pokemon-winds-waves

[snow glade]

I may or may not have the ||exact location of the ceo of gamefreak just incase something we don’t like happens||

[white jungle]

I just

I just want the direct to have BOTW guys

Just a fucking crumb man

SOMETHING TO CONSUME PLEASE

[snow glade]

pokemon scvi> botw

[snow glade]

consume deez

[opal gull]

seems like a safe bet

[lament glen]

I agree. I think the combination of handheld and console for a not too expencive price is the perfect sweet spot for a nintendo console. I just want the next console to be similar but stronger and for it to also use the same cartriges, so that you can still play normal switch games on it no problem. That would be Lé epic, as they say in the industry

I find the direct tomorrow to be pretty funny

Many xenoblade fans wont watch it because they've already seen more than enough and dont want to get spoiled and people annoyed with xenoblade and nintendo rpgs in general wont watch it either

The direct obviously still has its audience, but the timing does feel really weird. Like they planned the direct before they decided to release the game in july and just never changed it

[late tendon]

hahaha

welp

[fickle birch]

I think we'll for sure be getting a Switch 2 rather than a more innovative console. Which I see as a good thing, because the Switch has consolidated Nintendo's base; the handheld and home console markets are one and the same now. 🙂

[strong trail]

oh man i'd almost missed that there'd be a direct today

oh it's just xenoblade

welp

[inner swan]

Hmmm i don't tvg

*tbh

I just see a better switch oled being made

They aren't going to to risk another Wii U

[fickle birch]

A Switch 2 isn't another Wii U; the problem with the Wii U was that nobody outside of the gaming sphere knew if it was an add-on or a new console. Calling it the Switch 2 solves that as clear as day. 😄

And to be honest, Microsoft has eased people into really stupid naming conventions.

[lament glen]

[lament glen]

Yeah, fully agree

But I think power wise it has to be a bigger step than ds to 3ds was to be really successfull

[fickle birch]

Oh for sure, the Switch is already behind right now. There were rumours about the Switch 2 being a decent step up from the original console when leaks about certain Nvidia parts being considered was brought to light. 🙂

Not that Pokémon games will ever take advantage of the boost in technology.

[wild lodge]

Hehe funny grass pngs 😀

[inner swan]

Hmm

I'm 100% sure that the new pokemon will do 100x better

If they just grab stuff from Legends into this I'm sure they will

But judging by the fact that sword and shield was made by a multi billion dollar company and still turned out to be a pretty bad game with little pros (which is number one on the highest grossing media franchise ever) i have mixed hopes

[fickle birch]

Legends also didn't really look good, visually I mean. 😦

[lament glen]

And idk if the sales of Legends were really high enough to send a message to the main games

[fickle birch]

The weird outline around you whenever you were in a cave was bad, and the texturing - whilst better than SwSh - was fine. Nothing above average, just fine. 😅

[fickle birch]

By May, Legends had sold 2 million copies under Let's Go and BDSP. I imagine it would have sold more if BDSP didn't come out literally 2 months before it as well. 😂

[inner swan]

Hm

At this point it's not the visuals that matter

Even disregarding the visuals of swsh the gameplay and progression was straight ass and the story was so boring

[flint sequoia]

It's not anything that matters, gamfreak could make a pokemon game without pokemon and it would sell millions

[inner swan]

yeah that's what most games suffer these days

wealthy game companies know it'll sell so there's no bother in trying

[icy forge]

Even if have my most hated starter I enjoyed SWSH. I like the human characters and how give, for first time, importance to gyms. Even Dexit is not a big deal for me. But I dont like at all the idea of Paid DLC

[inner swan]

Hm i enjoyed SWSH just not as much at all as other pokemon games

I had to pay for dlc (which i didn't)

Hop was really annoying

The game was really easy for some reason, especially with the exp share thing which iirc cannot be turned off

The gyms, while inventive and we're honestly the best of the game, was still kinda underwhelming with how trash the gym pokemon were

Some of the pokemon evolutions have gotten way too out of hand (like yamask for example)

The best parts of SWSH that I liked a LOT were

• Some aspects of the Wild Area
• Character Customization
• Competitive
• Battle Tower
• The Elite Four(?)

But it's kinda like,, most of the fun is after you beat the game

The final fight was god awful

Post game story with the two dudes was alright I guess?

Wild Areas way on how you find pokemon sucked

Idk there's too many cons outweighing pros

It sucks that the meat and potatoes of swsh is the post game, and even then like 90% of it deals with battling, which i know is not for everyone

Like c'moooooon man there ain't no way you put a gym leader singing WITH NO VOICE ACTING

[strong trail]

the bit of swsh I enjoyed most were the DLC areas tbh

which is kinda sad

[inner swan]

Yeah well

Sucks I have to pay like over 30 bucks to experience that

[strong trail]

and to get some pokemon you otherwise wouldn't have been able to

[inner swan]

Yeah

I really

REALLY

Hope SV doesn't have paid DLC

but it 100% will

[strong trail]

considering how succesful amor isle and the other thing were, absolutely

[inner swan]

Also is nobody gonna talk how shitty the dlc legends were

Like bro that's just a pokemon riding another pokemon 😭

[lament glen]

Payed dlc or a defintive version releasing a year later are both shitty moves, so it dosnt relaly make a difference which one they go for imo

[inner swan]

Man just make the DLC like 10 bucks at least

[lament glen]

was it free or payed?

dont think I ever even tried it

oh, my bad

I read that as the legends arcrus dlc

lol

[inner swan]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

LOOK

WHAT IS THAT

it's literally just a mythical riding a legendary

It's like if i put a meltan on top of a zapdos and called it a new pokemon

[strong trail]

insanely broken mon though so there's that

[inner swan]

LMFAO yeah

I heard it was fucking sweeping when it came to showdown for a bit

[icy forge]

At least the Legend DLC is Free

Oh currydex. I forget

Was funny, better collectionable for me that wisps

[fierce shell]

Calyrex and the horses have wack designs

The horses are just fancy horses

And calyrex is a weirdo who talks constantly

In English

[fickle birch]

Their designs are pretty odd, but also plain. I kinda like that in the sense that simpler looking legendaries are often my favourites (Latios, Lugia, etc.), but they don't look particularly powerful or extraordinary. Glastrier is an Ice-type Rapidash and Spectrier is a Ghost-type Mudsdale. 😅

[inner swan]

Yeah

I'd like to say that i actually like Calyrex

It's a neat design

But I hate the whole digimon fusion thing

Glastreir and Spectrier look more like regular pokemon to me as well

[smoky bison]

That's the big thing. I always say that the graphics are bad. They are bad for being a main line game of the highest-grossing franchise on earth. The graphics don't have to be 8k ULTRA MEGA HD, but they need to work on the art style more to make it fit.

[fickle birch]

Yeah exactly. We're not asking for photorealism, just something like Super Mario 3D World or Kirby and the Forgotten Land; stylised graphics that look like they came from a console after the sixth generation. 🙂

[forest egret]

The models in the SV trailer for the pokemon and stuff are looking nice. The environment in the backgrounds are looking kinda nasty still though. Hoping they fix that up when the final game drops but I'm not counting on it, so to say

SwSh's trailer didn't look too different from the final product, and this game's not far off from being released. The textures on the trees and the ground and stuff still feel kinda off to me. Perhaps it's just me

[thin wolf]

Looks fine to me. Maybe the grass is a little off

[forest egret]

Right. I guess we'll see if it looks better on release

[thin wolf]

The last few months before release seem to be mainly polishing. Maybe because it doesnt fit the pkm artstyle?

[forest egret]

I think it's just the juxtaposition of detailed and clean looking models next to blurry low-res textures

The humans and the pokemon look nice, the Seviper in the first trailer looks cool as hell

[thin wolf]

Yeah

[patent rivet]

That ground really looks bad, and it looks like the tree model was just shoved halfway into the ground since they didn’t even try to give it roots or anything, plus it has no shadow

And it looks like we found a new ghost grass type, it’s the actual grass in the world

[limpid depot]

The grass looks like really big semi transparent triangles that disappear near the player model and camera ksksksks

[smoky bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947500542089891840/989189627900489738/Capture2.PNG
IMAGINE this is what it will look like

[inner swan]

Oh my god those trees looks like a blender render

[smoky bison]

I would cry. Not because I care so much about the franchise but because I know they'll still make 30 million on launch

[inner swan]

The trees actually just looks like a texture on top of a bunch of blender shapes together

that's abhorrent

[fierce shell]

There are zero shadows there

[white jungle]

To be fair I don't think that closest tree is just in the ground, I reckon that's a poorly angled hill

But the fact that that isn't clear also isn't great

[patent rivet]

Nah, it looks flat when watching the trailer

[fierce shell]

It's meant to be a hill

[lament glen]

It looks absoluetly terrible, no matter what

[fierce shell]

The pokeball is the only good part of this image

[inner swan]

