Please Add Option to Change Body Profile

[tepid thistle]

This is a personal working mod I started playing with last night, although it's not to my liking, since Ostranauts seems to make changing character identity either extremely difficult or impossible, making only one view possible.

This has also been one of my pet peevs since first playing Ostra, is that every character looks like a flat-chested boy, yet given the title of female. Sometimes I really dislike looking at it. Sooooo, in the scheme of things, I forcibly created one that reflects me, as a real women.

It would be nice if modding, of characters, specifically, was made more accessible to help promote real open source modding? Thank you in advance. 😇

She's not perfect. But who is? Vanilla clothes look really awkward, so of course, she will be given her own set of clothes to wear.

[rare rock]

It clashes badly with the existing art and looks more like something from the sims. The existing basemesh and texture looks the way it does to save devtime while fitting with either male or female faces.

[tepid thistle]

That I do know, and it should be understood that this was also created in only a few hours as just an example. The purpose is to exaggerate the difference between male and female, not showcase replacements for existing in-game artwork. See, you've already missed the entire point. 😩

[abstract orchid]

Sent ya a DM, neo. 😉

[tepid thistle]

Ok. I don't usually accept them, but will from you 😇

[tepid thistle]

On another note, I always think about the developers original designs and would like to stay true to it in every way.

But since I'm new at pixel art, I'm not used to the way how things should look. So I played around yesterday with the existing "basemesh," and was able to create something from on the original artwork in about 30 steps or so. Starting with the most basic alteration, using of the sphere accentuated the chest. About 1 minute.

It was used twice, and the frame was exaggerated a bit, but only to show the difference.

I then used trimmed down the overall size to make the body more feminine.

And it resulted in a better body, somewhat, but also made the hands too thin.

Also, decided to tapper the waste a bit.

And afterwards, trimmed the inner thigh area a little, since the legs are a bit too thick.

Then adjusted the pelvic area.

Didn't feel like the waste area was pronounced enough, since the body still looked a little too girthy, so it was given a tiny pinch to tapper it a bit more.

Slight adjustment to the overall tone.

Made a few more adjustments, but overall, I can't see the reason why, even while using the "basemesh", as Link said, would be a problem. In this example, the character stays with the existing look and feel, without much insult to anyone.

[abstract orchid]

Please Add Option to Change Body Profile

There ya go ^_^

[remote elk]

When we said send nudes, this is not what we meant 😄

I'm half for this, but on the other hand simply getting rid of the pronouns that suggest gender and having every character to be a nothing much androgonous noodle person seems more in keeping with the game.

But if the game insists on genders, then the paperdoll should be gendered too.

[tepid thistle]

The gender pronouns can stay, and I'm not against that. So I apologize if my post came across as trying to promote some kind of agenda.

Especially, since I'm not used to forum or online chatting, so maybe my personal frustration came across a little too strongly.

But yes, I'm really for adding the selection of body profiles to match the pronouns, not just one way, take it or leave it without any choice what so ever.

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[remote elk]

I'm with you. But if it's too much dev effort (as clothes etc will have to change when they have to add the big titty goth girl paperdoll) then removing all references is also acceptable to me. They do have to choose though.

[tepid thistle]

True, and this is probably why I will just work on it personally, as an addition. Since, even if all the changes were made for they developers, they would most likely not care to make it official.

But that's ok too, and why it's only a suggestion. Because they have the last choice.

[frigid quail]

Yeah, but what if i really want big titty goth girl on my barely liveable piece of space junk held together by a piece of tape?

[tepid thistle]

LOL. Then she will be added as a mod. 😇

[quiet badge]

being honest, i couldnt care less, but being objective i think these should not be in the game
U got pirates who want to mug ya, Hivequeens (Also know as Dockmaster) who want ya to work untill yer dead, Cops who take every oportunity to make an arrest
My point is: nobody cares if u are X or Y, u get the same treatment anyways
(I am neutral towards this tough since i can ignore it all game)

That said, i agree to a tad bit more customization to the character, nothing over the top but a small help towards the parts that need a bit more love

[fast pumice]

i have this gripe as well. i like your mod. ^-^

[tepid thistle]

Thank you for having the courage to reply, and for expressing an honest opinion. They're always welcome here, even though some might not agree. But I believe that everyone should be honest, which is a bit different than telling the truth versus a lie.

But not to go into it too much, that is precisely the point, that people should be honest with themselves and others. More simply said, it is only wished that the developers would respect peoples' general values, not subjective perspectives. And this the developers have not done.

Enough people do care, but are afraid to say so because of the personal attacks they might face, which is causing more and more people to stay silent. Taking an hour or so to make these subtle changes, as I have done as an unprofessional, I believe, should not cause an uproar, or cause Ostranauts to come to a grinding halt. Nor should it face the kind of scrutiny that it does. Why should it be a big deal that actual, or real women should be made more apparent? This has nothing to do with pronouns, but inclusiveness. For now, only one side has been taken, which I believe shows extreme bias.

