
can we do out of map or not
what
Out of map would be Any%
legit is no out of map
Figured
And here I thought I was innovative in speedrunning the training 😥 😥 😥
It's good to spot you in two communities
1:48 is the fastest if I’m not mistaken
Glock/whatever gun is fun
call of nothing, you're not using recon class are you?
recon class runs faster, and you shouldnt use anything else than pistol, it slows you down having to switch at long range part
Hey, I was thinking of organizing a first try tournament for speedruns^^ just a speculation for now but would anyone be interested? : D
damn thanks for letting me know
ım using it because my aim sucks and its kinda hard to hit at long range with pistol
no i got faster just now but the world record is 1:48
i did not know that
interesting
yes, but wr is 1:47 from me soon 
i hope
is there a video of the 1:48
goddamn
u better get quick im catching up
i do not
and 16 bullets with extended mag
ur right glock is better
MY ALT G ISNT WORKING i beat ur time but my alt g isnt working which means no vid which means it does not count
😦
you got 1:47 just like that? o.O just wondering, are you skipping any parts or something else? many things aren't allowed in legit%
just use nvidia geforce always works
pretty wild if you go from a 2:07 run to 1:47 in 16 hours @harsh shale
is blowing parts up classed as legit?
noo XD
legit is running through it properly
not climbing over things
well, things youre not supposed to at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpzcAhff3rQ
this is a any% run, you can do whatever you want, just gotta hit all targets
legit% is not shortcuts, nothing
and yes like jiho said
oh
i was kinda figured you were doing something XD
lmao srry
my best legit is 2:05 
np 😛 i was getting scared for a moment
dont think its possible to get lower than urs
nah it definitely is if you get 100% acc
oh yeah it is for sure, if you watch my run, i mess up 3-4 parts but i do long range + car part the fastest i've ever done
1:45 is not possible i dont think, 1:46:xxxx is and ofc 1:47 is aswell
or 2-3 parts*
ok gl with that i believe in u
gj bro
no way is satins sweaty hell is this legit??? your buildings look like my dad that opted out of fatherhood while getting the milk and a pack of winnie blues.... completely non- existent.
you can blow the buildings up with explosives
but its not allowed in legit%
i just got 1:48:6xx with 1.2-1.3 seconds wasted on car part because i miss bruh
sub 1:47 ruined by full spray not hitting last target once again : - (
damn
song name ?
It got claimed LOL
I cant watch it on discord
wait rly?
yea
wtf
its says umg claimed it
can i mute the video on youtube?
i can still watch it
universal music group ı think
idk how to mute videos, dont want it to get removed randomly sometime
i will just reupload and try to mute vid
it doesnt work like that
when a video gets claimed it shows ads sometimes and you cant make any money
you werent gonna make money anyway
ahh i see
but if people cant watch it on speedrun.com aswell, im gonna reupload
fucking idiot youtube
that car section was so clean
🥺 🥺
ohh damn i had no idea. Sounds dope.
@vestal scarab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etrVmjPrw_g
how does video look for you now?
i removed the sound through youtube
Check out the Leaderboards For This Run And My Previous Run
Previous Run:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_fhlPJXbp4
Leaderboards:https://www.speedrun.com/battlebit_remastered/level/Training_Course
bro no wayyyys
i was about to post a legit one of 2,13
your spots gonna be challenged XD
I remember when I wanted competition
now I just want the will to try and improve my time by at least 4 seconds
hahahaha
i also had some 2-3 hours sessions and gave up at the end, sometimes it's really easy to get tilted, but it feels nice to finally beat ur own time
worth it
can you verify @gleaming kiln 
💀
@worn aspen why do you not vault skip
you could save like 0.1-0.2 seconds
your 1:48 could have been the first 1:47
also I have no idea why your semi circle was so fast
but it was
and you had an insane long house
I got a great idea
instead of me trying to beat your legit% time
I go back to my roots
and do any%
also @jade trellis can you give me super mod on speedrun.com
cause I want to verify my own runs
and make borderless
HAHAHAHA
do you mean vault skip in the end?
i cant have jump and vault on 2 different binds, im so used to space space space now
borderless was no destruction, but skips etc allowed right?