It will sell amazingly, no matter what

[lament glen]

It's still crazy to me how Xenoblade and Pokemon run on the same console. They look at least 3 console generations appart

[fierce shell]

Mfw we're being robbed of a much better monster catching game

[inner swan]

This

[fierce shell]

Release yokai watch 4 in the states

Pls

[inner swan]

YES

I'm tired of playing coromon i want to play the new digimon game already smhh

[lapis linden]

Lol

[lament glen]

SMT5 was a pretty good monster catching game too 👀

[lapis linden]

I own that

I should play it

[lament glen]

Yes

You can even compare its story to the story of SwSh then and decide which one is worse. It's honestly a close call

[inner swan]

smh real ogs play monster rancher

[fierce shell]

I have heard of the weird multiple endings from my friend

[lapis linden]

Rune Factory 5 is what i have been playing as of late

[inner swan]

I've been playing Pokemon ROWE and Nexomon as I wait for TemTem news

I heard TemTem got some massive news

Im glad I waited, I've been yearning for it to come on Xbox and it was worth it in the end

[lament glen]

Yeah, all SMT games have those I think

But its not just the endings. The story is just one huge mess of nothing all the way through xD

[inner swan]

I didn't even know SMT was a monster catcher

[lament glen]

Yea, but unlike most monster catchers, you catch satan and jesus in smt

The gameplay of smt5 was really really fun though, I enjoyed it a ton

[lapis linden]

Good to hear some reviews on it I’ll play it once i am done with RF5

[opal gull]

not japanese?

[opal gull]

I'm fine with dlc, not fine with obviously intentionally ommited qol stuff being left for it like making stuff have g max, reseting evs

[patent rivet]

Or how the SwSh DLC was clearly intended to be in the main game but they made it DLC instead since they rushed the game out

[opal gull]

ah yes the complete lack of other legendaries like youd've found in any other previous game

[flint sequoia]

What type would it be?

[late tendon]

Grass dark maybe

Or grass psychic

[dense vortex]

Aww it's so cute

Grass/drunk

[meager oasis]

cool design

[lament glen]

please be real

[late tendon]

Forgot to mention btw, new thing from riddler

||there will be at least 4 new bug type lynes||

[forest egret]

Very nice

[fierce shell]

I really like cherubi and cherrim

I hope it's real

Tho the grass looks too good

It's hardly decent but I expect less from game freak now 😔

[forest egret]

If this is indeed real and they fixed stuff up since the trailer that'd be awesome

[fierce shell]

This is also a SwSh area

You can see the wall in the back

And a miss sale

*mudsdale

[forest egret]

Damn

Maybe someone modded a fake model into their SwSh then

[fierce shell]

Probably

I can't find out where it is tho

Cherrim doesn't appear in the overworld

So they would have to replace another Pokémon with cherrim

[forest egret]

Yeah they probably just found some easily located pokemon and replaced the model

[meager oasis]

sad

I wish it was real

[fierce shell]

There's still hope that the design is real but they made a screenshot just to mess around

[lament glen]

The sad truth is that Cherim will never get love again

[forest egret]

I thought that's what you liked about pokemon, if Cherrim got love and was strong wouldn't you stop liking it

[fierce shell]

Yeah you're right

I would like another charizard form instead

[forest egret]

It's coming alright, any day now

The inevitable charizard law

They'll drop a trailer showing off the gen's gimmick and they'll show Charizard using it

[fierce shell]

Every gym leader and elite four member has a charizard ace

The evil team too

[flint sequoia]

Regional charizard

[versed helm]

I mean if we get an ice type charizard maybe they’ll fix the typing while they’re at it 👀

[flint sequoia]

They'll just give Charizard ice type delta stream and nothing else

[versed helm]

lmao imagine they give him some unique move that is just stupid busted like a 190 100acc move out of giga (hoping that doesn't come back btw, that was an awful mechanic lol)

[icy forge]

https://mobile.twitter.com/pokexperto/status/1541688178935009280

PokéXperto (@pokexperto)

Silueta misteriosa publicada por la cuenta oficial de Pokémon de Japón 🤔

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Twitter · Jun 28, 2022, 7:41 AM

[versed helm]

man, that sure does look like a good post. too bad i can't read 🥲

[icy forge]

Mysterious silhouette publicated by official acount of Pokemon Japan

[versed helm]

ah okay. inb4 it's delta charizard lmao

[lament glen]

It's obviously a Jigglypuff from birdseye view

[icy forge]

I understood that reference

[versed helm]

i, too, am boomer enough to get that reference

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-party-boomer-rave-dancing-partying-speaker-gif-15227523

[spare roost]

As a fan of ||bug ||types this will be a blast

[opal gull]

they already said it was a 1 off when they announced it

[opal gull]

when was this I don't see it anywhere

[late tendon]

It was a new riddle based on some code that he made

||You had to find "bugs" in this code in order to get it to work and have a winning message at the end, and each "bug" was a hint on what is a new bug type line about||

He confirmed that ||there's 4 of these||

[opal gull]

oh that one

[late tendon]

One of them is ||Japanese themed|| like he already confirmed before, and one of others may be ||a scarab|| but that's not confirmed by him directly and just a fans guess based on the riddle

[patent rivet]

But will any of them be good

[late tendon]

Who knows who knows

I usually enjoy ||bug types|| in Pokemon

im so sleepy right now lmao

[fierce shell]

You don't gotta spoiler bug types every time

[late tendon]

I want to cuz I respect those who doesn't like unofficial leaks and I always suggest everyone to do the same

It's not hard and it's respectful to those who comes here to talk about official stuff

[fierce shell]

I under stand censoring leaks, but bugs types doesn't have to be covered

Like the most recent one was a personal thing, and wasn't related to spoilers

[late tendon]

That's a leak, so I prefer to hide it

[opal gull]

the recent one wouldve given insight into what spoilered text was about man

[late tendon]

I can't wait for all the spoilers-containing youtube previews when the game comes out and I don't play it since day one cuz they arrive to me a few days later

[opal gull]

some extensions block vids including certain keywords showing up in your feed

[late tendon]

You mean, the browser extensions?

If so, good to know, thank you

[opal gull]

yeah

[opal gull]

||fuecoco fans what are your hopes for how the boi evos before we get some khu info tomorrow||

[fierce shell]

I already posted final evo up here

[late tendon]

I hope it evolves into a horse zodiac, humanoid prefered

[opal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/horny-bonk-gif-22415732

[fierce shell]

Fire fighting too

[fickle birch]

I like that ||they're not sticking strictly to Spanish-themed Pokémon if this is true. More variety is always nice.|| 😅

[late tendon]

They always have something ||Japanese|| in all the regions

Like ||Kubfu and Urshifu in Galar, Golisopod and Kartana in Alola, etc etc||

[fickle birch]

||Although they sometimes just go wild, like pandas in France.|| 😂

[late tendon]

Yes

Don't see anything bad in this tho

[fickle birch]

Oh I don't see anything bad in it either, I only think of it as a good thing. 🙂

||They've been taking the country they're basing the regions on far too literally since Kalos, wild pandas aside.|| 😅

[forest egret]

Potential Khu leak thing: ||He just posted an image of Sudowoodo followed by a poll asking for what its type would be||

||I don't know if this is a troll about Sudowoodo's actual typing or if it's a hint to anything, but yeah||

[white jungle]

||Protean Sudowoodo maybe. Hopefully NOT grass type, that's a boring idea||

[tawdry flower]

Mmm

[icy forge]

||Regional Sudowoodo I guess||

[fierce shell]

||psuedopoocho||

[smoky bison]

Maybe the "Any" choice is the hint here? Perhaps it will get an ability that lets it change its type

[forest egret]

That'd be cool

||Perhaps, as epoch said, Protean Sudowoodo||

[fickle birch]

||I want a Puppy-type Sudowoodo now. 😛||

[smoky bison]

Oh right, I forgot Protean does that

[fierce shell]

||pseudo woods with color change. They introduce Pokémon fusion into this gen||

[snow glade]

||they already did pokemon fusion||

[flint sequoia]

||that seems like a cool pokemon fan game idea||

[sterile garnet]

What would we call it?

[dull shoal]

||Not so boring if they make it look like a rock ||

[snow glade]

Id go for ||Pokemon Black 2 or Pokemon White 2||

[surreal shell]

||lithops based pokemon||

[opal gull]

||if fuecoco is in fact ghost type and more dino like (only talking of older leakstuff no idea what khu meant today) the typing could relate to term of a ghost lineage in fossil record||

[snow glade]

||so a diñosaur||

[flint sequoia]

||I can't wait for it to be outclassed by Chandelure, Blacephalon and probably even Typhlosion||

[fierce shell]

||Only one of those Pokémon are good||

[meager oasis]

||If it’s a physical attacker then maybe not||

[icy forge]

|| I saw in reddit the “stats” of Fuecoco3 and is physical, bulky and very slow||

||By other hand Quaxly3 stats are almost the same stats than Infernape||

[snow glade]

||yoo regional infernape||

[narrow tide]

so is kho/khu a highly trusted leaker or something?

