off-topic

[bleak fulcrum]

[undone hemlock]

yoo that makes sense, santa must be super good with numbers

[bleak fulcrum]

He busy with his numbers already no way the guy has time for bbr

[winter surge]

how else he gunna deliver all those presents in 1 night?

Must have route optimization like we aint never seen

[undone hemlock]

Christmas is likely being replaced by BBR update this year

[bleak fulcrum]

[undone hemlock]

Just five months away!

[bleak fulcrum]

But there ain't that many stat people in the community. And not a lot of them even calculate damage fall-off. Atleast there aren't many public ones.

If there's someone doing them privately then no idea

[quick locust]

Who would that be?

[bleak fulcrum]

Cuz he was the guy I worked with most

We both had the same numbers at the top of number game

We both had best numbers there were

Any number you wanted, Either of us had them

Oops

I have dyslexia or something

[bleak fulcrum]

That would be .........

[quick locust]

[bleak fulcrum]

Actually I can just say it cuz pre whatever thing

It was potes

My balance buddy

My BFF (Balance Friend Forever)

[bleak fulcrum]

But you are not potes

Potes was the creator of the damage fall-off formula

The damage fall-off formula i've used forever

But now i'm gonna have to change the formula cuz yall changing into more complex values than simple XY values and adding tangents for beziers

Oh the simple days of easy XY Bezier curves

Goat of math that guy was

But just so you know Termy, there can be more than 1 balance guy.
2 Balance guys both bring more perspective into balance and create better numbers with more indepth understanding

If both can compensate for others weaknesses then they are a good duo

When balancing one can get tunnel visioned and not realise there is a better approach, another pespective can help with realising that

[quick locust]

I’m well aware

[bleak fulcrum]

Well, Am I gonna get an answer to the question of "Does that guy have ANY experience with balancing or making changes in video games in-general (including non-BBR game)"

[quick locust]

No. You’re not going to get an answer.

[bleak fulcrum]

What amazing cucking

[quick locust]

I could have kept it going

[undone hemlock]

What’s his home address, if I might ask?

[bleak fulcrum]

There will be blood shed

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-the-sound-of-that-jf-davis-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-that-sounds-good-to-me-that's-an-interesting-idea-gif-2974125876996340458

[bleak fulcrum]

Is the game doomed?

[halcyon trellis]

Any idea who cares about guns in a shooter wouldn't have crashed vector rpm that badly

[bleak fulcrum]

Now we wait for non-vector guns

[halcyon trellis]

Anybody who cares about gun balance in a shooter wouldn't have brought both weapons velocity down to 450

[wintry orbit]

https://youtu.be/lr8-m-p-5rs?si=DSJWNpo0WPC6BBlH&t=2185 36:25

[halcyon trellis]

In conclusion, whoever's in charge of guns is an intern or a guy who literally only looks at spreadsheets and nothing else

[wintry orbit]

36:25 whats up with the panting ?
bros got asthma

hopefully we can turn that shit off

[halcyon trellis]

But whatever the case, rip gun nuts and rip those who enjoyed gunplay

Rip

[bleak fulcrum]

I'm just imagining how bad the weapon variety will get

If kriss is 920

[junior shale]

[bleak fulcrum]

Then wtf is MP7

Wtf is scorpion

[junior shale]

m4 went from 700 to 750 too

[halcyon trellis]

They're all gonna be predictably boring

[bleak fulcrum]

Today I got glazed for making "good" weapon variety

[halcyon trellis]

It's alla product of spreadsheet balancing to keep all the weapons similar

[fleet tendon]

@junior shale

[hushed river]

cant post in battlebit chat so

[junior shale]

[bleak fulcrum]

Even I didn't do it that badly

[halcyon trellis]

Losing this level of weapon identity is a real bleh moment

[junior shale]

its fitting

everything else is becoming generic

might as well make all the guns the same too

[winter surge]

Guns already are the same

[undone hemlock]

True, that fixes a ton of balance concerns

Really levels the playing field

[bleak fulcrum]

The amount of hours gone into balancing, wasted. Some guy just came and dumped all variety into the bin

[halcyon trellis]

Glad you'll feel right at home

[bleak fulcrum]

So many fucking hours spent.

[winter surge]

Sorry, I should join the "i know how everthing will go because ive seen partial in dev stats"

Sounding a lot like ox1

After all, you pay attention to dev casts so you know what you are talking about

[bleak fulcrum]

Thats a crazy level of glazing, if they weren't the intended stats, then why are they changing every gun before even looking into it

OH we just changed everything.

Without any thought behind it

[undone hemlock]

I’m sure they’re just joking around

next devcast they’ll show all the stats are back to normal

[undone hemlock]

just playing around a bit

[bleak fulcrum]

Nah like Darth is crazy with these "oh they aren't the real stats haha"

Like its crazy

If they aren't the real stats they wouldn't have changed them, otherwise they just making shit up to show like they've done literally anything

[undone hemlock]

I’m not sold on the idea that slowly going insane is the best response though

[bleak fulcrum]

Meta response for someone that has spent so much time on balancing just for all of it to go into the bin

[winter surge]

I am sure those are the stats as they exist in the moment. Seeing a handful of random stats in isolation leaves a fuckton of assumptions to be made about how the game will play. It could be totally fucked, could work out given the rest of the variables like, player health, move speed, class bonuses, recoil, bullet drop, or any other smattering of things at play that we dont yet see.

And the really crazy part is, things can change again! Balance is an ever moving target

[slate mango]

What if they are placeholders for now

[bleak fulcrum]

"Oh they aren't real, they will change as we go"

[bleak fulcrum]

Everything is a placeholder

TTK changes are a place holder

Damage fall-off is a place holder

Recoil changes are place holders

[slate mango]

I mean really is there proof of these being the definitive stats

Like any legitimate proof

[bleak fulcrum]

Its the fact that these stats exist in the first place

[winter surge]

They were observed, there for its absolute and will never be changed again

[undone hemlock]

I don’t pay a lot of attention to the devcasts, so I don’t know how precise they are really. But I do feel they shouldn’t even discuss gun balance if they had decided on yet-to-be-announced major changes to other systems which would make them less drastic

[bleak fulcrum]

Someone thought these should be put into the dev build

[slate mango]

But they still arent in the released build
Therefor there is a chance they arent definitive

[winter surge]

I agree, and outside of talking about the averages and people screen shotting weapons stats. They have not done an indepth look at it. We are missing major variables that play into how it "feels".