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[fast pumice]

agreed. Fully agreed.

is the paperdoll one face and hair only or did you make custom face assets as well

[tepid thistle]

Everything I make is custom made. I try to rely on my own assets rather than the games', so that there will be less conflict. Hopefully. 😇

[fast pumice]

i would be intrested if you ever decide to post your mod 😄

i too am tired of looking like Captain Androgynous 😛

[tepid thistle]

@fierce flame I see that you are always downvoting everything, but are always afraid to comment. Again, all opinions are welcome regardless. But as a paid content creator as you are, it would be nice to hear your opinion versus your silent negativity.

[tepid thistle]

I hope so, even if only 10 people enjoy it. That is 10 happy people, the way I look at it. 😇

[fierce flame]

I don't have a problem with your idea. I'm pissed about your origional approach to it (a very biggoted title and comment at the beginning about adam and eve not adam and steve) I chose to silently protest your biggotted origional post because of how it was approached, not because the idea itself. But i didn't want to start a fight here, but since your going to call me out and not let me protest in silence. I'm going to say it, your a homophob and a biggot. end of discussion. so EFF you.

That is why you had to change the title of your post and the body of it, not because we didn't like your idea. you were an asshole about how you posted it the first time. When the title changed, i removed my down vote, and was going to leave it at that, but you seem to want to start some shit.

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[dull silo]

you think staff look at Suggestions? 🤣

But seriously, if you want it, mod it- they have their hands full with bugfixing and stability; to my knowledge, not one suggestion’s been implemented.

I would also recommend not posting a long reply to him… either of you; it won’t help either person- but it’s your choice

[tepid thistle]

Well, it appears that you have a problem in general. But I'll just say, there's also nothing wrong with citing Adam & Eve, and there again, lies the problem, where even religious references seem to bother you and others. So that says quite allot. And it seems like people now live in a society where even mentioning anything with religious context, or even gender, is all of a sudden a crime. Quite sad. Well, overall, thankyou for your opinion.

And I would like to say that I had no idea about the AE reference until someone shared with me what it apparently means to some people. That was the only reason I changed the title. Not because it was wrong, but out of respect for other people's sensitivity, which should be a 2-way street at least. But obviously, these days it's not. It's either believe the sun is purple, or face alarming responses like your own. Truly, I hope you seek some professional help for your anger. 😇

[fierce flame]

Im done with this argument. The thing about arguing with idiots is no one standing around can tell who the idiot really is. Im out. Keep my name out of your messages. @tepid thistle

[tepid thistle]

Unfortunately my replies are sometimes long, but only because I don't spend much time online, and have only done so since I've been off from freelance work, so I've been enjoying my time gaming. Otherwise, speaking naturally in the normal world as I always do, can be said much faster.

@fierce flame

@fierce flame

[dull silo]

dude

just because you can doesn’t mean you have to

[tepid thistle]

I know. It's petty but was fun. 😇

Besides, this isn't an argument.

[frank arch]

The issue of the game's androgynous characters and neutral language leading to people feeling as though their characters are being misgenedered is one we've been discussing lately.

The post that started all this off has been altered so I'm lacking some context right now. I'm way outside of my normal working hours, but I'd ask for people to take a step back from that particular part of the discussion until we've gone over things with Eric on Monday. Please try and keep things civil, everyone.

[silver igloo]

Can I get some context pls?

[dull silo]

Wow! The first developer post in the Suggestions forum... ever!

(Less... sarcastically and hopefully more-productively, I wonder if part of the "misgendered" bit comes from how everyone in the game who a player interacts with for more than a few minutes turns into a Lover- perhaps renaming Lover to Best Friend or similar might be a simple fix, at least outside chargen?)

[silver igloo]

Neo, don't actively try to antagonize people for fucks sake.

[tepid thistle]

Not trying to. But xzy has his own way of antagonizing people with his words and actions, which are very unprofessional. Yet as usual, no one has chastised his behavior, only my own for simply suggesting a character change. So, seriously? This is why I spend very little to no time online or in forums. It is truly a whole other world and level of thinking I can never get used to.

Regardless, content creators are supposed to proactively bring more attention to products, not seek out an attack women or any other supporters for expressing their own views.

If I were a "responsible" developer, I would part ways with anyone of that nature, because accepting someone with that type of extreme anger says allot about the developers own personal character, and also the people who frequent this forum, while in the end, is not a good outlook for the moderators, developers or Ostranauts as a whole.

So can I please get back to playing around with modding? 😇 You guys are taking the fun out of it. I'll update when I have something creative to say, which was already leading in that direction until.

[silver igloo]

This has been brought up the chain of command and will be dealt with once every one of us had a chance to throw in their five cents in the staff chat.