[flint sequoia]

Can you share the link to this?

[patent rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[opal gull]

||the ghost type thing was by khu, the dinosaur part was just a if||

[white jungle]

Fuecoco's final evo might get some use out of dragon dance, but that's assuming it won't be too slow for it to not be worth it

[opal gull]

theres also flame charge I guess

could be good at heat crash depending, though even mons at max weight will have that drop quite low a decent portion fo the time

i suppose it will have stab shadow sneak

[flint sequoia]

I mean for the stats leak

[late tendon]

He leaked legends arceus, top trainers from the anime and everything we know officially about scarlet/violet so far

[snow glade]

So either knows what he’s doing or super lucky

One is more likely than the other

[late tendon]

u have to be extremely lucky to guess all hisuan forms with all their types

[snow glade]

The chance isnt 0 tho

[patent rivet]

It might as well be

[late tendon]

Well, if infinite ammount of monkeys will slap the keyboard for infinite ammount of time, one of them will eventually replicate Shakespeare's Hamlet

[patent rivet]

One of them will eventually write “in terms of…”

[late tendon]

nooooooo

[fierce shell]

I think the eastern community just knows more and has easier access to this stuff

Like their forums probably have the whole game by now

[late tendon]

eh, who knows

maybe he's a translator or something

Khu's from China afaik

[fierce shell]

Says they're from China

[flint sequoia]

the chance of guessing every mon with a hisuian form and their types is practically 0

1/(898^23 * 17^2)

[smoky bison]

where do you get that ^23 from?

[flint sequoia]

Thats how many hisuan forms there are

[late tendon]

23 forms I assume?

[flint sequoia]

Technically its not that since evolutions share typing and most pokemon keep one of their original types but its just to show how stupidly large the number is

[smoky bison]

Wouldn't that be (1/(898 * 17^2))^23 then?

[flint sequoia]

the 23 needs to be part of the denominator

else it would be easier to guess more pokemon

[smoky bison]

Nope, it still gets harder

[flint sequoia]

I thought it was * I'm blind

[icy forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/viw6ui/starter_evo_japanese_rumors_names_stats_ha/

[flint sequoia]

tyty

[vestal aurora]

Now i hope that's real

Like the ||cherubi||

Probably wont be but still

[forest egret]

||He looks flatter than what the other pokemon models were in the trailers, I have a feeling it's likely a fake based on older Tauros' model||

[flint sequoia]

It doesn't look like it has light mapping/detailed textures, probably fake

[small shoal]

It looks like sword and shield

Camping background

[fierce shell]

I believe it is

I also don't think the Tauros is rendered in game

Looks added in post

[wanton idol]

its probably fake but that would be so fun to sprite

[opal gull]

also amkess no sense for pic to be being taken ona switch yet

[fickle birch]

Not asking for much on the feedback front so I figured I'd post it here instead, but here's my WIP Koraidon sprite. 🙂

[forest egret]

Nice

[sterile garnet]

Aidon

[wanton idol]

headless koraidon

nah but fr as i said in smogon this is awesom

[fickle birch]

Spoilers for the game when it comes out, Koraidon's head gets chopped off by Miraidon. 🙂

[wanton idol]

the best design

[late tendon]

what a healthy relationship

[forest egret]

He's a robot that wants to feel joy so he needs Koraidon's brain to do that

[fierce shell]

Nah he's just mid transformation

[opal gull]

you seem to have forgotten the head 😛

[lament glen]

These legis really give me Digimon vibes now that I think about it

[late tendon]

they gave me strong Monster Hunter vibes the moment I saw them

I personally don't see anything bad in this tho

[opal gull]

no you cut off the tail for that not the head

slowpoke is monster hunter monster confirmed

[spark belfry]

[snow glade]

gen 9 remake when

[flint sequoia]

I year after gen9 comes out

[snow glade]

Still waiting for sharp sword / sturdy shield so we can get super zacian-crowned that has a permanent +6 attack boost on entry and a move that ignores abilities and hits everything for super effective

(i guess the other one gets +6 def and spdef and body press with the same property)

And every other mon becomes arceus or mega rayquaza to make it fair

[flint sequoia]

behemoth blade ignores abilities in gen9 because of the removal of dynamax

[opal gull]

or just ont bring back zacian

[fickle birch]

It's sad that we've reached a point where that's a genuine solution. 😦

[opal gull]

thing woull need a harsh nerf regardless

[flint sequoia]

The Tauros and Cherubi regionals were confirmed fake, unfortunately

[opal gull]

the tauros at least was quite obviously fake

as people pointed out for acouple reasons it was clearly added in after and didnt match rest of stuff we'd seen and it wouldnt have been on a switch yet regarless

[fierce shell]

It was also just a recolor

[flint sequoia]

that made it more realistic

[meager oasis]

A shame since the cherubi had a really cool design

i was expecting it to be fake ofc but still

[late tendon]

the problem's that it'd not be Cherubi anymore

it'd be Grapebi

unless there's a grape cherry or whatever

but yea the design is cute

[forest egret]

Black cherries are a thing, they're pretty much the same colour as grapes

[patent rivet]

Tell that to the ice steel type Sandslash

[forest egret]

Or the galarian yamask with no mask

The galarian legendary birds also don't have indicative names

[patent rivet]

At least Legends implied they had different names in their original areas since a person from Alola says they called Alolan Vulpix a different name in her region

[forest egret]

I kinda wish that's how they were presented

[patent rivet]

But then people would want them to be separate Pokémon fully since they’d have different names

[white jungle]

That could just be a reference to regions actually not all speaking English to be fair

/whatever language your game is set to

Like in an ideal world Kalosians mostly speak French

[forest egret]

There is a single joke about how Looker can't understand the accent of a Kantonian woman, but from the players perspective it's all the same

[white jungle]

Yeah because Nintendo obviously isn't gonna go to the bother of making all the NPC's speak a different language in each region, which makes sense but it kinda does take away from the world building

Especially since it doesn't even come up in the anime, but I don't think language barriers come up often in any anime

Too confusing for the dub

[patent rivet]

Unless it’s a story that takes place in Japan and they have some scene where an American tourist tries to ask the characters for directions (and it’s funny since often the person they got to voice the American speaks English worse than the main character)

[fierce shell]

In Jojo they talk about language a bunch

Mostly cause Joseph is racist and hangs out with Nazis, but they still do

[snow glade]

I dont think having to ally with nazi’s to stop people with lots of power that only you and a few people can counter makes you a racist (and im pretty sure he stops a few racists himself)

I also dont think this is the place to talk about this

[opal gull]

definitely not and I feel like the supernatural and fate of the world stuff bear mentioning

now to transition back to on topic

[fierce shell]

Just brought it back to Jojo

[patent rivet]

He’s got a steak on his head

[signal dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/josuke-hair-insult-jjba-jojo-gif-20805314

140p

[opal gull]

transitionng from jojo to scarlet violet

[opal gull]

what you talking about

his hair is very well done

[pseudo nymph]

yeah, it’s hot 🥵

[icy forge]

Maybe someone can translate this

[forest egret]

Twitter does have a translate feature so ig if you can find the tweet you could try that

[ripe thunder]

First tweet says "((💃)) ((💃)) ((💃))"

[forest egret]

Aight, I found the tweet. Putting in the tweet's text for the sunkern one into google translate says "I don't know what to do during the summer vacation..." while the hashtag says #SunkernThisSummer
Idk if that translation is 100% accurate but it would seem this tweet doesn't mean anything, if I had to guess

[vestal aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYkTJelQew

lot's of stuff in this one

no idea if these can be trusted but they look good to me

[fickle birch]

Shadow? That's not happening. 😂

[vestal aurora]

||shadow is normal ||

[fickle birch]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-13712192

[vestal aurora]

the guy in the picture

i didn't have sound on

[opal gull]

ruffled generally posts whatever rumors there are most not true

[fierce shell]

A drive does the same

[patent rivet]

Clickbait the young Pokémon fans

[smoky bison]

I have never and will never watch Pokemon youtubers

99% clickbait (that is stupid shit) and 1% stupid shit (that is also clickbait)

[late tendon]

I didn't watch this exact vid but just saying that these leaks may be true because looks like the person who leaked this is the same dude who leaked true stuff for Sword/Shield

[wanton idol]

lol im pretty sure the pokemon are some pixelmon stuff

These are atleast

[fickle birch]

I figured they weren't real, but it's a shame because I really like the bird and cactus. 😢

I'm still sad that we never got the bird from this fake XY leak. 😦

[patent rivet]

I remember I watched a then a bit when I was young, but I got tired of them stealing jokes/making the most obvious overplayed jokes and then not giving any cool new info, just stuff you already know

[surreal shell]

||honchkrow is going to evolve||

[patent rivet]

True!! 🙂

[wanton idol]

LOL this sucks ass i hope its fake

[snow glade]

Since the cap is almost completely vertical is this a vent reference from the hit game “among us”?