yes
you would get used to it
and there is a slightly slower vault skip that lets you skip vault still
it's in nishi's fastest run
perhaps yes, im 100% gonna try to use vault skips if nishi beats my time, at that point i cant only rely on my aim, that 0.2 is probably gonna make WR difference at some point
@lyric nimbus are you still running
mr nemisis
no i didn't touch the killhouse at all asides from the first hours of trying to run it
waiting for actual game
ah alright i see
when servers are up we gotta make a speedrunner squad
where we all run recon and pistol
probably all im gonna do anyway lol
You don’t do that anyways?
well no, not usually. but the point is if 8 people all did it toghether you could probably get some good reactions
what if I told you I could get a no target 4 seconds run?
like from start to finish in 4 seconds
like that
it was a bit faster
but I am not recording it so I don't give up my secrets
no destruction?
sand.. me wasting 4 hours of my life speedrunning, is worse than you speedrunning no target runs hahahahaha
i mean
I'm not warmed up enough to go for an actual run tonight
So I decided to come up with new glitches to get a faster any%
since respawn glitch is basically useless now
and this is the closest thing to a run i could get using the glitch
I am tempted to make no targets a legit category
but borderless will be added first
then I can see about what else we might add
: ' (
what was respawn glitch
and can you explain borderless 1 more time
Im autist
wtf 4 seconds to finish
you probably used fly mode and did something
no way u can run from start to finish in 4 sec's atleast
i mean only run*
basically you know how when you respawn when mid run the timer keeps going
well on the first version of the shooting range you used to have to run for like 20 seconds after shooting the last target
by respawn the run was about 5 seconds
you can do it without fly mode
the 4 second to finish does not use fly mode
the one I'm trying to do for any% involves using flight mode
only problem with the new glitch is you need lots of time
borderless is you can jump over any walls
I'm gonna ban grappling hooks too
ahh yeah i saw that in your version 1 run
without fly mode? wtf bro, you're fucking sonic or what?
i found a way
could probably get 3 second run
maybe sub 3 but I think that's pushing it a bit
I mean
sub 20 really tall tower
@worn aspen think you could beat this new category i came up with
the timer has to be running
that is the rule
you can't no clip while timer is running
i can..
how
i just can lmao
are you sure?
source :trust me bro
unreliable source
anyway i have a vid of this run
joke
you
i dont have the creativity to start playing with ways to beat your bitch ass category 
Show me sand
it was actually a 17 sec run after reviewing the footage
you do the same with the other no target run aswell i would like to guess
the video stopped at 17flat
yeah i do
it happened all the time when i did any% runs, it was so fucking annoying
I'm talented
lol ok
yeah it annoyed me a couple times before i new how it worked
i guess it's some kinda respawn glitch when you're hooked on a grapling hook, or no?
i dont remember what i did, i just spammed f5 sometimes
not explaining it
till i get a good run with it
which probably won't be today cause my hands are freezing
yep can't get less than 1:21 on any%
hows that for a first attempt
yeet
? LOL
idk
any restriction on what gun you use for the shoot house?
cause i can get sub 2:20 with a vector
no, you can use whatever weapon you want
sweet, ill post it soon
ok so is blowing up walls allowed
aight bet
i found a skip LinX doesnt use
soon as i get the muscle memory for hip firing, that 1:45 is mine
Not my best and not my worst either
USP man?
nah it was with a vector but the .1 move speed on the last run
you cant jump barricades, only stuff you can "vault" over i guess, u gotta do full course
what skip am i not using? the last vault skip at the end or?
if you ever get a 1:45 i'll give you 5$ 
Honestly compared to my and nishi's run, there's not that many improvements to be made other than just shooting faster
vault skip in the end, is the only skip i know of, that i didn't include in my run
Yeah I've kinda given up on getting WR
cause LynX your aim is just a lot better than mine

@lyric nimbus what is your faceit lvl / elo if you play faceit csgo
just stalked your youtube
cause your movement and aim is crisp aswell
Random unwarranted callout is unwarranted.