[junior shale]

there's a chance that they turn the game into a car racing sim

[willow oasis]

Update is a placeholder

[junior shale]

the entire game's a placeholder for forzabit i heard

[bleak fulcrum]

We literally see vector was 920 rpm

WHY?

[fleet tendon]

How about I place these fists on your face

[bleak fulcrum]

Like make it make sense, why is vector 920 rpm???

Why was that change made

into the dev build

[junior shale]

don't worry @fleet tendon they're putting a footy club simulator in too

[bleak fulcrum]

There is someone making changes into the dev build for weapons.

Those aren't accidental changes

They are put there with purpose

[junior shale]

there's a 99% chance those are the final numbers

[bleak fulcrum]

After shitting on the changes that % goes way down

[undone hemlock]

Maybe they have a random number generator to randomly throw out new stats profiles until they find ones they like

[bleak fulcrum]

Like terminal loves feedback

[winter surge]

Yall should get into tea leaf reading with this level of accuracy

[junior shale]

he didnt mention going over the ttk again in the devcast before release so you should assume theyre final

[bleak fulcrum]

I've given him the feedback regarding M4 as he asked for some

Like just cuz terminal exists there's chance they change until release

[junior shale]

didnt oki say he spent weeks getting these numbers

[bleak fulcrum]

There's also that crumb of information

[tired flume]

i wonder if he spent weeks asking chatgpt for numbers

and then verifying with bard if the numbers were good

[junior shale]

if oki learned to use chatgpt we'd have a patch already

[tired flume]

im torturing myself to play one match of bbr today

cause my day cant get any shittier right

:clueless:

[winter surge]

🫡 outta fucks to give for now so enjoy the doom spiraling. I hope the games everything you believe it will be

[bleak fulcrum]

[junior shale]

[bleak fulcrum]

"Shit i'm out of glaze material, I cant defend this"

Ahh response

[willow oasis]

im 99% sure that new TTK changes will fck everything up

[junior shale]

800 ms ttk supports

[bleak fulcrum]

Darth did block me for saying devs should communicate more (also strawmanned people who ask for communications are entitled people that want to know down to the smallest detail what devs eat for breakfast rather than just basic communications regarding progress)

[willow oasis]

i do believe that venicles, exlposives and bolt rifles will be much more powerfull if those TTK changes are implemented

unless it takes 2 HS to kill a guy with bolt rifle

[undone hemlock]

When setting up the stats profile for the Kriss Vector in your game, you should definitely consider giving it a rate of fire (RPM) of 920. Here’s why 920 RPM is the perfect choice:

Balance and Excitement: A 920 RPM rate will make the Kriss Vector an incredibly exciting and dynamic weapon to use. The high rate of fire can create a thrilling experience, distinguishing it from other guns in the game.

Unique Identity: Setting the RPM at 920 gives the Kriss Vector a unique identity. While other guns may adhere to more traditional and realistic rates of fire, the Kriss Vector at 920 RPM will stand out, becoming a memorable choice for players.

Humor and Fun: The absurdity of 920 RPM can add a layer of humor. It’s an inside joke that adds a fun twist to the game, making it more entertaining for those in the know.

In conclusion, setting the Kriss Vector's RPM at 920 is not just about the stats—it's about creating a unique, exciting, and humorous element in your game that will keep players talking and entertained.

[bleak fulcrum]

TTK increase concept allows for more variation between weapons, thats good because guns then get more variety. But we are seeing death of established identities at an individual level

Kriss getting its 1200 RPM removed

To 920 RPM

Why?

Who knows

[willow oasis]

i just see RPGs flying in my face more with new TTK changes

[bleak fulcrum]

M4A1 is at 750RPM

Currently in the dev build

[junior shale]

20% higher rpm for falloff after 8 meters + half the damage

[bleak fulcrum]

Like with the trend of balance decisions in the dev builds, it seems to me variety will be gutted

SMGs will all be similar 700-920 RPM

[willow oasis]

i already fed enough with current RPG fest

[bleak fulcrum]

But AR will be there with 750 M4

What about Scorpion?

Is that getting gutted as well?

We know its recoil is getting gutted so its identity as high risk high reward gun gets thrown out

[willow oasis]

first kick shot 5.0, vert recoil 666, horizontal recoil 777, damage 1

[bleak fulcrum]

Oki showed Scorpion is very controllable in previous dev cast

[wintry orbit]

ay ox1 are the m4 stats the same from 1 month ago?

[willow oasis]

deal with it. cant kill? well, thats just a skill issue

[bleak fulcrum]

Yes, unless they changed non-shown stats

[bleak fulcrum]

Also bless the UI guy for that stat show method

though I'd place first shot kick below vertical and horizontal

[undone hemlock]

Light vehicle damage is absent - wonder what’s the reason for that

[bleak fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/nut-cum-jizz-horny-dick-gif-21213004

[undone hemlock]

I prefer the old one though
Faster to read for me

[bleak fulcrum]

Its not really relevant for majority of people so I'm on board its basically useless

to show

[undone hemlock]

I think there should at least be the option to show everything

[bleak fulcrum]

@quick locust Swap recoil and firstshot kick places 🙏

It just looks better

It functions better

[willow oasis]

honestly it would be nice if recoil pattern was shown when you change attachments or fire your gun. i dont know what accuracy does now (imagine if there was descriptions/hints as well for those stats, but oh well, we need to wait another 3 mounths for those things to be implemented)

[bleak fulcrum]

