off-topic

[oblique granite]

drone movement controls is above shooting gun 💀

[midnight tusk]

Just spend less time answering people here, and get to work. Or rest in peace at least. That significantly would help

[dusty frigate]

60 tick servers and 5 second respawns on a game like battlebit is fucked

[tiny briar]

I'd play official servers if the resp cd wasnt 7s

[scarlet fiber]

cs devs had stats and that went to hell in the end

[hollow steeple]

who said it must be a 254 map ? more variety in cqc would be cool to see oki

[proud berry]

This is a good conversation

[tiny briar]

254 is where most players are

[sudden field]

never used drones though idk

[sand hollow]

all reworks is just a million bushes and fields

[scarlet fiber]

the problem with stats is they are just that in the end looking for what people actually have to say in the end is better. cs, and ow went into this trap

[dull elm]

the goal is making 254 player work, not copy 16 vs 16 already exist gamemodes

[fiery warren]

That was rude. Show some respect man.

[scarlet fiber]

rush would 100% work in 254

[long depot]

Miramar 💀

[dusty frigate]

this is why you need more people in the team, you cant do all this work yourself. its not a bad thing to do that. like even i did shit with the battlebit api because i think it sucks

[proud berry]

254 rush new namak would be amazing fun\

[dusty frigate]

i basically rewrote the api and optimised it

[river bane]

Lower playercount gamemodes can be just as enjoyable on good maps

[scarlet fiber]

rush namak is already ass

[dull elm]

Sorry, we had 254 rush, it was a s*hit show, guys RPGing the beacon 24/7, game never moved forward more than 1 stage.

[marble sparrow]

nerf the rpg

[dusty frigate]

people want to and will help, you have the funds for this, use them

[scarlet fiber]

as i said before was it bad, or was it a bad implemention

[hollow steeple]

its not about gamemode, its the maps

[dull elm]

C4, frags?

[jagged chasm]

I dont have pictures, nor a map name, but there was a map on Phantom Forces on Roblox that recreated the Dust maps from Counter-Strike, into one map. It felt pretty big, but was mostly city/close quarters, so I dont know how well it would work in a 254 situation

[dusty frigate]

dont touch c4

leave c4 alone

[marble sparrow]

the rpg is a literal explosive sniper

[proud berry]

Trophy and make c4 only accessable to support

[modern viper]

No it was horrendous not the implantation

[proud berry]

(I had to try)

[dusty frigate]

also the rpg doesnt need a nerf either i dont agree with that

[long depot]

you can tell taht man mains support

[proud berry]

Im hustling ok

[fickle steeple]

Oki make gadets worth for every class and unique

[scarlet fiber]

i hate being killed by a rpg but it for sure dont need a nerf

[dull elm]

in short we tried rush 254 and it was really unplayable

[dusty frigate]

^

[long depot]

wants the strongest class in the game to be stronger gotta respect it ig

[rustic jackal]

binoculars

[marble sparrow]

or implement limits on how many people can use a class at one time or weapon

[raw onyx]

SlowYetThorough

[ashen jasper]

Then why did it work for Battlefield bad company 2 so well?

I wonder

[proud berry]

Second strongest after assault

[raw onyx]

how to get christmas m110

[dusty frigate]

yeah its so wild that people still think support needs a buff of any sort

[dull elm]

not 254 players is the key .

[long depot]

No.

[proud berry]

It's cause exo is fucking awful

[dull elm]

because it's lacking content

[ashen jasper]

Well they had more players on it than we have right now right?

[dusty frigate]

exo armour is overpowered as fuck lad

[weak osprey]

It didn't lmao, everyone hated the snow map where attackers came from the mountain, just shelling the houses

[scarlet fiber]

make each rush zone bigger and only use big maps, and add 4 extra points each zone and it might work

[fiery warren]

I loved the snow map. It was so fun to play on

[dusty frigate]

basically a whole glock mag to kill them, fucking the ttk that much is pretty wild

[dull elm]

Sniper - RPG nest that point

[dusty frigate]

as long as you have functioning hands you basically win every first fight as support

[spark field]

The problem with that is 254 is a lot of people to put in one map especially ones with more cramped spaces. trying to build maps around that idea is hard. but I do like the way that certain game modes scale the map size to different portions of the map. But with 254 you still need to have a way to space the people out. having all 254 run through a specific spot or choke point while choatic and some people love it does not hit well for all. disbursement of players especially in 254 sized servers needs some help via map layout guidance.

[proud berry]

Is tensa the consesus best map in the game?

[ashen jasper]

I ment on this specific gamemode btw. We only have rush 32v32 or something right? Not higher numbers. Didn't battlefield have higher numbers for it?

[dusty frigate]

i wouldnt think so

[proud berry]

Then what is

Personally I like new district but the rain is a massive turn off to a lot of people

[dull nexus]

There are a lot of things you're wasting your time on oki. Ima be honest, I understand you want to polish things first, with that being the case it will be years before you see results, and thats even if people stay, and if your content you eventually release is even good.

[dusty frigate]

i hate district but thats just an opinion thing the map isnt bad really

[weak osprey]

IT'S FUCKING POLLISH NOT POLISH

[hollow steeple]

Can't u make a platform, where ppl can develop their own maps and suggest them or make a poll to be added into the main game? Wouldn't that be less of a problem for the team?

[dusty frigate]

shit like zalfi makes me wanna shoot myself though

[spark field]

I enjoy the layout of tensa, with all the different roads and buildings it causes more flanking and spread out of players to make it feel better IMO

[river bane]

Old district was probably the consensus

[jagged chasm]

Tensa is definitely one of the most loved maps from what Ive seen

[proud berry]

I enjoy old and new district a lot

[dusty frigate]

i mean it obviously depends how you play the game

[proud berry]

Personally I'd like to see old district returned to the rotation

[dusty frigate]

like my favourite maps are namak and azagor

[hollow steeple]

like outsource the map problem to the community

[proud berry]

the tf2 approach

[midnight tusk]

That would create a one problem...

[jagged chasm]

lol I hate zalfi too, but so many people always vote for it 🤷‍♂️

[dusty frigate]

because crunch is very satisfying and gives me dopamine

[spark field]

so you like choke point play style or what is your style you'd say?

[proud berry]

Zalfi is fun in the mid and then is ass outside of it

[scarlet fiber]

adderal

[wanton quartz]

Having a community workshop for maps and gamemodes as well as an official map pool that the official servers take from it would be very cool.

[dusty frigate]

my playstyle is very movement oriented, i have memorized a bunch of routes for loads of situations, know exactly how far i can jump based on my velocity, etc etc, so i end up in groups of people quite easily and spray down or c4

[proper jay]

hey oki why was map voting roulette removed in the first place?

[hollow steeple]

If the team can't solve the problem, give it to the community, we are thousands of ppl who could potentionally solve it for u guys

[wanton quartz]

Complainers

[scarlet fiber]

i am also suprised BBR dont have simple stuff like achievements, trading cards, and point store stuff

[proud berry]

That's the most complicated way I have ever seen someone say they're a bhopper

[dusty frigate]

or recently AP mine because c4 feels like its been nerfed even though the changelog doesnt say so

[proud berry]

It's slow now

[dusty frigate]

uhh i mean sorta? if you watch me play its a bit more than just that but more or less

[proper jay]

28 out of 238 players dislike map voting roulette. surely oki wouldn't just like, change something that makes 90% of players unhappy, right?

[dusty frigate]

like i played the fuck outta kz in cs

and hns

[dull elm]

Anyway guys, it has been 2 hour I have been here, there is one crash issue with servers that I was investigating, I will return to that.

In short, we are just couple of dudes who gathered to make a game which we enjoy, we had way too much technical challenges, we never been able to sit completely on design which none of us had experience in design.

In 7 year, we tried, experimented, seen what works, what doesn't works and made it to this far. Examined other games when we could, we stuck at 254 player server's game design because there are no other games we can just learn from so we are left at just experimenting until getting it right.

[proud berry]

Fair enough I guess

For what it's worth the games still fun but could be so much more and people get frustrated over that

[dusty frigate]

we get that, thats totally fair, just listen to us, you have to realise for the game to do well you cant make the game for yourself, you have to make it for the people

[scarlet fiber]

wtf do you mean the server crashed while you were on it and some people didnt get saved progression

[proper jay]

curiously has to go the moment he gets asked why map voting roulette was removed

interesting

[spark field]

So personally, how would you build a map that you think would suit your style and others? a mix of tensa and waki? so close quarters on the main part and litte more space on the outskirts? or reversed

[dull elm]

There was one case which I fixed but apparently there is one more case, I am looking into it.

[dusty frigate]

yeah kinda i guess

like a mix between namak and frugis would go hard as fuck

[dull nexus]

If you seriously want some additional help from someone who's been in the industry oki. I left you a dm.

[dull elm]

Again, experimenting and trying to understand really which one works, it's back and forth.

[proud berry]

People are complaining about oki fixing the game now 💀

[dusty frigate]

nobody is complaining, we all want to see the game do well

[proper jay]

im complaining precisely because i like the game and im saddened by what's happening to it

[olive steppe]

what fix💀

[proud berry]

Imagine frugis skyscrapers with interiors

[proud berry]

Server crash patching

[weak osprey]

Good thing it's mostly white/grey names

[dusty frigate]

also random one, did you retroactively fix the progression thing cos yesterday i swear i went from 193 to 200

[proud berry]

My prejudices are further justified

[proper jay]

being terminally online is not a virtue

[spark field]

I'd be down for that. I do love the quick in your face battles sometimes but others I love longer distance gunfights. I feel a lot of the maps tend to be one or the other and they tend to pop up frequently which also kills the game for some players. like the slower ones that one longer range fights being forced into dog piles round after round

[scarlet fiber]

i am not complaining i love the game and only want the best for it. i am sad that i have to go and look for other games because how the dev team has acted and what direction the game has taken. i bought and arcade shooter and its just going back to straight milsim, and i hate milsim

[proud berry]

The games been getting more arcady since release?