When I was playing csgo actively I hit lvl 10 and stopped playing
But was years ago
Game boring
CS hasn't changed at all since Source 1.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jr3lvi3tQc
So is that not legal? If my potato aim can be 2 seconds on WR pace, someone can really go crazy
i still hit all the targets
only legal if you're doing any%
I looked at the thumbnail of that video and I can already tell you that is not allowed
also at least when you did it, you took the same amount of time it would for anyone in the top 5 to do normally
but i also told you earlier "you cant jump barricades, only stuff you can "vault" over i guess, u gotta do full course"
so you did the complete opposite 
i mean taht wasn't clear
that much any way
you an't jump over anything brown
at least
yeah i coulda explained it better
unless it's a window
excuse me sand
yes?
ok

well
forgot that
np
The point of Legit% was to do as close to as the devs intended it as possible
but still going really fast
yeah, i mean if you've done a few runs it honestly becomes pretty obvious what the "legit" course is, where you dont jump over 2 meter tall barricades
sand you see any improvements on my any% run acutally? i haven't done any runs after that 1:05, i hate having to destroy everything
I knew it haha, you remember what elo you were?
what competitive fps games do you play now?
And now you're playing csgo 
i just hit 2k and stopped playing
was playing solo so i hit my goal no point in going any longer
was years ago though
don't play anything else seriously now
overwatch died
valorant boring
climbing in faceit is easy if you're 5 stacking
same as any other game that allows you to fully squad up
well getting more elo is always fun, i hit 3.3k elo but it was getting to repetitive for me aswell, so i took a break
I can't
I'm acutally most sad about overwatch, it was fun to play
yea i played the first 4 or 5 seasons of overwatch
was one of the funnest games i've played fps wise
after brigitte was added game went down the shitter
me2, then battleroyale games happened and too many new heroes was added i think
yep.. hahaa
hahaha*
ok good
oh yea
played siege for like a season
played apex ranked the first time last season
was fun too
is it even fun? i played 1 game in beta or alpha rs6 but it wasn't me back then, or my pc couldnt run it
after you hit a certain rank no
same as most games
pixel peeks are ass in that game

you gotta have insane map knowledge
i hit diamond when i played which was the 2nd highest rank i think at the time
and it got so bad
was playing vs pros somehow
is there even a competitive scene in rs6 anymore?
gg
yes
very large one
still going hard
they ruined siege
even if you just take one look at the new ui compared to the old one
agree
siege used to be something special
now its just an overdone arcady tac shooter
laser has helped me alot with hip fire tbh, i can do it without but sometimes i wont have timings correct = alot of failed runs, so laser always it is
yeah
its funny that so many games has to get ruined because they have to attract new customers, and stay relevant
double jump off of a wall
nvm
i swear i was doing it earlier but it might just have been the mantle being blocked
how did you do it? omg
my secret is that i left it on while i went to this place called outside
you might not have heard about it
i only found out about it recently
hi
whats it like
terrible
fuck thanks huge bullet dodged
np
@gleaming kiln wait when did you get a 1:52, have you been fourth for an entire month?
why didnt i even see it
yeah i set it a month ago
it was 2nd at the time
but dominik was away and couldn't verify it
AHHH so it was just recently verified right?
thank god im not that blind then lmao
Holy shit
I'm 0.8 faster than my 1:47 at this part, so 1:46 is acutally possible
But i choked long range part : - )
💀
me still cant get bellow 2.40
i take it video is required for the speedrun.com leaderboards
wp!
I dont think it is
100% not
yeah
if you exit the course
Like going on the wall there ig counts too
or like the first area walls
ok
nice 😄
lol
Me
but yeah it's pretty easy to get an idea of what is legal and what isn't
and both the video you posted both have Illegal cuts
aight
wr on mind
mouse: FM starlight12s, gps
cm/360: 29-38
mp: artisan zero soft
res: 1920x1080 & 1440x1880
Finnish beer prolly is the biggest secret
is playing without suppressor better?
Depends... runs faster without
ok
you are close enough that accuracy doesn't really matter
apart from maybe the long house
so close to my first sub 2:10
the chinese music really does help
2:07 🤤
i have knocked 33 seconds off of my run today
😩 keep it up bro +1000 social credits
xdd
also btw is jumping faster than running?
