#[SpigotMC 1.12.2] Plugin setup for Factions server

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urban sphinx
barren rain
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Send a screenshot of the console

urban sphinx
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im trying to use a plugin but it states it doesnt work with java as well is there any modpack that isnt java?

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thats not installed in the server btw it actually forces the server to close if i add it in so this server with that log is brand new

queen adder
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It's been a long time since I played with Bungee... This is the proxy, right?

Doesn't Bungee log out the servers it proxies for on startup? I don't see that here.

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Nor do I see a connection attempt.

urban sphinx
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i dont know i havent played mc in like 6 years and theres no OP factions servers so ima start one

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because on mc its not online via 2nd picture

queen adder
urban sphinx
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how would there be a connection if i cant physically even try to connect the server says offline

queen adder
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You should be able to still hit the ▶️ /Connect button for the client to try anyway.

urban sphinx
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ok ill click it

queen adder
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Also, the lobby server behind bungee is up and running? Can you directly connect to it?

urban sphinx
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what do you mean by that?

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am i supposed to buy another server to link to it or sum

queen adder
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That's all it does.

craggy dove
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Bungeecord is the proxy server. Another server would act as a hub, another could be Creative, another would be survival, ect.

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If the intent is to run just one server, you should be using Spigot, Paper, or another plugin variant.

Or any of the modded server loaders if that's what you're needing.

queen adder
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Since it's been a while since you've hosted, is it possible you got Bukkit/Spigot and Bungee backwards? 🙂

urban sphinx
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Meaning id have to buy another server to link to it correct?

queen adder
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At least 2 more.

urban sphinx
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ahh its been to long

queen adder
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No point in running Bungee to just proxy for a single backend server.

urban sphinx
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im just making one server an Op factions server thats it

queen adder
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Okay, then you want Spigot/Paper.

urban sphinx
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but i also need something that hosts without java

queen adder
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Uh... wut.

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Minecraft runs on Java.

urban sphinx
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as i have a plugin(bought) that doesnt work with java

queen adder
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What does it work with, then? Bedrock?

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What plugin is it?

urban sphinx
queen adder
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That runs on Java.

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It requires Spigot/Paper, so it runs on Java.

urban sphinx
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right in their discord says no java but ill try spigot i did bukkit last time

queen adder
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Bukkit is dead.

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There's not been an official release of Bukkit in years.

urban sphinx
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really?

queen adder
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Spigot team maintains Bukkit just to have a place where they make the more rudimentary changes for new versions, but they do not release official builds.

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I'm not sure what they mean by Java Agents, but Agent is the key word there.

urban sphinx
queen adder
urban sphinx
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even 1.12.2

queen adder
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[17:27:53 INFO]: There was an issue while attempting to execute a redis command. (Connection refused: /127.0.0.1:6379)
[17:27:53 INFO]: There was an issue with the database! Disabling.

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The plugin requires MongoDB and Redis - neither of which Bisect offers.

urban sphinx
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rip

kindred cargo
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Dude. Redis.

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I was just gonna point that out.

urban sphinx
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bad? good?

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i dont need to use the plugin but it sounded nice to use

kindred cargo
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Redis is a cache for data.

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To be used with SQL, dotnet, or anything else.

queen adder
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Mongo and Redis both offer their services as paid hosted services, but I'm not sure what exactly you wanted out of this plugin that you couldn't get out of something more self-contained like CMI.

kindred cargo
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.Zactly

urban sphinx
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i got it for free homie talked it up said it was good

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but its just seeming to be a headache not tryna go find another host and pay for another server

queen adder
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What features of it exactly were you looking for?

kindred cargo
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Phoenix is 30 Euro. Non refundable.

urban sphinx
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just seemed like a good "basic" multi purpose plugin

queen adder
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Yeah, it isn't basic if it requires Mongo and Redis.

kindred cargo
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That would be Essentials or CMI.

urban sphinx
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is it a good plugin? or would essentials/cmi. work just as good?

queen adder
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Hoss swears by CMI.

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I've used EssentialsX before for super simple stuff and it was solid.

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CMI is also half the cost of Phoenix.

urban sphinx
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like i said im just making a Op/Super op factions server

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cmi work on bisect?

queen adder
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Yup.

urban sphinx
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i assume so

queen adder
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It works on anything - completely self-contained for a single server.

