That could be interesting
#pokemon-winds-waves
echo dawn
fickle birch
I mean it's possible, they could add it or change stuff later in the story when you discover more about the type. It's just not likely from what we know right now. 😂
I'd love to be surprised though. 😄
echo dawn
If they were to do that, they'd probably do it in the 10th gen
Cause like
Special number of something
lament glen
I mean it's possible, they could add it or change stuff later in the story when ...
nah, I think that ring probably confirms it then
how would adding a new type halfway through the game even work?
fickle birch
how would adding a new type halfway through the game even work?
Not halfway through the game, I just mean like they could retile the plaza to represent the newly discovered type. 😂
But yeah, I think it's highly unlikely for Gen IX. 😦
lament glen
boom nuclear type
to be fair. nuclear (and hydro) is one of the only energy production types not features in any pokemon game yet I dont think
oh, that reminds me of that cutscene in sw/sh where you see that coal plant in the distance but you can never go there
god I hate those games xD
lament glen
before the first cave to the first gym
pastel lark
True have another
lament glen
the scientist girl talks to you on a route and shows it for no reason
south trellis
coal type 😳
forest egret
Galarian Weezing is also supposed to be a coal plant creature
south trellis
coal type 😳
only the rolycoly line get it
modest jasper
it's rock but weak to fire 
fickle birch
There's the coal mine in SwSh, and it's a 'dungeon' that's literally a straight line. 😦
uneven badger
Dunsparce evo?
lament glen
Theres a coal plant??
there you go, there it is. exiting, right? cant wait to never go there 
forest egret
They don't want you getting Black Lung
lament glen
Well at least it wasnt a room with 3 trainer and a rival battle
gyms just need to go too imo
Bring back totem pokemon. those were cool
and challenging for once
fickle birch
gyms just need to go too imo
Bring back totem pokemon. those were cool
They basically did in Legends. 
uneven badger
lament glen
kiiiinda
fickle birch
Nobles and Alphas are alternatives to Totem Pokémon. 🙂
lament glen
I liked the stat boost and 2v1 part of it
echo dawn
I liked how they made the totems stupid strong, but then friendship mechanics sorta ballenced it out
uneven badger
Dunsparce evo i wish
modest jasper
and challenging for once
overlevel + stat boosts = hard
meager oasis
I liked how they made the totems stupid strong, but then friendship mechanics so...
When I replayed ultra moon I didn’t use friendship boosts
it was certainly difficult
echo dawn
~~overlevel + stat boosts = hard~~
The extra mon agaisnt you was the thing that actually made it diffucult though?
Like yeah stat boost makes it harded but like
lament glen
~~overlevel + stat boosts = hard~~
they made for great fights. especially the 2v1 aspect where 1 other mon supports the strategy
echo dawn
The second pokemon was always a massive problem in most of them
lament glen
far better than gym leaders with 3 mons
and puzzles that never were creative and never will be
aside from a few exeptions of course
forest egret
Don Quixote pokemon
uneven badger
Just saw references
fickle birch
I saw an idea that Quaxly's evolution is called Quaxote and I liked that a lot. 🙂
late tendon
I see A0Z takes screenshots from Lockstin's vid? 
echo dawn
Lockstin is blazing fast
uneven badger
echo dawn
Should probably watch that
echo dawn
Croc crab only
forest egret
Pepper croc doesn't need to listen to some wheel he can be a funny croc
pastel lark
The fire croc should evolve into a crocs sandal
forest egret
Crocs sandile
uneven badger
pastel lark
I just want the grass starter to never evolve into a bipedal pokemon
silver mountain
please game freak stop turning all the starters into humans
pastel lark
Or it will turn into a furry
late tendon
I already made piece with this cuz it probably will 
pastel lark
and i like cinderace but please stop
silver mountain
I just want a giant pepper creature not just... a guy
uneven badger
I'm sure is going to be bipedal
silver mountain
I'm excited to see how quaxly's hair changes through its evos
uneven badger
Just because of that Olympic cat
lament glen
Posted this in a different server, but might be a interesting here too
Pokemon settings have also gotten way too boring since gen 5 or so for me now that I think about it
They should finally make one in a fantasy world with giant landscapes that have nothing to do with our world. Can you imagine how insane that would be?
or maybe even in space, where you can fly to and explore different planets with pokemon on them
but instead we're just on a europe road tour
uneven badger
pastel lark
If it turns bipedal i will get the smoker pokemon from clover vibes
silver mountain
Posted this in a different server, but might be a interesting here too
Pokemon...
I'd love that, but not really as it's own game, maybe some post game content??
uneven badger
They've had memes of this thing for a long time.
pastel lark
Posted this in a different server, but might be a interesting here too
Pokemon...
It sure do is mising a lot of it
uneven badger
Now is time
silver mountain
a game with only ultra space would be fun
pastel lark
silver mountain
with more ultra beasts of course
pastel lark
even tough the ultra space is a room with purple tone
silver mountain
I meant as in just going throughout different ultra areas
like ultra jungle and etc
but new ones of course because only old ultra beasts will get stale fast
I think ultra beasts are so fun because they don't have to obey the rules of other pokemon's designs
icy forge
Posted this in a different server, but might be a interesting here too
Pokemon...
Is personal taste but for me the Charm of Pokemon is don’t need Crazy World full of fire or Candy or above Clouds
lament glen
like... imagine this world but with pokemon in it. would be cooler than route 1 version 9 I'd say
pastel lark
Yes
uneven badger
pastel lark
The most hyped i got about swsh was the weird mushroom forest
lament glen
yeah but would it run on switch
Believe it or not... but this is how xenoblade 2 on switch does look
echo dawn
Doom Eternal runs on switch doesn't it?
pastel lark
Because of how surreal it looked
lament glen
dont underestimate the switch. its just gamefreak that sucks
uneven badger
Es real
silver mountain
oh hell
uneven badger
Todo
echo dawn
I'm sure the switch can handle a five meter render distance game looking like that
limpid depot
I think the problem with this idea is that now every foreign pokemon fan has hopes that one day their country will be the inspiration lol
And it might feel like missed potential to stop after japan, parts of the us, france, and uk
pastel lark
dont underestimate the switch. its just gamefreak that sucks
True, there is a lot of exemples of that
lament glen
I think the problem with this idea is that now every foreign pokemon fan has hop...
most of those peoples hopes wont be fulfilled within their lifetime anyway
It'll take a while for pokemon to go through all 200 countries
~~not saying that it wont ~~
pastel lark
I think the problem with this idea is that now every foreign pokemon fan has hop...