[hollow steeple]

yeah milsim is something is also dont like

[quick locust]

There’s nothing milsim about it.

[weak osprey]

Muh removal of lean spam

[dusty frigate]

indeed, thats why i like shit like namak because if you want the crazy in your face shit then you can go to C, otherwise you can play around it going site to site with some cqc but also util usage and mid range fights

[proud berry]

Fuck the siege players

[scarlet fiber]

holy clueless

[dusty frigate]

same with frugis

[quick locust]

Arma is milsim.

[dusty frigate]

yeah you should play the game once in a while

[weak osprey]

I'm sad oki said he hates frugis. One of my fav maps :(

[dusty frigate]

everyone is entitled to their opinion lad

[proud berry]

Namak and Frugis allow for run around and gun while also careful, tactical gameplay. Ive tried both and done well with both on those maps

[proper jay]

frugis best map

[weak osprey]

Did I say he couldn't hate it?

[vocal plaza]

this of course means nothing else can ever also be milsim

[quick locust]

Forgot I should do that

[tiny cairn]

Nah screw every movement give me turret simulator

[quick locust]

Your words not mine

[dusty frigate]

exactly thats why i love them

similiar with azagor

[proper jay]

i like not having to run across empty fields for 5 minutes before i get to a point

[scarlet fiber]

i want my orbital cannon

[dull elm]

And one thing to say is, I seen a lot of downs, nightmares, ups, good times during 7 years, all the time, we moved forward despite people called us, 'dead game before released', called it trash, send a lot of hate.

At the end, we experimented, changed some stuff fundamentally and got it to point where it got right and it liked, we liked it. So, I learned, without trying, experimenting, things doesn't move on. I can understand the hate for we trying different things making you worry we are changing the core gameplay, but, you have to give us room to try things.

[hollow steeple]

if fugris was more wider/open in the tunnels and more variety in taking cover, it would be a cool map tho

[proud berry]

I thought we had the discussion about the maps being milsim but the game being arcady

[dusty frigate]

try things on a test server then instead of forcing it on us

[weak osprey]

That literally got announced

[proud berry]

Frugis allows for building your own forts rather than getting funneled into map forts (outside of the tunnels)

[wanton quartz]

This but not just about gameplay. I wasnt gonna take a principled stance on movement and say "if you change it I'm leaving", I was actually going to give it a shot. But I will take a principled stance on how they treat their players and core content creators. The Robo situation has left me with a bad taste in my mouth and I'm really not sure if they will ever be willing to do what it takes to fix that.

[dusty frigate]

then perfect

[dull elm]

Exactly, I didn't pushed it any of those changes, literally reserved it for test server. (I could have pushed it on this build and let it go)

[vocal plaza]

changing things when u have a player base that likes the game lots is very different to experimenting with things in development

[dusty frigate]

positive steps then, i respect that

also sidenote new smokes piss me off

[dull elm]

But, we have to try one way or another, at the end, I want to make it stand long term, not just save the today or tomorrow.

[opaque ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408071248426434560/1139107583316209746/ezgif-2-39e65e734a.gif

[woven isle]

tbh, do whatever you think is appropriate for the game. the fact that you allow people to voice their opinion is already better than most games out there.

[scarlet fiber]

again its a good start, but i am going to wait to see if you actually listen to feedback before i praise it

[vocal plaza]

how does alienating a large portion of ur current playerbase help in the long term?

[proud berry]

conversations like this in chat are also a good thing

[tiny cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1099658675632754691/1179892442565185707/tyyyy.gif?ex=657b6f77&is=6568fa77&hm=f857209598deaa22540a27fa1003fbe23cc4e8cf5874bedd821e77ef301061eb&

[hollow steeple]

also oki is the custom map thingy still up somewhere in the future ?

[dull elm]

I generally never had time to look at the main discord, I was maintaining servers 24/7 and dealing with some dramas most of you not aware, some legal stuff, and dealing with DDoSes.

[hollow steeple]

actually, is there a roadmap for 2024/25 ?

[scarlet fiber]

did you atleast have time to masturbation

[dusty frigate]

^^ this is important

[boreal notch]

new smokes are pretty good, advancing and flanking is more easier now

[dull elm]

I upgraded to a gf

[scarlet fiber]

holy

[weak osprey]

This explains a lot

[rustic jackal]

thats why no update

[icy void]

Yooo congrats

[dusty frigate]

LOOOL

[proud berry]

W Oki

[trail hatch]

🥱 good night fellas

[proud berry]

night

[dull elm]

I am not kidding, the release was a disaster for me, I was up literal all time, working on server issues, routing issues, bugged servers, the people who were harassing any big streamers, people who spamming our official emails, people who were writing me on my personal phone, the endless DDoS servers

I never had time to get into feedback and read something and understand what it was

[proud berry]

That puts a lot of stuff into context

[dull elm]

at the end I was really tired but really sad seeing the downfall so I called some players to help me gather feedback which is the feedback team.

[icy void]

People don't understand you're not blizzard-activision or valve or whatev

You're like 3 peeps with limited time and resources

[rustic jackal]

I mean Oki tbf you're not that short in resources you could hire people for server maintenance and the like?

[wanton quartz]

Is there a reason you dont hire more devs to help with this?

[scarlet fiber]

my man they are millionares its not like they cant hire people

[wanton quartz]

Is it a cost issue?

[dull elm]

Now we have resources but we learned that, throwing money is not helping it.

[dusty frigate]

i mean you need more engineers

[proud berry]

Its not like new devs grow from trees they take time to train and integrate

[dusty frigate]

you at the very least need to contract a backend engineer for the api

[hollow steeple]

not that easy tho

[dusty frigate]

the api right now is objectively bad

this is my area of expertise in my work

[spark field]

I know money is always a restraint but why not bring on some people to assist with the dev stuff? I know you all brought some for modeling and what not but what about server and engine devlopment?

[dull elm]

I am not joking, bugging the code base is really easy, I made the game very fragile to achieve this optimization, if I had the resources before early access, I would hire developers and make sure they can work with the code base. But at this point, I cannot do that because I have to teach the code base, all the rare conditions they have to remember, check their code, and test it which suprise, it's easier and faster for me to do it my slef.

Other than coding, we already hired on other areas and still hiring

[rocky flower]

we still need more support guns

[proud berry]

We already got rpk this year, lets not get too greedy

[scarlet fiber]

-Vilaskis +anyone with skill

[hollow steeple]

is your code well structured/commented ?

[dull elm]

Hey monti, been a while.

[rocky flower]

hey oki
hows it goin out there

[dull elm]

There are a lot of rare conditions you have to remember, it's heavily multithreaded

there are comments but they are not made a for team of people

[hollow steeple]

ouch

[dusty frigate]

okay oki, this is wrong, i work in software engineering, you need to defer the workload. the time it takes to get everyone up to scratch in the long run will end up with higher quality and faster code (both performance and actual workload wise)

[hollow steeple]

yeah gl for other devs to read this code

[scarlet fiber]

its unity mate its not rocket science

[dusty frigate]

its c# bro

its english

[slow wagon]

[hollow steeple]

still, it's not easy to read someone else's code, epecially in a advanced stage

[dull elm]

True, however I really cannot afford fixing someone else's bug at the moment at this fall rate

[spark field]

would it not be better to start and work through that earlier rather than later down the line as it continues to get more complex? or are you planning a restructure it for legibility and such?

[dull elm]

rework, nah that would be a just nightmate for nothing.

[wanton quartz]

This is only going to get worse as time goes on. Getting someone familiar with the codebase, working on documentation, etc. now is going to be much easier than in the future.

[dusty frigate]

but fixing your own bugs is no problem?

[fickle steeple]

?

[hard tree]

hi guys, there is information when there will be a discount on the game

[dull elm]

Getting entire codebase documented would take at least 2-3 months, it's large.

[dusty frigate]

woot.

[vale wyvern]

rapid trigger

[thick swallow]

estimated LOC?

[dull elm]

At least when I make a bug my own, I can investigate fast and fix it without hurting performance.

[wanton quartz]

But think of how much developement you can get done after that.

With multiple people working on it at a time

[fickle steeple]

U know i'am wooting bitch

[rocky flower]

greed consumes me
i require more gun
more boom

[proud berry]

Fair enough

[proud berry]

Obligatory MG3 when

[scarlet fiber]

that sounds like the ability of any game developer

[dusty frigate]

"investigate fast and fix it", so when are you going to start doing that?

[rustic jackal]

What about the lengthy time that community servers were down a team would solve this much faster

[wanton quartz]

Also if you do end up hiring more people, I think you'll notice that you will have to take on a more managerial position, rather than worrying about the time it takes for you to program stuff. So that's something to keep in mind as well.

[dull elm]

If you have worked with a team of people before, the amount of bug generally goes more while optimization is also the target.

[scarlet fiber]

i worked with a team of 20 students to make a vr game

[dull elm]

You cannot argue BattleBit one of least buggy early access games for it's scope and number of people working on it.

[proud berry]

That is true

[scarlet fiber]

i love when i cant shot my gun in a fps game

[dusty frigate]

yeah least buggy i love when i try and join server and stay in queue of 70 to get code 0 dc where i have to close the game to get out of that because theres no leave queue button

[dull elm]

Tell me a unity game that is running 60hz - 254 players CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, and destruction vehicles etc.