[small shoal]

Yes

[patent rivet]

That guy posts fake things constantly

[snow glade]

Kinda sus tbh

[forest egret]

Khu update thingy: ||I believe he confirmed that this (rather low quality) image of the water evo's head is real||

[patent rivet]

That's so blurry it could be anything

[small shoal]

He looks like a penguin

With glasses

[sterile garnet]

Darkrai

[late tendon]

It looks like Ash in a hat made of Honchkrow

[fierce shell]

There was a bunch of new images from some other guy

Apparently has the gym leaders

[late tendon]

Yes

People believe that's the same guy who leaked Sword/Shield because they have the same code/hidden nickname/whatever on the chinese website they use

[fickle birch]

Kinda sus, if you ask me.

[patent rivet]

It’s him

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/a-hat-in-time/images/4/42/DJ_Grooves_Full.png/revision/latest?cb=20180708181102

[fickle birch]

I just want it to be King Dedede. 😢

I'd be okay with this, but it'd be massively disappointing. 😦

[dull shoal]

Oh no I also really, really hope GameFreak was going to do better than that

[fickle birch]

This is still my favourite one: 🙂

[compact sequoia]

I really hope the starters of this gen don't get the gen 8 curse of "bland, eerily human final forms"

[fickle birch]

I strongly expect that Sprigatito is going to be on that train. 😦

[limpid depot]

I doubt they'd manage to make fuecoco bland and humanoid at least

[fickle birch]

Quaxly I think will be a more bird-like Blaziken, Fuecoco either a doofy crocodile or a serpent. 😅

[limpid depot]

I feel like the first stages give me more hope than gen 8's ones

All the gen 8 lines felt kinda
Weirdly toy like and ya felt that since the beginning

This batch is much more diverse in shape

[fickle birch]

I agree with you for sure on that front. 🙂

Last generation had the bobblehead problem to the extreme. 😦

Although I highly, highly doubt that Sprigatito will remain quadrupedal, which is a real shame. 😢

I feel like we're gonna get something like this. 😦

When we could have had this... 😭

[snow glade]

i feel like what we're getting won't be a pass

[limpid depot]

Tbh I could see either way
But ever since the 3d games started every single starter has been bipedal/humanoid
So it's... Statistically likely that'll stay

[snow glade]

(nosepass and probopass damn)

[limpid depot]

I can only wonder why they shifted to always do humanoid stuff

Maybe the gen 6 lines were so well liked they just kept repeating that I dunno

[fickle birch]

Which really annoys me. Fully bipedal starters used to be much less common (Venusaur and Meganium were quadrupeds, Typhlosion, Feraligatr and Swampert can at least operate as quadrupeds). 😅

[limpid depot]

It really feels like gen 6 was a total shift with that

[fickle birch]

They definitely weren't. Everyone loves Greninja, but Delphox was seen as the beginning of the trend of needless quadrupedalism and Chesnaught is the most meh of all the starters. 😦

[limpid depot]

Hm

I dunno, it's just weird that they decided that one day and just kept it

Maybe they in some way base new starters more on the starters of very newer gens, and then they just by coincidence made them humanoid twice in a row so they ended up locking that design choice forever or something

There's definitively gotta be some reason when one gen before the trend starting we had samurott and serperior

[icy forge]

Maybe that Unova Starters were very criticated

[fierce shell]

Second stage of that is nasty

No offense to the artist

[fierce shell]

Chespin was a fan favorite, and chesnaught is pretty cool

And braxien was popular enough to go into a fighting game

[fierce shell]

Primarina is definitely a deal

*seal

[limpid depot]

Ehhh I mean
Even if it doesn't have legs the mermaid implications are too obvious for it to not look humanoid

Like, it may not have legs or super defined hands
But it has a very humanoid torso

[compact sequoia]

gen 8 is really where the designs reached their worst, though.

your choices were: an ape and 2 guys wearing cheap animal costumes

[limpid depot]

Eh I mean
I have a feeling if I wasn't gay I'd find incineroar worse than them

[compact sequoia]

incineroar at least has meme potential

[limpid depot]

I actually like the general concept for inteleon but the proportions are
Weird and dangly

[compact sequoia]

the only reason I really like it is because it's gimmick is something I'm a fan of

[compact sequoia]

the hands are unforgivable.

like... regular chameleon hands have fingers too, why do you need to give him fully human hands

[limpid depot]

Yeah the body is so small and limbs so skinny that it looks like a baby toy with dangly, stretchy limbs

[compact sequoia]

it does kinda remind me of one of those retro toys who's only gimmick was the fact you can stretch them

[limpid depot]

And then scorbunny is just kinda bland as far as furry rabbits go
But with really dumb hair

[compact sequoia]

Cinderace is the most nothingburger design ever, in terms of pokemon.

and to think game freak gave him one of the few animations that wasn't just completely bare-bones

[limpid depot]

Eh all the starters last gen had special (aka not bad) animations

[fickle birch]

Out of every Pokémon fan I know (and that's a lot), I know only one person who'd pick Chespin in Kalos. And even he hates Quilladin. 😅

[compact sequoia]

the only designs from gen 8 that i actually like are the fossils

[fickle birch]

We all know why Braixen is popular.

[fickle birch]

I won't accept this Appletun erasure. 😛

[compact sequoia]

when you think about it, game freak seems to be trying pretty hard to appeal to that demographic

[compact sequoia]

OH YEAH APPLETUN! i legit forgot about him, but he's one of the best boys, too

[fickle birch]

I think that alone is a solid explanation for the recent trend. 😦

[limpid depot]

I don't think gen 8 designs in general were bad but it does have my least favorite pokemon ever now
I will literally never forgive stonjour that thing did nothing right

[fickle birch]

At least Legends had a slightly more unique dynamic of quadruped, bird (even if bipedal) and then a more conventional bipedal. 😅

[compact sequoia]

i mean, hatterene, salazzle, and florges proves my point

[fickle birch]

Enamorus is mine. By a wide margin. 😦

[limpid depot]

Enamorus is at least laughable
Stonjour is just mildly condescending which is a way worse way to make me feel

[compact sequoia]

my personal least favorite design has still gotta be that ice cube penguin. it just feels so bland and uninspired, like woah, literally just a normal penguin but with an ice cube for a head

[fickle birch]

I'm not a fan of Stonjourner either. Too cartoony. Milcery has a similar problem, but I can excuse it because it's unevolved. 😅

[fickle birch]

Eiscue is awful, yeah. I also dislike Chewtle. 😦

[compact sequoia]

chewtle is close second

[fickle birch]

Pokémon stopped feeling like living creatures in Gen VIII and felt more like wacky cartoon characters. The humans were similar; I've said before how I hated most trainer designs in SwSh. 😅

[limpid depot]

Eiscue needed a bit more but eh for a meme design it's not that awful just a bit bland
Chewtle is dumb but ok enough

[fickle birch]

Chewtle's head can't fit into its shell, that's why I don't like it. 😦

Like I know other turtle Pokémon have big heads (including Turtwig, who I like a lot), but Chewtle's proportions are just too wacky, plus it has the single tooth and stupid eyebrow that has a loop in it sometimes. Too much. 😢

[compact sequoia]

they ran out of cute ideas for turtle designs, I guess

another design that irks me is the baby form of toxtricity. they literally gave it a diaper.

[limpid depot]

Yeah tbh I like more angular styles too
But at least it's better than the pure blandness of gen 4 where everyone, even important trainers, was just some person with maybe a defining color
Like, this gen had bad generic npcs but I appreciate the uniqueness of the actually important ones

[fickle birch]

I liked Gen IV's NPCs at lot.

[compact sequoia]

I honestly like the gen 8 character designs, but that's mainly just because I'm a sucker for character design

gen 4 npcs kinda made my eyes glaze over, tbh. I don't even remember any of the designs

[limpid depot]

One of my big disappointments with the gen 4 remakes is that I always thought that whole gen needed redesigns on the level of team magma and aqua in oras

[fickle birch]

So am I, but the only character designs I really liked in Gen VIII were Nessa, Chairman Rose, Sonia, Opal and Piers. 😅

[compact sequoia]

mhm, Maxie and Archie get drip while Cyrus remains dripless

[limpid depot]

Like, the whole elite 4 is just some random people they found on the street

[compact sequoia]

I only remember the dude with the stupid afro

[fickle birch]

I feel like Aaron and Bertha are forgettable, but I like Flint and Lucian. 😂

Lucian was actually harder for me than Cynthia in BDSP.

I feel like Gens I and II had a really unique identity with the watercolour and the spikiness, Gen III went a bit smoother but still had a lot of the original charm, then it did start to get more generic from IV onwards. VIII feels pretty removed from the anime style at times, it just seems cartoony, which I don't like. 😦

[compact sequoia]

tbh, opal's design is probably one of my favorites... mainly since it's as close to a queen of England joke the game has.