True, please never follow this rule for brazil
limpid depot
lol
echo dawn
I mean, do we really need pokemon games anymore?
I really hope we dont start getting into gen 11 and then gen 18 and then gen 26, and so on
silver mountain
yeah it has to stop eventually
as much as I want new pokemon content, new pokemon will skyrocket to uncountable numbers
pastel lark
Saddly, creativity ends
lament glen
We should all make a bet on which gen is the final one and put 500 bucks in now. and then, in however many decades it will be until pokemon finally dies, we will declare the winner
pastel lark
and we can see some of it happening
echo dawn
Tbh, for the sake of pokemon games, I hope this gen or the next are the last
pastel lark
I hope it ends with 10
echo dawn
Although ending just before 10 would suck, it would be hilarious
lament glen
Tbh, for the sake of pokemon games, I hope this gen or the next are the last
agreed but not a change
I think it will get to gen 15
but I will not be there for it xD
limpid depot
I feel like that's beyond the reach of our current understanding lol
Like
I feel like pokemon has less chances to ever die than almost any nintendo property
lament glen
Hyped for the 648th new charizard form
echo dawn
Then it gets massive pecs in the final form
silver mountain
yeah gen 100 is when you go into the quantum realm
lament glen
Gen 100: Pokemon wheel chair and pokemon war crime
echo dawn
Quantam physics pokemon game
echo dawn
Gen 100: Pokemon wheel chair and pokemon war crime
Then we get 80 buck dlc for it
pastel lark
Gen 100: Pokemon wheel chair and pokemon war crime
Clover new update
echo dawn
But the dlc has two seperate versions with mons exclusive to them
meager oasis
Gen 500: pokemon pokemon and pokemon digimon
uneven badger
Confirmed, in violet and scarlet there are references to Francoism
pastel lark
just saying the revealed exclusive change is just so lazy
echo dawn
Gen 500.2
silver mountain
it sucks how there'll probably never be a kiwi pokemon because new zealand isn't region-worthy
unless they cram it into an australia region as dlc
echo dawn
That is
lament glen
New Zealand is based tho 
echo dawn
Assumung Kiwis are forever contained to New Zealand
lament glen
lets steal them and release them on the world
do cats hunt kiwis?
might end up badly
echo dawn
If we find out where gen 10 is gonna take place, we can spread the Kiwis
Force kiwis into the next game
lament glen
Listen
silver mountain
As a kiwi myself, I would love to see a lot of NZ culture in a pokemon game, but I'll know that'll never happen lol
lament glen
new zealand has a blue sky. spanishland has too. good enough reason to include kiwi in pokemon scarlet nexus
meager oasis
it sucks how there'll probably never be a kiwi pokemon because new zealand isn't...
Komala got into hawaii region somehow so who knows
silver mountain
well koalas are australian
forest egret
You guys know that pokemon can be based on any animal reguardless of region right
lament glen
Tell that the teacup 🔫
silver mountain
oh well yeah
It's just a shame we won't get much more than a single pokemon for countries without regions
forest egret
Tell that the teacup 🔫
Yeah, I'll be sure to tell the Teacup and his Snapping Turtle and Gorilla friends
forest egret
Now the game's ruined 
south trellis
lmao
ok so
my take is that this game looks very promising
and it’s gonna be fun to go blind into
knotty path
I wont really form a take on it til we know/see more but
south trellis
the water still looks kinda shit
knotty path
rn I don't think I'm getting it
south trellis
the water still looks kinda shit
but I mean that’s basically all I can say
knotty path
I didn't get swsh, broke and decided to get PLA since people said aside from graphics it was fun and it indeed was
guess I'll wait to see what people say about SV
lament glen
I feel like waiting for reviews on pokemon games is the most reasonable thing you can do at thi point
I should have wanted for the reviews on poopy pearl. could habe saved a lot of money 
knotty path
I didn't bother with BDSP from the get go lmao
modest jasper
the only good thing about bdsp is unity
knotty path
as soon as I heard it was a diamond/pearl remake and not a platinum one it just... didn't seem worth it. Not when Platinum contained most of the reasons Sinnoh was good.
plain valley
I'm really looking forward to this, Quaxly radiates a powerful energy
knotty path
and I just didnt like the overly chibi style in general
besides I'm a romhack player these days, and I get more enjoyment out of those than vanilla anyways
plain valley
as soon as I heard it was a diamond/pearl remake and not a platinum one it just....
I
knotty path
why play BDSP when Renegade Platinum has been entertaining me for over a year 
plain valley
Oops, hit enter to soon
I wanted Gen 4 remakes for years, HGSS was amazing, ORAS was great, so I just wanted something similar in quality
knotty path
I think that was the Pokemon community as a whole lmao
plain valley
Atleast PLA is close to that image, but still a bit too different to be that (Don't get me wrong tho, PLA is really fun & cool)
knotty path
Sinnoh is oddly nostalgic. It was a good chunk of players first games. When you saw "sinnoh remakes when?" it was mostly with the idea of a true remake- taking the original and building it up a bit more. Not "Literally the same game but x is slightly dif."
knotty path
PLA is solid for what it is, honestly. The graphics are PS2-feeling but the gameplay was very entertaining and refreshing with how different it felt from the mainline series.
I hope we get more in that vein
there's a lot of potential for future Legends entries
plain valley
When spinoffs are adding Sylveon, and remakes aren't it's just crazy lmao
True
I'm not exactly sure where S&V are inspired by yet, I think it's Spain
But if it is, there is tons of potential there for new mons, due to the vast culture present
little whale
Yeah
plain valley
Sure you've got the more well-know bullfighting & flamenco dancing, but there is tons of potential for atleast one musically inspired mon.
little whale
Ooh
plain valley
And while it's waaaaaay too early to get any type of recognition, there could be a double meaning in Fuecoco's name. While it seems to break down to Fuego |Hot| and possibly Cocodrilo |Crocodile|, the name may also referrence El Coco possibly??? The design and site description of it being laid-back doesn't really support that though, but who knows???
little whale
I think it would have sounded better if it was called Fuedrilo
plain valley
Especially since the Japanese name has no remote reference to El Coco (shoutouts to Bulbapedia, cuz Japanese is not what I'm good at)
knotty path
And while it's *waaaaaay* too early to get any type of recognition, there could ...
