#pokemon-winds-waves
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Everyone thought of a ghost pepper for the fire type
Also I just realized Quaxly isn’t flying type, which is kinda weird
Not really, every single bird starter hasn't been a Flying-type in its final form; Blaziken, Empoleon, Decidueye (twice) and potentially Quaxly now too. 🙂
Come to think of it, if it is Water/Fighting, we'll have a trio of Fighting-type starter birds, one of each type. 😄
But Rowlet was Grass/Flying as its first stage
If Quaxly has a bad ability
I think I'll simply die
All of the gen 8 starter hidden abilities were viable, even if Cinderace overshadowed the others
So I hope we keep that trend up
preferably, make their good hidden abilities their main abilities but nah we can't have good things
Make ability pills like grit rocks or something I don't know
I'm so sick of hidden abilities
I think PLA is funny because EVs almost certainly won't be made as easy going forward
Which means that the entire Sinnoh Dex and a bunch of others just became the easiest Pokémon to EV train
Including God
I never mentioned evolutions, I said Quaxly
And of the bird starters, Rowlett was grass/flying and the others were flightless birds
Quaxly can't fly because it's weighed down by all that drip
give all the starters super luck
easy way out
Oh I thought you were talking about the evolutions. Yeah, that is weird, come to think of it. Hopefully not a sign that we're in for another monotype trio like Gen VIII (still think we were robbed of a Grass/Rock and Fire/Electric with minor design tweaks, and a Water/Ghost trio). 😦
I didn’t play those games so I didn’t even know they were all monotype, I thought only gen 2 did that
rillaboom is insanely threatening with grassy glide + surge, not sure if it exactly got overshadowed
Still not as good as protean 2
and glide was a dlc move, before the dlcs it was pretty shit
inteleon’s is fun but hard to use
Inteleon as virtually nothing special about it and gets outclassed by a lot of other water types
"oh it can crit!" Critdra has existed for years now
Its a lot better with specs due to its low bulk, but its coverage is only decent and it can't really touch other water types well
But why would you want to use such an ugly Pokémon anyways
Because it is still the best design out of the gen8 starters 
lowkey I boxed my starter during my sw/sh playthrough lol
based decision
I picked Inteleon but thought it was pretty meh, but the design has grown on me over time. I think lanky spy gun chameleon is funny
I picked Grookey because Monke
Rillaboom is my favourite starter of all starters
Dinosaur chameleon
Yes
That’s better already
I mean I liked the sniper motif
There's just so many better ways they could have done it
Some chameleons even have horns! You're telling me they couldn't work out some sort of gun horn? Or some sort of crosshair?
They abandoned the chameleon inspo for the spy inspo instead of fusing them
Yes, exactly this would have been better. The design Shiro posted, but it lies down low on top of structures and snipes that way. 🙂
Quite interesting that theres channels for gen 9 is here yet we only have info on the starters and Pokémon and characters and locations seen in the trailers so far
It’s so the channel is ready for when they release more info so people don’t go spoiling stuff in other channels
And for me to be grumpy and hate the new pokemon games
And also, speculation about the starters or how they'll utilise Spain, or speculating about leaks and whatnot. 😄
if they wanted to keep the theme
Since it is a secret agent, it needs a swift silent get away
it can glide too
thats not flying but hawlucha is part flying type so
it counts i guess
thematically, dark makes a lot more sense, or even ghost
Oh no, evil agents! 
I like how the main thing in these redesigns is making it thicker than a twig
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/comments/udvj1o/new_leak_from_4chan_although_im_not_buying_it_to/
271 votes and 101 comments so far on Reddit
That's a fun concept atleast
nyooooom
Do you think people would be mad if Diglett got a 2nd regional
depends
does it have arena trap or is it useless
I was more thinking like
"Eugh he already has one and this is just more BLATANT gen 1 favouritism!"
you grow numb to it after a while
I genuinely hope meowth gets a regional in every new gen
eevee v2
that'dve needed to be a gigantamax
woops
wrong reply
I meant the diglett
./dugtrio
Maybe. I mean alolan exeggutor is alot bigger than kanto's so it would be fine
ngl
I much prefer this over fake corocoro
they have to put in more effort for the art to make it plausible
which
936 votes and 221 comments so far on Reddit
as it's so fucking controversial that it stays on it's forelegs that the internet would explode no-
oh
I did mean like
in an attempt to be convincing
should've been more specific
true haha
but yea like
nobody has actually done sprigatito yet for a serious leak
because everyone knows that that will make everyone believe it's fake, no matter what they do.
it's name comes from field+garden
Or Garra and Field
Speaking of that and back to Fuecoco3 this is very explicative about how diferent is GF ideas and fandom ideas
Fuecoco Final Evolution (2022) Chart Releases
https://t.co/RMzBZYPK3l
Fuecoco Evolves . . .🔥🐊
(POKEMON SCARLET & VIOLET)
꧁ What kind of Pokémon are you?! ꧂
Featuring the newly added "Z”. 👀❕
Now the answer gets wild:❔❔❔❔
#PokemonScarletViolet #Fuecoco #Gen9 #Starter
Not bad at all.
