#I'm the only person with this problem in our server thus far... Could use some help plsss.

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steel willow
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I've been getting two errors in game that are rather rough to work around. They're inconsistent and just annoying at this point.

I'm highly doubtful that what is happening is something system-side, and I feel like it has to be client side.

One of my friends recently bought a server, and I thought I'd bring this up to Bisect and the community so I can figure out what's happening.

The error in the image is most common. The other one is just NBT Data overload, which can be easily fixed with a pair of mods that exist to overwrite the overload. (I made sure to look into which ones would be needed.)

I do also have a theory. It's entirely possible that since my friends are using Windows, and not Linux, some files downloaded wrong. Now to put this into perspective, I'm on SteamOS which is built off of Linux, and only available for Steam Deck at the moment, which is the system I'm running this on. I get the feeling that there's a translation issue between some mods that get downloaded, so, since I'm on Linux some of the mods download weirdly, and my deck doesn't really like some of the mods so when something kicks in the logs, it just disconnects me from the server.

That's just a theory though.

This is a modded server too, should clarify that before continuing.

I'd have to double check with people on that side of things to see about the modpack, and whether or not I can send it other people's way, but logs from the game should hopefully be enough to give, so if you want to look at logs just ask me to send the latest ones. If I can't I'll get the crash to happen again, and then send the logs.

I'm mostly unsure of whether or not it's a client side mod, or a mod that has to be used, and I'm not about to sit down and look through 192 mods to pinpoint exactly which one(s) are causing this disconnection error.

I'd appreciate any help or ideas on/about how to fix this problem.

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If there are any questions that I can answer, then I will answer them.

whole nexus
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try prism launcher to launch the mod pack

steel willow
whole nexus
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bro you didn't say

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ok

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what cf app and modrinth app?

steel willow
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Didn't really have room in the message, mb

whole nexus
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i'm on linux mint 22.3

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you can post across as many messages as you desire

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what i need most from you is your latest.log when you get that message

steel willow
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I started trying ATLauncher. It's surprisingly been better.

whole nexus
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you know how to get it?

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based on your description tho, sounds like the mod pack in question is huge and not sure why the windows users aren't suffering. makes me think that one of the packet fixing mods would be most beneficial to the pack, the kind that make the packets maximal in size.

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how to get the latest log

1. right click the pack icon in the launcher app
2. open folder
3. go to logs folder
4. find the file that says "latest.log"
5. drag it here
steel willow
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Oh that's

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Huh

whole nexus
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you dragged the path

steel willow
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That's weird?

whole nexus
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very

steel willow
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Discord said it's empty?

whole nexus
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assuming you have one monitor, make discord take half the monitor, put your file manager that opened up on the other half, drag the latest.log over.

steel willow
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I have two

whole nexus
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latest.log will always have filesize except on brand new pack that has not run

steel willow
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Bruh, 39741 lines of logs.

whole nexus
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alterntively since you know the path, hit the plus <---- and upload it

steel willow
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DIdn't even pick up on it.

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you right

whole nexus
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excellent 39k lines, there's an anser in there somewhere

steel willow
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FINALLY

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Wait

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Uhhh

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Nvm, that is the whole file lol

whole nexus
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it feels like you are timing out, based on how the log is not showing any real issues

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have the server owner change kicktime from 300 to 900 or -1

steel willow
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Oh wow, really?

whole nexus
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what's your ping time like to the server?

steel willow
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Idk

whole nexus
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do a tracert against, you're a linux person

steel willow
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I have surprisingly good ping

whole nexus
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you're leet now. like me. 🙂

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hmm

steel willow
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lol

whole nexus
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do a trace anyway

steel willow
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I'm the floor above the router in the house quite literally.

whole nexus
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holy smokes

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then why are you having issues

steel willow
whole nexus
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is the machine that is the server, only housing the server?

whole nexus
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also I thought you said your firends bought a server with bh

steel willow
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Yeah

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I might see if they'll get a PC meant for running a server.

whole nexus
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but you're 1 floor above the server

steel willow
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At least one of them

steel willow
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Wifi

whole nexus
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yeah, words matter. thanks for the clarification

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that shouldn't be an issue, do a traceroute against the minecraft server ip

steel willow
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Konsole?

whole nexus
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actually BH like's mtr reports, linux has mtr btw

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yes in konsole

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nice kde, i like kde

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but tracepath <gameip> works too

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areyou adding an extra mod or two your copy of the pack?

steel willow
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Not just yet.

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We're updating it tomorrow.

