Running latest version, no mods. Playtime 1d+. Asked to be boarded while docked at KLEG by a security vessel that is not even in sight. Ignoring it causes fine and warrant. Save attached. Strangely, save version shows 0.15.0.3 while game runs as 0.15.0.4 (intended?)
Does not make any sense to undock and wait if they can just come over? On top of that, that security ship (O-UQ3Z) is not even around - using "cheat menu" to quick dock to that ship to find where it is on the map is not working - that is, I just dock with empty space.
P.S. I know that reporting two issues in one ticket is a poor taste, but it is rather an anecdote than bug report related/linked to same issue area - asked to be boarded by a security ship previously, undocked, contacted the ship with "come over here" after undocked; Ship flew over, stood for a bit, and then flew away without docking/boarding. Weird flex but ok.
#[Verified] 0.15.0.4 "Undock and prepare for boarding while docked at KLEG"
delicate fox
snow wedge
The save version simply indicates which version you were on when the character was first created.
And yeah, I've had similar experiences, as have some others here. Cops will demand to board you when they're nowhere near.
Thanks!
[Verified] 0.15.0.4 "Undock and prepare for boarding while docked at KLEG"
snow wedge
In case it helps: It just happened to me again. My ship is in top center. Cop who hailed me is 500KM away. Failure to dock + instant warrant
delicate fox
Hi, thanks for confirming.
I actually think that I found a temp workaround until root cause is resolved. So far, I felt the issue came from cop wanting to inspect you while he himself is boarding some other ship. Given he is boarding, I could not teleport and dock with him. And it seemed that given he is occupied with boarding, he could not move in to board me. Thus, "I can't board you, so I fine you".
In order to kill this deadlock, I comm the cop to "come over". This apparently "resets" cop desire to board you. The only issue remans then is to dodge him, as cops drive like reckless maniacs, and bump into you without any care in the world. After cooldown of "following you after being summoned to your location" ends, this whole issue is over. Well, until next cop wants to board you again xD
dim dock
I also had the issue that a space cop was telling me to undock to be boarded. While it looked like they were docked to a derelict or something, which also caused me to get a fine. It was on 0.15.0.4 I undocked and waited, and eventually I got fined. I have a save after it happend if that is needed. I also saw another patrol vessel also docked at what looked derelict for a while, not sure if they are getting stuck or something.
opaque palm
I've had this happen while docked at KLEG. 0.15.0.4
snow wedge
It hit me again today
opaque palm
Police ship 12,000km away sent me the undock and prepare to be borded message. I have 2 docking ports on my ship.
shut lake
noted this one in our system! ty for the report
devout dawn
This is happen to me to
and i can't find that security vessel to
snow wedge
The weirdest part is that sometimes, I'll get the warrant AND a no-undocking penalty (15K and 5K, respectively), despite never having received an undock demand in the first place.
dim dock
This is happen to me to
and i can't find that security vessel to
Did you try to message it back? You should have gotten a nav message right, and that included the ID of the ship, which prob gives you a way to find it. (not that the damage has not been done already).
devout dawn
I managed to repeat it 3 times while still docked at K-LEG, but when I repeated it with the undocking condition the message did not come and no security ship came.
and the wierd part is
it never happen when i spent a lot of time docking in salvaging ship
errant tundra
Was scrapping while moored, had a good license, they attached to the derelict and when they left my ship was gone.
devout dawn
oh this is new,
i become wanted man when i sleep and use SSF because of this. 😂
in K-Leg
cold citrus
The police have lost their minds, they have figured out that they don't actually have to do any proper work and can just issue false fines remotely once it starts happening in your game it keeps happening over and over. Getting told to pull over by ships that are thousands of km away while i'm docked at station with an active license. Completely game breaking if you cannot afford to pay 20000 in fines every time you come back to OKLG.
cold citrus
Prepare to not be boarded 😄
devout dawn
Prepare to pay fines in instalment 😆
cold citrus
Was this one fixed in the patch?
snow wedge
I asked them. They're still working on it.
shy cipher
It even hit my at this moment. xD got the message to be boarded. the cop was even not that far away but he was docked at an derelict and... he dont even make a little move to come over. ._. my battery's are low i dont know if i should wait any longer or fly away to resupply.
i will prepare mentaly for a fine.
snow wedge
You can add the $ back to your account with this console command:
addcond StatUSD x
Where x is the amount to add. Numbers only, No currency symbol nor commas.
It might take a while for the $ to show up on your cash buttom, but it's there
shy cipher
You can add the $ back to your account with this console command:
`addcond StatU...
hm... i think its not necessary? xD odly after now ~4h of flying i still dont got fined?🤔
snow wedge
You may have a warrant once you return to the station. Your transponder module will indicate this if it's installed and turned on
That's when the 15K fine comes
shy cipher
hm... thats strange i think. as i wrote the message above i was already docked. now i undockt and shortly after docked again and still nothing. no fine, no message, no indication on transponder? xD i think there is no mechanik like, that the police "forget" it sometimes to put a fine on the player that would explain that?
snow wedge
Dunno. The fact that they're trying to get us from East Jesus is weird enough as it is.
I have been getting the warrant/fine notice when I return to KLEG on this version. I don't keep the TP module installed
cold citrus
What i don't understand is how do the police know who you are if you have your transponder turned off and they never actually make contact with you
It's kind of immersion breaking
I would assume that if my transponder is turned off they don't even know what the ship is let alone who is on it
opaque palm
That gives me an idea
A 'poster' with the ship's ID code/name, to be put on the outside of the ship. So optical sensors would be able to identify a ship. No poster, optical sensors can't ID a ship.
snow wedge
You can hail derelicts that have no functional transponder/antenna, and get their ship info (including ownership) that way, even if they do not respond. Perhaps the cops have a database - after all, every ship in the boneyard was owned by them (Ayotimiwa) at some point anyway.
opaque palm
Yeah, but ships should have their name and ID code markings on their hull.