I also like gen 5 a lot, but that's thanks to "the cowboy hat bias"

[fickle birch]

Like what even is this? 😦

And these just aren't appealing designs. 😦

[compact sequoia]

doesn't read at all like a martial arts pro, it looks like a dude who teaches karate classes on the weekends

[limpid depot]

Yeah they really overuse the big shiny weird eyes

[fickle birch]

These are even worse.

[compact sequoia]

tbh, the cop is so terrifying it's funny. the postman has no excuse.

[limpid depot]

I think gen 5 (wow what a surprise) had the best balance of looking unique and not boring but still having the defined pokemon style

[compact sequoia]

also it has a cowboy

[limpid depot]

Gen 6 and 7 being close too

[fickle birch]

Milo just outright lacks a nose. 😂

[compact sequoia]

who needs em

[limpid depot]

I don't think there's much wrong with some more cartoony stuff here and there
But they kinda overused it some places lol

[fickle birch]

I really like III's designs, if I had to pick a generation. Almost definitely fuelled by nostalgia, and they could have had more interesting outfits I suppose, I just like how humans were drawn then I guess. 😅

[compact sequoia]

omega ruby was the first pokemon game I got, so you can imagine my disappointment when I later found out those were redesigns and the initial evil team members were dripless.

[limpid depot]

Eh probably nostalgia from me too but all the oras redesigns are much more interesting looking

[fickle birch]

It's as much of an art style thing with me as it is an actual design thing. 😂

[compact sequoia]

welp, imma finish drawing this porykip

[limpid depot]

lol
I feel like they might've also changed the artstyle from gen 4 and beyond to match the anime
Like, it's probably simpler to have a consistent design for both
Maybe that also explains the more cartoony stuff after gen 7, the anime itself changed a lot in style around there

[fickle birch]

Nah, you can see the anime art style changing too; May's eyes vs Dawn's shows a change there. Late DPPt characters looked like BW characters too. 😅

[limpid depot]

I mean, kinda, but
The style was way closer to the anime first few gen's style than the game one lol

[white jungle]

Gen 5 character design must be pretty good because they palette swapped Hugh and made his hair fluffier for Bede

[fickle birch]

I don't understand what you mean. 😂

[fierce shell]

I actually enjoy gen 8 character designs

A lot more diversified looks in the region, which I'm a big fan og

[fickle birch]

Diverse is good, I just don't like the art direction of the generation at all. Trainers suffer from the same issues as Pokémon. 😦

[fierce shell]

I'm a fan of most gen 8 Pokémon, most of them are so layered it's nice finding something new about the design every day

Other than Eiscue

[white jungle]

I find it funny that gen 8 produced two strong ice types who rely on belly drum

That feels very niche

But they did it twice

[fierce shell]

Gen 8 was just really lacking atmosphere, which was ironic for a game with a open world section

[lapis linden]

Lol

[fierce shell]

The wild area all seems like the same place, leading to it looking like all the Pokémon live in the same habitat

[lapis linden]

I liked gen 8, mostly the biggest issue with gen 8 is definitely the story its very underwhelming sorta feels like team rocket in that sense

[fierce shell]

Walking through the desert and finding sandiles and Cacnea in B&W was awesome, but SwSh is too linear to make it feel like you're going somewhere new

[white jungle]

I'd have preferred no wild area with better towns and smaller routes tbh. Feels like everything in the wild area could have been put in routes if they were just bigger, and the roamable towns were so damn sparce

You get to the final town, meant to represent London, it's supposed to be a big moment

[fierce shell]

SwSh's stories needed some breaks

[white jungle]

It's the lamest fucking place I've ever seen

[fierce shell]

It feels like you're going down the same road for four hours

And the whole game feels like a side quest

[lament glen]

I'm honestly not sure what was worse in gen 8: The routes or the wild area?

Both of them are pretty much a 0/10 to me lol

[lapis linden]

😂

[fierce shell]

I would say the routes

The routes have nothing of interest

[lament glen]

yea

[fierce shell]

All the secret areas are clearly in view

It's literally just a place for a 2 minute walk

[lapis linden]

I didn’t mind the wild area, but the routes for the most part were meh at best lol

[fierce shell]

And you can dodge almost every trainer

[lament glen]

tho it is impressive how the routes are like leagues worse than even the gen 1 routes

[white jungle]

I think SwSh's main appeal comes in the form of its gyms, specifically the competitor aspect of it. Frankly I don't give enough of a shit about the actual content, I think they should have given us more rivals instead

[fierce shell]

The routes were just loading screens for the wild area

[white jungle]

Sure it's smaller scale conflict, but we could have had rival gangs of supporters fighting

Team Yell Vs Team Sign Language or whatever the fuck

[fierce shell]

If SwSh had a big tournament

That would have been awesome

[lament glen]

Team Sign language is unironically something I wanna see now

[fierce shell]

That's team skull

https://tenor.com/view/team-skull-teamskull-grunt-grunts-gif-7273088

[white jungle]

Plus people LOVE Marnie (and not just gross people) so honestly I think the game would have benefited from more loveable rivals instead of a terribly forgettable villain

I mean fuck, Bede, I'd rather know what happened there instead of following the main plot

[lament glen]

Doesnt the game already have like 3 rivals? I don't think the number is the problem here

[white jungle]

He just evaporated for a bit

[white jungle]

Could easily bring that to six if you scrapped the crappy plot/j

[forest egret]

That old witch woman stole him

[fierce shell]

Make all the gym leaders members of a big tournament, and the gyms were just places where you went to fight

[white jungle]

My point isn't that there aren't enough super prominent rivals, I think you could still have the main three

[fierce shell]

The order you fight them should have been random

[lament glen]

there was a plot?

[white jungle]

But I think we should have had a load of sub rivals in the form of other competitors

[lament glen]

i don't believe that

[fierce shell]

Hop does nothing the whole game

His battles take 20 seconds

[lament glen]

You just described every single supporting character in 8 generations of pokemon games

[fierce shell]

100% the worst rival in all of Pokémon in terms of skill

[fierce shell]

I mean actually nothing

He doesn't help anyone, the plot could go without him, and even in the final battle his dumb sheep just dies

[white jungle]

You could even see other groups of competitors, you could get a double battle with Hop (triple with him and Marnie if they had the balls to bring that back) against other competitors who became friends

Like, why would you be the only competitor to not be completely Lone Wolf?

[fierce shell]

At least the gym leaders are supposedly fighting Pokémon in the background while you go on a adventure

[lapis linden]

Hop could have been more interesting if his character arc wasn’t “I lost time to become a professor” 😂

[fierce shell]

He realized he sucked at battling

[white jungle]

And that's a high bar given how bad Hugh's entire team is in BW2

[fierce shell]

Hop can be breezed through using a underlevel Pokémon with your eyes closed

Other rivals get better ai as the game goes on, he gets worse

[white jungle]

You and Hop being parallels to the past heroes was just fucking... Forced. And lazy.

Two people, a sword for one a shield for the other 🤓🤓

It's a sword and shield you wield both

[lapis linden]

XD

[white jungle]

I want both

I'm taking both

[lapis linden]

But then they wouldn’t get two games

[white jungle]

What will Hop do?

Fight me?

I could kick his ass

[fickle birch]

If I had to compare RSE to ORAS designs, I'd say: 🙂

Brendan: RSE by a mile.
May: RSE. Anime helps, I imagine.
Birch: RSE. Too cartoony in ORAS.
Roxanne: Negligible difference, I like the RSE's palette more.
Brawly: ORAS.
Watson: RSE, absolutely.
Flannery: RSE, but close.
Norman: ORAS.
Winona: RSE. I dislike the weird bug helmet in ORAS.
Liza and Tate: ORAS, but very close.
Wallace: ORAS, I love that design.
Sydney: ORAS. Matches his type better.
Phoebe: Literally the exact same. Eyes too big in ORAS though so I prefer RSE.
Glacia: ORAS, though I don't like either of the designs all that much.
Drake: Literally the exact same. Matches the original Gen III art style as well, interestingly.
Steven: Negligible too, but the open blazer in ORAS works better.
Grunts: All RSE except the male Aqua grunt.
Shelley: ORAS, but I also like the original design so I was sad to see it go.
Matt: ORAS by such a wide margin.
Archie: ORAS.
Courtney: RSE, only because I don't like the direction they took her character in ORAS.
Tabitha: RSE, not even close.
Maxie: RSE, because the ORAS design reminds me of someone I know and don't like.

RSE: 14 ORAS: 10 (counting Liza and Tate as 1)

[white jungle]

Look how short he is

[fierce shell]

Eternatus has hands, he can hold both

[white jungle]

Plus I have a sword and shield now

I will kill Hop Pokémon.