SImilarly some people have brought up Hombre Gato as a possible inspiration for Sprigatito's evos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hombre_Gato
but I hope not because I dont want another anthro cat
plain valley
true lmao
The only one I'm even remotely clueless about it Quaxly. Possibly inspired by some Navy Force?? That's all I got lmao
knotty path
yo what if this gen's starters turns the fanmade starter tropes around lmao
like
it's been common theory that the fire starters are based around the chinese zodiac and the grass starters are extinct animals
but what if the fire starter is the extinct animal ths time
what if the grass mon is the zodiac one this time
👀
plain valley
👀
knotty path
idr what the overarching water type theory was
I've heard "amphibious creatures" (meaning can survive on land and in water) or "weapons"
plain valley
Could make sense, since the Fire starter seems to be more inspired by a Dinosaur than a croc. Especially with the short stubby arms and lil' snoot
plain valley
I've heard "amphibious creatures" (meaning can survive on land and in water) or ...
The more I think on it, that seems true
Squirtle's line gets cannons
Totdile's gets sharp claws and fangs
Mudkip's line technically gets strong arms and muscles in the Mega
Piplup's line becomes a trident
Oshawott uses scallops as swords
Froakie's line literally had a sig called Water Shuriken
Sobble's line is a Sniper (present in the Gmax)
Only one to kinda break this trend is Popplio, which really isn't weapon associated
However they have been keeping the starter trio's more inspired by themes lately
meager oasis
I feel like mudkip and totodile break that trend too
plain valley
Gen 6 was MMO classes I think
Gen 7 Was Circus Performers
Gen 8 was Pop Culture (Music, Sports, Movies)
So once we get more info about these lines, then it'll be a lot easier to figure out their inspirations & even where the line is going
little whale
Yeah
late tendon
I think the weapons theme is too far-fetched
aquatic creatures theme is true tho
there were all sorts of grass and fire starters and different non-aquatic based water pokemon but water starters are always creatures leaving in water/really close to the water
final crater
weapons are bs
i think this may legitimately be them trying to break all the unreasonable theme theories at once
cause i mean if i was trying to get people to shut about about "next starter weapon gonna be cat-o-ninetails!!!" id shut everyone up simultaneously
... idk the semiaquatic things legit but the rest
maybe the grass thing
but the other two theories do kinda force starter designs into a corner
late tendon
grass starters are always extinct creatures
final crater
9 million fire snake fakemons here
late tendon
lmfao
late tendon
that's true
final crater
and good on pokemon for [maybe] breaking them
limpid depot
Thankfully my fire snake starter is just a coincidence that I didn't realize till just now lol
final crater
yeah
im not saying fire snake bad or anything
or like
fire horse bad
im saying on god there are so many of them
late tendon
I mean, it's totally all right to have a theme going, I don't like how people are trying to proof some really far-fetched teories
little whale
I really like the Fire Chinese Zodiac though
final crater
I really like the Fire Chinese Zodiac though
i mean it doesnt mean they can never make anything on the zodiac again
but like
late tendon
like Primarina is a club or something because ooooh water starters are weapons and primarina's tail looks like a spiky club aaahh
limpid depot
I think the biggest problem with that is that they'd literally inevitably run out lol
final crater
it results in some mildly unoriginal things at best
also yeah that
like wow guys gen 12 i sure do wonder what the starters gonna be
woooow its exactly what i thought
down to the watermark off google
little whale
I think there will only be 12 generations though, if the Zodiac theory is true
final crater
I think there will only be 12 generations though, if the Zodiac theory is true
and miss out on all the money???
like you are aware they are a company
and not some
late tendon
haha limiting yourself to 12 gens when you're the MOST selling franchise
limpid depot
Nintendo will die before pokemon if they ever even do
little whale
There's always side games
twin trail
nah pokemon will go on forever
little whale
And remakes
And remakes of remakes (looking at you kanto)
twin trail
and i will continue buying them cause hehe funny creatures give serotonin hits
late tendon
I think they'll come up with a new theme or go with something close like constellations or something whatever, or just go wild and do something unexpected
limpid depot
If they restructure the series
It will not be because of running out of chinese zodiac animals to base the fire starters on lol
little whale
Fair point
But that's just my 20 dollars on the situation
Because like you said
There's only so much that can be made
late tendon
but the true theme behind the starters is this
little whale
Lmao
late tendon
since gen 9 all starters will be based on the internet memes
twin trail
but the true theme behind the starters is this
omg incel representation in pokemon
2/3
worn cobalt
Knowing how these things go, the final will for no reason be bipedal.
little whale
I wonder how the starters will look like shiny
limpid depot
Tbh purely bipedal starter evos is already a 3 generation old trend
I would not be surprised some kinda research made them decide that's the best way to do it
late tendon
same
abstract linden
(it's the furries)
flint sequoia
Is it just me, or do the starters artwork look more like fan designs?
south trellis
nahh
honestly most new mon designs at first glance look like fan designs
I felt that way about gen 8 starters too
spiral tree
can't wait for new mushroom pkemon
final crater
honestly i feel like the difference is these are varied and kinda nice "fakemon-y" designs
as opposed to like
3 bobbleheads
or whatver
south trellis
you do make a point
final crater
just remember... at least they dont look like uranium mons yet
late tendon
I don't see anything bad in them looking "fakemon-y" because oftenly fakemons look neat
final crater
I don't see anything bad in them looking "fakemon-y" because oftenly fakemons lo...
i think the one issue with that is... well, looking fan-made as opposed to looking more official
late tendon
And, well, these mons designs are made by people, and fakemons are made by people
final crater
but obv that fades
if it runs off official mon-making principles, at least
[none of us know what that is, ofc]
late tendon
Digimons as new pokemon
late tendon
Fire chili croc => killer land fish => trex with flamethrowers => satan transformer
final crater
yeah
twin trail
Fire chili croc => killer land fish => trex with flamethrowers => satan transfor...