Found another about Sprigatito
Sprigatito Final Evolution (2022) Chart Releases
https://t.co/K23oqVWuNs
Sprigatito Evolves . . . 🍃😺
(POKEMON SCARLET & VIOLET)
꧁ What kind of Pokémon are you?! ꧂
CONFIRMED VIA AFFLECK SV (2022) LEAK 👀
The answer is: Z
#PokemonScarletViolet #Sprigatito #Gen9 #Starter
Do not stand
yeah preferably not stand
this one was ju one of the few well done stnading ones so it stood out
The pics of Sprigatito I put before reminds me when everybody expect that Litten evolve in to a fire Smilodon
Weird proportions were the biggest problem with my a number of Gen VIII designs; Inteleon and Enamorus are literally stick thin, I hope that's not a trend that continues. 😦
enamorus shouldve been buff
I agree, I'd say even more buff than the other three. It'd be funnier. 😄
well yeah
but its kinda bizarre seeing the three buff men
and then just like
the most
caricatured woman
like i get that the other genies are kinda caricatures too but its a bit diffferent
I know I'm a man so I don't really get a say, but I found Enamorus to be pretty sexist. 😅
nah as a woman adjacent i found it pretty sexist too
Unrelated, but with the starter evolution squares, for Fuecoco I really like D, I, J (though it looks like a Grass-type), K, O, Y and Z. For Sprigatito I liked A, B, H, M, O and S. 🙂
honestly i feel like the dedication of everyones fan evos to CAT MUST BE QUADRUPED THIS TIME is doing a bit more harm than good
i mean i guess none of the quadrupedal ones ive seen have really stood out to me
literally just cat with things on
you think gf will listen? lol
granted
but its just boring to look at
and see people going GAMEFREAK SHOULD HIRE THIS GUY
when its kjust
cat with flower butt
not even an interesting cat with flower butt
Is funny when we have Meowth, Perserkerr, Meowstic and Incineroar
yeah
like the posture of the thing is nowhere near as important as its impact
the things that set it apart
inci 🤢
the things that... you know, properly follow pokemons own method of making starters
[they purposefully avoid GUYS ANIMALS WITH PLANT ON]
I like Enamorus, mostly his Genbu Form
her
the turtle forms fine honestly s the thing
i just hate the incarnate form
Always have problem with His/Him/Her 😅
Look at the lil' fella vibe :)
Hands down, best ending.
Song remade by @8 Bit Universe
Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEQmhO26qrA
Stupid bot
i mean
leaks for the last 3 games were all posted on 4chan first
that ones almost def fake tho
Better than incineroar
Lol
I gotta admit
I too am in the field of "keep it quadrupedal" but only because of some reasons
I'm in the field of "I'd love to see it quadrupedal but it'll probably be another furry"
I'm in the field of "I don't give a shit about it being quadrupedal, just don't make it a sabertooth"
Iberian Lynx is right there and represents Spain
I know there's an extinct theme going on, but Iberian Lynx is critically endangered anyway
And frankly the starter themes are often inaccurate and just serve to make speculation and new ideas more boring
Porcupine equates to rat, seal equates to club
I haven't seen a Sabertooth based Sprigatito evolution that doesn't look boring. As it was said, they're just cats with flowers on them
But I think the Iberian Lynx does good on the Spanish theme, is a more unique Pokémon design and also fits Sprigatito's design with the little face tufts
If they were gonna hammer home on all the grass types being extinct, I don't want a cat with long teeth. I'd rather have cool extinct animals, like a Stegosaurus, or a giant ground sloth
Hell, even a wooly rhino
All of which actually relate to plants already and could have great designs with a grass-type appearance
They could do good stuff with this
And I'm not saying this in a "it won't be a sabertooth, don't be stupid, I'M right" way, because my FEAR is that I'm wrong and they will go for a sabertooth tiger
But everyone is expecting them to either make it pretty and bipedal, or make it a super bulky quadraped
I'm perfectly fine with something smaller and less menacing, like a Lynx
Because "tiny cute thing → big intimidating thing" has kind of been overdone
(this was in an image higher up)
It's not perfect by any means, but I prefer this to all the Very Large Cat With Leaves On It options
Every single fan design has been a lynx
They all look pretty boring, just a green furry big cat with something random sticking out of it
The flower ones look good, the problem is that every fab design is extremely similar
why not combining both? that's what Pokemon usually do, combine stuff
Maybe, but as I said I haven't liked any of the Sabertooth designs that people have put forward
I'd like to see it being a sabertooth because all grass starters are based on the extinct creatures that aren't fossilized, and sabertooth is such a nice possibility for that. if they find anything cooler than that, I won't mind at all, but combining any extinct cat with lynx or lion (or both? but Luxray already does that) would be amazing to see
I'm still waiting for a grass dodo starter 
I believe they didn't think about going the chineese zodiac way back in gen 2 and just decided that Cyndaquil is enough to be counted as a rat, and they never went with "all water starters are weapons" thing, idk who even guessed and distributed this idea. Water starters are always simply aquatic creatures
they just probably will make a dolphin or idk an eel or a sea snake starter someday and not a water dog or a water molecule 
Sadly is more difficult do a recognizable Lynx that a recognizable Lion or tiger or cheetah
I think it's head and ears shape is pretty recognizable
maybe they can utilize lynx's huge paws too
idk about Ibearian lynxes specifically but where I live they have huge paws that work as snowshoes
so I just automatically think that all lynxes do a similar thing and I'm probably totally wrong 
All Lynx are very similar I guess but if I remember correctly Iberian Lynx are a bit smaller
And just eat rabbits 😅
Gorillas are extinct? 😮
Rillaboom's based os some exting species that is somehow reated to England I believe
I might be wrong and it can be literally any big extinct monke
but I believe I heard something about it
Bulbapedia just mentions a possible relation to Gigantopithecus
I think that's them grasping at straws to keep the ancient thing going. I think Decidueye is pushing it, and doesn't seem to be related to anything ancient. 😛
Decidueye is clearly related to the extinct hawaiian long legged owl tho
especially how it's a regular owl in it's 1st and 2nd form and then suddenly long-legged and ghost-typed in it's 3rd form
ifunny moment btw
Yeah lol
this is a monkey which kinda looks like an orangutan if you have some imagination, and did indeed go extinct thousands of years ago it's also what they based king louie on in the live action Jungle Book movie, as orangutans aren't native to india
huh I never knew that about king Louie
Ah, I just missed that part somehow. 😂
Although the Ghost-type is suspected to be because its reminiscent of the pueo owl, which is a common manifestation of Hawaiian ancestral spirits. Otherwise all the others would be Ghost-types for the same reason. 😅
I just always guess that Pokemon have 1000 hidden inspirations after watching Lockstin vids
I never knew how cool Sneasler's inspirations are before watching one
now I feel even better for liking it 
can they not mix that an a sabertooth or make the fur bits teethlilke?