[lapis linden]

😂

[lament glen]

Idk what this is about but I think I agree with this lol

Though only oras has Zinnia, so thats a bonus point for it

[white jungle]

Not enough furry rivals in SwSh is the issue, I'd like Hop a lot more if he had green hair and could speak Pokémon

And if he shortened his name to H

But H is a dumb letter

So let's just go with N.

[lapis linden]

😂

[fickle birch]

It was a conversation from earlier, I just took a while making my mind up and typing it. 😂

[compact sequoia]

i like oras Tabitha, mainly because he's the closest to a character that actually looks like me as possible

which is kind of embarrassing when I say it out loud

[limpid depot]

Pfff
I prefer oras tabitha cuz
rse tabitha is somehow a blander guy than the grunts at least he has personality now

[white jungle]

I think one thing ORAS got right was Archie

Darker skin looks so much better on him, and it's more diverse (ignoring the strong possibility that it's pokemon's idea of a heavy tan)

And you may say

"Heavy tan? Don't be ridiculous, that's clearly too dark to just be tan"

And to that I say YOU WOULD ONLY HOPE

BECAUSE LOOK UPON THIS MAN AND WEEP

HE'S LIKE A MERMAID BUT INSTEAD OF FISH ITS A FUCKING WHITE GUY

WHY IS HE SPLIT IN TWO

I was so much more comfortable before learning Marlon was not POC

(well he might be Japanese but to me most Unovans are probably the Pokémon equivalent of white because it's based on the US)

Regardless I hate his design

It's like if you described what a Mixed person is to a medieval peasant and then asked them to draw it

(disclaimer that joke relies on the assumption that medieval peasants weren't generally familiar with poc or at least dark-skinned people, this is a big assumption to make and I'm not entirely sure if it's true)

Sorry historians

[patent rivet]

What game is this guy from?

[white jungle]

Black and White 2

Which is...

Ironic.

[patent rivet]

Well then he would be American, the equivalent anyways

[white jungle]

That's what I was saying yeah

Marlon aside (and god let's leave him there because I don't like looking at him)

I love the English names of gen 5 characters

First of all

[patent rivet]

Ah, so he’s Nemo’s dad

[white jungle]

Hugh is a nameable trainer, the game sets you up for a Hugh Jass joke it's great

Second of all HILBERT

BW is 10x better when you realise the guy is canonically fucking HILBERT

[patent rivet]

Hilda also always sounded weird to me

[white jungle]

Kind of an odd name but it's no Hilbert

I at least have a frame of reference for Hilda

And I've seen it used in Hilda the Netflix show

[patent rivet]

Though at least they have real names, unlike Red, Blue, Leaf, Gold, and Silver

[white jungle]

Hilbert is a cursed enigma

Because SO many people make Pokémon fanfiction

And sure the nerdier ones would have gone for his Japanese name, Touya (if I remember correctly)

[patent rivet]

Red and Ash are both named Satoshi in Japanese

[white jungle]

Blue was also Green I believe

Until Green was added later

[patent rivet]

In Let’s Go

Where she tries to catch you in a Poke Ball like a weirdo

[white jungle]

Didn't finish Let's Go but the animated short of that was great the people who made that did an amazing job

Showed up, made beautiful art, gave Green a girlfriend and fucking left

Absolute chads

[limpid depot]

Pretty sure blue/green are still name swapped I think

Which is weird since they always give them blastoise/vinesaur respectively but

[white jungle]

In Japanese?

[limpid depot]

I've never heard of them changing the japanese names to fit that

[white jungle]

That is odd

[patent rivet]

Red has Venusaur in the manga

[white jungle]

You've failed to consider that the manga is just built different

[limpid depot]

In pokemon masters they follow the english name logic

[white jungle]

Ah yes

Pokémon Master Sex

My favourite game

[limpid depot]

But I'm pretty sure they're still green/blue not blue/green in japan

Which just makes this whole appearance really odd

[white jungle]

Unrelated but I fucking hate Pokémon Master Sex's Red

[patent rivet]

Well that’s not Green, it’s Leaf

[white jungle]

I've known this guy for two seconds but his vibes are fucking awful

I want him DEAD

[limpid depot]

True they should have been consistent with his age

[white jungle]

How does Blue look like less of a douchebag than him

[limpid depot]

Like why is he younger compared to the sun/moon characters now

[white jungle]

I'd punch Master Sex Red in the throat

[patent rivet]

Look how big Red’s collar is

[white jungle]

Wormhole

[limpid depot]

Tho tbh even when they did age him up they didn't age wally when rse are supposed to be years earlier too

[patent rivet]

You’re asking about correct age in this spinoff game about using every character from throughout the series?

[white jungle]

God don't you just love it now that Pokémon has introduced its own fix-all anti-plothole device?

[limpid depot]

lol

[white jungle]

If it doesn't make sense, a wormhole did it

[patent rivet]

It’s not like the continuity has really mattered anyways

Also, this is the Scarlet and Violet chat

[limpid depot]

I mean I liked some of the wormhole stuff
It's more the total retconning every game that feels off, the holes are just a small part of that

[white jungle]

Nate and Hilbert and Rosa and Hilda are also the same age in Master Sex I believe, despite the fact that the BW1 protags have a couple years on them

[white jungle]

Wormhole.

[patent rivet]

I’m sending you to Brazil

[white jungle]

Yeah I was just joking, it's fun to look at some of the inconsistencies but I just find the idea comical that Nintendo basically got bored and are steadily using this "generate chaos" sub-plot more and more

"we can put Ingo in Hisui, space time is falling apart, who gives a shit"

[patent rivet]

Not Nintendo

[white jungle]

Sorry, wormhole, I meant Game Freak

Or whatever the fuck is still pumping this series out

[patent rivet]

Never heard of them, but it was GameFreak who makes Pokémon games

[white jungle]

Neeeeeeerd

[patent rivet]

L + ratio + you’re a furry + where’s the caveman?

Anyways, these games still have a high chance of sucking

[white jungle]

Contrary to what I've displayed in this discord server over the last few months I'm not a furry

I just accept Pokémon for what it is, a furry fandom

Ignore the anthropomorphic wolf in my pfp

[limpid depot]

Oh rly

[patent rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[white jungle]

I mean that's what people said about Legends Arceus and honestly like

Graphical complaints are generally spot on

But it's still a fun game

[snow glade]

We speak for the trees

[patent rivet]

I didn’t get it since it has no multiplayer

[limpid depot]

Pokemon would have to try really hard to not be enjoyable just by being pokemon tbh

[white jungle]

I think it's just about finding the balance of enjoying the game without meat riding Gamefreak when they put out something they cheaped out on for the 7th year in a row

Like a lot of the community is willing to do

The multiplayer function looks solid at the very least, which will be a great benefit to those among us with friends or at least a second device with which to emulate friendship

Y'know, that classic gamer move of playing with yourself

[limpid depot]

Pfff yeah
The internet does that. Either you're a maniac who hates people having fun or you're a blind fanboy, it's what causes engagement, nobody wants to hear an opinion full of "but"s even if that's the more balanced one

[white jungle]

Don't you want to be a gamer?

[snow glade]

Imagine friendship in 1v1s with other peoplr

[white jungle]

Pokémon out here with the rare centrism w

Not a black and white community (unless you really like gen 5)

[limpid depot]

As a centrist I will not elaborate but will roll my eyes quickly

[white jungle]

You've gotta take the good with the bad and accept it for what it is because odds are things won't improve quick

I mean, the people who preach how much they hate the new games still keep buying and experiencing them so that they can hate them

It's just something for them to do I guess

In between not bathing

And, assumedly, browsing Reddit

[patent rivet]

I didn’t buy them

[limpid depot]

Eh, I kinda get them
Sometimes ya want to see a franchise succeed but you still think the new stuff sucks
But you gotta be there for when it gets good again, ya gotta hold on to hope
It's like sonic fans but more of a minority than the whole fanbase

[patent rivet]

Since Pokémon is too popular to be stopped

[white jungle]

Ehhh, I'd say there's a key difference with Sonic fans for the simple fact they never feel so jaded

Sonic fans complaining always feels kinda like "well, see you next time"

Pokémon fans expressing their hate for a game is like

It's like they're angry at you

[limpid depot]

I don't really see it

[patent rivet]

Wouldn’t you only feel that way if you liked the games they’re criticizing?

Since it’s just complaining about how the game has tons of problems and blaming the game creators, not random fans

[white jungle]

Not particularly, a good example is PLA and graphics complaints. Most of them I agree with, but the way some people phrase then has so much god damn vitriol that it's like...

I know this shit why are you telling me?

[patent rivet]

So you’re upset that people have a lot of the same complaints?

[limpid depot]

I don't get the difference with any other fanbase
Maybe pokemon is just kinda big enough that more angry people are easier to see

[patent rivet]

And Sonic has been mistreated by Sega for a long time

[white jungle]

Probably helps that I'm more engaged with it than other fandoms which are prone to a lot of complaints

[white jungle]

Sometimes.

