#Ship can't hold atmosphere seemingly for no reason and zones are borked

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mild fox
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20~ hours, 0.14.5.20
Hey there. Have been troubleshooting for a couple of hours trying to get my ship to hold atmosphere/temperature (all walls and floors installed, nothing missing or damaged as far as I can make out) - went back to KLEG to sell some stuff.

Was confused when I went to the black market trader as there wasn't much in the Sell list - when I went back, my barter zone had gone weird. Seemingly using transit causes it.

I received these errors when I launched the game just now to get the screenshots;

<color=red><b>[Error]</b></color>: ERROR: Ship M-X7F1 has 2 rooms with ID 3efba89f-d5a3-450f-b9c7-7f446c5fc930
<color=red><b>[Error]</b></color>: ERROR: Ship M-X7F1 has 3 rooms with ID 3efba89f-d5a3-450f-b9c7-7f446c5fc930
<color=red><b>[Error]</b></color>: ERROR: Ship M-X7F1 has 4 rooms with ID 3efba89f-d5a3-450f-b9c7-7f446c5fc930
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Removing ghost room: 12424c1d-809c-45e6-b170-ccf9915892cc
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Removing ghost room: a57de3f6-33a9-48ca-b9d2-a99e432fefc3
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Removing ghost room: d94777b1-0a1c-475f-bb64-42658c77ad5b
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Removing ghost room: c9da8f23-90be-4f9e-8111-db4dece5734e

Edit I just noticed on the screenshots (specifically the first one) that it seems not to be registering walls everywhere they exist?

rustic pivot
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You have broken rooms, did a bunch of stuff get stacked up on your floor? If so unstack it, this is one of the issues stacking causes. After that try uninstalling one of your walls and reinstalling it, this should force the game to recalculate the rooms

mild fox
rustic pivot
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Sometimes haul orders will stack multiple objects on the same tile

mild fox
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Ah copy that - maybe when I was refitting, but at the moment there's nothing.

lyric dagger
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Players can no longer do that (it causes a ton of weird issues, your own included), but NPCs and the Haul command can still do it every so often. More info: #🚀-general message

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If anything, anywhere in the game has been stacked, it makes the engine go all floobidy-woopidy (technical term). I.e., anywhere you're ever visited.

mild fox
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Ooft. So could be on any derelict, somewhere on KLEG, etc? I haven't used any crew as yet

lyric dagger
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Yeah. What Nergal said about removing and replacing a wall usually works, though.

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Just keep an eye out for stacked stuff. Only way to really do that is to mouseover tiles, including walls

mild fox
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Alrighty I'll have a look. Thank you!

lyric dagger
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no prob

mild fox
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Sorry, so to be clear - if I undock from KLEG and sweep my ship for stacked parts, then uninstall and reinstall a wall, that should fix stuff up across the board?

Are the debug errors about ghost rooms related to the stacked parts, then?

lyric dagger
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Basically, the game was never meant to allow items to be stacked "illegally," so illegally-stacked items confuse it, leading to stuff like the ghost rooms and losing airtightness on rooms that are actually airtight.

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AFAIK, having something illegally-stacked anywhere could potentially cause these issues anywhere in the game. I cannot say for sure; this is what I've gleaned from seeing the issues crop up. Ever since the devs made it so we cannot stack things anymore, the incidence level has dropped drastically.

mild fox
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Damn, I just had to be the special one then. Thank you!

mild fox
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I've reloaded a couple saves back and have managed to replicate it - it happened when uninstalling the rest of the ship and hauling it inside to a barter zone. After moving to Mescaform and back again, I got this debug and my zone was borked;

<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Could not find space for item ItmScrapTrash from Interaction DropItemStackAllow
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Could not find space for item ItmScrapTrash from Interaction DropItemStackAllow
<color=red><b>[Error]</b></color>: ERROR: Ship M-X7F1 has 2 rooms with ID feba56c8-3b01-4b40-b9f5-4d5f27c39123
<color=red><b>[Error]</b></color>: ERROR: Ship M-X7F1 has 3 rooms with ID feba56c8-3b01-4b40-b9f5-4d5f27c39123
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Removing ghost room: 70f4b849-1b38-46a6-9f03-fb738a7ade72
<color=yellow><b>[Warning]</b></color>: Removing ghost room: 007bdea9-2a0f-47eb-974f-e236dea301ad

So possibly players still can cause it?

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Alright confirm, there's something in the batch of uninstalled/scrap parts that I'm hauling in that causes it 🤔

lyric dagger
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Yeah, the Haul command can sometimes result in items being stacked whether it's the PC or a crewmate executing the order.