Well, ships that should have an actual name. Thinking about it, work barges and tugs owned by Ayatoima should just have their IDs.
cold citrus
Well if that's the case then the transponder doesn't really make sense and i mean it's pointless in a logical sense and that still doesnt explain how the cops automagically know who is actually on the ship
For the purposes of issuing an arrest warrant or a fine directly without any conclusive evidence that the person has commit the crime and furthermore considering that you cannot even appeal the conviction through any negotiations you are just considered guilty
opaque palm
I think it's a ballance issue. Along as a bug.
As it is, EM sensors detect active ships but the range of EM sensors is limited. I think that antennas should act like sensors for the purpose of detecting transponders and have a massive range, like 100,000km for 100% detection of an active transponder. The power draw of an antenna and transponder combo is greater than the power draw of the antennas of the Artemis II after all. So a transponder and antenna would be lighting up visible to all.
And yes, I think that police should be forced to dock (or moor themselves) to ships to do an inspection for fines, and only able to do so if they're very close to the ship in question - to prevent the current bug of 10,000+ km 'prepare to dock'. And give them the ability to check for a valid permit through the radio if it's to harrass, only docking if they have reason to suspect the ship is involved in a crime or if the person on the radio (typically the player) can't produce a valid permit.
errant tundra
the amount of times I've been boarded and asked "do you know why I [pulled you over]" only to hand them the valid license on my person at the time is maddening
what even is the point of the transponder having a "LICENSED" flag
snow wedge
The answer to their question is 'No.' The cops will absolutely board you just to mess with you or shake you down for a BS fee.
clear goblet
I thought the correct answer was to sprint to the switches in the back of their ship and turn off their batteries
errant tundra
The answer to their question is 'No.' The cops will absolutely board you just to...
I get it kinda, but heck even the worst cop IRL will bust out your tail light to cover themselves with their higher ups. These dinguses scan my ship with an active transponder telling them that the electronically connected cryptographically secure (as I haven’t seen counterfeits) license is valid and they have the nerve to demand boarding and threaten me for salvaging without a license and immediately fold the second that I take it out of my pocket!
How much in RCS fuel, atmo, and power does that little cunning stunt cost them? Every single time????
opaque palm
I think that police ships should only do the 'prepare for boarding' thing if they're within 50-100km of the ship they want to board. Also limiting themselves to 100m/s speed relative speed difference when within 10km, and 200m/s speed when just 'patrolling'. Them going 1000m/s relative is what causes them to run out of fuel when doing course corrections and fly off into the nothingness.
opaque palm
Not docked, just freefloating
Also no idea where the police ship is, not in range of sensors.
Also my ship has two docking ports
cold citrus
Good efficient ship design my next ship will be a square
snow wedge
Love the Box.
Feed the Box.
The Box must grow.
The Box must FEED!
dim dock
Also, bonus points, metal boxes make Firaeveus Carron mad.
snow verge
same issue it is extremely infuriating X_X
dim dock
Just using console commands to give yourself back the money should work right, apart from that, this is the risk of running on unstable builds.
bitter hatch
Having the same issue. Glad it is not just me but annoying bug.
opaque palm
There's no console command to fix the issue if the cop is 60,000+km away and is continually tracking your ship. Prevents you from fast forwarding time.
desert flame
That's the side-effect that I'm running into.
On the plus side, Maintenance is getting a lot of work done on KLEG while I'm docked to sleep.
snow wedge
side note - A user found a cop ship that had been pestering them from extreme range; the cop was on the ship, dead. The NASS ship was already docked to another vessel.
#🚀-general message
desert flame
I haven't run into any dead cops yet. But the ones that I did chase down with my torch both had full batteries (assuming that's NOT simulated) but had ZERO remass. Stealthily adding cans to their Miuras did not seem to do anything to whether or not they wanted to return to KLEG.
snow wedge
AFAIK, NPC fuel usage was handwaved in 0.14 - I do not know if this has changed in 0.15
That does feel odd, though; a NASS pirate came for me recently, and all of their N2 tanks were full to the brim.
shut lake
Foxes for this weren't merged into 0.15.0.12, sorry gang
errant tundra
shut lake
*fixes 🤦
desert flame
No fixes OR foxes?!
Is there anything we can do in the mean time through the debug console to clear the No SFFWD issue in the short term?
opaque palm
Yeah, noticed it wasn't fixed. But yeah. I've been checking out ships with active EM signatures, multiple dead police docked with derlicts. All died of asphexiation but their EVA suits were powered and had o2. So don't know what they died of.
west geode
Yeah, noticed it wasn't fixed. But yeah. I've been checking out ships with activ...
well as noone else better has answered yet, the only way i know is if you have someone tracking you. You'll need to edit your saves zip file and find the ship name thats tracking you file and zap the line that says "strScanTargetID : callsign.
Think there is a pin in the general channel. backup your save first
opaque palm
I hope that any update will fix the problem of ships drifting off, ships being able to 'track' other ships far beyond their sensor ranges, tracking continuing for hours/days without resolving in any way, police/npcs dying while piloting their ships for no reason, npcs thrusting at 200-1000m/s resulting in them running out of fuel if they have to do any course correction
errant tundra
Yeah, noticed it wasn't fixed. But yeah. I've been checking out ships with activ...
There seems to be some kind of bug going around that kills anyone on a ship sometimes when docking. I have the suspicion it has something to do with docking to a secondary airlock but it seems really random and strange. I was messing around just using the rescue bolt to zoop to random ships and my character suddenly started exphyxiating while inside a powered up and oxygen-full EVA suit.