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Maybe

whole nexus
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I recommend not adding mods to your copy of the pack that are not in the official mod pack being run by the server. you could be causing your own connection issues by doing that.

steel willow
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Yeah, I'm waiting until mods are added on server side

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Nothing else has been added outside of what's in the pack

whole nexus
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doyou have the trace done yet?

steel willow
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Well frick

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Idk what the game IP I'm grabbing is

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Is it from the logs?>

whole nexus
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it's in the multiplayer screen of the mod pack, where you click on the server, click the server once, no double, then choose edit, it will be revealed

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don't use the port number fore teh trace

steel willow
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The server ip, I see

whole nexus
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use that

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tracepath serverip for example tracepath 128.8.93.5

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or if a name was used, tracepath ourawesome.minecraft.server

steel willow
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Oh I see

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Got it

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What do you need from it?

whole nexus
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once it is done paste the result here wrap it in trip backticks

for example
steel willow
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SteamOS is weird with it

whole nexus
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are you ona steamdeck or just thought it would be fun to use steamos as your desktop linux driver?

steel willow
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Now before I send thiss.

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I should be secure, nothing is going to come for my ankles?

whole nexus
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there is not cthulu here

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we ask for thigns like this all the time

steel willow
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Cause this includes locational stuff

whole nexus
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the only thing we don't like is cracked clients

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the community here can only go so far

steel willow
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That's true

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But then again I'm just looking to stay safe more than anything else and not get my system hacked in to

whole nexus
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that's on you, check all the threads, we get logs and traces all the time. we don't engage in hacking and cracking, if we discover someone here doing that, they are booted from the community.

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and they might even lose their service

steel willow
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Oh wow

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OK

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I trust thee with such vision

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 1:  _gateway                                              6.814ms 
 1:  _gateway                                              3.507ms 
 2:  10.112.140.67                                        16.726ms 
 3:  po-321-363-rur401.cosprings.co.denver.comcast.net    18.941ms 
 4:  po-2-rur401.cosprings.co.denver.comcast.net           9.718ms asymm  3 
 5:  be-324-arsc1.denver.co.denver.comcast.net            18.405ms 
 6:  be-324-arsc1.denver.co.denver.comcast.net            13.961ms asymm  5 
 7:  be-3211-pe11.910fifteenth.co.ibone.comcast.net       19.337ms 
 8:  be-3311-pe11.910fifteenth.co.ibone.comcast.net       15.378ms asymm  7 
 9:  den-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net                         15.908ms (This broken router returned corrupted payload) asymm 10 
10:  den-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net                         18.165ms (This broken router returned corrupted payload) 
11:  62.115.139.189                                       31.269ms asymm  8 
12:  62.115.139.189                                       38.343ms asymm  8 
13:  hostpapa-ic-317202.ip.twelve99-cust.net              36.008ms asymm 10 
14:  hostpapa-ic-316183.ip.twelve99-cust.net              32.437ms asymm 10 
15:  162.33.23.117                                        31.738ms reached
     Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 15 back 12```
whole nexus
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that looks good actually

steel willow
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Yeah

whole nexus
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which mod pack is it you guys are running, i can see if I have any issues getting into it

steel willow
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It's just a custom made one

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Nothing official

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If it's just internet being funky it happens all the time, so if anything I have a way to get around that, maybe...

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I might have to rearrange my room again lol.

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I just did it so it'd be cooler in my room since it's getting hot out.

whole nexus
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try being in Bowie, Texas.

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total swamp butt

steel willow
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Lol

whole nexus
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the main ac plus the 3 window acs were all turned on at 11am

steel willow
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I've been to Texas, I can see how bad it is

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LOL

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It's just dry up here so it sucks lol

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Also, should Prism Launcher be fine?

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ATLauncher's flatpak is kinda funky

whole nexus
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so there's mod pack out called "homestead - a cozy little adventure" the guy was having issues with it, he's a partner like me for BH. so i decied to help him with the problem but discovered the pack didn't load properly under modrinth or cf app in linux. turned out some of the mods in the pack were loading a lwjgl. java from higher minecraft versions on lower minecraft version mods. prism launcher is the only launcher that front loads the newer lwjgl onto older minecraft builds thus allowing those badly backported mods to not crash a client.

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but it happened only on amd architecture linuxes with amd gpus

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total edge case, but prism launcher was the mighty mouse that came to save the day

steel willow
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I'm pretty sure Deck is AMD.

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But ATLauncher runs just as good as prism.

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CurseForge I tried to run but it hates me at times.

whole nexus
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here is that experience documented.