[wanton quartz]

People complaining about netcode and bugs are delusional. They have probably not played many aaa games in a while

[neon oak]

But dont we all strive to go higher and better?

[dusty frigate]

this is why you have multiple engineers, in a few months you will be in a much better place to be fixing stuff and making new content

[hollow steeple]

likely none cus of netcode

[scarlet fiber]

dude you have roblox graphics dont put yourself to high on the throne

[dusty frigate]

lmfao

[errant nova]

Graphics dont mean shit

[dull elm]

graphics vs CPU requirment for amount of stuff happening are complete different LOL

[neon oak]

Indie games are popular bc they are different, something really big must happen to bring BBR back into the scopes of the public since it is to most people another battlefield clone

[fickle steeple]

You know roblox can have aaa graphics

[proud berry]

Personally I'd say spend the first part of 2024 onboarding new backend assistance and then spend the rest of the year building out and polishing the game where required

[proud berry]

But I'm a dipshit college student and that process isn't so simple so what do I know really

[dusty basalt]

check out my setup

[dusty frigate]

handling 254 udp connections and handling ticks is very easy to optimise on such a scale.

[hollow steeple]

bigger player count -> bigger netcode -> more problems so yeah there is a reason why big game devs are not making 254 player maps in general

[rustic jackal]

This argument doesn't work when 127v127 is heavily advertised and is a large selling point of the game

[dull elm]

That explains how you are not aware the challenges lol

Anyway

[dull elm]

Be my guest, keeping it running on 2 threads only, keep all server side destruction etc, and keep it smooth, not lag and so on.

[dusty frigate]

lets drop the ego oki and have a normal conversation because i work for a company that handles hundreds of thousands of requests per minute

[vocal plaza]

oki talking down to people for no reason, a tale as old as time

[dusty frigate]

sometimes millions

[scarlet fiber]

give us source code if you are gonna challange us like that

[dusty frigate]

so pack that in immediately

[hollow steeple]

ikik i just can't tell any game with those numbers, so oki has to fix something big game devs are refusing to

[dusty frigate]

i'd like to remind you that you send 3MB of json data on each api call

[icy shale]

Anyway

[dusty frigate]

and you're chatting to me about optimisation

[fickle steeple]

Anyway

[thick swallow]

pls give us read only access to ur stats db

[scarlet fiber]

when are you gonna do a good job?

[weak osprey]

Anyway

[rocky flower]

anyway?🤨

[dull elm]

the public API vs internal are complete different LOL

[icy shale]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-fortnite-battle-royale-thanos-marvel-gif-18688488

[thick swallow]

can u pls drop the internal api

[dusty frigate]

ok?

i rewrote the public api and optimised it in literally 3 hours oki

[fickle steeple]

Oki pls add sex update

[dusty frigate]

https://github.com/damaredayo/better-battlebit-api

[vale wyvern]

she gets the boot if we dont get old district back

[fresh quiver]

Shatterline 🐐

[hollow steeple]

AdultBit in shambles

[rustic jackal]

THREE HOURS

[dull elm]

By compressing what public api returns, big achievement lol

Anyway, this is becoming a piss race which I did not sign for,

[dusty frigate]

? read the code

[rustic jackal]

he wont

[scarlet fiber]

Hes ego is to big to actually see someone make hes work better

[midnight tusk]

MongoDB

[proud berry]

Ok the convo has moved to weird tech stuff I'm gonna go do my finals work now

[thick swallow]

MNG

[dusty frigate]

what it actually does is take the data every 10 seconds on a seperate thread and throw it in a mongo db and then perform aggregations on that to then have queries that are performed in milliseconds

[vale wyvern]

the finals game pretty good

[scarlet fiber]

maybe if you drank less of your own piss you would be able to make a good game

[dusty frigate]

LMAOO

[dull elm]

I am sure you guys need a prove a point, anyway

[dull elm]

Thanks for the advice

[woven isle]

y'all are so comfy talking shit. i'm actually impressed...

[scarlet fiber]

np my dms are open any time

[rustic jackal]

Time to go talk to my VR chat girlfriend

[rocky flower]

fr

[dusty frigate]

dont chat shit about performance to me when you get mogged by me any day of the week

[dusty frigate]

i dont wanna have a go but like come on

well, theres the ego problem i was told about

[errant nova]

You were both flexing egos ngl

[dusty frigate]

i was just matching what he was putting up

[rustic jackal]

and one was saying they were open to feedback and suggestions

[formal seal]

why cant i find the bag or helmet in game

[midnight tusk]

Be simple, that's our professional disease. Almost everyone have that

[formal seal]

usaf bag and helmet arent there

[slow wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1129829246416724011/1131367435967152229/clownsdetected.gif

[dusty frigate]

i dont actually i love lsd too much to have an ego

:^)

[sand hollow]

left right left right

[slow wagon]

I love this was provided to me earlier it was destined to be posted again.

[agile moth]

Locker

[fickle steeple]

Yes

[dull elm]

Locker with 254 👀. That... would be disaster, imagine 30 guys on a single door.

[agile moth]

My drones 😈😈😈

[thick swallow]

imagine the c4 crunch

[fickle steeple]

Perfect map

[dusty frigate]

ever played namak

[neon oak]

remove c4 and make enemies colide with riot shield

[dusty frigate]

thats fun as fuck

[thick swallow]

i love old namak

[hollow steeple]

i played locker 6 years in a 64 player server, this was actually the best thing happend to bf4 and why its still alive today

[agile moth]

He’s noob

[rustic jackal]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[dusty frigate]

that much is clear

[dull elm]

on 64 yea, but 254, that's...

[hollow steeple]

i still play sometime tho

[agile moth]

Add a locker style map oki plez

[neon oak]

awesome

[fickle steeple]

Tbh i prefer metro

[hollow steeple]

metro was ok too

[rustic jackal]

Yeah honestly a copy paste of locker would be the best map in the game so far

[hollow steeple]

didnt played it that much

[neon oak]

there, finished your sentence for you

[fickle steeple]

And locker and metro

[agile moth]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-animation-cartoons-gif-16276467

[sage raft]

Yeah lemme quickly copy the map design of an BF map, no way EA will sue /s

[thick swallow]

Zalfi

[rustic jackal]

Zalfi

[hollow steeple]

yeah oki we want locker and metro future custom map ?

[fickle steeple]

Also we can copypaste metro and remove frugis

[scarlet fiber]

thats fun, the chaos is fun. i want some dude to run up to me with a strap on without me knowing

[dull elm]

Technically community can, but we officially cannot do that.

[hollow steeple]

with offical progress on community server ?

that would be dope

[dull elm]

meat grind?

[rustic jackal]

So we have to get the maps we want from the community

[dusty frigate]

maybe its time to make our own rankings and just stop caring abt official progression

[dull elm]

if it's a 1 to 1 copy. correct.

[hollow steeple]

its a heavy competitive wise map, so idk about meat grind

[fickle steeple]

@dull elm we want real clusterfuck and remove frugis

[dull elm]

there were someone above, who loved frugis, what's wrong with it (personally I hate that map too)

[hollow steeple]

i didnt played locker cus of meat grind because of the competition it was always on there

[dull elm]

it was fun

[scarlet fiber]

ofc Vilaskis aint gonna do a w in a long time by the stats on my excal sheet

[neon oak]

Frugis is great

is top tier map

[dusty frigate]

the only issue with frugis is the metro system is superfluous

[hazy nova]

never cause vilaskis would be out a job

[hollow steeple]

i mean u actually had to think about how to push, it was actually a good tactical map

[rustic jackal]

arent u the dev though? and like dont you literally talk to vilaskis

[dull elm]

for what I realized, the moment player numbers drops, it becomes more tectical and managable and more fun...

[rocky flower]

@dull elm
when koth?

[rustic jackal]

If you hate the map wouldn't you literally do anything about it

[dull elm]

Despite I don't like it, there is a definitely an audience who likes it

[scarlet fiber]

if i want tactical gameplay imma play arma

[dusty frigate]

so its random to if you listen to the community or not?

[rustic jackal]

Couldn't u argue the same for movement and arcade style gameplay

[hazy nova]

honestly all the maps suck atm, old district got removed and vilaskis new maps are getting worse each and every time

[fickle steeple]

#1183520432012415026 message

[hollow steeple]

cqc tactical maps in general is something we could see more in the future, its a nice competition for us/everyone

[hazy nova]

if the devs agree with it theyl change it and if they dont even if the the community does agree with it they wont change it

[dull elm]

I don't have problem with arcade movement and style, only problem is, anything we are adding as feature is useless because of those mechanics, making me think if it was the right choice or how can we make it work.

[lofty trout]

if i have lean spam configured into my mouse software to one of my 4 extra buttons
would that be considered cheaitng 🤔

[hollow steeple]

u can make use of every gadget on those maps

[hazy nova]

i mean game died as mil sim and now you added more mil sim stuff its dying

[scarlet fiber]

make it work in milsim mode and leave the base game arcade

[fickle steeple]

Do you agree. #1183520432012415026 message

[dusty frigate]

the switch statement in question:

[neon oak]

game is dying bc it has nothing new to offer and the hype is gone

[sage raft]

He literally made the game more arcady by increasing bandage speed and bandage HP from 40 to 50

[dull elm]

I don't think current gameplay loop is a 'Fun' gameplay for long term, it's fun for couple hours maybe, but later?