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If you expanded, it uses MySQL (which Bisect provides) to sync between servers.

kindred cargo
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I used Essentials for about 3 years. Switched to CMI 7 years ago. Never went back. MUST-HAVE plugin in my opinion.

queen adder
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!cmi

stray hullBOT
urban sphinx
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can you send the link?

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nvm

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crackhead was quick to do it lmfao joking

kindred cargo
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He's got them shaky fingers.

urban sphinx
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all the addy huh

queen adder
urban sphinx
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bet ima get that and start working been tryna use this plugin for like 24-48 hours been pissing me off lowkey

queen adder
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Yeah, that's an Enterprise level plugin when a Small-Medium Business grade one like CMI is more than functional.

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Or even the more SOHO grade EssentialsX.

urban sphinx
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enterprise meaning like really good right?

queen adder
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Enterprise meaning like for professionals with a board of directors and budgets and...

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Not like the USS Enterprise.

urban sphinx
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ahh

queen adder
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Sorry, my day job is software and we do a lot of "home users need X, small businesses need Y, and big enterprise customers need Z."

urban sphinx
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ur all good homie

kindred cargo
urban sphinx
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@kindred cargo@queen adder just bought it

queen adder
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[SpigotMC 1.12.2] Plugin setup for Factions server

urban sphinx
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Awesome thanks all 4 of you shoulda done this yesterday lol

queen adder
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That's what the Discord is here for - asking others for "hey, is there a better way to do this?"

It's like Stack Overflow for game servers. Without the updoot system.

urban sphinx
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im still waiting in their discord for help lol like 18 hours

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dont need them anymore

queen adder
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I think Hoss said the CMI web forum would get responses quicker than that most days.

urban sphinx
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i got cmi as soon as i bought it instantly just went over to purchases and it was there

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@kindred cargo@queen adder is there something im supposed to install with cmi?

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to make it work?

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or do i need a specific version for 1.12.2

queen adder
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It's all on that website - CMIlib you need in addition to the main plugin.

You may need an older version for 1.12.2

kindred cargo
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Dl the latest, but you have to dl cmilib from the link on the frontnpage

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also I am out for the night. Watching movies with a special lady.

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(Don't tell my wife!)

queen adder
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I heard she had a movie date herself tonight anyway.

urban sphinx
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i told my wife and she said i need to remove you from the internet im sorry

urban sphinx
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Any of you know any good faction plugins support 1.12.2 spigot free or paid ofc good vouchs for paid

urban sphinx
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@queen adder how good is bisect hosting for bigger servers say 500 maybe more

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Anything recommend? Plugins that help keep it running smooth etc

queen adder
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This is the better question to ask openly for those who have run larger servers to answer. I've always been in the dozen or so size class.

kindred cargo
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Back in the day (1.11 and 1.12), we ran servers that got into the 50+ range for players all on at the same time. BUT this was entirely dependant on the Minecraft version. on 1.9 for example, you could easily do more. On 1.20? You're gonna cap out at 60-70 unless you so serious feature trimming.

urban sphinx
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its on 1.12.2

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but i shouldn't need bungee if im only running one singular server, theres not a hub to Teleport to the server you just spawn right into the server in the spawn

queen adder
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Right, I'm saying once you're up in the hundreds is when you start looking at bungee to distribute the load.

urban sphinx
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How exactly does that work??

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just a bungee hub and then multiple servers that connect all into the same one type shi?

queen adder
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Bungee hub and then do things like separating out a "mining world" for things like stripping entire biomes to bedrock and then get reset.

urban sphinx
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ah okay would i need seperate files/configs or can i dupe and be all good?

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i just know once im done with all the basic stuff im going straight to a bunch of promotion

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how would i be able to make it anywhere from 1.8 to 1. whatever the newest is

queen adder
urban sphinx
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i got all that so thats perfect

queen adder
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Right, but you have to move them from single-server mode to keeping all their info in MySQL.

urban sphinx
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what permissions plugin do you use with cmi? and what way do you go about making Prefixes/Suffixs ie: Red{founder} Prefix or Green{Savage} Suffix

queen adder
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Hoss and I both use PeX. Luck Perms is popular, but has more frequent updates from security issues with the web configurator and hooking deeper into Minecraft/being more version dependent.