No
is it slower or same
1.58.5
purple you sure you didnt use not allowed cut this time? XD
im doing the "lines" that wr does
any%?
legit%
you mean the route that im using?
yea
ah
but im aiming more often
idk i can aim better without
and im just aiming to make it easier on some parts
its a bit slower tho
@worn aspen i still dont understand the 01.47 tho xD

huge pb pog
Wr is 1.5 minutes
its 1.47
@timid perch i have 01:47:xxx as wr
smoll flex xdd
Always 😉
1m 47s 596ms
Oki reminder to refill ammo on f5
I think it's been long enough since the last reminder
whats your fastest time?
please
nice
yup 3 minutes
that might be top 5
fr? nice
i need to be faster but 100% accuracy is not that bad
its better to have not 100% cause you need glock 18 to spray at some parts
ah ok
Finaly just gotto work on the aim.
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rough start but i pick it up after
Made the parkour to LETS GOOO
You can save a little bit of time by jumping on the border of the "ramp"
if you have enough speed tho
so you don't have to climb the first wall
@lavish dock Thanks for the tip man, but unfortunatly i don't understand which ramp you mean. is it the first one on the parkour bit?
Before the pipes
Np
thats prity cool but i think so, i would also say that using weapon such as harpon is cheating
rpg's and harpoons are allowed in any% runs
Legit% no, you cant destroy or use some big shortcut in the run
?
So u follow the path and aims as good as you can basically
1
2
basically
for legit% anyway
It's basically intended%
but legit sounded cooler
is the cut at the end intended?
there are shortcuts
that aren't intended of course
but you stick generally to the intended route
if you can't discover short cuts it's not any fun
just saw this
bruh
my guy is ubermenschen
Holy F, i'm going through some of the speed runs, and by god , how in the actual F do you plp have these sort of aims?!
no life
I've met R6 professionals who had worse aims
and maybe aimlab
maybe scripts?🤡
There are some new AI assisted aimbots that are undetectable as they input the same way a player would and you can make it vary from just a simple aim assist to classical aimbotting, It's so sad you can't truly appreciate the skill of a player nowadays bc of how HUGE the cheating business has become, there will always be doubt no matter what.
I dont really think so
I believe they are legit
I hope so, but you can never know
plp cheat on roblox games, y wouldn't they cheat on this?
you can't cheat the speedruns
as far as i am aware
since the targets aren't actual player entity
there are other targets that give you kill/damage score popups
that could maybe be aimbotted to if people wanted
but do you know how much easier it is to flick things when you do the same flicks over and over again
and also
the best aimers aren't always pro players
you just need good aim and to be good at the game to be a pro
you could have the best aim in the world and still not be payed for it
also i just verified all the runs
so if you submitted in the last 3 days your runs is on the leaderboard now
also borderless exists
@gleaming kiln Where can i find and submit speedruns to the leaderboard?
You can cheat engine game to x% speed with 0 knowedgle of how cheats work.
It's literally open cheat engine.exe choose game and press slow
I would not try it on any steam game with any sort of even shitiest anti cheat tho
Not worth
Anyway being suspected of cheating is highest form of praise we can get

Yeh, don't cheat kids
oh ffs sand
you added borderless
time to waste more of my life
but nice
so @gleaming kiln every shortcut in borderless is allowed, just no destruction and no grapling hooks, correct?
thank you sir
do you have a borderless for reference? i dont wanna waste 2 hours finding a shitty route that's worse than others already
borderless run*
let me check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kmrsO8AvNE from the borderless main himself @bronze phoenix
yeah froom you'll be glad to know I added your favourite category
there you go @worn aspen
THXXXX!!
ok
okok 1:46 @gleaming kiln
already got a 1:35
now
literally the run after i decided to submit
maybe 2 runs after
Ahhh gg
https://gyazo.com/1ef71db29aff783360f31382025629e5 this is also a very shit run from me
i dont even know which route is the fastest, this is very confusing
yeah idk either
last time i seriously attempted borderless i gave up and created any%
good idea, but borderless is kinda fun aswell, here u really gotta find the best route etc
good luck
wait acutally
what class did u run in border? recon with pistol or medic with mp7? medic runs a bit faster than engineer
so i gues i have only a 1:37
I know i can beat it though
nevermind not running legit%
I'm sleeping
best choice
tyty 😉 but i really cant figure out what is realistically the best possible time
fak u
😡
I think 1:20
im done for now though, getting so tilted at the start because i keep missing the tiniest fucking head
I'm gonna be confident
Hmmmm
i mean you're probably right with the 1:20 tbh
sorry to say it.. but i used froom's route xD
how many hours do you have in battlebit btw?
the only thing i found is when you're done with second part which might give like 0.4-0.5
oh no fuck you sand
dont ask me that question
answer me first
how many do you have
i have 84
https://steamcommunity.com/id/763262372449932/ add me on steam
what on earth is your profile background
ok
my eyes are scarred
click store
I'm so dumb
and it's there
i have 603000 points.......