[limpid depot]

Yeah
Like, I see a lotta sonic stuff and some people are just as mad with 3 pieces of music as pokemo fans are with the graphics in general

And the whole ocarina of time on switch online looking bad thing was basically the exact same too a while ago

[patent rivet]

I’m guessing you mean Sonic Origins having some music replaced for copyright reasons

[white jungle]

Sometimes I'm just embarrassed and frustrated by the people I'm meant to agree with. They completely spoil a valid criticism by being insufferable, unlikeable assholes.

[limpid depot]

There's people like that for every opinion

[white jungle]

Ocarina of time is on Switch Online now?

[patent rivet]

Well you don’t have to have someone you agree with to prove anything anyways

[limpid depot]

Yeah and they messed up the water graphics n stuff

Been some months

[white jungle]

Christ

[patent rivet]

Yeah, it sucked

[white jungle]

Wonder when they'll do DS games

[patent rivet]

And Kirby 64 on Switch online had a soft lock glitch that happened when you got hurt underwater and didn’t exist in any other version

[white jungle]

This is why you should only play that new Kirby Inflation Fall Guys game

[patent rivet]

I have Kirby’s Dream Collection for the Wii, so that’s how I play Kirby 64

[fierce shell]

Kirby Dream Gourmet Course looks fun

I'll be getting it

[limpid depot]

Honestly, this is something you just kinda gotta deal with in the internet
There's always gonna be some psycho making you look bad, but it's better to have your opinion on things not be based on how "nice" the people who agree with it are but the opinion itself
Sometimes I feel onto that trap and it was bad and childish of me, it kinda just leads you to silence yourself or follow whatever side is not being "dunked on" at the moment
Ya gotta separate the idea from the people and stuff, sharing a vague thought about video games with someone bad or annoying doesn't make you bad

[white jungle]

I don't base my opinion on how nice the people who hold it are typically (though sometimes that is an important factor depending on the context), it's just a specific type of fan I hate

[limpid depot]

I know we have only seem 10 seconds of gameplay but the kirby thing feels like it's gonna be lackluster
Like, it may get one video from every youtuber you know then immediately disappear, I don't like that kinda game a lot

[white jungle]

I can deal with complaining, I can deal with anger, but I draw the line at people who irritate me

[white jungle]

Yeaaaaah, don't honestly have much hope. Feels like those weird mobile-game-esque 3DS Kirby games they made

That mini fighting game which was free to play to begin with then you had to pay to play

[limpid depot]

Yeah it's totally that kinda thing lol

[fierce shell]

Kirby fighters was hype

Youtubers don't cover it but it has a competitive community to this day

And it got a second game, which shows how much people enjoyed it

The Kirby side games don't get too much coverage cause they're only really fun if you're playing them with friends

[limpid depot]

I think that one was lucky that they could reuse all the assets (and even then as a casual fan it wasn't very special or anything)
But this one is from the ground up so I really think it'll just be lacking in content

[wanton idol]

editing my sprite for smogon

[late tendon]

olibebe

olittle

[lament glen]

good job on the right one

👍

[wanton idol]

so funny

[wanton idol]

more edits

[rare vortex]

you could take this and the prev version and make a lil bouncy

[wanton idol]

smoliv starterpack

[forest egret]

Pretty cool

[lament glen]

Finally: Smollest smolive

[late tendon]

olittle

[rare vortex]

lolive

[late tendon]

Aight, I think leaks are going too wild again

Solving riddles that hinted stuff was fun but then the other dude came out and leaked everything right away

So I'll quit checking any leaks including Riddler cuz I can't avoid other leaks that way

As Joe Merric just said, people will go "Oh so the leaks were true cool" instead of "Oh shit this is wild!" when new trailers will drop, and I personally don't want that to happen to me

Riddles were fun to speculate at least

[lament glen]

I'm glad that Xenoblade fans are mature enough to not leak or even spoil stuff

Haven't even been spoiled about anything from the direct yet and I'm really thankfull for that

[wanton idol]

huh which leaks were true

could someone dm me it, i wanna know for smogon lol

[forest egret]

||Sprigatito and Quaxly evo backs, as well as Quaxly evo head were confirmed by Khu to be real in the ones shown||

||They're super low quality screenshots that show very little of the actual mons, so if you're looking to make sprites of them you'll still have to hold off for those dudes||

[wanton idol]

aight

[late tendon]

Now I'm extra thankful to people who hides leaks in spoilers

[fierce shell]

||They leaked all of the gym leaders too, which isn't directly confirmed yet but matches with Riddler's descriptions if you reach a bit||

[fickle birch]

||Is the Sprigatito one quadrupedal?🤞||

[fierce shell]

||all that was shown was a weird flower that goes inside out, and is apparently the back of its head. It's also super blurry||

[fickle birch]

||I know they're blurry, I saw the Quaxly one and tried making something out of it, but just couldn't. 😢||

[fierce shell]

||lower half isn't shown, or at least we can't tell if it is||

I really do think that grass final evo will be a typhlosion type deal tho

It can go on four legs if it wants to

Technically inceneroar can go on all fours but that ruins the gimmick

Doesn't look that bad actually, he's quadrupedal in movie 20

[patent rivet]

You just made me think of how terrible it is that they made Purrloin bipedal

[fickle birch]

Oh, yeah that was awful. It's so awkward as a biped. 😦

[white jungle]

I want Sprigatito's final evolution to be bipedal but like this

[patent rivet]

Purrloin was clearly designed to be on all fours, unlike Meowth who was clearly designed to walk on two feet

And I actually always thought it was weird that the anime tried to say Meowth normally walks on four and Team Rocket’s Meowth is a weirdo

[fickle birch]

Some old sprites had it on all fours as well. 😅

[patent rivet]

That one also doesn’t have any legs, just feet attached to the body like a Kirby character

[fierce shell]

Limited canvas size I would say

I generally use the anime to go further into Pokémon behavior

And most cats can walk on all fours or on two legs if they feel like it there

Pretty strange but I guess it's just a thing

All cat Pokémon in the future

[patent rivet]

Litten got that hourglass

Also I hope you realize a fox is not a cat

[vestal aurora]

Hummmm

[fierce shell]

My Spanish isn't good enough 😔

[vestal aurora]

||It is one of my favourite fairy types tho||

[vestal aurora]

||which pokemon with the fairy typing has a look less... magical?||

[icy forge]

Is also in italian and french

[vestal aurora]

||granbull regional could be really poggers||

[fierce shell]

||It deserves one. The Pokémon feels unfinished as it is||

[limpid depot]

||Eh it's probably just a random social media post
They do those a lot||

[smoky bison]

||If those were related to S/V, then the English account would have posted smth like that as well||

[fickle birch]

||If that was a hint (I don't think it is), I'd love it if they gave it an all-out wizard theme, or something like that. 😅||

[fickle birch]

Koraidon has regained its head (thanks to KingOfThe-X-Roads for the outline). 😄

[smoky bison]

https://tenor.com/view/nowdrawhimworkingminimumwage-goku-ultra-instinct-gif-25900369

[limpid depot]

Yknow
A weird thing with the box legendaries
I feel like their heads are too big and make them look small?
At least compared to the other main legends

[fickle birch]

I get that, initially the sprite has a bigger eye by a single pixel, and it made the whole thing look chibi. Sprites are allowed to play fast and loose with proportions though. 🙂

I kinda feel like Koraidon and Miraidon feel more like Gen V legendaries than recent ones. 😄

In that they're possible to sprite without being a pain. Looking at you, Lunala.

[limpid depot]

Hmhm lol
I think the gen 5 legendaries comparison is pretty apt
Tho, not really with the main box ones

[fickle birch]

I dunno, I get major Reshiram/Zekrom vibes from them outside of the more complex colour schemes. Though I'd say how they look is more reminiscent aesthetically (not anatomically) of the Swords of Justice. 😅

[lament glen]

If you had shown them to me 3 months ago and told me they were Digimon, I would have believed you without any doubt

And if you told me right now, I would probably still believe you

[limpid depot]

lol yeah something about them has a very digimon vibe

Must be the mechanical aspect to it

[forest egret]

I think it's that + their colours, lots of high contrast colours going on

[smoky bison]

The past legendary looks something native American-like

Did ye olden Spaniards have a similar wardrobe?

[vestal aurora]

the iberian discovered the america soo...