[scarlet fiber]

i think it is

[loud flame]

ive been playing for 8 hours now having a blast what u mean

[hazy nova]

the game got less people now than in playtest

[scarlet fiber]

if you dont think its fun atleast make a arcade mode

[dull elm]

who are we kidding

we obviously have issues

look at this

[neon oak]

the hype is gone, in the playtests, it was for a limited time

[dull elm]

despressing failure

[sage raft]

I mean the game is pretty shallow tbh

[dull elm]

I see this as a faliure, not a success (not sarcasm)

[hollow steeple]

its because of rivals

[dull elm]

not mentioning the free weekend or rivals

general

[hollow steeple]

ppl play the game as their fav streamer, the moment the streamer leaves, ppl also leave

not your problem

[loud flame]

who would have tought forcing the new people invasion was a good idea?

[dull elm]

if game is unable to hold people this much, we clearly lacked a lot of things in game from start.

[hollow steeple]

thats a twitch thing

[midnight tusk]

Remembered good old times, where there played at least 20 people, and nothin'

And now people complain aboyu 10k CCU is equals dead game

[hazy nova]

in the playtest, you didnt have the amount of free advertising battlebit did have such as twitch rivals x2 and home page of steam, there are more people now aware and owning battlebit then there was during playtest by a lot but theres less players still

[dusty frigate]

yeah what you did with robo has really solidified a decrease in playercount now

[sage raft]

"forcing" - people voting it everytime

[copper shore]

i think if devs cared about the game supports wouldn't have the fal

[scarlet fiber]

and soon a bunch of the BBR streamers are gonna be gone also

[dull elm]

indeed.

[dusty frigate]

biggest streamer is quitting the game, as well as cateat in general is quitting mostly

[loud prawn]

Finished grinding the gold FAL

[rocky flower]

missing support guns ye

[dusty frigate]

people want to watch high octane skilled gameplay

[hazy nova]

tbf game got no content scene cause the game itself got no good content

[loud flame]

did that not happen each time a new mode got released , learn from ur mistakes perhaps

[scarlet fiber]

narxa, nightdrive (maybe), snooozn (maybe), robo, and boos

[uneven ravine]

Game is in a good state but yeah, need more support guns

[neon oak]

bc it brought a lot of people to try and get to be able to play during the limited time, the gameplay loop rn is really boring and repetitive, nothing new in game rn

[modern bone]

this

[hazy nova]

all the old clans quit ages ago as well theres nobody from playtest

[hollow steeple]

just because the player number is low doesn't automatically mean game is dead already, idk why most ppl think that way

[rustic jackal]

HE IS COOKING

[hazy nova]

no the devs just incompetent and have made the game a worse product then in playtests

[dull elm]

not dead, but having this low player retantion is a sign of issues in the game

[neon oak]

explain, give examples of where it went wrong

[wanton quartz]

The problem with this is that the way you are currently thinking about fixing this issue is to nerf the things that players like me like. An example you said was that dragging players wasnt optimal because you can just run in circles. While I agree that some things become suboptimal with the arcadey features, I disagree that it changes how it feels for those who dont want to play the game like that. If you dont like the movement, for example, you dont have to. If you want to drag players to cover before you heal them, you can.

[midnight tusk]

In business way, game is dead when it stop generating income

But for BB that's hard to implicit, game mainly treated as magnum opus, nothing else

[plain urchin]

I honestly think it might be a skill gap problem. People join for a free weekend and someone from catEat drops 300 on them in invasion

[sage raft]

But what about the content Idea I sent you oki?

[dusty frigate]

yeah exactly man, this is what i've been saying. i love battlebit and the potential it has but theres so much you should have done for retention

[scarlet fiber]

you are making so many changes you are driving people away. i just wanna play BBR but what even is BBR

[sage raft]

Or not you directly, but I sent it to Snoman and Larry

[dull elm]

The problem is, anyone who wants to play with dragging their team mate, they are overplayed by those arcady mechanics, making it complete disadvantage. In short, we are making our own features a disadvantage.

[loud flame]

what about going free to play with a battlepass or shop or whatever

[rustic jackal]

i think a milsim mode could fix this

[plain urchin]

The game is already so cheap, I dont see it as a barrier to entry

[hazy nova]

ttk changes, nerfed all ars before release giving the vector meta everyone complained about, active removal of good content from game, hit reg and server issues getting way worse, nerfing engineer so it was no longer meta, addition of new worse content like the zalsifay bay or any of the new vilaskis maps

[tame yarrow]

yeah the feature that snipers shoot gps routes in laser form is definitely a disadvantage pandering to players that dont know how to use smokes/cover/maps/etc.

[dull elm]

that's just cheap way to boost it, not actually fixing the issue

[scarlet fiber]

add levels, and prestige to gadgets and guns so people can work on leveling their weapons also

[dusty frigate]

well the thing is now, it doesnt matter what you do for retention wont make much difference now without something to boost it

[hazy nova]

game slowly becoming more mil sim which is like fine if thats the way the devs want but nobody likes playing mil sim games really and thats why its a dead genre especially a mil sim game that looks like roblox

[loud flame]

^

[agile moth]

Add airstrike

[wanton quartz]

I dont see that happening at all. I've said thiss many times before, but as someone who plays in very sweaty lobbies with a lot of people who do use these arcadey features, I very rarely encounter them. I encounter them even less when I am playing in official servers. For movement in particular I actually went through footage of my games to see how much I see other people using the arcadey movement and I found that it was even less than I expected. The only thing that I can think of that would look a little weird to casual players that they probably encounter quite a bit is people leaning, which I think is in a fine spot right now in terms of viability.

[dusty frigate]

yeah i dont like milsims at all

[dull elm]

there is no need to hype people while there is no progress, that's just dissapointment.

[hazy nova]

add mortars ong no cap, add anti air capabilities

[agile moth]

Add stingers fr

[dusty frigate]

indeed it is disappointment, you took the words out of my mouth.

[scarlet fiber]

#off-topic message

[rustic jackal]

I'm do not listen for suggestions. They all being ignored.

I do listen for feedback only to spot problems that I may miss.

[hazy nova]

nobody apart from like 40 year old dads like mil sims cause theres virutally no skill involved

[hazy nova]

W vilaskis

[loud flame]

i still think its normal for these games to fall in playerbase and content bringing them back

[agile moth]

How did that screenshot even leave patreon channel lmao

[sage raft]

What are you guys on, nobody is going to grind for skins or anything if the game is shallow

[jagged chasm]

for the record, I am hooked... ive put in 150 hours in the past 3 weeks 😦

[opaque ingot]

oof

[slate mango]

I mean there are people that like milsims and i kinda dig them myself, but i def dont want it in casual here

[hazy nova]

still find it funny that if you boot up one of vilaskis unturned maps and put it next to a battlebit map it looks exactly the same with the same asets

[dull elm]

levels like maps or?
gadgets behind prestige is hard because general players doesn't reach to prestige one, making them disadvantage,
leveling guns, that's something I am thinking but haven't finalized on something solid yet.

[hazy nova]

really small niche thats not really vialbe

[dull elm]

Glad to hear, but I wish the game was on better place.

[opaque ingot]

When will the PKM be added, that's the important question in this discussion?!?

[sage raft]

Milsim not viable: Meanwhile Squad with 12,000 people right now

[primal onyx]

0

[hollow steeple]

to compare it to bf4, the game had a good balance for every gun in the game, the ttk was kinda the same on every gun, if we can work on that that would create a good variety of options to play with weapons in bbr

[hazy nova]

i remember the cope of all the old chatters here that said the game wasnt dying baldurs gate 3 and school was just stealing players and they would return 💀

[vocal plaza]

if only u could accept the success u have with ur current playerbase instead of making changes to core gameplay and alienating them to chase bigger numbers

[hazy nova]

support update been ment to come out for a year now chief

[rustic jackal]

For real and then him not taking any feedback on his maps and then having to make remake after remake

[agile moth]

Make this a skin

[scarlet fiber]

i am just thinking of a new rank system for each gadget and weapon just as a costemtic thing mostly

[opaque ingot]

oooffff, downfall. Guess ima go in hibernation until then.

[slate mango]

Tarkov with 60k players right now:

[sage raft]

Oki needs to focus on getting servers in each region running apart from the most popular ones, as those are more likely to play a low Poly game because their PCs can't run something like BF, or Squad, or anything

[dull elm]

isn't it like just kills?

[jagged chasm]

I hear ya man, statistics dont lie. If Im going to give any input on long term play, prestiging needs to have some sort of meaning besides skins and clout lol. The moment there is a genuine perk to prestiging, I think a lot more players could get hooked

[tired flume]

oki please stop shadownerfing little bird hp thanks

[hazy nova]

extraction shooter more then a mil sim

[opaque ingot]

my reaction to the PKM not being added in next update:

[dull elm]

it was always public, written on #dev-wip

[scarlet fiber]

well you could tie it with challanges like get 3 kills in a row etc to make it unquie from kills

[slate mango]

Still has a lot of milsim elements so it kinda counts

[hazy nova]

chat unturned or battlebit

[agile moth]

Imo milsim doesn’t fit Battlebits art style, people expect realistic(ish) graphics when it comes to milsim

[bronze prism]

dam i already spend 1000 hours and this 3 gigachads still cooking

[opaque ingot]

unturned

[wanton quartz]

unturned

[dusty frigate]

having variety in challenges and such yk

[rustic jackal]

unturned

[hazy nova]

nah not really cause its like the only modern game extraction shooter atm

[agile moth]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-lego-fortnitelego-lego-fortnite-legofortnite-gif-2617538045958418291

[tall spear]

Hello! Why Im getting queue bug in community servers. hello pls fix thanks ok ok ok

[tired flume]

where specifically though

[rocky flower]

squad

[hazy nova]

unturned or battlebit

[thick swallow]

omg is that twitch rivals winner narxa666 | ttv | cateat.net

[lofty trout]

unturned

[agile moth]

When is ur fortnite Lego stream going online bruh

[opaque ingot]

minecraft

[jagged chasm]

battlebits terrain > unturneds terrain

[tall spear]

Yeah everybody knows me, pls fix community servers

[rustic jackal]

this that one desert map

[hazy nova]

oildunes, but its unturned

[scarlet fiber]

omg is that narxa from twitch

[hazy nova]

he just reused assets

[agile moth]

Talk to em!!