mega tyrantrum
south trellis
can’t wait to hear of the rumour that megas are returning for the 100th time
final crater
can’t wait to hear of the rumour that megas are returning for the 100th time
already happening
patent rivet
Can’t believe they added mega Arceus finally
final crater
oh boy mega arceus yayaya
south trellis
also, probably another really shit gimmick coming
can’t wait for the meta of the game to be booty
opal gull
Believe it or not... but this is how xenoblade 2 **on switch** does look
xenoblade 3 is also gonnabe on switch
and look at the trailers for that
knotty path
also, probably another really shit gimmick coming
maybe will be relevant to whatever this thing in the logo is
echo dawn
Looks like a pokemon card gimmick type of symbol 
meager oasis
also, probably another really shit gimmick coming
Pokemon become small instead of big
Micromax
meager oasis
Mostly excited for whatever that spider web symbol is in the trailer
could be new spider mon
or something
Team arachnid
idk
knotty path
meager oasis
Please
I just want cute 4 legged cat
Oh yea
And hopefully more regional forms
regional forms are cool
Most of the time
south trellis
cries in avalugg
south trellis
yeah
meager oasis
Noble avalugg is awesome though
meager oasis
I wonder if there will be a regional form of shinx in gen 9
There has to be some kind of lynx pokemon
meager oasis
yes
I always forget gen 6 exists
gen 7 forms would be cool too but then that would make me feel old
south trellis
we’ve already gotten a gen 7 regional though
flint sequoia
What pokemon?
south trellis
decidueye 😳
flint sequoia
That doesn't really count though, since it was a starter
olive forge
You forgor Apple croc
knotty path
pepper croc
bitter sierra
fuecoco my frencoco.
i will grip him by his little tufts
little whale
I'm gonna go with Sprigatito
knotty path
Fuecoco Fam unite
frigid spindle
south trellis
That doesn't really count though, since it was a starter
????
south trellis
it 100% counts
quiet frost
So uh I recoloured fuecoco
90% sure that if Pokémon, Gamefreak and Nintendo were smart, they’d make that its Shiny form
frigid spindle
90% sure that if Pokémon, Gamefreak and Nintendo were smart, they’d make that it...
If that actually happens i'll be really happy
They might do it, who knows
quiet frost
If that actually happens i'll be really happy
If that actually happens, I don’t care if it’ll take months or years, I’ll make it so my starter in the game before I even start catching or playing the game, I’ll get a shiny
frigid spindle
It it's not its shiny someone better make a recolour for fuecoco as a mod
vestal aurora
It is in danger of extinction
It's an iberian lynx so... yeah
frigid spindle
Weed cat.
flint sequoia
it 100% counts
It got a new forme because it was one of the starters, not the other way round
south trellis
is it not a regional form of a gen 7 pokemon
quiet frost
I can kinda see the grass cat starter looking maybe a fall orange for the orange color for the dark green spots and the pail green color being changed to like maybe a autum brown
For the shiny version I mean
south trellis
make the green red and we got canada cat
quiet frost
We don’t need another litten colored cat Pokémon
Plus this cat is a grass type, orange fits better than red
Plus we do need better looking shiny Pokémon... some shinys we been getting these last few years haven’t been the best colors
Or should I remind you all about Gengar and how it’s shiny only looks cool when in Mega or Gigantamaxed
vestal aurora
For 1 gen
south trellis
yeah they did that for a few gen 2 shinies
meager oasis
they only did that becausew its charizard
quiet frost
They changed other shiny colors too
meager oasis
wait didnt pokemon home change a bunch of shinies
vestal aurora
Not drastically
quiet frost
wait didnt pokemon home change a bunch of shinies
Bingo
south trellis
wait didnt pokemon home change a bunch of shinies
it added castform form shinies
vestal aurora
More like saturation stuff
south trellis
barely anything notable though
quiet frost
My point remains, we haven’t been given many cool looking shiny colors these last few years
vestal aurora
Shiny zoroark (both forms)
quiet frost
Quite a few cool looking Pokémon got trashy shiny colors
south trellis
most of the shinies past gen 5 (when they actually started manually making them) have been good or at least passable
vestal aurora
Some pokemon look 10x better as shiny
mostly gen5 up
Also i think we are getting a lil offtopic
quiet frost
Shiny Scorbunny would like to disagree...
Honestly think they could’ve done better for Scorbunny
south trellis
shiny scorbunny is fine
it’s raboot and cinderace that are iffy
even still I said most
not all
quiet frost
I meant the Scorbunny line as a whole
south trellis
Also i think we are getting a lil offtopic <:huehue:742100381911482479>
woops
quiet frost
But still, with Gen9 around the corner, they could change the shiny of old to make them look nicer
Like make Gengar like its Mega and Gigantamaxed color, White for example
quiet frost
but we all know they won’t
If enough of us complain about it they will
Facts of life in the business world if you think about it
uneven badger
Gen9 dog
modest jasper
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/675512576951451649/947805270497697852/IMG_6259.png
just something interesting to point out, only the duck still feels water-typeesk without it's color scheme
modest jasper
not really, but I can see where you are coming from
wanton idol
croc looks like a totodile2
strong trail
2todile
placid bridge
south trellis
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/675512576951451649/947805270497697852/I...
canada cat
wanton idol
lament glen
Ah, a reference to the game I cant play because they wont bring it to switch for reasons
wanton idol
looking cool tomate
uneven badger
autumn leaves
Spring
quiet frost
Now the question is, will Ash catch one of these starter Pokémon, or will Pokémon make the mistake again of not giving at least 1 new Gen Starter to our Anime protagonist who even after like 20-25 years now is still a 10 year old even tho in a Pikachu short they mentioned that Ash turned 11 years old between Orange Islands and Johto(movie 3) timeframe
uneven badger
icy forge
This Could be good pokeanimals to
late tendon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/675512576951451649/947805270497697852/I...