There are no recoil patterns in the game

But yeah agree on adding lil descriptions to explain stats

[willow oasis]

ok, calculation of spread then

[bleak fulcrum]

It's random

It just jumps left/right and some amount up randomly

And majority will not even understand

How exactly recoil works

[undone hemlock]

I don’t think there’s really much calculation to be had there. It’s just values for how far it can deviate from the center, and that’s assuming you mean accuracy rather than recoil

Accuracy has several hidden values though

[bleak fulcrum]

So, unnecessary complexity

[undone hemlock]

Personally I would rather have such info somewhere in the game if not on the stats pages, but tbh for recoil it feels like it shouldn’t even be needed since it’s so simple and intuitive

[bleak fulcrum]

Its just unneccessary for majority of people, simple explanation of what that recoil value represents is enough

[undone hemlock]

Yeah

I’m just a fan of nice documentation

[bleak fulcrum]

Of course you are

[willow oasis]

its still would be nice to know some sort of representation what those numbers mean on some kind of target. how much kick that 1 vert recoil gives, max amount of jump from horizontal recoil, how accuracy modifier can deviate the bullet etc etc

[undone hemlock]

It could give the value in degrees I guess, but what’s the point?

You can’t visualise small angles like that

They’re scaled to numbers like 0.5, 1 and 2 to be simple to read

There is unnecessary information and then there is pointless information

[slate mango]

I mean recoil in this game is pretty straight foward for the most part

[willow oasis]

im talking about visual representation, like that:
green circle is the max bullet deviation, red - bullet hits, 1, 0.9, 0.8 - acc modifier

[chilly oriole]

I think get the white one @tired flume

[high frigate]

why is wire missing??

[chilly oriole]

?

[tired flume]

You’re getting the white one?

[chilly oriole]

because it's wireless

[chilly oriole]

Yea I think

[high frigate]

wireless?

[tired flume]

Nice

[chilly oriole]

Wireless

[high frigate]

isn’t that slow?

[chilly oriole]

2024

The doggle is for this

And v sync

[high frigate]

how many buttons?

[tired flume]

Four thousand

[chilly oriole]

4

[high frigate]

that is a non-trivial amount

[chilly oriole]

Not need more

[chilly oriole]

That a very light mouse

adding keys will add weight

[high frigate]

how bright?

[chilly oriole]

46g for this mouse

And the old one 42g

[high frigate]

what is that in lumens tho?

[chilly oriole]

Lumens ?

[main sundial]

https://www.twitch.tv/powers282

[chilly oriole]

@tired flume gold

[halcyon trellis]

For placeholders, they're weirdly intentional

Between the 3 guns we've seen, they're all under similar philosophy

The dmr reduced rof, the smgs reduced range

If they really weren't looking at a 920 rpm vector, there wouldn't be a 920 rpm vector

[rigid island]

Damn.

That’s a rarity nowadays.

[halcyon trellis]

Next best scenario is it's intentional trolling ig

[bleak fulcrum]

[halcyon trellis]

Well, it's now noted™ so hoping that at least rof goes back to normal

Would be disappointed if we lose lore accurate guns for balance reasons

[bleak fulcrum]

Yea it does sound like, nerfing vectors RPM for higher damage because it would become a massive bullet sponge gun

Half mag for one kill pepelaugh

[bleak fulcrum]

Good night pookies

[tired flume]

@tawdry steppe oh thats edgar?

or wtv

[tawdry steppe]

yeah

[tired flume]

ah that piece of shit

did he make another disc account

[chilly oriole]

Yea is me

[tired flume]

goat eco can NOT be unbased edgar

❌ it is not canon

[chilly oriole]

Oh yea sry I’m lying

[thick dawn]

ugh

Cat's in heat and the yodeling hasnt stopped

[narrow dune]

https://youtu.be/or3EX5VYc6c?si=v4Q1vs0dTacRrH0B

[undone hemlock]

This just looks slightly misleading. This implies the bullets form some kind of pattern due to the deviation. Anyone who knows how circles work will know what relationship between accuracy and potential area there will be already.

It just seems pointless. If people don’t understand you could have some documentation page somewhere in the game that explains the stats precisely and all they’d have to explain is that the deviation is proportional to 1-accuracy and the hit area created is proportional to the square of that

And accuracy barely even matters in this game, for the longest time people were arguing over whether it even existed in ADS (it does on like 3 guns, barely) and when hipfiring it only comes into play at over ~20m

[umbral tree]

Is there a way to get a 3d model or something like that of a map in battlebit?

[undone hemlock]

You can open it in unity explorer or whatever and hopefully it’s in a format such that you can extract most of the info easily

I’ve seen a couple of people do it before

[umbral tree]

Hmm alright, ill look into that. Thx

[vast berry]

GROZA SHIT

[spare surge]

since when does m249 have no recoil offhand

i remember it being pretty bad without a grip

[hushed radish]

What offhand

[spare surge]

offhand means not from the rest

like standing

[hushed radish]

It have slightly more horizontal recoil Than m4

It is almost like this

[willow oasis]

i wouldnt say that it barely matters, i missed a ton of shots due to random bullet spread . especialy on battle rifles with 0.75 acc modifier

[slate mango]

Thats the horizontal recoil talking, not random spread

[willow oasis]

On first shot?

Isn't recoil kicks in after the shot

[pliant cradle]

first shot always hits where you aim

• distance

[slate mango]

Correct

Thought he mean with subsequent shots

But yeah, single shots pretty much go where you point them at, minus bullet drop

So always take the drop in account

[opaque ingot]

What the fuck did I fall asleep to

[spare surge]

💀

[slate mango]

Ah yes my favorite content to fall asleep to: testing the assasination of donald trump

[undone hemlock]

There is zero spread on almost every gun in the game while aiming down sights.

The “accuracy” number in the UI is an average of four hidden accuracy values for different cases

[karmic prawn]

when can we get mag skins in bbr

[opaque ingot]

Yall are using guns?
Man I've just been using impact grenades, a rocket launcher and suicide c4.