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If you don't mind watching for updates, either works great. If you want to add the plugin today and never touch it again, PeX. If you're not great with commands and/or text editing, LuckPerms.

urban sphinx
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@queen adder check out my permEX Thread please

queen adder
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I am out running errands.

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Apparently as is Hoss. I will look later if nobody beats me to it.

urban sphinx
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Awesome thanks man

urban sphinx
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@queen adder Ended up getting it to work it needed to be reinstalled but how do i make the prefix work? i made the group Founder added me to it and made the Prefix say founder but it doesnt show in chat

urban sphinx
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Also is there a way to make it so when typing a command(Most normal people that join the server) instead of doing say /cmi repair they can do /repair if that makes sense

queen adder
queen adder
craggy dove
urban sphinx
urban sphinx
kindred cargo
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Just got in. Yeah, CMI default aliased command on by default. The reason you wouldn't want one on (completely configurable down to each command via configs) is because you might be using another plugin like mcMMO that also has a repair command. You don't want both to be repair, so you can set CMI to make sure you call CMI's repair by specifying /CMI REPAIR

urban sphinx
urban sphinx
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[14:30:45 INFO]: [world]<Preliked> t

kindred cargo
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You're using Multiverse, right?

urban sphinx
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yep

kindred cargo
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That's in the multiverse config file.

urban sphinx
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and multiworld

kindred cargo
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Multiworld?

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And Multiverse?

urban sphinx
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thought they had to be together no?

kindred cargo
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No, they are competing plugins that do the same thing.

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use one or the other.

urban sphinx
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thats probably why i cant get rid of the world thing huh

kindred cargo
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haha maybe. I prefer Multiverse. It's a one line change in that config. true to false.

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I've never used anything other than multiverse since back to like 1.10

urban sphinx
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i keep going in the config file and turning off prefix and taking out the [world] part saving and restarting and it goes right back to where it was

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and i deleted multiworld

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do i need to disable async too/

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?&*

kindred cargo
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Before you make any changes to files... Stop the server. Change the files, Start the server.

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No Async is fine

urban sphinx
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prefixchat: 'false'
prefixchatformat: '%chat%'

kindred cargo
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Some config files get overwritten/saved as you restart a server.

urban sphinx
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ok server is stopped changed those 2 things

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saving and starting it

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what would i do without hoss

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shi used to be so easy either i forgot or it got harder

kindred cargo
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scramble around and figured it out yourself in 5x the time. I'm just a shortcut.

urban sphinx
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it was not stopping the server for that one

kindred cargo
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Though, I was one of those scramble around types, which is why I'm pretty familiar with all the popular and not so popular plugins

urban sphinx
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so for the group prefixs do i need to add that to the multiverse too?

kindred cargo
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Nope.

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in Pex, you specify prefixes and suffixes, and in CMI, you specify the chat format, and where to put them.

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So in pex, you have prefix=Owner, but you're also using a class system, or ranks, set the suffix to that value. In CMI you set the chat string to "$prefix% %suffix% %nickname% >" and it comes out like:

[Owner] [Mage] BigHoss (For me, as the owner, but regular players get:)
[Fighter] Someguy'sname >

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Anyone without a prefix role would show it as not existing.

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You could also use prefix for VIP, Mod, Newb, whatever you want.

urban sphinx
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idk what im doing wrong its not working

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GeneralFormat: '{group}{prefix}&f{displayName}&7: &r{message}'

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cmi

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Owner:
inheritance:
- Player
- Admin
options:
prefix: '[Owner] '
weight: '100'
rank: '70'

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pex

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[14:54:08 INFO]: <Preliked> t

urban sphinx
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am i supposed to have something else i dont get it, iused to have a whole plugin just for this

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ok got the chat to start working had to turn cmi chat on and idk if it helped i installed placeholder api now i got the default prefix of [Player] so i set my group to owner again and it didnt change

kindred cargo
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CMI chat on is all you needed. Placeholder AI is to make new <placeholders>

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Because you didn't specify a new prefix in owner.