I just think a bulky Sabertooth is a bad idea with the designs I've seen, and especially as Incineroar is already a tiger. I'm aware that we're getting a repeated animal with Fuecoco, but we don't actually know where that line is going yet, and it already looks a lot different to Totodile
Plus it could be argued that Feraligatr is just that, an alligator
Fuecoco might stay crocodilian
I do think Smilodon is an animal name that would be easy to pokemon-ise though, to be fair
I think that Sprigatito would be more similar to Liepard that to Incineorar. I mean, in the same way that Rillaboom and Infernape are very different
Even if Incineroar and Cinderace are not Fire/Fighting they still are Fire/Fighting 😅
fire fighting finalstage fuecoco let's goooo
wouldnt need to be bulky to be a sabertooth
mmm more green cats
more leaks from Riddler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Ao6I2TkA8
Allow the dumbness bro, part 2 soon
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How could I not know, i've only gotten dumber with age
I wanna click that video but I also wanna stay unspoiled
the duality of man
On one hand the starter I choose is gonna be based on what it evolves into, on the other hand I don't want to find out what said evolutions are
I want to find out what the new pokemon are so I can plan a team, but not much else
Same
To be short, the riddle's related to ||Tauros, Miltank and Bouffalant|| and no one knows what exactly it means yet. Perhaps ||a pre-evo or new forms|| or something
Wild card, the new gimmick is fusion
IF is real 
Then this game gets nuked by Nintendo

I do hope the new gimmick has new forms or something though...
Sick of like
"one-time funneee move!!"
Or "it big now!!"
Bring me back to what I like
I'm a simple man
Could be a time travel mechanic
Seems weird given that we JUST got an isekai game
But if that's like
What Pokémon is doing going forward with all the wormhole stuff
Then it would check out
Ultra Wormholes? 🤔
There are bound to be revisits/remakes of BW at some point because we're progressing towards that point in the remake timeline (I believe Soul Silver and Heart Gold comes next in the order)
But I do wonder if Ingo is gonna be like
The Easter egg leading up to it
Or if he's just kinda on his own spiritual journey
He feels too niche for Nintendo to have just chosen him at random
But does that also make him too niche a person for them to choose to lead into the gen 5 revisit?
Or did they just decide to take a chance and it worked out well?
Because by God, don't get me wrong it works
Even as a lover of gen 5 I barely knew about Ingo's existence before
But now he's lost in time, his brothers probably worried sick, his Pokémon may well be abandoned
He's balding
I'm INVESTED in this man
Goes to show how well it works out when Gamefreak decides to do something unexpected
I'm so excited for ||Bouffalant||, it hasn't got NEARLY enough recognition as a p cool mon for a ||normal|| type
In fact it used to be one of my favorites
Also
, possibly a common prevo for all three which could be a really cool precedent
Yea it's a neat but forgettable mon, I'd love to see it being used more
Exactly. It's not the type to get a mega or regional but it could at least be given a prevo or story significance
Also, you can always tell that I'm hyped to see any ||Miltank|| related action 
I'm not as polarized as ||MandJTV|| about ||Miltank|| but it was never really one of my favorites personally
I wouldn't get your hopes up
It's a Spanish region, they're ||cattle||
The news might be that you get to brutally kill them
I just find it really cute and all this ||udders|| hating stuff is funny 
It may be anything, yea
Probably not that since it's a kids game after all
But whenever ||cow mons|| get mentioned usually it's only ||Tauros|| and ||Miltank|| that get mentioned so any ||Bouffalant|| recognition as the other ||cow mon|| is p cool
I don't think the disturbing thing about ||Miltank|| is the ||udders|| I think it's that it's vaguely humanoid WITH ||udders||
That being said, I stand firm with what I've said in the past about liking all the weird humanoid Mons that a lot of people hate
They raise questions, they disturb people, and I love them for that
I can't imagine a ||cow|| without ||udders|| in any format unless it's a smol child ||cow||
like whenever people make a common prevo they usually only use the first 2 for some reason, despite there being a much better chance that ||Bouffalant|| and ||Tauros|| are related than ||Tauros|| and ||Miltank||
||Miltank|| is ||bipedal|| and stuff but I wouldn't say its that ||humanoid||
||Tauros|| and ||Miltank|| are both ||cows|| but that's really where the similarities stop, however ||Tauros|| and ||Bouffalant|| are both ||brown bulls that have fluff near their head and neck area||
Yea I can see your point Pengu
So... with that whole Pokemon "evolution" theory pairing THOSE two instead of THESE two makes no sense
Connect all 3 
See, Gardevoir doesn't have boobs because it's based on a knight, and traditionally knights were male. That being said, the majority of experience people have with knights nowadays is fantasy and in fantasy a lot of knights are women with big ol' milkers so I say Gamefreak oughtta bite the bullet and give it boobs. THAT'S how you fix the competitive scene.
Also all I said was that I didn't like ||Miltank||, I didn't mean to start a war. I just personally don't like it, it's not that I find it unsettling or ||nsfw||... jeez
It's not a war hahaha I just mentioned how I find all this funny
Because what do we know about sweaty competitive players? Love sexy Gardevoir. They'll be too distracted to abuse overpowered strategies well.
And then it'll
I was
I had a point.