I got over 400 kills with the last one

[crystal topaz]

Why all anime girls?

[karmic prawn]

[crystal topaz]

I dont think the bikini girl will make it

[karmic prawn]

[rigid flint]

anime tiddies

[karmic prawn]

[odd oasis]

that reminds me of

MAG PANTIES

[slate mango]

You must put this in the uhh suggestiom thread for mag skins

[karmic prawn]

I posted that as a joke

[slate mango]

https://discord.com/channels/303681520202285057/1237354226624106506

[karmic prawn]

not as a genuine suggestion

[slate mango]

Put this here now

[odd oasis]

#1237354226624106506 message

MAG PANTIES

[slate mango]

We are taking the matter of mag skins very seriously

[karmic prawn]

I just want the ability to paint every part of the gun a different skin

like, let me have a solid colour mag, a pattern 1 gun body and a pattern 2 barrel attachment

alongside that I want it to be a different skin for each part too

skin A pattern 1 for gun body, skin B solid colour for optics, skin C pattern 2 for mag

give me expanded customization options please

[rotund frost]

Anything new with you @slate mango

[slate mango]

Hi kissa

[rotund frost]

Yes hello

[slate mango]

And yes, there are news

Terrible ones

[rotund frost]

, go on

[slate mango]

Laptop may die

[rotund frost]

How come

[karmic prawn]

omg

the kissa

[rotund frost]

omg the bleh

nvm its a fake

[karmic prawn]

no

am real

[rotund frost]

cringe

[slate mango]

Its acting up and 3 keys on it stopped working all of a sudden

[karmic prawn]

wtf

shur up pissa

[rotund frost]

;_;

[rotund frost]

did you try pulling them off and cleaning

[slate mango]

Take this back

[karmic prawn]

no

kissa was mean to me

so I am mean to kissa

[rotund frost]

kissa be doing kissathings

dw

[slate mango]

Idk how to do it myself

And its not just the keys like i said

I'll take it to a repairman or something tmrw

[rotund frost]

better not to do it if they are flat like all of the other laptop keyboards

[slate mango]

They are indeed flat

[rotund frost]

Yeap

They like snapping

flimsy ass plastic

I would know

[slate mango]

Yes

[rotund frost]

Imma send a pic

:D

See something off?

, the D

[slate mango]

That D looking pretty funny

[rotund frost]

Yea fucked up by popping it out

, replaced it with the arrow key

:^)

[slate mango]

Its kinda funny how 3 random keys stopped working but not this one

[rotund frost]

:^D

[slate mango]

Mightve shown it here already idk

But W is mildly melted and nearly off

[rotund frost]

"melted"

laptop moment

What did you do to the 3 keys

[slate mango]

Attempting to run warzone had disastourous consequences

[rotund frost]

also how the hell do you keep a white laptop clean..

[slate mango]

Nothing

They just stopped working

Idk why

[slate mango]

I clean it regularly

And i dont make a big mess in general

[rotund frost]

Yea maybe im just messy

my whole keyboard is like greasy

[slate mango]

Ive seen far worse

[rigid flint]

just clean it every few years its going to be fine

[rotund frost]

also what did you mean by "acting up"

[rotund frost]

this

[slate mango]

This and some stuff isnt running normally

Like its slow and has more spikes in frames

[rotund frost]

atleast it hasnt blown up

something good

[slate mango]

For now

[rotund frost]

For now

[slate mango]

I'll take it to a guy and see whats wrong with it

[rotund frost]

Was it like this when you got back home

or did it just happen

[slate mango]

Literally yesterday all of a sudden

[rotund frost]

hurts

;_;

[slate mango]

Yeah

I am terribly displeased
But if its time has come, then so be it

Had it for like 5-6 years

[rotund frost]

it doesnt look too ol-

okay

[slate mango]

Yeah

Cant replace much on it anyways

[rotund frost]

once again, laptop moment

Where you taking it tomorrow?

"I'll take it to a guy"

[slate mango]

Like i said, to a guy

That does fixing on pcs and shit

[rotund frost]

hopefully this guy knows whats wrong wit it

[slate mango]

I hope its fixable

[rotund frost]

i mean, it doesnt look like an apple product

so it should be fixable

_>

[slate mango]

Its a lenovo laptop

[bleak fulcrum]

@runic grove like this into description

[slate mango]

Im still afraid it is time for a change

[rotund frost]

is it a bad thing?

[slate mango]

Which is gonna cost money

[rotund frost]

that is bad

[slate mango]

And i dont have a lot of it

[runic grove]

I see, I've never needed them, are you using resolve?

[odd oasis]

41:37 - Larry edging Goofy with AK Handguard

[cyan swift]

if so, thinkpad is ur answer

what a truly unfortunate looking vehicle

why did aston ever approve that thing

[rotund frost]

which one

both of them.

[cyan swift]

true honestly

[bleak fulcrum]

Davinci

[slate mango]

Im debating on either:
Getting an actual PC with good shit in it and a mid range laptop
Or
A really stronk laptop

[cyan swift]

good pc and mid laptop is the best option

good pc and a few years old thinkpad will give u everything u want

t480 gang

[rotund frost]

been thinking about desktop too

but shits scary

[runic grove]

Yes, so Resolve.. From what I understand if you use marker in DR at the chapter places, YT wil auto-chapter it.. again, I've not needed this, but I watched it in a video, from a DR CC..