You get 108 points for each 1€ you spend
How do you only have 8000 sand, u have 33 games
i got most of them from before?
i don't think you got steam points for game you already had when they added it
ahh no that's probably it

I have 13k, i just give a clown trophy to some of the dumbest questions on the steam community forum
Its a fun thing to do
Its 600 points to clown some one, so clown them all 🤡
wait
but my god, having to learn a completely new run and having 0 muscle memory for doing it reverse, real pain
DO IT
I think I can lock categories anyway
after it's done
Its fucking gametime
I have too much power!!!
have fun
I'll do a run later tonight, cause I am busy today
I wish I could like ping people for this one day event
Although it'll end april 2nd EU time cause I want to give americans some time as well
Make 360 a required rule
Its so fucking wierd doing it in reverse
@gleaming kiln froom's route / the one im using, in no way whatsoever is 1:20 possible
somebody gotta find a new route 😦
Ok
Nice
😍
ok, just saw this, so its a an any%
Done with long range part, record for me, i'm 0.5 seconds ahead of my WR
I messed up the parkour part at the end at that cost me the sub 1:46
fuck
not once but 3 times i've lost sub 1:46 because 1 fucking jump
pog
🙂
yup
I will probably run a bit more now as it's getting closer to the tournament playtest
tournament ?? what
sorry
was thinking about a planetside tournament
cause I also have a ps2 tournament so i don't have as many evenings free
ohh
i thought u were talking about battlebit tournament hahaha
sand do you wanna see something ?
fast
yes
but i am also full auto on first part
I'M DONE
Not going for 1:45 before somebody else beats me
im gonna retire now
or no
gotta get sub 1.46
@slender stone i dont even know where to improve for that to happen
get better aim
i did
How is that even possible, I get like 3-4 mins
Although I don’t try for the lowest time
I just casually go through it
practice
I get 2 mins
I would watch the #1 run and copy the skips they do
hmm
yeah recon + mp443 or glock 18 is the best
you could probably pretty easily get a 2:30
ok thanks
Did you remember to touch grass?
no time to touch grass
gotta go fast
getting pretty close to the record
damn how'd you do that
skill
guess that's what i lack
crazy aim man
nice
that's faster than my fastest
cause i had a 1:35 that I failed to record
unfortunately there is a 1:26 i think
that i haven't bothered to verify yet
oh
that's shesh
wanna do 1:29 with 100% accuracy
i think it would be the fastest possible time with the way it runs
wait
does fps lock affect anything?
cuz I have 120 lock
but fps free I have like 400
you get it sand
and @umbral stream i have 1:24 on borderless but i didnt save the clip.. 1:25 is my time, and its WR right now that sand hasn't verified, i can get like 1:23 for sure
Borderless is too tilting for me to go for 1:20
sand go find better route men))
show me the way
you also go back to "half circle" when you're done?
when i did that my time improved by 4 seconds, compared to froom's run where you run back to the start
of course, there will probably always be.. but right now i cant find it
green laser helps understanding where to aim, i can do runs hipshooting without laser now, but i like laser, it's a good help, no reason not to use it
I mentioned that you have to look a little bit down so you can aim faster
yes i also tried doing that, but i ended up missing alot more, it's probably faster
if you get timing right
how long have you been running this way?
since i discovered it xD, which is when i had 1:29, so 5 days ago i hit my 1:29 borderless
yes that's what i do aswell
радикальный феминизм
I mean you did a huge half circle
@worn aspen but you do just like in a video. i think you'll save 0.5 sec, maybe even 1
@chrome knoll я хз че тут про феминизм пиздяц, дис и стример так то политический
a huge half circle? do you mean because im not so close to the wall when jumping?
im full sprinting so being close to the wall will take longer if i have to position myself
do you wanna try 100% accuracy?
sure i can try
wdym full sprinting?
2 sec
will definitely save 1 sec
I do huge half circle there because i 2-3 times lost a good time because no enough speed
haha
but yes good point