I think croc looks way less fiery because it's based on a hot pepper, and one of it's signatures - it's color, either red or green like jalapeno
lament glen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISoiLZ3W3_Y
Sadly in german, but its a video of a guy breaking down the graphics of the trailer and its hillarious
strong trail
are they really called karmesin and purpur? wild
junior raptor
purpur is a minecraft block isnt it
patent rivet
late tendon
Or horse for saint george's horse
vestal aurora
Lmao
lament glen
just no
vestal aurora
Or horse for saint george's horse <:lie:348223399430062083>
They can go human for saint george 
late tendon
Another monke zodiac
lament glen
the zoodiac was dead with gen 2 lol
wanton idol
hmm rat yes
late tendon
Nah, it just wasn't born yet
viscid ledge
i had a go at spriting the little guy
fickle birch
I had a go at drawing Quaxly's leaked evolution. 😄
modest jasper
wah
vestal aurora
Wackers
south trellis
the zoodiac was dead with gen 2 lol
exactly
like people are freaking out that this guy doesn’t fit the zodiac
and here we got gen 2 with an echidna/porcupine
not a rat
south trellis
I mean if people are calling cyndaquil a rat might as well consider fuecoco a snake
fickle birch
It is a snake though. 😛
south trellis
also very sure fennekin was a fox
vestal aurora
Fennekin is doggo
wide mica
fennec fox....
forest egret
If the zodiac theme depends on people going "eh close enough" then it's not that great of a theme
knotty path
What I think would be funny is if they switched around the fan perceived pattern
The water type becomes the zodiac mon, for example
south trellis
oh that'd be funi
knotty path
And the fire type becomes the extinct animal or whatever the grass type pattern was
south trellis
that's basically it
hope that quaxly's weapon inspiration when he evolves is his fuckin muscles
viscid ledge
the zodiac i could see but the other two patterns are such stretches
echo dawn
I mean the weapon one isnt that much of a stretch
mellow parcel
Wait how is the pattern for grass types extinct creatures
Have you seen ROWLET
And like grookey
And turtwig
tall meadow
mellow parcel
Yeah but grookey
It's monke
Also torterra is more of a turtle than a dinosaur
Swampert is based off a fan?
That feels stretched
forest egret
I don't see the feraligatr one either
mellow parcel
Yeah that one is a stretch
tall meadow
the weapons thing is stupid, the correct thing is animals that live in water and on land
mellow parcel
Also typhlosion
tall meadow
Also torterra is more of a turtle than a dinosaur
also "spike turtle"
icy forge
If you asked me the water pattern is simply: animals that can live in land and water
tall meadow
If you asked me the water pattern is simply: animals that can live in land and w...
it's correct
icy forge
I still waiting a Iguana (?)
tall meadow
also this 
tall meadow
all the fire starters are based on animals
it's a lie
the cyndaquil is clearly based on a lighter
also
forest egret
And Arcanine's a legendary
tall meadow
yes
forest egret
This one's good too
tall meadow
late tendon
Bidoof is a Plump Mouse Pokemon
little whale
They said late 2022
So yes
meager oasis
Jeez
They just did so much different stuff in legends how they gonna make gen 9 so fast
little whale
Maybe it's in development at the same time as Legends
Like a secret twin
modest jasper
They just did so much different stuff in legends how they gonna make gen 9 so fa...
rushing the shit out of it
mellow parcel
well heres the thing
theres multiple teams at game freak
and the main one wasnt working on pla
the main one was working on gen 9 since the release of gen 8
knotty path
Multiple teams is worse
They already have an extremely low employee count
Dividing that further is part of the problem lmao
As of 2021 they only have 167 employees total
twin trail
no way delphox is a wolf/dog lmfao
small shoal
water one seems pretty streched
patent rivet
twin trail
water one seems pretty streched
^
brisk meteor
thinking further why the hell are they releasing scvi this soon??? like even from a purely profit based viewpoint i genuinely cannot say i understand the thought process here. why would you detract the long term sales of pokemon legends by releasing gen 9 in the same fiscal year
small shoal
you can pre order them to wth
final crater
thinking further why the hell are they releasing scvi this soon??? like even fro...
joke about weed cat's eyes here
if that ends up being foreshadowing im already worried
brisk meteor
again i can’t imagine how poor the working conditions must be at game freak to be churning out games at this rate, poor bastards. i’m gonna refrain from buying for a while especially if or when pirating it becomes an option
final crater
yeah probably for the best
but also try flipping weed cat's art horizontally in art program of choice
lapis linden
thinking further why the hell are they releasing scvi this soon??? like even fro...
This is what they have to do to turn a decent profit the fan base tends to uhhhh well force their hands. It’s why so many triple AAA games are released so often. Game freak has a demanding fan base they out sourced BDSP cause Gen 9 was in the works at the same time as PLA probably since Gen 8 hit store shelves tbh. Don’t get me wrong still not good cause game freak is a small company like 200 employees max.
brisk meteor
i don’t think that’s it at all but eh at the end of the day i’m just a random anticapitalist layman, i don’t know all that much about the videogame dev biz
knotty path
This is what they have to do to turn a decent profit the fan base tends to uhhhh...
167 employees as of 2021
Fun times
lapis linden
Yeah that’s definitely not healthy for them, they seriously need to hire more if they want to keep up with demands, or even the schedule of a game a year.
knotty path
Iirc the yearly release deadline is pushed more by marketing and the anime since that's where they make most of their money, not the games
It's shit though
flint sequoia
Biggest franchise in the world, they aren't going to change much
knotty path
I could see Nintendo just saying fuck it and just trying to buy them in the next 5 years or so
lapis linden
I am honestly surprised Nintendo hasn’t bought them tbh 😂
frigid spindle
Well with all the cons out of the way, which are not many, scvi still sounds really good.
lapis linden
I am excited for it tbh it looks like they are learning and moving in a good direction
knotty path
Honestly something as simple as updating the textures would go a long way for the games rn
They're already doing that for the models which is cool (granted, I believe those are made by Creatures Inc?) but the environment and towns need it more
frigid spindle
Yeah I wish all the buildings, floor, etc. Had more detail and refining
Because they look super crusty
flint sequoia
There was a video about a texture mod for legends arceus that changed only the environment textures, and that made it look so much better
meager oasis
<:blurry_ohyes:883827173117558784>
Umm wrong channel?
frigid spindle
viscid ledge
how the hell is primarina a mace lmao
viscid ledge
also this <:disgust:703445332901494784>
all animals have extinct relatives that are similar to them, so you can jump through hoops and add any starter they make into this theory, like there's nothing about rillaboom that connotes gigantopithecus other than them both being apes
south trellis
the starter patterns are actually
grass starter is always grass type
fire starter is always fire type
water starter is always water type
viscid ledge
meager oasis
grass starter is always grass type
fire starter is always fire type
water starte...
big brain
flint sequoia
grass starter is always grass type
fire starter is always fire type
water starte...