[cyan swift]

pcs are ez

[runic grove]

Might be eaiser next time

[rotund frost]

the price is scary

[bleak fulcrum]

Gotta wait and see ig

[cyan swift]

u don’t gotta go super crazy on specs tbh

[slate mango]

Making a pc cheaper than buying a stronk laptop

[rotund frost]

I'm not even talking about the pc itself

I need a monitor, kb, desk and a chair

[cyan swift]

this is fair

[rotund frost]

;_;

[cyan swift]

the only one u can get really decent results out of super cheap things is the kb

don’t waste money on shit “gaming” keyboards

[slate mango]

Getting a keyboard is easy for me, im not asking much for that

[cyan swift]

wooting is the only answer u need

[rotund frost]

I mean I have couple working kbs ive dug out of the trash

so i got that covered

[slate mango]

As for monitors its tricky

[cyan swift]

u should give local pawn shops a look for monitor if u ever do get pc, i found mine at one and i stole the fucker

[slate mango]

I know nothing about them

[cyan swift]

80 bucks for a monitor still in production for 300 new

[rotund frost]

Feeling like I should get everything else before the pc

[cyan swift]

yes that’s good idea

[cyan swift]

only thing u gotta really look for is IPS panel and 120hz and over, after 144hz it’s diminishing returns and not very worth it

1080p looks good up to 24 inches and 1440 looks good up to 32 inches

27 is the 1440p sweet spot

[slate mango]

Got it

Thanks man

[cyan swift]

np

you may be tempted by cheaper options with a VA panel, but VA even with modern tech is still pretty bad

very very awful pixel blur in every case

[rotund frost]

me who doesnt even know what they mean by panel

⚰️

[cyan swift]

the screen itself

va is vertical alignment which provides deeper saturation n shit but it sucks for games because it doesn’t keep up with motion very well, everything looks blurry n smudged in motion

[rigid flint]

OLED

[cyan swift]

ips is more expensive (although marginally) and eliminates motion blurring

[cyan swift]

oled too expensive

mr money bags

[rigid flint]

tbf it only cost like 600 usd when i bought it

[cyan swift]

that is the cost of my entire computer

[rotund frost]

thats like two months worth of food

[cyan swift]

600usd is literally nearly my rent

[rotund frost]

💀

[rigid flint]

[narrow dune]

https://www.youtube.com/live/NWOYSJNNmJk?si=gx6g1XkWzGaHLKrA

Final day!

[hushed radish]

@simple prairie why would you do this?

[wet chasm]

@silk surge bro. privat video... (report)

[tired flume]

@viral sparrow you seem like the person that has a random tool that can turn a youtube playlist into mp3s

[simple prairie]

Seemed like a good idea at the time? “I’m sure this treacherous back stab won’t come back to haunt us.”

[viral sparrow]

google

gimme 20$ and ill tell you

[bleak fulcrum]

New vector if it had 17 damage

[tired flume]

light!?!? heavy?!? is this the finals :omg:

[bleak fulcrum]

Bro fug off

No finals

Just that armor durability is irrelevant in the futuuure

[tired flume]

yes finals

[viral sparrow]

not really a windows issue
was crowdstrike falcon
so anyone with consumer windows is fine (unless you work a remote job or installed crowdstrike)
3rd party software that alot of companies use broke
so pirated version of windows or not could be effected the same way as corporate computers (airlines etc)

simple null pointer in the code caused the issue

[tired flume]

i figured it out

[viral sparrow]

good

google helps alot doesnt it

[tired flume]

nah

[chilly oriole]

rappy snappy is out @vast berry

[solar wharf]

Cat posting because of #battlebit-eng message

[rigid flint]

KITTY

[vast berry]

i thought you weren't getting it

[chilly oriole]

I can access it with my wooting 60

[vast berry]

ahhh

you can't use the feature though can you!!?

is it software based?

[chilly oriole]

no I have access to it, it's based on the software

[runic grove]

Just an FYI - https://discord.com/channels/303681520202285057/1187100084962336910

I'm not complaining

[solar wharf]

Since when that was a thing

Thanks tho

[runic grove]

It was requested, so we added it a while ago now

[vast mason]

the third option is the non force updaters

[restive ice]

ok bro wtf

[bleak fulcrum]

Yeah.... Some balance guy is not cooking with this one

[restive ice]

how the fuck did they think it was ok

on top of all the nerfs vector had already + incoming ttk

[proud berry]

Such a massive but necessary oversimplification

[wintry orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328817840025108484/1264678095777169419/Sequence_01.mp4?ex=669ebec2&is=669d6d42&hm=78f4e0a2c7f33f7070ac6392e8e6b1c6fef331cc2e569df7f44a766e0c13a886&

[tawdry steppe]

These are placeholders right

Right

[wintry orbit]

Idk, m4 stats are the same as previous copecast so probably not

The mf redoing all the guns is schizo

Did the scorpion have the same treatment 💀

[junior shale]

"weight" and new runspeed values

[thick dawn]

Anyone here know if bbit runs on linux?

[crystal topaz]

Yes

It does with proton 8 i think. Just use what works but it definitely does

[thick dawn]

👍

Been wanting to switch for a while

Just confirming the games i play work on linux, rimworld, Pz, warframe, bbit

[crystal topaz]

Warframe works too it think

[thick dawn]

Great

All i'll need is a VM for Office suite

[leaden hare]

what device are you on

[thick dawn]

pc

[leaden hare]

why are u using office suite? idk what it is

[thick dawn]

Because i work with documents?

Word, Excel, PowerPoint?

[leaden hare]

sry never used officesuite, i thought you meant that you need to run a VM in OfficeSuite to play BBR 😭 makes sense now

[thick dawn]

kek

Had me worried for a moment there

[thick dawn]

There are alternatives + web version of the apps

But they're honestly not good

And i really use them, so VM will have to do

[leaden hare]

I seeee

[leaden hare]

what's wrong with the web versions? I havent really had a problem but i pretty much only use docs

[thick dawn]

First, iirc you have to pay for them and second they just dont feel as complete as the desktop apps

idk, google stuff isn't the same i work with big docs and google docs is meh for that (in my experience at least)

Who knows i might put some time and make a doc from scratch and see if the end result is the same

[leaden hare]

I don't pay anything, but yeah i hear what you're saying. The desktop app probably allows more control and customization over the documents, might try it out

[thick dawn]

For the office web apps i think you do

[dull fable]

pros don't even play with the vector anymore, does it need another nerf?

