#Late fees when all debt paid.

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thorn stump
obsidian ibex
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How much are the late fees? trying to look at the images XD

merry heath
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hi and thx for the bug report, do you have a save file from before this happened or could you share more details with us in regards to what type of fees you got?

dense sigil
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Ive encountered this after i did a prepay on the mortgage. for some reason, there is a fee/fine much earlier in the records that needs to be paid. scroll through the past records looking for a pay button to appear. paying that solved the issue for me. not sure whats causing it though

bitter fiber
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Definitely happening on beta branch as of today while doing prepayment

ionic nacelle
bitter fiber
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Only after you are slapped with missed then it's available

hasty abyss
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I caught a few times where I got that issue

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I think its not there, go back and forth a second time

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missed feee

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you know what there is a fix for that , see you in feedback

ionic nacelle
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This seems to be a bug with the notices only as when I recreated the steps (paid a portion of my mortgage), when the shift ended I was given the late payment notice, however no actual late fee was applied.

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tender surge
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I used prepaying to pay for my CSI early, and then as I paid for it in full I was hit with late fees the moment untime ended.

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sterile linden
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Thanks for the heads-up, and possible repro steps!

I've logged a bug ID #4856 to try and reproduce this via using mortgage prepay, possibly in combination with untime.

white wadi
sterile linden
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Ah ha! I think I've found the bug here (or at least one of them).

Looks like when you prepay the mortgage, it removes both the mortgage and current line item from the ledger, reduces the principal by the prepayment amount, then re-adds the mortgage again at the original inception date.

So if you ever use prepay after the first shift, it'll disappear from the current screen and appear on a previous shift's page.

So it'll look like you have no fees to pay, when in fact, you do but it is hidden in past pages.

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Should be a pretty easy change to make the new mortgage start on the current date, which will look like the current line item just changes amounts to a lower rate.
(Basically, like you just paid down the principal and refinanced.)

runic schooner
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There is also a related problem with super-fast forward and docking fees. If you super fast forward through shift change it does some wonky stuff with docking fees and mortgage being set up on previous shift, and then when super fast forward ends putting another set of fees on the new shift.

This is all reasonable, except that it isn't obvious that you need to go back pay it off. So either an indicator of bills on previous ledger pages or having a "Pay All Current Bills" button would be nice.

sleek halo
sterile linden
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Yeah, I've just been going though this bug, and there are a few pieces to the puzzle. But a big part of it is that recurring fees can sometimes end up being logged in previous shifts, so they are missed. And I'm going to change things so any fee the game creates appears in the current shift where you can see it immediately.

A second issue is that some previous/next arrow clicks were skipping a shift (usually when it spans Untime), and that could cause fees to be easily missed.

Finally, the hourly rates were not being correctly charged during super FFWD.

I think we'll have fixes for most or all of these next patch!

molten patrol
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I'm still running into this on the latest patch, should this be fixed already?

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It keeps warning me at shift ends about payments, but nothing is selectable, I even paused the second before shift change and had nothing to pay

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had to page back 4 shifts to find the payment to pay it

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i'd try to figure out how to refund the late fees with a debug command, but I feel like "eroneous bank fees due to computer glitch" is totally a thing that happens IRL so I might as well say goodbye to my 13k$ late fees 🙂

versed juniper
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Yeah, I still get the "late fees only show up on the original shift" thing too. Current version. #🚀-general message

sterile linden
sudden spruce
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On my current 0.14 save I never pre-paid the mortgage, but did sell my original Passenger Transport Dream. The sell price was applied to mortgage, and the bug started showing up for me there too.

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Honestly I never reported this as a bug as I thought it was the bank was just being sketch lol

umbral storm
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Just for travel to venus and back more then -200k by docking with oklg

molten patrol
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I attached the save for this game in some other bug threads, but I think it was after I fixed this one - I could dig through the saves to find out what it was if it's helpful

calm briar
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however, on next shift, no late payment penalty was added

versed juniper
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The late fees will only appear on the shift in which the original (late) payment was incurred. Page back for a while and see.

calm briar
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I saw late payments on the "current" shift since last update

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or .8

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i think .8

thick sundial
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i get late payments warning (but no actual payments to be made) every shift. iirc i paid off my mortgage in full a long time ago, currently no debt or anything going on. my save for debugging is here -> #1327830580422901833 message