[forest egret]

Hmm, not too sure. I think it's more of a general tribal look than specifically Native American, but who knows

I can see what you mean though, because of the feathers on the head

[smoky bison]

The general conception of "tribal look" in the US is that of Native Americans tho
When I hear "tribal" I think more of vikings or African tribes

[forest egret]

When I hear "Tribal" I think of a lot of things, like those, or Cherokee, or Indigenous Australians, etc etc

I would've assumed that Koraidon is supposed to be a general "past" theme in its look but maybe it is something specific to Iberian culture, however since most of the box legendaries aren't linked to their region's origin it could very well be something else, not exactly sure

[lament glen]

I do also get American Indian vibes from it

[white jungle]

I really hope it's not explicitly native American themed

[forest egret]

The thing I'm wondering is if it is based on something specific like that, I wonder how the 1:1 works for Miraidon

[white jungle]

Because that bodes poorly for THE SPANISH REGION

I wonder if they're actually different or if Miraidon is the future version of Koraidon

Guess it depends if the game involves a lot of time travel or if the region is simply transitioning into a futuristic age

[smoky bison]

they invented a time machine to see what culture there would be in the year 3000

They came back with nothing, so they just made shit up

[forest egret]

Gamefreak's been working on time travel instead of better games

[lament glen]

Last time I checked, Life and Death weren't things that only exist in France

[smoky bison]

Nah pretty sure you can only die in france

[vestal aurora]

that explains why i haven't died yet

[white jungle]

Colonisation is a whole lot more than death and also France isn't real don't FUCKING lie to me

[smoky bison]

Typical gamefreak, doing anything but make better Pokemon games

[lament glen]

That explains Napoleons evil masterplan

[vestal aurora]

yeah but colonisation isn't only exclusive to spain either

[white jungle]

I never said that

[fierce shell]

Game freak is going to design the butterfly effect within game

And then still not improve graphics

[smoky bison]

Have you been colonised? No? Do you not live in spain? Case closed

[white jungle]

But the point is that no other region based on a place with colonisation has done anything surrounding it

And this shouldn't either

[vestal aurora]

actually i lived in an old portuguese colony for most of my live so

[white jungle]

Because colonisation is very different to Kalos just having a generic war concept

[fickle birch]

I mean, the French region had Norse legendaries. 😅

[forest egret]

I think every region aside from Galar has had box legends not themed after their region

[fierce shell]

The American region had Japanese legends

[white jungle]

That wasn't really my point

[fierce shell]

The focus isn't colonization tho?

[white jungle]

My point is I don't want them to do some weird colonisation plot based on conquistadors and having a native American based legendary would bring them scarily close to that

[smoky bison]

The devs have put in some questionable shit already. Victini for example

[fierce shell]

Headdresses are just commonly associated with ancient people. Koraidon is a ancient dragon

[fickle birch]

Yeah, the games aren't going to be about colonisation. 😅

[white jungle]

Tf Victini do

[fickle birch]

They're going to be about time travel. 🙂

[lament glen]

As if they would ever touch on something like that in the plot of a Pokemon game

[fickle birch]

Colonisation is far too heavy of a topic for games meant for children. 😛

[smoky bison]

too much

[white jungle]

This is literally what I'm saying

[fierce shell]

Gen nine villain is Christopher Columbus from the 25st century

[limpid depot]

I've heard it has like
Weird vague ties to the atomic bomb and WWII in general

[smoky bison]

^

[white jungle]

Holy shit

[fierce shell]

Gen 6 already had atomic bomb messages

[white jungle]

Victini what the fuck

[fierce shell]

And war stuff

[lament glen]

They do have a ton of that in the lore

[smoky bison]

Might have some completely different inspirations but there are so many coincidences surrounding it and the Manhatten project in general

[lament glen]

Just not in the plot or anything very obvious

[vestal aurora]

his name could be Cristov Coloñia

[white jungle]

I don't think generic war stories are bad for the game

So long as they don't stray too close to real life horrors

Because war as a concept is vague and happens to everyone

[fickle birch]

Radical tonal differences is why most fangames feel amateurish. 😅

[fierce shell]

Mfw Hypno cannonically kidnaps children to take to his cave

[lament glen]

Its not like they can do whatever they want anyway. At least unless they wanna keep their e for everyone rating and actually sell the game to children

[fickle birch]

Pokémon's about escapism, it's not supposed to tackle real world problems outside of cartoony representations. 😦

[forest egret]

The pokemon world has a cataclysm machine. Death and destruction and such are not out of pokemon's grasp but yeah, trivializing real world events and themes is something I think they're mostly gonna steer clear of

[white jungle]

Pokedex entries aren't exactly canon.

Aside from Lanturn

[fickle birch]

All of the darkness is subtle or hidden away, like Guzma's childhood. That works. Having it as a major plotpoint would be a different subject. 😅

[white jungle]

Lanturn does solo Goku.

[limpid depot]

Oh yeah and Sawk and Throh are also based on WWII japanese propaganda lol

[lament glen]

Disagree, I think it can very well tackle heavy topics in its world. But it has to be done with taste. Which most fangames do indeed not do at all, I agree with that

[fierce shell]

Sawk and throh are the red and blue Oni

[white jungle]

Sawk d

[forest egret]

That really is just one of the most mature things in the series

[white jungle]

Sawk dee

D

Saw

Sawwwwkkk

😶

[vestal aurora]

sawk my huge dick yeah

[fierce shell]

The oni are a commonly referenced thing in Japanese stuff

Just like journey to the west is

Idk where you got the propoganda idea from

[limpid depot]

Yes
But there is a tie to WWII propaganda with it
Lockstin made a video that talks about that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdgfbidwWK8

It's talked about more near the middle-end iirc

[white jungle]

I find it funny that even though he's like the most American Big Tex looking bastard

Clay is a good part Japanese

Or the Pokémon equivalent of it

[limpid depot]

Yeah
That was actually confirmed even before legends aceus, I think

[white jungle]

That's neat

I want more returning trainers in SV

[forest egret]

To be fair it seems like everyone's bloodlines started in Sinnoh from how many ancestors we see there lol

[white jungle]

Gimme Emmet searching for Ingo at LEAST

[limpid depot]

He was described somewhere as an immigrant who "took on the customs" which is a really funny way to say it lol

At least that's what I remember might just be a weird retroactive mandella effect

[lament glen]

That Legends Arceus thing where everyone has to be an ancestor of someone is still so cringe to me

[white jungle]

The idea of an immigrant showing up in what is essentially Pokamerica and immediately beating everyone at capitalism is kind of hilarious to me

[limpid depot]

Pff

[limpid depot]

Eh I mean I think it's mostly neat
They kept it more contained with gen 4 people which makes sense

[fierce shell]

Clay is meant to be a Japanese business man acting American

[forest egret]

Westaboo

[fierce shell]

Yeah

[white jungle]

It's also funny to me that the only functioning police force we see in Unova is literally called in from another region. Any other cops are just there to battle. Asid from Looker being called in for the sage's, it's like the entire region is under the protection of the gym leaders/league and that's so funny

Imagine if the fucking Rock decided to start stopping crime

Imagine someone shows up to save you from a hostage situation

It's Robert Downey Junior

[smoky bison]

Aren't we kinda doing the same in our game rn?

[wanton idol]

damn, really hoped this game was gonna be Pokemon: EU4

[wanton idol]

isnt literally anything new pokemon cringe to you

🚎

[white jungle]

I do like that Sinnoh being the Big Important region even further solidifies the fact that, despite how much focus it gets, Kanto is maybe the least fucking important region we've seen

[lament glen]

We are

But to be fair, there is a difference with it being characters children and grandchildren compared to Legends Arceus portraing people that are like 15 generations appart looking exactly the same down to the hairstyle, with only their clothes being different

[white jungle]

Like no shit a crappy little mafia is what took root there

It's a piddly ass region compared to everything else

[fierce shell]

Kanto is very important

[white jungle]

Team Rocket would have had no chance starting out in Kalos or somewhere like that

[smoky bison]

Fair, our characters barely look alike even though they are grandchildren/children

[fierce shell]

The ruler of all life is there

[white jungle]

Blue.

[fierce shell]

And lysandre was like the most dangerous villain

The other guys are just rich evil dudes

[forest egret]

But he sucks so who cares

[limpid depot]

Neo that's Kalos

[fierce shell]

He straight up has mechs and drones

[limpid depot]

Kanto is Gen 1 not gen 6

[white jungle]

Ghetsis was more menacing though

[fierce shell]

Oh he said kanto

I misread

Giovanni is the same as joker

[white jungle]

Ghetsis successfully killed at least one child in at least one timeline and then threatened to kill another

[lament glen]

Lusamine is the only cool pokemon villain. But only because the Aether foundation battlethemes slap

[fierce shell]

Shouldn't be relavant but gets brought back because of legacy

I really like Guzma

[forest egret]

Me too

[smoky bison]

I liked Lusamine because waifu 😩

[forest egret]

Also, perhaps this is getting a little off topic now, #other-pokemon-games is a better place

[smoky bison]

Also her personality and actions are so much more believable than any other villain

my b

[limpid depot]

True
For like all the last few messages

[white jungle]

The virgin "I abuse my child, who is still certain about who they are in general, because I was driven insane by my work with aliens" Vs the Chad "I dehumanised my child who may be biological but everyone is sure is adopted so much that he believes he is inhuman and incapable of love. Also I kill kids, and I never get better because I don't want to. Fuck you."