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00:00 Intro
00:09 It's a me, Kreezxil!
00:19 Curseforge called it a feature and not bug.
00:27 Discussing edge case systems which are Linux + AMD based mobo + AMD GPU
00:41 The issue, why we need 3.3.2 LWJGL in 1.20.1
00:57 Why it's an issue. I blame backporting.
01:11 1.20.1 comes with 3.3.1-SNAPSHOT of LWJGL
01:18 1.20.2+ come with 3.3.2 NOTE:...

▶ Play video
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atlauncher is a bit antequated. use prism launcher, it's fully open source community driven

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and it can be skinned if you find it ugly

steel willow
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True

steel willow
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Oh, I forgor, it also usually happens whenever I try to access smth in an invventory. What could be causing that?

whole nexus
# steel willow Oh, I forgor, it also usually happens whenever I try to access smth in an invven...

that sounds like a ticking entity issue and the only way to fix that is the server's latest.log needs to be given, so we can ascertain what it is. then the server owner can edit the container and remove the ticking entity. it can also be a non-existant item that is still registered to the chest, a way that happens is you are trying out mods and you run with a mod for a while and decide it must go not realizing someone has used one of the bad items/blocks in some way, in this case, you, its in that chest.

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so yeah, server owner needs to get on share the server's latest.log and we can go from there.

steel willow
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OKay

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I'll have to see when I can get that

whole nexus
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when you do share it here and the next loyalist or BHer that comes along will help you. if no one pops on to help you and y ou can't wait any longer open a ticket, they can help you even faster.

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!ticket

digital fjordBOT
whole nexus
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the server onwer is the only one that make the tickets for a server, or anyone else the server owner designates under the permissions.

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for the server panel that is.

steel willow
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Gotcha

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I hade a feeling it was smth server side.

steel willow
steel willow
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So another thing, kinda funny. I downloaded the modpack from discord.

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I have a plan, and it's tedious but it won't kill me.

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I uninstalled Prism Launcher, ATLauncher, and the Minecraft Launcher clients. I'm going to re-dowmload Prism, and then manually install the mod list. Marking down any invalid mods, resource packs, and shader packs.

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Then I will proceed to get those off of CurseForge.

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I will also only be grabbing the mods from CurseForge so then the pack doesn't take anything from Modrinth.

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It's tedious, but it's the only way I can think of to get around it fully.

whole nexus
whole nexus
marble sapphire
whole nexus
marble sapphire
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...

whole nexus
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but i also found a mod in that latest.log that is from 1.19, while the rest of the pack is 1.20.1

marble sapphire
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When mods are on both services, the files are the same from both services.

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Better?

whole nexus
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i also found a mod, cc: tweaked, that went to a certain version on curseforge and then squiddev decided all future development releases are on modrinth

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and I was like why would you do that

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i'm with you tho, they should be identical on both services, mine are.

steel willow
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The game shouldn't even register that as a playable mod.

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It shouldn't even let me connect to a server.

steel willow
steel willow
# whole nexus are you the pack designer?

Collaborative between me and all of the people who would join in and be on the server. It's private not public so only those who have the IP can join it, and I can't share it publicly.

steel willow
marble sapphire
steel willow
steel willow
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This is one from the other day. I did my whole thing with uninstalling, then reinstalling prism, and I then manually installed the entire pack. However, I'm still getting the same error.

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I'll ask for the latest log when I can.

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Gotta wait for now.

steel willow
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One of the people who owns the server said it could be corrupted player data, or mod version mismatching, or something else.

steel willow
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!ticket

digital fjordBOT
steel willow
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Guess I'm going to need to wait.

scarlet lintel
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Luckily, they respond within 15 minutes usually, so they'll get to it ASAP

steel willow
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I can't get into it, I don't think.

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I'm a player on the server, not someone who owns it.

scarlet lintel
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Ah then they'd need to send it off, especially if it IS happening to be corrupted playerdata. PalicoCry

steel willow
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Oof

steel willow
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Cause corrupted player data I feel should be a last resort.

scarlet lintel
steel willow
scarlet lintel
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🧠 Big brain. I gotta clock out for the night, but keep us updated.

steel willow
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Yeah fs

whole nexus
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@steel willow since your the pack designer and the hoster is running it for you, I recommend that they add you in such way as to be able to make tickets. https://www.bisecthosting.com/clients/index.php?rp=/knowledgebase/63/How-to-create-a-sub-account.html

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have them follow that, also you need to do part of it so as to become registered on bh so they can find you when they do their part.

steel willow
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We all talked to one person and they built the pack off of mods we recommended or asked for.