I know I did.
epoch you're kinda going on a tangent here that I'm not sure I support 
I stand by my thesis.
Overpowered Mons will always exist, so we simply need to render their users non functional
The alternative is that we take out hits on competitive players that get too good
anyways, bottom line, ||Miltank|| is fine, not the best, not the worst, and those three should have been paired up the whole time instead of just ||Miltank|| and ||Tauros||
Break their arms
I know it stands up and is like on par sentience with humans
I'd still ||drink moomoo milk|| tbh
That shit sounds delicious
spoiler this, people will know what mon we're talking about without this spoilered
Well now they will
Before it could have just been a tangent
And now that I've censored it, it looks like the most perverted start to a sentence ever
Yeah but you ranted about gardevoir tiddy so you're already in too deep now
It's not for me it's for BALANCE
It's for Low.
Low wants the Gardevoir titty.
It will solve the problems.
Why would I want Gardevoir titty
For one, it's purely for balance, which I don't care about
For two
It's not Haxorus
I don't need a wife, I already have the perfect companion
A dinosaur with axes taped to its face
It's right up there with a Chimpanzee holding an automatic rifle
I find this interesting, but also think that people don’t know how Pokémon works if really think that we will have a english name that include so clearly words like Sagrado(sacred) or Crux
I don't think "spirit" is the type, it would give whatever type the pokemon is
ik, but conceptually
lorewise ghost types have already been able of inhabiting other pokemon
I imagine this is more esoteric than just ghost possesion. Though tbf that part sounds kinda fake to me overall so who knows
ik the gimmicks added each generation since gen 6 have completely taken over the metagame but like
no starter evos are a bold move, doubt GF has any balls to do so
this sounds like it will make it way too complicated
i think he means no starter evos will be shown in the trailer
Yeah that's what I think too
would make sense then
no starter evos would be like game freak only making 2 gyms
i mean
completely absurd
i wouldnt doubt that
at some point they are going to hit rock bottom, creatively wise
No starter evos would mean that either they'd become useless very quickly, or they'd be too strong for pokemon you recieve first
or they have a weird ass ability that changes their forms depending on their level
which would be evolution but with extra steps
Lol, yeah I don't think doing that would be ballsy, more like stupid, really
they dont need to take down xenoverse for that
xenoverse has no legal copyright
so game freak can copy as much as they want from it since xenoverse was created under the name pokemon
yes but have you heard of the buggy mess, pokemon uranium
...what?
yea
that's
such a stupid reasoning. That cant be the real reason
uranium aint even remotely close to hawaii
hell, it's closer to kanto and the sevii islands
tell your theory why it was taken down then, when rewjuv and rewborn are still alive and well
Because using paid link I think
that's the most reasonable argument
yeah but patreons are donations
having to pay for fanmade pokemon content is against nintendo's copyright law
any fanmade content is alright until people start making money with it
patreon doesnt make money?
it's also why super flash fighters i believe was taken down after a tournament was hosted for it where the winners received prize money
patreon is a donation
if they had for example put a fangame behind someone's patreon, and you wouldn't be able to play without paying for said patreon, then that content would be taken down
I believe Uranium specifically caught Nintendo's attention because of how big it was, sites like Kotaku reported on it and those articles went viral, one thing lead to another and the Uranium devs removed their download links and stuff
emphasis on their download links
the community is still active
and so called illegal links still exist and are easy to find
Indeed. We're a little off track of SV stuff now though, probably should continue in #other-pokemon-games if anyone's gonna add more onto Uranium talk
aight
speaking of scarlet and violet
im betting on a regional mandibuzz or a new vulture pokemon
because griffon vultures are pretty important in spain
It would be pretty cool, it could match the fact that Braviary has a regional now
another fighting/flying mon would be cool
but then id prefer it as a standalone pokemon
instead of another regional with that typing
they could also do what they did for centiskorch and scolipede, have pokedex entries state that they have a common ancestor
Is a hint for regional Dragonite I guess
would be cool imo
A tentacruel evo sounds like it'd be pretty strong
His BST is already 515 so if that were to get added, how much stronger could it get
Like Ursaluna I guess
vega with Tentyrant
water/dark
keeping water poison would be far more beneficial for a defensive mon like tenta
or is this gonna be a galarian corsola situation
this also means that cruel can use eviolite
That's what I was thinking too
yeah, that's the big fear
it largely depends on what type the regional tentacruel will be
because regular tentacruel with eviolite would just be a specially defensive toxapex with decent special attack
which is scary
It'd have decent physical defence too, and its HP is higher than Toxapex
Not a fan of the "spirit Pokémon" leak.
Another limited-time thing
I just find that stuff kinda boring
Plus the idea of a third typing system doesn't sound great for a game primarily aimed at kids?
We'll have to wait until friday to see if its even true
"hey seven year old work this shit out"
All of this could just be the ramblings of a crazy person
Yeah
Honestly I'd rather they skip a gimmick entirely and give us double the regional forms than give us another limited-turn gimmick
Because at least regional forms give you a permanently cool new thing
gimmick of gen 9: reflect type but it's an item
Gimmick of gen 9: The trainer can step in and fight
would be fun if the trainer this gen was a wimpy ass school kid
i want to play as a buff guy who wrestles with pokemon
gimmick of gen 9: third type + mega+ dynamax + z move in one single item 
Riddler said that the gimmick of the game is a japanese letter that means "three"
What does it mean? Yes
Because it's a riddle

Well that thing above mentions three types for three turns, so hmmm, if nothing else there's that connection
Riddler khu?