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hold on, lemme get an example of a working file...

urban sphinx
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Owner:
inheritance:
- Player
- Admin
options:
prefix: '&6[&cOwner&6]&7'
weight: '100'
rank: '70'
permissions:
- worldedit.*
- essentials.kits.*
- essentials.afk.kickexempt
- modifyworld.*

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owner has a prefix

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pex file

kindred cargo
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  Owner:
    inheritance:
    - Co-Owner
    permissions:
    - discordsrv.silentquit
    - discordsrv.silentjoin
    - cmi.messages.disablelogin
    - cmi.messages.disablequit
    - bukkit.command.*
    - minecraft.command.*
    - permissions.*
    options:
      prefix: '&8[&6Owner&8]&7 '
      rank: '1'
      weight: '1'
  Co-Owner:
    inheritance:
    - Admin
    permissions:
    - cmi.command.*
    - cmi.command.effect
    - cmi.command.staffmsg
    - cmi.command.gm.creative
    - gamemode.creative
    options:
      prefix: '&8[&dCo-Owner&8]&7 '
      rank: '2'
      weight: '2'
  Admin:
    options:
      prefix: '&8[&4Admin&8]&7 '
      rank: '10'
      weight: '10'
    permissions:
    - cmi.command.tppos.others
    - cmi.command.jail
urban sphinx
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Player:
options:
default: true
prefix: '[Player] '
suffix: '&7'
weight: '20'
rank: '100'

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yea i have a prefix for it

kindred cargo
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sorry it was hard to read without the code brackets.

urban sphinx
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yea theres nothing different my owner has a prefix i set myself to owner im not sure whats bugging

kindred cargo
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Here's one with prefix and suffix action, perms remove to show rank and weight:


  Owner:
    inheritance:
    - Co-Owner
    options:
      prefix: '&8[&6Owner&8]&7 '
      rank: '1'
      weight: '1'
    permissions:
    - bukkit.command.*
    - minecraft.command.*
    - permissions.*
  Co-Owner:
    inheritance:
    - Admin
    options:
      prefix: '&8[&dCo-Owner&8]&7 '
      rank: '2'
      weight: '2'
    permissions:
    - cmi.command.*
  Admin:
    options:
      prefix: '&8[&4Admin&8]&7 '
      rank: '10'
      weight: '10'
    permissions:
    - cmi.command.tppos.others
  Celestial:
    inheritance:
    - Eternal
    options:
      suffix: '&8[&6Celestial&8]&7 '
      rank: '20'
      weight: '20'
    permissions:
    - cmi.command.sethome.20
  Eternal:
    inheritance:
    - Legend
    options:
      suffix: '&8[&cEternal&8]&7 '
      rank: '30'
      weight: '30'
    permissions:
    - cmi.command.sethome.10
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Rank and weight, #1 at the top, and bigger numbers go to lesser players.

urban sphinx
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Owner:
inheritance:
-Admin
options:
prefix: '&6[&cOwner&6]&7'
weight: '1'
rank: '1'
permissions:
- worldedit.*
- essentials.kits.*
- essentials.afk.kickexempt
- modifyworld.*

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Owner

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Player:
options:
default: true
prefix: '[&1Player] '
suffix: '&7'
weight: '100'
rank: '100'

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i just deleted my permissions file cause something messed up causing it do disable its okay didnt need it anyway copied ur last one and pasted it gave myself owner didnt work

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also disabled default group on the player one to false

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but then i reenable player default rank and set the prefix and it worked

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but only player not owner

kindred cargo
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hah, yeah, I didn't get to default on that example. My pex file is 600 lines long.

urban sphinx
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with the weight being 1000

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nah ur good dont worry about that

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once i figure the basic itll be long

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groups:
default:
options:
default: true
prefix: '[&1Member]'
rank: '1000'
weight: '1000'
permissions:
- modifyworld.*
Owner:
inheritance:
- Co-Owner
options:
prefix: '&8[&6Owner&8]&7 '
rank: '1'
weight: '1'
permissions:
- bukkit.command.*
- minecraft.command.*
- permissions.*
Co-Owner:
inheritance:
- Admin
options:
prefix: '&8[&dCo-Owner&8]&7 '
rank: '2'
weight: '2'
permissions:
- cmi.command.*
Admin:
options:
prefix: '&8[&4Admin&8]&7 '
rank: '10'
weight: '10'
permissions:
- cmi.command.tppos.others
Celestial:
inheritance:
- Eternal
options:
suffix: '&8[&6Celestial&8]&7 '
rank: '20'
weight: '20'
permissions:
- cmi.command.sethome.20
Eternal:
inheritance:
- Legend
options:
suffix: '&8[&cEternal&8]&7 '
rank: '30'
weight: '30'
permissions:
- cmi.command.sethome.10
schema-version: 1
users:
6b1c0709-4ae8-4c1b-aa89-19fd5be1cb09:
options:
group: Owner
name: Preliked

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do i need to turn default to true on everything?