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This is the screenshot again. I've gotten this on Xbox before, a WHILE back, I think, on one of the older versions of Minecraft. Played a lot of Hive for Bedrock. No mods, just crazy resource packs. Which led to the game bringing me to a screen where it would say Internal exception. But it was a different error, and it usually was some kind of timeout. So, since it's not my Internet, surprisingly. The only two resorts I have left are mod version mismatching, and hopefully not corrupted player data.

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So would that mean, for the term, Internal Exception, what's happening is more likely in this case mod version mismatching.

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Thus, leading me to remember the term from simpler and better times. Which, now, leads me to ask, since I remember having the issue with the vanilla game, would Internal Exception be the server side, not the player?

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Cause if it is just mod version mismatching then that makes more sense immediately than corrupt player data.

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Unless it's a yes and/or no question I'm asking.

steel willow
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I did some more research, and got that question answered.

steel willow
# whole nexus <@1470960977871638538> since your the pack designer and the hoster is running it...

I'm going through with someone later today to see whether or not I have the right mod versions, painfully so, but still, hopefully I'll be at ends with this soon. IF it doesn't work, since it's NBT Data stuff, a mod in the pack probably just has an unreasonably large packet, so I found a couple of mods that should help with packet fixing. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, then I'm just going to ask to do ts, and send in a ticket.

whole nexus
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you will then have exactly the same thing to get into the server with

steel willow
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Tried that already, surprisingly.

whole nexus
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then it's not the pack, something else is going on.

steel willow
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Unless they just send me the mods folder directly, which also hasn't been tried yet.

whole nexus
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we're going to need that latest.log from the server at the time you try to connect

steel willow
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I see

whole nexus
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the export import is no different than copying the mods folder

steel willow
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Right.

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So if I get the mods folder directly, Prism should import the exact versions and no other versions of the mods, right?

whole nexus
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you're saying two different things

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if you get the mods folder directly you delete your existing mods folder and drop in the new one

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no importing will happen

steel willow
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Ohhhh

whole nexus
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in any mod pack launcher, what they will do is attempt to index them and link to existing versions

steel willow
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Oh.

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I did not know that?

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So if I get the direct mods folder, not the whole pack folder, but specifically the mods folder, then import that, Prism has to match the versions of the mods being added, right?

whole nexus
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the direct mods folder copy and drop-in would be the most reliable if mods were gotten from curseforge, modrinth, github, gitlab, 9minecraft, and other places.

whole nexus
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ideally you might want to get the config and scripts/kubejs folders too

steel willow
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I've been getting a whole pack.

whole nexus
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if the mods are only from cf, the export import is exactly the same as a drop-in, i know how that works.

steel willow
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So then something is happening with Prism Launcher that's not quite right when I try to get the pack.

whole nexus
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at a minimum prismlauncher is detecting mods that must be downloaded via webpage. and just pay attention to the dialogues it's giving you.

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I suggested prism launcher based on our initial conversation

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but after all this, its not you, it's the server

steel willow
whole nexus
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and you likely hit the nail on the head earlier when you said someone suggested it's either corrupted nbt player data or world data (i suggested the latter, when said it happened when you opened a chest)

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I use cf on linux mint 22.3 but when I have issues i use prism launcher

steel willow
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Ah

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I see.

whole nexus
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i use cf because I want to give them bug reports so it becomes the standard

steel willow
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Yeah, SteamOS is built off of Arch Linux, I think?

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Can't remember off the top of my head.

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But packet communication between mods seems to be the biggest problem.

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That's what I think I've gotten it down to because if I'm not wrong, and as far as I'm aware, Netty, Handshake, and Packet data all fall under NBT data. So getting something to let the packets have breathing room should help if it persists after figuring out which mod versions I need.

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Which, in the end, it turns out it was mods all along.

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So as long as I'm on par with everyone else, it should work out, and if that doesn't work we'll try the mod(s) for giving packet data room to work with the update to the pack.

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Then if that doesn't work, well...

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The only resort is data corruption.

whole nexus
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i also have arch systems in my home and my buddy across town is on arch, no issues with minecraft.

steel willow
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Huh

steel willow
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So uh...

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Good news?

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Maybe?

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The world for our server got corrupted.

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Luckily we have backups.

steel willow
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It's bad.

scarlet lintel
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How bad we talking? RWnoted

steel willow
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All modded blocks getting swapped out for other modded blocks, however they're still the original blocks placed.