Cuz that guy is trustworthy
Three turns seems to be the most obvious gimmick here, but the execution of it is still a mystery
tbf they have been having game just tell you what moves are gonna hit for not very effective super etc
Yea, the guy who leaked the entire legends arceus
If you missed the vids I posted here, he also made a riddle about possibly ||Tauros, Miltank and Bouffalant||
It would make sense
One of the theories is a prevo for tauros, miltank and boufallant and a snubbul regional
Bouffalant is not related to Miltank and Tauros though
A buffalo is not the same thing as a cow
if it's real and parasir ends up halfway decent in terms of stats or gets a better typing it is a mon with spore
might even end up as the first spore mon with 500+ bst which would be interesting
If it's still grass/bug it still won't be any good
Unless it gets more than double parasect's speed
chlorphyll
Base 40 speed with chlorophyll is still bad, especially with grass/bug typing
Spore stalls out your own sun turns and steel types wall you completely
give it Prankster
prank spore, only thing that can stop you is dark or a grass type 
Buffalos and Cows are both bovidae
That’s not the same species though
if the prevolution is an auroch then sure
Or they could just stick to the male and female cow Pokémon
I'd like if Sunflora got a Grass/Fire evolution, something like Sunferno or Apollanthus. I think we all know that it's a useless, useless Pokémon as is. 😦
If we're evolving useless pokemon
Dear God
Ledian
I did not know how bad it was until I looked at its stats
Good design, it looks cool
Awful, awful stats
I remember a video by pokemon challenges where he only used the worst pokemon in an emerald nuzlocke, and Ledian was still useless
Yeah… yeah. lol
Every punching move in the game and access to Iron Fist.
Still has 15 base ATK iirc
Masquerain gain a important sum of stats in Alola. I wish Ledian and Ariados have something similar
Right?
35
Which is still pretty bad, even unevolved starters hit harder than that. They don't even have to make it strong just give it literally anything
It should get an evolution which is just like
A ladybug version of the generic "punch fast" anime protagonist
Alot of fan evos go the Super Sentai route and I like that
This is Ledian
#MetalGearRisingRevengeance
Bad Edit, FML :)
➠Song: It Has To Be This Way (Platinum Remix) - Jimmy Gnecco
Honestly at this point I’d be happy if they threw 20 points into its SPD and called it a day. lol
But then again, you’ve seen my username, I use Ledian anyway. :proud:
Oh god. lmao
Its evolution has the ability Requiem: this pokemon cant be damaged
Is this one of these Jojo’s bizarre adventure references?
Yup!
Pidgey 2 in pkmn scharlet violet
Where is the weed
That would actually be pretty dope imo
I have these guys all around my backyard and they just give off those common pokemon vibes
One of the riddles got solved https://youtu.be/1gsbw1nv3C4
All the riddles are solved now.. now we wait for the official trailer to see if it's really real..
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I can't tell if I want a quagsire or whiscash evo more..
I'd rather wait to see if anything is true first before I go and beleive any leaks
I've grown up in the Gen 4-6 era of strange 'leaks'
These are from riddler khu
The man who leaked all the new pokemon and forms in pokemon legends arceus a month before it came out
And he got them all perfectly right
Yea, Riddler leaked the whole Legends Arceus (ALL forms, plot, gameplay mechanics, all that stuff) but he does that through riddles so it's more interesting to think about
riddle me this, pokemon fan. What white and furry bait, and can only be found in gen eight?
My nuts
why are your nuts furry bait
Gotta cast a wide net
Cinderace Grandma professor
Yes
well pokemonwise mainyl hoping I like fuecoco evo
game itself wise I have a lot of concerns/hopes
Also the top 8 in Journeys. 😅
another way of looking at it, is instead of one of the water/ground types getting a different form, it would be a pokemon becoming a water/ground type
Water/Ground type Slaking let's go
Sheer force liquidation stab
(this hypothetical Slaking has sheer force)
what if, gorilla tactics though
would have way lower stats if it wasnt gonna have anegative ability
yeah, but gen 2, 3, 4, and 5 are the ONLY ones with Water/Ground ones.
Fake
is this the same dude who made regional diglett?
no it's not my dad is a janitor in nintendo of china
no that's from my mothers aunt's cousin's best friend who works at sega
That leak came from my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate
Yes. Has that “Sick” look (?)
Snot is a lot grosser than just having parts colored purple though
leak (leak)
This leak better be real those final evos look sick 
There's a leak that the mythical pokemon will be the ruler of taxes
Finally, justification for capturing them and throwing them in the pc
Surely Fake again but I prefer see good fakemon that impossible riddles
How to make fake leaks
- Draw a cool fakemon sketch with some japanese words next to it
- Take a shitty picture
And you're done
Could be real, it's another Pikachu, gamefreak loves those
And rabbits are very typical in Spain
the riddler stuff all seems like bullshit to me
although, he leaked the whole legends arceus and top 8 trainers in anime, so whatever he says is probably true, even if it's a too complicated riddle 
^^^^^ this
He has more than proven his credibility
Im hoping the water/ground riddle ends up being whiscash
I want to see it not be shit, because it is by far the worst water/ground type
Eh, why not, give people something fun to play around with
Better than just directly leaking everything out there
Would be better if there were no leaks for course. Tho pokemon at least isnt a story game, so nothing to be ruined there
The only good leaks are when the game gets dumped online a week before release, because people can then take an actual look at them game and make an educated purchase decision. Which has sadly become necessary with some of the trash GameFreak has released recently
I always go with "if you don't like it, you can ignore it" argument when something like this happens
Like, we put unofficial leaks in spoilers for a reason here 
Ofc there are people who don't give a crap about hiding their spoilers but the problem is about them more than about the leaks
I don’t know we had to put in Spoiler here, sorry
It's not a rule or anything but we do that with unofficial leaks in case people only want to see the official info/leaks here
But I was talking more about much bugger stuff like youtube video previews and stuff
Like, things that you can't avoid
most all the leaks have seemed pretty fake so far but best to spoiler em just inc ase or if people just dont wana ahve it affect expectations at all
As much as I love the design, it's almost definitely fake. The reference artwork isn't usually Sugimori-like, more anime-like. 😄
that's how alolan starters evos were leaked so people continue to follow this format
they were references for the anime iirc
Yeah exactly (I think Ash was in one of the Alolan ones), that's how you know Sugimori art is a surefire sign of a fake. 🙂
I wasn't old enough to be on the internet when Unova leaks were coming out
But the fact that the silhouettes got leaked for the starters
And people essentially coloured them in
Is fucking hilarious to me
They weren't leaked, they were officially teased. 😅
Either way, funny as fuck
Classic fakes. 🙂
I still love how they got the typing right on the left one. lol
Like bruh, I don't come here for correct takes, get this weak stuff out of here. 😂
What if Quaxly just pulls a fast one on us and becomes a platypus
Water/Poison platypus would be cool, but it's not happening. 😅
@wanton idol You in another lifetime. 😛
Now that I think about it
A really funny way of doing a platypus would be a regional Ducklet variant
With a different Evo line
I lowkey want them to make a Grass-type Platypus.