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but that would make it so owner is giving to someone joining fresh

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correct

kindred cargo
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Noooooo Default: true should only be on the first join server rank. It's the default rank everyone gets at first.

urban sphinx
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thats what i thought

kindred cargo
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You don't need default:false for the rest either

urban sphinx
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then why isnt it registering that i put myself to owner?

kindred cargo
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I don't know, and can't look further at it, because I need to jet and pick up a kid from work.

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😦

urban sphinx
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rip ill figure it out drive safe homie thanks for all the help

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my daughter running around a crazy person right now

urban sphinx
rain ice
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CMI is such a, EH plugin. it has too many exploits and does too much for 1 plugin.

urban sphinx
# rain ice CMI is such a, EH plugin. it has too many exploits and does too much for 1 plugi...

but yet when using cmi i was running into error after error after error but as soon as i installed essentials i didnt even touch anything and the things that were busted started to work, i.e prefixes and ranks i didnt touch pex same files and it worked nothing was stopping them from working on cmi the default rank prefix worked but nun of the other ones installed essentials and it worked without touching any config

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im bugging

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dont listen to me i read ur msg wrong

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idk why i saw cmi is better lol

kindred cargo
rain ice
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Cmi is great and all, but imo too much for what it does. when you have cmi in a big server its exploited pretty easily.

kindred cargo
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Exploited how?

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I would assume a lack of proper permission assignment is the only way to exploit it.

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And that's on the server owner.

rain ice
kindred cargo
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Do you know the details how it was exploited? I'd like to read up on it.

rain ice
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it was a while ago ill try searching

kindred cargo
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There was the TP exploit that let you see the end-coords of a person near you who teleported, but that was fixed immediately. If that's the one from 2019... it hasn't been a thing since... 2019.

rain ice
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from January. most likely patched but this year

Screenshot_2024-01-06_164458.png
kindred cargo
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CMILib doesn't take commands, so I don't know how you can exploit it to TP you anywhere. You would have to exploit CMI/Residence (eachhave TP commands). When was that posted, and is there a proof of concept?

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Or, where was it posted.

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I'll let zrips know if he doesn't already.

craggy dove
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#526389460074627080 message

kindred cargo
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That is unknown to me.

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I may not be in that discord

craggy dove
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The message I link was Zrips Discord posted on 1/6/24. I don't know where Tamz's was from. I assume they're both referring to the same thing.

kindred cargo
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If I recall, that was fixed later that day, and there have been 49 updates to CMILib since then. :/

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I'mma check tho

queen adder
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Fixed same-day isn't "exploited pretty easily". That's an amazingly good software support model.

kindred cargo
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There's the problem. Fixed the same day, but people weren't updating.

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Probably because half of CMI's users get it from Blackspigot, which introduces it's own exploits.

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I remember this because people were shouting how the sky was falling, and it wasn't an issue.

urban sphinx
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didnt even know this was happening lmfao

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idk cmi wasnt working for me idk why

kindred cargo
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It happened a long time ago.

urban sphinx
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i got essentials working and setup with all my groups/ranks

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no i mean yalls convo

kindred cargo
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And apparently Tamz is still pointing at the sky. haha

urban sphinx
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idk cmi was bugging wouldnt let me use the groups and ranks

kindred cargo
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Essentials works.

urban sphinx
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maybe once the rest of the server setup ill go back and update everything to cmi assuming thats easy

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i personally dont care about a bunch of plugins it actually makes it easier for me to understand whats happening through what plugin

kindred cargo
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But you then have to add on rank plugins, hologram plugins, portal plugins, boss bar plugins, TAB plugins, alias plugins, autoannounce plugins, inventory control plugins, spawn plugins, NBT editor, etc etc etc etc...

