hey i was wondering why most plugins/mods ive downloaded just dont work, the only ones that did work was a vein miner from a youtube vid and a grave plugin from the plugin section, took me forever to find these cuz no mods work
#How to add more content to the server? (Plugins vs Mods)
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hot relic
Well, plugins and mods are two different things.
high light
ive downloaded stuff from modrinth and curseforge, and also used plugins from these 2 tabs
hot relic
So let's start with that.
Bukkit (RIP) made a Plugin standard that Spigot, Paper, Purpur, etc. implement. So to use Bukkit-style plugins, you need to be running one of those servers.
Mods use a modloader. Forge, Fabric, Quilt, NeoForge, etc.
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how do i get a modloader?
hot relic
Datapacks are like plugins, but with more limited functionality. But they (should*) work with any type of server since it's something in the game from Mojang.
hot relic
how do i get a modloader?
So you want to run Mods, not Plugins?
You can't mix the two.
(Okay, so there are ways you can, but for someone who doesn't know there's a difference you're jumping into the deep end of the wave pool with weighted armbands...)
high light
So you want to run _Mods_, not _Plugins?_
well
i just want to be able to have things that change gameplay
hot relic
That's a start.
You need to know how you want to change gameplay to know where to go from here.
So let's start at the start.
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a few examples would be better chests, better end, graves, crops re planting themselves, stuff like that
hot relic
What Minecraft version?
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the latest
hot relic
Like literally "BetterChests" and "BetterEnd" or just improvements to chests and end generation?
hot relic
Okay - there are ways to do those with either.
If you were looking for the mod named BetterChests, that hasn't been updated in years and you'd have to run 1.12.2.
high light
i know that the mods have to be the same version of the game
i basically tested like a billion mods/plugins on the right version and most didnt work
other than the 2 already mentioned
hot relic
Let's start with the biggest blocker:
Are you okay with making your players install mods on their side, or should people be able to connect with plain out-of-the-box Minecraft?
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that would be all good my server is lunar client only
hot relic
How to add more content to the server? (Plugins vs Mods)
hot relic
that would be all good my server is lunar client only
Then you're going to want to stick with plugins on Paper.
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would it work to have both plugins and mods?
hot relic
That limits what you can change, but to the players they can use Lunar or plain Minecraft or Fabulously Optimized, Optifine, whatever.
hot relic
would it work to have both plugins and mods?
Remember what I said about jumping in the deep end of a wave pool with weighted arm bands?
You'd have enough issues going down that path that to do anything more than point you to the wiki for the server that does both and make you read it yourself would be a disservice.
hot relic
They aren't designed to work together.
high light
i see
hot relic
Plugins presume any items and mechanics are "vanilla-like" enough that when modded items start showing up they can freak out and crash, or just get buggy, or...
And vice-versa - mods don't know to listen to updates that plugins send to each other, so they get confused and...
It's like someone trying to speak Portuguese in Mexico - you can kinda understand some of it, but there's enough that doesn't match up to make it very difficult.
high light
are plugins able to have the same "stuff" as mods, like would it be possible that there is a plugin very similar to a mod
hot relic
Sometimes.
high light
an example being a better end plugin, and a better end mod
hot relic
It depends on the "stuff".
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or a graves plugin and a graves mod
hot relic
Plugins can change End terrain generation and introduce some variations on the existing mobs.
But unlike the BetterEnd mod, new blocks and trees are out.
high light
hmm
so which would be better to use for my server? like which would i be able to get better "gamelplay changes" (being everything that comes from mods and plugins) from
hot relic
There's a reason why I asked if you were okay with making your players install mods. And you said you wanted them to use an "effectively plain" client.
So either you change that decision or you're limited to plugins.
You could do that with mods - but what the mods can change are limited to what plugins can change, and you have to figure that out on a mod-by-mod basis as you put it together.
high light
There's a reason why I asked if you were okay with making your players install m...
are mods not able to be added if you are using an "effectievly plain" client?
hot relic
The mods have to limit themselves to the same types of things that plugins are inherently restricted to.
To the client it has to look like "plain" Minecraft.
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how do i make sure im not downloading mods and im getting plugins?
high light
okay i see
hot relic
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where do i get the plugins from spigotmc?
hot relic
Under Resources
hot relic
There are, but AFAIK there aren't any plugins there that aren't in at least one of the other two, and their search is worse than Modrinth's.
high light
oh okay
are addons the same as plugins because on curseforge there is a tab called addons
also data packs too
i dont se plugins on curseforge
hot relic
Addons are for Bedrock.