True
katten true form?
heres leaks from me
New riddles about cover legends and the overall games motif https://youtu.be/neF_idIo9WI
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I'm just messing around i have fun with the riddles
heres my twitter its has leaks for sv https://twitter.com/keon76252752/status/1525282293115498498
Gonna be some real pokehogwarts shit
Up to and including the fucked up slavery plot, Mr Mime are the house elves
I will be rather sad if you cannot join spider house.
I love how he tries to discover the meaning behind the shitpost-like picture of the handicapped dog 
lmfao yes
Yes. Of course
another regional diglett?
or maybe evolution
or any other mon with the same concept
A regional with a different evolution could be cool
I mean it would be awesome for it to actually be a big strong evolution instead of being a regional diglett which is still weak but big
Mega diglett pls
I would love watch Digglet Evolve into a “traditional” Mole
Some people say RF can mean: Real Form Like Alola Exeguttor or Galarian Zigzagoon
Serebii Update: The next Pokémon Scarlet & Violet information will be revealed on June 1st at 22:00 JST/14:00 BST / 15:00 CET / 09:00 EDT / 06:00 PDT https://t.co/gDbXkHSvkT
I just rewatched the second swsh trailer out of curiosity
It revealed 5 new mons, no regional forms, wild area, dynamax gimmick, the first gym leader and the legendary wolfs
I wonder what the sc/vi second trailer will be like
Hmmm, I wonder what will come of this
Regional Dunsparce I hope. If 4th gen have something I don,t like is they ruined Many Pokemon giving them ugly evolution
I'd prefer a regional too. Dunsparce evo could mean it becomes an Angel Dragon like all the fan-designs and I'd rather not see that become real
Dusparce also have potential to be a subterrestrial and scary dragon
But
If we are talking about “Spanish Dunsparce”
I was talking about the dragon 😅
But can combine both, I guess, in a shy Dunsparce that people found cute and feeling that popularity gain the Dragon/Fairy type
I hope they add a bicycle pokemon
i hope they add a new meowth regional
Damn
I hope we get mega pikachu
and mega gigantamax pikachu
I hope we get a regional Sudowoodo which is a grass type 🤓
Hate a lot of grass type Bonsly/Sudowoodo ideas. Sometimes a mega concept is rock/grass which isn't awful but it's like
Kinda missing the entire point
Hope we get a new Wonder Guard user.
It'd be nice to see oricorio again, maybe have a gym leader with similar aesthetics to the fire form
What about a wonder guard user who's like
An ice or grass type
So that it can actually have more than 1 health
it having 1 health is the point though
Eh, outside of a regional Shedinja it just seems too samey

Beserk was a good de-unique ability with Goltress, but agreed
eh, there's just some abilities that look pretty generic and it's ok to de-unique them, like Berserk or Fur Coat, while other are very Pokemon-specific and they better stay unique like Wonder Guard or, let's say, Hunger Switch
Hunger Switch is a bad ability 
Honestly yeah some signature abilities are really more,,, mon specific, than others
Like I couldn't see Stance Change getting passed around much but stuff like Dazzling or Fluffy?
Stance change could work for all sorts of fighting and steel types, anything that has different fighting styles.
Though the wording would have to be changed to be more generalized
That's like saying Hunger Switch can work for any mon that eats though
It's integral and specifically built for one specific mon
Nothing else can really do anything with it unless you, again, make it specifically built for and integral to it
Yeah I could technically do it but it requires a lot more specification and thought vs say, "Fluffy Mareep"
Yet, multiple pokemon get Power Trick, which is the attack move precedent for Stance Change. Though I admit it seems more likely that a given pokemon would get Power Trick in their movepool instead of some similar version of Stance Change.
they havent put up the livestream yet right
Doesn't seem like it
sooon
Soon
2 minutes
I don't remember how it was for SwSh, but perhaps its just a video rather than a stream
Wait it that close?
they might do that
its just a trailer or a pokemon direct pls?
Trailer
ok thanks
link?
✔️ New Pokémon
✔️ New Professors
✔️ New trailer
The wait is over, Trainers — the latest Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet trailer is finally here!
❤️💜
new mon
y my pp hard 
coop tho??? That could be interesting
Pokemon ara and bara versions
They look just like the new elder dragons from Monster Hunter Rise
Best
Who would call their pokémon "Lechonk"?? 