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We are adding mods though, and that appears to be the culprit.

scarlet lintel
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Normally this would be if the modpack needs to be reinstalled either on the server or locally (normally the server). Saw that happen once on an Oceanblock server, was absolutely wild

steel willow
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It's from the server owner side.

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Nobody else has joined yet.

scarlet lintel
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If someone else did try, it'd confirm whether it's server side or client side at least RWnod As if the server is borked for both - it's likely either the pack as a whole, or the server needs a reinstall to the exact versions of things in the pack - more often the latter

steel willow
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Oof.

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That's rough.

scarlet lintel
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Typically the reinstall on the server should fix it

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It's definitely the rough patch of tweaking modpacks tamomDead

steel willow
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Man, I kinda wish they'd just contact support for Bisect instead of heading through it like they know. 😔 🙏

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I've learned so much about server modding from one conversation with people.

scarlet lintel
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A lot of us got this experience from breaking things the same way or looking at enough of the broken ones. Gotta break it to learn to fix it. Here's hoping they get it turned around

steel willow
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I guess so, plus everyone isn't the same.

scarlet lintel
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Exactly RWnod Worst comes to worst, that's what backups are for assuming they got one before things went catty wompus

steel willow
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If it persists, I'll advise contacting support.

scarlet lintel
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For sure! We can at least help lookover logs and see if we see anything standing out RWnod

scarlet lintel
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Good good. The number of times I see people do large tweaks without them NOOOOO

scarlet lintel
steel willow
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IT WAS PACKET SIZE ERRORS

scarlet lintel
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The biggest and wrinkliest brain

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AYE

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Womp the GIF

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/Pic

steel willow
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Awww

scarlet lintel
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Now you know how it feels to pull hair like we do sometimes to find fixes kek

steel willow
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It's the meme of the dog with it's eyes closed.

scarlet lintel
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Yeah I saw the greatness 🙏

steel willow
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lol

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I had a feeling that it was something server side.

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I fricking knew it dude.

scarlet lintel
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Odd that it let them in with it being a packet thing, typically it'd just time them out or give them registry errors. Props to you dood 👏

steel willow
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Also, with the backups, it reinstalls like everything lol, so we're good on corrupted data.

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It reverts to certain backups and stops the data at that point so then new data gets created instead.

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Which is good.

scarlet lintel
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Ye huge brain RWnod

steel willow
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So I guess, in the end, it was world corruption.

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We fixed the pack. (:

scarlet lintel
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Glad I saw this, I was about to clock out kek

steel willow
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lol

scarlet lintel
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But yeah that'd be my next step if you don't to rewind the world too far

steel willow
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The last backup we had was like this afternoon.

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And it happened before the corruption.

steel willow
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DAWG

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THERE'S NO WAY

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We just updated it AGAIN

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And it's STILL happening.

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Even adding Packet Fixer and XL Packets.

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Oh

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And I can't send the link to the logs.

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Huh

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This is the latest log from when I last ran it.

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Nah frick this bro

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Here's the latest version of the modpack.

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Just in case people want to take a look into it

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eepy seepy time now.

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1.20.1

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btw

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NOW eepy seepy time

steel willow
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Also to mention, I've been on Linux, while everyone else is on Windows, could it be some kind of OS miscommunication?

steel willow
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Got something new.

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Game crashed with a code 143.

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Doesn't give me the log.

whole nexus
# steel willow

watch the video carefully, see if you did all the things I did. I connected to your server fine with this pack zip.

steel willow
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How'd you get the address?

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@whole nexus

steel willow
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It's just my end.

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Plus, it was already named the awesome fun pack lol.

tired parcel
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IPs aren't a secret (but also listed in the logs you sent 😉 )

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The only way to keep people out that shouldn't be on the server is to whitelist it!

steel willow
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Ah, thx

tired parcel
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Just in general, the address has been used for countless (Minecraft) servers before. There's tons of bots scanning IPs to see what server can be joined. It's a little harder with modded servers because they have to get the pack right, but whitelisting is a good idea regardless in my opinion :)

steel willow
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I think at this point, I might see about getting into being a sub user and sending in a ticket since it's better and faster support. I'm going to get this channel going gone, and so that I can just throw it at BH support directly.

tired parcel
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Definitely faster! But i think Kree has put a lot of time and effort into helping, so 'better' is subjective i guess Hehe

steel willow
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I will say this has helped me learn quite a bit about servers and mods.

steel willow
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Ty Kree (Iyst)

steel willow
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So, because it might be player data...