[tall spear]

hi, pls fix community server queue bug

[neon oak]

no

[rustic jackal]

NO FUCKLING QWAY

[scarlet fiber]

sorry me no dev

[dull elm]

Vilaskis is coming Unterned, he made maps for Unterned before, that's why you will see similarities 100%.

[opaque ingot]

[slate mango]

Anyways

[fickle steeple]

They are same

[rustic jackal]

I'm do not listen for suggestions. They all being ignored.

I do listen for feedback only to spot problems that I may miss.

[rocky flower]

wot?
i dont even stream

[rustic jackal]

thank god qwe can suggest improvements

[agile moth]

5 dolar per bug u pay me

[opaque ingot]

1 mil for PKM to be added in next update

[tall spear]

Im broke, pls fix for free

[hazy nova]

yeah cause he uses assets from unturned and makes the exact same maps

[dull elm]

They are 100% remade from ground up.

[slate mango]

My kidney for battlebit sex

[hazy nova]

if you take his unturned maps and add like 20 more buildings copy and pasted it would be a battlebit map

[opaque ingot]

Ur Turk 😮

[rustic jackal]

remade from ground up? so same assets?

[agile moth]

Wen is the Lego collab coming

[hazy nova]

literally just copied and pasted

[slate mango]

Im not im balkan lmao

[agile moth]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-man-angry-out-of-car-meme-fast-am-talking-gif-17285849

[opaque ingot]

My man's a sigma

[scarlet fiber]

when is KPAF collab

[fickle steeple]

Never because of guns

[tired flume]

oh yeah also oki if ur still here why does vehicle fov not apply to helicopters

[slate mango]

NAAAAH

[opaque ingot]

What 😄 ?

[slate mango]

That cracked me up ngl

[opaque ingot]

If u kno, u kno 🙂

Actually, I play "tactical shooters" so I kno what I talk about, MF'ers with "Millitary analyst" in their bio be like:

[scarlet fiber]

ox1gen be like

[opaque ingot]

been playing mil sim for 6 years, still don't kno how to clear corners correctly, mf'ers be like

[scarlet fiber]

ayo the cooking clan be working hard today

[opaque ingot]

ox1gen MF'ers be like:

Literally every1 in dis Discord in 2025:

[sand hollow]

real

[hazy nova]

me when oxigen helps to kill the game by suggesting the most stupid balancing changes and claims to be a expert when he has 60 hours actually in game and spends all his time in a shooting range in game

[opaque ingot]

also real 😮

New Battlebit 2 Leaked 😮

[sweet depot]

@dull elm Let's go play battlebit

[scarlet fiber]

he’s just a excel autist

[hazy nova]

he like the kaiser of balancing and his changes are so ass, messed with grips and barrels and effectively made gun choice useless,

[opaque ingot]

only if this gets added tomorrow :I

[dull elm]

Quite tired 😅, let's do that another time.

[slate mango]

All on the day of gta 6 release

[scarlet fiber]

just read hes message logs its quite a journay

[opaque ingot]

Literally

[hazy nova]

he goes on his spreadsheet and literally sees whats good and nerfs it 💀

[sweet depot]

It's a deal.

[sweet depot]

Okey 😘

[opaque ingot]

Only Ukrainian i kno is hohol lol, and it's a swear word lol

[scarlet fiber]

@dull elm wanna join Super Auto Pets?

[dusty frigate]

join us for super auto pets oki ladddd

[opaque ingot]

Hohol

Person of Ukrainian blood.
"Look theres a Ukrainian eating salo."
"Hohol blyat poshol nahui!"

"Oink oink salo zelensky, SLAVA UKRAINI!"

[dull elm]

I don't know what that is, clan?

[dusty frigate]

its a game lad

[scarlet fiber]

Its a free game

[rustic jackal]

no is game

[thick swallow]

it's fun

[agile moth]

Sounds like cookie clicker but pets

[rustic jackal]

nu uh

[dusty frigate]

no its so much more than that

[thorny vortex]

It's like tft

[dull elm]

Let's do that another time, the server crash issue that is happening randomly is bugging me...

[rustic jackal]

alright u free tomorrow night?

[dry bane]

pls fix the server crash issue i haven't been able to play on bbc domination

[dusty frigate]

NOW HES NEVER PLAYING SAP

[scarlet fiber]

i know but i like shenanigans

[dull elm]

it seems to be affecting the community servers most, trying to figure out why with them

[rustic jackal]

Oki it's fine what's one more day of server crashes? Cmon we are hosting a tournament

[plain urchin]

Can you see any sort of logs from the community servers?

[opaque ingot]

Звучит чертовски круто просто пришлите несколько роликов если они у вас есть в личных сообщениях хотелось бы их увидеть ))

[scarlet fiber]

@dull elm i am just kidding, keep up the good work, working on fixing those bugs

[hollow steeple]

might be a problem when a round ends and transitions to a other map

atleast that what i have figured out

we had insanely long queues after a new map started at some point

gotten worse and worse till we were stuck in queues

[agile moth]

It’s caused by the fortnite Lego event(trust me)

[dull elm]

It's exist since 2.2.2, something caused it, but some reason got worse recently

I believed it was a bug I intruduced with the foliage pinging thing which I fixed on new update, apperently it wasn't the case.

[plain urchin]

Do you have any sort of logs before the servers go down?

[oblique granite]

oo, link?

[hollow steeple]

u still have a 2.2.2 build laying around ?

to test it

[agile moth]

I mean there’s prolly crash logs

[agile moth]

Steamdb

[dull elm]

it exist in 2.2.2 and 2.2.3

[plain urchin]

Thats what Im hoping

[dull elm]

so its something I added from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2

tryting to figure out that.

[plain urchin]

live debugging stream?

[hollow steeple]

that would be cool, but can be a problem with showing source code

[plain urchin]

He did it before when fixing an issue with objects being placed

[opaque ingot]

🤙

[dull elm]

it's unity game, source code is open tbh

[hollow steeple]

still, game devs have differend opinion on this topic

genshin is also unity

and they show nothing

[midnight tusk]

Love read decompiled IL2CPP code 😼

Move game to godot, if many of your sdk write in pure .net.
That should be interesing)

[crimson path]

YAWN

[marble sparrow]

i wonder how well godot would run a fps like battlebit

[crimson path]

yes

[long vapor]

sudo apt get

[crimson path]

or maybe no

[midnight tusk]

Managable, if you really want to try.
SDFGI is unoptimised mess, what requires 400mb of vram just to work
3d support is still need to write your SDK to work
No asset management in memory, need to create own to work solution somehow
.net support is strange in many ways, and gdscript if just python, but worse. And limited only to engine use

Anyway, if you really want, you can make it. And possible, it maybe less expenceve on CPU side that unity, because you can just rewrite engine for your own purposes

[crimson path]

nuh uh, true or false buddy

[midnight tusk]

Godot is something like first versions of blender. Give them money and few years, and it will be wild thing

Yeah, 4.2 mono can be build for android yet or still not implemented? Not checked

[marble sparrow]

i know nothing about game dev or programming, i would probably end up having to rewrite it more times than oki

[midnight tusk]

Godot actually better than unity, if you new to gamedev. Using it make more viable in "huge" development habitats, and in box best solution for 2d.

But need more patience to work with.

Have like one small demo with engine, liked it. But many things need to be done to actually enjoy engine

[marble sparrow]

yeah i have read about it, especially with the unity ceo shit

[drifting dove]

Hey oki, in all this feedback. For myself personally this game has been one of the best shooters i've played in a long time. It reminds me of the good times i had playing Bad company 2, And even the older shooters I've played before that.

The game has gotten me by the balls and mostly my free time has gone in to it in between work n shit. I hope you don't let the negative sentiment that seems to hover around here get to you too much, i think in essence folk have this much passion for it because they care for the game

[proud berry]

The current game I'm co-writing is in godot

My friend who does the coding side of things seems to like it for the most part

[bronze prism]

big thanks for C4 its so f fun

[midnight tusk]

GDscript is actually nice instrument to work with, but have one flaw - it limited only for godot. No other way to switch, still using it... if i want to say that, but gdscript just python fork

But it have few nicer things, that not yet implemented in mono c# version like async asset preload in memory.

[tired flume]

no it isnt

[midnight tusk]

Wow, that happens in my birthday. Thanks, that you do it for me

[proud berry]

Ok redname

[proud berry]

Cope

[wild quarry]

Welp

[opaque ingot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/sMrXOR-d7VQ?feature=shared

[odd oasis]

finally, now just 7500 more XD

[pastel cliff]

Is there any game engine made with code that is perfectly transferable? Like even if you were using Python it would be some library with its own idiosyncracies about how to do things

[errant nova]

if only the mastery camos worked the same way as the regular skins where you can choose primary and secondary

[proud berry]

you can?

[errant nova]

i wish

current mastery is ugly when the whole gun is just dipped into a bucket

[proud berry]

I run l86 silver pattern 1 with my secondary as gradient white

I think it looks pretty nice

[turbid forum]

please try to take criticism without lashing out at your community. i mean this with genuine honest care about the game and a desire to help you: get a pr rep, or someone that is mature enough to actually address the community, for the love of god.

[icy mountain]

should have added /s to the message

[turbid forum]

and this is exactly what i mean. this is never going to help you.