Are you sure about this? Can someone confirm?
wanton idol
after 2 days of research, i finally found out what the duck evolves into
quiet frost
how the hell is primarina a mace lmao
No I could see primarina being a mace... the Pokémon’s lore is based off those mermaids that lure humans to their doom so a mace to the humans head works like that
fickle birch
As of 2021 they only have 167 employees total
Monolith helped with Legends apparently, so it seems as if they are getting support. 🙂
But yes, the company is far too small. 😢
fickle birch
after 2 days of research, i finally found out what the duck evolves into
You mean Duckules? 😛
wanton idol
same same
lament glen
Monolith helped with Legends apparently, so it seems as if they are getting supp...
True, tho I doubt that its a ton of people from monolith helping, considering they are also working on xenoblade 3 and helping with splatoon 3, botw2 and whatnot as well
fickle birch
Monolith kinda seems like Nintendo's extra pair of hands right now, they make them do everything. 😂
wanton idol
what
uneven badger
They had a job
placid bridge
its not that bad
icy forge
south trellis
opal gull
how the hell is primarina a mace lmao
water weapon is nonsense, its just aquaticish animals that are able to be on land some
I do hope they are just dropping the zodiac due to constraints and arent gonna turn fuecoco into one of those long pepper, dino/gator would be far superior
echo dawn
I mean I don't think it's a rule, but certainly something they consider
Like 5 of the 8 water starers have actual weapons on them or are wielding them
Inteleon just has a gun
opal gull
I do think quaxley may get some type of gun/cannon given navy theming
echo dawn
I can totally see it being steel type, with the knight inspirations and navy stuff yeah
echo dawn
abstract linden
They bothered me a lot but it's not that bad
icy forge
Nobody thinks that Fuecoco can evolve into a “dragon”?
knotty path
im just hoping for dual type starter evos again
the pure typed ones in gen 8 were kinda meh
small shoal
tru
icy forge
If I had to Bet
Springatito: Fairy/psychic/ghost
Fuecoco: Rock/Steel/Fairy?
Quaxly: Figthing
junior raptor
i hope the croc becomes dragon like if not just in like body shape
knotty path
I could see Fuecoco going fire/ghost given the potential for his facial markings becoming a skull and inspiration potentially being a ghost pepper
junior raptor
oh my gooood that must be what his face iiiiiissss! a ghost pepeeeeer! god i just couldnt wrap my head around the white bit, now i at least got an acceptable interpretation
opal gull
one intereptation
is itsbased ona stuffed pepper
where thats cheese
@junior raptor
hopefully its not a type repeats for legends arceus
actually in that case
is that actually a kraft single
knotty path
honestly I dont mind if its a type repeat, fire/ghost isn't exactly common generally speaking
opal gull
I do, it just happened and chandelure
limpid depot
Tbh it's weird to me how plant like it looks
knotty path
technically in canon it happened several hundred years ago, and Chandelure was literally 4 gens ago
lmao
besides I doubt we'll see HIsuian Typhlosion available in a lot of future games
opal gull
inb4 hes fire normal caue a bunch fo teh eat a ton mons are normal
hisuian zoroark is in s/v at least
south trellis
honestly I dont mind if its a type repeat, fire/ghost isn't exactly common gener...
ghost pepper
junior raptor
hmmm yeah maybe cuz the pepper plantness he'll be grass/fire?
would be neat to get one of those but unsure if it fits with a starter
modest jasper
grass/fire starter would fuck up the trio
modest jasper
suddenly he isn't weak to water anymore and I don't want to believe the duck will keep being generic flying
gusty mulch
Yes xD
modest jasper
plz
if it evolves into a swan it will be the most generic starter
even more than the weed cat
south trellis
suddenly he isn't weak to water anymore and I don't want to believe the duck wil...
pretty sure he’ll still get flying coverage
cus I mean
he is a bird
strong trail
and steel wing
modest jasper
if he doesn't have stab flying it's fine, coverage is another thing
mellow parcel
new fire theme
abstract linden
First it was Fire/Fighting, now its Fire/Cheese
swift stump
vestal aurora
Eyoooo
vestal aurora
Lmao can't wait to play the game with a portuguese team
late tendon
masuda is such a sneaky bastard
I'm surprised he didn't hint gen 9 like he did before lmfao
I remember him posting a freaking Pokemon Go screenshot with a lure timer that hinted some shit
and catching a weedle with stats hinting some shit
wanton idol
lmfao
south trellis
kitty
wanton idol
weed kitty
south trellis
more
wanton idol
decided to remake the rushed gen 9 bois i did
wanton idol
vestal aurora
vestal aurora
I'm sure there is going to be a regional spritzee
Probably related to the black plague
fickle birch
These are fantastic, I'd for sure pick Quaxly if we get something like this. 😄
Though it would be the third Water/Dark starter, and second consecutive one, assuming we count Hisuian Samurott.
vestal aurora
Imagine we got the same starter typing as hisui lmao
Cause i can see fuecoco as a ghost and quaxly as a dark
fickle birch
People are speculating Fire/Ghost and Water/Dark, could be 2/3. 😂
vestal aurora
Hard seeing sprigatito as a fighting type tho
timid wren
not Fire/Dragon ?
fickle birch
Although I could see a pirate being done as a Fighting-type or something instead. 😅
vestal aurora
Fire/dragon would destroy the cycle imo
fickle birch
If they make Sprigatito's evolutuion Grass/Fairy and Quaxly Water/Steel with a metal hook hand or something, could be fun to reverse the cycle. 🙂
timid wren
why you all think of pirate 😄
modest jasper
because ahoy is cool
timid wren
turn his hat into a helmet and make him a diver or astronaut 😄
modest jasper
space-type confirmed
fickle birch
I imagine sailor more than pirate, but a pirate would be really cool. 🙂
timid wren
more Spaghettito
echo dawn
echo dawn
Can't wait for a drugged out lynx
abstract linden
That's definitely a grass/psychic like c'mon
patent rivet
abstract linden
Yep
I'm definitely naming my weed cat Ralsei if I ever get convinced to buy the game
stray terrace
People are speculating Fire/Ghost and Water/Dark, could be 2/3. 😂
honestly, this is something i doubt will be the case but
it reads to me as very much a fire/grass
considering the chili pepper theme
abstract linden
g h o s t p e p p e r s
Tho yeah fire/grass would be cool too
Maybe as a middle evo
patent rivet
I’m sad that it’s likely that the official evolutions of the starters will be worse than the fanart
Based on how SwSh turned out
abstract linden
I didn't like the initial galar evos already so it's a pretty low bar lol
tall meadow
I believe it will be: Grass/Dark, Water/Fighting and maybe Fire/Psychic to complete a cycle
stray terrace
theyve already made 2 similar cycles
wanton idol
i fully believe they are too lazy to come up with new types and just use the ones from legends arceus
patent rivet
stray terrace
actually i did come up with some idea
i think they're not based enough to do it but
worn cobalt
Maybe they will have them just have secondary types, no pattern, like earlier gens?