I am le chonk mon
I will kill for smolive
Which???? 👀
Lechonk 100%
Good 
I have a few questions tho, why do the legends have a motor wheel in their torsos
the multiplayer seems like a neat feature that I will never use
Here's the art of the humans
why u gotta ruin my moment xillo
ye
Serebii Picture: Official artwork of Smoliv, a Grass/Normal-type Pokémon https://t.co/NWlAdn57aQ

t-minus until porn: five minutes
Small olive, hell yeah
Because it is smol 
Le Chonk
imma get to spriting these then
YOOOO WTF THE LEGENDARY LOOKS AMAZING
Lizzard
GRASS/NORMAL 
furry bait-
I insist on saying they would look better without those motor wheels
Pokemon Truckers version
I wanna know what they're based on
Violet > scarlet
same
I know they've both got like vehicle parts but I imagine there's some sort of deeper origin maybe
i like the electric dragoon
Red one looks...off
The problem is, I like the scarlet professor better. Of course, I usually don't use the legendaries much.
The professor on scarlet is 😳
depending on other exclusives I'll go for violet too
((and I was hoping they'd reveal the region gimmick))
Also toxapex in the game = good game
But did you see Clauncher in the back??? 
I like the open world pokecenter kiosks, really streamlines exploring.
Byeah
The legendaries names on the site are Koraidon and Miraidon
guys which size is better
I love this lil guy
im so ready to sprite these pokemon lmfao
"Ancient lizard" "Future lizard"
Interesting
Explains why there's cave woman prof and Tron prof
So that seems to be the established theme of the game then, an Old vs New, Past vs Future thing
wasn't that black & white's theme also kinda
Thiccle
Nah, Black and White's theme was Truth vs Ideals
Katten speedrun
KATTEN MOMENT
I want Lechonk so badly
Same
time to wait for someone to make a 8 hours video about 2 mins
Yeah
So this was referring to Lechonk then I guess, nice
Rewatching the trailer
how was that a riddle tho
And qwilfish is confirmed in
Literally just "yeah we will have a pig-esque Pokemon"
Qwilfish ? 👀
Alot of his stuff isn't riddles lol, idk why he calls himself that
Alot of it just "here's a tiny piece of an image I'm leaking" like wow cool riddle
The name of the professors are really good
The new mon was soo cute
Sada comes from passada which means past and Turo comes from Futuro which means Future
qwilfish just floatin' around, having a good time
Oh right
LECHONK
RIP trees. 
Pawmi is the pikaclone, right?
Yes
It'll evolve though. 🙂
It's your Rival's signature, like Morpeko
Miraidon's my favourite legendary in a while. ❤️
They're totally gonna be rideable
I like that Lechonk is specifically a truffle pig
It's in the name, Mi-RIDE-ON. 😅
Take me to smoliv garden
I honestly thought it was a regional budew at first
Yeah same
there is definitely going to be a motorcycle the player can ride by combining the two legendaries
They ride them into the past and future
I really hope they build upon the multiplayer aspect a lot. Not that fake shit from Sw/Sh. Connect with friends on the spot and battle/trade with them in the overworld and maybe even PvE shit
it looks like they can literally just go around in the same world doing whatever, like a mini-MMO which is cool
Strange that they didn't unveil the mega-evolution esque gimmick considering it's already been lraked
Regardless, so excited for Morbin' forms
Only a morbillion times
I'm looking forward to having a cool girl rival, it'll be a breath of fresh air after the hot blooded bumblekings we've been getting.
gonna start over
Wow
Le pige
I like all designs so far
I feel like the legendaries are gonna get a lot of shit but I really like them tbh
Especially with the possibility of them representing modern/old or future/past
As a dude who lives in the Iberian Peninsula these feel like dudes who could live here
I'm also not sure if they will be, but they look like dragon types, and I welcome that
There is on average 5 miraidons near you at all times
I like Xerneas and Yveltal but the dragon legendaries were peak box legends
Yes, and 6 koraidons as well
There is a ad in game about it sooo... maybe
Pokémon Colloseum
Wait we know what the gimmick is?
Morbin
Morbin' makes me feel good
Yeah it's Morbin
You give your Pokémon a blood transfusion and it morbs out
So, what animal is Pawmi supposed to be specifically
Blood vials
Would you be upset if there wasn't a new mechanic? I think I wouldnt mind
only complain i have is, the pokecenters looks bad
Bloodmon pokeborne when
I wouldn't be upset if there wasn't a new battle mechanic, put it that way
I just want berry pots back
I wonder, is the co-op supposed to be the gimmick
Honestly I'm very much of the opinion that megas need to return for battles because they were simple, cool, and still had a lot of potential. I'd rather that over a new battle mechanic.
I want megas for lower powered pokemon. Mega Beedrill is exactly what I want more of.
But I'd definitely still want something new overall. I could see there being maybe a time based mechanic, for example, but I'm not sure how well that would work, especially given that PLA basically had its own form of time travel with the rifts.
I want cooler PvE content mostly. Something like the Totem Pokemon/raid battles 'n stuff
I think if it's an open world mechanic, it would be cool to see something that can't just be done in specific places
I'd rather have a thing you could do anywhere
Epic
There's a thing that Khu posted that may be what the types are for the starters, and people seem to be guessing water/fighting for Quaxly's evo, maybe this helps add to that
What's the green post in the poke center?
But yeah, battle mechanics? Honestly feeling a little overdone ATM, especially with everything feeling like an inferior form of megas. Some Z-moves were cool but 90% of them were just a stronger attack with no special effect, and dynamax was honestly kind of a let down. For how cool Gigantamax forms are, they barely matter.
The best gimmicks have been the ones that add entirely new forms, like regionals and megas. Maybe something akin to regionals with a more time-travel based theme?
Like future forms and past forms of Pokémon
If something like future and past forms worked like megas i wouldn't be mad at all
I was thinking more like regionals but either works
Like permanent new versions instead of a temporary form switch
Permanent could also be fun
But maybe I'm in the wrong, because admittedly regionals, past forms and future forms would be a lot of new not-new Pokémon which could get not fun very fast
I can see it working! I just don't want gen 1 Pokémon to be remade for the 300th time y'know?