[proud berry]

Silver skin looks very pretty

[turbid forum]

i really hope you the best man

it's a shame that this game will inevitably fail from you three.

responding to people like me that intentionally try to get on your nerves will never help🤷‍♀️

[proud berry]

Most constructive #off-topic conversation:

[soft gust]

Pretty funny that Oki ignored everything I said about them being too focused on sniping yesterday and just lumped it up to "Oh you should be able to know where you're getting shot from" to then release a patch that is smoke spam and marking spam so everyone has ESP. Where's that ideology there? Loved this game, still do. But I think it's time to play something else while the dev team learns why they have a game in the first place. Between the way they're taking criticism and the blatant ignoring of feedback, hopefully one day they'll remember you need a community to have a game.

[flat gorge]

almost like these 3 young twenty somethings made a bunch of fuggin money off this game and dint think theyd make it this far

[wild pelican]

Man who gives af if I was them id take the money and run away fuck these idiots lmao

[icy mountain]

but on a serious note:
I am well aware of what happend and how everything appeared, its just a shame that it did had to be publicly discussed in the way it did.
Robo was not the only creator i approached with the initial question, there were a few and we have been able to refine the bonds between several creators in this community. Helping everyone to grow through out this past week.

I would have fully ignored it but the amount of reports we have received because of onstream behaviour was something we didnt want to affiliate us with. Terminal, as our upcoming community manager was purposely kept out of this as this would have harmed his reputation to much.

We will continue to strive to build an inclusive and supportive community. Going through our Feedback and building the game with our community alongside our Vision of Shooter we want to play.

Im also fully aware that a bunch of people purposely try to get on my nerves, i just reply to see what next wild thing they can come up with to build case studies for future moderator applicants.

damn, long text

[wild pelican]

Whats the pay rate for a virtual janitor these days

[icy mountain]

tldr; i didnt really care what people wrote about me and still belive in bilding a supportive community

[wild pelican]

0 sheckles and pat on the back saj

[turbid forum]

i mean, this is at least a decent response bar the last paragraph.

[proud berry]

It matches your last message so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wild pelican]

We shall have the most amount of shitters possible giving feedback

Inshallah

You get paid via skins so worth to spend hours on discord jerkin it

I dont blame them if you can get idiots to do it for free why pay em

Theres prolly a blacklog of hundreds willing

This goes for everything def not unique to em

[ashen jasper]

You guys are making funny assumptions lol

[lusty hemlock]

Does anyone know how do you get the Christmas skins

[rose forge]

Please go outside at some point in the next 5 to 7 business days

[turbid forum]

come up with an original one

[rose forge]

Bro clutching his phone till the screen cracks cause he doesn't like a dev's conduct lmao

[proud berry]

@vast berry starts right under here

[vast berry]

hm

[wild pelican]

Nothing I said was false

[vale wyvern]

it actually started in the inertia thread, not here

[soft gust]

Why was this patch not play tested with the role you created for this exact reason? Would have taken at most two games for people to realize why it is so broken.

[wild pelican]

Fukin europoors man

[vast berry]

there are multiple different issues with different arguments

[tired flume]

looks like we found our way to dev rant land

[vast berry]

i had to stop reading from that point, i have no idea how far i got, but any time the blues and purples start defending themselves personally it's just detrimental to their side/stance

[ashen jasper]

It is.

How do you know my payment status better than I do? I'm very curious.

[vast berry]

^ case in point

[wild pelican]

Did I say you were not payed? Other guy did

[vast berry]

why the fuck are you arguing with people about that

[vast berry]

zero professionalism

[tired flume]

from an outsider with zero knowledge in business, logistics, moderation and the works it seems like a disaster on mod and dev team

[wild pelican]

yea I said you were paid its in the message?

[vast berry]

it's fuckin embarrassing

[slow wagon]

[vast berry]

the fact that both lead devs participate is laughable

fuckin great example to set for your community managers guys

[wild pelican]

Cant resist the chance to swing the moderator dick, 2incher does damage brother

[vast berry]

no reason to keep insulting them either, you're just being a cunt.

[wild pelican]

nah

[vast berry]

fuckin bunch of children

[ashen jasper]

Getting skins in-game is not payment. Nevermind, I won't even argue.

[vast berry]

you won't argue, after that last jab

[soft gust]

I feel like I’m in some strange fucking alternative universe, why is everyone bitching about that the devs are doing outside of the game when the game itself is fucked right now

[vast berry]

gotta get the last word in eh

[wild pelican]

I'd beg to differ people pay big bucks for the virtual skins man

[copper shore]

because they aren't fixing the game either. smoke spam + perma esp from drones kekw

inertia will fix it i'm sure

[vast berry]

i feel dumber after attempting to catch up with what happened today lol

keep up the good work everyone, starting from the blues down to us normies

[tired flume]

ive learned to stop focusing on what happens in here other than conversing with fellow battlebitians and just play the game

[wild pelican]

This has always happened ive left for 5 months and the same idiots are still arguing in here its like clockwork

[copper shore]

god i'd love to play the game but servers keep crashing/losing half the players between games and then never get refilled

[soft gust]

Don’t forget perma invasion that’s still unbalanced just for attackers now instead. Oh and the DMRs that are meant to be used at range? Yeah just use them for every situation from 0m to 800m. But yeah those don’t need to be addressed at all.

[copper shore]

or supports with fal just going prone and being unbeatable?

[soft gust]

Oh yeah also the already dying server pops are also just mostly dead servers now (because no one can fucking play on the broken servers)

[copper shore]

cant do enough damage to get through exo head just lose by the incredibly skilled support player ^.^

[wild pelican]

I'm glad you've come in here to defend your honor, its pretty late in black-face land its time for bed

[soft gust]

Want to not play invasion 24/7? Go play community servers…. oh wait

[copper shore]

i'd love to play some frugis dom but...

[soft gust]

Do want to play invasion? Well I hope you’re better at shooting through smokes at red spots than the enemies are

[copper shore]

played a 127 dom server earlier and yea... racking up 180 kills shooting through smokes the whole game feels disgusting

[soft gust]

Was on isle earlier. Just literally shot through at red dots. Getting kill feeds. Never saw them. Never even knew what was on the other side. Just shoot at the spots and you’ll probably get someone.

Joked about it earlier but fuck it everyone might as well get ESP hacks, how the fuck are mods going to know? Oki just gave everyone ESP anyways with the new spotting system and the new smokes.

[wanton quartz]

Why not recognize Robo for the asset that he is? The man has streamed the game for thousands of hours, and consistently streamed the game when there was nobody else doing so, why not recognize that. I cant blame him for feeling excluded when random streamers that played the game once are getting skins left and right but actually dedicated BBR streamers havent gotten any. I honestly cant think of a single streamer that played this game after release who got a creator skin. Maybe Surefour kinda counts? He played the game for a while I guess.

The negative sentiment towards you guys in his stream doesnt come from nowhere. I can 100% assure you that if you even attempted to build some sort of a mutually beneficial relationship between him and you, he would be much less angry at you, and by extension so would his audience. At least then they might disagree with your decisions but be able to think "well at least theyre trying, at least theyre considering our feedback". Right now I genuinely do not know if you are intentionally looking for excuses to drive away this side of the community because you think they are too toxic or not.

[copper shore]

yeah i literally went prone in a corner at one point cause my hands were hurting and just started taking pot shots at red dots and got like 5 or 6 kills while doing hand stretches... it's so fucked, how did this make it into the game untested?

[soft gust]

Remember, Oki said they’re all tested. With him and a friends on private servers. Played Tensa earlier. Found a bush facing the school. Sit against it with a bolt and just shot at red dots on the roof. Got like 10 kills staring at a bush. Only died because I got marked by their drone instead and then I was shot through the bush

[copper shore]

amazing. i can't wait for more changes in this vein. surely this won't ruin the game.

[wanton quartz]

Honestly? I'm actually SO HYPED for 8v8!!

[soft gust]

I love this game. The first FPS game to really scratch that itch since fucking BF3. But I can not and probably won’t play this patch. The game is not playable right now.

[soft gust]

Oh you mean 2v2 with each team having two recon afk on drones and the rest just sitting mostly afk on DMRs?

[copper shore]

i got back into fps games playing og mw3 when mw2019 was at it's peak. this was the first game to scratch the itch of an fps where the only limit was my own skill (since titanfall 2 is abandonware).

[soft gust]

Oh don’t forget as of right now you can’t prestige ever again if you want to play it, because you’ll lose access to weapons and gadgets in a competitive mode

[copper shore]

nah it's fine. you get ump at level 0 and c4 at level 5

[soft gust]

Inb4 they make M110 level 0 and finally admit they have an issue but instead of fixing it they just say “everyone has it, it’s balanced”

[copper shore]

nah dmrs aren't overtuned, neither are supports with fal. the real problem is movement

[soft gust]

No remember it’s the last few remaining bolt sniper rifles! That’s why we must keep changing them instead of looking at balancing anything else!

[tired flume]

buff little bird
i have spoken

[copper shore]

tru, fuck snipers (m200 is balanced though obviously)

[soft gust]

I’m not even a recon main and even I think it’s ridiculous how much of a hard on Oki has for changing sniping mechanics every patch instead of actually balancing and fixing what is already in the game

[slow wagon]

#1183210810760249425 message

kek.

[tired flume]

snipers have never been the largest glaring issue in the game idk why oki is cracking down so fucking hard on them

[copper shore]

map design is what causes them to be oppressive usually. but we can't fix the maps either.