[leaden hare]

yes

nerf it more

[cyan wedge]

It's not even a vector anymore it's a fuckin mp5 🔥

[dull fable]

I think you need another nerf

[bleak fulcrum]

Weight is just control

[cyan wedge]

Very cool and much more obvious

[vast berry]

@hushed radish

[cyan wedge]

What

😭

[halcyon trellis]

blackhawk miniguns

[cyan wedge]

Wild 900rpm minigun

[hushed radish]

Carpal tunnel

[bleak fulcrum]

Minigun is 1200RPM

[hushed radish]

You can tune down the RPM on miniguns so maybe

[narrow dune]

https://youtu.be/3tvgLv5mhyE?si=NpXKgUiEPSRLNBob

[hushed radish]

@last granite

[steep dock]

3 nerfs, got to the point of where almost nobody uses it for serious matches (PDWs + UMP/mp5/skevo.. I need say more?) and they nerf it more

BR + support meta theory still holding up

Time to level up my g3 and AK15 for when that happens

[cyan wedge]

Inb4 ak15 finally becomes an assault rifle

Jk who am I kidding

[solar heath]

M4 best gun

[last granite]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-gif-16653606838521083623

[slate mango]

One day, when we get Ash-12
The real russian BR

Ak15 can then become AR

[hushed radish]

@simple prairie you failed

[cyan wedge]

Ak308 in the corner

[slate mango]

Ok but Ash 12 cooler

Ak308 can stay in the corner

[cyan wedge]

Oki but oki balancing

Mf probably thinks it's an amr

[slate mango]

But its cooler

[odd oasis]

[opaque ingot]

white

[rough basin]

Please never again

[solar heath]

[tired flume]

why light mode

[solar heath]

pwetty

[tired flume]

what did the eyes do to deserve everlasting pain

[opaque ingot]

behold

get flash banged fools

[tired flume]

[rocky basalt]

does anyone know the bolt speeds for the rifles

[hollow sun]

#off-topic message

[tired flume]

bro what

💀

[primal basalt]

dam

https://tenor.com/view/rollypolly-cat-love-in-kiss-gif-22827687

[thick dawn]

https://tenor.com/bDqjx.gif

[primal basalt]

https://imgur.com/NwxzGr6

[spare surge]

I wish my cat was like that

[crimson bridge]

https://youtu.be/BWw7posYab8 gun jesus got a video on the groza

[thick dawn]

🙏

[spare surge]

My friends called me jesus

But I don't even have a beard

[slate mango]

Groza my beloved

[tired flume]

NONE of your videos ever load for me

and its only you

[vast berry]

[summer bronze]

here's a dude

i was fighting in euro server like one hour ago and met this guy

before this match he got like 100+ kills with less than 30 death

and this dude only played BBR for like 2.6 hours

what a genius

[queen vector]

maybe an alt but you can only truly find out when spectating

[summer bronze]

idk how he knew that guy was there,and he just aim there directly

[spare surge]

Gone

[quick locust]

yes. aware. please do not create a witch hunt

[spare surge]

Please doxx him as soon as possible.

[quick locust]

[icy mountain]

@oak creek

[restive ice]

hackers

like phy cat

[dreamy notch]

phy cat stinks

[tired flume]

wtf

[dreamy notch]

omg blank hiiii

[tired flume]

hi icey

[runic grove]

Le Mans?

[icy mountain]

Aston Martin LMH

so tecnically yes but overall we will prob see it in more series

[runic grove]

Looks good

[oak creek]

Thats the aston? Damn it looks slick

[karmic prawn]

lost, my love

hello

[oak creek]

[oak creek]

[tired flume]

@oak creek what happened to the map

[oak creek]

🗺️

[tired flume]

The one in ur profile

[oak creek]

I found it

I had to super glue it to my forehead

now ill never lose the map again

[opaque fog]

so many trees, O I am lost Viktor

[opaque fog]

george pls

[karmic prawn]

Lost how are you so lovable

[oak creek]

Dont fuck with george and his 9 mil

[oak creek]

[young hearth]

can I be transferred to the Russian chat?

[opaque fog]

#information message

[royal shard]

https://fixupx.com/itsbasilbasil/status/1815501981089141047

new PC cranks out renders like nothing else

[junior shale]

only 1 leaderboard matters

[opaque ingot]

Rogue Soldiers: JOIN THE DISCORD PLEASE! PLEASE! PELAASE!

[winter surge]

what the fuck

And that shits in quickpay rotation that can be a player first experience with the game

[proud berry]

Better than BBC Dom

[winter surge]

You got some screen shots to along with it?

[proud berry]

That chat is wild

[proud berry]

I'm on mobile rn

I remember my first match on BBC Dom there was erp in my squad voip

[winter surge]

Im, all about expressing yourself in a safe and consenting environment but come the fuck on

[proud berry]

That's what they were trying to do

[winter surge]

I, imma just stop talking bout it now. hit me with the dms when you off mobile sometime

[proud berry]

I don't remember if I have much, but I'll try

[restive ice]

keep in mind i got muted in bbc for calling people noobs

and “impersonating”

[proud berry]

Cool

[vast berry]

@oak creek https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxqfLcvOEkLGsTjvoTt-f_NUL9-kVFqNwS?si=_HvfgfQ7pjbw4d2D

[vast berry]

you precious little sunflower

how are you not aware, of the debauchery?