stray terrace
Weed Cat: Grass/Water (jaguars are amazing swimmers and known to fight otters, caimans, and anaondas)
Crocodile: Fire/Grass (it currently resembles a chili pepper a lot)
Donald Duck: Water/Fire (conquistador/soldier theme + guns)
wanton idol
Donald Duck my beloved
worn cobalt
Weed Cat: Grass/Water (jaguars are amazing swimmers and known to fight otters, c...
That'd be cool
wanton idol
im expecting a Water/Fighting type i gotta be honest
vestal aurora
my sister just said that the best starter is fuecoco
she doesn't know much about pokemon just thinks he's neat
uneven badger
Weed Cat: Grass/Water (jaguars are amazing swimmers and known to fight otters, c...
Jaguar
☠️
And the region is mexico, isn't it?
vestal aurora
the region is the Iberian Peninsula
uneven badger
Anda no sabia
Obviously it is Spain Portugal and Andorra, the grass starter is literally an olive lynx
The Mediterranean atmosphere
And this
wanton idol
wanton idol
im super happy with how they turned out, ty 
wanton idol
hmm true
echo dawn
And the white on Fuecoco might be too tan
wanton idol
echo dawn
no
wanton idol
idc 🚎
echo dawn
More pink mouth on Fuecoco looks nice though
opal gull
what are the best evos' yall have seen designed for the starters
opal gull
I believe it will be: Grass/Dark, Water/Fighting and maybe Fire/Psychic to compl...
psychich dark fighting or dark ghost fighting or fairy ghost dark all happen too much
same basic staying in same terrian to force triangle whcih undemrines starter type diversity
opal gull
what are the best evos' yall have seen designed for the starters
besides
meager oasis
fan made evos always have such good designs
fickle birch
Agreed, I love these designs personally. 😄
signal dagger
I'm gonna have to live with the fact that Sprigatito is both my favorite and my least favorite considering it's definitely going to have an Incineroar/Delphox-like evolution 
I'm just living on a prayer at this point
We all know they're just gonna design humanoid evolutions for them so what's the point 
late tendon
yep
patent rivet
I’ll only accept a human evolution for the duck if it’s Subaru
knotty path
can you imagine the absolute hype of the pokemon community if it doesn't become bipedal
people will go apeshit for it
signal dagger
It will be revolutionary if they go back to quadrupedal
well I mean this gen (unless one of them pulls a Samurott) 2 of the 3 starters already have to be bipedal
I'm just praying on Sprigatito and the hopeful lack of humanoid final evos
meager oasis
I’d just prefer anything that doesn’t have like heaps of human traits
But anyway
I’m excited for what other gen 9 pokemon there will be
And regional forms
flint sequoia
very few starters are quadrupedal
patent rivet
But before gen 6 they weren’t as human even when they were bipedal
flint sequoia
Venusaur, Meganium, Swampert, Torterra, Samurott, Serperior(?), Primarina(?)
True
echo dawn
meager oasis
We don’t have any 4 legged fully evolved crocodile pokemon right
it would be cool if fuecoco evolved into 4 legged croc
(But maybe I’m putting my hopes too high for that)
little whale
Bro
The giant hat in the cat in the hat didn't tip you off lmao
south trellis
I didn’t realise until post-garf
forest egret
Post Garf Clarity
woeful oasis
The stupid cat should evolve into a weed plant
Like no eyes or some other bullshit just like a pot with pott growing in it
An inanimate object
The crocodile is the best starter
He looks pretty funny and the duck reminds me of the bird from deltarune so i dont like him also we dont talk about the stupid cat its 100% not gonna have some cool design theyre gonna make it anthropomorphic like fennekin line
forest egret
I wouldn't doubt it, just hope it doesn't though
south trellis
that’s the general consensus
meager oasis
Something neat I’ve thought about
Starters may get human proportions a lot but
Box art legendaries are almost always animalistic
Which is cool
I feel like after I say this I’m going to curse everyone and gen 9 legendaries will be 2 buff dragon men or something
south trellis
the gen9 legends will just be amourgus
pastel lark
.
vestal aurora
epic
modest jasper
ebin
woeful oasis
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/deadliestfiction/images/f/fe/Josuke_anime.png/...
This is exactlybwhat i thought
patent rivet
This is exactlybwhat i thought
Well, since it actually has the Jojo logo on the image, that was what it was referencing
woeful oasis
Oh yeah didnt even notice the logo
vestal aurora
knotty path
the map hasn't even been revealed, has it? where did he get that lmao
or is it made off assumptions
icy forge
Good speculation
They put a big interior sea where must be mountain 😅
vestal aurora
They tried to come up with a map based on the trailers and real world lmao
vestal aurora
I think it's supposed to be Madeira and Azores
little whale
Loaf
modest jasper
final Evo has the legendary bread type
dense olive
it's beautiful
fickle birch
Johnny Bravo energy. 😂
echo dawn
If Skrelp (assuming the baby is in) has a crinckly leaf texture I'm buying this game
worn cobalt
I'd buy the game because as a child I wanted a Pokemon Purple version, and that satisfies the request.
I'm relatively easy to please.
vestal aurora
I'm gonna buy it cause i'm portuguese
wanton idol
Im going to buy it because im a pokemon fan
olive forge
I'm going to buy it because it buy to going I'm
late tendon
🚶 ➡️ 💸 🎮
echo dawn
Giratina (not Milchik) walks to a flying dollar.