[opaque ingot]

They're big meanies who smell. >:(

[soft gust]

They literally require the person to land a head shot (or multiple, #supportisking) or for the person to get body shot, and be enough of an NPC to not move or heal

[tired flume]

exactly
basra rework doesnt even look better than old basra

[copper shore]

idk why basra got a rework. basra is solid. and the new map doesn't even look like basra... just call it something else and send it

[tired flume]

snipers are already at a huge disadvantage because they lack spacial awareness

[soft gust]

Is no one going to address the sniper haven that is Isle and this games invasion 24/7 status

[tired flume]

basra badbasra badbasra badbasra badbasra bad

[copper shore]

shhhhhh. play more invasion

[tired flume]

dude i swear to god they NEED to hotfix the no-2-same-gamemodes-in-a-row thing back into the game

game is fucking stale as shit without it i cannot stand infinite meatgrinder known as invasion

[soft gust]

Let’s rework Basra that is honestly fine if you play anything but the mountains, leave the snipers to the mountains, cool we have the motel, the ship, the bunker. But Isle? Oh no that’s not completely a wide open map with little to no coverage and complete fine

[tired flume]

isle has fog and little verticality doesnt that make snipers hard to come across or is there something im missing

[soft gust]

(Oh btw the pinging through foliage is still 100% a thing and abused nonstop on isle as all infantry can see is fucking trees)

[soft gust]

Defense snipers have access to the first tall building and the island from the start and after the first points they have the tower in the middle. Snipers can fight each other, but everyone else is just fish in a barrel to snipers and DMRs

[tired flume]

oh invasion

im too busy in my helicopter to notice snipers

[soft gust]

Which normally isn’t an issue, but when everyone is a sniper or DMR, you’re fucked because again little to no coverage

[tired flume]

gonna be completely real

[copper shore]

it's wild that i wasn't playing the game hardly because the community servers never fill anymore. and now i don't play because in one patch the game is just totally fucked

[soft gust]

Oh the only game mode right now especially with community servers all being killed by the patch

[soft gust]

Even before this patch you have to check daily which servers are actually even stable. Every day you have to find out if the community servers are dying or the official ones. Appears this whole patch will be community servers, so extra fucked if official starts struggling. Actually will have no servers to play then

The last patch had its issues but fuck at this point just pull the rip cord and go back to a playable version of it

[tiny briar]

. I mean, I'm all for open - but if you are this passionate about disagreeing with the dev's , why not just create your own ?

[proud berry]

@mint imp start at the message I pinged here

[lofty trout]

all servers just died
lmao

[woven flicker]

[woven flicker]

I'm dying brah 💀😭

[wanton quartz]

It actually started here #1170730270492721253 message then moved to off topic

[proud berry]

Ah, thanks for clarification

[opaque ingot]

[formal seal]

<t:2102181808:R>

[opaque ingot]

Whats going to happen in 13 years!?!?!

[wanton quartz]

You'll find out in 13 years probably

[turbid forum]

the dude has the most hours in the game and has a consistently large fan base, and you are not taking any of the criticism being given to you by him or the community. instead, you've intentionally poisoned a relationship with one of your largest content creators and left a permanent stain on how you handle disagreements in your community.

him calling you idiots does not come from nowhere. evaluate why, other than just "oh well he must be immature." it genuinely appears as if the three devs do not communicate with each other as well as they should, do not have a clear vision for the game, have a problem with souring portions of their community (which will inevitably lead to people leaving), and not doing enough to actually expand your dev team.

[wanton quartz]

This is 100% true. Whether or not the criticism is valid, its extremely important to understand where it comes from.

[turbid forum]

the game has the potential to be good. you've developed good bones, and everyone applauded this team for their ability to put a serious challenge towards AAA games, despite being miniscule in size. few called you idiots then, but people do now. there are reasons, and i highly, highly doubt it's because they just disagree with you on changes to the game.

this team legitimately does not handle criticism, whether it is constructive or not. be the better people (if that's how you want to look at it), and cut the shit with the snarky responses and poor communication.

also, it ALWAYS looks bad when your devs (hint, @icy mountain ) decides to completely delete all of the messages regarding RoboCat the first day that he was cut from the content creation team. i don't care what your motivation is for doing it, but deleting your messages and the twitch vods is not a good look.

[wanton quartz]

@quick locust I think this feedback is probably relevant to you now

[dry bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/582031909673238528/1049424577501073508/sillycat.gif

[last tendon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/582031909673238528/1049424577501073508/sillycat.gif

[last tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-game-honkai-star-rail-skill-issue-silver-wolf-gif-9127987934264699835

[copper shore]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-19411985

[bleak fulcrum]

Robocat taking the L fr

[copper shore]

idk if the games largest streamer leaving the game to do other shit is him taking the L but who knows

[wanton quartz]

its an L for both parties

[copper shore]

he typin an essay frfr

[dry bane]

https://tenor.com/view/type-emoji-meme-pc-computer-gif-22586965

[wanton quartz]

Where does the yellow man come from

[bleak fulcrum]

DMs were leaked by larry and it seemed that Larry did handle it pretty well compared to what Robo might be saying on stream.

Facts are that larry helped him with his false ban, Larry asked him not to AFK stream for drops (thats against twitch TOS), which robo ignored (or just didnt reply to DM) and then on top of whatever shit talking and potentially even slurs as oki mentioned in one of okis messages regarding the matter.

[quiet harness]

[wanton quartz]

what Robo might be saying on stream.
🤔

[copper shore]

i don't think it's against tos, i believe hosting reruns of previous streams during drop campaigns is against tos however (which robo didn't do), but wasn't a problem when other creators did it. larry didn't actually help him with the ban.

w/e man, leaking dm's is also a massive L move

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-breathe-frustrated-focus-kevin-hart-gif-16706033

[bleak fulcrum]

Posting receipts is an L?

[dry bane]

the depths of the internet

[copper shore]

well his receipts were wrong... they weren't in his favor at all lol. it's amazing the truth was right in front of you and you ignored all the signs

[dry bane]

ox1gen finally has no more competition for getting rank 1 on the leaderboards

[wanton quartz]

Looky here bucko. Everything you support is a veritable L, everything I support is a gargantuan W

[bleak fulcrum]

I have seen clips of Robo talking about the whole interaction (DMs) and Robo def painting it worse than it was

[copper shore]

dude personally slighted by devs behavior is rightfully upset about it... crazy

[wanton quartz]

Lets say I agree. Do you think that justifies removing him from the CC program?

[bleak fulcrum]

I dont know exactly Robo has said about the dev team, but i know for a fact that CCs have shit talked them before and nothing happened to these CCs

But overall Robo fucked around and found out

[quiet harness]

[bleak fulcrum]

Drop farming is against twitch TOS

[copper shore]

i mean i guess it would be easy to find clips of robo criticizing the game and hard to find clips of other cc's criticizing the game when the other cc's don't stream the game

[lapis cosmos]

Who here misses TimmyP

[wanton quartz]

I think I was watching the stream most of the times that he was talking about this. I would say I do agree that he did not characterize the situation perfectly, but I dont think this was out of malice. I think he genuinely saw the situation that way because of a miscommunication. A miscommunication that Larry didn't attempt to work out before deciding to remove him as a CC.

[cyan wedge]

😭

Man.

[lapis cosmos]

I'm glad we're on topic talking about BBR

[copper shore]

do you have a link to this cause i can't find anything in their tos regarding drops

[bleak fulcrum]

Does robo save vods?

[viral sparrow]

yes

[viral sparrow]

While Twitch does not explicitly ban sleeping streams, to be safe, streamers should be sleeping without being in a certain category. In the past, moderators have ended streams for misrepresenting their category, such as someone sleeping in a gaming category like Hearthstone.

In order to avoid this, if you are planning a sleeping stream, make sure you use the “I’m Only Sleeping” category for your stream.

You used not to be able to use a category, which presented an issue with discoverability, as the only people who will be able to see you are those who already follow your channel or are linked to your channel directly.

Sleeping in a category like Just Chatting, while not explicitly banned, is slightly riskier, and while some streamers have gotten away with it in the past, the only option that is 100% safe is to sleep without choosing a section.

what ive found on it

[wanton quartz]

I dont think that any evidence that you can find after the fact is relevant. I think that to handle the situation adequately they should have had specific clips ready to go to post as evidence of misbehavior. They shouldnt ban him first then look for evidence later. The clips that Larry posted are what I'm going by to judge the descision.

[cyan wedge]

Nah it's just a 48 hour clip

[viral sparrow]

Twitch did not allow sleep streams until February 2021.
but the rule was changed to this

[edgy lotus]

Very none committal lol

[viral sparrow]

i mean were talking about twitch here lol

[edgy lotus]

I have a feeling they made it so none committal to cover their own asses if they decided to pick favorites lol

[devout atlas]

Me

[bleak fulcrum]

Im sure they have their clips and screenshots, question is will they gather them into a neat package first.

[agile moth]

Go to sleep oxi

[solemn steppe]

hi guys, what's going on with the servers right now, I'm not syncing and it throws me into the main menu

[dry bane]

are you trying to join community servers?

[turbid forum]

we down to 159 twitch viewers

gah damn

[runic grove]

How was Larry supposed to help him? The ban was for something they did, and nothing to do with BBR

Twitch banned him, not us

[tawdry folio]

Guys I can’t fall asleep to save my life do I just fuck it and pull a all nighter

[solemn steppe]

no, I connected to the official servers of the game 127 by 127 and was sent to the game menu with the reason I could not connect(((

[rose forge]

I'm v glad the cope back seat pr-ing has stopped now 😌

[brazen lion]

ive seen minecraft servers with better pr then this team 😭

would genuinely revisit how you guys approach releasing information on punishments issued on content creators, even if its warranted you are doing a great job as painting yourselves as the petty ones. This would work for a small indie game, not a game at this scale.