[proud berry]

Boomer on boomer violence

[winter surge]

Please dont call me that

[vast berry]

it wasn't a compliment

[winter surge]

And no i do not play on the server

[winter surge]

Doesnt change my request

[vast berry]

if the RS one is surprising, yeah muddy is correct

the bbc chat is .......

very internet

[restive ice]

tts is dead…

[vast berry]

i don't like watching the last episode

i've only watched it twice

[proud berry]

It's hard for me to watch any tts now

[vast berry]

dude

the level of detail crammed into tts

is incredible

[proud berry]

I was there, the day GW slew TTS

[vast berry]

but yeah

[restive ice]

[vast berry]

jiggles i don't believe you're that naive

[restive ice]

the announcement

[proud berry]

I refuse to be a fan of an IP controlled by a public company

[vast berry]

um

lol

[proud berry]

No

[vast berry]

the bot had to appreciate that one for a second

LOL

[restive ice]

and price hikes too

[proud berry]

We won't talk about that

[restive ice]

[proud berry]

I've watched Star wars, 40k, and Marvel get butchered in the last 15 years

[lavish sail]

[winter surge]

Naive? No. Lacking in personal experience on the server? Yes

[vast berry]

40k isn't butchered

[proud berry]

I beef w/ the HH

I'm anti primarch

[vast berry]

doesn't make it a bad story

[proud berry]

It's fine

[vast berry]

to compare it with starwars and marvel

is not fine

[proud berry]

But 40k has always been a universe of unknowables to me

And to quantify myths into "realistic" characters ruins the vibe for ne

[vast berry]

how else would you progress the story

just have tyranids eat everything and end the company?

that's not profitable

[restive ice]

they brought the lion back

and just said fuck u to the fallen plot

[vast berry]

i enjoy his shit so far

[proud berry]

Unfortunately

[vast berry]

no

not unfortunately

[restive ice]

im a da fan but cmon…

[vast berry]

he ended the stupid fallen bullshit

i cannot wait for him to meet guil

[restive ice]

no bro that was more based than just forgiving them and cucking tje existing chapter

[vast berry]

it was such a good nail in the coffin for that whole stupid concept

[proud berry]

Honestly, I can tolerate the Lion and Gorillamang in 40k

[restive ice]

fallen was unique buh

[vast berry]

i always hated that regarded dark angels paranoia shit

they are not fucking stupid

[restive ice]

i am though

[proud berry]

But I really dislike knowing as much as we do about the actual heresy

[vast berry]

i haven't listened to the last novel

[restive ice]

i haven’t read all the hh series

[vast berry]

because i don't wanna know how the fight goes

so i understand

[restive ice]

only got the first 20-30 books

[proud berry]

Also them reconning the CGs to exist pre War in Heaven is absolutely bullshit

[restive ice]

cg?

[proud berry]

Chaos Gods

[restive ice]

oh

wait what

💀

i thought they existed after

bc of humanity ?

[proud berry]

There's no defense for that lore change other than chaos wanking authors

[vast berry]

explain and i'll correct

[restive ice]

icl i haven’t been as tapped in to the lore as i used to

[proud berry]

They existed after the WiH because of how fucked it was

Slaanesh was "born" last

[restive ice]

yeah the fall

[vast berry]

what are you saying was retconned

[vast berry]

explain this

[restive ice]

[lavish sail]

[restive ice]

stupid gw

[vast berry]

what the current 'explanation' for them, is good

[restive ice]

how would the chaos gods even work with old ones existing

[lavish sail]

[proud berry]

It's been a minute since I've been in the loop but iirc they changed the lore to indicate that the WiH was due to chaos shenanigans, not vice versa

[vast berry]

not

no

[restive ice]

wasnt the entire old ones race psykers though?

or

[proud berry]

Yes

They were ascended beings

[vast berry]

old ones were the first sentient life form

[proud berry]

That we know of*

[vast berry]

them or the pre-ctan

but

[restive ice]

but chaos gods

?how do they even fit in this

pre wih

[vast berry]

the chaos gods we know in cannon are just the human representations of the related emotions

[proud berry]

Chaos Gods are bundles of emotion that have formed "consciousness" due to the warp being so fucked

[vast berry]

there wasn't a nurgle or khorne back in WiH times

[proud berry]

They're debatably sentient

[vast berry]

it was just the warp

[proud berry]

Correct

[proud berry]

It was named the Realm of Souls at the time

It was peaceful and allowed for reincarnation

[vast berry]

so what are you saying is shit

[proud berry]

I don't fucking agree with the retcon

[restive ice]

[proud berry]

I think it's stupid and nonsensical

It has no logical base

And ignores lore

To wank chaos

[vast berry]

but ...... what i just explained is cannon

[restive ice]

slaanesh is pretty reasonable

[proud berry]

was canon

[vast berry]

is

[restive ice]

[proud berry]

I don't have a Twitter account anymore to go dredge the posts

Current day GW is Imp and Chaos wankers

[vast berry]

you only have to goto the two trayzn books for clarification

[proud berry]

I like both factions but I also like all the other 40k lore

[vast berry]

you're thinkin conspiracies

your mind is cluttered by muddy waters

but you can't be mad that GW wanks off the toy soldiers that sell most

[proud berry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/cvbx5e/on_chaos_predating_the_war_in_heaven/

[vast berry]

/shrug

[restive ice]

why necrons have 0 books

[proud berry]

Read it and weep

[restive ice]

):

[proud berry]

I'm just disappointed

[vast berry]

both necron book series are good

[proud berry]

True

Necrons are goated

[vast berry]

this is no longer a thing

bro

lol

[restive ice]

where

i have individual books

not series

[proud berry]

TIATD directly contradicts the lore here, however GW seems to ignore necrons lore outside of necrons books

[vast berry]

the twice-dead king series by Nate Crowley, and the Trazyn book infinite and the divine by Robert Rath

[vast berry]

this specific story line is not a thing now

[restive ice]

i have the second

[vast berry]

the twice-dead king series is about the Necron Flayers

they are VERY GOOD

first fuckin book has a really sad part

[restive ice]

flayers

[vast berry]

yeah

[restive ice]

[vast berry]

crying over a necron flayer

wtf

very good couple books

[restive ice]

[vast berry]

i can't wait for the lion to see robute

all they want is someone to talk to

[proud berry]

Ngl, as much as I wish it wasn't a primarch centered universe, same

[restive ice]

wait 2 more years when they add more over the top bullshit to sell more models

[proud berry]

I like the characters but I just wish the primarchs remained unknown, mythological beings who's actions and words are barely understood by any of modern humanity

[vast berry]

and it's so hilarious that lorgar won

[proud berry]

The Anchorite won*

Lorgar switched teams and now malds about how he made Biggie E into a god

[vast berry]

whoops

[proud berry]