Real cool
Plus future/past forms could put Hisuian Mons in a weird position. Ideally "past" forms would be way older than a few centuries ago, but Hisuian Mons are still technically a past form so where would that put them?
Still, I think it would be a cool concept and could even go pretty hard with the pokedex entries if it detailed the nature of certain changes
Like say you had a wailord past form based on those pre-whales that had legs
Why? What's that about? Pokedex can tell you
Probably won't happen, but I'd love to go through a portal to ancient times and see stuff like bug/water Kabuto
I like the past/future or ancient/modern themes they're going for
Past/future forms could also open up the way for more legendary variants, just saying
we could finally get Regigigas in its prime
OH SHIT
It would've been cool, but I believe Crown Tundra has confirmed the fossilization doesn't make them rock type, they're just like that
Slaking past form but the entire line is based on giant ground sloths
We could get a Metagross Future variant which is based on sci-fi space travel and is a special attacker instead
I mean yeah, but I think that's because so many have been resurrected
My question is how the themes of old and new or past/future are gonna fit with the setting of you being a whole schoolchild
The idea behind Kabutops and Omanyte being in the crown tundra is that Calyrex safeguarded a few of them, which implies they've always been rock type, and the "reviving turns pokemon to rock" doesn't have any actual evidence behind it, people just assume its the case
more work
they added another sus pokemon
Another pig
Awesome work
Full of oil
@sterile garnet just like norway
yes
Nice
i like the pig, the pig is my boy and I love him
pig
am i the only one who likes the scarlet one more
I think I like that one more too yeah
That primal vibe is so cool
yEEEEEES
Both are really cool, to be honest. It's a great duo. 😄
Ye, they're both nice
I wonder what their types are, has that been revealled somewhere yet or no
I can imagine electric/steel for the future dude maybe
I think it's dragon/fight and dragon/electric
Ah so they're both dragon, nice
Like the riddles are suggesting
There's no way Miraidon isn't Electric. 🙂
he could totally be steel though
I'm slightly disappointed by the typings for the other dudes so far, pure electric pikaclone and 2 normal types, I hope that changes with evos
Grass/Normal is cool though, better than another small mono-Grass-type. 🙂
I'm convinced that the Pikaclone will evolve though. 😄
Would that make it the first pikaclone to do that? That'd be cool
Depends on if you count Marill. 😛
Was gonna say, idk if I count Marill since it's water but idk
I was hoping Lechonk would be a ground type since it's a truffle pig
probably evo
I expect it will be. 🙂
I hope lechonk wont evolve in something ugly though
It might just be a weirdly placed thing but I'm assuming it's meant to be eye crust
And a dirty face
I think it's just meant to be eyebags like what alot of hogs have
||The opposite is expected to happen.
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So I'm thinking maybe ground type with some sort of reference to the Sandman?
Big leap but might as well guess something interesting
The yellow is probably just for like a bit of extra design flair but I think it's meant to give off this sorta impression
Maybe, but it's the way it sort of forms a drop shape coming out from the corner
welp never evolving my LeChonk
Plus the gold colour seems like an intentional thing
apparently Lechonk isnt fat, he has pure muscle under that hide and he gets spooked easily
So I could see it being a ground type with an eye sand thing going on
It may appear fat at first glance, but in reality, the Pokémon’s body is mostly muscle built by constantly walking around in search of food.```
It'd be a weird theme to introduce, since the things we know from the site seem to suggest it's not gonna go that direction yeah
Lechonk could maybe get a split evo, would be cool
Ground/fighting could be cool
I know it being an early Pokémon means normal will probably be tacked on
But Timburr was also a pretty early Pokémon
Ah now I know what the legends make me think of ... Kommo-o
that was cause it was a machop reference
Could also be either weak to or strong against bug types
The aroma thing could go either way
Because it could just be to signify it being good against bugs, but if it were weak to bug the aroma would protect it a little
Oh god wait
Stink brought about by food
Please don't make it a fart pig
I feel like Scarlet and Violet are going back to the Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee style, which I really love 😊
Please don't give us a fucking fart pig gamefreak
LeFart
Please he's so good as he is don't give us a gassy hog
LeStink
Lol, well the site says "radiates" so I think it's just its odor, rather than fart stuff
let's hope it is just flavor text
Just saying perfect time for Pokepark 3 cough cough
Games currency is berries, new Pokémon is good at sniffing out berries that's a good npc
also do you think pokemon will follow? The starters and pikachu did in the trailer when doing co-op
I'd say almost guaranteed yes
Scarlet and Violet seems like the culmination of stuff from PLA, Sword and Shield, etc
finally it is weird it took so long, going to 3d + dexit should have made this easier
it does? havent played it
Yeah it's bullshit
oh right the dlc havent watched the dlc at all XD
Yeah I think they specifically restricted it to the wild area in the DLC
After seeing someone beat all the gyms I lost interest in swsh
OKAY BUT REAL TALK IM GENUINELY PRETTY WORRIED THAT WE DIDN'T SEE ANY OUT OF BATTLE CATCHING
probably will be like the normal games though
IN FACT WE LITERALLY SAW SOMEONE APPROACH A SMOLIVE AND THEN IT CUT TO A BATTLE WITH SMOLIVE
Fucking bullshit if we don't get that stuff back
I dont mind the old method though
what pokemon is all about battle to catching
I do, it sucks balls
no no you do it wrong you throw them, not suck them
they werent gonna be able to integrate stuff like that this soon afte ranyways these wer ebuilt at same time and they would wait for response before changing formula widlly like that
PLA literally introduced the only catching system that makes it worthwhile to catch more than a handful of Pokémon
it did seem like maybe ya got an auto crit capture if ya snuck up though