[rose forge]

Can't be that bad if the only place I've heard of this drama is from terminally online discord users lmao

It seems to me they've annoyed a demographic that 99% of developers would not even bother engaging with, let alone as candidly as they seem to in this channel and others

[brazen lion]

Removing their biggest content creator from their cc program will serve backlash like this if they didn't properly present the facts of the matter, which they did in an inappropriate and unprofessional manner.

[rose forge]

Who is their biggest content creator?

[brazen lion]

Robocat

the #1 kills guy, he got over 300k when 2nd place has around 170k+

[rose forge]

And this is a tragedy because?

[brazen lion]

lots of debate as to why the ban is warranted, as a decent portion of the community members invested believe the staff and devs have a personal dilemma with robocat, and he is effecitvely quitting the game i believe today

[rose forge]

Forgive my ignorance; he's been banned from the game?

[brazen lion]

no, he was removed from the content creator program battlebit provides

its significant since the devs partner with ceartin streamers to host drop events for unique skins that won't be dropped by other streamers, plus doing other things to represent BBR

for example the dreamhack event where the honeybadger skin will be dropped by only those 3 streamers

which will effectively grant them a large amount of traffic leading to revenue

[rose forge]

Ah, so by terminating their CC agreement with Robocat, they've damaged him financially after they committed time to promoting Battlebit through their twitch?

[brazen lion]

In an indirect way yes, though even then he still held the largest stream at any given moment when he was live

he would average anywhere from 700-2000 viewers while the 2nd largest snoozin i believe would garner around ~300

[rose forge]

Yeah just glanced at Battlebit twitch, it's a bit desolate lmao

[brazen lion]

yea, but its not peak european hours yet so it makes sense

[rose forge]

My final question, is there any indication that this chain of events was conducted in malice against Robocat? That you know of

Apologies for the questions but I figure I may as well ask someone informed so any other people who stumble onto this chat have a less inflammatory point of reference

[brazen lion]

There is a possibility of the punishments being enforced in an immoral manner, especially since there seems to be some tension between robocat and the BBR team, but from what I have seen there is no significant evidence that would point to it being done through bad intentions. Simply it reached to this point due to the issue not being contained in an appropriate manner, leading to community backlash and members of the community villainizing the BBR team. So in essence I believe they didn't punish him through bad intentions, but handled the situation poorly. Events could have transpired in a much smoother fashion

[undone hemlock]

I watched his stream for a few mins and he seemed to be blaming the events on homophobia which I thought seemed a bit silly

[rose forge]

I appreciate your attempts to clarify the situation for an impartial observer ❤️

[brazen lion]

I was there and I also felt that was a tad bit of a stretch

[brazen lion]

don't mention it

[rose forge]

I give this situation 3 screaming babies out of 5

[brazen lion]

3? specific number 😭

especially since there are 3 dev team members

[rose forge]

Just as a drama rating, it's definitely heated but not nuclear, so 3 / 5 lmao

[brazen lion]

i throughouly enjoyed it ngl, nice to see the more human side of both parties

[rose forge]

I personally appreciate the developers for going in the trenches and having a full on flame war with anime profile pic discord users, it's a fundamentally bad idea but it's kind of hilarious because you know other developers wish they could

[wanton quartz]

To add to this, I dont think that the punishment was done out of malice. I think it was probably stemming from a miscommunication. Overall I dont think that what Robo did was deserving of removing him from the CC team. I think punishing someone for what they say should only extend to harrassment and things like it, not calling devs mean names.

[brazen lion]

I do agree

[rose forge]

Lego Fortnite

[agile moth]

it had a minecraft server but it got shut down 😭

[covert wind]

Stupid sexy female support, why do you look so cute

[ashen jasper]

As a bit of feedback, could you elaborate on how you think the events could have transpired in a smoother fashion?

[lime ember]

Reminds me of that “How to Lose Friends and Alienate People” movie

[brazen lion]

Seeing as the community is heavily invested in robocat, I would create a small community announcement pertaining as to the status of his affiliation to the CC program. If questions were to arise, posting evidence of his misbehavior and avoiding any debates would of been the most appropriate set of actions to take. This could be done either on discord or over on X. This is to adress the publics concerns and give the community the appropriate amount of information for them to realize the punishment is justified, even though creating a matter like this to be a public one is a bad move, its necessary since the other affiliated party is making this issue very public. Thats how I would of tried to deal with it but this is all in retrospect.

[tiny briar]

44 viewers on twitch maybe banning your biggest streamer wasnt the smartest move

[lime ember]

It’s the timing that seems most painful. Robocat must feel pretty used and abused right now. On board for the entire time the twitch drops are active and then thrown overboard when not. It’s painful timing at best.

PR has never been one of battlebits strong points.

Hopefully they’ve not wiped out another big clan. Cos if so, that’d be the top 3 ranked clans all equally upset with BBR.

Im surprised 3iq are still going given how they get no recognition and still don’t appear on the broken leaderboards

[modern bone]

Why did they throw him overboard though

[neon oak]

Pog

[dense marten]

and it disconnected

[serene chasm]

fkn 150 kills above 200m again. Hello camping my old friend

[lime ember]

From what I’ve gathered (and my knowledge of context is super limited) apparently Robocat was banned by twitch (according to BBR staff) but, the community seems to think he was banned and or removed from the battlebit content creation team inappropriately by BBR devs… other sources are saying he said some unacceptable things or called the devs names on stream, and this is the way the devs handled it.

I truly don’t know all the fine details so can’t really give the full story, but from what I gather Robocat said things, people didn’t like that, people banished Robocat

[dense marten]

Fuck this

[modern bone]

Why are you commenting on it so much then, if you don't know what you're talking about

[dense marten]

Im playing BG

[lime ember]

Cos I know enough

But like I say im not a journalist and I’m not here to do your research for you

Nor am I here to help you make your mind up

[dense marten]

This is just some random drama

Dont pay too much attention about it lmao

[lime ember]

It’s never random drama when it involves another top 3 clan maybe quitting the game and their leader also quitting

It’s just another blow to clans/communities

[neon oak]

catEat is leaving? Robo is leaving?

[lime ember]

I don’t know but someone earlier typed that robo is quitting

[copper shore]

Robo uninstalled live on stream lol

[dense marten]

Meh, things happen. Not the first time a large clan quit the game

[neon oak]

fr?

[modern bone]

SUPER limited

[neon oak]

damn

[modern bone]

christ

[dense marten]

That Gromp clan or sth, Avalon, HONK

[copper shore]

Frfr

[dense marten]

Idk if ARA still plays

[lime ember]

You should go gift some more BBR copies instead of trying to defend this and getting upset me for having an opinion on the matter hahaha

[neon oak]

damn

[modern bone]

I'm not defending anything or anyone, just questioning why you're talking about something you know nothing about

[lime ember]

Cucklord

[neon oak]

well, there goes its entire presence on twitch

[copper shore]

Yep

[turbid forum]

this happens to be the largest consistent streamer of the game

[copper shore]

Wasn’t he the only consistent streamer?

[lime ember]

The top 3 clans all upset with BBR. Doesn’t look good.

[neon oak]

what are the other two groups?

[turbid forum]

no, it doesn't, and larry has acted like a child in response to pushback.

[neon oak]

and what happened to flyace?

[lime ember]

3iq and it was PVPER until we stopped playing a month ago and moved down a rank

[neon oak]

damn, this game has all of its big clans leaving

[lime ember]

3iq are somehow still committed to this game tho - despite the broken leaderboards not even showing them or giving them credit

If BBR devs had brains they’d look after 3iq now

[neon oak]

heh. they're really persistant then

[turbid forum]

or ask why people are upset

[neon oak]

3iq that is

[lime ember]

They announced over a month and half ago they were introducing a new community manager (PR guy) then less than a month later Larry backtracks on dev stream saying he likes the attention so wants to keep the role himself

You cant make it up

[turbid forum]

oki will just say "oh it's the fucking tryhards man they're ruining it"

[turbid forum]

larry playing as the PR rep lolmao

[copper shore]

All the tryhards were already self quarantining to frontline community servers, now they just don’t play

[lime ember]

If they fixed the leaderboards and looked after communities better from day one they’d be in a different position now. Communities are your backbone in a game like this

[neon oak]

The reason you get a pr guy bc they know how to handle this shit we are in.

[modern bone]

no shit

[dense marten]

Bring back Perseus as head mod

[grim oasis]

childish, toxic, desperate and trolling communitys are no loss at all

[turbid forum]

yeah, because that's definitely all it is and there is no more to the situation.

[lime ember]

But when that’s basically 100% of your top end of players and communities - it kinda does matter

They didn’t do a free to play event because the game is thriving, put it that way

[vale wyvern]

man bbr on twitch is POPPING OFF

[lime ember]

Imma go watch and boost it to 33 viewers

[vale wyvern]

the only reason the community around robo turned toxic is cuz of the actions and behaviour of the bbr devs
the people i met there are actually very nice but spit into someones face or food and you get the consequences tbh

[turbid forum]

yes they're going nuts rn

[lime ember]

The ironic thing for me is a lot of my clan left and joined catEat cos I was talking negative of the game, and now, the ship they find themselves on, is also sinking

[tired flume]

Join Ooga clan

[restive prawn]

man they still haven't fixed the lost progress when you alt f4 or get disconnected when there's a ton of player joining wtffffffffffff

[river belfry]

hm, i really like the game, just playing it as its a good game without following all the community-drama. Just wanted to say that as this chat is full of negativity. Its a child dream come true.

[turbid forum]

we all enjoy the game in some way, it's why we are here. some of us care about the longevity of the game.

[rose forge]

But bro, a streamer you've never heard of is upset! This is BattleBit's January 6th!

[river belfry]

who cares how many viewers there are. I recommend the game to every friend in personal and play with them. Thats way better than some random streamer playing the game for some ppl on the Internet