-Signed, Xbox Controller
meager oasis
I’m gonna buy it because I buy anything that has pokemon on the name
And nothing else
icy forge
I am gonna buy cause I like Pokemon
knotty path
I'm not going to buy it unless I hear good things about it after release.
ripe thunder
I hope Sprigatito goes bipedal and Quaxly goes quadruped because I just want to see the world burning
meager oasis
I hope Sprigatito goes bipedal and Quaxly goes quadruped because I just want to ...
And fuecoco becomes fire/fighting type
pastel lark
Fuecoco evolving into itself but taller
south trellis
that looks sick
lucario ass 😳 😳
patent rivet
I doubt they're going to just make animals, they'll probably make them based on some sort of human thing like they did the past 3 generations
knotty path
didn't say they were likely, just that I like them
signal dagger
I doubt they're going to just make animals, they'll probably make them based on ...
what an original thought
junior raptor
those are neat designs, the final form or fuecoco kinda looks like a string cheese godzilla to me
opal gull
the bird at least seem very likely to include some kind of naval theme based on its design, description
others are a bit harder to tell
I like the fuecoco line but could be a bit less emo on the hair and face
also they kinda dropped the pepper theme entirely there
icy forge
Lion is an important animal in heraldry, also an extintant animal in Europe, can be another option for Springatito
knotty path
I liked the theory that the three starters would be based off animals that are or have been on Spanish flags. Lion for Sprigatito, Eagle for Quaxly, and Dragon for Fuecoco
fickle birch
Oh that's actually a nice theory, and makes a lot of sense. 😄
knotty path
also I found these concepts and I love how much character they have
also pretty cool for a bipedal concept
meager oasis
I honestly kinda want it to be bipedal now just so people get angry lol
don’t really care if it’s 4 or 2 legs anymore
fickle birch
also pretty cool for a bipedal concept
Decidueye, but if it was a cat. 😂
signal dagger
yeah what's with the wings?
p cool though, definitely reminds me of honchkrow and decidueye
fickle birch
It's a cape, it's going for a Zorro vibe. 😄
icy forge
Decidueye and Sceptile show that you can be bipedal and not “Human”
signal dagger
well that's because
- Owls are already bipedal
- Sceptile manages to pull off being more animalistic than humanoid despite being bipedal
fickle birch
Both of those things are exactly right. 🙂
signal dagger
So personally, animals whose anatomy could be flexible like reptiles aren't as offputting as say, a mammal, whose anatomic structure is sound and built for quadrupedal-ness, is slightly more... weird, shall we say (when becoming bipedal)
Ursaring is an exception, because bears sometimes go bipedal anyways for better visibility
worn cobalt
What if, and hear me out, Sprigatito went Serperior route and lost it's legs (Serperior does have arms, but since they are flat leaves that stay folded behind its back, nobody knows about them)
Oh! What if they had fusion mons that combined like Kyurem (or everything in Infinite Fusion)?
modest jasper
i really doubt gf would go that way, at best a legendary that can interact with others on its trio
worn cobalt
Also, I hope the "evil team" is just misunderstood good or okay guys, like with Team Skull and Team Yell.
modest jasper
i sure hope not
its becoming way too predictable
1st evil team is just 5º grade bullies that are an excuse to block paths, the real team is revealed at the end game so you can catch the box art legendary
icy forge
I like Team Skull but three times in a row is to much
worn cobalt
I enjoy the trope of "good guys who are bad guys but is their plan really bad or is it good?"
modest jasper
i would also like to point out people only really like marnie on team yell
and its more of a desing thing rather than her character as well
worn cobalt
Marnie isn't a part of Team Yell. If I understand my internet terms, Team Yell is a bunch of Marnie stans.
worn cobalt
Basically, Team Yell is a meme about internet fandoms.
fickle birch
Team Yell was a genuinely atrocious 'Team'. They didn't do anything at all at any point in the story. 😦
modest jasper
Team Yell was a genuinely atrocious 'Team'. They didn't do anything at all at an...
nono
they did something
block your path
fickle birch
worn cobalt
not toxic enough, didnt try to cancel me because i like a certain thing
They are as toxic as a G-rated toxic fandom for Pokemon is going to be.
modest jasper
now you made me think of a evil team that is just twitter cranked to the max
fickle birch
The Batman spoilers: ||The Riddler's army is basically just the likes of QAnon, which is pretty interesting. 😅||
worn cobalt
now you made me think of a evil team that is just twitter cranked to the max
If Pokemon ever made a Dark Souls level game, I'd love to see that. Plus the trope that you try and stop the bad guys, only to find you were the villain all along.
fickle birch
That'd be a bit too much I think. 😅
fickle birch
The Professor as a villain would be a great twist, I think. 🙂
worn cobalt
That'd be a bit too much I think. 😅
Think Kirby's Nightmare in Dreamland, where you assemble the Star Rod only to find Dedede destroyed it to seal away an ancient evil.
fickle birch
Or one of your parents. 😄
modest jasper
evil mil- mom 
fickle birch
Ozone has the player's mum being evil, assuming I ever make Ozone.
worn cobalt
Or one of your parents. 😄
Parents? In Pokemon? That's a stretch.
modest jasper
~~Ozone has the player's mum being evil, assuming I ever make Ozone.~~
is the box art legend related to rayquaza
worn cobalt
Think Kirby's Nightmare in Dreamland, where you assemble the Star Rod only to fi...
You know, Lots of Kirby games have Kirby as an accidental villain.
stray terrace
well that's because
1. Owls are already bipedal
2. Sceptile manages to pull off...
also sceptile is partially based off theropods/bipedal dinos
signal dagger
I guess that too
And that brings up another point, which is that we are used to seeing bipedal reptiles sometimes, (dinosaurs), but there aren't as many bipedal mammals throughout history.
(most of said bipedal mammals being us)
knotty path
Rillaboom also can work as bipedal, though technically knuckle-walking is quadrupedal, but gorillas and the likes can and do go bipedal sometimes
I'd say Blastoise and Typhlosion are better examples of bipedal without being super anthromorphized, but they're not grass starters tbf
fickle birch
Treecko works as a good example, it can be both a biped and a quadruped (which used to confuse me in Mystery Dungeon). 😄
patent rivet
Sceptile is bipedal but still doesn’t look much like a human