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CMI has 'em all built in.

urban sphinx
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rank plugins?

kindred cargo
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Yup

urban sphinx
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done right through Pex/Essentials wym

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remember this is only 1 server not a hub for multiple only Op factions

kindred cargo
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If you want players to be able to do things like, kill 500 spiders, walk 200 miles, and then have the system automatically rank them up to the next level... essentials doesn't do that.

urban sphinx
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idc about that dont need it maybe in the future but most ranks are bought

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i dont need a rankup system just needed my ranks to work with prefixes and perms etc

kindred cargo
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If you don't need all those things. don't worry about it...

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But if you need holograms, portals, INVsee/INVManagement...

urban sphinx
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now i did something that messed up pex

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invsee is on essentials

kindred cargo
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Online only. 😛

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CMI lets you see inventory of people offline. AND edit it.

urban sphinx
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but then explain why my prefixes werent working for any rank other then default?

kindred cargo
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I don't know, but I guarantee it was a config error.

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Not a CMI error.

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That pex file I sampled to you, was for Pex and CMI

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Wait, did you install a VAULT compatible with CMI?

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CMI needs vault to read Pex prefixes/suffixes.

pure tangle
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hey quick question and sorry to interrupt, but I have a genuine question , should i put that in community support even though I don't need support for anything?

kindred cargo
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If it's a general question without support needs, put it in the general area.

pure tangle
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okay

kindred cargo
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#👋general-no-support

queen adder
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If it's going to be a whole thread, a community support post works, too.

urban sphinx
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yes vault is in

kindred cargo
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a CMI compatible one?

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pure tangle
kindred cargo
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Not just for economy.

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Vault is needed by any plugin that wants to access another plugin's files/information.

urban sphinx
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i mean it had to have worked since it pulled default prefix

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whats wrong with this?

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since i edited it and added its bugging

kindred cargo
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yml #1 error: Spacing

urban sphinx
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damn

queen adder
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Yeah, gotta use a good YAML editor to make sure it's formatted correctly.

kindred cargo
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MVP is off

urban sphinx
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i copy pasted and tried but its def nessed up

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messed up

kindred cargo
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It's missing a space.

urban sphinx
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i see it

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wasnt the problem still is disabled

kindred cargo
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ALSO VERY IMPORTANT

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Permissions work like this:

Rando Plugin says "Do I have permission to do this?"
Permissions plugin starts at top of list and goes down. Once it's satisfies, it says YES, NOT LOOKING ANY FURTHER.

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All of your ranks satisfy "member" when checked.

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And no further searching is done.

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That's why you list them in reverse order, highest on top.

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So when lowly scrub is asked what rank he gets, the plugin says admin? No, keep searching... Mod? no, keep searching... all the way down to Member. YES

queen adder
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Order matters.

kindred cargo
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An admin upon getting rank value would return admin immediately, stop search.

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a Mod would skip admin, because it's not true, resolve moderator as true, then stop searching.

urban sphinx
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so owner on top and put the rest below that?

kindred cargo
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owner on top, then the rank just under owner, beneath that, then the rank under that...

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This is especially important when denying permissions. If default has "-minecraft:commands" as a permission, and you're checking to see if an owner can use /kill, -minecraft:commands" would be satisfied first, and the owner is locked out, even if the owner rank had "minecraft:*"

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It being lower in the list isn't even searched for at that point.

urban sphinx
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okay

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i think i fixed it im restarting if not idk

kindred cargo
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Spaces only

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Not tabs

queen adder
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Editor that shows the whitespace is ideal.

kindred cargo
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vscode or notepad++

urban sphinx
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i fixed it

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thank you for the space comment tried notepadd++ but i gotta change it to black but just found one online for yaml

queen adder
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I think you have to add a YAML plugin for Notepad++ to format them correctly.

urban sphinx
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i got a plugin to allow higher enchants but i make the kit and use the kit and it goes right down to prot 5

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how to fix?

queen adder
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It would help to know what the plugin is.

urban sphinx
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Enchantplus

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and essentials

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that was one nice part of cmi it was right in config to adjust to what level you wanted max to be

queen adder
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So go back to CMI now that you have the permission ranks fixed?

urban sphinx
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cmi was the problem

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i installed essentials and it worked immediately

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installed cmi

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seems to be working

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but now i set myself to member then back to owner and it didnt go back

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why does it do that?