Because Lorgar always loses

[vast berry]

one thing is true

they have a ton of ways to take everything

[lavish sail]

🫃

[proud berry]

I think my biggest problem with the HH is how it makes the second most devastating conflict in human history into a soap opera of socially inept brothers

[vast berry]

best fictional universe in existence

[proud berry]

Eh

[vast berry]

well, yeah that's exactly what it is

[proud berry]

Now it is

[vast berry]

it's a functional story now

[proud berry]

After 200 books of melodrama

[vast berry]

dude

wtf do you want lol

[proud berry]

I already said what I wanted

[vast berry]

you're being ridiculous

you don't want a story

[proud berry]

I don't want galactic scale story

[vast berry]

well it's a fuckin galactic scale setting

[proud berry]

I want personal ones

[vast berry]

/shrug

stick with fuckin Aos then

lol

i want to like aos

[proud berry]

I like the 40k books that focus on individual characters in (relative to the setting) minor conflicts

[vast berry]

i like the idea of nagash and felix

[proud berry]

Felix isn't in AoS

Yet

Maybe ever

Because the writers hate us

[vast berry]

oh are they strictly fantasy?

[proud berry]

Gotrek is in AoS

[vast berry]

ah yeah ok

i couldn't remember gotreks name

[proud berry]

He killed his way through the end of the world and into the new one

[restive ice]

i have never read aos

[vast berry]

fantasy boring shit

pass

[high frigate]

Is this some sick Isekai slashfic?

…because I am here for it if so

[vast berry]

magic and vampires and dwarves

[proud berry]

Bad take

[vast berry]

gay

[proud berry]

Pass

[proud berry]

You have 2 of those in 40k

[vast berry]

it's not called magic

buddy

[proud berry]

Ok you fucking psyker

Witch

Sorcerer

[vast berry]

THEY'RE CALLED SQUATS!!!! THERE'S NO NEED TO MAKE SILLY COMEDIC NAMES FOR THEM, MAGNUS

[proud berry]

Votaan now, actually

Well

Kin

[vast berry]

i think a votaan book is coming out soonish?

[proud berry]

Only like 3 years after release

This company is depressing

[vast berry]

ffs you're complainy tonight

what is wrong with you tonight

are you okay my friend

[proud berry]

Violently murdered any hype around the Eldar with the Ynarri books, starve necron players with only 2 series, and don't even acknowledge a cornerstone faction returning until years after the fact

[proud berry]

No

Not in the fucking slightest

Summer classes have me on suicide watch

[proud berry]

HFY is only cool if humanity has something worth beating

[vast berry]

buddy

you need

to do some drugs

[proud berry]

Absolutely not

[vast berry]

or the equivalent

[proud berry]

I'm more sober than an Amish Nun on the Moon

We could have had a true Eldar civil war

We should have story's of the Leagues of Votaan fighting bitter and brutal wars for profit

Put half the effort of the HH into a series on Necron Dynasty wars and intrigue

Take some unknown/ less utilized SM chapters and give them named characters and flesh out regions of the galaxy outside of Terra, Ultramar, and the Great Rift

I like the Tau, godless commies that they are, because they're responsible for an entire region of the galaxy having lore, maps, content, and a reason to exist

If you wanted to move the story forward in a really interesting way, I wouldn't have ripped the galaxy in half the way they did. Have the destruction of Cadia start the gradual expansion of the Eye of Terror, and then do the whole Gathering storm/ Guillotines wild ride, and then focus on how the imperium reacts to a primarch returning. Have primaris be an actually dangerous upgrade process for veteran Marines rather than just nu-marines, show how the Ynarri have friction with the older Eldar factions, and how major players in the imperium are deeply suspect of Guileheads consortment with xenos, even to the point of war

Introduce the votaan as they react to the Eye of Terror pressing into their territory, the sudden onslaught of demons and worse forcing them to go into the wider galaxy for resources and support, and the conflicts that brings with it

Have the Necrons start to take more notice of galactic affairs as the Imperium awakens and Chaos rises, are they going to unite against these new threats or infight until it's too late?

So many cool options thrown out for "my space marine is bigger than yours"

/rant

[restive ice]

id win

[proud berry]

So true

[vast berry]

you're not wrong

i don't see anything as 'thrown out' yet though

[proud berry]

The Ynarri apparently are

[vast berry]

i should have added an asterisk to anything

bc yeah i think you're right

at least in a form

i mean yvranne did resurrect robbieg

the eldar have become a plot device, not ended?

[proud berry]

I'm no fan of elves

But it's hard to hate them when GW beats them like a battered housewife

[vast berry]

i mean

they did ..... fuck up pretty good

(the eldar)

[proud berry]

They did

But that's then

I'm a current year hater

[stiff kindle]

@lean depot here’s an old screenshot

[rancid latch]

wtffff

[hushed radish]

Space marine

[rough basin]

Nice phycat cheater man

[stiff kindle]

[karmic prawn]

@stiff kindle

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-cat-level-infinity-gif-15287917168381984815

[rigid flint]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017

[hybrid flower]

https://tenor.com/view/messi-gif-23497836

[bleak fulcrum]

What poetry at the end

[crimson gulch]

Ze bug

[novel loom]

Pet him

[narrow dune]

https://youtu.be/pQl2BmhSCsA?si=XBpLUR27yrh0v4MY

https://youtu.be/tVvuR1Dp7IQ?si=DP1ZkaACe1AikGDP

https://youtu.be/9Sdss7AXask?si=rLoHThpe9Rzo4s8E

Huge news!

so many games, Where do we even begin!

[winter surge]

@hollow sun

[tired flume]

what site

[winter surge]

https://steamdb.info/calculator/

[tired flume]

30k hours erm

0.03$/hr for me

[tawdry steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[real trench]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-hello-hello-emoji-waving-emoji-emoji-waving-gif-22986037

@stiff kindle

[vivid seal]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[winter surge]

[stiff kindle]

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