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essentials would let me go from rank to rank and not bug

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nvm wrong command

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pex user preliked set group owner is wrong

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pex group owner user add preliked

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is right

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Now I gotta go through and change perms to cmi not essentials but make sure I keep a copy of essentials just in case

queen adder
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Granting permissions for commands that don't exist doesn't do anything.

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You can leave both in place.

urban sphinx
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Yea but I can just download a separate file I don’t like having sloppy code like that with mixed perms bothers me when I go to find something to change it

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Plus it was mainly the first like 3 roles that had all the perms needed

urban sphinx
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But once I get the perms done I can work on kits done with enchants and everything then setup the factions side of it and eco then start promoting

urban sphinx
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@kindred cargo what anti cheat works with cmi?

kindred cargo
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Good Staff.

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I've never used Anti-cheat plugins other than Coreprotect and Watson.

urban sphinx
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yikes

craggy dove
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HackedServer was a neat one.

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It tries to identify what kind of client a user is connecting with and notifies staff

kindred cargo
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Yeah, Hacked server was less an anti-chet, and more to tell me what local mods people were using.

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For anti-cheat purposes, I guess...

urban sphinx
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im looking for a straight up anti cheat, kicks people for auto clicker attempting to afk grind etc

kindred cargo
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Those often kick people not cheating too... lots of false positives, which is why I never use them

urban sphinx
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i dont want it to ban just kick or at least send a message to say a staff chat that "big hoss" seems like hes using auto clicker or reach or kill aura type shi

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i dont want one that like manages the whole server and sends kicks bans temp bans mutes etc just somthing that doesnt make it so the only way to find a hacker is someone recording and posting it

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like i get kicked from a server when i use auto clicker over 8 clicks a second but it comes with my mouse i just have to enable it but itll still kick me cause it thinks im cheating

kindred cargo
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Yeah, I'm not good with those. Me or my staff were always on patrol.

urban sphinx
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ill still have staff online just want to make it a little easier to notice someone cheating even if its a false id rather false kick someone then let a hacker just rampage through

kindred cargo
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Buit as a player, I'm having fun and then I get a kick msg for suspected cheating. My reaction? "F this server, I'll play another."

urban sphinx
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but most the time ur not getting false kicked idk when i played siege id get accused for cheating and it would just boost my ego

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but that is another game

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not tryna advertise or anything cause the server aint ready but heres the ip if you wanted to take a look delete the msg if its not allowed ❤️

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i figured sorry homie

kindred cargo
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The only thing a hacker can do to your server is advance himself, levels, economy, etc, and that's easy to find. Someone that lavas everything? Coreprotect rolls it back, and you ban the guy. Grief spawn? rollback and ban.

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mines 1000 diamonds in 3 hours? rollback and ban.

urban sphinx
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and even then he shouldnt be able to advance himself with the perms set in place right? or is there cheats that go around that?

kindred cargo
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I mean like he makes himself invulnerable, gets a kill aura, and sits idle in the nether to gain XP from all the mobs throwing themselves at him, or the like...

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Easy to find.

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with CMI you can patrol, jumping from player to player in spectator mode to see what they're doing. Flying? Ban. Killing mobs with a sword from 20 feet away? Ban.

urban sphinx
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true but that also makes it so staff cant enjoy playing the server, thats what i enjoyed back in the day when i was staff on servers was i was still able to actually play the server then when something happened it would send an alert to only staff to deal with it

kindred cargo
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Staff can play, just take some time to check other players. Play/build, whatever for 45 mins, and take 5-10 mins to check the server, and get hback to what you're doing.

urban sphinx
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true

urban sphinx
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Hoss what plugin or config do you use to have tags, like yea there’s the group ranks for the staff and other ranks but more of like /tag having 20 tags prefix or suffix to choose from or would I just have to make suffix’s and make the command and have it send 2 separate commands as console having it remove the group then add the group they clicked on

kindred cargo
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I used to use DeluxeTags

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It used a placeholder so it would fit in with prefix and suffix too, so you had three on the chat line.

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I assigned all my tags to various monster killing feats. You could have "Bonebreaker" for killing x amounts of Skeletons, "Redeader" for killing zombies... etc

urban sphinx
kindred cargo
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Yep. But does it work with 1.21? That's the question.

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It worked with 1.19. I don't know further than that.

urban sphinx
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I’m using 1.12.2